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A54154 The invalidity of John Faldo's vindication of his book, called Quakerism no Christianity being a rejoynder in defence of the answer, intituled, Quakerism a new nick-name for old Christianity : wherein many weighty Gospel-truths are handled, and the disingenuous carriage of by W.P. Penn, William, 1644-1718. 1673 (1673) Wing P1305; ESTC R24454 254,441 450

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in_o christ_n although_o the_o measure_n of_o that_o manifestation_n be_v different_a what_o say_v john_n faldo_n to_o these_o thing_n be_v not_o we_o outdone_a in_o our_o expression_n by_o profess_a minister_n and_o those_o of_o the_o independent_a and_o baptist_n way_n shall_v we_o be_v style_v blasphemer_n that_o more_o modest_o utter_v our_o belief_n whilst_o these_o man_n notwithstanding_o pass_v for_o orthodox_n i_o hope_v j._n faldo_n have_v more_o reverence_n for_o j._n caryl_n then_o to_o question_v his_o judgement_n in_o the_o licence_n of_o the_o first_o and_o not_o so_o little_a respect_n for_o the_o two_o last_o as_o to_o cry_v out_o heresy_n blasphemy_n etc._n etc._n chap._n x._o three_o scripture_n rescure_v from_o the_o false_a gloss_n of_o our_o adversary_n joh._n 1._o 9_o rom._n 10._o 3._o 2_o
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that_o this_o be_v his_o mean_v take_v his_o own_o word_n as_o they_o lie_v in_o his_o own_o book_n part_v 2._o p._n 85._o and_o this_o i_o take_v to_o be_v the_o import_n of_o the_o four_o verse_n 10._o 1._o in_o he_o be_v life_n and_o the_o life_n be_v the_o light_n of_o man_n that_o be_v the_o salvation_n and_o life_n eternal_a of_o poor_a sinner_n be_v wrap_v up_o in_o christ_n as_o god_n who_o be_v so_o qualify_v be_v capahle_n of_o work_v it_o i_o say_v again_o and_o all_o reasonable_a man_n must_v acknowledge_v i_o do_v not_o wrong_v his_o mean_v but_o give_v his_o sense_n and_o not_o i_o to_o be_v sure_a there_o be_v no_o such_o word_n as_o these_o yea_o and_o as_o man_n too_o which_o be_v just_a as_o if_o i_o shall_v say_v the_o understanding_n of_o a_o man_n be_v wrap_v up_o in_o he_o as_o he_o be_v a_o reasonable_a creature_n &_o be_v charge_v with_o a_o self-contradiction_n shall_v absurd_o add_v yea_o and_o as_o a_o animal_n too_o there_o needs_o so_o point_v at_o so_o 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i_o say_v again_o that_o his_o drift_n be_v to_o unconcern_v that_o be_v the_o true_a light_n in_o any_o other_o time_n then_o christ_n come_v in_o the_o flesh_n 9_o to_o which_o i_o oppose_v about_o a_o page_n and_o a_o half_a of_o which_o he_o have_v report_v not_o above_o four_o line_n and_o those_o not_o as_o they_o lay_v take_v it_o reader_n brief_o thus_o if_o the_o word_n that_o make_v all_o thing_n which_o be_v with_o god_n and_o be_v god_n be_v that_o true_a light_n as_o say_z j._n faldo_n himself_o p._n 84._o than_o can_v it_o never_o be_v restrain_v to_o that_o appearance_n as_o the_o beginning_n or_o end_n of_o it_o
nay_o the_o evangelist_n be_v not_o yet_o come_v so_o much_o as_o to_o mention_v any_o thing_n of_o his_o manifestation_n in_o flesh_n and_o if_o we_o will_v believe_v j._n faldo_n the_o verse_n concern_v the_o word_n creator_n and_o not_o redeemer_n which_o he_o stint_v to_o his_o come_v in_o the_o flesh_n see_v pag._n 89._o but_o by_o his_o interpretation_n that_o be_v not_o relative_a to_o his_o appearance_n in_o the_o flesh_n but_o to_o the_o word_n which_o be_v with_o god_n and_o be_v god_n as_o p._n 84._o and_o so_o the_o spanish_a translation_n have_v it_o that_o word_n be_v the_o true_a light_n etc._n etc._n so_o that_o either_o the_o word_n be_v not_o before_o that_o appearance_n or_o if_o it_o be_v be_v that_o true_a light_n that_o true_a light_n be_v before_o that_o appearance_n therefore_o mankind_n may_v very_o well_o be_v say_v to_o have_v always_o be_v enlighten_v by_o that_o light_n or_o that_o the_o word_n shall_v be_v before_o that_o appearance_n and_o that_o true_a 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