Ordinances and Statutes Christ commanded the Apostles and his Disciples which was the first Church the very same must be taught to the successive Churches in all ages to the worlds end the consequence is clear which is that Christs Ordinances and Statutes are to be taught upheld and practised after Christ and the Apostles by their successors in all ages till the worlds end And this further appears for as Christ promised them that in their so doing that he would be with them to the end of the world even so the holy Apostle Paul saith as touching that holy Ordinance of breaking of bread and eating of it and blessing of wine and drinking of it in commemoration of Christs death that their doing of it was to shew forth the Lords death till he came again To which I find these two objections viz. as first to that in Mat. 28. Loe I am with you always to the end of the world That is saith Mr. Henden to the end of that age and this he said to me in that discourse above mentioned to which I say now as I said then to him It seems very strange to me that a man that professeth Schollar-ship and godliness should say so without shame and blushing for confident I am that if Mr. Henden knoweth any thing he knoweth this that although the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 may be taken for age yet it is to be understood the end of age or the whole time at least of Christs ascention till his coming to judgement for if it were to be understood only that age or generation then in being then the word would have been rendred thus 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which is a word used by the same Evangelist for generation Mat. 24.34 and it is frequently used for the present age or generation but a few words to observe the sequal or obsurdities of the consequence which is By Mr. Hendens opinion preaching and baptizing and the promise of Christs presence with his people was to continue no longer than that present age that the Apostles lived in for preaching and baptizing and the promise of Christs presence is the things that Christ speaks of in Mat. 28.19 20 21. And that is to be understood but to continue but for that present age saith Mr. Henden and yet he saith in the second page of his book intituled A glass of some new discoveries That the Ministry and Baptisme and Communion was to remain and did not fall in all the times of Apostasie And how these things agree together or whether they come not from a Babel understanding I shall leave the serious reader to Judge and pass to the next Objection which is in answer to Saint Pauls words to the Corinths 1 Epistle 11. Chap. which saith So often as you eat of that bread and drink of that cup shew ye the Lords death till he comes But say some here I do not accuse Mr. Henden but rather the generation of men commonly called Quakers affirming that Christ is already come meaning that he is come in spirit dweling in the hearts of the Godly To which I answer and say that they which had obtained that injoyment even the Church of Thessalonica which was in God even they did expect that personal coming of the same Jesus that was crucified and raised again form the dead which delivered us from the wrath to come and that the Church of Thessalonica was a Chruch in God read 1 Thes 1.1 8. And that the word of the Lord sounded out from them read vers 8. and yet for all that they waited for Christs appearance vers 10. chap. 2.19 chap. 3.13 chap. 4.15 16 17 18. 2 Thes 1.7 many places of holy Scripture might be brought to prove this but time is pretious and also because this Church is a people much spoken of by them I only bring this Epistle although I could bring Peter and James and John to prove this at large but I leave this objection and the former and shall shew you several grounds and reasons why all the Ordinances of Christ shall continue practicable and to be practised by the Lords people till his second coming Reas 1. The first ground and reason is because the Commission doth not only direct command the Apostles Ministry to teach men to observe all things viz. all Christs Statutes and Ordinances but also commands that it should be made known to all the World successively that every creature may hear of it for the obedience of faith and he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved Mark 16.15 16. Mat. 28.18 19 20. In short I shall observe only these three things which is First that it was the will of Christ that the Apostles should teach the observation of ALL HIS STATVTES Secondly as it was his will to have the observation of all his Statutes taught so also it was his will that the observation of all his Statutes should be taught to all men namely all Nations or every creature that is where ever the sound of the Gospel went which hath or shall be preached to all nations for a witness Mat. 24.14 Revel 14.6 Thirdly it was also his will that all men might know that in their observing all his Statutes and Ordinances unto the end that they should not only obtain salvation at the last but in the mean time in the observation of his Statutes and Ordinances they should have his spiritual presence with them alwayes to the end of the World that is he would as well manifest his spiritual presence with the successive generations to the end of age as to the age or generation then present Object But some will say that God doth not manifest himself in our age as he did in the primitive age for they could work mircales so cannot we To this I briefly say at present because I do intend to speak more largely to it anon that God hath manifested himself very gloriously to many that never wrought any miracle as I think none wil deny for John did no miriacle and yet God did manifest himself very excellently to him but more of that anon and at present I pass to the second ground reason to prove that all the Ordinances that Christ appointed in his last will and testament are to continue till his second coming Reas 2. Because when Christ ascended up on high as he left his mind and will what he would have done even so he gave gifts to men some to be Apostles viz. Messengers and some Prophets and some Evangelists and some Pastors and Teachers for the gathering or perfecting of the Saints for the work of the Ministry for the edifying of the body of Christ till we all come into the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God unto the perfect man unto the measure of the stature of Christ that we HENCEFORTH mark that be no more children tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of
from him for Christ hath destroyed him that had power over death which is the Devil and hath delivered us by Resurrection who by the reason of the fear of death were kept in slavery all our life long For nothing would be so troublesome to the godly as the thought of death were it not for a Resurrection but saith the Lord I will ransome them from the power of the grave I will redeem them from death O Death I will be thy Plague O Grave I will be thy destruction He will swallow up death in victory and the Lord will wipe away tears from all faces Hosea 13.14 Isa 25.8 2 Sam. 14.14 Heb. 2.14 From these Reasons and Scriptures and many more which might be added we may clearly see That the dead namely such as do now and shall sleep in the dust shall arise both good and bad and come to Judgment And now courteous Reader seeing it is so that the dead as before said must arise and come to Judgment be exhorted to take up that good resolution with the holy man Job 14.14 which saith If a man die shall he live again then all the dayes of my appointed time will I wait till my change come giving thanks alwayes to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the Resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled that fadeth not away Therefore gird up the lines of thy mind waiting for that blessed hope and glorious appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ who will change our vile bodies and fashion them like unto his glorious body according to his promise and mighty working whereby he is able to subdue all things unto himself who hath abolished death and brought life and immortality to light To whom be praise and glory for ever and ever Amen 1 Pet. 1.3 Phil. 3.20 21. 2 Tim. 1.10 Secondly take this word of advice by way of Caution which is take heed and beware of giving heed to such as do deny the Resurrection of whom there is two sorts now in our dayes as there was in the Apostles dayes the one sort is like unto the Saduces Mat. 22.23 which deny that there is any Resurrection Angels or Spirits viz. God or Devil Heaven or Hell of that sort is the Ranter and his adherents and such like Athiestical Spirits And the other are like unto HYMENEVS and PHILETVS 2 Tim. 2.17 18. who say that the Resurrection is already past whose words eat as doth a canker and of this sort is the Quakers who doth affirm that he is already risen from the dead and in the Resurrection and so the Resurrection is past to him who denyeth iniquity in words in the history and yet heaps up iniquity upon iniquity in the mystery And these are the two sorts which may fitly be compared unto the Sect of the Saduces and to Hymeneus and Phyletus and I do not report the things whereof I write by hear-say but from their own mouths the more is the pitty and to be lamented These two sorts differ in manners or conversation but very little in Judgment in point of doctrine unless it be in that of conversation as before said the which if they had the conversation of Angels and yet so corrupt in principle the Scripture declares them to be in a cursed and miserable condition Gal. 1.6 7 8 9. Col. 2.18 19. Acts. 3.23 24. And indeed the conversation of many of them is bad enough although they disfigure their faces and seem unto men to fast from sin and to be more righteous then others yet they have been seen to want that special duty of prayer in their families and giving thanks in the presence of their Families for their food which God hath bestowed on them although Christ and the Apostle did not neglect to do their duty in that case to lead us an example but no more as to this I shall leave it until the day in the which God will try the wayes of the sons of men and discover all deceit and falsehood of what nature soever it be But as touching the opinion about Gods holy Ordinances by which he hath appointed to be worshipped in is sleighted and rejected by them as water-Baptisme and eating of Bread and drinking of Wine solemnly celebrated to set forth Christs death and a participation of the benefit thereof with the slightings of forms as they call them although God delight in nothing which is out of form and order as the host of Heaven and earth doth declare who when God found them without form and void did by his word put them in form and order and gave decrees to the Sea and ordinances unto the Sun Moon and Stars and they keep them so that God delights in form and order and also is a God of order in all the Churches of the Saints hence Saint Paul commended form Rom. 6.17 18. in these words But ye have obeyed from the heart that form of Doctrine which was delivered unto you being therefore made free from sin ye became the servants of Righteousness c. From whence you may see That those men which do slight and deny forms in our dayes have not received that Spirit which was in the Apostle but another Spirit even the Spirit of error although it strive to transform it self into an Angel of light that thereby it may deceive the hearts of the simple for men are got to this height of wickedness in the mystery as to think that they comprehend all things and so consequently are Gods but they shall die like men for their breath is in their nostrils yet talk of what you will almost it is in them as they say as the first Adam and the second and God and also the Serpent slain within them the tree of life and the tree of knowledg the judgment seat Heaven and Hell Mount Zion and the new Jerusalem the two witnesses and what not they have comprehended all these things as they say but alass they die and in the very same time their thoughts perish and they are chased and gone like a vision of the night Mark one peece of horrible pride of Spirit which is in them they will not allow the holy Scriptures to be called the word of the Lord neither do they exhort and press men to be diligent to read and keep the things contained therein but their fraughty books must some of them bear the Title of the word of the Lord to the world and earthly men and the like so that he that seeth but very little may see them to be the men before spoken of which shall deny all that is worshipped as God shewing themselves that they are God O horrible pride and yet pretended humility this is ungodliness in a mystery I shall not enter upon the particulars of their bottomless opinion first because it is not my task at this time and
the Scriptures and if thou find in this Treatise any thing that seems strange unto thee be not over hasty to condemn it or the Author but know assuredly that he is one that aimeth and strives after Truth as much as thy self who ever thou art and know that the things that are disapproved of by men are the things that are chosen of God and precious and that in all Ages as I have formerly said the Truth of God hath been accounted Heresie and the assertors thereof Hereticks and turners of the world upside down therefore it much concerns thee to be earnest with God in prayer and supplication to give thee a discerning spirit that thou mayest discern between Truth and Error I have in the following Treatise shewed in a methodical order what Baptism is and that it is not Sprinkling or scattering a little water in the face of the Subject no but a Dipping or Plunging or a thorow washing of the person Baptised and also that the Subjects to be Baptised are not Infants as such but such as have first believed in the Lord Jesus or at least such as do make a visible profession of faith such were those that John the Baptist Baptised for they came and confessed their sins and was Baptised of him in Jordan and also when the Eunuch said to Plilip See here is water What hindreth me that I may not be Baptised and he said If thou believeth with all thy heart thou mayest and the Samaritans when they did believe the things concerning the Kingdome of God and the name of Jesus they were Baptised both men and women So that the Scripture is plain that testifieth what Subject should be Baptised And that conceit or more properly great deceit about Original Sin in saying That Infants dying in their Infancy without being Baptised are damned and so bring in Infants Baptism to purge away Original Sin I have shewed is no such thing but a dream of mens own brains and that there is not one Text of Scripture from Genesis to the Revelation which saith that any shall die the second Death for Original Sin nay the second Death was not so much as threatned in any one Text of Scripture either upon Adam or any of his posterity for that sin but the Death of the Body was threatned and also executed for saith the Lord Dust thou art and unto Dust thou shalt return And as touching Mans Mortality it is a general received Opinion That the Soul of Man is Immortal and dyeth not although the Scripture saith that Christ poured out his Soul to death and made his Soul an offering for sin but it is supposed that when men die their Souls if they have done evil go immediately to Hell and in the Resurrection come again from thence to be judged to see whether they deserve it yea or nay as though Souls should be put into their torments before they are tryed and judged to see whether they have deserved it yea or nay for although some mens sins go before to Judgment so as that they are convicted before death yet some mens sins come after them that there is not the sense of their sins at the time of death but they come after them unto Judgment these things I have shewed my opinion upon also the which amongst men is strangely looked upon as a gross Error however peruse it for there is no dangerous consequence in it for he that believeth it or he that believeth it not may both meet with Abraham Isaac and Jacob in the Kingdom of God if they walk uprightly according to their several measures although if it be a Truth as it appears to me to be it is very necessary that every godly man know it for several reasons that I could give But as touching the Resurrection of the Body which I also have spoken to that is of such weight that without believing it and being stedfast in the same it makes Preaching voyd and Faith voyd and whosoever doth deny it their words eat as doth a Canker and indeed I do not see as yet how such men as deny it can be saved I have also shewed the great and universal love of God to all men which is the ground of Faith and Salvation to all that do believe and be saved which is a very comfortable Doctrine to all men and I think that none can have cause to be offended at it but such as have their eyes evil because Gods eye is good And as touching the Personal Reign of Christ upon Earth viz. on the Throne of his Father David in Zion in Jerusalem is that which causeth the godly to rejoyce with joy unspeakable and full of glory and it is that which Christ hath commanded us to pray for though we understand it not as we should do when we pray Thy Kingdome come thy will be done in Earth as it is done in Heaven but that he is to receive a Kindome and Reign upon Earth I have proved in its particular order although briefly I have also added a second Part entituled The good ancient Laws and Statutes of King Jesus Vindicated wherein I have proved the continuance of all the Laws and Ordinances of the Lord Jesus given forth in his last Will and Testament with many Objections answered And also have shewed who is the travelling Woman spoken of in Revellations 12. and who is her Man-child and who is the Remnant of her Seed and to what Wilderness she is to flea into and for how long and who are the two Witnesses and the time and place of their Prophesie and many such like things which I have shewed my opinion upon in the following Treatise and therefore I desire thee courteous Reader to peruse these things seriously and desire the Lord to give thee an understanding heart to receive it so far forth as thou findeth it agreeable to the Word of the Lord and sound Reason It should have been published long before this time if extraordinary occasions had not hindred me therefore it is my desire that they that have long waited for it may excuse the matter because many are sensible of my great occasions taking me off from finishing of it sooner So desiring the Lord to make it to be a word in season unto thee and to fill thy heart with joy thorow believing and also with the fruits of righteousness that having thy fruit in holiness the end may be everlasting life which is the desire of Thy Friend and Brother in the Faith and Profession of the Gospel of Christ GEORGE HAMMON THE CONTENTS OF THE Principal Matters Contained in this BOOK B BAptism to be Dispenced to such as are of ripe years and of understanding Page 5. to page 12. Baptism may not be Dispenced to Infants for several Reasons page 13. to page 25. Of the Battel of the great Day and the Destruction of Gogg and his Company page 89. to page 92. G Of Gods universal Love unto all men and how far
5.12 13 14. in which time lived Abraham Isaac and Jacob and Noah and Lot and several others over whom the second death had no power and yet that death which Adam purchased by his sin passed upon all men and also reigned over them which sheweth That the wages of Adams sin in Paradise was but the first death for that death Abraham Isaac and Jacob and the rest tasted of and so it reigned from Adam to Moses over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adams transgression that is against a prescript Law upon penalty of death which proveth That it was Adams sin and we in him which brought that first death upon us but as for the second death it reigned not over those holy men that lived between Adam and Moses neither doth it pass or reign over any till after the Resurrection and the eternal Judgement for THEN shall the Wicked be cast into the Lake of Fire which is the second Death Rev. 20.12 13 14. So then that Death which entered into the World for Adams sin the which all tasted of from Adam to Moses is seen to be no other death but what God threatned and pronounced in the sentence namely Dust thou art and to Dust thou shalt return even the first death And thus I pass to the Answer of some few Objections offered by my Antagonist And the first is a Quotation Romans 5.16 with Chap. 8.1 Object 1. The offence of one sin came upon all to Condemnation i.e. Damnation compared with Rom. 8.1 Answ This Quotation hath been already Answered yet I shall speak a few words to it in this place which is That the word Condemnation is used for the first death as well as for the second as in Luke 23.40 And it is used indefinitely in Rom. 8.1 There is therefore no Condemnation to them that are in Christ Jesus it may be read there is therefore no death to them that are in Christ Jesus But you will say Yea the Righteous do die the first death But if you take notice Paul is shewing in that place that Christ delivereth from that body of death and in Christ we have victory and shall conquer the grave and so in that sense there is no death to the Righteous for the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 being an adverb is undeclined but 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is the same only it being declined may be read Judgement or Punishment or Death and you do only say the words differ but give no Reason worth a figg to prove it only you say that one sin was against Man and the other against God your meaning is The Malefactors sin was only against Man and Adams against God But I pray be serious do you not think that the Malefactor sinned against God Or is not Murder or Stealing or the like a sin against God What means this Discourse if it argue not gross ignorance I am very much mistaken in my Judgement But looking a little forth I find you citing an old Argument of Mr. Perkins's which is That sin that is committed against an infinite God deserveth an infinite punishment but Adams sin was such Ergo Where art thou Hammon saith my Antagonist To which I Answer and say That it is not our Question what Adams sin deserved but what the punishment was which God was pleased to inflict upon Adam for that transgression the which I before have proved to be but the first death and such like punishment And also I do say and have said That Adams sin was so great that it caused him to lose all that God gave him and to lay his honor in the dust and yet notwithstanding it made him no more guilty of the second death than the Beasts which touched the Mountain and therein offended God and must be thrust thorow with a Dart and yet lost no more than what it had to lose Heb. 12.20 And if I should deny your Major Proposition you would be troubled to prove it because Mr. Perkins hath not done it already for you And whereas you ask by way of a jear Where I am I could tell you That I may be found through Mercy at my Native place although as for your part if I should ask where you are as in reference to either your Judgement or Habitation men know not and it is possible you care not they should know where you are to be found but this by degression I pass and come to the Third Objection which is say you Object 3. If Adam brought but a temporal death on men then Christ died but a temporal death to satisfie God Answ That Christ did not die the second death that is to say Christ did not suffer in the Lake of Fire and Brimstone is clear for if he had he had been irrecoverable Take notice that there is a great gulph fixed so that those that once come into that place take heed cannot go thence any more Fie fie what did Christ suffer in Hell with the Devil and Damned spirits No surely although your Creed have taught you so to beleeve And whereas you say That Christ was made a Curse for us it is acknowledged that he was hanged upon a Tree and cursed is every one that hangeth upon a tree But I hope that it is but a temporal curse for otherwise there be many of the Saints that have so suffered and then are in a cursed estate and condition if your opinion be true but it is not And whereas you say That my Opinion makes Children but a little beholding to Christ for if he had not come they had died but a temporal death and so they do still To which I Answer and say It is true that if Christ had not come they had died but a temporal death for that sin committed in Paradice and also that they do die a temporal death notwithstanding and yet your Conclusion false for Christ is very beneficial to them notwithstanding so that if I had the tongue of men and Angels I could not express it as I should do Time is pretious take this in short That Christ brings them to a resurrection and brings all the glory that is spoken of in the Scripture to be there portion at the other side of the grave I could be very large but I must speak now by figures as we say and not by words at length and leave you and the Reader to enlarge it in your understanding And for as much as you desire me to inform you what should have become of the soul of man I shall shew you my opinion about it and the grounds and reasons from the Scripture and if I be mistaken in it I hope some sympathyzing tender heart will be as ready to inform me better in it as the captious Spirit will be to cavil at it and I hope I shall receive such information with humility of mind and thankfulness of heart and so I pass to the Subject of Discourse
his flesh with his eyes and not others should he see Christ his Redeemer in the latter day stand upon the earth whom he should behold for himself and not another So then the very same Job that then was in misery the very same Job was afterwards to see the Lord to which add that the very same body that suffereth with Christ the very same body shall raign with Christ for it is against pure justice that one body should suffer with Christ or for Christs sake and then another body glorified and that body which suffered to perish for ever this cannot be in justice which also proves that the same body shall arise out of the dust And so I pass to the sixth Reason further to prove that the dead bodies of men which now are asleep in the dust of the earth shall awake live and be raised again from the dead which is Reas 6. Sixtly Because Daniel further confirms the truth of this saying Many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake some to everlasting life and some to shame and everlasting contempt Dan. 12.2 In this text there is these two things considerable the first is that such as sleep shall awake and Secondly the place where that they sleep and that is in the dust and Thirdly that it is not meant spiritually that is to say to awake out of a state of a sleep of sin to Righteousness because some of those that awake do awake to everlasting shame and contempt which cannot be taken in a spiritual fence for I hope no man is so void of understanding as to think that such as awake out of sin and stand up from a spiritual death that they awake to everlasting shame and contempt but some of those that do awake Daniel saith do awake to everlasting shame and contempt which sheweth that those that die and sleep in the dust that the very same shall arise again even that which sleeps both of good and bad some to everlasting Joy and some to shame and everlasting contempt which clearly proveth that the dead bodies of such as sleep in the earth shall even they themselves and not another arise And thus I pass to the seventh reason to prove the Resurrection which is Reas 7. Seventhly Because Saint Paul saith That the dead in Christ shall rise first Now this cannot be meant spiritually first because those that be in Christ cannot be spiritually dead that is to say dead in trespasses and sins and secondly if it should be Objected that there may be dead branches in the Vine John 15. then I answer that such shall forthwith be cut out and have no priviledge by Christ but the dead in Christ spoken of both by Saint Paul and Saint John have priviledge by being dead in Christ which means the death of the body and the Resurrection of the body from the dead that is to say the godly even such as live and die in Christ shall arise a thousand years before the wicked as you may see 1 Thes 4.14 15 16. compared with Revel 20.5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12. And that this is no spiritual Resurrection but a Resurrection of the body is plain because it is that which the Apostle is a speaking of in that place as you may read 1 Thes 4.13 14 15 16. In these words I would not have you ignorant brethren concerning them that are a sleep that ye sorrow not even at others that have no hope For if we believe that Jesus dyed and rose again EVEN SO mark that them also that sleep in Jesus will God bring with him For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord that we that are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep For the Lord himself shall descend from Heaven with a shout with the voyce of the Archangel and with the Trump of God and the dead in Christ shall rise first Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the Air and so shall be ever with the Lord. From whence we may see clearly that the Apostle is speaking of the Resurrection of the body for saith he If we beleeve that Jesus dyed and rose again EVEN SO them ALSO that sleep the even so implyeth that as Jesus slept and rose again even so shall we sleep and rise again and we may know that the same body that was crucified unto death and was buryed even the same body rose again for so saith Christ to Thomas after his Resurrection Come feel the Print of the nails in my hands and reach hither thy hand and feel my side that is piersed so that we may see it was the same body which was crucified dead and buryed which also rose again even so shall our bodies even the self-same body arise out of the dust of the earth and come to Judgment And so I pass to the eight Reason to prove that those that are now asleep in the dust of the earth shall arise from the dead which is Reas 8. Eightly Because Christ hath proved it from the Scripture and the Spirit of God in his People have caused them earnestly to hope and wait for it and first that Christ hath proved it read Mat. 22.31 32. in these words As touching the Resurrection saith Christ of the dead have you not read that which was spoken unto you by God saying I am the God of Abraham and the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob God is not the God of the dead but of the living In these words Christ is proving the Resurrection in opposition to the opinion of the Saduces which held that there was no Resurrection but Christ tels them that they did err no knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God as much as if he should have said if you had known the Scriptures you would have believed and acknowledged the Resurrection for they bare their Testimony to the truth thereof or if you had been well instructed about the power and omnipotency of God it would not have seemed to be a thing so incredilous unto you that God should raise the dead for saith he God did tell Moses that he was the God of Abraham and of Isaac and of Jacob and God is not the God of the dead but of the living but now Abraham Isaac and Jacob is dead as if Christ should say therefore God is not their God upon your account O ye Saduces but God is the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob for they live to him that is in his account for God seeth all things past present and to come and calls things that shall be as if they were Rom. 4. And so he seeth all men risen from the dead and stand before him alive in a Resurrection and thus all live to him viz. in his account and this is to be understood in this text as I before have
that Christ did not say in so many words that John should not die for if he had it might have begat some dislike and murmuring amongst his Disciples but he spake so plain that his Disciples that had the holy Spirit did so understand him and John himself who writ these things doth not contradict their opinion but only saith over the words that Christ had said which is But if I will that he tarry till I come what is that to thee and indeed their was great reason that John who wrote these things should be very sparing in the delivering of it seeing Christ was sparing and because the matter concerned himself that he might not gain any dislike or hatred from any of the Disciples because of that thing and as touching Johns death I say it cannot be proved that he did ever die neither do I believe that he did till I see better reason then I yet see to prove it and if it be an errour it is no other thing then what was received and believed of the Disciples of Christ in that day and they no where reproved for so believing but because I am a speaking of Johns death I shall shew you the opinion of some or what they have written as touching his death although I would not be understood to believe all what is written concerning him Jerome saith alledging it out of Tertullian that in the time of Nero though others say in the raign of Domitian he was thrown at Rome into a tun of boiling oyle and thereby he took no harm but came forth after this tryal purer than he went in and so saith Abdias Augustine calls him a Martyr by will and that which he writes of his end is strangest of all which is that John at Ephesus caused his grave to be made and in the presence of divers went in alive and being no sooner in but there seeming he was dead they covered him which kind of rest saith he was rather to be termed a sleep than death for that the earth of the grave bubleth or boileth up after the manner of a well by reason of Johns resting therein and breathing a sign of his slumbering therein as you may see August in John Tract 124. also repeated by the translator in his discourse of the Apostles and seventy Disciples in Eusebius 533 Eusebius Pamphilius himself saith that he dyed at Ephesus Eusebius lib. 3. cap. 28. and indeed there is division amongst ancient writers as touching John but I shall leave these things and come to the second Reason which is Secondly Because the Angel told John that he must Prophesie again not preach again before many people and nations and tongues and kings which relates to the time of the Nations being gathered together against Jerusalem in the time of the Antichrist and the ten Kings that shall give their power unto the Beast until the word of God be fulfilled Zech. 14.1 2. Dan. 7.24 Revel 17.12 13 14. In this time unto these people or Nations was John to Prophesie Revel 10.11 Thirdly John saith There was given to ME a reed like unto a rod and the Angel stood saying rise and measure the Temple of God and the Altar and them that worship therein But the Court without the Temple leave out and measure it not for it is given vnto the Gentiles and the holy City shall they tread under foot forty and two moneths And I will give power unto my two Witnesses and they shall Prophesie a thousand two hundred and threescore dayes clothed in sackcloth Revel 11.1 2 3. From whence we may see that John had not only as it were a new gift of Prophesie to be given unto him that he might Prophesie again before Nations tongues and Kings and the like but also he was the man that was to measure Jerusalem at the time of its last building when the holy City was to be taken by the Gentiles and trodden under foot as I before have proved and he is the other Prophet with Elias which the Jews look for before the great day of the Lord and demanded of John the Baptist if he was either of them and he said no and they demanded of him why he then Baptized to prepare a people for the Lord saying Why Baptiseth thou then if thou be not that Christ nor Elias neither that Prophet from whence we may see that the Jews look for Elias and another Prophet whose name is not mentioned and therefore he is called that Prophet or a Prophet not naming him John 1.21 25. As the Disciple who was to tarry until Christ come is not plainly mentioned but called the Disciple whom Christ loved who leaned upon his Breast at Supper and the like but we understand him to be John because the Text saith this is the Disciple that testifieth of these things and wrote these things and we know that his testimony is true so then the Jews look for Elias and his companion another Prophet even John to be forerunners of Christ and such are the two Prophets which are called the two Witnesses to be and doubtless are the same persons for they are such as shall be slain implying that they are such men as yet have not tasted of death and although some suppose that Enoch or Moses shall be Elija's companion to be one of the two Prophets yet it is not my Judgment for there is no reason for Moses to be one who hath tasted of Death already neither is there any mention made of him as to such a work and as for Enoch there is nothing spoken of him neither in reference to that work but of Elias there is and also of John for he is to measure the City and to prophesie again before Kings and there is great reason that one of these two Prophets should be of the new Testament a witness to Jesus as well as Elias of the old Testament and yet both to be of the seed of Abraham as Elias and Iohn was and finally the people that the two Witnesses were to Prophesie unto is the remnant of the Womans seed which remain in Ierusalem and the place where they prophesie is in Ierusalem in the presence or before Kings and Nations and the like gathered together into Ierusalem in which place the two Witnesses shall be slain when they have finished their Testimony by the Beast namely the Antichrist and at the end of three dayes and an half the Spirit of life shall enter into them again and they shall ascend into Heaven to meet the Lord and his glorious army just at the nick of time when he is ready to descend upon the Mount of Olives and the next thing which shall immediately fall out upon the City and the people viz. the wicked Gentiles Gogg and his company shall be the great Earth-quake which shall slay seven thousand men and the next the Kingdomes of this World shall become the Kindomes of our Lord and his Christ and he shall raign