discusser_n if_o it_o be_v say_v neither_o the_o roman_a caesar_n nor_o herod_n nor_o pilate_n know_v aught_o of_o the_o true_a god_n or_o of_o christ_n and_o it_o have_v be_v in_o vain_a to_o have_v make_v complaint_n to_o they_o who_o be_v not_o fit_a and_o competent_a but_o ignorant_a and_o opposite_a judge_n answ_n 1._o this_o remove_v the_o stumble_a block_n of_o paul_n appeal_n to_o caesar_n which_o since_o he_o can_v not_o do_v in_o common_a sense_n as_o to_o a_o competent_a judge_n in_o such_o case_n etc._n etc._n it_o must_v needs_o follow_v his_o appeal_n be_v mere_o in_o respect_n of_o his_o civil_a wrong_n etc._n etc._n answ_n 2._o if_o it_o have_v be_v a_o ordinance_n of_o god_n that_o all_o civil_a magistrate_n be_v bind_v to_o judge_v in_o cause_n spiritual_a and_o christian_n as_o to_o suppress_v heresy_n to_o defend_v the_o faith_n of_o jesus_n although_o that_o caesar_n herod_n and_o pontius_n pilate_n be_v ignorant_a wicked_a and_o opposite_a judge_n yet_o christ_n and_o his_o disciple_n shall_v have_v go_v as_o far_o as_o lay_v in_o their_o power_n for_o redress_v of_o evil_a and_o leave_v it_o in_o the_o magistrate_n hand_n answ_n 3._o if_o it_o have_v be_v the_o holy_a will_n of_o god_n to_o have_v establish_v the_o doctrine_n and_o kingdom_n of_o his_o son_n this_o way_n he_o will_v have_v furnish_v kingdom_n and_o commonwealth_n with_o many_o good_a and_o gracious_a magistrate_n to_o have_v fit_v they_o for_o it_o defender_n reply_v 1._o to_o ans_fw-fr 1._o paul_n appeal_n to_o caesar_n be_v about_o the_o wrong_n do_v unto_o the_o jew_n act_n 25.10_o the_o wrong_n to_o they_o be_v not_o only_o civil_a but_o church-offence_n which_o paul_n deny_v neither_o against_o the_o law_n of_o the_o jew_n say_v he_o nor_o against_o the_o temple_n nor_o against_o caesar_n have_v i_o offend_v any_o thing_n at_o all_o ver_fw-la 8._o festus_n demand_v if_o he_o will_v go_v up_o to_o jerusalem_n there_o to_o be_v judge_v of_o these_o thing_n ver_fw-la 9_o these_o thing_n be_v matter_n of_o religion_n as_o well_o as_o civil_a offence_n to_o offend_v against_o the_o law_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o against_o the_o temple_n be_v offence_n against_o religion_n to_o offend_v against_o caesar_n be_v a_o civil_a offence_n to_o be_v judge_v of_o these_o thing_n paul_n decline_v the_o court_n at_o jerusalem_n as_o be_v unjust_o prejudice_v against_o he_o but_o profess_v his_o own_o innocency_n and_o subjection_n to_o just_a judgement_n he_o appeal_v to_o caesar_n judgement_n seat_n ver_fw-la 10_o 11._o whereinis_fw-la three_o or_o four_o thing_n do_v evident_o appear_v 1._o that_o a_o man_n may_v be_v such_o a_o offender_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n against_o the_o law_n of_o god_n against_o the_o church_n as_o well_o as_o in_o civil_a matter_n against_o caesar_n as_o to_o be_v worthy_a of_o death_n this_o paul_n presuppose_v ver_fw-la 8_o 9_o 10._o 2._o that_o paul_n or_o any_o other_o such_o like_a servant_n of_o christ_n if_o he_o shall_v commit_v any_o such_o offence_n he_o will_v not_o refuse_v judgement_n unto_o death_n ver_fw-la 11._o 3._o that_o for_o the_o judgement_n of_o his_o person_n in_o these_o cause_n whether_o ecclesiastical_a or_o civil_a it_o be_v lawful_a in_o some_o case_n to_o appeal_v to_o a_o civil_a though_o a_o pagan_a magistrate_n in_o some_o case_n i_o say_v as_o where_o both_o these_o concur_v to_o wit_n 1._o that_o church-officer_n be_v malicious_o prejudice_v against_o a_o man_n and_o inferior_a civil_a court_n incline_v to_o they_o 2._o that_o a_o man_n be_v call_v in_o question_n among_o they_o in_o capital_a cause_n which_o concern_v his_o life_n but_o a_o four_o thing_n which_o appear_v from_o paul_n appeal_n be_v this_o that_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n whether_o christian_a or_o pagan_a may_v and_o aught_o to_o be_v so_o well_o acquaint_v not_o only_o with_o civil_a cause_n but_o also_o with_o cause_n of_o religion_n especial_o such_o as_o concern_v life_n as_o to_o be_v able_a to_o judge_v though_o not_o of_o all_o question_n yet_o of_o capital_a offence_n against_o religion_n as_o well_o as_o against_o the_o civil_a state_n reply_v 2._o to_o ans_fw-fr 2._o the_o marginal_a note_n seem_v to_o imply_v a_o contradiction_n to_o itself_o for_o thus_o it_o speak_v civil_a magistrate_n be_v never_o appoint_v by_o god_n defender_n of_o the_o faith_n of_o jesus_n and_o again_o every_o one_o be_v bind_v to_o put_v forth_o himself_o to_o his_o utmost_a power_n in_o god_n business_n sure_o if_o every_o one_o be_v bind_v to_o put_v forth_o himself_o to_o his_o utmost_a power_n in_o god_n business_n then_o civil_a magistrate_n be_v bind_v to_o put_v forth_o their_o civil_a power_n in_o defend_v the_o faith_n of_o jesus_n neither_o will_v it_o henceforth_o follow_v that_o either_o christ_n or_o his_o disciple_n be_v bind_v to_o complain_v to_o caesar_n or_o to_o herod_n or_o to_o pontius_n pilate_n against_o the_o heresy_n of_o the_o pharise_n for_o though_o all_o magistrate_n even_o pagan_n ought_v to_o inform_v themselves_o in_o the_o matter_n of_o faith_n and_o of_o christian_a religion_n that_o they_o may_v observe_v and_o preserve_v it_o and_o it_o will_v be_v a_o destructive_a sin_n to_o they_o and_o their_o state_n if_o they_o do_v neglect_v it_o psal_n 2.10_o 11_o 12._o yet_o it_o may_v be_v safe_a for_o a_o christian_a man_n be_v oppress_v in_o inferior_a court_n of_o heretical_a malignant_a judge_n to_o appeal_v from_o they_o unto_o pagan_a prince_n in_o his_o own_o just_a defence_n then_o to_o make_v complaint_n to_o malignant_a heretical_a judge_n or_o to_o pagan_a prince_n against_o heresy_n or_o heretical_a false_a teaclier_n christ_n send_v out_o his_o disciple_n as_o sheep_n among_o wolf_n and_o therefore_o instruct_v they_o to_o be_v wise_a as_o serpent_n and_o innocent_a as_o dove_n matth._n 10.16_o now_o it_o be_v no_o part_n of_o wisdom_n for_o a_o sheep_n of_o christ_n to_o complain_v to_o a_o kennel_n of_o wolf_n that_o among_o the_o wolf_n there_o be_v some_o of_o their_o company_n do_v make_v havoc_n of_o the_o sheep_n lead_v they_o aside_o into_o damnable_a heresy_n if_o a_o poor_a sheep_n shall_v attempt_v such_o a_o thing_n will_v not_o the_o whole_a kennel_n of_o wolf_n arise_v up_o against_o he_o as_o a_o troubler_n of_o their_o state_n that_o when_o he_o enjoy_v peace_n himself_o they_o trouble_v not_o he_o yet_o he_o will_v needs_o be_v so_o busy_a as_o to_o trouble_v they_o and_o therefore_o we_o deny_v that_o it_o have_v tend_v to_o the_o defence_n of_o the_o faith_n of_o jesus_n or_o to_o the_o suppress_n heresy_n for_o christ_n and_o his_o disciple_n to_o have_v complain_v to_o herod_n pilate_n caesar_n of_o the_o heresy_n of_o the_o pharise_n it_o have_v rather_o tend_v to_o the_o disturbance_n and_o suppression_n of_o the_o faith_n of_o jesus_n by_o provoke_v the_o malice_n of_o the_o pharise_n and_o by_o disquiet_v civil_a throne_n with_o fear_n and_o jealousy_n of_o a_o new_a kingdom_n spring_v 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christ_n need_v not_o to_o send_v good_a and_o gracious_a magistrate_n as_o if_o for_o want_n of_o they_o the_o christian_a faith_n and_o religion_n will_v fall_v to_o the_o ground_n for_o it_o have_v spread_v and_o flourish_v under_o fiery_a and_o cruel_a persecution_n but_o yet_o this_o hinder_v not_o but_o that_o it_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o magistrate_n to_o know_v the_o son_n and_o to_o kiss_v he_o to_o acknowledge_v his_o kingdom_n and_o submit_v their_o throne_n and_o crown_n to_o it_o to_o love_v his_o truth_n and_o to_o be_v nurse_v father_n to_o his_o church_n isai_n 49.23_o which_o how_o they_o can_v do_v and_o yet_o not_o be_v defender_n of_o the_o faith_n of_o jesus_n i_o do_v not_o understand_v chap._n 31._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o thirteen_o chapter_n discuss_v by_o the_o way_n the_o
confusion_n in_o the_o civil_a state_n to_o punish_v such_o discusser_n woe_n be_v it_o with_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n if_o together_o with_o the_o common_a care_n and_o charge_n of_o the_o commonwealth_n the_o blood_n of_o every_o soul_n that_o perish_v shall_v cry_v against_o he_o unless_o he_o shall_v say_v with_o paul_n act_v 20._o i_o be_o clear_a from_o the_o blood_n of_o all_o man_n etc._n etc._n defender_n it_o be_v not_o the_o blood_n of_o every_o soul_n that_o perish_v that_o can_v cry_v against_o a_o magistrate_n unless_o the_o soul_n perish_v by_o some_o such_o neglect_n of_o duty_n in_o the_o magistrate_n which_o god_n require_v of_o he_o for_o the_o good_a of_o the_o soul_n of_o his_o people_n of_o which_o duty_n there_o be_v two_o sort_n 1._o to_o seek_v out_o and_o procure_v mean_n of_o grace_n for_o they_o so_o far_o as_o they_o be_v capable_a in_o god_n way_n 2._o to_o remove_v mean_n of_o their_o corruption_n and_o pollution_n such_o as_o idol_n open_o erect_v and_o idolatrous_a false_a teacher_n pervert_v the_o people_n if_o in_o both_o these_o the_o magistrate_n be_v faithful_a though_o thousand_o of_o soul_n may_v perish_v under_o his_o government_n yet_o he_o be_v innocent_a from_o the_o blood_n of_o they_o all_o and_o may_v so_o profess_v with_o paul_n discusser_n i_o acknowledge_v the_o magistrate_n ought_v to_o cherish_v as_o a_o foster_n father_n the_o lord_n jesus_n in_o his_o truth_n in_o his_o saint_n to_o cleave_v unto_o they_o himself_o to_o countenance_v they_o unto_o the_o death_n yea_o also_o to_o break_v the_o tooth_n of_o the_o lion_n who_o offer_v civil_a violence_n and_o injury_n unto_o they_o but_o to_o see_v all_o his_o subject_n christian_n to_o keep_v such_o a_o church_n or_o christian_n in_o the_o purity_n of_o worship_n and_o see_v they_o do_v their_o duty_n this_o belong_v to_o the_o head_n of_o the_o body_n the_o lord_n jesus_n and_o such_o spiritual_a officer_n as_o he_o have_v to_o this_o purpose_n depute_v 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but_o the_o roman_a popish_a bishop_n that_o like_o ravenous_a wolf_n devour_v their_o soul_n leave_v the_o church_n of_o christ_n scarce_o visible_a though_o visible_a and_o they_o a_o very_a small_a remnant_n though_o a_o remnant_n it_o may_v be_v matter_n of_o just_a wonderment_n why_o antichrist_n shall_v find_v more_o favour_n in_o the_o discusser_n eye_n than_o a_o ignorant_a pagan_n when_o the_o one_o hate_v christ_n more_o bitter_o and_o make_v far_o more_o waste_a of_o the_o church_n and_o saint_n of_o christ_n then_o do_v the_o other_o be_v it_o because_o his_o own_o spirit_n do_v more_o symbolize_v with_o antichrist_n then_o with_o caesar_n rather_o in_o secret_a supplant_n then_o in_o open_a persecute_v the_o church_n and_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n beply_n 3._o we_o do_v not_o say_v that_o it_o be_v a_o part_n of_o the_o magistrate_n duty_n to_o see_v all_o his_o subject_n to_o become_v christian_n if_o they_o be_v pagan_n before_o though_o we_o say_v it_o be_v his_o duty_n to_o neglect_v no_o good_a mean_n to_o help_v they_o onward_o to_o the_o knowledge_n and_o faith_n of_o christ_n jesus_n but_o why_o do_v the_o discusser_n shake_v this_o duty_n out_o of_o the_o magistrate_n to_o see_v that_o the_o church_n and_o the_o christian_n under_o his_o government_n shall_v walk_v in_o purity_n of_o worship_n at_o least_o not_o so_o far_o to_o degenerate_v and_o apostate_n as_o to_o provoke_v christ_n to_o depart_v from_o they_o can_v he_o hope_v that_o such_o christian_n will_v be_v faithful_a and_o loyal_a to_o their_o prince_n who_o he_o see_v to_o grow_v false_a and_o disloyal_a to_o their_o god_n sure_o the_o land_n of_o ishmael_n though_o it_o have_v some_o peculiar_a and_z and_o typical_a holiness_n belong_v to_o it_o yet_o no_o other_o than_o what_o do_v prefigure_v the_o holiness_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v as_o holy_a to_o christ_n and_o aught_o to_o be_v as_o holy_a to_o we_o as_o the_o land_n of_o israel_n be_v to_o they_o if_o therefore_o it_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o jehosaphat_n hezekiah_n and_o isaiah_n to_o reduce_v the_o people_n of_o israel_n from_o their_o backslide_n because_o they_o be_v a_o holy_a people_n 2_o chron._n 19.4_o sure_o the_o like_a duty_n lie_v upon_o all_o godly_a christian_a prince_n to_o reduce_v their_o backslide_a church_n to_o their_o primitive_a purity_n let_v no_o man_n say_v that_o as_o the_o holy_a land_n of_o israel_n be_v a_o type_n of_o holy_a church_n so_o these_o prince_n be_v type_n of_o the_o lord_n jesus_n to_o who_o alone_o it_o belong_v to_o see_v church_n and_o christian_n to_o do_v their_o duty_n in_o purity_n of_o worship_n for_o though_o david_n and_o solomon_n be_v type_n of_o christ_n and_o so_o the_o scripture_n hold_v they_o forth_o yet_o the_o scripture_n give_v no_o hint_n that_o the_o other_o king_n either_o of_o israel_n or_o judah_n be_v type_n not_o of_o israel_n for_o they_o be_v all_o apostate_n nor_o of_o judah_n for_o if_o the_o king_n of_o judah_n 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to_o the_o soul_n and_o conscience_n of_o man_n second_o that_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n do_v not_o use_v the_o arm_n of_o secular_a power_n to_o compel_v man_n to_o the_o true_a profession_n of_o the_o truth_n for_o this_o be_v to_o be_v do_v with_o spiritual_a weapon_n whereby_o christian_n be_v to_o be_v exhort_v and_o compel_v but_o this_o say_v he_o hinder_v not_o that_o christian_n sin_v against_o the_o light_n of_o faith_n and_o conscience_n may_v just_o be_v censure_v of_o the_o church_n by_o excommunication_n and_o of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n also_o in_o case_n they_o shall_v corrupt_v other_o to_o the_o perdition_n of_o their_o soul_n this_o joint-confession_n of_o the_o answerer_n with_o luther_n to_o wit_n that_o the_o government_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n extend_v no_o further_a than_o over_o the_o body_n and_o good_n of_o their_o subject_n not_o over_o their_o soul_n who_o see_v not_o that_o hereby_o be_v give_v a_o clear_a testimony_n that_o either_o the_o 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may_v expect_v a_o blessing_n when_o their_o soul_n prosper_v though_o god_n may_v keep_v his_o saint_n low_a in_o outward_a estate_n that_o grow_v fast_o in_o godliness_n yet_o sure_a godliness_n have_v the_o promise_n of_o this_o life_n and_o of_o a_o better_a 1_o tim._n 4.8_o and_o such_o as_o first_o seek_v the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n may_v expect_v all_o these_o outward_a thing_n to_o be_v cast_v in_o upon_o they_o if_o it_o seem_v a_o monstrous_a thing_n in_o the_o eye_n of_o the_o discusser_n to_o imagine_v that_o the_o good_a estate_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o well-ordering_a of_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n therein_o shall_v concern_v the_o civil_a good_a of_o the_o commonwealth_n it_o may_v well_o seem_v monstrous_a to_o he_o to_o imagine_v that_o the_o flourish_a of_o religion_n be_v the_o flourish_a of_o the_o civil_a state_n and_o the_o decay_n of_o religion_n be_v the_o decay_n and_o ruin_n of_o the_o civil_a state_n but_o such_o virgin_n soul_n as_o follow_v the_o 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prince_n as_o do_v thus_o build_v up_o he_o discusser_n again_o necessary_o it_o must_v follow_v that_o these_o two_o be_v contradictory_n to_o themselves_o which_o yet_o both_o of_o they_o be_v mr._n cotton_v position_n the_o magistrate_n power_n extend_v no_o further_a than_o to_o the_o body_n and_o good_n of_o the_o subject_a and_o yet_o the_o magistrate_n must_v punish_v christian_n for_o sin_v against_o the_o light_n of_o faith_n and_o conscience_n and_o for_o corrupt_v the_o soul_n of_o man_n defender_n if_o the_o christian_a faith_n and_o a_o good_a conscience_n be_v a_o part_n and_o a_o great_a part_n a_o chief_a part_n of_o the_o good_a of_o christian_n than_o these_o two_o be_v so_o far_o from_o contradict_v one_o another_o that_o they_o establish_v one_o another_o for_o if_o a_o magistrate_n power_n extend_v to_o the_o preserve_n of_o the_o good_n of_o the_o subject_a and_o to_o the_o punishment_n of_o the_o impeacher_n or_o purloyner_n thereof_o then_o he_o fall_v short_a of_o his_o duty_n if_o he_o suffer_v their_o faith_n and_o good_a conscience_n to_o be_v corrupt_v or_o despoil_v without_o revenge_n again_o this_o i_o say_v further_o which_o also_o will_v easy_o avoid_v appearance_n of_o contradiction_n suppose_v by_o good_n be_v mean_v only_o outward_a good_n and_o that_o the_o magistrate_n power_n extend_v no_o further_o than_o the_o body_n and_o good_n of_o the_o subject_n yet_o though_o he_o have_v no_o power_n over_o faith_n and_o conscience_n he_o have_v nevertheless_o lawful_a power_n to_o punish_v such_o evil_a doer_n in_o their_o body_n and_o good_n as_o do_v seduce_v his_o people_n to_o make_v shipwreck_n of_o faith_n and_o a_o good_a conscience_n for_o in_o seek_v god_n kingdom_n and_o righteousness_n man_n prosper_v in_o their_o outward_a estate_n matth._n 6.33_o otherways_o they_o decay_n beside_o i_o do_v not_o remember_v that_o this_o proposition_n be_v any_o of_o i_o which_o yet_o the_o discusser_n fasten_v upon_o i_o that_o the_o magistrate_n power_n extend_v no_o further_a than_o the_o body_n and_o good_n of_o his_o subject_n i_o do_v not_o deny_v the_o truth_n of_o it_o right_o understand_v but_o it_o seem_v to_o i_o somewhat_o too_o loose_a and_o confuse_a for_o i_o to_o own_o it_o as_o my_o own_o for_o the_o magistrate_n power_n may_v be_v say_v to_o extend_v no_o further_o than_o the_o body_n and_o good_n of_o his_o subject_n either_o as_o the_o subject_a of_o his_o power_n or_o as_o the_o end_n of_o his_o power_n if_o good_n be_v mean_v outward_a good_n and_o the_o magistrate_n power_n be_v say_v to_o extend_v no_o further_o then_o to_o the_o body_n and_o good_n of_o his_o subject_n as_o to_o the_o object_n of_o his_o power_n the_o position_n be_v true_a but_o if_o it_o be_v mean_v of_o the_o end_n of_o his_o power_n as_o if_o a_o magistrate_n power_n reach_v no_o further_o then_o to_o the_o preservation_n of_o their_o body_n and_o outward_a good_n it_o be_v false_a for_o the_o adequate_a end_n of_o the_o magistrate_n power_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d benè_fw-la administrare_fw-la rempublicam_fw-la well_o to_o govern_v the_o commonwealth_n now_o can_v it_o be_v well_o with_o a_o commonwealth_n that_o live_v in_o bodily_a health_n and_o worldly_a wealth_n but_o yet_o without_o church_n without_o christ_n without_o god_n in_o the_o world_n but_o though_o god_n for_o a_o time_n may_v preserve_v a_o civil_a state_n in_o health_n and_o wealth_n through_o his_o patience_n and_o bounty_n especial_o till_o mean_n of_o grace_n be_v offer_v to_o they_o yet_o after_o mean_n of_o grace_n be_v offer_v they_o can_v long_o expect_v bodily_a health_n or_o wealth_n to_o be_v continue_v to_o they_o if_o they_o neglect_v or_o despise_v or_o depart_v from_o so_o great_a salvation_n witness_v the_o roman_a empire_n which_o though_o it_o
under_o they_o but_o they_o all_o be_v stranger_n from_o the_o life_n of_o god_n yea_o most_o averse_a and_o opposite_a yea_o cruel_a and_o bloody_a persecutor_n of_o the_o name_n and_o follower_n of_o jesus_n and_o yet_o unto_o these_o be_v subjection_n command_v now_o than_o i_o argue_v if_o paul_n have_v command_v this_o subjection_n to_o roman_a magistrate_n in_o spiritual_a cause_n to_o defend_v the_o truth_n to_o punish_v heretic_n neither_o of_o which_o they_o can_v discern_v nor_o judge_v of_o but_o by_o trust_n from_o other_o as_o pilate_n condemn_v jesus_n he_o must_v in_o the_o judgement_n of_o all_o man_n have_v put_v out_o the_o eye_n of_o faith_n and_o reason_n and_o sense_n at_o once_o defender_n not_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o all_o man_n for_o beside_o calvin_n and_o beza_n who_o judgement_n you_o have_v hear_v all_o those_o interpreter_n who_o expound_v this_o place_n in_o the_o roman_n of_o the_o magistrate_n power_n in_o punish_v spiritual_a evil_a doer_n as_o well_o as_o corporal_a they_o none_o of_o they_o do_v so_o judge_v that_o paul_n in_o command_v the_o church_n to_o yield_v subjection_n unto_o civil_a magistrate_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n do_v put_v out_o the_o eye_n of_o faith_n and_o reason_n and_o sense_n at_o once_o for_o first_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o yield_v subjection_n to_o the_o unrighteous_a decree_n of_o ignorant_a and_o pagan_a magistrate_n another_o thing_n to_o obey_v their_o ordinance_n in_o matter_n of_o faith_n and_o worship_n and_o government_n of_o the_o church_n the_o former_a of_o these_o christian_n do_v yield_v unto_o the_o roman_a magistrate_n even_o subjection_n unto_o the_o death_n the_o other_o they_o neither_o do_v nor_o aught_o to_o yield_v as_o know_v god_n be_v to_o be_v obey_v rather_o than_o man_n second_o though_o it_o be_v true_a whilst_o the_o roman_a emperor_n and_o magistrate_n be_v pagan_n and_o persecutor_n they_o be_v incompetent_a judge_n to_o discern_v and_o give_v sentence_n in_o the_o spiritual_a matter_n of_o christian_a religion_n yet_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n who_o command_v a_o duty_n command_v all_o the_o necessary_a mean_n which_o tend_v to_o that_o duty_n and_o therefore_o in_o give_v they_o a_o power_n and_o charge_n to_o execute_v vengeance_n on_o evil_a doer_n and_o that_o in_o matter_n of_o spiritual_a unrighteousness_n against_o the_o church_n as_o in_o matter_n of_o civil_a unrighteousness_n against_o the_o commonwealth_n it_o behove_v they_o to_o inquire_v and_o listen_v after_o true_a religion_n to_o hear_v and_o try_v all_o and_o upon_o serious_a deliberate_a and_o just_a scrute_v to_o hold_v fast_o that_o which_o be_v good_a and_o so_o prevent_v the_o disturbance_n thereof_o by_o the_o contrary_n it_o be_v no_o vain_a charge_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n psal_n 2_o 10_o 11_o 12._o if_o christ_n have_v a_o iron_n sceptre_n in_o his_o hand_n to_o crush_v all_o state_n and_o kingdom_n emperor_n and_o prince_n as_o well_o as_o private_a person_n be_v wise_a now_o therefore_o o_o you_o king_n be_v instruct_v you_o that_o be_v judge_n of_o the_o earth_n serve_v the_o lord_n with_o fear_n rejoice_v unto_o he_o with_o tremble_v kiss_v the_o son_n lest_o he_o be_v angry_a and_o you_o perish_v in_o the_o way_n three_o the_o case_n of_o religion_n wherein_o we_o allow_v civil_a magistrate_n to_o be_v judge_n be_v so_o fundamental_a and_o palpable_a that_o no_o magistrate_n studious_a of_o religion_n in_o the_o fear_n of_o god_n but_o if_o he_o have_v any_o spiritual_a discern_a as_o all_o true_o christian_a magistrate_n have_v and_o even_o pagan_n have_v discern_v between_o innocent_a christian_n and_o turbulent_a seducer_n he_o can_v but_o judge_v of_o such_o gross_a corruption_n as_o be_v unsufferable_a in_o religion_n as_o have_v be_v open_v above_o though_o we_o reserve_v to_o the_o prophet_n and_o church_n judicium_fw-la propheticum_fw-la as_o have_v be_v say_v above_o yet_o we_o allow_v judicium_fw-la politicum_fw-la to_o civil_a magistrate_n studious_a of_o truth_n as_o all_o aught_o to_o be_v and_o the_o judgement_n of_o discretion_n unto_o all_o christian_n but_o as_o for_o such_o magigistrate_n as_o be_v mere_o natural_a and_o pagan_a though_o christian_n be_v bind_v to_o subject_v themselves_o unto_o they_o with_o patience_n yet_o such_o magistrate_n ought_v to_o forbear_v the_o exercise_n of_o their_o power_n either_o in_o protect_v or_o punish_v matter_n of_o religion_n till_o they_o have_v learn_v so_o much_o knowledge_n of_o the_o truth_n as_o may_v enable_v they_o to_o discern_v of_o thing_n that_o differ_v but_o this_o forbearance_n of_o they_o be_v not_o for_o want_v of_o authority_n in_o their_o calling_n nor_o for_o want_v of_o duty_n in_o their_o conscience_n but_o for_o want_v of_o evidence_n to_o they_o in_o the_o cause_n in_o which_o case_n magistrate_n be_v wont_a to_o forbear_v their_o exercise_n of_o their_o power_n and_o to_o respite_n judgement_n even_o in_o civil_a cause_n not_o for_o want_v of_o authority_n or_o duty_n to_o do_v justice_n but_o for_o want_v of_o ripe_a and_o full_a cognizance_n of_o the_o cause_n chap._n 49._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o chap._n 49._o discusser_n why_o then_o do_v paul_n himself_o appeal_v to_o caesar_n act_n 25._o unless_o that_o caesar_n though_o he_o be_v not_o yet_o yet_o he_o ought_v to_o have_v be_v a_o fit_a judge_n in_o such_o matter_n answ_n paul_n appeal_v to_o caesar_n not_o to_o judge_v the_o cause_n of_o his_o religion_n but_o to_o defend_v he_o from_o civil_a violence_n and_o slanderous_a accusation_n about_o sedition_n mutiny_n civil_a disobedience_n etc._n etc._n from_o which_o caesar_n as_o a_o supreme_a civil_a magistrate_n ought_v to_o defend_v he_o defender_n this_o appeal_n of_o paul_n to_o caesar_n do_v evident_o hold_v forth_o three_o thing_n 1._o that_o there_o be_v a_o lawful_a and_o needful_a use_n of_o civil_a magistracy_n unto_o christian_n 2._o that_o church_n officer_n even_o of_o high_a rank_n the_o apostle_n themselves_o and_o other_o minister_n be_v subject_a to_o civil_a authority_n as_o well_o as_o private_a christian_n 3._o that_o paul_n do_v submit_v to_o caesar_n judgement-seate_n the_o trial_n of_o his_o innocency_n as_o well_o in_o matter_n of_o religion_n as_o in_o civil_a conversation_n for_o he_o plead_v his_o innocency_n that_o he_o be_v guilty_a in_o none_o of_o those_o thing_n whereof_o they_o do_v accuse_v he_o and_o for_o trial_n hereof_o he_o appeal_v to_o caesar_n ver_fw-la 11._o now_o the_o thing_n whereof_o they_o do_v accuse_v he_o be_v offence_n against_o the_o law_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o against_o the_o temple_n as_o well_o as_o against_o caesar_n ver_fw-la 8._o and_o offence_n against_o the_o law_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o against_o the_o temple_n be_v matter_n of_o religion_n and_o yet_o even_o in_o these_o paul_n appeal_v to_o caesar_n judgement-seat_n for_o trial_n of_o his_o innocency_n discusser_n but_o if_o paul_n in_o this_o appeal_v to_o caesar_n 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spare_v and_o pity_v the_o like_a tempter_n in_o day_n of_o old_a deut._n 13.8_o chap._n 66._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o chap._n 69._o discusser_n the_o answer_n by_o concession_n to_o hilaryes_n word_n may_v surth_o be_v discuss_v it_o be_v true_a say_v the_o answerer_n as_o hylary_n speak_v that_o neither_o the_o apostle_n nor_o we_o may_v propagate_v christian_a religion_n by_o the_o sword_n but_o if_o pagan_n can_v be_v win_v by_o the_o word_n they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v compel_v by_o the_o sword_n nevertheless_o this_o hinder_v not_o but_o if_o they_o or_o any_o other_o shall_v blaspheme_v the_o true_a god_n and_o his_o true_a religion_n they_o ought_v to_o be_v severe_o punish_v and_o no_o less_o do_v they_o deserve_v who_o seduce_v from_o the_o truth_n to_o damnable_a heresy_n and_o idolatry_n in_o which_o answer_n i_o observe_v first_o his_o agreement_n with_o hilary_n that_o christian_a
abound_v in_o worldly_a blessing_n till_o the_o lord_n jesus_n come_v ride_v forth_o among_o they_o upon_o a_o white_a horse_n of_o the_o gospel_n of_o his_o grace_n yet_o after_o they_o neglect_v so_o great_a salvation_n than_o follow_v a_o red_a horse_n of_o war_n and_o a_o black_a horse_n of_o famine_n and_o a_o pale_a horse_n of_o pestilence_n and_o other_o judgement_n which_o much_o impeach_v both_o the_o health_n and_o wealth_n of_o that_o state_n and_o will_v have_v ruin_v it_o have_v it_o not_o cast_v away_o her_o idol_n and_o advance_v the_o sceptre_n of_o the_o lord_n jesus_n now_o the_o god_n of_o all_o grace_n be_v please_v at_o length_n to_o shake_v the_o heart_n of_o this_o discusser_n that_o he_o may_v not_o thus_o delight_v to_o seduce_v himself_o and_o other_o against_o the_o light_n of_o grace_n and_o conscience_n against_o reason_n and_o experience_n discusser_n again_o in_o the_o answerers_n joint-confession_n with_o luther_n that_o the_o church_n do_v not_o use_v the_o secular_a power_n to_o compel_v man_n to_o the_o faith_n and_o profession_n of_o the_o truth_n he_o condemn_v as_o before_o i_o have_v observe_v 1._o his_o former_a implication_n that_o they_o may_v be_v compel_v when_o they_o be_v convince_v of_o the_o truth_n of_o it_o defender_n this_o implication_n where_o it_o be_v former_o observe_v it_o have_v be_v former_o clear_v from_o implication_n of_o contradiction_n i_o have_v never_o say_v that_o after_o man_n be_v convince_v of_o the_o truth_n they_o may_v be_v compel_v to_o the_o profession_n of_o it_o by_o any_o penalty_n but_o only_o by_o withdraw_v such_o favour_n as_o be_v not_o comely_a or_o safe_a for_o faithless_a person_n discusser_n 2._o he_o condemn_v their_o own_o practice_n who_o suffer_v no_o man_n of_o any_o different_a conscience_n and_o worship_n to_o live_v in_o their_o jurisdiction_n unless_o he_o depart_v from_o the_o exercise_n of_o his_o own_o religion_n and_o worship_n differ_v from_o that_o allow_v of_o 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