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A09530 Phisicke against fortune, aswell prosperous, as aduerse conteyned in two bookes. Whereby men are instructed, with lyke indifferencie to remedie theyr affections, aswell in tyme of the bryght shynyng sunne of prosperitie, as also of the foule lowryng stormes of aduersitie. Expedient for all men, but most necessary for such as be subiect to any notable insult of eyther extremitie. Written in Latine by Frauncis Petrarch, a most famous poet, and oratour. And now first Englished by Thomas Twyne.; De remediis utriusque fortunae. English Petrarca, Francesco, 1304-1374.; Twyne, Thomas, 1543-1613. 1579 (1579) STC 19809; ESTC S114602 539,184 716

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Father The Lxxxii Dialogue IOY I Haue a good Father Reason Acknowledge then thy good for it is but short Ioy. I haue a very good Father Reason He wyll procure griefe vnto thee or thou vnto hym Ioy. I haue a most tender Father Reason If the order of nature be obserued great heauinesse remayneth vnto thee for inheritaunce but yf the order be peruerted the lyke abydeth hym Ioy. I haue a Father yet Reason Vse him with diligence this is a frayle pleasantnesse and thy Father is an old man. Ioy. I haue an olde man to my Father Reason There is now no place for lingring make haste to gather the last fruite as it were from a ruinous tree Keepe him companie as much as thou canst see him diligently as yf he were immediatly departyng but heare him more willingly and lay vp his last aduertisementes in thy careful minde and when thou goest from him leaue him furnished with necessaries as yf thou were goyng a farre iourney The tyme wyll come thou shalt lacke his counsell and shalt seeke him and not fynde hym at home Ioy. I haue an extreame olde man to my Father Reason Make haste to shewe the last duetifulnesse of vertue towardes hym whyle there is tyme yf thou omit any thyng now thou wylt alwayes be sorie Ioy. I haue a vertuous Father Reason Then hast thou suche an one as desireth to dye before thee and feareth to lyue after thee Ioy. I haue a very good Father Reason Thou shalt not knowe what he was before thou want hym and for whom thou wylt lament when thou hast lost hym Of a most louing Mother The Lxxxiii Dialogue IOY I Haue a most louing Mother Reason But thou art vnto her a continual feare and carefulnesse Ioy. I haue a most louing Mother Reason The Fathers loue is greatest but the Mothers loue is most vehement and both their loues are such and so great that the affection of the childe vnlesse it be very rare can scarce counteruayle it Notwithstanding the contention betweene the Parentes and the Children in shewing loue and duetie one towardes another is commendable and vertuous let them haue the victorie vpon whom the fountaine of heauenly charitie is most abundantly powred But hytherto the Parentes haue the vpper hand neyther is yet the duetifulnesse of the Chyldren or their reuerence towardes their elders and progenitours suche that it may minister iust cause that we shoulde thinke it woulde be otherwyse but if it shoulde chaunce so to happen besides expectation there were no sight in the earth that coulde be deuised more acceptable vnto the heauens Ioy. I haue a verie good Mother Reason Be thou at leastwise a good childe vnto her remember that thou was first a burden and coyle vnto her and afterwarde a most bitter payne and lastly a continuall trouble and ielous carefulnesse Thinke on her wombe that bare thee and her breastes that gaue thee sucke how many sleepes and how many meales or pleasures thou hast broken her of by thy crying What feare and sorowe thou hast procured her by thy chaunces and sometymes also perhaps perilous pleasures Many tymes as the feare of chyldrens death hath enforced the wretched Mothers to ende their lyues so also hath the ioy of their lyfe This last poynt appeared playnely that day wherein they that remayned after the slaughter at Thrasimenus beyng dispersed returned safe to their friendes and when two Mothers who thought no lesse but that their sonnes were slayne in the battayle sawe them notwithstanding come agayne in safetie not being able to susteine the force of so sodayne a ioy they dyed presently So that by this and suche lyke examples it is truely verified that amongst men there is no greater ingratitude then that which is shewed agaynst the Mother Ioy. My Mother is yet lyuing an olde woman Reason As often as thou lookest vpon her and beholdest the earth also thinke from whence thou commest and whyther thou shalt out of how narrowe a place thou camest and into how narrowe an one thou shalt depart to witteout of the wombe of thyne owne Mother into the bowelles of the Earth that is mother of al thinges Among all the thinges therefore which between these twaine do delight and busie the minde drawe backe the raynes of pryde and couetousnesse Of good Brethren and louing and fayre Sisters The Lxxxiiii Dialogue IOY I Haue louyng Brethren Reason A rare matter for parentes for the most part doo alwayes loue but brethren most commonly doo hate and despise one another And therefore the trueth cryeth out by the mouth of the Poet Ouid That seldome is loue sounde among brethren whereas there is noted the wickednesse and vndutifulnesse of brethren children and almost al sortes of men exceptyng parentes Ioy. I haue very good Brethren Reason Truely I woonder at it it is enough that they be good for most tymes they be euyll and the worst of all other and so much worse then open enimies by how much there is lesse heede to be taken of domestical treacherie How great the loue of brethren is that I may not bryng to lyght them that are vnknowen nor offende them that are present the most famous couples the Micenian the Thebane and the Romane brethren doo declare which infamie why it shoulde more redounde vnto one citie then to the whole worlde I see no cause Beholde the first brethren that were in the worlde one was slayne by the hand of the other and yet hast thou not heard a most horrible mischiefe to tell for Phraates king of the Parthians of whom I spake before beside his most detestable parricide in murdering at one time his owne father and natural sonne we reade how he slue moreouer his thirtie brethren not fearyng by so foule a massacre and bloodshed to establish his yl gottten kingdome and vtterly to extinguishe al feare of competitours Ioy. My Brethren are good Reason I suppose you haue not yet deuided your inheritaunce for then your malice wylbreake foorth Golde is tryed by fyre and so is the minde by golde That agreement whiche seemeth to be great is oftentymes ouerthrowen by a litle golde Ioy. I haue louyng Brethren Reason Perhaps thy single lyfe or lacke of children causeth them to loue thee Thy marrying wyl discouer them but hauing of chyldren more better when they shal perceyue them selues depriued of the hope of succession whiche hope hath caused the most impatient to suffer muche Ioy. I haue brethren that loue me most deerely Reason It ought to be so vnlesse malice or feare or couetousnesse or immoderate desire to haue which whyle it coueteth to be satisfied quite forgetting the lawe both of God and man doo hinder it How great so euer the loue be betweene the parentes and the chyldren yet are the maners and conuersation diuers which although the parentes doo perceiue quickly yet do they acknoledge it too late Although fathers loue their chyldren at the fyrst yet it is long are they receyue them
a man the more part of them do molest him and oftentimes the remembrance of pleasant thinges is greeuous Ioy. My memorie comprehendeth sundrie thinges Reason If they be good it is wel If they be euil why art thou glad therof Is it not greeuous yenough either to haue suffred or seene euils but that they must continually come into our minde or alwayes lye forth before our eyes Ioy. My memory conteyneth diuers thyngs Reason That is to say diuers both faults offences heinous trespasses and reproches shames repulses sorowes trauailes and dangers although as some say there is pleasure in the remembraunce of this whereof I spake last wherein notwithstanding we must this vnderstande that not so much the remembraunce of the forepassed euyls as the delyght of the present good state procureth the pleasure And therfore no man taketh delight in the remembrance of his labour and danger vnlesse he be at quyet and in securitie no man can gladly thynke on pouertie but he that is rytche on sicknesse but he that is in health on pryson but he that is at lybertie on bandes but he that is free on banyshment but he that is returned home agayne Only the remembraunce of shame is greeuous yea in the midst of honours So that there is nothyng that is holden more deare or is more incurable then is a mans honour and good name Ioy. My memorie is manyfolde and conteyneth much tyme. Reason In manyfold remembrance are manyfolde troubles For some doo nyp the conscience some pricke it some wounde it some confounde it some terrifie it some ouerthrow it wherby it commeth to passe that when men cal them to remembrance red blushyng and wan palenes enterchangeably possesse theyr faces in silence which thing chaunceth sometime to the vilest wickedst persons causing theyr going to be vncertaine theyr speach doubtful with many other such passions moe signifiyng that the mynd is troubled with to wel remembryng Ioy. My memorie is prompt Reason I had rather thy wyl were godly thy desire chast thy counsels honest thy deedes innocent and thy life without rebuke Ioy. I haue a very firme memorie Reason How should you men then forgeat the heauenly precepts which are so few in number How should you forgeat the only God How should you then forgeat yourselues Ioy. My memorie is passyng firme Reason I thinke wel it be so of earthly and vnprofitable things But whyther and to what purpose tendeth this vagabounde and flickeryng memorie Which wanderyng through heauen and earth and forgettyng to returne to it selfe calleth not to remembrance that one thing which is necessarie and healthful in which yf perhaps sometyme it find any smal pleasure most times it findeth plentie of griefe And therefore not without cause when one offered to teach Themistocles the art of memorie which at that tyme was inuented by Simonidis answeared that he had rather learne the art of forgetfulnesse And although he seemed iustly to answere so as one that aboue al credite excelled al other in that gyft of nature and whose memory was ouerwhelmed with innumerable representations of matters wordes notwithstandyng it agreeth almost with al men for so al of you learne the thynges that you ought to forgeat and forgeat the thinges that ye ought to learne exercising your memorie in such matters as were profitable to forgeat therin not contented with the limitatiō of nature ye set forth your madnes in art Ioy. My memory is almightie Reason This title is proper to God only You would haue said perhaps that it is of great power notwithstanding if an excellent memorie be of any force which in deede is better then al othervaine curiositie let it reiect the hurtful embrace the profitable not so diligently pursue the things that delight as the things that profite Ioy. My memory is the best that can be Reason There is nothing better then the best therfore if thou wilt seeme to say true it behoueth thee to shew thy self mindful in the best Remember thy sinne that thou maiest be sorie for it remember death that thou maiest leaue to syn remēber the iudgment of god that thou maiest be afraid remember his mercy that thou do not dispaire Of Eloquence The .ix. Dialogue IOY BVt mine eloquence is notable Reason I graunt it is a great instrument of glory but doubtful with two points It skilleth very much how a man do vse this also Ioy. Myne eloquence is flowing and swift Reason Some not amysse do compare the eloquence of a foole or a lewd person to a mad mans swoord both whom it is meete when they goe abrode to be vnarmed Ioy. Mine eloquence is famous and bryght Reason A thyng is sayd to be bright many wayes the Sunne is bright a fire is bright Ioy. Myne eloquence is very shynyng Reason The sorowful cometes and hurtful swordes and hateful helmets of our enimies doo shyne but that the shyning of eloquence may be glorious it must be tempered with holynesse and wysedome Ioy. The plentie of myne eloquence is very great Reason If it be ioyned with modesty I doo not denie but that it is an excellent thyng and surpassyng the common measure of men otherwyse it were better to be dumbe Ioy. I haue eloquence yenough Reason That there was eloquence yenough and but litle wysedome in that most wicked man thou readest in Salust yet sought he not for any glorie by his eloquence how be it if it be more deeply consydered it was not eloquence but vnprofitable babling For no man can be a true oratour that is to say a maister of eloquence vnlesse he be a good man And if thou beeing a good and a wise man diddest suppose that this streame and readinesse of woordes which for the most part doth most abounde in the fancie and impudent crue was sufficient for the commendation of the Oratorie and the perfect duety of eloquence or that this cunning in speache only was yenough thou wast deceiued The redines of the tongue plentie of wordes the art and skil also to vse them may be indifferent to the wicked and the godly but that which thou seekest apparteineth to the best sort of men not to al of them but to very few so that euill men are banished frō this cōmendation being a thing wherunto the good gifts of that minde as vertue wisdome are required whiche they do want Which if thou do not vnderstand to be so I wyll shewe thee howe And remember these two thinges whereof I speake imprint their diffinitions in thy minde whereof the one is Catoes the other Ciceroes The fyrst sayth thus An Oratour is an honest man skilful in speaking The other Eloquence sayth he is nothyng els but wisedome speaking copiously By these woordes thou seest that to the essence and substaunce of an Oratour and of Eloquence is honestie and wysedome required whiche notwithstanding are not sufficient vnlesse there be cunning copie So
be fulfylled or wholy reiected and reputed among the most vylest thyngs Moreouer shame hath cured many which remedy happeneth to the most noble myndes whylest they seeke to auoyde infamie and irrision are loath to be poynted at as they goe in the streetes laying before theyr eyes the filthynesse of the thyng voyde of effect ful of shame ful of danger ful of iust causes of sorow and repentance last of al settyng false excuses and vayne perswasions aside to put on the true to wyt that neyther nature nor destiny nor starres beare any sway in this matter and finally nothyng but only a lightnesse and free iudgement of the mynde For it is in the choyce of hym that is sicke to be made whole so soone as he begynneth to haue a wyll to be whole and can finde in his harte to breake of the pleasant linkes of their sweete companie which is an hard matter to doo I confesse but possible to hym that is willing For as Cicero sayeth most grauely This is to be declared which is found to be in euery perturbation that it is nothing but in opinion in the iudgment and in the wyl For yf loue were naturall then all should loue should alwayes loue al loue one thyng and then shame should not deterre one and musing another and sasietie another For this last which is sacietie or fulnesse is by some numbred among the remedies and so is also a newe loue wherby the old is dryuen foorth as it were one nayle by another which although vnto Artaxerxes kyng of Persia whom the holy scripture calleth Assuerus it was put in mynd by friendes and found profitable by effect as Iosephus declareth the matter more at large I contend not of the euent but I speake of the choyce And therefore truely I haue ben of opinion that these two remedies haue sometyme been profitable but alwayes dangerous and yf with none of these nor with them al thou canst recouer then must thou in thy mynde run to the causes of the disease These as I suppose are the cheifest and greatest of al health beautie and good fauour ryches leasure youth And as contraryes doo best cure the diseases of the body so wyl they excellently remedy the minde also as sicknesse deformitie pouertie great businesse and olde age which is a worthy refourmer of the errours of youth These be my last remedies which are hard in deede but in respect of the greatnesse of the plague to be wyshed Of the byrth of chyldren The .lxx. Dialogue IOY I Haue chyldren borne vnto me Reason A double mischief and a domestical burden Ioy. There are chyldren borne vnto me Reason Thy wyfe is troublesome her Aunt more troublesome and her children most troublesome of al. Ioy. I haue chyldren borne Reason A most bytter sweetnesse gall annoynted with Hony. Ioy. I haue sweete issue borne vnto me Reason Thynke that there is sprong vnto thee at home a fountayne of grieuous cares thou shalt neuer lyue without feare and anguysh Ioy. I haue begotten children Reason Thou couldst before neither feare nor hope nor pray but now thou shalt learne to thy cost thou shalt learne also to take compassion vpon parentes bereaued of their chyldren and thou shalt learne to experiment long cares in thy short lyfe that now thou takest longer businesse in hande thou shalt learne to be greeued for the thynges that belong nothyng vnto thee and to dispose that which thou shalt neuer see To be short thou shalt learne to loue another more then thy selfe thou shalt learne to loue most ardently and to be loued most coldly whiche are hard matters Ioy. I haue chyldren Reason Now thou begynnest to vnderstande what duetie thou owest to thy parentes Ioy. I haue begotten chyldren Reason Thou hast planted a tree which must be husbanded with intollerable paynes whiche wyl keepe thee occupied as long as thou lyuest and whereof perhaps thou shalt reape either no fruite at al or late fruite and that peraduenture when thou art dead Ioy. I haue chyldren Reason If they be good a continual feare yf they be wycked a perpetual sorow in the meane whyle a doubtful comfort and an vndoubted care Ioy. I haue chyldren Reason Then hast thou whereof to be sory whyle thou art liuyng and to be knowne when thou art dead and wherefore thou mayest be willing to die often Ioy. I am the father of good chyldren Reason The better thy chyldren are the more daungerous is thine estate Thou knowest not what cause of sorowe thou hast purchased by begetting chyldren what entrance thou hast made into thy house for teares what power thou hast geuen vnto death and miserie ouer thy selfe O wretched mothers sayth Horace but O wretched fathers say I. Ioy. I am father of very good children Reason Thou shouldest wishe for death while thou art in this prosperitie lest that whilest thou lyuest thou surcease to be that whiche deliteth thee and at length with Nestor thou demaunde of thy felowes why thou hast lyued so long Ioy. I reioyce and am happie for that I haue wished issue Reason A troublesome felicitie a carefull ioy and many tymes sorowfull a miserable happinesse I coulde aleage many excellent men whose felicitie was by nothyng so much hyndred as for that they had chyldren Of a pleasant young childe The .lxxi. Dialogue IOY I Haue a pleasant young chylde Reason If so be that this myrth turn not to sorowe and the pleasanter thine infant is whyle he is present the more sorowful thou be when he is from thee Ioy. I haue a chyld of good towardnes Reason What if in nothing That age is of al other most frayle and is many tymes cut of in the middes of their flowre And as there is nothing more sweete so is there nothing almost more bitter Ioy. I haue a most flattering and pratling Infant Reason O take heede that these flatteries turne not into teares The sight and pratlyng of a young chylde is very pleasant I confesse and as it is written in Sta. Papinius â–ª their heauenly lookes and interrupted woordes after the maner of verses or mytre whiche whyle they are heard doo delight when they can be heard no more doo grieue and can not be remembred without sorowe Thus in all worldly thinges but in nothing more then in this bitternesse is euermore set against sweetenesse Ioy. I am delighted in my most pleasant Infant Reason I forbid thee not to be delighted that I may not withstand nature but I seeke for a meane in al thinges without which there is nothing wel doone I would haue thee to reioyce more sparingly that if thou haue occasion to be sorie thou mayst also more sparingly be sorie and I would wish thee to thinke that it may easily come to passe that thou mayest trust to a broken staffe or leane to a rotten wall which Adriane the Emperour is reported to haue sayde often when he had adopted Aelius who was a fayre chylde in deede and