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A08891 The fal of Babel By the confusion of tongues directly proving against the Papists of this, and former ages; that a view of their writings, and bookes being taken; cannot be discerned by any man living, what they would say, or how be vnderstoode, in the question of the sacrifice of the masse, the reall presence or transubstantiation, but in explaning their mindes they fall vpon such termes, as the Protestants vse and allow. Further in the question of the Popes supremacy is shevved, how they abuse an authority of the auncient father St. Cyprian, a canon of the I Niceene counsell, and the ecclesiastical historie of Socrates, and Sozomen. And lastly is set downe a briefe of the sucession of Popes in the sea of Rome for these 1600 yeeres togither; ... By Iohn Panke. Panke, John. 1608 (1608) STC 19171; ESTC S102341 167,339 204

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false doctrine ether of Faith or manners coulde ever allight because Christ said to Peter I haue prayed for thee that thy faith faile not c. Let the heretiks therfore knowe that the more more greiuous sinnes they produce against the bishops our faith saith he doth stād the stronger Thus farre Saunders Where any man may playnly see that if that curse denounced by the Lord in the Prophet Esay woe vnto them that speake good of evill evill of good which put darknesse for light light for darknesse doe appertaine or was ever directed against any it will fall on them who build their faith one such a foundation Againe where he saith Omnis homo mendax etiam Romanus pontifex every man is a liar yea the Pope also his old fellow Alphonsus a Castro a strong maintainer of the catholike faith as Genebrard calleth him could write against heretikes such as Luther was and yet say boldly Omnis homo errare potest in fide otiam si Papa sit Every man may erre in the faith yea though he be Pope For it is certaine saith hee Pope Liberius was an Arrian heretike and Pope Anastasius favoured the Nestoriās of this whosoever hath read the histories doth not doubt wheras some doe affirme that hee which erreth in the faith obstinatly is not then Pope by that meanes the Pope cānot be an heretike est in re seria verbis velle iocari it is to trifle with words in a serious matter for according to that reason a man may impudently affirme that no faithful man may erre in the faith for when he is an heretike he then ceaseth to be a faithfull man Nether doe wee doubt saith he whether One man may bee a Pope and an heretike both to gether but this wee seeke whether a man who otherwise is subiect to erre his pontificiall dignity doe free him The pontifical dignity cānot priviledg him who is othe●wise subiect to erre I doe not beleeue that there is any so shamelesse a flatterer of the Pope that he will say he cānot erre or be deceiued in the interpretation of the scripture for seeing it is certaine that many of them haue bin so vnlearned that they haue not vnderstood their Grammer how is it then that they should interpret the holy scriptures Thus far hath Alphonsus gone if not too farre To conclude this inference against Saunders it must not be forgotten that he hath described and confessed the Pope of Rome who with him is Christs vicar to be such an one indued with such qualities as no honest religious vertuous holy faithfull or good man or any child of God or member of Christ was ever said to bee furnished with S. Paule to the Rom. c. 16. 17. S. Paul gaue to the Romās other churches these lessons touching the holynes of their liues Now I beseech you bretheren marke them diligently which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which he hath learned avoid them For they that are such serue not the Lord Iesus Christ but their owne bellies with faire speech and flattering deceaue the harts of the simple Walke wisely towards them that are without and redeeme the time Let your speech be gracious alwaise and powdred with salt that you may knowe how to answere everie man Colloss 4.5.6 Cap. 3.15 Let the peace of God rule in your harts to the which yee are called in one and be yee gracious Abstaine from all apparance of evill And of himselfe who was a teacher he saith Wee command you bretheren in the name of the Lord Iesus Christ 2. Thess 3.6 that yee withdraw your selues from every brother that walketh inordinatly and not after the instruction which hee receaued of vs for yee your selues knowe how yee ought to follow vs for we behaued not our selues inordinatly amongst you And to the Hebrewes he writeth thus Cap. 13.17.18 Obey them that haue the oversight of you and submit your selues for they watch for your soules as they that must giue accompts that they may doe it with ioy and not with greife for that is vnprofitable for you pray for vs for wee are assured that wee haue a good conscience in all things desiring to like honestly Hooker eccl pol. l. 5. para 1. Nullū ego cōsilium melius arbitror quā si exemplo tuo fratrem docere studeas qu● oporteat quae non oporteat fieri prouocans cum ad meliora cōsulens ci non verbo neque lingua sed opere veritate Bern. de adu domini serm 3.1 Peter 2.6.8 Esay 28.16 8.14 Now since it is no particular conceipt but a matter of sound consequēce that all duties are by so much the better performed by how much the men are more religious from whose abilities the same proceed Godlinesse being the cheifest top and well-spring of al true vertues even as God is of all good things howe is it possible that these Popes and church of Rome should hold and keepe Christs regency here on earth to cōmand and appoint lawes and statutes to all Christians and Christian churches and be as it were a communalty free frō all error at least of doctrine claiming from a text of scripture which requireth not only a not fayling in faith but a strēgthning of their brethren that shal slide when they themselues in the meane while shal be a company faithlesse irreligious and vniust yea a lothsome distressed number divorced from al piety religion and godlines Is this the stone that S. Peter ment when he said recording the wordes of the Prophet Esay Behold I put in Sion a chiefe corner stone elect and precious he that beleeveth therein shal not be ashamed A stone to stumble at and rocke of offence even to them that stumble at the word beeing desobedient as Bellarmine implieth where he saith Bellar. in pref in lib. de Rom. pont fo 10. 11. quanquā haec verbs in Christum praecipue convenire non ignoramus cadem tamen ●on inepte in Christi vicarium quadrare censemus although we are not ignorant that those wordes are principally meant of Christ About the yere 1058. In Fasc temp Benedict was Pope 9. mōths and after expulsed and throwen out Iohn 10. hee that entereth not by the dore is a theif a robber Gregory 7. Benno in vita eius If nothing bee in the Chalice but the blood of Christ how could poisō be mingled with it Geneb Chro. l. 4. fol. 887. A schisme 29. yeeres For the full truth of the history of Hēry 4. Emperor Gregory 7. Pope reade the dialogues of my Lord Winton p. 3. f. 430. c. The counsells accused him of all those vices that Cardinall Benno did yet we do not thinke amisse whē we say that they do belong also to Christs vicar the Pope A horrible blasphemy if ever there were any But I will leaue this and turne to their successiō againe Leo. 9.
it pleased almighty God to send ease to his Church in making her chiefe enemies her dearest friends Then began Kings to be her nursing fathers Queenes to be her nursing mothers Then first called he Constantinus surnamed the Great to the knowledge of the truth Esay 49. v. 23. After the first 300. yeeres of a Pagan becōming a Christian putting downe Idololatry and erecting the true service of God Vnder him and his sonnes there liued the Romane Bishops Melchiades Silvester Marcus Iulius Liberius and Felix Strife about Felix Eccle 1. hier l. 4 c. 8. There is much strife in the church of Rome at this and Felix Strife about Felix Eccles hier l. 4. c. 8. There is much strife in the church of Rome at this day about this Felix some of them reakoning him for a Pope and some putting him out Albertus Pighius saith they that register him for a Pope bewray their own ignorance Bellarmine saith Bell. de Rom. pont li. 4. c. 9. fol. 509. their church worshippeth him as Pope and Martyr The strife betweene them two about Felix groweth about Liberius who was Pope next before him This Liberius in his banishment vnder Constantius the Emperour did subscribe to the Arrian heresy and so in his absence out of the Citty Felix was Pope in his roome Thus much doth Bellarmine cōnfesse of Liberius And because Pighius most impudētly denieth that he subscribed Chron. l. 3. fol. 574. Ammianus Marcellinus Comes So was Marcellinus martired yet he fell before They were wont to tell vs that Christ praied for Peter but nowe they tel vs he praied for the chaire he sitteth on Contra haer l. 1. c. 4. Defen Conc. Trid. li. 2. fol. 244. Fasc Tempor in liberio Platina in liberio Annot. Onuphrij Anast Bibl. in Lib. Feli. About the yere of our Lord. 370. A schisme at Rome between Damasus Vrsinus Polid. Verg. de inven rerū li. 5. c. 4. f. 401. Bellar. de cleric l. 1. c. 18. f. 92. Aug. epist 93. l. 2. ad Bonif. cont 2. epist Pelag. c. 4. therefore he shutteth out Felix from being Pope at all D. Genebrard cannot tel what to say directly on this Felix part First he telleth vs that Ammianus Marcellinus in his Chronicles did passe by him as suspected of heresie and Onuphrius one that wished as wel to the sea of Rome as wel might be maketh him a schismatike and an vnlawful Pope for Liberius over liued him obtained the place alone But other more truer saith he do report that he was Martired in a tumult by the Arrians And yet in the next words he saith that Felix was appointed by Acatius the disciple of Eusebius into the place of Liberius and held for an Arian But such was the force of the Chaire that it would rather hold a Martyr Pope than an heretike Pope or one that should favor the heretikes Thus farre Genebrard Alphousus a Castro maketh no question but that Liberius was an Arrian heretike Anàradius is content that we should cal him vnconstant faithlesse or vniust but in no case an heretike Fasciculus Temporū saith he was the first infamous Pope If you desire more of these two Popes Liberius and Felix read or cause to bee read vnto you Platina who wrote the liues of the Popes and Onuphrius annotations on him and Anastatius Bibliothecarius on the same argument set out by thēselues not aboue three yeeres since and you shal see diversity enough After those followed Damasus Siricius Anastasius Innocentius Sozimus Bonifacius Celestinus Sixtus 3. and Leo the great There was a schisme then in the Church of Rome betweene Damasus and one Vrsinus or Vrcisianus but Damasus obtained yet not without bloud Siricius was the first that in the west parts forbad priests to marry as Polidore Virgil alleadgeth out of Gratian whervnto Bellarmine is now fairely come That it is not forbidden by the law of God that Priests should marry Innocentius the first held and taught a dangerous errour that is That it is necessary to salvation for infants to receiue the cōmunion contrary to Saint Paules rule that none should receiue but those that are able to examine themselues and contrary to the doctrine of the Church of Rome vnder Pius quartus in the Tridentine counsell which accurseth those that thinke the Eucharist is to bee given to infantes before the yeares of discretion Sess 21. can 4. The bishops of Rome contended with the bishops of Aphrica for superiority Bonifacius 1. was the sonne of lucundus a Preist as saith Platina so was Felix 3 who immediatly followed sonne vnto Felix a Priest Leo epist 45. Fasciculus tēp Geneb in Chron. l 3. fol. 600. Eulatius against Bonifacius an 423. Gelasius was the sonne of a bishop called Valerius Plat. in vit eius The first 600. yeares Gelasius decreed in 2. maine points against them now Anastasius 2. an heretike so that the Apostolicall seate in one of these two must needs er In Sozimus Bonifacius Celestinus time there was much cōtrouersie between thē the Aphrican bishops touching appeales to Rome Sozimus began the claime and could not make it good he graced himselfe with warrant from the Nicene councell which beeing demanded no canon nor decree could be shewed The Aphricā bishops deny their appeales thither and so grew much turmoile But if all Churches in al cases were subiect to the sea of Rome iure diuino by Gods law as they would make vs beleeue now very simple was Sozimus to claime by the Canons of the councel of Nice and very forgetful of their duties were the Aphrican bishops who would put him to proue his authoritie by an humane invention when the high God had by his lawes subiected them vnto him before Leo the great yet was his authoritie so smal that hee could not remoue Abbat Eutiches from him but was forced to intreate the Empresse Pulcheria to vse her authoritie therin By this time there had bin fowre schismes in the church of Rome yet Genebrard acknowledged but three After Leo were Hillarius Simplicianus Felix 3. Gelasius Anastasius 2. Simmachus Hormisda Iohn 1. Felix 4. Bonifacius 2. Iohn 2. Agapetus Silverius Vigilius Pelagius Iohn 3. Benedictus Pelagius 2. Gregory the greate these reacheth downe to the first 600. yeares Amongst which Gelasius decreed that to minister the holy communiō in one kind is open sacriledge and againe he defined that the substance of bread and wine remaine after consecratiō both which are diametrally opposite to the doctrine of the new church of Rome Anastasius the second was an heretike as appeareth by the histories Wernerus saith he was the 2 infamous Pope he was a Nestorian heretike as before him his predecessor Liberius was an Arrian Vigilius vsed indirect means to attaine to the Popedōe Huius Vigilij ingressus parum legitimus suit cum praetet ecclesiasticas regulas praedecessore suo Silverio viuente Pōtificatus administratione