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A05533 The reasons of a pastors resolution, touching the reuerend receiuing of the holy communion: written by Dauid Lindesay, D. of Diuinitie, in the Vniuersitie of Saint Andrewes in Scotland, and preacher of the gospell at Dundy Lindsay, David, d. 1641? 1619 (1619) STC 15656; ESTC S103094 57,265 200

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wee come with thankesgiuing and praise to worship him as wee should all professe our selues to doe in this action In this point I haue beene forced to bee somewhat larger because there is one who to maintaine his Thesis for Sitting against Kneeling bendeth spendeth all his wit in vaine to proue that this Sacrament should not nor can not bee called the Eucharist against the sway of all the Learned both in the Orient and Occident Church so audacious is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the passing-measure-loue of contention who regardeth not to tread on the Veritie prouiding she may seeme to haue the Victorie Dij talem terris auertite pestem From the which pestilent Monster the Lord deliuer his Church Amen CHAP. IIII. Whether it may stand with Charitie towards our Brethren to Kneele at the receiuing of the Sacrament SECT 1. That Kneeling serueth for Edification THE last thing that wee haue to try is whether the gesture of Kneeling in receiuing the Sacrament bee according to charitie that is whether it may tend to Edification or at least may be vsed without offence and scandall in our Church As for the first The chiefe things whereof the Church should be informed at the receiuing of the Sacrament are the spirituall benefits that are mystically shadowed in the symbolicall Elements as Christ the Giuer his Body and his Bloud the Gift the spirituall appetite wherewith wee should come faith the hand wherewith we should receiue the nature of the action it selfe a mysticall representation and a reall application of Christs propitiatory Sacrifice for vs and an Oblation againe made by vs of an Eucharisticall Sacrifice for him and the end of the action our saluation and the glory of our Sauiour These things being the chiefe points wherein the Communicants should bee edified What gesture for their edification can bee chosen and vsed more conuenient then Kneeling A Gesture declaring what reuerence is due to the Giuer and the Gift A Gesture agreeable to the spirituall appetite and desire wherewith the poore and hungry should come to this Table proper to the humilitie that in this action our faith should produce when it learneth vs to renounce our selues and rest on Christ and very decent to be vsed by the Saints when either they receiue benefits from Gods hands or giue backe thankes to him therefore SECT 2. That Kneeling obscureth not our fellowship with Christ and amongst our selues AGainst this if it be obiected that although in the respects aboue specified it may serue for edification yet it obscureth the fellowship and communion that wee haue with Christ and amongst our selues that is signified and sealed vp in this Sacrament and is most cleerely expressed by Sitting at Table It is answered As for our fellowship amongst our selues if at the Table an vniforme gesture bee obserued by all the Communicants whether it be Standing or Lying or Sitting or Kneeling if it be the same and vniforme I say it is sufficient to expresse our Societie at least it obscureth it not For there is as well a fellowship amongst the Saints in Kneeling as in Sitting or Standing As for our fellowship and communion with Christ wherein our honour in deed and Christian prerogatiues consist if wee imagine that to bee represented by our Sitting at Table with our Sauiour How was it expressed when the Communicants stood at the Table except yee thinke that Christ stood with them for if hee sate and they stood they were not vsed as his Coheires Equals as some affirme wee should bee but there was a disparitie as great as is betwixt the Lord that sitteth and the seruant that standeth And if our Sauiour the Lord Iesus be neither locally nor corporally with vs at Table now as was before cleered if hee be neither there Standing nor Sitting nor Lying as hee was with his Disciples How can our Sitting at Table import our fellowship with him more then Kneeling or any other gesture If it be said that the Pastor representeth him in the action and that our Sitting with the Pastor sheweth our fellowship with Christ It is answered that Christ had two conditions of estate The forme of a seruant and the authoritie and power of a Lord Yee call me Lord and Master saith hee and I am so yet I am as a seruant in the midst of you the one in open view hee did carry the other hee had but hid in the forme of a seruant By his power and authoritie as Lord hee did institute this Sacrament and was and is Lord and Master of the Feast and the spirituall Giuer of the internall and inuisible Grace In the forme of a seruant hee lay with his Disciples and they with him at Table and hee was Minister of the externall element This person our Sauiour hath laid downe and sustaineth onely that of Lord and Master had while hee was on earth but manifest in heauen which neither man nor Angell carrieth but himselfe at the right hand of the Father With that other of a Seruant and Minister the Pastor is cloathed wherein hee standeth and serueth in the Congregation and sitteth not as Lord and Master of the Feast Our Sitting therefore with him or Standing at the Table cannot declare our prerogatiue and honourable fellowship that we haue with the Lord and Master of the Feast our Sauiour Christ Iesus whom to esteeme now as a seruant either in this or any other Religious action and vs as his fellowes let bee his equals which is blasphemy is pride in vs and contempt of him Hee is our Lord and God as Thomas said and him wee must adore as the Apostles did euer after his Ascension SECT 3. That by eating and drinking our fellowship with Christ is sufficiently expressed without the Table-gesture of Sitting THE true fellowship vnion and communion that wee haue with our Sauiour and amongst our selues is in this Sacrament both wrought and represented not by Sitting nor Lying nor Standing nor Kneeling but by a farre more significant and effectuall meane not drawne from a controuerted example of Christs Table-gesture but set downe in the expresse words of the Institution and interpreted by Paul 1. Cor. chap. 10. in these words following The bread which wee breake not the Table whereat wee sit is it not the communion of the Bodie of Christ The Cup of blessing which wee blesse not our Sitting or Standing is it not the communion of the Bloud of Christ Here the Bread and the Cup deliuered and receiued and not the Table nor the Sitting thereat are the Signes and Seales of our Communion and Fellowship with Christ yea a signe that declareth a far more strict coniunction with Christ then either Lying or Sitting or any other Table-gesture to wit such a coniunction and vnion as is betwixt the bodie and the food wherewith it is nourished which is not onely locall but reall For as our corporall nourishment is turned into the substance of our bodies naturally so are we conuerted and