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A80608 The bloudy tenent, washed, and made white in the bloud of the Lambe: being discussed and discharged of bloud-guiltinesse by just defence. Wherein the great questions of this present time are handled, viz. how farre liberty of conscience ought to be given to those that truly feare God? And how farre restrained to turbulent and pestilent persons, that not onely raze the foundation of godlinesse, but disturb the civill peace where they live? Also how farre the magistrate may proceed in the duties of the first table? And that all magistrates ought to study the word and will of God, that they may frame their government according to it. Discussed. As they are alledged from divers Scriptures, out of the Old and New Testament. Wherein also the practise of princes is debated, together with the judgement of ancient and late writers of most precious esteeme. Whereunto is added a reply to Mr. Williams answer, to Mr. Cottons letter. / By John Cotton Batchelor in Divinity, and teacher of the church of Christ at Boston in New England. Cotton, John, 1584-1652. 1647 (1647) Wing C6409; Thomason E387_7; ESTC R836 257,083 342

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that_o they_o be_v even_o choke_v with_o the_o care_n and_o business_n of_o this_o world_n and_o yet_o be_v not_o behind_o in_o liberal_a contribution_n to_o pious_a use_n chap._n 26._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o chap._n 26._o touch_v the_o danger_n of_o let_v alone_a anti_n christian_n discusser_n if_o any_o imagine_v that_o the_o antichristian_o be_v let_v alone_o may_v do_v a_o world_n of_o mischief_n before_o the_o world_n end_n by_o the_o infection_n of_o other_o i_o answer_v 1._o the_o civil_a state_n keep_v itself_o with_o a_o civil_a sword_n let_v civil_a offence_n be_v punish_v and_o yet_o let_v their_o worship_n and_o conscience_n be_v tolerate_v 2._o the_o church_n have_v a_o thousand_o buckler_n and_o weapon_n able_a to_o break_v down_o the_o strong_a hold_n two_o cor._n 10._o and_o so_o to_o defend_v itself_o against_o the_o gate_n of_o earth_n or_o hell_n 3._o the_o lord_n know_v who_o be_v he_o his_o choose_a can_v final_o be_v deceive_v last_o the_o lord_n jesus_n himself_o 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ask_v whether_o or_o no_o such_o as_o may_v hold_v forth_o other_o worship_n or_o religion_n jew_n turk_n antichristian_o may_v not_o be_v peaceable_a and_o quiet_a subject_n love_v and_o helpful_a neighbour_n fair_a and_o just_a dealer_n etc._n etc._n it_o be_v clear_a they_o may_v in_o all_o experience_n and_o yet_o in_o spiritual_a and_o mystical_a account_n they_o be_v ravenous_a and_o greedy_a wolf_n defender_n it_o have_v be_v declare_v above_o that_o we_o do_v not_o hold_v it_o lawful_a to_o constrain_v by_o civil_a sword_n jew_n or_o turk_n or_o antichristian_o to_o be_v of_o our_o religion_n whether_o they_o be_v good_a subject_n love_a neighbour_n fair_a dealer_n yea_o or_o no._n nor_o do_v the_o apostle_n in_o that_o text_n which_o the_o discusser_n have_v in_o hand_n speak_v of_o man_n out_o of_o the_o church_n jew_n turk_n or_o antichristian_o but_o of_o such_o as_o enter_v into_o the_o church_n and_o be_v of_o themselves_o now_o if_o church-member_n shall_v apostate_n from_o christ_n and_o of_o christian_n become_v jew_n and_o turk_n and_o antichristian_o and_o draw_v away_o disciple_n after_o they_o i_o will_v demand_v of_o any_o man_n who_o conscience_n be_v not_o past_a feel_n of_o the_o danger_n of_o damnable_a heresy_n whether_o such_o member_n may_v go_v for_o peaceable_a and_o quiet_a subject_n for_o love_v and_o helpful_a neighbour_n for_o fair_a and_o just_a dealer_n for_o true_a and_o loyal_a to_o the_o civil_a government_n if_o those_o be_v peaceable_a and_o quiet_a subject_n that_o withdraw_v subject_n from_o subjection_n to_o christ_n if_o they_o be_v love_v and_o helpful_a neighbour_n that_o help_v man_n on_o to_o perdition_n if_o they_o be_v fair_a and_o just_a dealer_n that_o wind_v the_o soul_n of_o the_o best_a and_o kill_v and_o destroy_v the_o soul_n of_o many_o if_o such_o be_v true_a and_o loyal_a to_o civil_a government_n that_o subject_n it_o to_o the_o tyranny_n of_o a_o foreign_a prelate_n than_o it_o will_v be_v no_o 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verume_v for_o look_v the_o answer_n through_o and_o you_o shall_v find_v not_o one_o of_o these_o charge_n or_o exhortation_n give_v to_o minister_n be_v ever_o direct_v by_o the_o answerer_n to_o civil_a magistrate_n the_o falsehood_n of_o the_o discusser_n in_o this_o charge_n upon_o the_o answerer_n be_v palpable_a and_o notorious_a and_o this_o exhortation_n in_o this_o place_n the_o answerer_n do_v not_o so_o much_o as_o mention_v at_o all_o either_o as_o direct_v to_o magistrate_n or_o to_o elder_n discusser_n i_o desire_v it_o may_v be_v inquire_v into_o whether_o in_o all_o the_o will_n or_o testament_n of_o christ_n there_o be_v any_o such_o word_n of_o christ_n by_o way_n of_o command_n promise_v or_o example_n countenance_v the_o governor_n of_o the_o givill_a state_n to_o meddle_v with_o these_o wolf_n if_o in_o civil_a thing_n peaceable_a and_o obedient_a defender_n this_o condition_n if_o in_o civil_a thing_n peaceable_a and_o obedient_a impli_v a_o contradiction_n to_o the_o nature_n and_o practice_n of_o wolf_n how_o can_v wolf_n be_v peaceable_a and_o obedient_a unless_o they_o be_v restrain_v and_o how_o can_v they_o be_v restrain_v and_o not_o meddle_v with_o what_o peace_n say_v jehu_n so_o long_o as_o the_o whoredom_n of_o jezabel_n and_o her_o witchcraft_n be_v so_o many_o 2_o king_n 9.22_o yes_o may_v not_o spiritual_a whoredom_n and_o witchcraft_n stand_v with_o civil_a peace_n no_o very_o the_o whoredom_n and_o witchcraft_n of_o the_o jezabel_n of_o rome_n take_v away_o civil_a peace_n from_o the_o earth_n and_o bring_v in_o the_o turk_n to_o oppress_v the_o peace_n both_o of_o christian_a churce_n and_o commonwealth_n as_o have_v be_v show_v above_o revel_v 9.15.21_o that_o dreadful_a example_n of_o god_n vengeance_n upon_o civil_a state_n for_o tolerate_v and_o practise_v image-worship_n be_v a_o serious_a and_o loud_a warning_n to_o all_o christian_a state_n to_o beware_v of_o such_o seduce_a spirit_n as_o bear_v they_o in_o hand_n they_o shall_v have_v peace_n though_o they_o tolerate_v idolatrous_a and_o false_a worship_n in_o their_o territorye_n beside_o for_o another_o example_n and_o that_o approve_a you_o find_v in_o the_o lord_n testament_n revel_v 16.4_o 5_o 6_o 7._o of_o which_o before_o and_o for_o a_o word_n of_o command_n from_o christ_n to_o meddle_v with_o wolf_n that_o grand_a charter_n whereby_o magistrate_n be_v establish_v in_o the_o new_a testament_n may_v abundant_o suffice_v the_o magistrate_n be_v the_o minister_n of_o god_n a_o avenger_n to_o execute_v wrath_n upon_o he_o that_o do_v evil_a rom._n 14.4_o if_o the_o wolf_n be_v a_o evil_a doer_n let_v he_o look_v at_o the_o magistrate_n as_o appoint_v of_o god_n to_o be_v a_o avenger_n and_o executor_n of_o wrath_n upon_o he_o say_v not_o yea_o if_o the_o wolf_n be_v a_o evil_a doer_n against_o the_o second_o table_n but_o not_o so_o if_o against_o the_o first_o table_n or_o if_o a_o evil_a doer_n against_o the_o body_n and_o estate_n of_o 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discern_v the_o fundamental_a principel_v thereof_o and_o the_o evil_a of_o choose_v heresy_n and_o blasphemy_n as_o do_v subvert_v the_o same_o their_o ignorance_n thereof_o be_v no_o discharge_n of_o their_o duty_n before_o the_o lord_n such_o wolvish_a oppressor_n and_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n as_o they_o can_v discern_v with_o their_o own_o eye_n it_o will_v be_v their_o sin_n either_o to_o suppress_v they_o because_o they_o can_v do_v it_o of_o faith_n or_o to_o tolerate_v they_o because_o they_o be_v destructive_a to_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o people_n and_o enemy_n to_o the_o common_a salvation_n gallio_n be_v just_o censure_v as_o a_o profane_a man_n not_o because_o he_o refuse_v to_o be_v a_o judge_n in_o matter_n concern_v the_o jewish_a worship_n and_o religion_n for_o he_o have_v no_o law_n of_o caesar_n who_o deputy_n he_o be_v to_o judge_v of_o it_o but_o because_o he_o reject_v the_o cognizance_n of_o such_o cause_n of_o religion_n as_o a_o question_n of_o word_n and_o name_n which_o make_v he_o so_o ●ame_n regardless_o of_o cause_n of_o religion_n that_o though_o the_o civil_a peace_n be_v break_v by_o the_o jew_n in_o pursuit_n of_o paul_n the_o jew_n lay_v violent_a hand_n upon_o sasthenes_n and_o that_o before_o the_o judgement_n seat_n yet_o gallio_n care_v for_o none_o of_o those_o thing_n act_n 18_o 15.16.17_o discusser_n in_o the_o three_o place_n i_o quere_z whether_o the_o father_n who_o give_v the_o sheep_n and_o the_o son_n who_o keep_v they_o be_v not_o great_a than_o all_o and_o who_o can_v pluck_v the_o elect_a out_o of_o his_o hand_n which_o answer_v the_o common_a objection_n of_o the_o danger_n of_o devour_a soul_n defender_n it_o do_v not_o answer_v that_o objection_n for_o the_o father_n and_o son_n be_v great_a than_o all_o in_o the_o old_a testament_n as_o well_o as_o in_o the_o new_a and_o none_o can_v then_o pluck_v
do_v in_o vain_a go_v about_o from_o this_o place_n to_o establish_v their_o sacrilegious_a tyranny_n by_o give_v law_n without_o the_o word_n and_o beside_o the_o word_n to_o bind_v conscience_n therefore_o civil_a magistrate_n of_o who_o this_o whole_a discourse_n be_v shall_v exercise_v a_o sacrilegious_a tyranny_n over_o the_o conscience_n and_o in_o vain_a go_v about_o to_o establish_v it_o from_o this_o place_n when_o from_o the_o word_n of_o god_n they_o establish_v true_a religion_n and_o go_v about_o to_o punish_v the_o fundamental_a subverter_n of_o the_o same_o but_o how_o far_o off_o calve_v judgement_n be_v to_o restrain_v civil_a magistrate_n from_o meddle_v in_o matter_n of_o religion_n let_v he_o interpret_v himself_o in_o his_o own_o word_n in_o his_o opuscula_fw-la in_o his_o answer_n to_o servetus_n who_o be_v put_v to_o death_n for_o his_o heresy_n at_o geneva_n by_o his_o procurement_n ho_o uno_fw-la say_v he_o contentus_fw-la sum_fw-la christi_fw-la adventû_fw-fr nec_fw-la mutatum_fw-la esse_fw-la ordinem_fw-la politicum_fw-la nec_fw-la de_fw-la magistratuum_fw-la officio_fw-la quicquam_fw-la detractum_fw-la a_o gedùm_fw-la quod_fw-la paulus_n docet_fw-la rom._n 13.4_o non_fw-la frustra_fw-la ah_o ipsis_fw-la gladium_fw-la gestari_fw-la a_o ad_fw-la speciem_fw-la unam_fw-la restringi_fw-la debet_fw-la fatentur_fw-la isti_fw-la quibuscum_fw-la nunc_fw-la discepto_fw-la ad_fw-la alia_fw-la crimina_fw-la plectenda_fw-la judices_fw-la divini●ùs_fw-la esse_fw-la amatos_fw-la mo●●_n â_fw-la religione_fw-la abstineani_fw-la ut_fw-la libera_fw-la ipsis_fw-la tacentibus_fw-la impietas_fw-la lasciviat_fw-la verirm_a reclamat_fw-la innumeris_fw-la locis_fw-la spiritus_fw-la sanctus_n etc._n etc._n this_o one_o thing_n say_v he_o suffice_v i_o that_o by_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n neither_o be_v the_o state_n of_o civil_a government_n change_v nor_o any_o thing_n take_v away_o from_o the_o magistrate_n office_n go_v to_o then_o that_o which_o paul_n teach_v rom._n 13.4_o that_o he_o bear_v not_o the_o sword_n in_o vain_a ought_v it_o to_o be_v restrain_v unto_o one_o kind_n only_o they_o themselves_o confess_v with_o who_o i_o have_v to_o deal_v the_o magistrate_n be_v arm_v of_o god_n to_o punish_v other_o crime_n so_o that_o they_o abstain_v from_o matter_n of_o religion_n that_o so_o ungodlynesse_n may_v run_v riot_n by_o their_o connivance_n but_o the_o holy_a ghost_n cry_v out_o against_o this_o in_o many_o place_n etc._n etc._n discusser_n again_o calvin_n speak_v of_o sulfil_v the_o law_n by_o love_n write_v thus_o on_o the_o same_o place_n paul_n have_v not_o respect_n unto_o the_o whole_a law_n he_o speak_v only_o of_o those_o duty_n which_o the_o law_n command_v we_o towards_o our_o neighbour_n and_o after_o paul_n only_o mention_v the_o second_o table_n etc._n etc._n and_o that_o he_o repeat_v love_n be_v the_o fulfil_n of_o the_o law_n understand_v it_o as_o before_o of_o that_o part_n of_o the_o law_n which_o concern_v humane_a society_n for_o the_o former_a table_n of_o the_o law_n which_o be_v of_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n be_v not_o here_o touch_v so_o beza_n upon_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d if_o there_o be_v any_o other_o commandment_n it_o be_v sum_v up_o in_o this_o thou_o shall_v love_v thy_o neighbour_n as_o thyself_o the_o whole_a law_n say_v he_o command_v nothing_o but_o the_o love_n of_o god_n and_o our_o neighbour_n but_o since_o the_o apostle_n in_o this_o place_n discourse_v of_o the_o mutual_a duty_n of_o man_n one_o to_o another_o i_o think_v this_o term_n law_n aught_o to_o be_v restrain_v to_o the_o second_o table_n defender_n and_o so_o think_v i_o too_o yet_o without_o the_o least_o prejudice_n to_o the_o cause_n in_o hand_n for_o if_o the_o question_n be_v of_o the_o duty_n which_o subject_n owe_v to_o magistrate_n they_o pertain_v to_o the_o second_o table_n or_o if_o the_o question_n be_v of_o the_o virtue_n eof_o love_v one_o to_o another_o that_o 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subject_n to_o magistrate_n be_v duty_n of_o the_o second_o table_n therefore_o it_o be_v not_o the_o duty_n of_o subject_n to_o pray_v for_o their_o magistrate_n which_o be_v a_o duty_n of_o the_o first_o table_n the_o truth_n be_v though_o prayer_n be_v a_o duty_n of_o the_o first_o table_n yet_o to_o pray_v for_o magistrate_n be_v a_o duty_n of_o the_o second_o table_n in_o like_a sort_n though_o idolatry_n and_o blasphemy_n and_o heresy_n be_v sin_n against_o the_o first_o table_n yet_o to_o punish_v these_o with_o civil_a penalty_n be_v a_o duty_n of_o the_o second_o table_n for_o let_v it_o be_v consider_v in_o the_o fear_n of_o god_n be_v not_o all_o duty_n of_o righteousness_n to_o man_n command_v in_o the_o second_o table_n as_o well_o as_o all_o duty_n of_o holiness_n to_o god_n command_v in_o the_o first_o table_n if_o so_o i_o demand_v again_o whether_o it_o be_v not_o a_o duty_n of_o righteousness_n belong_v to_o the_o people_n of_o god_n to_o enjoy_v the_o free_a passage_n of_o religion_n truth_n of_o doctrine_n holiness_n of_o worship_n purity_n of_o church-government_n i_o demand_v yet_o further_o if_o it_o be_v not_o a_o injurious_a deal_n to_o the_o people_n of_o god_n to_o disturb_v the_o truth_n of_o doctrine_n with_o heresy_n the_o holiness_n of_o worship_n with_o idolatry_n the_o purity_n of_o government_n with_o tyranny_n if_o all_o these_o be_v grant_v than_o it_o avoidable_o follow_v that_o all_o these_o way_n of_o unrighteousness_n be_v just_o punishable_a by_o the_o second_o table_n let_v not_o therefore_o the_o discusser_n please_v himself_o in_o delude_v himself_o and_o the_o world_n that_o beza_n and_o calvine_n do_v absolute_o deny_v the_o 13._o of_o the_o roman_n to_o concern_v any_o matter_n of_o the_o first_o table_n for_o though_o the_o duty_n of_o loyalty_n to_o magistrate_n and_o of_o love_n to_o all_o concern_v the_o second_o table_n yet_o it_o be_v neither_o the_o word_n nor_o judgement_n of_o calvine_n or_o beza_n so_o to_o interpret_v rom._n 13._o as_o to_o exempt_a magistrate_n from_o power_n of_o punish_v heresy_n and_o idolatry_n calvine_v interpretation_n of_o rom._n 13.4_o and_o his_o argument_n from_o thence_o against_o servetus_n be_v declare_v above_o in_o this_o chapter_n hear_v now_o how_o beza_n interprete_v the_o same_o text_n in_o his_o book_n entitle_v de_fw-fr haereticis_fw-la â_fw-la magistratu_fw-la puniendis_fw-la testatur_fw-la paulus_n magistratum_fw-la esse_fw-la dei_fw-la ministrum_fw-la qui_fw-la gladium_fw-la gerat_fw-la ad_fw-la eas_fw-la ulciscendas_fw-la qui_fw-la malè_fw-la agunt_fw-la rom._n 13.4_o quamobrem_fw-la alterutrum_fw-la necesse_fw-la est_fw-la si_fw-la in_o haereticos_fw-la magistratus_fw-la jus_o nullum_fw-la habet_fw-la vel_fw-la ipsos_fw-la malè_fw-la non_fw-la agere_fw-la quod_fw-la refutatione_n indigere_fw-la non_fw-la puto_fw-la vel_fw-la quod_fw-la in_o genere_fw-la paulus_n ait_fw-la ad_fw-la certum_fw-la maleficiorum_fw-la genus_fw-la revocandum_fw-la eorum_fw-la videlicet_fw-la quae_fw-la corporalia_fw-la peccata_fw-la vocant_fw-la de_fw-la quo_fw-la malificiorum_fw-la discrimine_fw-la copiosius_fw-la ut_fw-la spero_fw-la posteà_fw-la svo_fw-la loco_fw-la disseram_fw-la that_o be_v paul_n witness_v say_v he_o that_o the_o magistrate_n be_v god_n minister_n who_o bear_v the_o sword_n to_o take_v vengeance_n on_o they_o that_o do_v evil_a rom._n 13.4_o wherefore_o one_o of_o these_o two_o must_v needs_o be_v if_o magistrate_n shall_v have_v no_o just_a power_n over_o heretic_n either_o that_o heretic_n be_v not_o evil_a doer_n which_o be_v so_o gross_a that_o i_o think_v it_o need_v no_o refutation_n or_o else_o that_o paul_n speech_n be_v to_o be_v restrain_v to_o a_o certain_a sort_n of_o evil_a deed_n to_o wit_n such_o as_o they_o call_v corporal_a sin_n of_o which_o distinction_n of_o evil_a deed_n i_o shall_v dispute_v more_o large_o i_o hope_v in_o his_o due_a place_n hereafter_o so_o beza_n chap._n 48._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o chap._n 48._o discusser_n the_o high_a power_n in_o this_o rom._n 13._o be_v among_o other_o the_o roman_a emperor_n and_o subordinate_a magistrate_n
a_o city_n or_o civil_a state_n and_o for_o the_o suppress_n of_o uncivil_a and_o injurious_a person_n or_o action_n by_o civil_a punishment_n and_o therefore_o this_o sword_n can_v extend_v now_o as_o it_o do_v in_o israel_n of_o old_a to_o spiritual_a and_o soul_n cause_n to_o spiritual_a and_o soul_n punishment_n defender_n i_o easy_o hold_v with_o the_o discusser_n that_o the_o civil_a sword_n do_v not_o extend_v to_o spiritual_a and_o soul_n punishment_n but_o if_o the_o civil_a sword_n ought_v to_o extend_v to_o the_o defence_n of_o civil_a man_n in_o civil_a liberty_n then_o why_o not_o also_o to_o the_o like_a defence_n of_o church_n and_o spiritual_a person_n in_o their_o spiritual_a liberty_n it_o be_v the_o office_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n to_o govern_v his_o people_n in_o righteousness_n and_o if_o spiritual_a liberty_n be_v in_o righteousness_n due_a to_o spiritual_a person_n as_o well_o as_o civil_a liberty_n to_o civil_a person_n doubtless_o the_o magistrate_n be_v defective_a in_o rule_n of_o righteousness_n if_o he_o only_o attend_v the_o defence_n of_o the_o civil_a people_n in_o their_o civil_a right_n and_o neglect_v to_o defend_v his_o spiritual_a people_n in_o their_o spiritual_a right_n what_o though_o the_o sword_n be_v of_o a_o material_a and_o civil_a nature_n so_o it_o be_v in_o the_o old_a testament_n as_o well_o as_o in_o the_o new_a it_o can_v therefore_o reach_v no_o further_o either_o then_o or_o now_o then_o unto_o the_o punishment_n of_o man_n in_o bodily_a life_n or_o civil_a liberty_n but_o it_o can_v reach_v to_o punish_v in_o these_o thing_n not_o only_o the_o offender_n in_o bodily_a life_n and_o civil_a liberty_n but_o also_o the_o offender_n against_o spiritual_a life_n and_o soul_n liberties_n what_o though_o it_o be_v call_v a_o civil_a sword_n in_o common_a speech_n it_o be_v not_o a_o scripture-phrase_n so_o to_o call_v it_o it_o may_v as_o fit_o be_v call_v the_o sword_n of_o god_n as_o well_o as_o the_o sword_n of_o war_n be_v so_o call_v judge_n 7.20_o which_o the_o discusser_n guileful_o or_o else_o unskilful_o distinguish_v in_o this_o chapter_n from_o the_o civil_a sword_n now_o if_o the_o sword_n of_o the_o judge_n or_o magistrate_n be_v the_o sword_n of_o the_o lord_n why_o may_v it_o not_o be_v draw_v forth_o as_o well_o to_o defend_v his_o subject_n in_o true_a religion_n as_o in_o civil_a peace_n and_o as_o magistrate_n be_v call_v in_o common_a speech_n civil_a magistrate_n so_o be_v they_o call_v also_o in_o the_o language_n of_o the_o sanctuary_n god_n psal_n 82.1.6_o if_o civil_a magistrate_n be_v to_o attend_v to_o civil_a matter_n be_v not_o god_n to_o attend_v to_o god_n matter_n it_o be_v wont_a to_o go_v for_o a_o good_a argument_n â_fw-la conjugatis_fw-la homo_fw-la sum_fw-la humani_fw-la nihil_fw-la â_fw-la i_o alienum_fw-la puto_fw-la but_o now_o by_o the_o discusser_n doctrine_n the_o magistrate_n may_v say_v ego_fw-la dignatione_fw-la divinâ_fw-la deus_fw-la sum_fw-la psal_n 82._o quatenus_fw-la autem_fw-la deus_fw-la sum_fw-la divina_fw-la omne_fw-la â_fw-la i_o aliena_fw-la puto_fw-la now_o far_o be_v all_o such_o reasonless_a and_o paganish_v yea_o worse_o than_o paganish_v atheology_n from_o we_o worse_o than_o paganish_v i_o say_v for_o pagan_a prince_n account_v their_o religion_n their_o chief_a care_n prima_fw-la cura_fw-la sacrorum_fw-la and_o can_v a_o christian_a forbid_v the_o care_n of_o religion_n to_o magistrate_n i_o say_v not_o without_o blush_v but_o without_o tremble_v object_n but_o magistrate_n be_v call_v god_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n not_o so_o in_o the_o new_a now_o under_o christ_n all_o nation_n be_v mere_o civil_a without_o any_o such_o typical_a holy_a respect_n upon_o they_o as_o be_v upon_o israel_n a_o nationall_n church_n ans_fw-fr it_o be_v write_v in_o the_o new_a testament_n the_o kingdom_n of_o the_o world_n be_v become_v the_o kingdom_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o of_o christ_n rev._n 17.15_o and_o if_o the_o kingdom_n be_v god_n kingdom_n and_o the_o kingdom_n of_o christ_n than_o the_o king_n of_o those_o kingdom_n be_v god_n king_n and_o christian_a king_n and_o what_o title_n be_v there_o in_o all_o the_o new_a testament_n that_o either_o derogate_v from_o the_o title_n or_o office_n of_o king_n though_o the_o nation_n now_o have_v not_o that_o typical_a holiness_n which_o the_o nation_n of_o israel_n have_v yet_o all_o the_o church_n of_o the_o saint_n have_v as_o much_o truth_n and_o reality_n of_o holiness_n as_o israel_n have_v and_o therefore_o what_o holy_a care_n of_o religion_n lay_v upon_o the_o king_n of_o israel_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n the_o same_o lie_v now_o upon_o christian_a king_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n to_o protect_v the_o same_o in_o their_o church_n chap._n 51._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o chap._n 51._o discusser_n a_o four_o argument_n from_o this_o scripture_n rom._n 13._o i_o take_v in_o ver_fw-la 6._o which_o be_v a_o mere_o civil_a reward_n for_o the_o magistrate_n work_v now_o as_o the_o wage_n be_v such_o be_v the_o work_n but_o the_o wage_n be_v mere_o civil_a custom_n tribute_n not_o the_o contribution_n of_o the_o saint_n or_o church_n of_o christ_n etc._n etc._n defender_n the_o contribution_n of_o the_o saint_n and_o church_n be_v true_o call_v by_o the_o apostle_n carnal_a thing_n roman_n 15.27_o and_o again_o 2_o cor._n 9.11_o but_o shall_v a_o man_n therefore_o thus_o reason_n as_o the_o wage_n be_v such_o be_v the_o work_n but_o the_o wage_n be_v carnal_a thing_n therefore_o such_o be_v the_o work_n of_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n to_o who_o such_o wage_n be_v pay_v it_o be_v true_a the_o contribution_n of_o the_o saint_n may_v be_v call_v holy_a because_o they_o be_v give_v to_o god_n and_o by_o his_o appointment_n to_o the_o maintenance_n of_o such_o as_o minister_v in_o his_o house_n about_o his_o holy_a thing_n but_o these_o be_v mental_a relation_n no_o real_a differance_n in_o the_o thign_v 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supplication_n intercession_n and_o give_v of_o thanks_o for_o they_o 1_o tim._n 1.1_o 2._o and_o sure_o these_o be_v spiritual_a due_n and_o not_o earthly_a and_o therefore_o magistrate_n owe_v to_o the_o church_n and_o saint_n some_o spiritual_a recompense_n which_o the_o apostle_n also_o there_o name_v that_o we_o may_v live_v a_o quiet_a and_o peaceable_a life_n in_o all_o godliness_n and_o honesty_n ver_fw-la 2._o if_o therefore_o the_o church_n and_o saint_n be_v not_o suffer_v to_o live_v a_o quiet_a and_o peaceable_a life_n in_o godliness_n and_o honesty_n or_o if_o they_o be_v suffer_v to_o live_v a_o quiet_a and_o peaceable_a life_n in_o ungodliness_n and_o dishonesty_n the_o magistrate_n fall_v short_a of_o return_v spiritual_a recompense_n for_o the_o spiritual_a duty_n and_o service_n perform_v for_o they_o discusser_n last_o that_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n never_o intend_v to_o direct_v or_o warrant_v the_o magistrate_n to_o use_v his_o power_n in_o spiritual_a affair_n and_o religion_n i_o argue_v from_o the_o term_n or_o title_n give_v by_o god_n to_o such_o civil_a officer_n to_o wit_n god_n minister_n ver_fw-la 6._o defender_n one_o will_v think_v the_o argument_n will_v rather_o evince_v the_o contrary_n for_o what_o be_v a_o minister_n but_o a_o servant_n and_o what_o be_v a_o servant_n but_o he_o that_o be_v at_o his_o master_n command_n for_o his_o efficient_a cause_n and_o for_o his_o master_n end_n as_o his_o final_a cause_n how_o shall_v then_o a_o magistrate_n carry_v himself_o as_o a_o minister_n of_o god_n and_o yet_o fall_v short_a and_o intend_v so_o to_o do_v both_o of_o god_n commandment_n in_o his_o law_n and_o of_o god_n worship_n and_o glory_n in_o the_o execution_n of_o they_o discusser_n but_o at_o the_o very_a first_o blush_n any_o man_n will_v acknowledge_v a_o double_a ministry_n the_o one_o appoint_v by_o christ_n in_o his_o church_n to_o order_v the_o
and_o rule_v a_o thousand_o year_n revel_v 20.4_o shall_v their_o freedom_n from_o persecution_n be_v a_o dissolution_n of_o the_o church-estate_n the_o like_a may_v be_v say_v of_o the_o new_a jerusalem_n the_o church_n of_o the_o jew_n after_o the_o destruction_n of_o gog_n and_o magog_n when_o god_n shall_v wipe_v away_o all_o tear_n from_o their_o eye_n and_o take_v away_o death_n violent_a death_n sorrow_n cry_v and_o pain_n rev._n 21.4_o shall_v they_o then_o cease_v to_o be_v church_n when_o persecution_n cease_v beside_o to_o persecute_v be_v not_o always_o a_o mark_n of_o a_o false_a church_n for_o than_o it_o will_v be_v a_o mark_n of_o a_o false_a member_n of_o a_o church_n or_o a_o mark_n of_o a_o member_n of_o a_o false_a church_n but_o the_o contrary_n appear_v in_o the_o example_n of_o asa_n who_o persecute_v the_o prophet_n of_o god_n for_o his_o holy_a message_n sake_n 2_o chron._n 16.10_o and_o it_o have_v be_v show_v above_o that_o stephen_n complain_v of_o the_o persecution_n of_o all_o the_o prophet_n act_n 7.51_o and_o if_o they_o be_v persecute_v it_o be_v by_o the_o church_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n and_o if_o therefore_o the_o church_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n be_v false_a god_n have_v then_o no_o church_n extant_a upon_o the_o face_n of_o the_o earth_n it_o be_v therefore_o a_o beg_n of_o the_o question_n to_o affirm_v that_o those_o church_n can_v be_v true_o christian_a who_o by_o themselves_o or_o by_o the_o civil_a power_n of_o king_n do_v punish_v such_o as_o dissent_v from_o they_o or_o be_v opposite_a against_o they_o and_o indeed_o a_o double_a beg_n of_o the_o question_n it_o be_v for_o 1._o it_o beg_v that_o for_o the_o question_n which_o be_v not_o the_o question_n for_o it_o be_v no_o question_n but_o out_o of_o question_n that_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a for_o a_o christian_a church_n to_o punish_v man_n for_o dissent_v from_o they_o or_o be_v opposite_a to_o they_o but_o the_o question_n be_v whether_o christian_a magistrate_n may_v not_o punish_v apostate_n heretic_n and_o seducer_n not_o for_o dissent_v from_o the_o church_n but_o for_o seduce_v from_o christ_n and_o blaspheme_v against_o his_o name_n and_o if_o you_o will_v whether_o the_o church_n may_v not_o stir_v up_o the_o christian_a magistrate_n after_o all_o mild_a help_n use_v without_o a_o veil_n to_o do_v his_o duty_n in_o such_o a_o case_n 2._o it_o be_v another_o beg_n of_o the_o question_n to_o take_v that_o for_o grant_v which_o be_v not_o yet_o prove_v that_o it_o be_v a_o mark_n of_o no_o true_a christian_a church_n to_o procure_v the_o civil_a punishment_n of_o incurable_a obstinate_a heretic_n and_o seducer_n discusser_n when_o the_o answerer_n say_v that_o to_o excommunicate_v a_o heretic_n be_v not_o to_o persecute_v i_o answer_v if_o the_o answerer_n be_v thorough_o awake_v from_o the_o spouse_n spiritual_a slumber_n cant._n 5._o and_o have_v recover_v from_o the_o drunkenness_n of_o the_o great_a whore_n who_o intoxicate_v the_o nation_n rev._n 17._o it_o be_v impossible_a that_o he_o shall_v so_o answer_v for_o who_o question_v whether_o to_o excommunicate_v a_o heretic_n be_v to_o persecute_v excommunication_n be_v of_o a_o spiritual_a nature_n a_o sentence_n denounce_v by_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n jesus_n the_o spiritual_a king_n of_o the_o chureh_n and_o a_o spiritual_a kill_n by_o the_o two_o edge_a sword_n of_o the_o spirit_n in_o deliver_v up_o the_o person_n excommunicate_a unto_o satan_n therefore_o who_o see_v not_o this_o answer_n come_v not_o near_o the_o question_n defender_n i_o must_v still_o profess_v myself_o to_o be_v one_o of_o they_o that_o see_v it_o not_o for_o first_o the_o author_n of_o the_o letter_n do_v no_o where_n express_v himself_o to_o put_v any_o difference_n neither_o between_o church_n and_o court_n in_o point_n of_o censure_n for_o cause_n of_o conscience_n nor_o between_o cause_n of_o religion_n whether_o true_a or_o false_a if_o it_o be_v unlawful_a to_o banish_v any_o from_o the_o commonwealth_n for_o cause_n of_o conscience_n it_o be_v unlawful_a to_o banish_v any_o from_o the_o church_n for_o cause_n of_o conscience_n the_o church_n ought_v to_o be_v more_o tender_a of_o the_o liberty_n of_o conscience_n than_o the_o court_n as_o be_v more_o acquaint_v with_o the_o tenderness_n of_o conscience_n second_o if_o the_o censure_n of_o a_o man_n for_o cause_n of_o conscience_n by_o the_o civil_a sword_n be_v persecution_n it_o be_v a_o far_o great_a persecution_n to_o censure_v a_o man_n for_o cause_n of_o conscience_n by_o the_o spiritual_a sword_n by_o how_o much_o the_o more_o sharp_a and_o keen_a the_o spiritual_a sword_n be_v above_o the_o civil_a sure_o i_o be_o christ_n jesus_n reckon_v excommunication_n for_o persecution_n luke_n 21.12_o they_o shall_v lay_v their_o hand_n on_o you_o and_o persecute_v you_o deliver_v you_o up_o to_o the_o synagogue_n and_o into_o prison_n to_o deliver_v up_o into_o synagogue_n be_v as_o much_o persecution_n as_o to_o deliver_v into_o prison_n and_o will_v the_o discusser_n then_o say_v that_o if_o christ_n have_v be_v awaken_v from_o his_o spiritual_a slumber_n and_o from_o the_o drunkenness_n of_o the_o great_a whore_n it_o have_v be_v impossible_a he_o shall_v have_v account_v excommunication_n a_o persecution_n i_o think_v if_o a_o soul_n be_v awaken_v unto_o spiritual_a sobriety_n he_o shall_v judge_v it_o a_o sore_a and_o a_o deep_a affliction_n to_o be_v bind_v with_o spiritual_a chain_n both_o in_o earth_n and_o heaven_n then_o to_o be_v bind_v in_o material_a chain_n on_o earth_n only_o discusser_n but_o hilary_n his_o complaint_n speak_v not_o to_o excommunication_n but_o to_o civil_a censure_n defender_n therefore_o my_o answer_n be_v to_o he_o partly_o by_o proportion_n partly_o by_o concession_n hilary_n say_v the_o christian_a church_n do_v not_o persecute_v but_o be_v persecute_v whereto_o i_o answer_v 1._o that_o excommunication_n of_o a_o heretic_n 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infliction_n of_o the_o civil_a punishment_n his_o speech_n be_v true_a and_o the_o proportion_n hold_v civil_a punishment_n be_v as_o improper_a for_o christian_a church_n to_o inflict_v as_o for_o lily_n to_o scratch_v thorn_n or_o lamb_n to_o tear_v wolf_n etc._n etc._n but_o if_o the_o lamb_n he_o speak_v of_o in_o his_o comparison_n be_v as_o reasonable_a as_o the_o lamb_n of_o christ_n be_v though_o they_o will_v not_o themselves_o pursue_v and_o tear_v the_o wolf_n yet_o they_o will_v run_v to_o their_o shepherd_n and_o civil_a magistrate_n be_v the_o shepherd_n of_o all_o their_o people_n to_o send_v out_o their_o dog_n after_o the_o wolf_n to_o pursue_v and_o tear_v they_o i_o see_v no_o reason_n why_o the_o chaste_a and_o modest_a eye_n of_o a_o christian_a church_n shall_v any_o more_o spare_v and_o pity_v a_o spiritual_a adulterer_n that_o seek_v to_o withdraw_v she_o from_o her_o spouse_n to_o a_o false_a christ_n than_o the_o eye_n of_o a_o holy_a israelite_n be_v to_o spare_v and_o pity_v the_o like_a tempter_n in_o day_n of_o old_a deut._n 13.8_o chap._n 66._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o chap._n 69._o discusser_n the_o answer_n by_o concession_n to_o hilaryes_n word_n may_v surth_o be_v discuss_v it_o be_v true_a say_v the_o answerer_n as_o hylary_n speak_v that_o neither_o the_o apostle_n nor_o we_o may_v propagate_v christian_a religion_n by_o the_o sword_n but_o if_o pagan_n can_v be_v win_v by_o the_o word_n they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v compel_v by_o the_o sword_n nevertheless_o this_o hinder_v not_o but_o if_o they_o or_o any_o other_o shall_v blaspheme_v the_o true_a god_n and_o his_o true_a religion_n they_o ought_v to_o be_v severe_o punish_v and_o no_o less_o do_v they_o deserve_v who_o seduce_v from_o the_o truth_n to_o damnable_a heresy_n and_o idolatry_n in_o which_o answer_n i_o observe_v first_o his_o agreement_n with_o hilary_n that_o christian_a
religion_n may_v not_o be_v propagate_v by_o the_o civil_a sword_n unto_o which_o i_o reply_v what_o mean_v then_o this_o passage_n in_o his_o first_o answer_n to_o the_o former_a speech_n of_o the_o king_n viz._n we_o acknowledge_v that_o none_o be_v to_o be_v constrain_v to_o believe_v or_o profess_v the_o true_a religion_n till_o he_o be_v convince_v in_o judgement_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o it_o defender_n if_o it_o be_v observe_v my_o agreement_n with_o hilary_n then_o let_v it_o be_v observe_v that_o the_o discusser_v in_o whet_v the_o word_n of_o the_o author_n of_o the_o letter_n against_o we_o lay_v a_o false_a charge_n upon_o we_o as_o if_o we_o maintain_v such_o persecution_n for_o cause_n of_o conscience_n as_o be_v condemn_v by_o the_o ancient_a writer_n of_o who_o hilary_n be_v name_v for_o one_o and_o for_o the_o first_o and_o yet_o in_o the_o discussion_n it_o be_v find_v that_o we_o agree_v with_o he_o in_o that_o answer_n to_o the_o speech_n of_o the_o king_n when_o i_o acknowledge_v that_o none_o be_v to_o be_v constrain_v to_o believe_v or_o profess_v the_o true_a religion_n till_o he_o be_v convince_v of_o the_o truth_n of_o it_o i_o do_v not_o mean_a that_o after_o he_o be_v convince_v he_o may_v then_o be_v constrain_v with_o civil_a censfure_n for_o neither_o believe_v nor_o profess_v to_o believe_v be_v to_o be_v constrain_v with_o civil_a censure_n but_o yet_o thus_o far_o he_o may_v be_v constrain_v by_o withhold_v such_o countenance_n and_o favour_n from_o he_o such_o encouragement_n and_o employment_n from_o he_o as_o a_o wise_a and_o discern_a prince_n will_v otherwise_o grant_v to_o such_o as_o believe_v the_o truth_n and_o profess_v it_o so_o far_o as_o they_o be_v convince_v of_o it_o in_o judgement_n and_o conscience_n for_o such_o as_o will_v not_o walk_v according_a to_o their_o light_n be_v neither_o trusty_a servant_n to_o god_n nor_o man_n discusser_n that_o answer_n to_o the_o speech_n of_o the_o king_n impli_v two_o thing_n 1._o that_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n who_o be_v to_o constrain_v must_v judge_v of_o all_o the_o conscience_n of_o their_o subject_n whether_o they_o be_v convince_v or_o no._n 2._o that_o when_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n discern_v that_o his_o subject_n conscience_n be_v convince_v than_o he_o may_v constrain_v they_o vi_o &_o armis_fw-la hostile_o and_o according_o who_o know_v not_o what_o constraint_n lie_v upon_o all_o conscience_n in_o old_a and_o new-england_n to_o come_v to_o church_n and_o to_o pay_v church-duty_n which_o be_v upon_o the_o point_n though_o with_o a_o sword_n of_o a_o fine_a gilt_n and_o trim_a in_o new-england_n nothing_o else_o but_o that_o which_o he_o confess_v hilary_n say_v shall_v not_o be_v do_v to_o wit_n a_o propagation_n of_o religion_n by_o the_o sword_n defender_n neither_o of_o both_o these_o thing_n be_v employ_v in_o that_o answer_n not_o the_o first_o that_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n must_v then_o judge_v of_o all_o of_o the_o conscience_n of_o their_o subject_n whether_o they_o be_v convince_v or_o no_o for_o it_o impli_v no_o more_o than_o that_o he_o be_v not_o to_o constrain_v they_o till_o he_o see_v they_o be_v convince_v if_o he_o never_o see_v they_o convince_v he_o be_v to_o see_v they_o be_v never_o constrain_v but_o how_o far_o the_o magistrate_n may_v discern_v and_o judge_v in_o matter_n of_o religion_n have_v be_v speak_v above_o nor_o the_o second_o for_o the_o constraint_n i_o speak_v of_o be_v not_o by_o positive_a mean_n vi_fw-la &_o armis_fw-la but_o negative_a withhold_v such_o trust_n and_o employment_n from_o such_o as_o he_o see_v be_v not_o faithful_a and_o trusty_a to_o their_o god_n of_o who_o truth_n they_o be_v convince_v and_o yet_o withhold_v it_o in_o unrighteousness_n i_o know_v no_o constraint_n at_o all_o that_o lie_v upon_o the_o conscience_n of_o any_o in_o new-england_n to_o come_v to_o church_n neither_o do_v i_o know_v that_o any_o scruple_n lie_v upon_o any_o conscience_n in_o new-england_n that_o withhold_v any_o from_o hear_v the_o word_n among_o we_o but_o least_o of_o all_o do_v i_o know_v that_o any_o be_v constrain_v to_o pay_v church-duty_n in_o new-england_n sure_o i_o be_o none_o in_o our_o own_o town_n neither_o church-member_n nor_o other_o be_v constrain_v to_o pay_v any_o church-duty_n at_o all_o what_o they_o pay_v they_o give_v voluntary_o each_o one_o with_o his_o own_o hand_n without_o any_o constraint_n at_o all_o but_o their_o own_o will_n as_o the_o lord_n direct_v they_o discusser_n again_o although_o he_o confess_v that_o propagation_n of_o religion_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v by_o the_o sword_n yet_o he_o maintain_v the_o use_n of_o the_o sword_n when_o person_n in_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o civil_a state_n for_o that_o be_v employ_v shall_v blaspheme_v the_o true_a god_n and_o the_o true_a religion_n and_o also_o seduce_v other_o to_o damnable_a heresy_n and_o idolatry_n defender_n true_a but_o this_o be_v not_o the_o propagation_n of_o religion_n but_o the_o preservation_n of_o it_o or_o if_o it_o do_v conduce_v to_o propagation_n it_o be_v only_o removendo_fw-la probibens_fw-la chap._n 67._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o chap._n 70._o discuss_v the_o testimony_n of_o tertullian_n discusser_n to_o tertullian_n the_o answerer_n give_v the_o like_a answer_n tertullia_n intent_n say_v he_o be_v only_o to_o restrain_v scapula_n the_o roman_a governor_n of_o africa_n from_o persecute_v the_o christian_n for_o not_o offer_v sacrifice_n to_o their_o heathen_a god_n and_o for_o that_o end_n fetch_v a_o argument_n from_o the_o law_n of_o natural_a equity_n not_o to_o compel_v any_o to_o any_o religion_n but_o to_o permit_v they_o to_o believe_v or_o not_o to_o believe_v at_o all_o which_o we_o acknowledge_v we_o judge_v the_o english_a may_v permit_v the_o indian_n to_o continue_v in_o their_o unbelief_n nevertheless_o it_o will_v not_o therefore_o be_v lawful_a to_o tolerate_v the_o public_a worship_n of_o devil_n or_o idol_n in_o a_o christian_a state_n or_o the_o seduction_n of_o any_o from_o the_o truth_n in_o this_o passage_n he_o agree_v with_o tertullian_n but_o it_o be_v well_o know_v that_o in_o new-england_n they_o not_o only_o permit_v the_o indian_n to_o continue_v in_o their_o unbelief_n which_o they_o can_v help_v but_o they_o also_o permit_v or_o tolerate_v they_o in_o their_o paganish_a worship_n which_o can_v be_v deny_v to_o be_v a_o worship_v of_o devil_n and_o therefore_o consequent_o according_a to_o the_o same_o practice_n do_v they_o walk_v by_o rule_n and_o impartial_o not_o on●●_n the_o indian_n but_o their_o countryman_n french_a dutch_a spanish_a per_fw-la …_o turk_n jew_n shall_v also_o be_v permit_v in_o their_o worship_n if_o correspondent_a in_o civil_a obedience_n defender_n it_o be_v not_o true_a that_o the_o new-english_a do_v tolerate_v the_o indian_n who_o have_v submit_v to_o the_o english_a protection_n and_o government_n in_o their_o worship_n of_o devil_n open_o what_o the_o indian_n do_v that_o be_v not_o under_o the_o english_a government_n the_o english_a have_v no_o warrant_n from_o god_n or_o law_n of_o nation_n to_o restrain_v they_o nor_o be_v it_o in_o the_o power_n of_o the_o english_a to_o restrain_v the_o private_a worship_n which_o some_o of_o the_o indian_n under_o the_o english_a government_n may_v possible_o adhere_v unto_o the_o this_o day_n what_o course_n have_v be_v use_v to_o bring_v they_o on_o to_o civility_n and_o to_o the_o knowledge_n of_o our_o religion_n by_o fair_a mean_n be_v not_o pertinent_a to_o the_o present_a controversy_n to_o relate_v it_o have_v be_v a_o article_n of_o the_o covenant_n between_o such_o indian_n as_o have_v submit_v to_o our_o government_n that_o they_o shall_v submit_v to_o the_o ten_o commandment_n which_o they_o think_v reasonable_a some_o of_o their_o sachims_n young_a child_n be_v bring_v up_o with_o we_o and_o train_v up_o to_o knowledge_n such_o of_o they_o as_o come_v to_o our_o house_n be_v feed_v with_o courtesy_n and_o care_v take_v often_o to_o instruct_v they_o as_o far_o yea_o further_o than_o they_o be_v great_o willing_a to_o hear_v some_o of_o they_o of_o late_a frequent_a our_o market_n to_o get_v money_n by_o sell_v fish_n basket_n whortleberry_n cramberry_n which_o take_v they_o off_o from_o some_o idleness_n some_o english_a be_v studious_a of_o the_o indian_a language_n to_o deal_v with_o they_o in_o their_o own_o tongue_n of_o late_o some_o of_o our_o minister_n have_v preach_v to_o a_o congregation_n of_o they_o while_o other_o at_o first_o interpret_v what_o be_v preach_v but_o since_o one_o of_o our_o minister_n preach_v to_o they_o in_o their_o own_o language_n the_o other_o day_n while_o i_o be_v at_o the_o college_n with_o other_o elder_n a_o indian_a from_o plymouth_n side_n a_o hopeful_a youth_n be_v receive_v into_o some_o employment_n in_o
abound_v in_o worldly_a blessing_n till_o the_o lord_n jesus_n come_v ride_v forth_o among_o they_o upon_o a_o white_a horse_n of_o the_o gospel_n of_o his_o grace_n yet_o after_o they_o neglect_v so_o great_a salvation_n than_o follow_v a_o red_a horse_n of_o war_n and_o a_o black_a horse_n of_o famine_n and_o a_o pale_a horse_n of_o pestilence_n and_o other_o judgement_n which_o much_o impeach_v both_o the_o health_n and_o wealth_n of_o that_o state_n and_o will_v have_v ruin_v it_o have_v it_o not_o cast_v away_o her_o idol_n and_o advance_v the_o sceptre_n of_o the_o lord_n jesus_n now_o the_o god_n of_o all_o grace_n be_v please_v at_o length_n to_o shake_v the_o heart_n of_o this_o discusser_n that_o he_o may_v not_o thus_o delight_v to_o seduce_v himself_o and_o other_o against_o the_o light_n of_o grace_n and_o conscience_n against_o reason_n and_o experience_n discusser_n again_o in_o the_o answerers_n joint-confession_n with_o luther_n that_o the_o church_n do_v not_o use_v the_o secular_a power_n to_o compel_v man_n to_o the_o faith_n and_o profession_n of_o the_o truth_n he_o condemn_v as_o before_o i_o have_v observe_v 1._o his_o former_a implication_n that_o they_o may_v be_v compel_v when_o they_o be_v convince_v of_o the_o truth_n of_o it_o defender_n this_o implication_n where_o it_o be_v former_o observe_v it_o have_v be_v former_o clear_v from_o implication_n of_o contradiction_n i_o have_v never_o say_v that_o after_o man_n be_v convince_v of_o the_o truth_n they_o may_v be_v compel_v to_o the_o profession_n of_o it_o by_o any_o penalty_n but_o only_o by_o withdraw_v such_o favour_n as_o be_v not_o comely_a or_o safe_a for_o faithless_a person_n discusser_n 2._o he_o condemn_v their_o own_o practice_n who_o suffer_v no_o man_n of_o any_o different_a conscience_n and_o worship_n to_o live_v in_o their_o jurisdiction_n unless_o he_o depart_v from_o the_o exercise_n of_o his_o own_o religion_n and_o worship_n differ_v from_o that_o allow_v of_o in_o their_o civil_a estate_n yea_o and_o also_o actual_o submit_v to_o come_v to_o their_o church_n defender_n this_o charge_n of_o the_o discusser_n let_v he_o consider_v if_o it_o be_v not_o contradictory_n to_o his_o own_o relation_n chap._n 60._o where_o he_o say_v we_o permit_v and_o tolerate_v the_o indian_n in_o their_o paganish_a worship_n which_o we_o may_v restrain_v yet_o here_o he_o say_v we_o suffer_v no_o man_n of_o any_o different_a conscience_n or_o worship_n to_o live_v in_o our_o jurisdiction_n neither_o be_v it_o true_a that_o we_o suffer_v no_o man_n of_o any_o different_a conscience_n or_o worship_n to_o live_v in_o our_o jurisdiction_n for_o not_o to_o speak_v of_o presbyterian_o who_o do_v not_o only_o live_v among_o we_o but_o exercise_v their_o public_a ministry_n without_o disturbance_n there_o be_v anabaptist_n and_o antinomian_o tolerate_v to_o live_v not_o only_o in_o our_o jurisdiction_n but_o even_o in_o some_o of_o our_o church_n yea_o say_v the_o 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