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A07886 A discourse of trade, from England vnto the East-Indies answering to diuerse obiections which are vsually made against the same. By T.M.; Discourse of trade, from England unto the East-Indies. Mun, Thomas, 1571-1641. 1621 (1621) STC 18255; ESTC S101128 32,159 66

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And likewise for the Bread and Bisket which is shipped from hence hath it not alwaies beene made of French Corne purposly brought ouer hither and that at a deare rate onely to preserue the plentie of our owne graine vntill now of late daies that the Farmers heere beginne to cry out and say That the cheapnesse of Corne doth disinable them to pay their deare Rents Thus doe the East India Company euerie way accommodate their proceedings for the good of the Kingdome And further concerning their Drinke is it not a very great part water Some Wine and Sider and but little Beere Also the Flesh they eate is Beefe and Porke and that onely for three daies in a weeke the rest of their victuals is Fish some Butter Cheese Pease Oatemale and other things all which is proportioned into a very sparing dyet to euerie man by allowance so that heere is no excesse nor ryot or any other meanes to make our victuals scant and deare as is by some erroniously supposed but rather by this course of life our plentie is much aduanced And so I will giue answer to the next part which is mortalitie and great decay of Marriners The life of man is so pretious that it ought not lightly to be exposed to danger And yet we know that the whole course of our life is nothing but a passage vnto Death wherein one can neither stay nor slacke his pace but all men runne in one manner and in one celeritie The shorter liuer runnes his course no faster then the long both haue a like passage of time howbeit the first hath not so farre to runne as the later Now it is this length of life which Nature seekes and States likewise endeauour to preserue in worthy men but none are accounted so worthy in this nature saue onely they who labour in their vocations and functions both for the publique good and for their priuate benefit Thus may we esteeme our good Marriners to be of no small vse vnto this Common-wealth but take them from their laudable and accustomed imployments for want of voyages to Sea wee see what desperate courses they doe then attempt by ioyning euen with Turkes and Infidels to rob and spoyle all Christian Nations so that we may conclude we must not onely breed vp Marriners but also seeke by Trade to giue them maintenance Well all this is true but say they the East India company doth neither breed nor maintaine but destroy the wonted number of our Marriners How can this be when it is most certaine that England besides the East India fleets had neuer yet more shipping then at this present neither do any of them stay at home for want of Marriners no not at this time when many hundred Saylers are employed in extraordinary seruice for his Maiestie in a Royall fleete of ships now at Sea besides those great numbers of our best Marriners which haue beene and dayly are wasted and taken prisoners by the Turkes so where is this want or what is our misery more then the want of true information in them that are so ill perswaded of our company Is it not certaine that as the East India voyages are long so likewise in Natures course many should die by length of time although they stayd at home And to recompence the losse of those that dye doe not the East India company with great prouidence yearly ship out at least 400. Landmen in their fleets which in one voyage proue good Marriners to serue the Kingdome and Common wealth vnto which many of them were a burthen before they obtained this employment And thus is the Kingdome purged of desperate and vnruly people who being kept in awe by the good discipline at Sea do often change their former course of life and so aduance their fortunes Neither indeed are these voyages so dangerous and mortall as is reported for how many of our ships haue gone and come from the East Indies without the losse of fiue men in a hundreth Others againe haue had worse successe in the first beginning when the seasons the places and their contagions were not so well knowne vnto vs yet time hath taught vs many things both for the preseruation of health and speedier performance of our voyage thē heretofore But the Method of my discourse bids me write more of this in the next part which is destruction and this I must diuide into two parts In the first I will consider the want of diuers ships sent to the East Indies which are wasted there And in the second I will answer the supposed ouerthrow of the Turkie trade together with much of our shipping which were wont to bee employed thither First therefore concerning the decay of our ships in the Indies it cannot be denyed but there hath been great spoyle of them in these three last yeares not by the dangers of the Seas or by the strength of enemies but by vnkinde and vnexspected quarrels with our neighbours the Hollanders who haue taken and surprised twelue of our ships at seuerall times and in sundry places to our vnspeakeable losse and hinderance together with the death of many of our worthyest Marriners who haue beene slaine and died prisoners vnder their hands and this hath so much the more 〈…〉 the rumour of their mortality Neither list I here to aggrauate the fact more thē thus breifly to giue answer to the obiection for our late vnion with the Dutch doth promise a double recompence of gain in time to come And they who make this Trade so poore and vnprofitable are much mistaken in the reckoning for the present losses which causeth many aduenturers so much to despaire is not in the substance of the Trade but by the euill accidents which hane befalne the same to make this point more plain I must yet declare some other particulars in which I will endeauour very briefly to set downe the summe of the whole businesse which the English hath hitherto performed in the East Indies First therefore I doe obserue that since the beginning of this Trade vntill the Moneth of Iuly last Anno 1620. there haue beene sent thither 79. ships in seuerall voyages whereof 34. are already come home in safety richly laden 4. haue beene worne out by long seruice from port to port in the Indies 2. were ouerwhelmed in the trimming there 6. haue beene cast away by the perils of the Seas 12. haue beene taken and surprized by the Dutch whereof diuers will be wasted and little worth before they be restored and 21. good ships do still remaine in the Indies So this is a true account of our ships And next concerning our stocke it is a certaine truth that in all the sayde ships there hath beene sent out in ready money as well out of this Realme as from all other places wheresoeuer beyond the Sea which hath not been landed in this Kingdom the vallue of 548090. pounds sterling in forraine