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A17442 Adelphomachia, or, The warrs of Protestancy being a treatise, wherein are layd open the wonderfull, and almost incredible dissentions of the Protestants among themselues, in most (if not all) articles of Protesta[n]cy, and this proued from their owne wordes & writinges / vvritten by a Cath. priest ; whereunto is adioyned a briefe appendix, in which is proued, first, that the ancient fathers, by the acknowledgments of the learned Protestants, taught our Cath. and Roman fayth, secondly, that the said fathers haue diuers aduantages about the Protestant writers, for finding out the true sense of the Scripture. B. C. 1637 (1637) STC 4263.7; ESTC S1838 109,763 196

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19. VVhether the Visible Church of God can wholy erre or not 20. VVhether set tymes of fasting from certaine meates be appointed only for Polytick order but with all for spirituall Considerations § 22. Besides the former disagreements touching the twenty Catholike Articles aboue recited There are certaine Catholike Points maintayned by diuers Protestants to be of that indifferency of Nature as that the belieuing or not belieuing of them it not in any sort necessarily to be exacted through any danger to the party belieuing them or not belieuing them The beliefe of which Points in particular other Protestants do hould as most impious superstitious and not standing with the Saluation of the party belieuing them The Articles are these following 1. Touching the Beliefe of Praying to Saintes 2. Touching the beliefe of the Reall Presence 3. Touching receauing vnder Both or One kind only 4. Concerning Freewill 5. Concerning the Indifferency of honoring the Reliques of Saintes 6. Touching our B. Lady being preserued from Originall sinne 7. Touching Satisfaction and Merit of Works 8. Concerning the Popes Primacy 9. Touching the Indifferency of Priuate Masse 10. Touching not only the Indifferency of Priuate Masse but of seuerall other Catholike Points so iointly maintayned in the Protestant Writings § 23. Now to all these former disagreements among the Protestants are adioyned certaine Porismata or Resultancyes ineuitably rising from a true Consideration of diuers of the said dissentions and Disagreements THE PREFACE Wherein First are discouered the seuerall sleights vsed by Protestants to charge the Church of Rome with Dissentions in doctrine Secondly it is proued that the Necessity of Vnity in Fayth ought to be in the Church of Christ. HORRENTIA Martis Arma Virumque cano Vndertaking to record the vnnaturall and blouddy Wars which the Protestant wageth against the Protestant in matter of Fayth And intending in this Ensuing discourse to dismantle and lay open to the view of all the naked state of Protestancy so far forth as it concernes its want of Vnity and the immortall Dissentions among the Professours thereof and further well remembring that our Aduersaries through their Serpentine calumny of some among them are euer ready pressed by way of Recrimination to obtrude though most wrongfully the like dissentions vpon vs Catholiks Therefore I haue thought good in the front hereof to remoue such Replies and surprize all Obiections by preuention as may seeme to fix vpon the Catholiks that blemish or Scar wherewith Protestancy lyes here iustly chargeable I herein imitating the proceeding of a carefull Generall in the Wars who first labours to preclude and forestall the Enemy of all Passages and Wayes whereby the approach of his forces might endanger him and then drawes out his owne Troupes for the assaulting of his said Enemy Well then to the point 1. First we are to obserue which the yawning and heedles Reader perhaps will not espye that in doctrines there are to be considered two things as Beza (a) Beza ●n Epist Theolog. Epist 18. sayth 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 explicandum sempe● 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 nunquam nisi sobriè prudenter attingen●um well noteth to wit The 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 signifying a Categoricall or Positiue assertion that such a thing is true in doctrine hath euer reference to the Conclusion As for example That Saintes in Heauen do heare vs. The 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 hath respect only to the Manner or some other Circumstance of the Conclusion As whether the Saintes do heare vs by behoulding all things intuitiuely in God in whom they see all things Or that they heare our Prayers through their celerity and incredible speedines of the Motion of their soules who in the smallest tyme are able to descend and ascend from Heauen to earth This 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or Conclusion in Fayth is that in which all Catholikes continuing Catholiks do vnanimously agree But touching the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or manner of such a point or Conclusion they dissent sometymes among themselues Because the manner of a point in doctrine is for the most part of that Adiaphorous and indifferent Nature as that seuerall learned Men may teach seuerally touching the said Manner without any breach of Fayth And we are thus warned from being ouercurious and searching into the Manner of the Conclusion by an ancient Father who sayth (b) Nazianze●● Orat 1. 〈◊〉 Theologia 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 And thus accordingly hereto all Men are obliged to belieue all decreed Articles of Fayth yet not euer to belieue the particular Manner or Reason thereof Which manner being a Point but of Indifferency is often reduced for triall to some Scholasticall subtilty or apprehension 2. I am to aduertize the Reader that whereas there is Questio Juris and Questio Facti we are heere to obserue that matter of Fact but not matter of Fayth may be controuerted among Deuines without any want of Vnity in doctrine because the Sentences determinations passed vpon matter of Fact may and ought to be altered vpon later and better Informations touching the matter of Fact And in this sense and vpon this Occasion were alterable the Decrees obiected against vs by some Protestants of Pope Formosas by Pope Steuen the 6. and Pope Sergius the 3. Which decrees were after confirmed againe by Pope Romanus Theodorus 2. and Iohn 10. Now the reason of altering the said decrees originally proceeded from matter of Fact to wit whether Formosus was truly and Canonically elected Pope and consequently had full power to make those decrees or was but only a schismaticall Pope And thus these other Popes maintayned seuerall Opinions touching his Election being but matter of Fact and according to their different iudgments therein did abrogate or confirme the decrees of the said Formosus 3. A Third Obseruation may heere be taken from the authority of S. Austin thus writing Sometimes (c) S. Austin l. de Baptismo Contra Iulian. Telag l. 1. c. 2. the most learned and best defenders of the Catholik Rule do without breaking the Frame of Fayth not accord And more Diuers (d) August de Baptism contra Donat l. ●● c. 18. men be of diuers iudgments without breach of Peace vntill a Generall Councell allow some one part for cleare pure Thus according hereto we are instructed that if any doubt of Points concerning Fayth and Religion do occur and rise neuer before determined by the Authority of Gods Church Christians may maintayne different Opinions touching the same Points vntill the Voyce of Gods Church hath definitiuely and sententionally decreed the said Points one only way And according to this Caution the Controuersy houlden betweene the Thomists and Scotists concerning the Conception of our Blessed Lady much insisted vpon against vs by our Aduersaries may be houlden without any violence to Vnity in Fayth seing this Controuersy is not yet determined and defined by the Church