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A02253 A ioynt attestation, avowing that the discipline of the Church of England was not impeached by the Synode of Dort Balcanquhall, Walter, 1586?-1645. aut; Carleton, George, 1559-1628. aut 1626 (1626) STC 1239; ESTC S107510 7,963 32

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for us who were assured in our consciences that their Presbyteriall Parity and Laicall Presbyterie was repugnant to the Discipline established by the Apostles and retayned in our Church to declare in a temperate manner our judgement as well concerning that matter though by them purposely excepted as the other expresly referred to us Accordingly the next morning when suffrages were to passe concerning the Doctrine comprised in that Confession wee having by our place the prime voyce in the Synode gave our approbation of the substance of the doctrinall Articles with advice touching some incommodious phrases and withall contrary to the expectation of the whole Synode wee added expresse exception against the suppressed Articles with some touch also of Argument against them Which our Contestation or Protestation for so may it bee styled was principally performed by him whom for prioritie of age place and dignitie it best became and from whose person and gravitie it might be the better taken by the Civill Deputees of the States there present Therein he professed and declared our utter dissent in that point and further shewed that by our Saviour a Paritie of Ministers was never instituted that Christ ordained twelve Apostles and seventy Disciples that the authoritie of the twelve was aboue the other that the Church preserved this order left by our Saviour And therefore when the extraordinary authoritie of the Apostles ceased yet their ordinarie authoritie continued in Bishops who succeeded them who were by the Apostles themselves left in the government of the Church to ordaine Ministers and to see that they who were so ordained should preach no other doctrine that in an inferiour degree the Ministers that were governed by Bishops succeeded the 70 Disciples that this order hath bin maintained in the Church from the time of the Apostles And herein he appealed to the judgement of Antiquity or of any learned man now living if any could speak to the contrary c. In giving our severall suffrages the same exception was seconded by the rest of us Collegues partly by other allegations and partly by briefe reference to this declaration made communi nomine by our Leader To this our exception and allegations not one word was answered by any of the Synodiques either Strangers or Provincialls So that herein we may seeme to have had either their consent implied by silence or at least approbation of our just and necessary performance of our bounden duty to that Church whereunto they all afforded no small respect though differing in government from their severall Churches Herein perhaps by some we might be deemed rather to have gone too farre in contestation and upbraiding quasi in as the Civill Magistrate and Ministery there with undue forme of government of that Church whose doctrine onely was offered to our opinions But on the contrary part it hath bin suggested here at home by some that herein wee came short of our duty that we ought to have stepped yet farther by exhibiting in writing a formall Protestation to bee entred and kept by the Actuary of the Synode Whereto we answer First that the course there taken for the manner of delivering our judgements was not as in the 5 Questions controverted by subscription but onely by vocall suffrage which gave no oportunitie of putting in a written Protestation whereas if we had subscribed our names unto that Confession we would infallibly have added with the same penn our exception against the Articles concerning Discipline Secondly in that vocall proceeding had we been overborn by the multitude of their voyces or receiued any grievance or affront from them touching Discipline we would have releeved our just cause either by written Protestation or better meanes But when as neither the Civill Magistrate in whose hearing our exceptions were constantly uttered did gain-say us nor any of the Divines in the Synode once opened their mouths either in offence of our government or defence of their owne what needed we to redouble our stroke upon those that turned not upon us Rixa suam finem cum silet bostis habet Peradventure some hot spirit would not have rested in a formall recorded Protestation neither but would have charged those Churches to blot those Articles out of their Confession and forthwith to reforme their government otherwise not have yeelded approbation to any Article of Doctrine as there comprised but renounced the Synode and shaken off from his feet the dust of Dort I have nothing to doe with your Conclusions I have no part nor portion in them What ends you have how things are caryed I cannot tell nor care We confesse we were and are of another minde our owne dispositions and the directions of our blessed Peace-making King kept us from kindling new fires where we had worke enough to quench the old We then thought and so still in our consciences are confident that we forgat not our duty to our venerable and sacred Mother the Church of England but tooke a course conformable to the rules as wel of filiall observance as of Christian moderation And even then according to our custome of weekly transmitting into England briefe narrations of the proceedings in each severall Session to be imparted to his Majesty we by the next messenger sent our relation hereof as no whit ashamed of our deportment herein Which because it was then framed when we did not imagine that any quarrell would be picked against us for more impartiall and unpassionate attestation is here inserted as much as concerneth that particular 1619. April 29 stylo novo Sessione 144 pomeridiana Gregorius Martine unus ex politic is ad Synodum delegatis Hagâ jam recens reversus narrat quanto Dni Ordines gaudio afficiantur de singulorum in Canonibus sanciendis unamini consensu Eo nomine Theologis cùm exteris tum Provincialibus gratias habere eorum Domniationes ob labores Synodicos exantlatos Proximo in loco postulare vt Confessio Belgica perlustretur ita tamen vt sine gravi causa nihil immutetur nec phrasium Grammaticarum argutijs curiosè insistatur In eadem judicijs Synodicorum subjiciuntur tantùm ea quae doctrinam spectant omissis prorsus ijs que disciplinam Intercurrit quaestio de authentico exemplari Sumitur illud quod in Ecclesiarum reformatarum Confessionibus habetur Totum perlegitur pretermissis qui disciplinam Ecclesiasticam attinent articulis Sessio 145. April 30. antemeridiana Rogantur de hac Confessione suffragia Dominus Episcopus Landavensis omnia doctrinae capita probat Interea tamen de disciplina paucis monet Nunquàm in Ecclesia obtinuisse Ministrorum paritatem non tempore Christi ipsius tunc enim duodecim Apostolos fuisse Discipulis superiores non Apostolorum aetate non subsequutis seculis Nec valere rationem in hac Confessione usurpatam nempe quia omnes sunt aequè ministri Christi Nam 70 discipuli erant Ministri Christi aequè ac Apostoli non tamen inde Apostolis