errores That in one artikle of the communion of the one kynd or vnder both he is conuinced of 36. filthy errors as Cochlaeus Reherseth at length In this giddinesse laboures Caluin whill in his booke adu gentil in diuerse his epistles to the Polonians affirmes some tyme Christ the Sone of God to be equal to his father furth with in his 2. of instit cap. 14. § 3. the same aequalitie he retractes Caluin is also variable in his opinion concerning the equalitie of Christ with his father and subiectes it to the Father alswell the diuine nature as the humane for treating how Christ in the day of judgment is to delyuer vp the kingdome to God his father than sayes he the name it self and the croun of glory and what soeuer he receaued of his father he shall again subiect to the father that God may be all in all In conclusion of this their reformed faith is not vndouted nether which they propound to be beleued is of the giddinesse of Heretikes whose variablenes and inconstancy is lyke to the windes of the heauen and therefor no faith nether religion is the profession of the reformed The last reasone is trew faith doth declare and shew the trew God trew saluation Trew faith shewes the trew God saluation and a good life The Protestāts faith is cleane contrary the trew way to liue well as also to escheu all kynd of filthynes and vncleannesse and such is the Catholik Roman faith and not Luthers or Caluins which conteine many things contrary to right reasone against diuine and humane lawes and naturall good maneres As first that infantes belieue in Baptisme Luth Luther sayes that infantes belieue in Baptisme Caluin that yt was decreed of God the sinne of Adam Caluiu sayes that God hath ordened some to life some to death and this is called his predestination Caluin makes God author of sinne contr Cochl Anno 23. Secondly that it was decreted of God that Adam should sinne Calu. lib. instit 3. c. 23. § 7. Thirdly that God hath decreed some to eternal life and other some to eternall condemnation and this is his preordination for all is not created to a lyke condition therefor as each one is made to his own proper end wither to life or to death we say that he is predestinat of God Caluin lib. 3. institut cap. 21. § 5. Morouer he makes God the author of sinne and to work iniquitie For sayes he he moueed Absalon to commit incest in that sayes he that Absalon with an incestuous commixtion defiled his fathers bed and did commit a detestable crime not with standing God pronuncis this work to be his dede and not Absalones Calu. lib. 1. inst cap. 18. § 1. ibid. c. 17 § 8. Morouer in the same book and chapter he sayes that God not only vsed the workes of the wicked but also gouerned their counsell and effects and to be author of all their scelerous deedes Againe he goeth about to glosse and defende the maiestie of God from sinne and accusation whill in the same booke both he purgeth God and makes him author of sinne and now sayes he from whence are the euills of Iob and the disobedience of Helies children which immediatly befor he hath alledged and proued to be of God and in the end plainly declaires and affirmes God to be the author of sinne how soeuer these Censorists-Papists wold of lykelyhood haue these to happen by his ydle permission Calu. lib. 1. cap. 14. § 16 cap. 18. § 4. Caluin sayes man hath no freewill but doth of necessitie A man is justified by only faith and all good workes are sinne Likewise hath he not extinguished and robbed man of freewill but to be ruled by necessitie Calu. lib. 1. cap. 15. § 1. Morouer Caluin teaches a man to be justified by only faith and good workes not only to be vnprofitable but to be abominable and how soeuer they be done of the righteous man they are euer sinne and abominable in the sight of God Calu. lib. 3. instit cap. 11. § 19. in this maner and paradoxes playeth the reformed applying against the law of right reasone and all good manners The end that heresies intendes and for the teaching of the trew faith vnto the knowledge of God and saluation and to liue Godly and well but their new no faith and hereticall reformation makes an open way to all kynd of wickednesse and to damnatiō and by this way the reformed blindes and obscures the knowledge of God which is made known by trew faith in teaching strange doctrin not to saluation but to condemnation and auouching such damnable paradoxes and opinions to the libertie of the fleshe to the following of all sensualite and wikednes and for conclusion this is the prophane bragg of the protestantes to call them selfs which they ar not no more then an ape is a man so no more ar the reformed catholikes albeit they desyre to be so called Whose reformation is inuented by the priuate inuention of particular men Heresie is by tolleration of som particular man now allowed now disproued and manteined by priuat affection of som priuat prince som tymes for fourtie yeares or fyftie as new faithes ar accustomed to be receaued now allowed now disprowed now imbraced now disliked so that this priuat faith is farr from the catholik faith which from the begining hath ben receaued and without interruption hath continued this faith may no wayes be devysed of man or inuented by man or vpon affection allowed and approwed but it must be learned of the church for faith is by hearing Bot treue faith is by hearing of the church and not be reading or reuelation as we see in the vocation of S. Paul to be a chosen vessell of God he was sent to Ananias in Damascus to learne of him what he should do also Cornelius a godlie mā and fearing god although he might haue ben taught of the angell that appeared to him yet was he not but by that same angell was commanded to send to Ioppa for Simon Peter to com to him and he shall shew thee Sayes he what thow ougthest to do So that this treu Catholik faith which the Roman church holdes is of Gods ordinance and learned of our predecessors and not as the reformed fatth is It is ane euil thing not to beleue the church deuysed and fained of new inuentions for as S. Leo sayes to Eutichian What is more wicked than to haue vngodly opinions and no◠to beleue the church and the holy fathers of the church whose wisdome and learning is in admiration to the world and therfore in the fight of all the world the reformed is condemned in vsurping their faith and name for Catholick whose entries and progress is nether of God nor for God nor sauor no point of the catholick faith nether of the catholick name for they ar allienat from this church and
accept and condiscend to our doctrine of Predestination and Reprobation Seing by them the diuyne mercy and iustice of God doth chiefly shyne claer and is made manifest Caluin lib. 3. cap. 21. 23. Piscat cont Scaff c. ANSVVER VVE Catholickes accurse your wicked doctrine who affirme that God not only from eternity hath defined and preordayned all things in perticular both good and euill before the forseen determinatiō of freewill but also that our first parents haue falne by the eternall ordination of God And that that most clement Lord whose nature is goodnes hauing no respect to our good or euill hath decreed from eternity to creat some to lyfe some to death only that in them he may declare his iustice and in other his mercy so that to one of those endes euery one is created this they call predestination and therefore lest I should seeme to forge or counterfeyt any thing contrary to verity it is requisite to produce the words of their own Rabbins to this purpose Cal. lib. 3. inst cap. 23. § 7. No man can be iustifyed sayth he whylst God hath forseen what progresse he is to haue that made him and therefore God hath forseen because by his owne decree he hath disposed what he had forseene c. For it doth appertayn to his wisdome to forsee all things which are to come and lykewyse it appertayneth to his power to rule and moderate all things with his hand Moreouer ibidem he sayth It was decreed of God that Adam should sinne morouer that it should seeme absurd to any that which I say not only God to haue forseen the fall of our first parentes and the ruine of the whole posterity in them but also to haue disposed it so by his decree and will and so we call predestination the eternall decree of God which he hath declared with himselfe what should be done of euery man For all are not created to alyke condition but some are preordinate to lyfe and others to eternall death therefore whether of those endes he hapneth on we say that to that end he is predestinat Calu. lib. 3. inst cap. 21. § 5. To iustifie Caluin Caluins and Piscatores blasphemy burst out Piscator a Caluinist in his Treatise against Scaffmā printed in Lai in Holl. 1610. pag. 26. God so created our first parents sayth he that indeed they should sinne for so much as there was no other way that he myght obtayne his owne first end which is in the declaring and showing his mercy in the saluation of some and in the manifestation of his righteousnes with iust condemnation of others thus he But as concerning this predestination to death Caluin sayth sup whom God giueth ouer to damnation these truely by his equity and righteousnes and in his incomprehensible iudgement we affirme them from the entrance to lyfe to be secuded and stoped And lykewyse euē as God with vocation and iustification doth seal his owne elect that they cannot fall euen so the reprobat by excluding them from knowledge notice of his vocation or from the sanctification of his spirit in his decree and predestination the which he declares and manifest by iustice lib. 3 cap. 21. § 7. Morouer he teaches in another place that God draueth the reprobate by force and constraineth them of necessity to the doing of wickednes and yet notwithstāding by no meanes can they be excused eyther from sinne or from the punishemēt of diuine iustice for he sayes that the reprobate would be thought excusable in sinning because they cannot eshew the necessity of sinne seing this manner of necessity is layd on them by the ordination of God Predestinatiō constreines and forceth a man to sinne after Caluins opinion But for this we deny them to be excused for asmuch as the ordination of God by which they complaine them to be ordayned or destinat to damnation standes with his equity to vs the cause is vnknowne but that equity is most certayne and vpright with him lib. 3. inst cap. 23. § 9. The which doctrine is most impious wicked cruell and blasphemous and is repugnant withstands the holy Scriptures right reason and their owne euangelical consistory of Tuguring Basil who hath reiected this doctrine of Caluin concerning predestination anno Dn̄i 1552. as witnes Bols cap. 13. Therfore what appertayneth to the euill of our fault and the forward actions of a sinner they are not predefinite and preordinate from eternity which the whole Scripture withstandes as Psal 5. where it is sayd That God loueth no iniquity neyther willeth wickednesse And as for punishement and eternall damnation to be decreed of God before the forseen malice and wickednesse of the creature or without respect of futur sinnes that God should haue predestinat and to haue created them to eternall condemnation Let Christian ears abhorre to heare such doctrine to which the Scriptures oppose which testify that God doth not pull out the sword of punishement Punishment and reuenge is a strange work to God and reuenge except he be compelled and forced by prouoking him by long continuance in sinne For this cause the prophet Isai cap. 28. v. 21. sayeth That Vengeange and the Scourge are called an vnusuall and a strange work and cap. 1. v. 24. as it were he complaineth saying by an interiection ah ah I will case me of my ennemyes I will reuenge me on my foes which interiection Heu many interpret it so that it is against his will and that he expresseth it with sorrow that force vrgeth him contrary to his will to vengance and punishment who willeth all men to be saued that his mercy not his iustice might be declared God is forced to punish man against his will for it is more proper to him to haue mercy and to spare then to punish but reuenge is a strange work to him and contrary to his nature to be a punisher Is not this fully expressed in Gen. 6. How he was forced when it is sayd that he was inwardly touched with dolour of hart and sayd I will destroy man whom I haue created Lykewyse Ezech. 18. v. 23. Is my will the death of the wicked sayth the Lord God Lykewyse Sap. 1. God made not death neyther reioyse in the perdition of the liuing But by the equity of his iustice when Sinners conuertes not he shall reioyse exceedingly in the reprobation of sinners for the ostentation of his iustice for his work of predestination is good is without any preuision or forsight of mens demerites or originall sinne who from eternity hath not decreed to determinate constraine force moue or impell the wils of any to wickednes and sinne Moreouer if the Angells and men from eternity are predestinated to reprobation to the only ostētation of Gods diuyne iustice they haue falne into a more miserable condition then all the brute beastes of the world Angels and men are created to a more miserable cōdition
then beasts are the which God hath not created to misery farelesse to eternall condemnation Whereupon it followeth that God shall first be a reuenger before man be a sinner the which S. Austen euery where reclames that it doth repugne the infinit goodnes of God and in so doing God should be more cruell then the wyld bere and lyons for there is no beast so souadge who do intend to procread their birth and whelps to a extreame misery other is none that do not nourish and promote what in them lyeth to perfection And to the contrary God shal be more vnnaturall then the brut beasts after the doctrine of Caluins theology I cannot see by what reason men can promise assure ther soules whether to presume of their saluation or to dispayer in this doctrine of predestination How shall it be in our liberty and will to perseuer in good things and hope to be saued if predestination without frewill good workes and perseuerance make a consummation what hath Christ sayd in vayne Matth. 19. If thou wilâ— enter into lyfe kept the commandements Againe he that perseuereth to the end shal be saued But this Protestant predestination annihillate the wordes of Christ for it freeth vs of the commandements and of the vertu of perseuerance and sayth all good works are vnprofitable Moreouer there followeth another absurdity that if God of his own wil without forseen sinne What absurdiues follow the ProtestaÌ„ts doctrine of predestinatioÌ„ doth reprobate men there shal be fewer reprobat then elected which is false as Matth. 7. 22. by the consequent of the Scripture is probable for God is more propense and ready to haue mercy then to condemne therefore if predestination coÌ„sist in his owne will it is to be supposed to be fare fewer reprobat to death then to haue been predestinat to lyfe wherein consisteth electioÌ„ and reprobation and of his distinctioÌ„ For it is an idle argument that you Gather of predestination to make the vindictiue iustice of God to shyne seing by reason it is rather obscured who will God first to be a reuenger before man or Angell be and to forsee and predestinat them sinners before they be creatures for by all reason it ought to be first produced what is to be punished before the punishmeÌ„t be decreed and secondly the decree of the punishmeÌ„t is to be measured according to the fact So that the difference in election and reprobation consisteth in this distinction to wit that immediat election in perfect yeares subsist in his prescience with preuision of following merites presupposing cooperating grace and mediat knowledge And in children by preuised application of the Sacraments against sinne originall Reprobation is by apositiue act of his diuyne will by which God hath decreed to condemne some to eternall punishements The cause is giuen meritorious of the part of the reprobate to wit perseuerance in mortall sinne or in originall For where there is a reason giuen wherefore the Kingdome of God is prepared for the elect before the beginning of the world is there good workes and merits for it is sayd Matth. 25. that Christ in the day of iudgemeÌ„t shall say Forseen merits and demerits are causes of election reprobation come ye blessed of my Father by predestination from eternity and by grace in the present possesse yow the Kingdome prepared for yow from the beginning of the world that is to say from eternity Adiecting the reason wherefore not only it is giuen to them to possesse but also was prepared froÌ„ the beginning because sayth he I was hungre thristie naked c. and you succoured me contrariwise to the reprobat Goe from me accursed into hell fyre which is prepared for the Diuell and his Angels for I was hungre thursty naked c. and you secoured me not so that the predestinat is elected to glory for their forseen merits and the reprobate are ordayned to Hell fyre for their forseen demerits Wherupon is the common maxime that the vulgares and idiots holde and is mantayned of all sectaries that a maÌ„ predestinat to eternall lyfe howbeit he doth euill cannot be a member of the Diueil The vulgars opinion of predestinatioÌ„ reprobatioÌ„ and contrariwyse the reprobat whatsoeuer good he doth or how well he liue cannot be a member of God By this doctrine righteous and good men are turned away from doing good workes and makes away for sinne and all vyces for hereby a man shall neyther merit nor demerite seing this Paradox teaches an infalibility that the predestinat caÌ„ do no euill and the reprobat can do good Which is false for it is not sayd to reprobat Cain disparing of the diuyne mercy of Gâ—d for which he was damned and to preuent him of reprobation he sayes Genes 4. v. 6. VVherefore art thow angry and why is thy countenance cast downe if thow doest well thow shalt be rewarded In which wordes it is euident that God promisseth to a reprobate man the reward of good things if he will worke them But the Protestants cheife designe is to extinguish all power and will to work any good thing The ProtestaÌ„ts will is to extinguish all power to merit or demerit through predestinatioÌ„ so that the predestinat cannot sinne nor the reprobate cannot merit withstanding the holy Scripture which sayes that Peter was predestinat to eternall glory and yet committed a most haynous sinne by swearing denying our Lord Matth. 26. whome before he confessed the sonne of God and King of Israell Matth. 16 Lykewyse is not S. Paul predestinat yet he himselfe confesses that he had been a blasphemer a persecuter and a wicked liuer which is the workes of reprobatioÌ„ except you would say that a blasphemer is worthy of an eternall reward then was he a blasphemer of necessity or then was he a member of the diuel for all wickednes must be of the Diuell for as S. Gregor Hom. in domin 1 Quadrag The head of all the wicked is the Diuell and the members of this head are all the wicked Thus he Who would thinke S. Paul to be predestinate and S. Peter whose deeds are opposed or how did their concurre with predestination ensuing seing as they say the predestinate cannot sinne How then haue they others sinned lyke fooles assuring your selues of predestination and eternall lyfe who cannot faill no more then Christ himself with Caluin you are not ware of presumption lib. 4. inst cap. 17. § 2. Whilst you trust in your own suppositions concerning predestination and reprobation for many haue perished who haue thought to haue ben predestinat and many hath been saued vvhose lyfe appeared to others reprobate OBIECTION THe Scripture sayth Rom. 9. v. 11. when as yet they were not borne nor had done eyther good or euill that according to election the purpose of God should remayn sure not of works but by him that calleth it is sayd that the elder shall serue the younger as it is writen
Church and approued by authority for trew doctrine according to the iudgment of men and of them who haue authority to iudge in matters of Fayth Otherwayes their mission and doctrine cannot be receaued nor belieued who without this ordinary authoritie by thēselues approue doctrine to be sufficient or insufficient and must be moued thēselues by some other preacher and his authority to belieue and therfore if there want myracles I know not how they shall approue their doctrine discusse ambiguities resolue doubtes neuer I say by their owne reasoning and vnderstanding of their priuie spirit but their doctrine shall euer be held suspect No doctrine can be known trew without myracles zuing affi mes the same And for the verity of this assertion Zuing. Tom. 2. eccl sayes how many haue vsurped the function to Preach and teach or to worke myracles were called of God cōfirmed by eléctiō of the pastores of the Church Thus he I hope Zuingl hath sayd as much as I would say that ordinary vocation is necessaey that therby God workes often tymes myracles for the maitayning of the same and therefore both lawfull mission and myracles are of God The heretycks make themselues Pastors without ordination to their shame and ignominie who sitting in the Chayre of pestilence contemne and blaspheme all lawful succession and ecclesiasticall ordination calling themselues and presuming to gouerne vvithout lawfull ordination and taking the name of Byshop on them and no man gyuing it to them as sayth S. Cyp. de Simpl. prael They succeed to none but beginne at themselues Hereticks are prophane persones Calu. flyeth to extraordinary vocation and are prophane and enemies to our Lords peace and his diuyne vnity But Caluin teaches in his book de vera eccl reform That God rayseth vp pastores extraordinarily by the inspiration of his owne spirit who should restore his decaying and ruinous Church as long since he did in the Synagogue of the Prophets And so in our tyme by the ordinary vocation of man he hath raysed Prophets and Pastors for the building of his Church as Luther Zuingl c. Whose commendations of their owne Bretheren of the Gospel is wonderfull and first The commendation of the extraordinary Pastores Towit luth and zuingl Bez. to Sanctezij calles Luther the wonderfull instrument of God most heauenly inspyred and an admirable seruant of God in whom who acknowledgeth not the spirit of God knowes nothing Iewell calls him the most excellent man of God sent of him to lyghten the world Apoc. part 4. cap. 4. § 2. Mathesius calles him the Supreme Father of the Church con 8. de lut pag. 88. Amdorff sayes that there was none lyke in the world in spirit and faith vvisdome and profunde knowledge of the Scriptures Amdorff praef tom 1. Luther Albertus calls him a trew Paul and Elyas and a man sufficient to appease and diuerte the vvrath of God from men to whō Augustin myght think no shame to be his Scholler lib. cont Carollost lib. 7. Some other call him the Angell of God Austen might haue bene Luther Scholler flying throw the myddest of heauen hauing the eternall Ghospel in his hand Illiricus in apoc cap. 14. Schussinburge sayth that Elyas and Iohn Baptist vvere but figures of Luther Elias Iohn baptist were figures of Luther Luther vituperation and disprayse of his owne professors Theol. cal lib. 2. fol. 124. in the end this extraordinary Prophet is descrybed of his owne for Schulss lib. 2. art 12. de Theol. cal calles him proude furious intolerable full of errour impudent a forger and a deprauer of Gods word deceyptfull a seducer a false Prophet lunatyck presumptuous a crucifyer and a murtherer of Christ Lykewyse Zuing. calles him a drunken dreamer and a head full of lyes Moreouer Caluin vvould be numbred amongst these Prophets Caluin would be accounted a Prophet and extraordinaryly called as is obserued in diuerse of his sermons saying I am a Prophet I haue the spirit of God am sent of God I cannot erre if I erre it is God that deceaues me and puts me in errour for the synnes of the people His myracles and lyf his Propheticall extraordinary vocatiō is rehersed of Schlussinburge one of their owne professiō His myracles and vocatiō is commēded of the professors of the Gospel lib. 2. art 12. fol. 72. de Theol. Calu. who sayes that God would not be mocked by men hath shewed his iudgment in the world against Caluin visyting him in the scourge of his fury punishing him before the day of his death for he strok this sacramētal heretyck in such sorte that he dyed desperate swearing and inuocating the diuells to whom he randered his spirit vvhich isued out of his priuy members and out of his vlcerous soores and lay so stincking that the people was notable to endure the stinck and thus miserably ended his lyf Besides this he vvas infamous by sodomy Calu. dieth desperat cursing God and inuocating the diuels his bad lyfe The Catholyckes haue registred the myracles of the Sainctes for a memory all as S. Luc did the actes of the Apostles cruell bloody tyrannous deceytfull treacherous a babler a contemner a sophist an epicure and a tosser of the Scriptures as Quid in his metamorphosis thus he So that this way they haue made their extraordinary vocation conformable to their extraordinary myracles but for the Catholyck part all the holy Fathers haue accounted of myracles and haue written the admirable lyues of the Sanctes and haue them in regyster from Christ tyme imitating S. Luc admirable and miraculous relation of the actes of the Apostles and Dauid praysing God in his Sainctes as also to follow their deuotion and holynes of because the Prophet sayes Ps 14. He that glorisyeth them that fearour Lord shall dwell in his tabernacle and rest in his holy hill For their myracles done on earth haue made them glorious in heauen for Caluin confesseth In heb 2.4 2. cor v. 12. That myracles are seales of doctrine Calu. is contrary to himselfe for now he sayes that myracles are seales of trew doctrine The Heretyks wāt myracles Myracles The ouerthrow of Idolatrie Myracls were the cause of the conuersiō of Scotland and do establish faith and Scripture Wherupon all the Sectaries haue great cause to distrust their faith as a nouelty vnsealed and vnestablished by the vertue of God for they are knowne altogeather to want myracle as also good lyfe Far otherwayes was the conuersion of Scotland from Idolatry to the Catholycke fayth which was not only by the preaching of the vvord but also was in the working of myracles as trew faith reuealed and approued from heauen with admirable holynes of lyfe and modest conuersation both in clergie and lay persons that many ages after death and solution of mortality we see and read the lyuing Lord honoured and worshipped in them whose bodyes whilst they liued were the temples of the holy Ghost
euer called Catholick as witnes Zozom l. 7. c 4. that Gratian Emperor would not permit to disput of the Roman Faith but made an edict that euery one should hould the same religion which the head of the Apostls Peter had deliuered from the beginning and that which Damasius Pope of Rome doth keep and so with Gratian all the Catholick Byshops doe call the Church of Rome Catholicks cannot be called by any other name the Heretickes themselues shall beare witnes the Mother Church and true Catholicke Church as S. Ambros orat funeb de obit frat Suppose if any man come to the portes of London or Edinburg and be asked what he is if he doth say I am a Catholick forthwith will the Protestants answere and say then thou art a papist also if he demande for a Catholick house to lodge in it will they not out of humanity conuoy him to a papists house which title name declares them to be members of the Catholicke Church for they can no other wyse be named for the word Catholick is â—he surname of a Christian and therefore of his mother he is called a Christian Catholik The Protestants could neuer be called Catholiks which no Hereticke can suffer to hear because they hate the Church for the name sake Therefore the reformed Church can no wayes be called Catholick because neyther the Lutherans Caluinistes Anabaptistes or whatsoeuer sect else separat from the Roman-Church at any tyme hath occupyed the whole world or any one Kingdome of it The Protestants are euer in suspitioÌ„ of Catholicks yea and where they professe and are surest and in the greatest feruor of their Heresie they remaine doubting in suspition of the Papists as an open enemie of their religion Wherefore their only note is to flee to inuisibilitie of the Church and to lurk in certaine corners and bragg with the Donatistes that the Catholick Church hath perished only lurketh in corners and that Church which was visible to the whole world and was through the world is obscured become inuisible and yet with the Donatists they will clame this Catholik Church and showe her visible in their corners and in obscure dennes The Protestants are lyke the Donatists of old For with the Donatistes cryeth Luth. here is Christ and his Church In Saxonie Calu. lykewyse cryes behold here is Christ and his Church In Geueua Memmo Pacimont Rotman crye Christ and his Church is in Morauia lykewyse the Puritans of Scotland crye lyke Rauens here is Christ and his Church and ech kingdome Common-welth Prouince and whersoeuer Heretickes are all crye behold Christ and his Church is here with vs. But who can belieue them when we see no tokens and markes of his Church The Protestants make a monster of Christ his Church and yet all bragge of Christ and are repugnant to themselues they make a monster of Christ and his Church there is one Christ and one Church and yet all Sectaries will haue as many Christes and as many Churches as they are deuyded in factions who fayle to be called Christian and farelesse to be named Catholiks As concerning this note Catholick see more in the first quest on The Church is called Apostolicall because of the Apostls planting excelleâ—cy and prerogatiue The fourth note is called Apostolicall because it retaines the seat of the Prince of the Apostles so that for her singular excellency and prero aâ—ue from the holy Apostle himself of all the auncient Fathers she is called Apostolicall As S. Hier. epâ—st ad Dom. To thy Holynes saith he that is I ioyne my selfe to the communion of the chayr of S. Peter And seing all the other Seates of the Apostles as Ierusalem Alexandria Antioch haue perished and are possessed of the infideles only the chayr of Rome by the prouidence of God The Apostolicall chayr still remayned vnmoued albeit Rome hath byn subiect to diuers mutations remayneth in which as S. Aug. epist 162. sayes hath euer liued the principality of the Apostolicke chayr And albeit in Rome there hath byn diuerse mutations and temporall Lordes sometyme Emperors ruling now the Goâ—hes now coÌ„suls notwithstanding the Seat of Peter hath remayned vnmoued which is done by the prouidence of God See more in the 8. question concerning the Apostolicall succession To what ende the ProtestaÌ„ts labor Cant. 4.5 Apoc. 3 Prou. 23. Ephes 5 2. â—ar 36. Zac. 7. For conclusion it is the intention of the Protestantes that there should be no Church at all but such as is none prophane obscure and satanicall They lay the fault on Christ and defende that he hath forsaken his owne spouse and to haue discharged the gouernour of the ruling his owne Ark and to haue dispysed his owne flesh Hath he permitted the Synagogue which was lesse beloued of him to remaine only seaueÌ„â—ie yeares in captiuity for her sinnes and his Church which once was visible Mat. 20. and perfect to be led into error and from error to haue perished these thâ—wsand years past hath the diligent husband man who went out diuerse tymes in the day to conduce laborers into his vyneyarde neclected it or hath byn so carrelesse to suffer and permit brambelles thornes of error superstttion to suppresse the vyhes and his vyneyard to be come a wildernesse only fit for the fyre Is the kingdome of God which in the Scripture is called his Church corrupted with error Matth. 3. and is falshood permitted to reygne in her seing the kingdome of God is the kingdome of verity Apoc. 21. Psalm 18. Apoc. 21. Matth. 18. 14. Is lykewyse the tabernacle of God set in the sonne become inuisible and obseured Is the city of God situated on an hill become confused babell Hath Hell gates preuailed against his Church Hath the shipp of S Peter byn drowned with the seas of Heresies Is the sanctuarie of refuge become adenne of dragonnes Is the mount of thy sanctification become the mouÌ„t of prophanation Is the inheritance of God soe polluted Is the strong castel with adamant walles thus beaten down O wondrous reformatioÌ„ who belieues them OBIECTION THe Lutherans and Caluinistes and moreouer all the Ghospellers agree in one vniforme defence of the reformed faith Against the Papists Ergo. ANSVVER I Grant ye agree but lyke Sampsones foxes who forthwith running hyther and thyther brunt vp the corne of the Philistins but their heades were deuyded Such are Luth. Calu. and all the rest of the crew of the Euangelistes Protestantes to wit that their tayles that is to say forces and euill will do assist and help others handes to burne the haruest of Gods husbandrie but in religion and capitall pointes they are extreame discordant through the whole articles of our faith euen vnto death OBIECTION YOw are called Papistes which is a name not pertinent to the Caâ—holicke Church but seing this name is a particular name ergo it doth also separaâ—e you from the Catholicke Communion
if we read our seruice prayer in latin the vulgar people vnderstand it not and so there is no more fruit of the hearing of it then if a man should speake to the wall ANSVVER THE Apostles saying contaynes a threefold prayer to wit the prayer of the mouth of the spirit and mynd to which these three concurre the tongue the will and vnderstanding therefore if any pray with his mouth in an vnknowne tongue he prayeth with mouth and wil if he do it for Gods cause but his mynd is without fruit to wit that he vnderstandes not because what he prayeth he vnderstandes not in the meane tyme his prayer is not without fruit for it is meritorious to him that prayeth and acceptable to God albeit it be destitute of that fruit which men conceaue by vnderstanding And therefore S. Paul striueth to declare the gift of Prophesie which is the gift of the exposition of holy Scriptures of the wordes of prayer to be more excellent then the gift of the tongue For seing dayly the nomber of the faithful increased both amōgst Ethnicks Iewes to the fayth of Christ it was not requisit to the faithfull to speake before them with many tongues but then it was their part to speak with interpretation of the Scriptures without which they vnderstood not the Scriptures But now when men are taught in the faith of Christ and with continuall preaching of the word what seruice or prayers are in the Church that men are ignorant of Therefore to what end should diuyne seruice be done in a vulgar tongue seing it is not vnknowne to the vulgar what is done in the Masse or songes of the Church whilst they cōforme their gestures to the wordes of the Priest now to stand now to bowe their kne now to left vp their handes and eyes now to knok on their briests c But to the argument which the heretick propoundeth against the Masse and Church mattens we answere that S. Paul speakes of a Prophet Preacher or Doctor to interprete the Scriptures as Hierome Austen witnes in this place Secondly that albeit the lay-men vnderstād not the wordes yet notwithstanding they vnderstād all the mysteries by preaching Therfore the hearing of masse and matines and euen songe is not vnprofitable c. howbeit they vnderstand not the wordes for these reasons Because in the diuyne seruice of the Church vsually is read the holy Scripture by which the holy Ghost speaketh to vs and powreth some grace in our hartes tongues to expresse our affection and loue towardes God Thirdely the Priest in the masse or collect is comon minister of the whole Church and therfore all hearers of Gods seruice should repose in the faith of the Catholick Church for she more pleaseth God is more acceptable to him as a most beloued spouse to her husband then the fayth of any priuat men Fourthly the end of masse and diuyne seruice is common to all whether he vnderstand or no for the end of the masse the Churches intentiō is knowne to all to wit that the sacrifice is offered for the liuing and the dead in remembrance of the death and passion of Christ to the honour of God and edification of his Church and to the honour of the Blessed Virgin Marie all his Saincts and therefore it sufficeth that we haue diuyne seruice in Latin seing it is one of the three chiefe tongues which Christ sanctifyed on the Crosse and that we appertayne to the latin Church c. QVAESTIO XX. Of the Aue Maria. HOw doth the simple Papists think that they pray when they rehearse the Angelicall salutation saying Aue Maria Aue Maria. Caluin in Harm Euang. c. ANSVVER THe Catholick Papists commit no foolishnes while they repeat the Angelical salutation as a true prayer The reason is because prayer consisteth in two partes the on is in giuing of thanks and the other in prayer therefore it is not affected folly or superstition The maior is euident because there are many Psalmes of Dauid that are only actions of thankes and yet are nombered amongst Ecclesiasticall prayers also they are nōbred by their owne iudgement in the Psalmists in this manner were Paul and Sylas at midnyght praysing and praying our Lord. Act. 16. v. 25. For the petitions desyres are included in the prayer it self Moreouer the minor is euident first because while we repeat that prayer we commemorat the benefit of our redemption by the incarnation of the sonne of God by way of thankes giuing therfore it is to be thought and adiudged for a prayer Secondly it is a prayer implicit by way of insinuation as was the prayer of the leprous-man to Christ saying Lord if thou wilt thou canst make me cleane Matth. 8 v 2. To whom Christ answered condiscending to his inward desyre and priuat prayer saying I will be thou clean Euen so in lyke manner whyl we repeat this salutation we pray-the Mother of God to haue a care of vs implicitly Thirdely the holy Church hath put to this a formall and expresse prayer in the end of the Salutation saying holy Mother of God pray for vs now and in the houre of our death Therefore it is a true prayer howsoeuer the ennemies of God and of his blessed Mother whisper and murmure against her OBIECTION YF the Angelicall Salutation be allowed of the Catholickes for a prayer Ergo when the Angell saluted the Virgin he prayed to her ANSVVER THe sequel is absurd for altough he saluted her it followes not that he prayed to her as whē the action of a thing is of a diuerse intentiō end it acquires a diuerse name and action according to philosophicall axiomes saying Actus accepit speciē ab obiecto that is to say the deede taketh his forme of the obiect As for example when any man shal giue an almes for the succour of his nyghbour this intention and end of his worke is obserued of the forme of the obiect in that he is his nyghbour poore and in the other when any man shall giue an almes to deceaue his nyghbour the first is meritorious but in the second he demerites Euen so the intention and end of the Angels salutation it was congratulatory in that she was chosen to be the Mother of Christ And therefore he is not cōuinced in this to haue prayed to her but by the same axiom to haue saluted her OBIECTION THe Papists vsurpe an others office which is wronge whyle they salut the Blessed Virgin Mary they vsurpe the office of the Angell therefore they sinne in making this salutation which is not proper for them to do but the Angell ANSVVER I Deny the vsurping of an others office this is inuented of Caluins owne head But Athan. in Euāgel de dei para sayth that all the Spirits of the celestiall Hierarchies doe incessantly sing in Heauen this glorious and vnspeakable hymne and for this cause it followeth that not only this