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A17505 A replie vnto a certaine libell, latelie set foorth by Fa: Parsons, in the name of vnited priests, intituled, A manifestation of the great folly and bad spirit, of certaine in England, calling themselues seculer priestes VVith an addition of a table of such vncharitable words and phrases, as by him are vttered in the said treatise, aswell against our parsons, as our bookes, actions, and proceedings. Clark, William, d. 1603.; Barneby, Francis. aut; Clarionet, William, attributed name. 1603 (1603) STC 4321; ESTC S107159 173,407 232

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