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B07995 The Catholikes supplication vnto the Kings Maiestie, for toleration of Catholike religion in England: with short notes or animaduersions in the margine. : Whereunto is annexed parallel-wise, a supplicatorie counterpoyse of the Protestants, vnto the same most excellent Maiestie. : Together with the reasons of both sides, for and against toleration of diuers religions.. Powel, Gabriel, 1576-1611. 1603 (1603) STC 20141.5; ESTC S94766 17,197 37

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daungerous and damnable k Vide Orat. ad Reg. Galliae de Restit Iesuit Eman. Sa. in aphorism Confessariorum Bellarm lib. de Exempt Clericorum propositions 1. That the Pope hath power to excommunicate Kings 2. That he hath power to absolue subiects from their faith and alleageance 3. That the Pope may depose Princes from their Scepter and Crowne and giue the same vnto another 4. That any priuate man may be made executioner to murther or to poyson the excommunicated King 5. That faith must not be kept with Heretikes 6. That whosoeuer is not within the communion of the Romish Church is an Heretike and consequently that your highnes is such a one 7. That no Cleargie-man can commit treason against any temporall King because he is not the Kings subiect but the Popes and such like care not in conscience at the Popes becke nay thinke it high merit if he so commaund not onely to transgresse your lawes but also to lay violent hands and to murder your sacred person which God forbid But Protestants hauing learned to * Matth. 22.21 giue vnto Caesar the things of Caesar and to God the things of God and to obey the * Rom. 13.1 higher powers which are the ordinance of God cannot but in soule be grieuously tortured for the least preuarication of the Magistrates iust necessarie or conuenient lawes 13 Wherefore most gracious Soueraigne wee your euer-faithfull subiects in all dutifull submission vow and protest before the Maiestie of God and all his holy Angels as loyall obedience and as immaculate allegeance vnto your Grace as euer did faithfull subiects in England or Scotland vnto your Highnes progenitors and predecessors and intend as sincerely with our goods and liues to serue you as euer did the loyallest Israelites King Dauid or the trustie legions the Romane Emperours 14 And thus not doubting of your Maiesties constant profession of true Religion and godly care for the rooting out of all Idolatrie we rest your deuoted suppliants to him whose hands doe mannage the hearts of Kings and with reciprocate Honor will honor them that honor him Your sacred Maiesties most faithfull Seruants The Protestants of England A BRIEFE CONSIDERATION OF THE CATHOLIKES REASONS FOR TOLERATION OF THEIR Religion in England intimated in their Supplication to his Highnes I. REASON The Catholikes are readie to performe any allegeance or dutie that the King can desire or expect at their hands Out of the 3. Section of the Supplication Ergo It may please his Maiestie to graunt them a toleration of their Religion ANSWERE I. To the Antecedent 1 The Antecedent must be vnderstoode conditionally vid. If the King will graunt a toleration then the Papists say they will be dutifull else they will not but will runne on the old bias againe for practise and treacherie against his Royall Person and the State as they were wont in Queene Elizabeths time But if they will not bee dutifull Subiects for conscience sake as they are bound to be Our dread Soueraigne in my opinion shall haue small good of their mercenarie seruice 2 Popish Religion in the Articles thereof is treason against the lawfull authoritie and state of our King See the Counterpoyse Sect. 12. Therefore whatsoeuer the Papists either protest or pretend it skilles not they can be no loyall Subiects so long as the Pope may discharge them from allegeance to their Prince See note 35. 3 By vertue of Popish Religion the Ecclesiasticall state challengeth immunitie and exemption from his Highnes power iudiciall courts and in case of ordinarie contributions they withdraw their allegeance from the King vnto the obedience of a forraine Potentate denying him an absolute power in his owne Dominions II. To the Consequence 1 Howsoeuer his Maiestie in policie might wish all Papists within his Dominions to be dutifull and obedient Subiects yet cannot his Highnes allow and accept of the course leading thereunto vnlesse he finde it warranted by the law of God such as toleration of Popish Idolatrie can neuer be 2 The practises of the Papists being vncertaine it fits not the deepe reach of a Prince to remedie vncertaine and lesser accidents by opening free passage to more assured and greater perils II. REASON Out of the third and fourth section The Catholikes haue been very forward in maintaining and defending the Kings iust and lawfull title to the Scepter of Albion Ergo His Maiestie might doe well to gratifie them with a toleration ANSWERE I. To the Antecedent 1 If the Papists were so firme as now they say for the Kings lawfull title they would not haue been so forward for the Infantaes pretended title as they haue 2 Graunt they were so forward for his Maiesties title yet it is very credible that they were but mercenarie Iudases for Quid vultis mihi dare ego tradam c. They would doe somewhat vpon hope of toleration els iust nothing for conscience and equitie 3 This which they pretend should seeme to be in Queene Elizabeths daies which if it were so on their part was great disloyaltie to their Prince And it may well be thought that traiterous hearts to Queene Elizabeth can be none of the faithfullest Subiects to King Iames. II. To the Consequence 1 Suppose it lawfull in Queene Elizabeths daies for Catholikes to flie from their countrie and to be factiously forward for the Kings lawfull title they did but their dutie Yet is it not lawfull for his Maiestie to permit the free exercise of Idolatrie which were plaine impietie 2 If this also were lawfull in it selfe yet were it no policie to graunt the Papists a toleration considering their intention and aime for alteration their number dependencie confederacie forraine and domestike and other correspondent abilities strong and to be suspected III. REASON Puritanes and Atheists being of contrary Religion to the Protestants are tolerated in England Out of the 6. Section Ergo His Maiestie may with like reason tolerate the free exercise of the Catholike Religion ANSWERE I. To the Antecedent 1 Such as doe scandalouslie or schismaticallie withdraw themselues from our publike congregations and refuse to serue the Lord together with vs are not permitted but punished by our lawes 2 Puritanes as they terme them are not contrarie to the Protestants in Religion See before note 11. 3 As for Atheisme it is not publikely professed in England and therefore there can be no permission thereof See note 15. II. To the Consequence 1 Vpon supposed toleration of the factious and schismaticall Puritane there is no reason for toleration of the Papist for diuers causes videl I. The Puritane holdes no opinion directly opposit either to the Maiestie of God or his Highnes Soueraigntie But the Papist doth II. If the Puritaine did offend any of these wayes yet should not the Papist be admitted for so the number of bad subiects should be encreased 2 The Papist is more daungerous then the Puritaine or Atheist by reason of his