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A19338 Corderius dialogues translated grammatically For the more speedy attaining to the knowledge of the Latine tongue, for writing and speaking Latine. Done chiefly for the good of schooles, to be used according to the direction set downe in the booke called Ludus literarius, or The grammar-schoole.; Colloquia scholastica. English Cordier, Mathurin, 1479-1564.; Brinsley, John, fl. 1581-1624. 1636 (1636) STC 5764.2; ESTC S108692 238,706 321

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been done openly in the dining chamber but not privily in the bedchamber Also that wil aggravate the cause that they have led away thee being a tabler within as it were to surfeting which indeed is most odious to the master yet thy cause is far the worst B Therfore my good Florence tell me what shall I doe F Go to let us bethinke our selves of some devices wherby thou if it be possible maist be acquit B There is nothing that thou canst expect of me in that kinde for neither am I fit to give counsell nor have any meanes of remedy But thou I pray thee shew all thy wit to helpe me quickly I am in feare that my punishment is at hand thou seest sufficiently that unlesse somthing hinder it will be exacted after supper F That will not be in any wise for sith the crime is not publike the punishment shall not be publike B Whether it shall be publikely or privatly it will not be deferred F Thou judgest aright B That is the cause wherefore I have fled now to thee for succour if so be that thou forsake me I am utterly undone I shall abide most grievous punishment F Thou wast to flie rather to God without whom no counsell doth prevaile from whom also all helpe is both to be sought hoped for B The matter is very manyfest and I omitted not the duty of prayer before I came to thee but nevertheles that our most mercifull father will have us to use those helps which he himselfe doth offer unto us give as it were into our hand wherefore I pray thee according to our most faithfull friendship that thou helpe me now by thy counsell Here is no place of delaying or of lingring therefore bend thy forces hither undertake this cause I pray thee F Sith that thou art so instant that thou seemest after a sort to inforce me I will speake from my heart and truly what I think Knowest thou our masters nature B I know it as I thinke in some part F Thou then remembrest that there is none more milde then he to them especially whom he seeth to be submisse and to confesse their fact ingenuously but he will scarcely pardon any thing to proud and stubborn boyes B I my selfe have observed these things not once F Therefore doest thou know what to doe B I pray thee tell me F Whilest all is as yet well I advise thee to go alone to the man into his study and have speech to this purpose Loe most curteous master I have offended grievosly I confesse but as you know it is the first fault that I have committed for I never did any thing before which might seeme worthy stripes Wherefore most gentle master you shall pardon this first fault if it please you for my former innocency If so be that I shall fall backe ever hereafter I will alledge no excuse but will bee beaten most severely Thou shalt over-intreat him as I hope by this or the like speech B O wise and fit counsell F Use it if it seeme good unto thee Surely it is such as I would have given to me in such a like evill B But one thing remaineth concerning which I am carefull F Hoe what remaineth B I can not speake so briefly and fitly in the presence of my master as thou hast spoken now F Thou shouldest not be so carefull concerning my words so that thou knowest my meaning B I know it in a manner F It is well write it now in a plain manner as thou canst and then we will conferre together afterwards thou shalt learn it without book diligently to a word B There is nothing neither more safe nor more certaine then this but what time doest thou thinke that he may be gone unto fitly F As soone as thou shalt see him after dinner to goe into the library for if peradventure he shall go alone as he is wont to walke in the orchard then follow him straightway B What preface shall I use then F There is no need of any other then which all of us are wont to use with him B What is that F Master may I speake a word or two unto you B God prosper well all thy counsell now I goe to write that which thou hast said and then I will see thee againe F Make haste for dinner time is at hand The 27. Dialogue Ambrose Gratian. GRatian thou seemest to me somwhat sad what is the matter G I thinke day night of my father being absent and I am spent with grief in the meane time for that cause A How long hath he been away G. Now foure moneths A Hath he written nothing to you in the meane time G We have not heard indeed a word since he departed A It may be that he hath written but his letters either have been lost or they have been intercepted G That which thou sayest is like to be true for before he was wont to write unto us whersoever he was A Went he not to Paris this summer G Surely he then went forward with that purpose A I trust that he is safe G I also do not distrust but my griefe is not eased thereby A What saith thy mother G She doth mourn almost continually thereupon it commeth to passe that my griefe is doubled A. But neverthelesse thou oughtest not to torment thy selfe so very much for it behoveth rather to hope well of him then to torment thy selfe so for what are foure moneths How many are there of them who are away frō home so many yeares being tossed in the meane time by divers chances by so many dangers But what do the chances and perils of other men comfort me A Neverthelesse see that thou be not over nice who canst not forbeare the desire of thy father so little a time G I indeede could take it patiently so that I could understand at least that he is well A Who can doe amisse who hath placed all his hope in God for whether we live or whether we die we are alwaies the Lords as S. Paul saith G I doubt nothing but that is most true but such is the infirmitie of this flesh A Therefore what should he
Pl docuimus we have taught docuis●● yee have taught docuerunt vel docuere the● have taught S. Otherwise in english I hav● taught thou hast taught hee hath taught we have taught ye have taught they have taught T. Preterpluperfect tense S. Docuir●m I had taught docueras thou hadst taught c. So they goe on as it pleaseth The end of the first Booke THE SECOND BOOKE of Scholasticall Dialogues The 1. Dialogue Cornelius Martial WHat dost thou reade M. Letters C. From whence M. From my father C. When receivedst thou them M. Yesterday ●t evening C. Who brought them M. ● know not C. Doest thou not know who gave them thee M. A certaine girle from the Innekeeper C. From ●hence are they dated M. From Paris ● beleeve C. What day M. I could not ●ooke into them as yet C. Verely I inter●upted thee M. It skilleth little I am not 〈◊〉 busied C. Go to reade over thy epi●●le I will study in the meane time M. I also will doe the same thing by and by The 2. Dialogue Musicus Aerardus IN what state are your Lions matters H. I know not wee heare nothing now of late M. hath thy brother written nothing H. Hee hath sent no letters this two moneths that my father hath seene M. Peradventure he is sicke H. No truly for the carriers doe often bring us commendations from him M. I am glad to heare that he is well I love him dearely because he was my most sweet schoolefellow H. He as my opinion is loves thee again M. Verely I have no doubt of that but the houre calleth us let us goe into the auditory H. Let us make hast now the catalogue is recited The 3. Dialogue The M●nitour Briscantelli OH yee boyes give over to prattle your master being absent words by which that chiefe father is offended intreat yee rather concerning your studies and honest matters Learne to speake fit speeches and fit words Learne also to roule over often among your selves things to be repeated for the teacher cannot bee present alwayes with the children Learne to follow the sure steps of good men I pray God yee take heed that flattering idlenesse deceive you not Behold I admonish you before let it not delight you to abuse the time le●t sore stripes light upon your backe Behold againe I the monitour doe tell you before If any one shall bee beaten let him not lay the blame to me B. Cease to speake any more no man refuseth to obey That ●est father is a monitour to us And the sonne of that father whose name is Iesus And the spirit which renewing us doth nourish us within Ob. Whom could I have hoped so ready to answer me What boy doth send angellick sounds from his mouth Oh thou most learned of our forme whom may I call thee For a divine verse doth flow * from thy mouth I am not so happy that I can poure out verses ex tempore But I had premeditated those things which I spake even now B. If thou hadst premeditated them how doest thou poure so plainely Castalian streames what new fury is this Ob. For thy verses have moved me with so great affections That now I thinke I could move the wilde beasts B. But why doest thou extoll me being unworthy with so great praises The chiefest glory is to be given to one God alone And I would to God eloquence and leisure might be granted to vs. And that he would unloose our mouths into his praise But because the time is present that wee pray with voice and with minde And the Doctor doth command it I cease o speake any more The 48. Dialogue The Monitour The Boy What dost thou P. I write O. What thou write P. Sentences O. What sentences P. Out of the new Testament O. Thou doest well from whence hast thou had them P. The under master dictated them to us O. When P. Yesterday O. At what a clocke P. At noone O. Where P. In the court O. Who were present X. All our houshold scholars besides the first and the second O. Where were they P. In the common hall O. What did they P. They did dispute O. Farewell and goe out to write The 5. Dialogue Monitour Boyes prating OH yee boyes what doe yee here You seeme to mee to prate and to trifle A certaine boy Thou art far deceived for wee repeat together O. Concerning what matter P. Of the lame verbs that which is to bee repeated at three of the clocke O. Yee doe well P. Wilt thou heare our talke O. Yea goe yee on I am about a greater worke I will lay snares for Pies and Iack-dawes P. Thou shalt finde many in the court at the sunne O. There is a prey prepared for my net The 6. Dialogue The Monitour Boyes pra●ing A Ha! behold now you are catched doe yee not confesse it A certain● boy Certainly we confesse it ingenuously but wee did not speake evill words I pray thee my Nicholas that thou wilt not note us Ob. What did you prattle I heard I know not what concerning a breakfast P. That is it we speake concerning our morning breakfas● because our servant had not given it us in time Ob. I doe thinke that that was it neither indeed is it any any very great evill but for that they are idle words P. But we did speak in Latine Ob I heard it but it was not a place of talking For as you know this very little time after drinking ought to be very precious unto you sith it is dedicated to study to wit that every one prepare himselfe diligently to repeat those things to the masters which they have prescribed doe I not say the truth P. Cert●inely thou saist the truth wee should have read together out of the Testamēt what things we should repeat by and by but I pray thee pardon me ô most sweete Nicholas hereafter wee will be more wise and we will doe our duty diligently Ob. If ye shall doe so our master will love you as his little sweet-hearts doe you not see how hee loveth good children and studious neither doth hee onely love them but also praise them and reward them P. We know these things we prove them by experience daily Ob. Therefore remember ye and fulfill your promises P. Wilt thou then conceale th●s fact Ob. I will conceale it but of that condition that
trifle why doest thou reprehend mee undeservedly M. I reprove thee justly B. By what right M. Because thou art not ignorant that this word ridere to laugh is usuall for irridere to mocke and neverthelesse thou takest it so as if I spake of laughing B. If I defend my cause what evill doe I M. Doest thou then goe on to bee stubborne Indeed thou shalt be noted in earnest B. My Martine I pray thee be not angry at me M. I am not angry but I doe my dutie B. But heare I pray thee M. What shall I heare thy trifles B. Heare I say I will not lye M. speake briefly I have businesse elsewhere B. First of all when thou admonishedst me I was not idle M. What then if thou didst nothing wast thou not idle B. I was not if I may speake by your leave M. How can that be B. I will tell thee although thou thy selfe understandest this better than I I did nothing as it did appeare but notwithstanding I did thinke of some good M. Declare that unto mee B. When thou makest verses thou doest meditate long ofttimes as if thou wert idle although thou art never lesse idle M. Thou art over wittie for thy age although thou wast not idle to thy selfe as thou sayest neverthelesse they who saw thee can judge otherwise B. But I was alone M. True but some might have come in the meane time To conclude thou doest not confesse thy fault B If there was any fault it was in that because I seemed to thee at the first sight to bee idle when I was not indeed M. I am satisfied for that but what doest thou answer concerning thy mocking B Certainly I said nothing with a purpose to mocke M. With what purpose then B. Beleeve me I did jest M. To what end B. That I might learne something by talking a little M. I am not he by whom thou canst be taught many things B. Yea I have learned oft times much good of thee M. What wilt thou conclude at length B. That thou pardon me when as thou seest I have not any thing offended with an evill minde that in truth I know M. Goe to I pardon thee because thou seemest to me to be sincere and plaine neither have I knowne thee as yet to bee a lyer B. O most sweet Martine I give thee thanks The 64. Dialogue N. O. DOst thou then go into the country O. I am compelled to go to wit being sent for of my father N. Wilt thou never returne O No I hope N. When art thou to go O. To morrow as I thinke N. Dost thou then leave me so O. It is necessary so N. wretch that I am where and when shall I finde such a friend such a companion in my studies O. Doe not grieve bee of good cheare God will give thee a better companion N. Truly hee can I know but I can scarcely hope for it O. I pray thee doe not afflict thy selfe so much for our friendship shall not die by this separation of our bodies but rather it shall grow more and being absent in bodie we shall be present in minde what the Epistles which wee shall send to and fro how great force doest thou hope that they will have what that by that mutuall longing our love shall be made more pleasant N. All things which thou sayest are very likely but in the meane time my griefe is not asswaged O. Ah represse thy teares N. I cannot for griefe O. Dost thou even so dost thou thinke that I am touched with lesse griefe but what meanest thou wee must obey the will of God Now I pray thee recover thy selfe and rather prepare thy selfe to sup merrily we will talke together more fully after supper N. O what a heavy parting is this The 65. Dialogue Messor Valens REmembrest thou not that our master is wont to admonish us so often of flying lewd companions V. Truly I remember it well M. Notwithstanding thou usest his admonitions otherwhile negligently enough V. Wherein doe I seeme to thee to neglect them M. I will tell thee so that thou heare attentively V. Speak I pray thee I will heare most attentively M. Wilt thou never take heed to thy selfe of that impostor V. Why should I take heed M. Lest thou be corrupted by his contagion for thou hast knowne him to be a very lewd fellow V. But I doe not follow him of mine owne accord he commeth to me every where M. Verily because he knoweth that thou hast something to give him and that thou art wont to give him willingly and often V. What then doest thou perswade me to doe M. Say once and in good earnest and as it were with an angry minde O friend what wilt thou why doest thou follow me every where all doe cry out that thou art a very naughty boy and for that they will not be thy companions O therefore let me alone hereafter I pray thee lest I be beaten openly with rods for thy sake V. What if hee will answer any thing against it M. Break off his speech and get thy selfe away speedily V. I give thee thanks that thou hast admonished me so faithfully The 66. Dialogue G. H. WIlt thou remain in this ignorance H. God forbid G. What wilt thou do then H. I pray thee give me counsell concerning this matter G. First of all pray to God most often and from thy heart and then be alwayes attentive that is to say heare diligently whatsoever is taught whether thy Master speake or whether thy schoole-fellowes repeat any thing last of all nourish love carefully H. By what meanes G. Neither hurt any man neither offend any envy no man I hate no man but contrarily love all as brethren and doe well to all as much as thou canst H. What shall these things further me to the profit of my studies G. Very much H. How G. For so God will inlighten thy wit increase thy memorie and the other gifts of thy mind to conclude hee will so promote thy studies that thou mayest make daily greater progresses therein H. Truly thou dost give me very excellent counsell I wish that I may bee able to use it perpetually to the glorie of God himselfe and at length to requite
neither be kept under nor contained in their duties for every one would live after his owne fashion each would live according to his owne pleasure C Moreover I marvell with my selfe very often so great reverence to be thorow all the schoole so great silence and to conclude so great modesty Q Thou wouldest marvell much more if thou hadst ever seen the countrey schoole C I have seene them sometime and considered them diligently There is more silence in our schoole of six hundreth then of forty boyes yea of thirtie in these triviall schooles But goe on I pray thee I am afraid that thou art an Asian oratour for now thy speech beginneth as it were to rove further off from the marke Q Yea even thou thy selfe interruptest me C I have said nothing from the purpose but now prosecute the rest ● Q Wilt thou that I tell thee summarily This domesticall discipline although it may seeme odious to a few wicked ones yet it doth very greatly please the good and studious for the commodity of it for if the government were dissolute what could we have safe against the assaults of wanton and saucy boies what rest could we have what quietnes of our studies could there be Therefore the discipline it selfe is a refuge to the sound lovers of learning and as it were a fortresse no otherwise then a haven to marriners in a tempest To conclude whosoever is peaceable amongst us and prepared alwayes to doe well is most safe from the discipline Neither indeed doth our Master that that he may draw us by blowes and by stripes unto the study of learning but he doth indeavour to draw us on by these things especially by honest and good usage by good will humanitie mildnesse of behaviour by benefits to conclude by the love of vertue and of learning wherupon it comes to passe that the greater part of us is so affected that wee study to obey him from the heart bewareth to offend him loveth observeth and reverenceth him as a father C Otherwise you should not performe the dutie of scholars Q But there are sundry knaves worthy to be beatē who neither feare God nor stripes who also hate the studies of learning worse then a dog a snake that I may use the words of Horace severe discipline is used sometime I say to such to wit because necessity doth compell C I have enough for now I see to what end the severity of your schoole discipline doth tend Q Verely that it may defend good manners and that it may correct or expell the evill C Truely I do admire this discipline it is so far off that I should feare it And my Quercetane I indeed doe love thee for this liberty of speech whereby thou hast set me on more cheerefully Q. I also doe give immortall thankes to our heavenly father who hath given thee a good mind and a sincere judgement C Therefore farewell and expect me if the Lord shall permit against the next week farewell againe and commend our enterprise to Christ in thy prayers very earnestly Q God send thee a quiet night and pleasant sleepe The 26. Dialogue Florence Basil. WHat is the matter that I see thee so sad B Wretch that I am I am scarse mine own man I am smitten with fear F I say what is the matter B Our master taught us F In what in theft B. Ah no God forbid F In what then B In secret drinking together T A hainous fact B Hoe wretch wretch that I am what shall I do F Ah thou mayest not so greatly disquiet thy selfe who were present with thee B Fluvian and Florensis O ungratious boyes which drew me thither F Where was it done B In Fluvians chamber that I would to God he had not risen out of the bed to day F. How I pray you were ye catched was not your chamber locked B Yea it was but as thou knowest our Master keyes of all the chambers moreover we thought that he had gone to this dayes meeting of the brethrē otherwise we had bolted the doore F Howsoever the matter is it hath fallen out by the will of God B I am so fully perswaded but we are wont thus for the most part to attribute all our matters whether good or evill either to our wisdom or folly F Upon what occasion had you begun this junketing B Those two as thou knowst well are not dayly companions at the table F What then B Junkets I wot not what were brought them from home for their diet which I would to God that they had been lost by the way F But God would not so go on B And because I teach them sometimes at my leisure yesterday after supper they had invited mee to these junkets against this daies breakfast F An unhappy breakfast to thee but what was there no wine B Yea there was wine more then enough for they have rundlets of wine in our masters cellar F What did your master when he saw you feasting thus did he not wax exceeding angry B He was moved nothing at all but smiling a little I will quoth he be of this junketing if it please you F O troublesome guest what did yee B Wee all being astonished were speechlesse for having spoken that he conveied himself away forthwith F I see all signes here to be exceeding bad B Who can judge otherwise F It is very like that our master smelled out the matter some other way B There is a certain one whome I suspect who had told of us F Whom doest thou suspect I will tell thee after the end of the matter F What remedy will you ●inde for this evill B I know not we are all greatly amazed although those two my companions in banquetting do seeme to be nothing carefull for they have an excuse in readinesse F What pray thee can they alledge B They will say we went to break our fast because in the morning whē the rest did break their fast we were with our parents who had brought vs victuals yesterday F Indeed that is something yet they shall not escape punishments so B Why not F Because that ought to have