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A14366 A moste necessary treatise of free wil not onlye against the Bapistes, but also against the Anabaptistes, which in these our daies, go about to renue the detestable heresies of Pelagius, and of the Luciferians, whiche say and affirm, that we be able by our own natural strength to fulfil the law and commaundementes of God. Made dialoge wyse by Iohn Veron, in a manner word by woorde, as he did set it forth in his lectures at Paules. VĂ©ron, John, d. 1563. 1561 (1561) STC 24684; ESTC S101311 58,715 178

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oughte to be kepte and wyth suche a perfection as God dothe requyre syth that he is a transgressour of it afore he come in to thys worlde and a synner from his conception dothe not Dauyd wryte thus My mother hath conceaned me in synne Psal ii I saye vnto you that excepte manne be conceaued of the holye ghoste he shall neuer be able to kepe the whole lawe of God as he doth wyl and requyre ALBION Nowe truly I do perceaue in deede that it is a greate blasphemye agaynst Christ to saye that man is able to fulfyll the hole lawe of God of hys owne selfe and by his owne strengthe and to do it with such a perfection as god doothe requyre For that were to say that man is conceyued of the holye ghost But I pray you now tell me Question whether God be vnryghteous or not in commaundynge man to do that thing whiche he is not able to do and fulfil PHILALETHES Aunswer What error or blasphemy were it to saye so I aske you Similitude if a man wer bound vnto you in a hundreth pounde and dyd owe you them in dede though the same manne were not able to pai you shuld ye do vniustly to ask him your C. pounde ALBION No manne I trowe would say that I did him wronge in asking him my duety PHILALETHES When the kyng did aske of his seruaunte the ten thousand talentes Mat. xviii that he dyd owe vnto him did he vniustlye or wrongfullye ALBION I wyl not say so PHILALE Know ye then that all the hole law of God is nothing els but a commaundement wherby we are commaunded and biddē to pay that vnto god that we owe vnto hym For man is bounde of duetye to loue God wyth all hys hart wyth all hys soule and with all his strength and his neighbor as hys owne self Therefore Sainte Paule saythe Ro. viii brethren we are debtours but not vnto the flesh Shall we saye then that God is vnryghteous or that he doth vniustly asking that thing of vs that we do owe vnto hym of bound duety It is so farre of that he should do vniustly in askynge vs of his duety Why god dothe demaunde of vs his dutye that rather he doth most iustly godly and ryghteously to demaund such thynges of vs for the causes that I wyll now rehearse and aledge Fyrste and foremoste he doth it for to declare vnto men hys ryghteousnesse holynesse and bountuousnesse For in this that God doth commaund vs nothing in his lawe but that whych is iuste and good he dothe declare therby that he him self is righteous holye and good Secondly least men shoulde seke and go aboute to excuse them selues by ignoraunce before the iudgemente seate of God sayinge that they knewe not hys wyll and pleasure therfore dyd he setforthe hys law and commaundementes for to declare vnto men what he wyll haue them to do and what he wyll haue them to leaue vndone For we are such that we wold styll plaid ignoraunce before God except we were conuicted by hys playne and manifest lawe and expresse commaundementes that he hathe lefte vnto vs. Thirdlye the law was geuen because of transgression gala iii. to the intent that they that wold not for the fear of God and loue of heauenly thynges refraine from doinge of euill should at least for fear of the punyshment of the lawe be dryuen to keepe a good order and to lyue quietlye among them selues Els they wold haue kylled one an other no man hadde bene able to haue kepte hys owne but all should haue gone to hauock Forthly God did setforth his law that by it man shoulde be brought into the knowledge of his owne self That is to say The law is a mirrour or lookinge glasse the law was geuen and setforthe to thys end that it might be a lokinge glasse or mirrour wherein man shoulde behold hys owne weakenesse imbecilitye and vnablenesse to fulfil and perfourme the thynges that God dothe require of him that so he may haue an occasiō to humble and submit hym self For if it were not for the law that doothe dyscouer open and shewe yea and set before our eies our owne filthynesse abhomination we wold neuer acknowledge oure selues to bee sinners nor yet thyncke that we haue nead of the grace and mercy of God God therfore least men should swel against hym dothe demaunde and ask the same of them that they owe vnto him of duety As if he shoulde saye by his law O man thou seest howe muche bound thou art vnto me Marke this diligentely and how that thou art not able to paye the tenth part of that which thou dost owe vnto me therfore submit thy selfe and acknowledge thine own imbecillity and weakenesse and so flye vnto my mercy whyche is alwaies prepared for them that beinge of no reputation wyth them selues do hang al together of me And here may be gathered the fift cause Gala. iii. whye the lawe was geuen which is that it myghte serue vs for a schole mayster for to brynge vs vnto Christe Rom. x. who is the end or perfourming of the law for to iustify al them that do beleue For when we haue once learned by the Doctryne of the lawe that of oure selues wee bee not able to escape the dāpnation that we do deserue by the breakyng of the commaundementes of God then are we fayne to put awaye all vayne confydence and truste that we had in our own strength and in our owne merytes and to flye vnto Christe who was made accursed for vs that is to say was punyshed and slayne moste oppropryouslye for oure sakes that wee myght be delyuered from the curse of the law and so receyue the blessynge of Abraham and the promyse of the spirit through faithe EVTRAPE I perceaue that god doth by his lawe Similitude as a good scholemaster is wonte to doe when he hath a scholer that for a lytle learning that he hathe thincketh hym self to know as much as hys master doth And therfore doth swell against his master and beginneth to despise him Nowe when the master seeth that he geueth vnto the same scholer som difficult and hard lesson wherin he vnderstandeth nothing or wherein he is as blinde as a beatell and thys dothe he that the scholer maye acknowledge the ignoraunce that is hydden in him vnder such vain arrogancy and pryde Euen so is it of man For excepte God shoulde geue hym Commaundementes whyche he is not hable to fulfyll he would compte hym selfe as holye and as perfecte as God is yea he woulde saye playnelye that he hadde no neade of God nor of hys healpe But God for to stop all mennes mouthes he geueth them a lesson wherein they be as blinde as beatles that so they maye be dryuen to knowe them selues and to acknowledge theyr owne infirmity and weakenesse PHILALETHES Saint Augustine speaketh of thys matter very godly saying ad hilarirp●s●o lxxxix