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A08891 The fal of Babel By the confusion of tongues directly proving against the Papists of this, and former ages; that a view of their writings, and bookes being taken; cannot be discerned by any man living, what they would say, or how be vnderstoode, in the question of the sacrifice of the masse, the reall presence or transubstantiation, but in explaning their mindes they fall vpon such termes, as the Protestants vse and allow. Further in the question of the Popes supremacy is shevved, how they abuse an authority of the auncient father St. Cyprian, a canon of the I Niceene counsell, and the ecclesiastical historie of Socrates, and Sozomen. And lastly is set downe a briefe of the sucession of Popes in the sea of Rome for these 1600 yeeres togither; ... By Iohn Panke. Panke, John. 1608 (1608) STC 19171; ESTC S102341 167,339 204

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him Bellarmine bestirreth himselfe earnestly and mainely to purchase those priviledges De Rom. pont l. 1. c. 10. f. 90. S. Peter was not yet the foundation Ob. Mat. 18.18 yet keepe the text sound and not wronged First therfore he saith that when Christ said to Peter vade post me Sathan Get thee behind me Sathan he was not thē the foūdatiō for in that place Christ did promise that which he gaue him after his resurrection When we obiect the other text of Mathew ca. 18. for al the Apostles aswel as for Peter where Christ said to them al Sol. whatsoeuer yee binde on earth shal be bound in heaven c. He answereth That nothing is there giuen to the Apostles but that power only promised explaned and foretold which the Apostles and their successors should afterward haue and exercise We reply Reply if neither in that place were the keies giuen to the Apostles Ibid. c. 12 fol. 102. Whatsoeuer was promised to Peter in the 16. Matth. was performed to all in the 20. 21. of Iohn but only promised in what place then are they giuen I answere saith he They are given in the twenteth and one and twentith chapters of S. Iohns Gospel Thus hath Bellarmine confessed that whatsoeuer was promised in the 16. of Mathew as it were to Peter alone or in the 18. of Mathew to all the Apostles was performed both to Peter to them al in the 20. and 21 chapters of Iohn which concession free grant although it overthrow both what he would say else where al other his fellowes in this question of Supremacie for the Pope yet doth he afterward further inlarge it thus That the Apostles receiued al their iurisdictiō power immediatly from Christ Bellar. de Roman pont l. 4. c. 23. The Apostles had their authority from Christ even the same that hee had of his father it appeareth from the words of Christ Iob. 20. As my father sent me so send I you which words the ancient fathers Chrysostome and Theophilact do so expound that they do plainly say That the Apostles were made Christs Vicats yea that they did receiue the very office and authoritie of Christ Cyrill addeth vpon this texte That the Apostles were properly created Apostles and teachers of the whole world and that we should vnderstand that in the Apostolike authority al ecclesiastical power was cōtained therfore Christ did adde As my father sent me surely the father sent his son indued with ful power Where you see that the same thing is giuen to the Apostles by those words I send you which was promised to Peter by those I wil giue thee the keies was afterward shewed by those feede my sheepe Thus farre Bellarmine by whose testimony and grant it appeareth that the rest of the Apostles had as much power in the Church or over the Church as S. Peter had and consequently other bishops in their seueral places wil haue as much as the Pope even by those places of scriptures which they would challendge to make most for them The order of their successiō Stapl. returne of vntruths art 1. fol. 12. b. calleth Alexāder the 5. pope after Peter here he is the 7. L. 7. consist Apost c. 46. ex Bellar. de Rō pont l. 2. c. 4. f. 192. 193. 195. Damasus in Pontificiale Tertullian Ierome Optatus Augustine Epiphanius Ireneus l. 3. c. 3. Euseb eccles hist l. 3. c. 4 2. l. 4. c. 1. l. 5. c. 6. Bell. de Rom. pont l. 2. c. 15. l. 1. c. 27. Vterque Apostolus Romanam ecclesiam fūdauit et gubernauit Annot. 2. G●l● v. 7. fol. 500. In their table and notes at the end of the Acts of the Apostles Bellarm. de Rom. pont l. 2. c. 4. fol. 192. Sanders de visib mon. l. 7. 222. 223. 224. Thus much I thought good to shew you touching the glorious title of your table Now for the order The first is S. Peter Linus Cletus Clemens Anacletus Evaristus Alexander Sixtus Telesphorus Higinus Pius Anicetus Soter Eleutherius which is the fourteenth in number By the histories and most ancient fathers this succession is at first disordered and interrupted Clemens saith that S. Peter when death did draw neere appointed the Romane Bishopricke vnto him Dorotheus as Bellarmine also telleth vs doth place Linus next after S. Peter yet Damasus who was bishop of Rome and wrote thereof saith that Linus died before S. Peter Tertullian placeth Clemens after S. Peter and so doth S. Ierome Optatus and S. Augustine put Linus next Peter and Clemens in the third place S. Augustine mentioneth not Clerus at all but vtterly discardeth him so doth Optatus Epiphanius readeth them thus Peter Linus Cletus Clemens Ironeus who is ancienter then any of those before both leaueth out Cletus and bringeth Clemens after Anacletus It appeareth further by Ireneus Eusebius that they tooke S. Peter no more for a bishop of Rome thē S. Paul The church of Rome say they was found by the two most glorious Apostles Peter Paule and so in his catalogue reckoneth them And thē how doe you reconcile your table to Ireneus who maketh Eleutherius to bee the 12. but if you take in S. Peter for one and Cletus for an other you then make Eleutherius the 14. which is gaine said by Ireneus in whose time Eleutherius liued and whom by name he calleth the twelfe To cōfirme this truth the Rhemists themselues confesse that the Church of Rome was founded by S. Peter and S. Paule And further they tell vs that Prudentius the christian Poet calleth them both Principes Apostolorum princes of the Apostles giuing that title equally to them both and they themselues call them the two principall Apostles and the two cheife Apostles The like appeareth also from Epiphanius that ancient father Peter Paule founded the church at Rome who saith In Roma fuerunt prim● Petrus Paulus Apostoli ijdem Episcopi In Rome were the two Cheife Apostles Peter Paule and they were bishops also Cyrillus also calleth them Praesides ecclesiae Presidents of the church And touching his bishoplike residence there 25. yeares as they say hee sate they are faine to extenuate the time S. Peter often absent because he was seldome found there say he was often absent frō the cittie Thus is appeareth that the Church of Rome was founded aswell by S. Paule as S. Peter and that he had the title of Principall Cheife First Apostle as well as Peter Thus much from an essay of the order of the first 12. But touching the men The first 300. they were all martyrs we confesse them all good godly martyrs for 300. yeaers together to the nūber of 30. or there about although Marcellinus in the persecution vnder the Tirant Dioclesian did for feare of death offer sacrifice to Idols yet repenting he died a Martyr Sone vpon this