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A66445 The blovdy tenent, of persecution, for cause of conscience, discussed, in a conference betweene trvth and peace vvho, in all tender affection, present to the high court of Parliament, as the result of their discourse, these, amongst other passages, of highest consideration. Williams, Roger, 1604?-1683.; Cotton, John, 1584-1652. 1644 (1644) Wing W2758; ESTC R2405 232,471 275

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their native Country where the Magistrate consented not they forbore to practice such Ordinances as now they doe and intended to doe so soone as they got into another place where they might set up Magistrates of their owne and a Civill Sword c. How much is it to be feared that in case their Magistracie should alter or their persons be cast under a Magistracie prohibiting their practice whether they would then maintaine their separate meetings without and against the consent of the Magistrate renuente Magistratu Lastly it may be questioned how it comes to passe that in pleading for the Churches liberty more now under the Christian Magistrate since the Christians tooke that liberty in dangerous times under the Heathen why he quotes to prove such liberty Pharaohs hindring the Israelites from worship and Ezra 7. 23. Artaxerxes his feare of wrath upon the Realme Are not all their hopes and arguments built upon the Christian Magistrate whom say they the first Christians wanted and yet do they scare the Christian Magistrate whom they account the governour of the Church with Pharaoh and Artaxerxes that knew not God expecting that the Christian Magistrate should act and command no more in Gods worship then they But what can those instances of Pharaohs evill in hindring the Israelites worshipping of God and Artaxerxes giving liberty to Israel to worship God and build the Temple what can they prove but a duty in all P●●ces and Civill Magistrates to take off the yoake of bondage which commonly they lay on the necks of the soules of their subjects in matters of Conscience and Religion CHAP. CXXXI Peace IT is plausible but not reasonable that Gods people should considering the drift of these positions expect more liberty under a Christian then under a Heathen Magistrate Have Gods people more liberty to breake the command of a Christian then an Heathen governour and so to set up Christs Church and Ordinances after their owne conscience against his consent more then against the consent of an Heathen or unbeleeving Magistrate what is become of all the great expectation what a Christian Magistrate may and ought to doe in establishing the Church in reforming the Church and in punishing the contrary 'T is true say men in Christs time and in the time of the first Ministers and Churches there were no Christian Magistrates and therefore in that case it was in vaine for Christians to seeke unto the Heathen Magistrates to governe the Church suppresse Hereticks c. but now we enjoy Christian Magistrates c. Truth All Reason and Religion would now expect more submission therefore in matters concerning Christ to a Christian Magistrate then to a Pagan or Antichristian rule●● But deare Peace the day will discover the fire will trie 1 Cor. 3. what is but wood hay and stubble though built in mens upright intention on that foundation Iesus Christ. But to winde up all as it is most true that Magistracy in generall is of God Rom. 13. for the preservation of Mankinde in civill order and peace the World otherwise would bee like the Sea wherein Men● like Fishes would hunt and devoure each other and the greater devour the lesse So also it is true that Magistracy in speciall for the severall kindes of it is of Man 1. Pet. 2. 13. Now what kinde of Magistrate soever the people shall agree to set up whether he receive Christianity before he be set in office or whether he receive Christianity after hee receives no more power of Magistracy then a Magistrate that hath received no Christianity For neither of them both can receive more then the Commonweal the Body of People and civill State as men communicate unto them and betrust with them All lawfull Magistrates in the World both before the comming of Christ Iesus and since excepting those unparaleld typicall Magistrates of the Church of Israel are but Derivatives and Agents immediately derived and employed as eyes and hands serving for the good of the whole Hence they have and can have no more Power then fundamentally lies in the Bodies or Fountaines themselves which Power Might or Authority is not Religious Christian c. but naturall humane and civill And hence it is true that a Christian Captaine Christian Merchant Physitian Lawyer Pilot Father Master and so consequently Magistra●e c. is no more a Captaine Merchant Physitian Lawyer Pilot Father Master Magistrate c. then a Captaine Marchant c. of any other Conscience or Religion T is true Christianity teacheth all these to act in their severall callings to an higher ultimate end from higher principles in a more heavenly and spirituall manner c. CHAP. CXXXII Peace O that thy Light and Brightnes deare Truth might shine to the darke World in this particular let it not therefore be grievous if I request a little further illustration of it Truth In his season God will glorifie himselfe in all his Truths but to gratifie thy desire thus A Pagan or Antichristian Pilot may be as skilfull to carry the Ship to its desired Port as any Christian Mariner or Pilot in the World and may performe that worke with as much safety and speed yet have they not command over the soules and consciences of their passengers or mariners under them although they may justly see to the labour of the one and the civill behaviour of all in the ship A Christian Pilot he performes the same worke as likewise doth the Metaphoricall Pilot in the ship of the Commonweale from a principle of knowledge and experience but more then this he acts from a roote of the feare of God and love to mankind in his whole course Secondly his aime is more to glorifie God then to gaine his pay or make his voyage Thirdly he walkes heavenly with Men and God in a constant observation of Gods hand in stormes calmes c. So th●t the thread of Navigation being equally spun by a believing or unbelieving Pilot yet is it drawn over with the gold of Godlines and Christianitie by a Christian Pilot while he is holy in all manner of Christianitie 1 Pet. 1 15. But lastly the Christian Pilots power over the Soules and consciences of his Sailers and Passengers is not greater then that of the Antichristian otherwise then he can subdue the soules of any by the two-edged sword of the Spirit the Word of God and by his holy demeanour in his place c. Peace I shall present you with no other consideratioon in this first part of the Picture but this only Although the tearme Heathen is most commonly appropriated to the wilde naked Americans c. yet these worthy men justly apply it even to the civilized Romanes c. and consequently must it be applied to the most civilized Antichristians who are not the Church and people of God in Christ. Truth The Word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in the Hebrew and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in
injoyne such devices no nor inforce on any Gods Institutions since Christ Iesus his comming Yet for further illustration I shall propose some Quaeries concerning the civill Magistrates passing in the ship of the Church wherein Christ Iesus hath appointed his Ministers and Officers as Governours and Pilots c. If in a ship at Sea wherein the Governour or Pilot of a ship undertakes to carry the ship to such a Port the civill Magistrate suppose a King or Emperour shall command the Master such and such a course to steere upon such or such a point which the Master knowes is not their course and which if they steere he shall never bring the Ship to that Port or harbour what shall the Master doe Surely all men will say the Master of the Ship or Pilot is to present Reasons and Arguments from his Mariners Art if the Prince bee capable of them or else in humble and submissive manner to perswade the Prince not to interrupt them in their course and duty properly belonging to them to wit governing of the ship steering of the course c. If the Master of the Ship command the Mariners thus and thus in cunning the ship managing the ●elme trimming the saile and the Prince command the Mariners a different or contrary course who is to be obeyed It is confest that the Mariners may lawfully disobey the Prince and obey the governour of the ship in the actions of the ship Thirdly what if the Prince have as much skill which is rare as the Pilot himselfe I conceive it will be answered that the Master of the ship and Pilot in what concernes the ship are chiefe and above in respect of their office the Prince himselfe and their commands ought to be attended by all the Mariners unlesse it bee in manifest errour wherein t is granted any passenger may reprove the Pilot. Fourthly I aske if the Prince and his Attendants be unskilfull in the ships affaires whether every Sayler and Mariner the youngest and lowest be not so farre as concernes the ship to be preferred before the Princes followers and the Prince himselfe and their counsell and advice more to be attended to and their service more to bee desired and respected and the Prince to bee requested to stand by and let the businesse alone in their hands Fifthly in case a wilfull King and his Attendants out of opinion of their skill or wilfulnesse of passion would so steere the course trim sayle c. as that in the judgement of the Master and Seamen the ship and lives shall bee indangered whether in case humble perswasions prevaile not ought not the Ships company to refuse to act in such a course yea and in case power be in their hands resist and suppresse these dangerous practices of the Prince and his followers and so save the ship Lastly suppose the Master out of base feare and cowardise or covetous desire of reward shall yeeld to gratifie the minde of the Prince contrary to the rules of Art and Experience c. and the ship come in danger and perish and the Prince with it if the Master get to shore whether may he not be justly questioned yea and suffer as guilty of the Princes death and those that perished with him These cases are cleare wherein according to this similitude the Prince ought not to governe and rule the actions of the ship but such whose office and charge and skill it is The result of all is this The Church of Christ is the Ship wherein the Prince if a member for otherwise the case is altred is a passenger In this ship the Officers and Governours such as are appointed by the Lord Jesus they are the chiefe and in those respects above the Prince himselfe and are to bee obeyed and submitted to in their works and administrations even before the Prince himselfe In this respect every Christian in the Church man or woman if of more knowledge and grace of Christ● ought to be of higher esteeme concerning Religion and Christianity then all the Princes in the world who have either none or lesse grace or knowledge of Christ although in civill things all civill reverence honour and obedience ought to be yeelded by all men Therefore if in matters of Religion the King command what is contrary to Christs rule though according to his perswasion and conscience who sees not that according to the similitude he ought not to be obeyed yea and in case boldly with spirituall force and power he ought to be resisted And if any Officer of the Church of Christ shall out of basenesse yeeld to the command of the Prince to the danger of the Church and soules committed to his charge the soules that perish notwithstanding the Princes command shall be laid to his charge If so then I rejoyne thus How agree these truths of this similitude with those former positions viz. that the Civill Magistrate is keeper of both Tables That he is to see the Church doe her duty That he ought to establish the true Religion suppresse and punish the false and so consequently must discerne judge and determine what the true gathering and governing of the Church is what the dutie of every Minister of Christ is what the true Ordinances are and what the true Administrations of them and where men faile correct punish and reforme by the Civill Sword I desire it may be answered in the feare and presence of him whose eyes are as a flame of fire if this be not according to the similitude though contrary to their scope in proposing of it to be Governour of the Ship of the Church to see the Master Pilot and Mariners do their duty in setting the course steering the ship trimming the sailes keeping the watch c. and where they faile to punish them and therefore by undeniable consequence to judge and determine what their duties are when they doe right and when they doe wrong and this not only in manifest Errour for then they say every passenger may reprove but in their ordinary course and practice The similitude of a Physitian obeying the Prince in the Body politick but prescribing to the Prince concerning the Princes body wherein the Prince unlesse the Physitian manifestly erre is to be obedient to the Physitian and not to be Iudge of the Physitian in his Art but to be ruled and judged as touching the state of his body by the Physitian I say this similitude and many others suiting with the former of a ship might be alleadged to prove the distinction of the Civill and Spirituall estate and that according to the rule of the Lord Iesus in the Gospel the Civill Magistrate is only to attend the Calling of the Civill Magistracie concerning the bodies and goods of the Subjects and is himselfe if a member of the Church and within subject to the power of the Lord Iesus therein as any member of the Church is 1
moneth consult of such things as make for the good of the Churches Secondly the time of this meeting may be sometimes at one place sometimes at another upon the Lecture day of every Church where Lectures are and let the Lecture that day be ended by eleven of the clock Thirdly let the end of this Assembly be to doe nothing by way of Authoritie but by way of Councell as the need of Churches shall require Secondly Annuall of all the Elders within our jurisdiction or others whereto the Churches may send once in the yeare to consult together for the publike welfare of all the Churches First let the place be sometimes at one Church sometimes at another as Reasons for the present may require Secondly let all the Churches send their waighty questions and cases six weeks or a month before the set time to the Church where the Assembly is to be held and the Officers thereof disperse them speedily to all the Churches that so they may have time to come prepared to the discussing of them Thirdly let this Assembly doe nothing by Authoritie but only by Councell in all cases which fall out leaving the determination of all things to particular Churches within themselves who are to judge and so to receive all doctrines and directions agreeing only with the Word of God The grounds of these Assemblies First need of each others helpe in regard of dayly emergent troubles doubts and controversies Secondly love of each others fellowship Thirdly of Gods glory out of a publike spirit to seeke the welfare of the Churches as well as their owne 1 Cor. 10 33. 2 Cor. 11. 23. Fourthly The great blessing and speciall presence of God upon such Assemblies hitherto Fifthly the good Report the Elders and Brethren of Churches shall have hereby by whose communion of Love others shall know they are the Disciples of Christ. CHAP. CXXX Truth I May well compare this passage to a double picture on the first part or side of it a most faire and beautifull countenance of the pure and holy Word of God on the later side or part a most sowre and uncomely deformed looke of a meere humane invention Concerning the former they prove the true and unquestionable power and priviledge of the Churches of Christ to assemble and practise all the holy Ordinances of God without or against the consent of the Magistrate Their Arguments from Christs and the Angels voyce from the Apostles and Churches practice I desire may take 〈◊〉 impression written by the point of a diamond the finger of Gods spirit in all hearts whom it may concerne This Libertie of the Churches of Christ he inlargeth and amplifieth so far that he calls it an usurpation of some Magistrates to determine the time and place of Worship and say that rather the Churches should be left to their inoffensive libertie Upon which Grant I must renew my former Quaerie Whether this be not to walke in c●ntradictions to hold with light yet walke in darknes for How can they say the Magistrate is appointed by God and Christ the Guardian of the Christian Church and Worship bound to set up the true Church Ministrie and Ordinances to see the Church doe her duty that is to force her to it by the Civill sword bound to suppresse the false Church Ministrie and Ordinances and therefore consequently to judge and determine which is the true Church which is the false and what is the duty of the Church officers and members of it and what not and yet say they the Churches must assemble and practice all Ordinances without his consent yea against it Yea and he hath not so much power as to judge what is a convenient time and place for the Churches to assemble in which if he should doe he should be an usurper and should abridge the Church of her inoffensive libertie As if the Master or Governour of a Ship had power to judge who were true and fit officers mariners c. for the managing of the Ship and were bound to see them each performe his duty and to force them thereunto and yet he should be an usurper if hee should abridge them of meeting and managing the vessel at their pleasure when they please and how they please without and against his consent Certainly if a Physician have power to judge the d●sease of his patient and what course of Physicke he must use can he bee counted an usurper unlesse the patient might take what physicke himselfe pleased day or night summer or winter at home in his chamber or abroad in the aire Secondly by their grant in this passage that Gods people may thus assemble and practice ordinances without and against the consent of the Magistrate I●infer then also may they become a Church constitute and gather without or against the consent of the Magistrate Therefore may the Messengers of Christ preach and baptise that is make disciples and wash them into the true profession of Christianity according to the commission though the Magistrate determine and publikly declare such Ministers such baptismes such Churches to be hereticall Thirdly it may here be questioned what power is now given to the Civill Magistrate in Church matters and Spirituall affairs If it be answered that although Gods people may doe thus against the Magistrates consent yet others may not I answer as before who sees not herein partiality to themselves Gods people must enjoy their Liberty of Conscience and not be forced but all the Subjects in a Kingdome or Monarchie or the whole world beside must be compelled by the power of the Civill Sword to assemble thus and thus Secondly I demand who shall judge whether they are Gods people or no for they say whether the Magistrate consent or consent not that is judge so or not they ought to goe on in the Ordinances renuente Magistratu How agrees this with their former and generall assertion that the Civill Magistrate must set up the Christian Church and Worship therefore by their owne grant he must judge the godly themselves he must discerne who are fit matter for the House of God living stones and what unfit matter trash and rubbish Those worthy men the Authours of these positions and others of their judgement have cause to examine their soules with feare and trembling in the presence of God upon this intergatory viz. whether or no this be not the bottome and root of the matter If they could have the same supply of maintenance without the helpe of the Civill Sword or were perswaded to live upon the voluntary contribution of poore Saints or their owne labour as the Lord Iesus and his first Messengers did I say if this lay not in the bottom whether or no they could not be willingly shut of the Civill power and left only to their inoffensive liberties I could also put a sad Quaerie to the consciences of some viz. what should be the reason why in
beleeve in conscience to be the truth or for practising some worke which you beleeve in conscience to be a religious dutie Truth I acknowledge that to molest any person Iew or Gentile for either professing doctrine or practising worship meerly religious or spirituall it is to persecute him and such a person what ever his doctrine or practice be true or false suffereth persecution for conscience But withall I desire it may bee well observed that this distinction is not full and complete For beside this that a man may be persecuted because he holdeth or practiseth what he beleeves in conscience to be a Truth as Daniel did for which he was cast into the Lyons den Dan. 6. and many thousands of Christians because they durst not cease to preach and practise what they beleeved was by Go● commanded as the Apostles answered Acts 4 5. I say besides this a man may also be persecuted because hee dares not be constrained to yeeld obedience to such doctrines and worships as are by men invented and appointed So the three famous Iewes were cast into the fiery furnace for refusing to fall downe in a non-conformity to the whole conforming world before the golden Image Dan. 3. 21. So thousands of Christs witnesses and of late in those bloudy Marian dayes have rather chose to yeeld their bodies to all sorts of torments then to subscribe to doctrines or practise worships unto which the States and Times as Nabuchadnezzar to his golden Image have compelled and urged them A chaste wife will not onely abhorre to be restrained from her husbands bed as adulterous and polluted but also abhor if not much more to bee constrained to the bed of a stranger And what is abominable in corporall is much more loathsome in spirituall whoredome and defilement The Spouse of Christ Iesus who could not finde her soules beloved in the wayes of his worship and Ministery Cant. 1. 3. and 5. Chapters abhorred to turne aside to other Flockes Worships c. and to imbrace the bosome of a false Christ Cant. 1. 8. CHAP. IV. Peace THe second distinction is this In points of Doctrine some are fundamentall without right beleefe whereof a man cannot be saved others are circumstantiall and lesse principall wherein a man may differ in judgement without prejudice of salvation on either part Truth To this distinction I dare not subscribe for then I should everlastingly condemne thousands and ten thousands yea the whole generation of the righteous who since the falling away from the first primitive Christian state or worship have and doe erre fundamentally concerning the true matter constitution gathering and governing of the Church and yet farre be it from any pious breast to imagine that they are not saved and that their soules are not bound up in the bundle of eternall life We reade of foure sorts of spirituall or Christian foundations in the New Testaments First the Foundation of all foundations the Corner-stone it selfe the Lord Iesus on whom all depend Persons Doctrines Practices 1. Cor. 3. 2. Ministriall foundations The Church is built upon the foundation of the Apostles and Prophets Ephel 2. 20. 3. The foundation of future rejoycing in the fruits of Obedience 1 Tim. 6. 4. The foundation of Doctrines without the knowledge of which there can be no true profession of Christ according to the first institution Heb. 6. The foundation or principles of Repentance from dead works Faith towards God the Doctrine of Baptisme Laying on of Hands the Resurrection and Eternall Iudgement In some of these to wit those concerning Baptismes Laying on of Hands Gods people will be found to be ignorant for many hundred yeares and I yet cannot see it proved that light is risen I mean the light of the first institution in practice Gods people in their persons Heart-waking Cant. 5. 2. in the life of personall grace will yet be found fast asleep in respect of publike Christian Worship Gods people in their persons are His most deare and precious yet in respect of the Christian Worship they are mingled amongst the Babylonians from whence they are called to come out not locally as some have said for that belonged to a materiall and locall Babell and literall Babell and Ierusalem have now no difference Iohn 4. 21. but spiritually and mystically to come out from her sins and Abominations If Mr. Cotton maintaine the true Church of Christ to consist of the true matter of holy persons call'd out from the World and the true forme of Vnion in a Church Covenant And that also neither Nationall Provinciall nor Diocesan Churches are of Christs institution how many Thousands of Gods people of all sorts Clergie and Laitie as they call them will they finde both in former and later times captivated in such Nationall Provinciall and Diocesan Churches yea and so far from living in yea or knowing of any such Churches for matter and forme as they conceive now only to be true that untill of late yeares how few of Gods people knew any other Church then the Parish Church of dead stones or timber It being a late marvailous light revealed by Christ Iesus the Sun of Righteousnesse that his people are a Company or Church of living stones 1 Pet. 2 9. And however his own Soule and the soules of many others precious to God are perswaded to separate from Nationall Provinciall and Diocesan Churches and to assemble into particular Churches yet since there are no Parish Churches in England but what are made up of the Parish bounds within such and such a compasse of houses and that such Churches have beene and are in constant dependance on and subordination to the Nationall Church how can the New-English particular Churches joyne with the Old English Parish Churches in so many Ordinances of Word Prayer Singing Contribution c. but they must needs confesse that as yet their Soules are farre from the knowledge of the foundation of a true Christian Church whose matter must not only be living stones but also separated from the rubbish of Antichristian confusions and desolations CHAP. V. Peace WIth lamentation I may adde How can their Soules be cleare in this foundation of the true Christian matter who persecute and oppresse their own acknowledged Brethren presenting Light unto them about this Point But I shall now present you with Mr. Cottons third distinction In point of Practice saith he some concerne the weightier duties of the Law as What God we worship and with what kind of Worship whether such as if it be Right fellowship with God is held if false fellowship with God is lost Truth It is worth the inquirie what kind of Worship he intendeth for Worship is of various signification whether in generall acceptation he meane the rightnesse or corruptnesse of the Church or the Ministry of the Church or the Ministrations of the Word Prayer Seales c. And because it pleaseth the Spirit
they ●ill appeare to be of wrestling this Scripture before the Tribunall of the most High Truth Again Calvin speaking concerning fulfilling of the Law by love writes thus on the same place Sed Pauls● in totam 〈◊〉 respic● tantum de officiis lequitur quae nobis erg●● 〈◊〉 demand●n●ur à lig● That is Paul hath not respect unto the whole Law he speaks only of those duties which the Law commands towards our neighbours and it is manifest that in this place by our neighbours hee meanes high and low Magistrates and subjects unto whom we ought to walke by the rule of love paying unto every one their due Againe Caeterùm Paulus hic tantùm memînit secundae Tabulae quia de ea tantum erat quaestio But Paul here only mentioneth the second Table because the question was only concerning that And againe Quod autem repetit complementum legis esse dilectionem intellige ut prius de ea legis parte quod hominum societatem spectat Prior enim legis tabula quae est de cultu Dei minimé hic attingitur But in that he repeateth that love is the fulfilling of the Law understand as before that he speakes of that part of the Law which respects humane society for the first Table of the Law which concerneth the Worship of God is not in the least manner here touched After Calvin his successour in Geneva that holy and learned Beza upon the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 if there be any other Commandement it is summed up in this Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thy selfe writes thus Tota lex nihil aliud quám amorem Dei proximi praecipit sed tamen cum Apostolus hoc Ioco de mutuis hominum officiis disserat legis vocabulum ad secundam Tabulam restringendam puto The whole Law saith he commands nothing else but the love of God and yet neverthelesse since the Apostle in this place discourseth of the duties of men one toward another I thinke this terme law ought to be restrained to the second Table CHAP. XLVIII Peace I Pray now proceed to the second Argument from this Scripture against the use of civil weapons in matters of Religion and spirituall worship Truth The Spirit of God here commands subjection and obedience to higher Powers even to the Romane Emperours and all subordinate Magistrates and yet the Emperours and Governours under them were strangers from the life of God in Christ yea most averse and opposite yea cruell and bloody Persecutors of the name and Followers of Iesus and yet unto these is this subjection and obedience commanded Now true it is that as the civill Magistrate is apt not to content himselfe with the majesty of an earthly Throne Crowne Sword Scepter but to seat himselfe in the Throne of David in the Church So Gods people and it may be in Pauls time considering their high and glorious preferment and priviledges by Iesus Christ were apt to be much tempted to despise Civill Governours especially such as were ignorant of the Son of God and persecuted him in his servants Now then I argue if the Apostle should have commanded this subjection unto the Romane Emperours and Romane Magistrates in spirituall causes as to defend the truth which they were no way able to discerne but persecuted and upon trust from others no Magistrate not perswaded in his owne conscience is to take it Or else to punish Hereticks whom then also they must discerne and judge or else condemne them as the Iewes would have Pilate condemne the Lord Iesus upon the sentence of others I say if Paul should have in this Scripture put this worke upon these Romane Governours and commanded the Churches of Christ to have yeelded subjection in any such matters he must in the judgement of all men have put out the eye of Faith and Reason and Sense at once CHAP. XLIX Peace IT is said by some Why then did Paul himselfe Act. 25. appeale to Caesar unlesse that Caesar though he was not yet he ought to have beene a fit Iudge in such matters Truth I answer if Paul in this Appeale to Caesar had referred and submitted simply and properly the cause of Christ his Ministry and Ministration to the Romane Emperours Tribunall knowing him to be an Idolatrous stranger from 〈◊〉 true God and a Lion-like bloody persecutor of the Lord Iesus the Lambe of God I say let it be considered whether or no he had committed these 5. Evils The first against the dimmest light of Reason in appealing to darknesse to judge light to unrighteousnesse to judge righteousnesse the spiritually blinde to judge and end the controversie concerning heavenly colours Secondly against the cause of Religion which if condemned by every inferiour Idolater must needs bee condemned by the Caesars themselves who Nabuchadnezzar-like set up their State-images or Religions commanding the Worlds uniformity of worship to them Thirdly against the holy State and Calling of the Christians themselves who by virtue of their subjection to Christ even the least of them are in spirituall things above the highest Potentates or Emperours in the world who continue in enmity against or in an ignorant naturall state without Christ Iesus This honour or high exaltation above all his Holy ones to binde not literally but spiritually their Kings in Chaines and their Nobles in Linkes of Iron Psal. 49. Fourthly against his owne Calling Apostleship or office of Ministery unto which Caesar himselfe and all Potentates in spirituall and soule matters ought to have submitted and unto which in controversies of Christs Church and Kingdome Caesar himself ought to have appealed the Church of God being built upon the foundation of the Apostles and Prophets Ephes. 2. 20. And therefore in case that any of the Romane Governours or the Emperour himselfe had beene humbled and converted to Christianity by the preaching of Christ were not they themselves bound to subject themselves unto the power of the Lord Iesus in the hands of the Apostles and Churches and might not the Apostles and Churches have refused to have baptized or washed them into the profession of Christ Iesus upon the apprehension of their unworthinesse Or if received into Christian Fellowship were they not to stand at the Bar of the Lord Iesus in the Church concerning either their opinions or practices were they not to be cast out and delivered unto Sathan by the power of the Lord Iesus if after once and twice admonition they persist obstinate as faithfully and impartially as if they were the meanest in the Empire Yea although the Apostles the Churches the Elders or Governours thereof were poore and meane despised persons in civill respects and were themselves bound to yeeld all faithfull and loyall obedience to such Emperours and Governours in Civill things Were they not if Christians bound themselves to have submitted to these spirituall decrees of the Apostles and Elders as well as the lowest and meanest members of Christ Act.
civill sword I have at large there answered CHAP. LXIX Peace IN the next place he selecteth one passage out of Hilarie although there are many golden passages there exprest against the use of Civill Earthly Powers in the Affaires of Christ. The passage is this It is true also what he saith that neither the Apostles nor We may propogate Christian Religion by the Sword but if Pagans cannot he won by the Word they are not to be compelled by the Sword Neverthelesse this hindreth not saith he but if they or any other should blaspheme the true God and his true Religion they ought to be severely punished and no lesse doe they deserve if they seduce from the Truth to damnable Heresie or Idolatrie Truth In which Answer I observe first his Agreement with Hilarie that the Christian Religion may not be propagated by the Civill Sword Unto which I reply and aske then what meanes this passage in his first answer to the former speeches of the Kings viz. We acknowledge that none is to be constrained to beleeve or professe the true Religion till he be convinced in judgement of the Truth of it implying 2 things First that the Civill Magistrate who is to constraine with the Civill Sword must judge all the Consciences of their Subjects whether they be convinced or no. Secondly when the Civill Magistrate discerns that his Subjects consciences are convinced then he may constraine them vi armi● hostily And accordingly the Civill State and Magistracie judging in spirituall things who knowes not what constraint lies upon all consciences in Old and New England to come to Church and pay Church duties which is upon the point though with a sword of a finer gilt and trim in New England nothing else but that which he confesseth Hilarie saith true should not be done to wit a propagation of Religion by the Sword Againe although he confesseth that propagation of Religion ought not to be by the sword yet he maintaineth the use of the sword when persons in the judgement of the Civill State for that is implied blaspheme the true God and the true Religion and also seduce others to damnable Heresie and Idolatrie Which because he barely affirmeth in this place I shall defer my Answer unto the after Reasons of Mr Cotton and the Elders of New English Churches where Scriptures are alleadged and in that place by Gods assistance they shall be examined and answered CHAP. LXX Peace THe Answerer thus proceeds Your next Writer is Tertullian who speaketh to the same purpose in the place alleadged by you His intent is only to restraine Scapula the Roman Governour of Africa from persecuting the Christians for not offering sacrifice to their Gods and for that end fetcheth an Argument from the Law of Naturall equity not to compell any to any Religion but permit them to believe or not to believe at all Which we acknowledge and accordingly we judge the English may permit the Indians to continue in their unbeliefe neverthelesse it will not therefore be lawfull to tolerate the worship of Devils or Idols to the seduction of any from the Truth Truth Answ. In this passage he agrees with Tertullian and gives instance in America of the English permitting the Indians to continue in their unbeleefe yet withall he affirmeth it not lawfull to tolerate worshipping of Devils or seduction from the Truth I answer that in New England it is well known that they not onely permit the Indians to continue in their unbeliefe which neither they nor all the Ministers of Christ on Earth nor Angels in Heaven can helpe not being able to worke beleefe but they also permit or tolerate them in their Paganish worship which cannot be denied to be a worshipping of Devils as all false Worship is And therefore cons●quently ●ccording to the same practice did they walke by Rule and impartially not onely the Indians but their Countrymen French Dutch Spanish Persians Turkes Iewes c. should also be permitted in their Worships if correspondent in civill obedience Peace He addes further when Tertullian saith That another mans Religion neither hurteth nor profiteth any It must be understood of private worship and Religion professed in private otherwise a false Religion professed by the members of the Church or by such as have given their names to Christ will be the ruine and desolation of the Church as appeareth by the threats of Christ to the Churches● Revel 2. Truth I answer passing by that unsound distinction of members of the Church or those that have given their Names to Christ which in point of visible profession and Worship will appeare to be all one it is plaine First that Tertullian doth not there speake of private but of publike Worship and Religion Secondly Although it be true in a Church of Christ that a false Religion or Worship permitted will hurt according to those threats of Christ Revel 2. Yet in 2 cases I believe a false Religion will not hurt which is most like to have been Tertullians meaning First a false Religion out of the Church will not hurt the Church no more then weedes in the Wildernesse hurt the inclosed Garden or poyson hurt the body when it is not touched or taken yea and antidotes are received against it Secondly a false Religion and Worship will not hurt the Civill State in case the worshippers breake no civill Law and the Answerer elswhere acknowledgeth that the civill Lawes not being broken civill Peace is not broken and this only is the Point in Question CHAP. LXXI Peace YOur next Authour saith he Ierome crosseth not the Truth nor advantageth your Cause for we grant what he saith that Heresie must be cut off with the sword of the Spirit but this hinders not but being so cut down● if the Heretick will persist in his Heresie to the seduction of others he may be cut off also by the Civill Sword to prevent the perdition of others And that to be Ieromes meaning appeareth by his note upon that of the Apostle A little Leaven leaveneth the whole lumpe Therefore saith he a sparke as soon as it appeareth is to be extinguished and the leaven to be removed from the rest of the dough Rotten pieces of flesh are to be cut off and a scabbed beast is to be driven from the sheepfold lest the whole House Body masse of Dough and Flock be set on fire with the sparke be putrified with the rotten slesh sowred with the leaven perish by the scabbed beast Truth I answer first he granteth to Tertullian that Heresie must be cut off with the sword of the Spirit yet withall he maintaineth a cutting off by a second sword the sword of the Magistrate and conceiveth that Tertullian so meanes because he quoteth that of the Apostle A little leaven leaveneth the whole lumpe Answ. It is no Argument to prove that Tertullian meant a civill sword by alleadging 1 Cor. 5. or Gal. 5. which properly and only
Christs mouth a sword with two edges But more particularly the contributions of Christs Kingdome are all holy and spirituall though consisting of materiall earthly substance as is Water in Baptisme Bread and Wine in the Supper and joyned with prayer and the Lords Supper Act. 2. 42. Hence as Prayer is called Gods sacrifice so are the contributions and mutuall supplyes of the Saints sacrifices Phil. 4. Hence also as it is impossible for naturall men to bee capable of Gods worship and to feed be nourished and edified by any spirituall ordinance no more then a dead childe can sucke the breast or a dead man feast So also is it as impossible for a dead man yet lodged in the grave of Nature to contribute spiritually I meane according to Scriptures rule as for a dead man to pay a reckoning I question not but naturall men may for the outward act preach pray contribute c. but neither are they worshippers suitable to him who is a Spirit Iohn 4. nor can they least of all bee forced to worship or the maintenance of it without a guilt of their hypocrisie Peace They will say what is to be done for their soules Truth The Apostles whom wee professe to imitate preached the Word of the Lord to unbeleevers without mingling in worship with them and such Preachers and preaching such as pretend to be the true Ministry of Christ ought to be and practise Not forcing them all their dayes to come to Church and pay their duties either so confessing that this is their Religion unto which they are forced or else that as before they are forced to be of no Religion all their dayes The way to subdue Rebels is not by correspondence and communion with them by forcing them to keepe the City Watches and pay sessements c. which all may be practised upon compulsion treacherously the first work with such is powerfully to subdue their judgments and wills to lay downe their weapons and yeeld willing subjection then come they orderly into the City and so to Citie priviledges CHAP. CVI. Peace PLease you now deare Truth to discusse the Scriptures from the Old Testament Nehem 13. and 2 Chron. 31. Truth God gave unto that Nationall Church of the Jewes that excellent Land of Canaan and therein Houses furnished Orchards Gardens Vineyards Olive yards Fields Wells c. they might well in this settled abundance and the promised continuation and increase of it afford a large temporall supply to their Priests and Levites even to the Tenth of all they did possesse Gods people are now in the Gospel brought into a spirituall land of Canaan flowing with spirituall milk and honey and they abound with spirituall and heavenly comforts though in a poore and persecuted condition therefore an inforced setled maintenance is not sutable to the Gospel as it was to the Ministry of Priests and Levites in the Law Secondly in the change of the Church estate there was also a change of the Priesthood and of the Law Heb. 7. Nor did the Lord Iesus appoint that in his Church and for the maintenance of his Ministrie the Civill sword of the Magistrate but that the Spirituall Sword of the Ministrie should alone compell 3. Therefore the compulsion used under Hezekiah and Nehemiah was by the civill and corporall Sword a type in that typicall State not of another materiall and corporall but of an heavenly and spirituall even the sword of the Spirit with which Christ fighteth Revel 3. which is exceeding sharpe entring in between the soule and spirit Heb. 4. and bringing every thought into captivitie to the obedience of Christ Iesus He that submits not at the shaking of this sword is cut off by it and he that despiseth this sword all the power in the World cannot make him a true worshipper or by his purse a mainteiner of Gods worship Lastly If any man professing to be a Minister of Christ Iesus shall bring men before the Magistrate as the practice hath been both in Old and New England for not paying him his wages or his due I aske if the voluntarie consent of the party hath not obliged him how can either the officers of the Parish Church or of the Civill State compell this or that man to pay so much more or lesse to maintaine such a Worship or Ministrie I ask further if the determining what is each mans due to pay why may they not determine the tenth and more as some desired others opposing in New England and force men not only to maintenance but to a Iewish maintenance Peace Yea but say they is not the Labourer worthy of his hire Truth Yes from them that hire him from the Church to whom he laboureth or ministreth not from the Civill State no more then the Minister of the Civill State is worthy of his hire from the Church but from the Civill State in which I grant the persons in the Church ought to be assistant in their Civill respects Peace What maintenance say they shall the Ministrie of the Gospell have Truth We finde two wayes of maintenance for the Ministrie of the Gospell proposed for our direction in the New Testament First the free and willing contribution of the Saints according to 1 Cor. 16. Luc. 8. 3. c. upon which both the Lord Jesus and his Ministers lived Secondly the diligent worke and labour of their owne hands as Paul tells the Thessalonians and that in two cases 1. Either in the inabilities and necessities of the Church 2. Or for the greater advantage of Christs truth as when Paul saw it would more advantage the name of Christ he denies himselfe and falls to worke amongst the Corinthians and Thessalonians Let none call these cases extraordinary for if persecution be the portion of Christs sheep and the busines or worke of Christ must be dearer to us then our right eyes or lives such as will follow Paul and follow the Lord Iesus must not thinke much at but rejoyce in poverties necessities hunger cold nakednesse c. The Stewards of Christ Iesus must be like their Lord and abhorre to steale as the evill Steward pretending that the shamed to beg but peremptorily dig he could not CHAP. CVII Peace ONe and the last branch deare Truth remaines concerning Schooles The Churches say they much depend upon the Schooles and the Schooles upon the Magistrates Truth I honour Schooles for Tongues and Arts but the institution of Europes Universities devoting persons as is said for Scholars in a Monasticall way forbidding Mariage and Labour to I hold as far from the mind of Iesus Christ as it is from propagating his Name and Worship We count the Universities the Fountaines the Seminaries or Seed-plots of all Pietie but have not those Fountaines ever sent what streames the Times have liked and ever changed their taste and colour to the Princes eye and Palate For any depending of the Church of Christ upon such Schooles