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A30814 A glimpse of God, or, A treatise proving that there is a God discovering the grounds of atheism, with arguments of divers sorts against atheists : shewing also, the unity of the Godhead, and the trinity of the persons ... / by ... Mr. Thomas Byrdall ... Byrdall, Thomas, 1607 or 8-1662? 1665 (1665) Wing B6404; ESTC R14883 155,901 472

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four-fold infiniteness 1. An Infiniteness in respect of quantity as if there should be a body that hath infinite dimensions of infinite breadth length and depth God is not thus infinite because he is not a body neither is there any infinite body the heaven of heavens are of a vast circumference and the greatest of all bodies yet it hath its bounds and limits 2. There is that which is infinite in respect of number so the sands on the sea are said to be infinite because innumerable the stars in the heaven be innumerable yet be they not truly infinite because there can be as many more stars and sands neither way God is said to be infinite because God is but one 3. There is an infinite in respect of qualities inherent so no creature is infinite because there cannot be infinite vertues in finite natures as all created natures are so God is not properly said to be infinite because in God there are no qualities and vertues but improperly God is said to be infinite in qualities as they denote his pure essence infinite in power infinite in goodnesse infinite in mercy all in God is infinite because they are his very nature 4. There is an infinite in respect of Being Nature or substance to have an immeasurable incomprehensible and unlimitted being or nature so God and onely God is infinite who onely is incomprehensible and unlimited therefore he is said to be ubique nusquam every where and no where he is no where circumscriptivè limited and bounded ubique repletivè every where filling all things God comprehends all and is comprehended of nothing his center is every where his circumference no where When we say God is infinite we mean he is a spirit of infinite extension when we say he is extended it is meant secundum totalitem not secundum partes he is wholly extended not part by part therefore he is of infinite extension CHAP. III. NOw that God is infinite and incomprehensible may appear by removing all bounds and limits of Being Creatures are bounded and limited with these bounds with Time Place Efficacy Their own Beings 1. Creatures ar finite and limited with their Essential Terms as the Ang●lical nature is but God hath no Essential Terms limiting and bounding him his Essence is an unlimited Essence 2. All creatures are bounded with Time The Angels and Souls of Men who have a being to eternity yet had no being of duration when they were created but God is infinite in duration he is not bounded with beginning nor end but from everlasting to everlasting he is God 3. Place is another bound or limit to creatures Angels that are in Heaven are not at the same time upon Earth We see how every creature that is in this place is so bounded that he is not in another And this is one strong Argument against Taansubstantiation Christ's Body is not physically or naturally in the Bread and Wine but onely sacramentally because being a body he is as all bodies in a place circumscriptively but no place sets bounds to God he is every where he filleth heaven and earth the heaven and the heaven of heavens cannot contain him 4. A thing is limited and bounded in respect of it's efficacy and operation Angels are powerful mighty in power yet their power is limited Nihil agit ultra sphaeram activitatis Nothing can go beyond his power The School-men speaking of Angels in place say they are in loco definitivè that is by applying their actions to this and not to that place the Sun throws out his light and heat at a great distance yet it is bounded Now God is infinite in respect of efficacy and as he is Is there any thing too hard for me saith the Lord Whatsoever is possible he can bring to pas his power is boundless his mercy is boundless not onely in respect of duration but also in respect of operation so that God is infinite in respect of Essence therefore incomprehensible infinite in respect duration therefore eternal 5. Intelligentiâ Great things may be comprehended in the understanding of Angels and Men but God surpasseth our understandings It is impossible Magnus denotat duo magnitudinem extensionis magnitudinem cujustibet perfectionis sapientiae c. for Men and Angels to conceive the greatness of God The Angels shall be prying and prying to eternity yet never shall they see God fully perfectly and comprehensively Great is the Lord and greatly to be praised his greatness is unsearchable Psal 145. 3. When God is said to be Great it always noteth his Infinitenes Great beyond all conception of Angels and Men could they conceive his greatness God were not Infinite 'T is possible to search out the depth of the Sea of the Earth of the height of Heaven but God is a bottomless Ocean of Majesty and perfection 't is impossible to reach the height and to fathom the depth of God's Majesty you cannot come near him whom no man hath seen nor can see visione comprehensiva 1 Tim. 6. 16. his infinite Majesty will find the Angels and Saints work to eternity to find him out to comprehend him and when they have done what they can they cannot comprehend him Do not I fill heaven and earth saith the Lord Jer. 23. 24. The heaven is my throne the earth is my footstool where is the house that ye build unto me and where is the place of my rest Isa 66. 1. Thus Zophar speaks to Job Canst thou by searching find out God canst thou find out the Almighty to perfection It is high as heaven what canst thou do deeper then hell what canst thou know the measure thereof is longer then the earth and broader then the sea Job 11. 7 8 9. CHAP. IV. I Shall now lay down several Reasons to prove that God is infinite and incomprehensible 1. If God were not incomprehensible Reas 1. then there may be something which is extra Deum beyond or above or without God which hath not his being in God but these places of Scripture manifest nothing can be above or beyound God Psal 139. 7. ad 12. sheweth that there is no fleeing from God's presence and that no creature can be where God is not Job 11. He is higher then the heavens c. 2. If God were not infinite and incomprehensible Reas 2. then there would be something that is an adequate measure of his greatness If there be any such measure of his greatness then it should be the Heaven of heavens which is of the largest capacity seeing it containeth within it's compass the whole created world but this is not the measure for behold the heaven of heavens cannot contain him he is higher than the heavens deeper than the earth 3. If God were not infinite but Reas 3. finite then 't is possible that God might move from place to place as finite bodies may 4. If God were not infinite then Reas 4. it is possible for us
Here God gives a reason why he is a God afar off as well as at hand and seeth what men do in every secret place because he fills Heaven and earth he is in all places CHAP. II. HEnce I Note That God is every-where Observ present This point I will first prove by Scripture Psal 139. from 7. to the 13. verse In the foregoing verse he sheweth how God knew his down-sitting and up-rising and all his thoughts all his words all his actions not a thought word or action but God knew them altogether God besets us behind before on each side he compasseth us about therefore he seeth all Whither shall I go from thy Spirit that is from Gods knowledge and understanding of his wayes If I ascend into Heaven thou art there that is the place of thy special residence If I make my Bed in Hell Hell is taken for the Grave If I should be buried as deep as the centre of the earth behold there thou art Ver. 3. If I take the mings of the Morning He alludes to the swift spreading of the light of the Sun which at day-break in a moment spreads from East to West If I should in a moment flie from one part of the World to another yet I could not flie from thy presence If men think the darkness shall cover them the Night shineth as the day darkness and light are both alike Thou hast possessed my reins Thou canst not flie away from God God hath possession of thee God is more present to thee than thy own soul is Though they dig into Hell thence shall mine hand take them though they climb up to Heaven thence will I bring them down and though they hide themselves in the top of Carmel I will search and take them out thence and though they be hid from my sight in the bottom of the Sea c. Am●s 9. 2 3. It sheweth there is no escaping of Gods judgment when he comes forthtvisit the iniquities of rebellious persons God is said not to be far from every one of us for in him we live and move and have our being In him Tanquam domicilio nos capiente undique ambiente God is thorough and thorough every one of us we are in him and he in us Acts 17. 27 28. The World is in God as a little Sponge in the v●st Sea the Ocean compasseth it round about and doth penetrate every part of the Sponge or as a little Glass in the light of the Sun the light is within it and without it pierceth thorow every part of it and 't is diffused round about it Thus God is within every creature is more present to the creature than the creature is to it self he is within thy spirit thy soul and each particle of every thing thy soul is more present to thee than thy body God is more present to thee than thine own soul CHAP. III. IN the handling of this Attribute I will shew what Gods Omnipresence is in divers particulars then answer some Objections or Questions and so make use of the point A thing is said to be in place three wayes 1. Circumscriptivè so all bodies are in place circumscribed with local terms so lim●te● in this place as they cannot be in another place at the same time one part of the body is beyond another and each part hath its cer●ain dimensions 2. Definitiv● so Angels are in place who have not one par● of their being beyond another as bodies have ● but in respect of their being operation are in this o● that place as they cannot be at the same time in another place 3. Repl●tiv●● filling every place o● possessing all places real and imaginary ye● beyond all imaginary places So God is in place filling Heaven ●●●th Hell all imaginary places and beyond all imaginary places Take these Propositions 1. God is in all places at once bodie● P●op 1. may remove from place to place Angels may remove from place to place from Heaven to Earth from Earth to Heaven again from this place to another place but God is in all places at once he fills Heaven and Earth and Hell at once and is immoveable he doth not move from place to place Wicked men may run from one part of the world to the other climb up to Heaven hide themselves in the bottom of the Sea but cannot go from him God is in all these places at once 2. God is wholly everywhere Prop. 2. whole God is in Heaven whole God in earth when we say God is every-where we must not conceive that part of God is here and part of God in another place part in Heaven part in earth part in every creature but all God or whole God is in Heaven is in earth is everywhere neither must we conceive that God is more in this place more in that place a greater part of God in the greater part of the World and a lesser part of God in the lesser part of the World but as the Philosophers say of the Soul of man that it is tota in toto tota in qualibe● parte it is all in all and all in every part so whole God is in Heaven and in earth and whole God is in every part he is totaliter totus in every place 3. Though God ●e every where and Prop. 3. in every creature yet God is not part of the creatu●e nor is he defiled with the filthy creatures though God be present tot●e wicked and in the wicked y●t not defiled with them but God subsisteth in h●s glorious purity separated from all God is conjunct● ssimu● remotissimus praesentissimus segregatissimus He is most near as a man cannot be nearer to himself than God is to him yet God is infinitely remote from the creature in respect of defilement from them and being part of them CHAP. IV. AGain God is present three wayes 1. Per Potentiam by his Power upholding governing preserving all things In him we live move and have our being ●e●ause he is present he gives life to eve●y living thing motion to every moving thing and prese●veth every thing in their being God worketh everywhere having all creatures in subjection to him 2. God is everywhere per inspectionem in respect of his knowledge All things are naked and bare before him God beholdeth all things actions persons thoughts speeches gestures yea every creature at all times everywhere by one single view and not one thing after another successively as we do He beholdeth all things thy secret thoughts and intents thy hidden purposes and the n●mble and qu●ck motions of thy heart are as clear and n●ked and visible to God as the Moon in the clear Sky is to our eyes and far more manifest and open to him 3. God is everywhere present per Essentiam by his Ess●nce His Essence fills Heaven and Earth he is essentially present to every Creature and in every Creature The two former wayes may be without