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A49426 Part of Lucian made English from the originall, in the yeare 1638 by Jasper Mayne ..., to which are adjoyned those other dialogues of Lucian as they were formerly translated by Mr. Francis Hicks. Lucian, of Samosata.; Mayne, Jasper, 1604-1672.; Hickes, Francis, 1566-1631. 1663 (1663) Wing L3434; ESTC R32905 264,332 418

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Gold in his account differ at all from fire But pleaders and what is yet more unworthy they who professe wisedome are so wretchedly affected with gayne that some of the most famed Philosophers for I forbear to speake of Oratours sell justice for reward others take pay for teaching their Scholers Sophistry Another is not ashamed to receive a pension from the King for his attendance Another though of decrepit age travells and hires himself out like an Indian or Scythian Captive nor hold they gain to be a word of reproach Nor are these their only faults you may perceive them lyable to the most unruly passions too as discontents rages envyings and lusts of all sorts Affections unknown to a parasite Whose patience suffers him not to be angry nor hath he an enemy to be angry with If at any time he be provokt his Choller is not troublesome or mischievous but rather stirres mirth and delights the company Of all men he is least troubled with sadnesse For 't is the benefit and priviledge of his profession to grieve at nothing Besides he hath neither wealth nor house nor servant nor wife nor children whose losse may afflict him Then he neither covets reputation nor riches nor beauty Tychiades But methinks Simo want of maintenance should grieve him Parasite You are deceived Tychiades if you take him for a true parasite who at any time wants maintenance As he is not valiant who wants courage nor he wise who lacks wisedom so 't is with a Parasite Of whom I novv speak as he is a parasite in deed not in title and name If then a valiant man be not valiant if he have not valour nor a vvise man vvise if he have not vvisedom so a parasite is not a parasite unlesse he have the Art of a Parasite He then that cannot suck maintenance from any other man falls not under my discourse of a parasite Tychiades Will you never allow him then to vvant maintenance Parasite No. Which makes him not grieve for that or any thing else Whereas all Philosophers and great Oratours are surrounded vvith feares So that you may see most of them vvalk vvith staves vvhich they vvould not do if they feared not other men weapond Then they firmly bolt their doores to prevent any night attempt Whilest the parasite slightly shuts the doore of his cottage meerly to keep out the wind A night attempt no more frights him then if there were no such matter If he be to passe though a desert he travells without a sword so secure and fearlesse is he But I have often seen Philosophers upon no appearance of danger make ready their bow nor dare they go to a bathe or invitation without a staffe Then no man can charge a parasite with adultery force rapine or any other crime For then he were not a parasite but would much wrong himself so that if he should be caught in adultery he should with the offence purchase the name too For as a malefactor leaves of to be a good man and becomes a wicked so an offending parasite leaves off to be what he was and assumes the compellation of his offence But we not only see many such offences committed by the Philosophers of our times but have large monuments of their crimes recorded in their writings Socrates Aeschines Hyperides Demosthenes and most Oratours and Philosophers have had their Apologyes But never Parasite needed a defence because no man can give an instance of an invective writ against him Tychiades I confesse a Parasites life is much better then an Oratours or Philosophers but his death is worse Parasite 'T is much happier For wee know that all or most Philosophers have had unfortunate ends Some found guilty and sentenced for heynous offences by poyson others have wholy perisht by fire others by the strangury others have dyed banisht But none can tell of a Parasite who dyed so or who had not the happinesse to dye eating and drinking Or if any have felt a violent death 't was a flight not an execution Tychiades You have sufficiently compared a Parasite with Philosophers It now remaines that you show of what use he is to his nourisher and patron For methinks rich men maintain you out of benevolence and charity not without your infamies who are so maintained Parasite I thought you not so simple Tychiades as not to know that a rich man though he possesses Gyges wealth dining alone is poor and appearing in publique without his parasite is a beggar And as a Souldier without his armes or apparell without its scarlet or a horse without his trappings is pricelesse so a rich man without his parasite is held base and contemptible so that the parasite is a credit to the rich man but not the rich man to the parasite Nor is it what ever you thinke any disgrace for the worse to be parasite to the better It behooves then every rich man to keep his parasite both for the honour and the safety which he receives from his attendance For no man will easily offer to quarrell with him so guarded Next no man that keeps a parasite can well be poysond For who will make such an attempt upon him who hath such a taster A rich man then not only receives fame but preservation from his parasite who out of affection to his patron undergoes all his dangers and chooseth not only to eat but to dye with him Tychiades Trust mee Simo you have not been defective nor came you as you pretended unprepared to the deciphering of your Art of which you seem to be so practised a master For the future therefore if you can deliver the name from disgrace I will learn to be a parasite Parasite To this my answer shall be since you thinke I have otherwise said enough a question to which answer as well as you can What did the Ancients call 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Tychiades Food Parasite And doth not 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 signifie to be fed Tychiades Yes Parasite 'T is plain then that to be a parasite which is derived from 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 anothers and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 meate is nothing but to be one fed by another Tychiades Therein Simo lyes the infamy and scandall Parasite Pray answer me once more which of the two would you choose To be the saylor or passenger Tychiades The passenger Parasite The Racer or the Better Tychiades The Better Parasite The Horse or the Rider Tychiades The Rider Parasite The Arrow or the Archer Tychiades The Archer Parasite And would you not rather choose to be fed then to be the feeder Tychiades I confesse my self convinced Henceforth like school-boyes I vvill come to you mornings and afternoons to learne your Art Which being your first scholer I hope you vvill teach me vvithout reservation or envy For they say mothers love their first child best The Lover of Lyes or the incredulous The Speakers Tychiades and Philocles Tychiades CAn you tell me the reason
between Cnemon and Damnippus Cnemon VVHy this is the old Proverb right the Fawn beats the Lion Damnip At what do you chafe Cnemon Cnemon At what do I chafe do you aske I have left an heire against my will and am cousen'd wretch that I am and have undone my children Damnip How I pray Cnemon A little before my death I applyed my selfe much to the rich childlesse Hermolaus who took my Addresses not distastfully and to show my selfe a wise fellow I made my will and publisht it and left all my estate to him expecting that out of imitation he should do the like to me Damnip And what was your successe Cnemon What he wrote in his will I know not but I died suddenly by the fall of a house since which time Hermolaus possesses my estate like a Pike which carries away the hook with the bair Damnip Nay you the Angler and all wherefore you made a ginne for your selfe Cnemon It seemes so and therefore I now mourne A Dialogue between Charon Mercury a company of dead men Menippus Charmoleus Lampichus Damasias a Philosoper and a Rhetorician Charon HEare how the case stands with you My Boat as you see is small and rotten and leakes in many places And therefore if it be not equally trimmed 't will overturne And yet so many of you together are come hither every one with a great burden which if you bring in with you you will repent it especially those who cannot swimme The Dead How shall we do then for safe waftage Charon I le tell you you must enter naked and leave your carriages upon the shoare And t is well if the Boat receive you all so Be it your charge Mercurie to admit none but such as are slender and cast away their Luggage stand therefore at the ladder and receive them with choice and compell them to enter stript Mercury I will obey your Directions Who is the first Menippus I am Menippus Looke Mercury I have cast my wallet and staffe into the lake as for gown 't was well I brought none Mercury Enter Menippus thou best of men and take the first and highest place in the Boat from whence thou may'st see the rest But what spruce youth is this Charmoleus I am Charmoleus the lovely Megarian who took two talents for a kisse Mercury Cast off your beauty and lippes with their kisses your long haire too red cheeks and whole skinne 'T is well you are now fit enter But what grimme Sir is that arrayed in Purple and a Crown on his head Lampichus I am Lampichus Tyrant of Gela. Mercury Why thus loaden Lampichus Lampichus Should a Prince come naked Mercury Mercury A prince should not but a dead man should Therefore put off your ornaments Lampichus There lie my riches Mercury But you must cast off your pride and statelinesse too Lampichus For if these enter with you they will overcharge the Boat Lampichus Let me keep but my crown and robe Mercury By no means you must forsake them Lampichus There then what more you see I have cast away all Mercury You must cast off your cruelty too and folly and insolence and fury and the like Lampichus See I am naked Mercury Now enter What grosse fleshy fellow are you Damasias I am Damasias the wrastler Mercury So methought I have seen you often at wrastling Damasias True Mercury receive me therefore naked Mercury You are not naked my friend who are clothed with all this flesh put it off therefore for if you put but one foot into the boat you sink it Cast away your Crowns and praises too Damas. See I am naked and slender like other Ghosts Mercury You are now of a fit lightnesse therefore enter Do you Crato throw away your wealth as also your effeminatenesse and pleasures and bring not vvith you your Epitaphes and titles of your Ancestors leave behind you too your pedigree and reputation and panegyricks bestowed upon you by the Citty to which you have been a benefactour the inscriptions of your statues also And speak not of the great tombe they have raised for you for these things gather vveight from their remembrance Crato Well I will put them off because I cannot helpe it Mercury Blesse me vvhat armed vvhy do you carry that Trophie Crato Because I conquer'd and atchiev'd it Mercury and vvas therefore honoured by the Citty Mercury Leave your armes to the Earth there 's only peace in Hell and no need of Trophies there But vvhat venerable shade is that of a grave presence vvho knits his browes out of contemplation and weares such a long beard Menippus A Philosopher Mercury or rather a jugler and cheater pray strippe him and you will see many things very ridiculous hid under his gown Mercury Lay aside your gown Sir and all things else O Iupiter what arrogance ignorance contention vain-glory endlesse questions thornie disputes intricate notions fruitlesse labours whimseyes trifles and curious follies he carried about him Besides gold and pleasures and impudence and choller and wantonnesse and luxurie These things scape not my knowledg Sir though you should strive to conceal them Cast off your lying also and your pride and your conceit that you are better then others For if you enter thus burdened a pinnace will scarce carry you Philosoph I cast then all off since 't is your pleasure Menippus Let him put off his beard too Mercury which you see is both long and slovenly and weighs at least five pound Philosopher But who shall cut it Mercury Menippus shall shave you with the axe that mends the boat laying your beard upon the sides of the ladder Menippus Not so Mercury 't will be more ridiculous if you lend me a saw Mercury An Axe will serve Menippus So you now look more like a man having cast off your stink shall I clip your eye-browes too Mercury Yes for these he used to raise to the toppe of his forehead when he strained himselfe What dost thou cry varlet and art afraid of death enter then Menippus He still hath one thing strong about him Mercury What Menippus Menippus Flattery Mercury which when he lived stood him in much stead Philosoph Do you then Menippus cast off your liberty and boldnesse of speech your jollity also and jeering Mercury By no means keep them still for they are light and of easy portage and will advance our passage Do you Pleader cast away your tedious speeches and your Retortions your similitudes also and periods and barbarismes and other burdens of language Rhetor. 'T is done Mercury 'T is well Now set from the shore and le ts pull up the ladder weigh anchor and spread the sayle Do you Ferry-man guide the sterne and let 's be merry Why howle you ye vain people especially you Philosopher because you lost your beard Philosoph No. But because I thought the soule had bin immortall Menippus He lies he weeps for something else Mercury For what Menippus Marry because he can be no more
three heads of great fiercenesse who on Arrivers casts a gentle and peacefull eye but barkes at those who endeavour to escape and frights them back into their Dungeon Those that are wafted over the Lake are received into a spacious meddow set with Daffodills through which glides a stream enemy to remembrance and for that reason called Lethe For these are the relations of them who have anciently return'd from thence Alcestis and Protesilaus two Thessalonians Theseus also the Sonne of Aegeus and Homers Vlysses very reverend and credible witnesses who surely drunk not of the forgetfull Spring for then they had not remembred such descriptions Pluto then and Proserpina as they report raigne there and have the whole Dominion of the place Though they have many Attendants and Ministers of state as Furies Punishments Horrours and Mercury who is not constantly resident under-rulers also and Peeres two Judges Minos and Rhadamanthus both of Creet and Sonnes of Iupiter Who when a Competent number of good men just who have lived a life of vertue are arrived send them like a Colony into the Elysian fields there to live a life of felicitie But wicked men they deliver to the Furies to be conveyed to the region of Malefactours there to be punish't according to their offences In which place what miseries do they not suffer tortur'd and burnt and gnawne by Vultures and tost upon wheeles and forced to roll relapsing stones against steep hills Tantalus stands in a Lake yet is wretchedly in danger to dye with thirst Others of a middle kind of life of which there are store wander in a meddow without bodies being meere shades which touch't vanish like smoake These are nourisht by our sacrifices and oblations powred on their graves So that he who hath no friend or Allye left on earth wanders among them famisht and starved These dreames have made such strong impressions in some that when one of their friends dyes first they put a fare in his mouth which hee is to give the Ferry-man for his wafrage And do not first consider whether the money be currant and will passe below or whether with Ghosts an Attick or Macedonian or Aegina coyne beare most value or whether it were not much better to have no fare at all to give For so being refused by the Ferry-man he may be sent back and returne to life againe After this they wash him as if the Infernall marrish were not B●th enough for those that come thither and embalme his body with rich oyntments for the expulsion of ill smells then crowning him with Orient flowers they lay him out gloriously apparrelled lest perhaps he should take cold by the way or be seene naked of Cerberus Then follow the howlings of women teares of acquaintance percussion of brests tearing of haire cheekes bloudyed garments rent and heads sprinkled with dust So that the living are more to be pittied then the dead For they many times roll themselves on the floore and dash their heads against the ground whilst the other adorn'd and trimm'd and gloriously crown'd lyes aloft and sublimed like one drest for a triumph Lastly his mother and father surrounded with their kindred goe before him to whom turning sometimes you must imagine him to be some gallant young man for the greater solemnity of the play they utter abortive senslesse sounds to which the dead party would make answer were he able to speake For his father drawing out every word vvith interruptions and sighes thus bespeakes him My deare sonne thou art lost dead and before thy time snatcht from mee leaving mee alone solitary vvretch Thou vvast neither married nor hadst children not practised to the Camp or plough or arrived to thy old age never more my child shalt thou feast be amorous or drunke againe vvith thy companions Such and the like complaints he povvres forth out of an opinion that his sonne after death needs and desires such things but is denyed the fruition But vvhy mention I such trifles Hovv many are there vvho at such funeralls doe sacrifice his horses concubines and butlers and burne and bury his robes and cloathes of ornament vvith the deceased party as if hee vvere to use or enjoy them belovv Novv the old man vvho thus laments speakes not this and much more nor is thus tragicall vvith reflection on his son For hee knovves he cannot heare him though hee should cry as loud as Stentor or on himselfe for then his bare invvard thought and contemplation vvere sufficient vvithout a voyce For no man needs to be clamorous to himselfe It remaines then that he acts this distemper for the spectators sakes since he neither knovves vvhat hath befalne his sonne nor vvhere he is nor vvell examined the course and state of his life For then he could not reckon his departure hence among calamities Well therefore might his son having obtained leave of Aeacus and hell to raise his head a while out from his dungeon for the quieting of his distracted father say thus to him Forlorne man what meane thy clamours Why dost thou trouble mee cease to teare thy haire and to rent thy face Why art thou so injurious to call mee miserable and unfortunate who am much better and happier then thou Is it thinkest thou any calamity to mee that I am not arrived at thy decrepit age or have not a bald head wrinkled face crumpt backe and slack knees or am not wither'd and decay'd by so many Triacades and Olympiades of time or betray not my follies before so many witnesses Fond man What canst thou call desirable in life which wee shall not afterwards enjoy perchance thou wilt say delicious potations feasts rich garments and the pleasures of Venus whose denials thou fearest are my misfortunes Dost thou not understand how much better 't is not to thirst then to drinke or not to be hungry then to eate or not to be cold then richly cloathed Since then I perceive thee ignorant I will truly teach thee how to grieve Begin thy Lamentations againe and say My wretched child never more shalt thou thirst never more shalt thou hunger never more shalt thou freeze Thou art lost unhappy boy and hast escaped diseases needest not hereafter feare feavers enemies or Tyrants Love shall no more torment nor venery tempt thee nor shalt thou twice or thrice a day consume thy selfe O calamity Thou shalt not be scorn'd when thou art old nor thy sight be thought troublesome to young men Shouldest thou O my father say thus would not these complaints seeme much truer and more ridiculous then the other Be not therefore troubled at the consideration of our night and great darknesse nor imagine mee stifled when I am shut up in my tombe But thinke rather that my eyes being perisht and burnt if yet you have burnt mee need neither darknesse nor light to see by But suppose your owne private complaints reasonable how am I better'd by your howlings or by so many brests as it were