euill and pernicious man by excommunication which is an act of externall Iurisdiction called by Canon lawyers Actus sori contentiosi As to absolue or retaine sinnes in the Sacrament are acts of Internall Iurisdiction appertaininge to sorum conscientiae the tribunall of conscience 17. So that as the temporall magistrate for furnishinge of his authoritie hath Power also to punish temporallie when occasion is offered and this either in goods body or life so haue Spirituall Magistrates also by Christ his appointment Ecclesiasticall Power not onlie to teach exhorte instruct and direct as hath been said but to punish in like maner by Spirituall Censures much more greiuous and dreadfull in respect of the life to come than are the fore named punishments of the ciuill magistrate for this life Which Censures are three in number answeringe after a certaine manner to the former three of the temporall magistrate and these are accordinge to Catholike diuinitie and Canons of the Church Suspension Interdict and Excommunication which I leaue further to discusse in this place THE SECOND PART OF THIS CHAPTER About the Subordination of these two Povvers the one to the other and different Greatnes of them both §. I. 18. Vpon these and other like considerations then and premisses Catholike deuines doe deduce that these two Povvers of Spirituall and Temporall Iurisdiction whensoeuer they meet togeather as in the Christian Common-wealth they doe they are subordinate the one to the other according to the rule of Aristotle in Philosophie which holdeth also in this case of diuinitie that whensoeuer the ends of anie faculties be subordinate and doe serue the one to the other there also the faculties themselues are subordinate And so wheras the end of Spirituall Authoritie is to direct men to euerlastinge Saluation of their soules and the end Temporall Gouernment to procure their temporall prosperitie but yet with referment and subordination to the attainment also of life euerlasting in the next world it followeth by most certaine consequence that Temporall Gouernment is subordinate to the spirituall which is so much the more excellent and eminent as is an euerlastinge end aboue a temporall our immortall soule before our corruptible bodyes and the Kingdome of heauen before worldlie prosperitie 19. Out of which considerations no doubt did proceed those speeches of ancient and holie Fathers about the comparison of these two Povvers Ecclesiasticall and Temporall which are founde euery where in their workes highly preferringe the one before the other and subiecting the one vnto the other An me liberè loquentem aequo animo feretis saith S. Gregorie Nazianzen to the Emperour Nam ves quoque c. will you heare me with patience to speake my minde freely vnto you Which truelie you ought to doe for so much as the law of Christ hath made you subiect to my Power and to my tribunall For wee Bishops haue an Empyre also and that more excellent and perfect then yours except you will saie that spirit is inferiour to flesh and heauenly things to earthly But I doubt not but that you will take in good parte this my freedome of speach you being a sacred sheepe of my holie flocke and a disciple of the great Pastor rightly instructed by the Holy-ghost euen from your young years c. So Gregorie Nazianzen to the Emperour 20. And heere we see what difference this greate Doctor and Father S. Gregorie Nazianzen almost 1300. yeares gone did put between these two Powers of Kings and Bishops Ciuill and Ecclesiasticall dignitie euen as much as between flesh and spirit heauen and earth And the same difference doth S. Chrysostome set downe in his bookes of Priesthood and elswere I shall alleadge some place or two out of him as breifly as I may that you may see his sense and iudgement therin though I would wish the Reader to peruse the places themselues heere cited for that they will fullie satisfie him in this matter 21. First then in his third booke of Priesthood comparinge the Power of a King with the Power of a Priest he hath these words Habent quidem terrestres Principes vinculi potestatem verum corporum solum c. It is true that earthlie Princes haue power to binde but our bodyes onlie But the bands which Priests can lay vpon vs doe touch the soule it self and reach euen vnto the heauens so far forth as whatsoeuer Priests shall determine heere beneath that doth God ratifie aboue in heauen and confirmeth the sentence of his seruants vpon earth And what is this I pray you but that God hath giuen all heauenlie Power vnto them according to those words of his VVhose sinnes soeuer you shall retaine they are retained And what Power I beseech you can there be greater then this I read that God the Father gaue all manner of Power vnto his Sonne And I see againe that God the Sonne hath giuen ouer the self same Power vnto Priests c. what a manifest madnes then is it for any man to despise this Princedome of Priests without which we cannot possibly be made partakers either of eternall saluation or of the good promises of our Sauiour c. Quo nomine sacerdotes non modo plus vereri debemus quam vel Principes vel Reges verum etiam maiori honore quam parentes proprios honorare In which respect wee ought to reuerence feare Priests more not only then Princes and Kings but honour them also more then our owne parents c. All these are S. Chrysostomn wordes 22. And the same Saint in his Homilies vpon Esay the Prophet writeth thus Rex quidem ea quae sunt in terris sortitu◠est administranda c. The King hath receiued the administration and gouernment of those things that are on the earth But the Priests authoritie commeth from heauen whatsoeuer you shall binde saith Christ vpon earth that shall be bound in heauen To my King are committed earthlie things but to me heauenlie and when I say to me I vnderstand a Priest c. To the King are committed the bodies to the Priest the soules the King can remitt bodily spotts but the Priest can take away the spotts of sinne Maior hic principatus This principallitie of Priests is greater then that of Kings 23. Aud yet further in another Homilie vpon the same Prophet Sacerdotium principatus est ipso etiam regno venerabilius maiu◠Ne mihi narres purpuram c. Priesthood is a Princedome yea more venerable and great then is a Kingdome Doe not tell mee of the purple or diademe or scepter or golden apparrell of Kings for these are but shaddowes and more vaine then flowers at the spring time Si vis videre descrimen quantum absit Rex à sacerdote expende modum potestatis vtrique traditae If you will see indeed the true difference between them and how much the King is inferiour to a Priest consider
OF THE CONTROVERSY Discussed throughout this vvorks WHat is in the 〈…〉 in the 〈◊〉 yeare of 〈…〉 there is giuen 〈…〉 power and 〈…〉 as by any 〈…〉 hath 〈…〉 may lavvfully bee 〈…〉 did assigne 〈…〉 great Seale of England 〈…〉 diction whatsoeuer vvhich â—â— any manner â—pirituall 〈…〉 Authority or Iurisdiction can or may lavvfully be vsed to correct and 〈◊〉 errors heresies schismes abuses c. The question is Whether this authority and spirituall 〈…〉 to the ancient lawes of England in former times 〈…〉 were a Statute not introductory 〈…〉 lavv 〈…〉 only of an old so as if the said Act had neuer 〈◊〉 made yet the 〈…〉 that authority and might haue giuen it to others as 〈…〉 holdeth the affirmatiue part and the Catholicke 〈…〉 TO THE RIGHT VVORSHIPFVLL SYR EDVVARD COOKE KNIGHT His Maiesties Attorney generall SYR I had no sooner taken a sight of your last Booke entituled The fifth Part of Reportes vvhich vvas some number of monethes after the publication therof in England but there entred vvith the reading a certaine appetite of ansvvering the same and this vpon different motiues as vvell in regarde of your person and place abilitie and other circumstances depending theron as also of the subiect and argument it selfe vvhich yovv handled and manner held in handling therof to â—he greatest preiudice vvrong and disgrace of Catholickes and Catholicke religion that you could deuise And first in your person and place I considered your facultie and profession of the common lavves of our Realme your long standing and speciall preferment therin your experience and iudgemeÌ„t gathered thereby your estimation and credit in the Common-vvealth and your authority honour and riches ensuing thervpon all vvhich drevv me to the greater consideration of your Booke but principally your said profession of our Common temporall Municipall lawes vvhich science aboue all other next to Diuinitie it selfe doth confirme and conuince vnto the vnderstanding of an English-man the truth of the Catholicke Roman religion For so much as from our very first Christian Kings Queenes vvhich must nedes be the origen and beginning of all Christian common lavves in England vnto the raigne of King Henry the eight for the space of more then nyne hundred yeares all our Princes and people being of one and the selfe same Catholicke Roman religioÌ„ their lavves must needes be presumed to haue byn conforme to their sense and iudgment in that behalfe and our lavvyers to the lavves so as novv to see an English temporall lavvyer to come forth and impugne the said Catholicke religion by the antiquity of his Common-lavves throughout the tymes and raignes of the said Kings in fauour of ProtestaÌ„ts Lutheranes Caluinistes or other professors not knovvne in those dayes is as great a nouelty and vvonder as to see a Philosopher brought vp in Aristotles schole to impugne Aristotle by Aristotles learning in fauour of Petrus Ramus or any other such nevv aduersary or lately borne Antagonist Or as to behold an ancient Phisitian trayned vp in Galens tents to fight against Galen and Galenistes out of their ovvne bul-vvarkes or fortresses yea and this in ayde of Paracelsians or any other fresh crevv of Alchimian doctors vvhatsoeuer 3. This first consideration then of your person place and profession did inuyte me strongly to come and see vvhat you said in this behalfe but no lesse did the argumeÌ„t or subiect of your booke togeather vvith your maÌ„ner of treating the same of vvhich tvvo points I shall speake seuerally for that they haue seuerall ponderations all in my opinion both important rare and singular For vvhat more important matter can be thought of among ChristiaÌ„s then to treat of Spirituall Power Ecclesiasticall Authority being the kinges bench of Christ on earth the table of his scepter the tribunall of his dominion iurisdiction vvhereof dependeth the vvhole direction of soules the remission of our sinnes the efficacy of his Sacraments the lavvfulnes of all priesthoode and ministery the gouernment of the vvhole Church and finally the vigour frute effect of all Christian religion This is the importance of your argument M. Attorney and consider I pray you vvhether it standeth vs not much in hand to be attentiue vvhat you say and hovv substantially you pleade in this matter 4. And as for the other tvvo circumstances of rarenes and singularity vvhere may they more be seene then in this so vveighty a case conteyning the vvhole povver of the sonne of God both in heauen and earth for so much as belongeth to remission of sinnes and gouernement of his earthly inheritance vvhich is heere handled and ouer-ruled by a temporall lavvyer and by him giuen to a temporall Lady and Queene and this not only by force of a temporall Statute made in ParlameÌ„t to that effect the first yeare of her raigne vvhereby Ecclesiasticall Supremacy vvas ascribed vnto her but by the very vigour of her temporall crovvne it self vvithout any such Statute and by vertue of the ancient pretended Common-lavves of our Realme vvhich Common-lavves being made receaued introduced and established by Catholicke Kings and Queenes as hath byn said maketh the matter so strange and rare the vvonder admiration so great as neuer paradox perhaps in the vvorld seemed more rare singular in the eyes of Philosophers then this in the iudgement of learned Deuines And vvho then vvould not be allured vvith this singular nouelty to search somvvhat after the depth of so nevv deuised a mystery 5. After this ensueth as considerable your methode manner of handling this subiect vvhich to me seemeth nothing vulgar and consequently to you and 〈…〉 particularitâ—es 〈…〉 ‑ cero That yo◠〈…〉 uersies and 〈…〉 forth All that 〈…〉 grâ—â—e repâ—â—â—â—◠〈…〉 your side 〈…〉 vse your 〈…〉 the truth for 〈…〉 modesty and 〈…〉 7. All thâ—â—â—â—hin 〈…〉 encourage 〈…〉 reuievv o◠〈…〉 hope to my 〈…〉 modesty and 〈…〉 so much comm 〈…〉 ued and intenâ—â—◠〈…〉 cleere face 〈…〉 in your 〈…〉 you vvill doe 〈…〉 ‑ cile cedes 〈…〉 your self â—â— the 〈…〉 animo digâ—â—â—â—◠〈…〉 se sua spoâ—te 〈…〉 in deed to confessâ—◠〈…〉 fortitude but 〈…〉 ner goeth grea◠〈…〉 soules neuer-dying 〈…〉 â—e accompted our highest interest for that the â—uestion novv in hand betvveene you and me â—oÌ„cerneth the same most neerly as in the sequent â—reface vvill more largelie appeare â— Novv only I am to say promise also on my â—ehalfe that I meane to proceed in the prosecuâ—ion of this vvorke according to your foresaid â—rescriptions of truth temperance modesty and vrâ—anity and this both in center and circumference â—s neere as I can and if necessity at anie time or â—pon anie occasion shall enforce me to be more earnest it shall be rather in the matter it self then against the man I meane your self vvhose person and place I shall alvvaies haue in devv regard though I may not omit to tell you that in some partes of your booke especially tovvardes the end
Angells other Saints in heaueÌ„ for that they doe not know all things which may bee knowne this being proper to God alone Albeit they know so much as is sufficient to their euerlasting beatitude So as this kind of IgnoraÌ„ce may stand vvith blessednes in heauen And vpon earth also the Scripture signifieth that it is lawfull and good for men to be ignorant in many things not to know or desire to know more then is needfull which leadeth to curiosity and this of Ignorantia negatiua 11. Priuatiua ignorantia is that which depriueth a man of some knowleg which he may and ought to haue And vnto this our Deuines doe shew that Error doth ad an approbation of that which is false either in iudgment or will And vnto Error heresie doth ad yet further pertinacity and obstinacie of will especially And these are the fower degrees of Ignorance in this sense to witt Negatiue Priuatiue Erroneous and Hereticall But now this priuatiue Ignorance is subdiuided againe into diuers other members and braunches As for example into Voluntary and Vnuoluntary Ignorance and Vnuoluntary hath two degrees The one that is altogeather vnuoluntary so as by noe diligence of ours it could be auoyded and therfore by Deuines is called Inuincible and this is so far of from being a synne or causing synne as it doth excuse any synne whatsoeuer For if a man should kill his owne father not knowing him or what he doth at all nor any way concurringe to the said Ignorance he were to be excused I doubt not euen by M. Attorneys law 12. The other sort of vnuoluntary Ignorance called Vincible is that which albeit it proceedeth not of our owne will directly yet with some kinde of diligence it might haue bene auoided and preuented and according to this it may be culpable or vnculpable Voluntary Ignorance also may be either effectâ—ta that is willingly procured either in it self or in her cause or by some grosse negligence not auoided and this either antecedenter consequenter concomitanter in facto vel in iure and other considerations and circumstances which Catholike Deuines doe prescribe for discerning or iudging of mens synnes and offences according to knowledg and a good conscience And in this are they occupied whilest Protestants stand crying out and exclaiming against Ignorance in generall and that for the most part so ignorantly as in nothinge more they shew their ignorance then by such manner of impugning Ignorance I will not apply this to M. Attorney whome I take in his art to be a man of much science yet is his speach in this place considerable for his degree Error saith hee doth in her proceeding hee should haue said his according to the gender so infinitely multiplie her self produceth such monstrous and strange chimeraes floateth in such and so many incertainties as all such into whom she infuseth any of her poisoned breath she dangerously infects or intoxicates A strange and sharpe inuectiue for all men more or lesse doe erre if wee beleeue either Gods word or our owne experience Some ignorance also is inauoidable some excusable some laudable some tollerable some culpable and some inculpable as before it is shewed and being but a priuation or negation how commeth she to haue such poison and soe contagious a breath as here she is accused to haue without any distinction at all seeing that in some degree she is also in Angells as hath bene sayd and may be in good and most learned men vpon earth as holy Iob testified of himself Si simplex fuero saith he hoc ipsum ignorabit anima mea If I be simple or innocent in the sight of God yet shall my soule be ignorante of this to wit in this life To which purpose the holy Ghost saith in another place Nescit homo vtrum amore an odio dignus fit A man knoweth not in this life wheather he be worthy of loue or hatred before God And againe Nescit homo suum finem A man knoweth not his end And none of these ignorances are reprehended Nay S. Paul doth commend and counsell ignoraÌ„ce to the Romanes in many things writing thus I say vnto yow all by the grace of Christ which is giuen vnto mee that yow goe aboute to know noe more theÌ„ you ought to know but that your knowledg be to sobriety And this is Catholike sober doctrine of science ignorance whilest sectaries doe intemperatly bragg of knowledg and obiect ignorance to others 13. And surely I cannot but marueile with what shew of reason this Knight Attorney here now as also another knight Puritan not long agoe in his writinge should obiect so confidently Ignorance to Romane Catholiks of these our dayes For if we cast our eyes vpoÌ„ any kinde of learning whatsoeuer that may be handled by learned men and skill showed therin whether it be diuinity or other science the Catholiks are ten for one in number in all preeminence before any one sect of our dayes or all put togeather Looke ouer all sciences writers therof at this day as of Eloquence skill of toungs Philosophy Mathematicke histories and the like number the authors consider their substance weigh their estimation and see whether it be not so or noe euen in the opinion of all protestant students 14. And as for Theologie which is the principall subiect wheras they handle only one or two partes of positiue Diuinity to witt controuersies and the text of Scripture wee handle not only the same much more abundantly as appeareth by our writers both of controuersies and commentaryes but doe handle two other partes also of much more importance which is scholasticall appertaining to knowledg morall for direction of mens consciences in practise both which are wholy wanting in Protestant schooles 15. And this being soe as by the eye is euidently verified to him that will look vpon it how inept and ridiculous is it that euery Sectary beginninge to write against vs shall presently take his exordium from obiecting Ignorance wheras euery meane learned Catholike man by verdict of common sense and reason if no other proofs were must needs be presumed to haue more knowledg then a hundered sectaryes togeather For that hee following in his knowledg and learninge touching all points of his faith the knowledg learninge wisdome and authority of the vniuersall Catholike Church consistinge of infinite wise and learned men and directed by the highest wisdome of God himself he maketh all their wisdome his wisdome their knowledg his knowledg and their learning his learning in this point of his saluation Wheras the sectary following his owne sense and braine ech one in his fancie is alone as you see and hath no true knowledge learning or wisdome at all though he bragg neuer so much of speciall knowledge and illumination as before you haue heard out of Tertullian and Irenaeus to haue been their auncient spirit and will be to the worlds end And
Iurisdiction be of Gods institution also and duelie to be honoured in his Church and Christian common wealth as before wee haue shewed yet doe they teach the same to be far otherwise deriued and receiued from God then is Spirituall Power that is to saie not immediatlie by Gods owne deliuerie therof but mediatlie rather to witt by meditation of the law of nature and nations For by the law of nature God â—ath ordeined that there should be politicall gouernment for that otherwise no multitude could be preserued which the law of nations assuming hath transferred that gouernment vnto one or more according to the particular formes therof as Monarchie Aristocracy or Democracy or mixt wherin is to be noted that the ordination of God by the law of nature doth giue politicall Power vnto the multitude immediately and by them mediately to one or more as hath been said But Spirituall Power Christ gaue immediatly and by himself to the Apostles and their Successors by these words whatsoeuer you shall bind vpon earth the same sâ—all be bound in heauen And whatsoeuer you shall loose one earth shall be loosed in heauen Wherby you se a generall large commission graunted to them of binding loosing Quaecunque whatsoeuer without exception And the like to S. Peter as head and chiefe by speciall power and commission of those words Pasce oues meas Pasce agnos meos Feed my sheep feed my lambs thryse repeated signifying therby the Preheminence and Primacy of his Pastorall Authoritie in Gods Church as the auncient Fathers haue allwayes vnderstood the same For that to the office of Supreame feedinge is required also all other authoritie necessarie to gouerne direct commaund restraine and punish in like manner when need requireth 8. About which point is to be obserued and considered attentâ—uelie say Catholike Deuines and most learned lawyers that when God almightie giueth any office he giueth also sufficient Power and Authoritie euery way to execute that office as when he giueth the office of a King or temporal Magistrate for good of the Common-wealth he giueth Authoritie therwith not onlie to direct command and instruct but to punish and compell also yea and to extirpate and cut of those when need is that are rebellions or otherwise deserue that punishment And the like is to be obserued in Spirituall Power and Iurisdiction according to which the Ciuil law saith Cui Iurisdictio data est ea quoque concessa esse intelliguntur sine quibus Iurisdictio expleri non potuit To whosoeuer iurisdiction is giuen to him also must we vnderstand to be graunted all those thinges without which his Iurisdiction cannot be fulfilled And the Canon law to the same effect Iurisdictio nullius videretur esse momenti si coërcionem aliquam non haberet Iurisdiction would seeme to be of no moment if it had not some power to compell And finally it is a general rule giuen in the said Canon law that when anie cause is committed to anie man he is vnderstood to receiue also ful authoritie in al matters belonging to that cause 9. Out of all which is deduced that for so much as Christ our Sauiour God and Man hauing purchased to him felfe by the price of his owne blood a most deerlie beloued Church and committed the same as S. Paul saith to be gouerned by his Apostles and Bishops their successours vnto the worlds end it must needs follow that he hath indowed the same Church with sufficient spirituall Authoritie both directiue and coactiue to that end for gouerning our soules no lesse than he hath done the temporal CoÌ„monwealth for affaires of the body Nay much more by how much greater the importance is of the one than of the other as before hath been said 10. If you aske me yet more particularlie where and how by what commission and to whom Christ our Sauiour left this high Spiritual Power in his Church what it is and wherin it consisteth I answere first to the last that it consisteth as often hath been said in guiding our soules in this world to euerlasting saluation in the next Which thinge for that principallie it dependeth of this that we auoide sinnes in this life or if we committ them that they be pardoned vs or corrected by this Power Christ our Sauiour doth most aptlie giue and describe the same Power by the words of binding or loosing sinnes And therefore in the foresaid place alleadged out of S. Matthew his Ghospel he giueth the said commission as you haue heard VVhatsoeuer you shal binde or loose vpon earth shal be bound or loosed in heauen Wherby the Church of God hath allwaies vnderstood full authoritie of Iudicature to haue been giuen to the Apostles and their successors to discerne iudge binde or loose in all things belonging to this end of directing soules 11. Truth it is that diuers learned deuines are of opinion that in these places Christ did but promise to his Apostles to giue them this high iudiciall authoritie in his Church when by his death and resurrection it should be founded And that the actuall performance of this promise was made vnto them in the 20. if S. Iohns ghospell where Christ said vnto them Sicut misit me pater ego mitto vos As my father sent me so I doe send you and then presentlie breathing vpon then he addeth Receiue the Holie-ghost whose sinnes you shall forgiue they are forgiuen vnto them and whose you shal retaine they are retained Where we se that Christ speaketh now in the present tense they are forgiuen and they are retained and not in the future as before in the place of S. Matthew his ghospell And we must note that those words of our Sauiour As my father sent mee so I doe send you are vnderstood by auncient Doctors of Authoritie as though he had said that with the same power authoritie that my father sent mee into this world to gather gouerne my Church I doe also send you that is to saie withall spirituall power necessarie to your office and charge both on earth and in heanen And therfore he saith in S. Matthew his Ghospell That whatsoeuer they shall binde or loose vpon earth which are the Acts of high iudges shall be loosed or bound in heauen 12. And to S. Peter in like manner as Cheif of the rest the promise of his Supreame and singular power besides the other which out of the former general commission he receiued with the rest of the Apostles was made vnto him first in S. Matthews ghospell when Christ said Thou art Peter which signifieth a stone or rocke and vpon this rock will I build my Church and will giue vnto thee the keies of the Kingdome of heauen c. Which he perfourmed afterward in the 21. chapter of S. Iohn after his resurrection when asking him three times of his loue towards him he as manie times gaue him coÌ„mission of high-pastor ouer
spirituall gouernment to women but placeth it where it ought to bee in S. Peter his Successors aboue all others I shall alleadge the place somewhat more at large which containeth a graue ponderation of those words of our Sauiour vnto S. Peter in S. Iohns ghospell Petre amas me c. Peter dost thou loue mee more then the rest and he answearing that he did Christ replied if thou loue mee feed my sheep Wherof S. Chrysostome doth inferre that Christ in these words did first of al specially commit the supreme charge of his said sheep to S. Peter and his Successors Pecudâ—â— curam saith he quas sanguine suo acquisierat tum Petro tum Petri Successoribus committebat He committed to Peter and to Peters Successours the care of his sheep which he had purchased with his owne bloud And againe Petrum Christus authoritate hac praeditum esse voluit reliquos item Apostolos longe praecellere Christ would haue Peter to bee indued with this supreme authority ouer his sheep and therein far to excell all the rest of the Apostles c. 37. Secondlie S. Chrysostome maketh a deep ponderation vpon these words of our Sauiour of the singular loue which he would haue Pastors to beare vnto his sheep and which hee bare himself giuing his bloud for them and what hee exacted at this high Pastors hands for gouerning and feeding of them in this his demaund or interrogation concerning his loue Atque illi quidem licebat saith he verbis huiusmodi Petrum affari Si me amas Petre Ieiuniae exerce super nudam humum dormi c. Our sauiour Christ might haue spoken to Peter in this sorte vpon his answeare of loue if thou loue me Peter exercise fasting sleep on the bare ground watch continuallie releiue them that bee oppressed shew thy self a Father to orphans and bee vnto widdowes insteed of their husbands But now Christ pretermitting all these other good works what saith hee vnto him Pasce oues meas c. Feed and gouerne my sheep for that all the rest of those good works before meÌ„tioned may bee perfourmed by many subiects not only men but also women At cum de ecclesiae Praefectura de credenda huic vel illi tam multarum animarum cura agitur vniuersa quidem mulieris natura functionis istius moli ac magnitudini caedat oportet itemque bona virorum pars But when the Question is of any gouernmeÌ„t ouer the Church or about committing to this or that person the charge of so many soules then must all women kind yeeld and giue place to the weight and greatnes of this function and so must also a good parte of men to witt all such as are of the lay sorte and haue not Ecclesiasticall iurisdiction laid vpon them by the ordinarie means before mentioned of ordination succession in the Church of God descending originally from this first fountaine of all ecclesiasticall power vpon earth committed by the sonne of God to S. Peter and his Successours to endure to the worlds end 38. And thus haue wee cleerlie the sentence beleife iudgement of S. Chrysostome concerning spirituall authority for gouerning our soules that it was giuen eminently to S. Peter and his Successors aboue the rest of the Apostles but so as only men and those not all but Priests alone and Cleargie-men doe or may succeed therein and that all kinde of women are excluded in respect of their sex from any superiority or prefecture ouer the Church And what-soeuer S. Chrysostome held preached or left written in this behalfe be being so great a Doctor and piller of Christs Church in his dayes the thing it self neuer contradicted or reprehended by any other may assuredly be held for the common doctrine iudgement sense faith and beleife of the vniuersall Catholike Church in that age and consequently also both of the former and following ages vntill our time And how much this consideration ought to preuaile with a prudent man that followeth not passion but reason and hath care of his owne soule is easy to see And so much of this matter 39. And now further I remember that I promised to proue my negatiue also by the ancient common municipall lawes of England of which though I might say as before I said of the Fathers and Doctors of former tymes that they ordayned nothing expresly of this particular case for that they neuer imagined that any such matter would fall out yet doe they determine that expresly which includeth this which is that they confirme euery-where the libertyes preheminencyes and prerogatiues of of the Church and Church-men of England which doe principally consist in this that only Ecclesiasticall men haue Power and Iurisdiction in Ecclesiasticall affayres and that no lay person and much lesse a woman can meddle therin and that there be two distinct swords in a Christian Common-wealth the one temporall in the hands of the Prince the other Ecclesiasticall in the hands of the Bishop and that the Ecclesiasticall is greater and more soueraigne then the temporall that this later must help be subordinate to the former All which yow shall see decreed as well in the lawes of K. Edgar and K. Edward before the Conquest as also of the Conquerour himself which after in due places we shal set downe 40. And to all this now may we ad certaine manifest reasons which besides the foundations before laid or rather out of them all our Deuines doe alleadge whie a woman may not be head of the Church or haue spirituall Iurisdiction in Ecclesiasticall affayres Wherof the first is that Christ our Sauiour being a Priest according to the order of Melchisedech and refusing to be a temporall King as out of the ghospell is euident he left in his place Priests to gouerne his Church as before hath bene declared both out of Scriptures and ancient Fathers but a woman cannot be a Priest as both we and Caluinists doe hold though Luther taught otherwise for a tyme as hath bene said and is refuted at lardge by K. Henry the 8. Q. Elizabeths Father in his booke against him and therefore the said Q. Elizabeth could not hold the place of Christ in spirituall Iurisdiction in the Church of England 41. A second reason is founded vpon the maxime before alleadged by M. Attorney Cui licet quod maius est licet quod minus He that can doe the greater can doe the lesse But it is more to be able to giue authority to others to exercise spirituall functions and Iurisdiction than to doe the same in his owne person ergo if Q. Elizabeth could giue authority to Bishops and Pastors to make Ministers administer the Sacraments preach and teach with the like which belongeth to the head of the Church than could she doe them also her self Which conclusion notwithstanding all English Protestants commonly doe deny yet is the Consequence euident and the Minor proposition is
temporall sword of Constantine the Emperour and the Sea Apostolicke is more potent then any Imperiall power or authority And I would aske whether your power be of God or froÌ„ men Did not the God of Gods speakâ— to you in Peter the Apostle sayinge VVhatsoeuer you shall bynd vpon earth shall be bound in heauen and whatsoeuer you shall loose vpon earth shall be loosed in heauen And why then doe you so negligently yea cruelly delay for so longe time to loose my sonne or rather why dare you not to doe it Perhaps you will say that this power giuen you by God of binding and loosing is for soules and not for bodies Let it be so Truely it is sufficient for vs if you would bind the soules of those that hold my sonnes body bound in prison And finally I know that it lyeth in your power to loose my sonne if the feare of God may euacuate in you the feare of man 42. Thus wrote this afflicted Queene vnto Celestinus the Pope and the same wrote diuers other great personages at the same tyme as may be seen in the said Petrus Blesensis and among others the foresaid Gualterus Archbishop of Roane and Gouernour of England a man of great authority learning and wisedome who after many reasons concludeth his Epistle thus Exerat ergo beati Petri gladium manus vestra Clementissime Pater quid quantum tanto filis debeatis exhibeatis in opere vt experientia mediante addiscant minores inferiores filij quantum à â—obis auxilium in suis necessitatibus debeant expectare Let your hand then most Clement Father draw forth the sword of Peter and doe you shew by workes how much you owe vnto so greate a child as is K. Richard so as by experiencâ— your lesser and lower children may learne how much help they may expect from you in their necessityes So he 43. And by this may appeare what opinion men had in those dayes of the Popes authority and let the Reader heer marke as also M. Attorney how vsuall a phrase it was at that tyme to name two distinct swords the one of Constantine the other of Peter thâ— one temporall ouer bodies the other spirituall ouer soules and thâ—â— the later was the greater and higher Which was the speach also and phrase of King Edgar before the Conquest and of the Conquerour himself in his lawes if you remember is now heer vsed againe and so was euer after vntill King Henry the 8. as by this our deduction will appeare And only this phrase of speach and common beleife of all our Kings and Countrey from time to time that there were two distinct swords or powers one temporall in the Prince and the other spirituall in the Pope is sufficient to ouerthrow M. Attorneys whole Booke though nothing els were said to it besides the purporte therof being as hath byn seen to proue that either no such distinction of swordes powers is to be admitted or that both are equally in the temporall Prince and so vsed and exercised by our auncient Kings of England 44. But now you see the vanity in truth absurdity of that Paradox refuted by all this heer set downe concerning K. Richard and many examples more might be alleadged during his raigne after his returne againe to England who meaning to euacuate the alienation of many thinges solde lent or empawned before for his going to Ierusalem caused himself to bee crowned againe in VVinchester reducing all thinges to a new order and among others he set downe Capitula placitorum Corona Regis The heads or cheife braunches of pleas that belong to the Kings Crowne or Courts wherein nothing at all is conteyned concerning Ecclesiasticall affaires but only De aduocationibus Ecclesiarum quae sunt de donatione Regis Of the aduowsons of such Churches as are of the Kings gift that is to say wherof he had Ius Patronatus Which is a small spirituall iurisdiction if we consider it well and may be in any secular man whatsoeuer that buyldeth or foundeth a Church And Matthaeus Parisiensis speaking of the Church of Normandy vnder K. Richard commendeth him highly for deliuering the said Church de longo seruitutis iugo from a long yoke of seruitude which secular men by little and little had brought in vpon her vnder other Kings and Dukes by often drawing Clergie-men to secular Iudges and tribunals inuadinge their goods restraining their liberties breaking their priuiledges and the like All which the said Author saith Ipso glorioso Rege Richardo annuente omnia disponente emendata sunt Were amended by the consent of glorious King Richard who disposed all things himself to the restitution of the ancient liberties freedome of the said Church of Normandie 45. It were ouer long to run ouer many other examples which might be alleadged to this effect for proofe of King Richards true Catholicke deuotioÌ„ towards the Church as also of his acknowledgement and obedience to the authority of the Sea of Rome in all Ecclesiasticall affaires during his life and raigne There are 4. or 5. epistles exstant in Houeden written to diuers parties by Celestinus the Pope which he wrote one soone after another concerning the forenamed Geffrey Archbishop of Yorke citing him to Rome to answere to certaine accusations laid against him by his Chanons and others accusing him among other things Quod â—enationibus aucupio totius animi studium applicabat That he applied his whole mind hunting and hauking And againe De inhonesta vita invtili conuersatione They accused him of dishonest life and vnprofitable conuersation For which though he were the Kings brother yet not making his appearance in Rome nor lending his lawfull defence or purgation thither he was suspended by the said Popes Bull and the King was so far of from taking it euill or defending him as he caused the lands and possessions of his Bishopricke to be seased on Praecepit illum dessesire saith Houeden de Episcopatu suo de Vice-comitatu Eboraci He commaunded him to be dispossessed of his Archbishopricke and of the Vicount-ship of Yorke 46. But afterward Celestinus being dead and Innocentius the third succeeding him in the Popedome and the said Geffrey amending his manners as may be presumed Misit literas suas deprecatorias ad Richardum Regem c. The said Pope Innocentius sent his letters to K. Richard of England requesting and exhorting him by Fatherly admonition that he would receiue into his loue and brotherly familiarity againe the said Archbishop at his request and suffer him in peace to returne to his Bishopricke for that otherwise he should be forced to vse Ecclesiasticall Censures against the said King and his Kingdome Vnto which petition ioyned with some commination as you see the King obeyed sending diuerâ— Bishops vnto the said Archbishop whose names Houeden setteth downe In spiritu humilitatis postulantes ex parte Regis vt ipse