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A96610 The bloody tenent yet more bloody: by Mr Cottons endevour to wash it white in the blood of the lambe; of whose precious blood, spilt in the blood of his servants; and of the blood of millions spilt in fromer and later wars for conscience sake, that most bloody tenent of presecution for cause of conscience, upon a second tryal, is found now more apparently and more notoriously guilty. In this rejoynder to Mr Cotton, are principally I. The nature of persecution, II. The power of the civill sword in spirituals examined; III. The Parliaments permission of dissenting consciences justified. Also (as a testimony to Mr Clarks narrative) is added a letter to Mr Endicot governor of the Massachusets in N.E. By R. Williams of Providence in New-England. Williams, Roger, 1604?-1683. 1652 (1652) Wing W2760; Thomason E661_6; ESTC R206778 290,081 379

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13 to the Rom. exhorteth unto subjection to Magistrates and love to all men which are duties of the second table But yet withal he answers that is will not follow that Magistrates have nothing to do with the violation of the first table and further saith that it is a plaine case that amongst the duties of the second table people may be exhorted to honor their Magistrates and children may be exhorted to honour their Parents but will it saith he thence follow that Magistrates have nothing to do with matters of religion in the church or parents in the family Truth I answer the scope of the discourse was to prove that it pleaseth the Spirit of God in Paul here only to treat of the duties of the second table unto which limitation or restriction Master Cotton speaks not at all but only granteth in general that it speaketh of the duties of the second table And I still urge and argue that the spirit of God discoursing so largely in this Scripture of the duties of Magistrates and people and treating only of civil things in that civil relation between Magistrates and people points as with a finger of God at their error that wrest this Scripture to maintaine the power of Magistrates and civil states in the spiritual and church estate of the kingdome of Christ Peace But what may be said to Master Cottons argument Truth I answer If people are bound to yeeld obedience in civil things to civil officers of the state Christians are much more bound to yeeld obedience according to God to the spiritual officers of Christs kingdome But how weak is this argument to prove that therefore the civil officers of the state are constituted rulers or governors preservers and reformers of the Christian and spiritual state which differs as much from the civil as the heavens are out of the reach of this earthly Globe and Element Examination of CHAP. XLVII Peace AGainst the Judgement of those blessed worthies alleadged Calvin and Beza confining this passage of Rom. 13. to the second table Master Cotton here opposeth their judgement for the Magistrates power in matters of religion in other writings of theirs yea and from this very Scripture Truth This their judgement for the Magistrates power was granted and premised before yet let the expressions of those worthy men produced by the discusser on this Chapter be faithfully weighed and it will cleerly appear that as James speaks those excellent men endeavoured to bring from the same fountaines sweet water and bitter which is monstrous and contradictory Peace The pith of what Master Cotton further saith in this Chapter I conceive is couched in these demands Are not saith he all duties of righteousness to man commanded in the second table as well as all duties of holiness to God are commanded in the first table Is it not a duty of righteousness belonging to the people of God to enjoy the free passage of religion c. Is it not an injurious dealing to the people of God to disturbe the truth of religion with heresie the holiness of worship with idolatry the purity of government with tyranny and he concludes If so then these wayes of unrighteousness are justly punishable by the second table Truth I answer It hath pleased the Father of lights to open the eyes of thousands of his servants in th●se later times to discerne a fine spun fallacy in the tearm of unrighteousness and injury which being twofold spiritual against religion or spiritual state civil against the worldly or civil state It is no civil injury which he grants is the business of this 13 to the Romanes in matters of the second table for any man to disturbe or oppose a doctrine worship or government spiritual Christ Jesus and his messengers and servants did and do profess a spiritual war against the doctrine worship and government of the Jewish the Turkish and other Pagan and Antichristian religions of all sorts and sects churches and societies These all againe oppose and fight against his doctrine worship government And yet this war may be so managed were men but humane civil and peaceable that no civil injury may be commieted on either side Peace We may then well take up as Master Cotton doth Beza's own words on Rom. 13. 4. The civil sword must take vengeance on them that do evil It must therefore follow that hereticks are not evil doers which is gross c. Or else that Pauls speech is to be restrained to a certaine sort of evil deeds to wit such as they call corporal sins of which he saith he disputeth largely elsewhere Truth And so through the help of the most high shall I in proving that the second sort to wit external corporal civil evils between man and man city and city kingdomes and Nations in this faln estate of mankind wherein all civility and humanity it self are violated are alone and only intended in this Scripture by the holy Spirit of God and Paul his penman Examination of CHAP. XLVIII Peace TO the second argument to wit the incompetency of those higher powers to which Paul requires subjection which in his time were the ignorant and Pagan persecuting Emperors and their subordinate governors under them Master Cotton replies First It is one thing to yeeld subjection to the righteous decrees of ignorant and Pagan Magistrates And another thing to obey their ordinances in matters of faith and worship and government of the church The former of these Christians did yeeld unto the Romane Magistrates even subjection unto the death the other they did not nor ought to yeeld as knowing God was rather to be obeyed then man Truth Subjection may be either to lawful governors or but pretenders and usurpers Again subjection to lawful rulers may be in cases pertaining to their cognizance or in cases which belong not to their but another court or tribunal which undue proceeding is not tolerable in all well-ordered states We use also to say that subjection is either active or passive Now although we finde the Lord requiring and his servants yeelding all active or passive obedience to the Romane Emperors and their deputies yet finde we not a tittle of the Lords requiring or his people yeelding any kind of subjection to those Romane Emperors or their deputies in the matters of Christian religion except it be of so many hundred thousand of their bodies as the bodies of Lambs to the devouring jaws of those bloody lyons and devillish Monsters of more then barbarous cruelty Peace But Secondly saith Master Cotton although the Roman Emperors were incompetent Judges yet the Word of Christ which commandeth a duty commandeth also the necessary means which tend to that duty and therefore giving them a power and charge to execute vengeance on evil doers and that in matters of spiritual unrighteousness against the Church as in matters of civil unrighteousness against the Commonweal it behooved them to try and listen after the
Christ Jesus would not pray Iohn 17. Examination of CHAP. XXII Peace IN this Chapter was urged the scope of the Lord Jesus to wit to foretell the Antichristian state opposing the true Christian church and worship as also to comfort and strengthen the hearts of his followers against the grievances ari●ing therefrom and where it was urged that the church consisteth onely of good ground and that the three sorts of Bad ground visibly so declared are properly in the world and not in the church Master Cotton answers First Did not Christ preach to all these sorts of hearers in the church of the Jews Truth That national church of the Iews in its first visible constitution consisted onely of good ground Now that the other three sorts of hearers were in the church of the Iews it was an accident and corruption when they grew incurable and received not the admonitions of the Lord by the Lord Iesus and his servants preaching unto them the Lord cast them out of his sight destroyed that nationall church and established the Christian church Now what is this to the permitting of known hypocrites in the Christian church to the worlds end since that the proper seat of known hypocrisie and of all other wickedness is the world which indeed properly consisteth of the three sorts of Bad ground as the church and Garden of Christ of the honest and good ground Peace But further If saith Master Cotton the children of the church-members be in the church then they growing up to yeers become some of them like the high-way and some like the stony and some like the thorny ground Truth Admit the Christian church were constituted of the natural seed and off-spring which yet Master Cotton knows will never be granted to him and I believe will never be proved by him yet he knows that upon the discovery of any such portion of ground in the church the church is bound to admonish and upon impenitency after admonition to cast them into the world the proper place of such kind of hearers and professors Peace Master Cotton proceeds to a third answer to wit Though it be not the proper work of the church to bring up their own children to become the sincere people of God And Christ hath given his Church and his Gospel preached to it to lye like leaven in three pecks of meal till all be leavened Mat. 13. 31. And he hath given Pastors and Teachers as well for the gathering of the Saints as for the edification of the Body of Christ Truth I answer the proper work of the Pastors and Teachers is to feed the sheep and flock and not the Heards the wild Beasts in the world And although it is the duty of parents to bring up their children in the nurture and fear of the Lord yet what if those children refuse to frequent the Assemblies of the Church and what if those three sorts of bad ground or hearers will not come within the bounds of the Pastors and Teachers feeding hath not the Lord Iesus appointed other Officers in the same Ephes 4. for the gathering of the Saints that is sending out of the Church of Christ Apostles or Messengers to preach Christ Iesus to the three sorts of bad ground to labour to turn them into good ground But alas to salve up all this the civil sword is commonly run for to force all sorts of ground to come to church instead of the sending forth Rom. 10. the heavenly sowers according to the Ordinance of Christ Iesus Peace But what say you to his fourth answer viz. There is no such Resemblance between the high-way-ground and good ground as between the Tares and the wheate nor would the servants wonder at Tares in the high-way nor ask about their plucking up Truth I answer Let the high-way stony and thorny ground be considered in their several qualities of prophaneness stouiness and worldliness and all the sons of men throughout the whole world naturally are such and t is no wonder nor would the servants of Christ be so troubled as to desire their plucking up out of the world But yet againe consider all these sorts of men as professing the name and anointing of Christ Iesus in a false and counterfeit Antichristian way and then it may well be wondred whence such monstrous kind of Christians or anointed ones arose And Gods people may easily be tempted rather to desire their rooting out of the world then the rooting out of any such sorts of ground or men professing any other Religion Jewish Mahometan or Pagan Antichristian and false Christians being more opposite to the kingdome of Christ Jesus and more dangerous by how much more a counterfeit and Traytor is worse then a professed Fox an Antichristian whether Papist or Protestant worse then a Jew a Pagan Whether Indian Turke or Persian Examination of CHAP. XXIII Peace Still of the Tares THese tares saith Master Cotton are not such sinners as are opposite and contrary for then none should be opposite or contrary but they Truth I acknowledge as Master Cotton here observeth two sorts of persons opposite and contrary to Christ Jesus and his Kingdome First All sorts of sinners scandalous in their lives and courses 2. More especially opposite in point of Religion and worship as all idolaters and especially Antichristians Now every man by nature the best and wisest is opposite and contrary to Christ his word and kingdome but an idolater and Antichristian is more especially opposite to his glorious Name Truth and Ordinances And therein properly lyes the mystery of iniquity brought in by the man of sin that lawless person 2 Thess 2. most opposite or contrary to Christ Jesus the Son of God and Son of Righteousness Peace But this is a begging of the question saith Master Cotton for the question is about visible worshippers such as were discovered and declared to be what they were as well by their fruit as by their clads and therefore againe saith Master Cotton these tares were the seed and children of the Devil for why should they be called the seed of the One and the children of the Other Truth I answer the Lord Jesus distinguisheth thus He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man and the good seed are the children of the Kingdome he that soweth the tares is the devil and these tares are the children of the evil or evil one Hence by way of opposition these children of evil or evil ones being visibly such as are opposite to the children of the kingdome they cannot be hypocrites in the church untill they are discovered These children therefore of the evil one opposite to the visible kingdome and so to visible Christ Jesus in point of his kingdome church and worship though they be the children of the devil in a sence yet can they be no other but the children of the false Christ or Antichrist in the way of a false church and worship Peace Yea
M r Cottons cloake to wit that they will not meddle with the Heretick before he hath sinned against his owne Conscience and so persecute him onely for sinning against his owne Conscience yet I earnestly beseech every Reader seriously to ponder the whole streame and series of M r Cottons Discourse Propositions Affirmations c. through the whole booke and he shall then be able to judge whether it be untrue that his Doctrine tends not to constraine nor restraine Conscience 2. For the matter of fact how can he with any Humilitie before the staming eyes of the most High cry out no such practice when First Their Lawes cry out a Command under Penaltie for all to come to Church though not to be Members which in truth as hath been opened is but a colour and visard deceiving himselfe and others And a cruell Law is yet extant against Christ Jesus muffled up under the hood or vaile of a Law against Anabaptistrie c. Secondly Their practice cryes their Imprisonments Finings Whippings Banishments cry in the Eares of the Lord of Hosts and the louder because of such unchristian figleave cloakes c. Peace Let it be granted sayth M r Cotton that we did both yet this did not make Lawes to binde Conscience but the outward man onely Nor would we sayth he think it fit to binde the outward man against Conscience Truth I cannot discerne the Coherence of these three Affirmations 1. We restraine no man from Worship according to Conscience 2. We make Lawes but to binde the outward man onely And yet againe 3 we thinke not meete to binde the outward man against Conscience M r Cotton lived once under a Popish Law to weare a fooles Coat or Surplice on his back and to make a Conjuring Crosse with his Fingers why should he say that this Law went beyond his back and his fingers and came even to his Conscience If these pettie bonds did binde his Conscience as well as his back and his fingers Oh let not M r Cotton so farre put off the Bowells of Compassion toward Christ Jesus and his Followers yea toward all men as to binde their backs and their Necks their Knees and Hands backward and forward to or from Worship and yet say he binds but the outward man c. Yea and oh let not such uprightnes candor and Integritie as M r Cotton hath been noted for be blemished with such an Evasion as this to wit when it comes to selfe that Conscience his owne or his Friends be offred to be bound c. then he shall flie to his third Evasion saying We think it not meete to binde the outward man against Conscience that is against our Consciences c. What ever becomes sinck or swim of other Mens Peace In the next Passage God needs not sayth M r Cotton the helpe of the Magistrate more in the Second then in the first Table Truth God needeth not absolutely for the matters of the Second Table though respectively because he hath appointed Ordinances unto which he hath graciously referd himselfe But for the first Table he hath no neede at all of carnall weapons no not respectively because he hath appointed Ordinances to thousand-fold more potent suitable and sufficient Peace Whereas it was urged that if Magistrates must use their materiall Sword in keeping of both Tables they must be able to judge of both M r Cotton replies that it is enough that they be able to judge in Principles and Foundations and of the Arrogancie of a tumultuous Spirit for such want not Judgement to censure Apostasie or Heresie Idolatrie c. Truth It is not like that a Carpenter who hath skill sufficient to judge the Principles and Foundations of a house or Building should be unable to judge about the Beames Posts c. 2. With what great darknes have the best of Gods children themselves been covered these many hundreth yeares touching the very Fundamentalls of Gods Worship Peace Whereas it was said further that either they are not fitly qualified Magistrates and Common-weales that want this abilitie to judge c. Or else they must judge according to their Conscience M r Cotton replyes Many Qualifications are required in Husbands Wives Children Servants Ministers Churches the want whereof may make them sinfull but not unlawfull Truth I answer some Relations are Passive as that of children who may be true and lawfull children although they know not that they are children But such Relations as are active in their choice and consent as of Husband Wife Magistrate c. these cannot be lawfull unles they be fitted and qualified to performe the maine and essentiall duties of Husbands Wives Servants Magistrates That Husband Wife Servant cannot be lawfull that are engaged to other Husbands Wives Masters Nor can that Magistrate be lawfull who is a mad-man or Ideot not able to discerne between Right and Wrong and truely were Magistrates bound as to the chiefe part of their Dutie and Office to establish the true Religion c. he were no more then a mad-man as to the first Table that were not spiritually indued with ability of discerning the true Church Ministry Worship c. Peace Now whereas it was further urged that then the Common-weale the Civil Naturall state hath more Light concerning the Church of Christ then the Church it self c Master Cotton replies it followes not because that is a weak Church that knowes no more light then that of the Principles and beside what light the Common-wealth hath it may have received from the Church Truth I answer If Kings and Queens c. be nurcing Fathers and Mothers in a spirituall respect over the Church as is usually alleadged can it be expected but that the Nurse Father or Physician should know more of the Childs state then the Child or Patient himselfe who oftentimes knows not his sicknesse nor that he is sick as oft may be the case of a Church of Christ It is impossible but they must have more light then the Child yea and much more impossible that they should receive their Light and direction from the Child c. Peace We see saith Master Cotton that Magistrates sometimes have more Light in matters of Religion then the Church it self as David and Hezekiah Truth This 1 confirmes what I said that these Kings being appointed by God Formers and Reformers of the Church of Judah they must needs have more light in the matter of Reformation then the Church it selfe to be reformed 2 I must deny that David and Hezekiah were other then types of Christ Jesus both in his owne person and in such who in his absence are by him deputed to manage the spirituall power and sword of his holy and spirituall Kingdome Peace Yea but alas saith Master Cotton there is no colour that because Magistrates are bound to discerne and serve Christ with their power that therefore they may punish Christ and Christians Truth True