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A16795 The reasons vvhich Doctour Hill hath brought, for the vpholding of papistry, which is falselie termed the Catholike religion: vnmasked and shewed to be very weake, and vpon examination most insufficient for that purpose: by George Abbot ... The first part. Abbot, George, 1562-1633. 1604 (1604) STC 37; ESTC S100516 387,944 452

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that they alone can so oft see the Devill And they alone can haue the Devils in them which finde worke for the exorcists He is simple that seeth not that this was a devise to driue men frō the participation of the Lords supper A third he hath that a great many Cōmunion bookes lying in a sicke mans chamber were caught vp by a fire which seemed to haue many hands so were throwne into a flame He who wil so lightly bestow so much of his beleife as to credit this may demurre vpō this actiō whither it were not the Devils owne deed who cānot away with the Communion booke therfore burneth it not because it is bad but because it is against him so have his disciples dōe And the like may be expoūded of the black doge before not enduring that the people shold participate of those holy misteries It might also be asked what so many Cōmuniō books did in one Chāber Notwithstāding we rather hold al these things to be humane fictions or if they were done to be diabolical illusions 6 BVT heere to come neerer the state of this wise Reason It is most true that there was a time when visions dreames Prophecies were of good force God vsing to do by his children as Iob speaketh that is talketh to thē in s Iob. 33. 15. dreams visiōs of the night whē sleepe falleth vpō thē they sleepe vpō their beds So s G●… 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Abimilech was warned in a dreame to abstaine frō Sara t Cap 28 ●…2 lacob had his dreame of the ladder u 1 Reg 3. 5 Salomō was willed in a dreame to aske what he wold And of this sort we find very many other which advertised mē of the Lords special wil in many particulars In like māner there is warrāt for diverse visiōs as whē God cōforted 〈◊〉 Iacob in a Visiō when he appeered to 〈◊〉 Gen. 46 3 x 1 Sam 3●… 1 Samuel professing what iudgmēt he would bring vpō the house of ●…li So in the new Testamēt y Act 1 3 Cornelius z Cap. 9. 121 Ananias had their visiōs And for Prophecying Moses all other who were so inspired frō the Lord do sufficiētly speake And yet even in those daies we find that it was not safe to trust al things which came in the n●…me of prophecyings visions dreames For there were false Prophets as is plaine by a 1. Reg 22 11. Zidkiah many more And Ieremy schooleth the people b Ier. 27. 9 Heare not your Prophets nor your so●…thsayers nor your dreamers who say vnto you thus Yee shall not serve the King of Babel for they prophecy a lie vnto you And in another place he saith of other c Cap ●…3 10. ●…5 They speake the visiō of their own hart not out of the mouth of the Lord. And afterward God saith I have heard what the Prophets said that prophecy lies in my name saying I have dreamed I haue dreamed This is thē a dāgerous thing for credulous people to be deceived by vnlesse they chāge their iudgmēt bee very wary God therefore addeth farther d Vers. 28. The Prophet that hath a dreame let him tell a dreame he that hath my word let him speake my word faithfully It is then Gods word faithfully looked into which must be the directiō to the speaker the hearer Else how soone might mē be deceived That e 1 Reg. 13. 9 18. Prophet of the Lord may veryfie this who himselfe was quickly beguiled through credulity at the instance of another Prophet f Nehem. 6● 10. perswading him directly against Gods wil revealed vnto him Notwithstāding Nehemiah being wiser whē he might haue bin so catched by Shemiah pretēding a revelation did not harken vnto him but looked to that duty which was cōmaūded him And that was it wherin mens spirit of discretiō did cōsist in those daies to look whether they furthered the Lords service or no when they spake whether other approved circumstances did concurre for in other general matters the good the bad might externally seeme to ioine The place of g Deuter. 13. 1 Deuteronomy is in this behalfe worth the cōsidering where it is saide that a Prophet may come or a dreamer of dreames and may give a signe or a wonder that also may come to passe yet he may be a deceaver drawing to false Gods and is not to be followed Then evē in those times visions dreames prophecyings taken in themselves were but tickle things to rest on neither had they any sure groūd but from the word by which they were to be tried That without them was forcible they disagreeing from it were nothing 7 But now since that Christ is come we are taught in no sort to depēd vpō thē for the doctrin is general cōcerning al things h Hebr. 1. 1● At sundry times in diverse māners God spake in the old time to our fathers by the Prophets In these last daies he hath spoken vnto vs by his sonne which Antithesis doth intend that miracles al means saving the word of Christ are now cut off frō resting our vndoubted faith thervpō But in special touching visiōs miracles whē the i Luc. 16 29. Rich mā is brought in as desiring that Lazarus might strāgly be sent or appeere as a ghost or in some vision to warne his brethren our Saviour frameth Abrahams answer They haue Moses and the Prophets let them heare them as holding that alone to be sufficient and cutting of all other points from being matters of certainety where-on to rest our faith and soules And yet as it was said of Miracles before we deny not but that after the ascēsion of Christ the death of the Apostles some seldom times visions might be shewed to some of the elect for their privat instructiō satisfactiō or comfort as k Eus. Eccl. Histor 4. 14 Polycarpus did dreame that he shold be burnt for Christ l Lib. 5 27 Natalius by stripes givē him or seeming to be givē him by Angels was revoked frō heresy to an Orthodoxe opiniō so was m Hier epist 22 ad Eust Hierom frō overmuch studying Tully humane learning n Theo 516 Theodosius did dream that he should be Emperour Where obserue we two things first that these visions were touching privat mens ma●…ere not to teach much lesse to broch any new or vncertain doctrine to the Church for which purpose our Papists do vrge their visions especially to establish Purgatory the appurtenances therevnto Secondly that albeit in some few God did this yet it was not laid downe as a fundamētal matter that there should alwaies in the Church be such persons neither might any mā presume to say that continually there should be such a vocatiō●… neither could any person by an assured faith