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A44395 Golden remains of the ever memorable Mr Iohn Hales of Eton College &c. Hales, John, 1584-1656.; Hollar, Wenceslaus, 1607-1677, engraver.; Pearson, John, 1613-1686.; Gunning, Peter, 1614-1684.; Balcanquhall, Walter, 1586?-1645. 1659 (1659) Wing H269; ESTC R202306 285,104 329

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