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A89189 A sober ansvvere to an angry pamphlet, or, Animadversions, by way of reply, to Robert Barclays late book (entituled, Truth cleared of calumnies) in answere to A dialogue between a Quaker and a stable Christian by VVilliam Mitchell. Mitchell, William, 17th cent. 1671 (1671) Wing M2294; ESTC R43708 69,116 149

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own persons verse 14. death reigned from Adam to Moses even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adams transgression that is over Infants who sinned not actually as Adam did in their own persons yet they were subject to death as well as others 2. Object It is said Ezek. 18.20 the soul that sinneth it shal die the son shal not bear the iniquity of the father Answer What if the son be a partaker of the fathers iniquity will not GOD then visit the iniquity of the fathers upon the children Exod. 20.5 Now though Infants partake not of Adams sin by imitation yet they partake of his sin in so far as Adam was the root of Mankind and sinned as a publick person representing them the root dying all the branches dyed in it and with it 1. Cor. 15.22 He saith page 64. That Infants are subject to diseases and death this proves them not to be sinners Ans The Scripture gives ground to believe that if man had not sinned he should not have dyed because death is onely threatned in case of mans sinning Gen. 2.17 and upon his sinning GOD told him not till then that he should returne to the dust Gen. 3.19 It is true the inanimat creatures suffer for the sin of man But it followeth not that therefore all of Mankind who suffer death are not sinners especialy seeing the Apostle plainly affirmes that death entered by sin and death hath passed upon all for that all have sinned so that he concludes all persons who are lyable to death to be under the guilt of sin and consequently sinners Christ indeed though innocent was a man of sorrowes because our sins were laid upon him He pleadeth for the salvation of all Infants who die in their infancy alledging that Scripture Mark. 10.14 suffer little children to come unto me for of such is the Kingdom of GOD. Answer The Kingdom of GOD is taken either for the Kingdom of Grace or for the Kingdom of Glory and such Infants as are subjects of his Kingdom of Grace upon whom the Lord exerciseth a gracious government in regenerating and sanctifying them all such Infants shal be admitted to the Kingdom of Glory But how will the Quaker prove that all Infants who die in their infancy have such s gracious operation in and upon them Now the Scripture is plaine that there is that in Infants which makes them lyable to destruction Ephes 2.3 by nature we are children of wrath that is from the very first receiving of our natures and beings we receive withal a lyableness to the wrath of GOD. And that some Infants do perish may be gathered from that which befell Sodom and Gomorrha none of the inhabitants were spared no not the Infants and Sucklings and they were not onely consumed with fire and brimston but it is expresly said that they suffer the vengeance of eternal fire Jude verse 7. He saith page 65. That Christ is a Saviour not onely to save from sin but also from the consequences of sin not onely from the fruits and branches of it but from the seed Answer Christ indeed is a perfect Saviour and will compleatly save his people from every sin and evil but whom he thus saveth it supposeth that they had sin in them to be saved from but if the Quaker speak truth Infants have not sin in them to be saved from for he saith they are not guilty of Adams sin and the seed doth not make them guilty of sin before GOD because they do not close with it now actual sin they have not so that Christ is not a Saviour to save them from their sin and consequently they are shut out from being in the number of Christs people I cannot but take notice of the Gentle-mans impudence or else ignorance in bringing that Scripture Matth. 1.21 as making so much against us as if we were for a salvation in our sins whenas nothing can more unjustly be charged upon us We assert that whom the Lord saveth he workes in them a detestation of sin and a purpose to come off from all their sins and delivers them in this life from sin in part compare Rom. 6.6 with Rom. 7.20.24 and at death he gives them a total riddance of sin Heb. 4.10 To say that Infāts are saved frō sin because they are not suffered to fall into it it might be as well said that Christ died to save the Elect holy Angels frō sin because they are not suffered to fall into sin This looks like the old evasion of the Pelagians viz. that Infants need Christ not to save them from sin but to bring them to the Kingdom of Heaven against whom Augustin urged that they divided these two names of our Saviour Jesus and Christ making him a Christ where he was not a Jesus HEAD XV. Concerning the perseverance of the Saints which Quakers are against He addeth That they hold no such matter as falling away from Regeneration and that these that fell away never attained to regeneration Ans Here he seeks to hide himself but may easily be discovered For is not this the doctrine of Quakers that Saints may fall totally and finally away from true and saving grace G. Keith in his answer to my Queries sticks not to say that this is clear both from experience and abundant testimonies of Scripture Now are not Saints regenerat What is Regeneration but to be brought into such a state wherein we are made like GOD in righteousness and holiness And this being the state of Saints then it followeth that if Saints may fall away totally and finally which Quakers grant then there may be a total and final falling away from Regeneration It is in vaine to assert a total and final falling away from saving grace because it is said some who believed afterwards fell away and some make shipwrack of the faith and some who tasted the good word of GOD and the powers of the world to come fell away Seeing it is known that we use to distinguish between seeming counterfeit grace and sound saving grace between the common gifts of the Spirit and the saving graces of the Spirit Now it is incumbent for the Gentle-man to prove that they who believed made shipwrack of their faith or others who finally fell away had the sound and saving graces of the spirit which is the thing that we deny He saith That Philipp 1.6 is to be understood no otherwise then as the condition is made good on their part as Heb. 3.14 we are made partakers of Christ if we hold fast unto the end Answer The condition which the Lord requires on his peoples part he promiseth to enable them to make good Ierem. 32.29 I will give them one heart that they may fear me for ever Here is a promise that GODS People shal persevere in cleaving to him and the promise of GOD cannot faile it is more sure then Heaven and Earth Mark 13.31 Page 66. in answering 1. Pet. 1.5 He saith