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A37777 The declaration or remonstrance of the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled with divers depositions and letters thereunto annexed.; Remonstrance of the state of the kingdome, agreed on by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, May 19, 1642 England and Wales. Parliament.; Astley, Jacob Astley, Baron, 1579-1652.; Ballard, Thomas, Lieutenant Colonel to the Lord Grandison.; Chudleigh, James, d. 1643.; Conyers, John, Sir.; Goring, George Goring, Baron, 1608-1657.; Hunks, Fulk, Sir.; Lanyon, John.; Legge,William, 1609?-1670.; O'Connolly, Owen.; Percy, Henry, Baron Percy of Alnwick, d. 1659.; Vavasour, William, Sir, d. 1659. 1642 (1642) Wing E1517; ESTC R3809 41,214 58

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killed this night and that all the Posts that could bee could not prevent it And further saith That he moved the said Hugh to forbeare the executing of that businesse and to discover it to the State for the saving of his owne estate who said that he could not help it But said that they did owe their due allegeance to the King and would pay him all his Rights but that they did this for the tyrannicall Government was over them and to imitate Scotland who got a priviledge by that course And he further saith That when he was with the said Hugh in his lodging the second time the said Hugh swore that he should not goe out of his lodging that night but told him that he should goe with him the next morning to the Castle and said if this matter were discovered some body should die for it Whereupon this Examinant feigned some necessity for his easement went downe out of the Chamber and left his sword in pawne and the said Hugh sent his man downe with him And when this Examinant came downe into the yard finding an opportunity he this Examinant leaped over a wall and two pales and so came to the Lord Justice Parsons October 22. 1641. Owen Oconnelly William Parsons Tho Rotherham Rob Meridith The examination of Mark Pagett Parson of Morlestowne neare Kingsale in Ireland and Deane of Rosse there had and taken at Plimmouth in the County of Devon before Thomas Ceely Merchant Maior of the Burrough of Plimmouth aforesaid William Birch and Ioh Bound Merchants three of his Majesties Justices of the Peace within the said Burrough the fourth day of March 1641. The said Examinant saith that he came from Kingsale this day was seven-night and saith that the Rebellion in Ireland is generall except the Port Townes and Fortifications and saith that hee conceiveth that the Forces of the Rebels in Munster is betweene twenty or thirty thousand which lie neare Corke and Bandam Bridge in two bodies whereof the chiefe of one is Baron Loughland the Lord Mungarret the Lord Dunboi●e and divers other Lords and the chiefe of the other are Macarte Reath Teage Adowne Teage Adun van Durmet Glacke and Macke Phenning and divers others And this Examinant hath for certaine heard that the Earle of Clanrikard is likewise in Armes in Connough against the English Protestants and further saith that he knoweth that the Rebels have very good intelligence out of England of all passages here and for the most part speedier then the English have there and further saith that they threaten that assoone as they have rooted out the British and English there to invade England and assist the Papists in England And further saith that they have the Popes Lega●e amongst them as they report who sits constantly in counsell with Sir Phil●me Oneale who writes himselfe now Prince Oneale from his Pallace Charlemount the Lord Meggennys and divers others who directed and advised the rest of the Rebels And farther saith That the Irish Rebels doe report that they have the Kings Warrant and Great Seale for what they doe and say they are his Majesties true Subjects and that the English Protestants are Rebels and not they And further saith that the Rebels doe generally report that there are three factions in England whereof one is the Kings which consists for the most part of Courtiers and Bishops with some few Lords and Gentry Another the Puritans which is supported by the House of Commons some Lords and the Corporations and Cities in England And the third is the Queenes which they say is the greatest and consists of the Catholiques some Lords all the Priests and Jesuites besides the expectation they have of forraine forces And farther saith that they report that the Queenes faction will set such a division betweene the two others that it will root out both of them at last And farther saith that the said Irish doe bragge that the Queenes faction hath the command of most of the Fortes and Forces of England And this Examinant farther saith that he kneweth this to be usually reported amongst them for that he hath lived in Ireland these two and thirty yeares and beene incumbent of the said Church eighteene yeares and hath heard divers of the Irish Papists of the better sort to affirme so much which doth much hearten the Rebels and dishearten the English And farther saith that the Rebels have taken the Iron-workes at Glannorreth and great quantities of Iron and there and else-where cast Ordinance make Muskets heads for Pikes Skeanes and other weapons and farther saith that the greatest part of the nine thousand Irish Souldiers which the Earle of Strafford had at Nockvargas in Ireland and there exercised and trayned a long time are the most expert Commanders Leaders and Officers amongst the Rebels Thomas Ceely Maior Madame I Shall not adventure to write unto your Majestie with freedome but by expresses or till such time as I have a cipher which I beseech your Majestie to vouchsafe me At this time therefore I shall onely let your Majestie know where the humblest and most faithfull servant you have in the world is Here at Middleborough where I shall remaine in the privatest way I can till I receive instructions how to serve the King and your Majesty in these parts If the King betake himselfe to a safe place where he may avow and protect his servants from rage I meane and violence for from Justice I will never implore it I shall then live in impatience and in misery till I waite upon you But if after all he hath done of late he shall betake himselfe to the easiest and complyantest wayes of accommodation I am confident that then I shall serve him more by my absence then by all my industry and it will be a comfort to me in all calamities if I cannot serve you by my actions that I may doe it in some kinde by my sufferings for your sake having I protest to God no measure of happinesse or misfortune in this world but what I derive from your Majesties value of my affection and fidelity Middleborough the 21. of Ianuary 1641. FINIS His Majestie not charged with intention of any force Mr. Iermins esescape by his Majesties warrant Accusation of the Lo. Kimbolton c. Tumultuous numbers To the first Int.
jealousies And we gave a reason for it that those fears did not arise out of any guilt of our own Actions but out of the evill designes and attempts of others and we leave it to the world to judge whether we herein have deserved so heavie a Tax and exclamation that it was a strange world when Princes proffered favours are counted reproaches such are the words of His Majesties Answer who do esteeme that offer as an Act of Princely grace and bountie which since this Parliament began we have humbly desired we might obtain and do still hold it very necessarie and advantagious for the generalitie of the Subject upon whom these Taxes and Subsidies lie heaviest but we see upon every occasion how unhappie we are in His Majesties misapprehensions of our words and actions We are fully of the Kings mind as it is here declared that he may rest so secure of the affections of His Subjects that he should not stand in need of forraigne force to preserve him from oppression and are confident that he shall never want an abundant evidence of the good wishes and assistance of His whole Kingdom especially if he shall be pleased to hold to that gracious resolution of building upon that sure foundation the Law of the Land but why His Majestie should take it ill that we having received informations so deeply concerning the safetie of the Kingdom and should think them fit to be considered of we cannot conceive for although the name of the person was unknown yet that which was more substantiall to the probabilitie of the Report was known that is That he was servant to the Lord Digby who in his presumptuous Letter to the Queenes Majesty and other Letters to Sir Lewis Dives had intimated some wicked Proposition sutable to that Information but that this should require reparation wee hold it as farre from Justice as it is from truth that wee have mixt any malice with these rumours thereby to feed the feares and jealousies of the People It is affirmed his Majestie is driven but not by us yet from us perchance hereafter if there be opportunity of gaining more credit there will not be wanting who will suggest unto his Majestie that it is done by us And if his Majestie were driven from us wee hope it was not by his owne feares but by the feares of the Lord Digbie and his retinue of Cavaliers and that no feares of any Tumultuary violence but of their just punishment for their manifold insolence and intended violence against the Parliament And this is expressed by the Lord Digby himselfe when he told those Cavaliers that the principall cause of his Majesties going out of Towne was to save them from being trampled in the durt but of his Majesties person there was no cause of feare in the greatest heate of the peoples indignation after the accusation and his Majesties violent comming to the House there was no shew of any evill intention against his Regall Person of which there can be no better evidence then this that he came the next day without a Guard into the Citie where he heard nothing but Prayers and Petitions no threatnings or irreverent speeches that might give him any just occasion of feare that wee have heard of or that his Majestie exprest for he stayed neere a weeke after at White Hall in a secure and peaceable condition whereby wee are induced to beleeve that there is no difficultie nor doubt at all but his Majesties residence neere London may be as safe as in any part of the Kingdome We are most assured of the faithfulnesse of the Citie and Suburbes And for our selves wee shall quicken the vigour of the Lawes the industry of the Magistrate the authoritie of Parliament for the suppressing of all tumultuary insolencies whatsoever and for the vindicating of his Honour from all insupportable and insolent scandalls if any such shall be found to be raysed upon him as are mentioned in this Answer and therefore wee thinke it altogether unnecessary and exceeding inconvenient to adjourne the Parliament to any other place Where the desire of a good understanding betwixt the King and the Parliament is on both parts so earnest as is here profest of his Majestie to be in him and wee have sufficiently testified to be in our selves it seemes strange wee should be so long asunder it can be nothing else but evill and malicious Councell misrepresenting our carriage to him and in disposing his favour to us and as it shall be farre from us to take any advantage of his Majesties supposed straits as to desire much lesse to compell him to that which his Honour or interest may render unpleasant and grievous to him so wee hope that his Majestie will not make his owne understanding or reason the rule of his Government but will suffer himselfe to be assisted with a wise and prudent Councell that may deale faithfully betwixt him and his people And that he will remember that his resolutions doe concerne Kingdomes and therefore ought not to be moulded by his owne much lesse by any other private person which is not alike proportionable to so great a trust and therefore we still desire and hope that his Majesty will not be guided by his owne understanding or to thinke those Courses straights and necessities to which he shall be advised by the Wisdome of both Houses of Parliament which are the Eyes in this Politique Body whereby his Majestie is by the Constitution of this Kingdome to discerne the differences of those things which concerne the publike peace and safetie thereof Wee have given his Majestie no cause to say that wee doe meanly value the discharge of His publique dutie whatsoever Acts of Grace or Justice have been done they proceeded from his Majestie by the advice and Councell of his Parliament yet wee have and shall alwayes answer them with constant gratitude obedience and affection and although many things have been done since this Parliament of another nature yet wee shall not cease to desire the continued protection of Allmightie God upon His Majestie And most humbly Petition him to cast from him all those evill and contrary Councells which have in many particulars formerly mentioned much detracted from the Honour of his Government the happinesse of his owne Estate and prosperitie of his people And having past so many dangers from abroad so many Conspiracies at home and brought on the publique worke so farre through the greatest difficulties that ever stood in opposition to a Parliament to such a degree of successe that nothing seemes to be left in our way able to hinder the full accomplishment of our desires and endeavours for the publique good unlesse God in his justice doe send such a grievous Curse upon us as to turne the strength of the Kingdom against it selfe and to effect that by their owne folly and credulitie which the Power and Subtiltie of their and our enemies could not attaine That is to divide the people
Examination of Sir Iacob Ashley taken before the Lords Committees this twenty ninth of October 1641 To the first interog. HEe saith that he hath known Serjeant Major Daniel Oneal very long and that he was long absent from the Army the last Sommer but knows not at what time he did returne nor knows not how long it was that he stayed in the Army before his going into the Low Countries but thinks it to be about three weeks To the second interog. He saith that Mr. Oneale told him after his comming downe last that things being not so well betwixt the King and Parliament hee thought a Petition from the Army might doe very much good and asked him if a draught of such a Petition were brought unto him whether he would set his hand unto it the particulars which he desired to have the Army received in were the want of Martiall Law want of pay and for words spoken in the House of Parliament against the Army as that the City was disaffected to the Kings Army and would rather pay the Scots then them To the third Inter He cannot answer To the fourth Inter He cannot answer To the fifth Inter He saith that hee received a Letter by the hands of Captaine Legg the tenour whereof as far as remembers was to this effect the Letter beeing written in two sides of paper and somewhat more first that divers things were pressed by parties to insafe into the Parliament things to the Kings disadvantage and that divers tumults and disorders were neere the parliament to the disservice of the King divers other particulars were contained in this Letter and in the close of this Letter it was recommended to this Examinat that he should get the hands of the Officers of the Army to such a declarat on to be sent to the Parliament and that this would bee acceptable to the King Hee further saith hee knowes not of whose hand writing it was nor who delivered it to Captaine Legg To the 7. Inter He saith that Mr. Oneal telling him of the dislikes which were between the King and the Parliament and of those things which were done to the disadvantage of the King they must fight with the Scots first and beate them before they could move Southward and that done they must spoyle the Countrey all along as they goe and when they doe come to London they would finde resistance by the Parliament and the Scots might rallie and follow them to which Oneale replyed what if these Scots could bee made neutrall This Examinat then said that the Scots would lay him by the heels if he should come to move such a thing for that they would never breake with the Parliament Presently replyed I wondred that Counsells should be so laid as had been spoken of of the marching of the Army to the South 8. Inter D. Hee further sayes that there was at the end of the Letter a direction to this effect Captaine or Willam Legg I command you that you shew this Letter to none but Iacob Ashley above this direction were set these two Letters C. R. Iacob Ashley The Examination of Sir Iohn Coniers taken upon Oath before the Lords Committees upon Friday the 29. of October 1641. TO the first interog. He saith that he knowes very well Master Daniel O-Neale who was Serjeant Major to his Regiment that the said O-Neale came up to London about November last and returned to the Army about Midsummer To the second That O-Neale after his return to the Army in Summer spake twice unto this Examinant of a Petition to be sent from the Army to the Parliament and told him that because they did not know if himselfe would consent unto it they would first petition him that he would approve of it but that as yet there were but few hands to that Petition which was to be preferred to him and therefore would not shew it him To the fourth That the said O-Neale used perswasions to this Examinant that hee would serve the King that if he did not he should bee left alone and would but ruine himselfe for that all the Troups under him were that way enclined That therefore he should adhere to the King and goe those wayes that the King would have him or words to that effect To the fifth That he saw a paper containing some directions for a Declaration to be subscribed unto by the Officers of the Army which paper was in Sir Jacob Ashleys hand he saith it was long containing two sides of a sheet of paper or thereabout the effect whereof was something concerning Martiall Law and better payment for the Army together with some other particulars that it was to be directed to the Parliment and that there were two Letters viz. C. R. at the end That hee doth not know who brought it unto Sir Iacob Ashley but that both of them were very much troubled at it He saith further that there was a direction at the end of the writing that no body should see it but Sir Iacob Ashley and the two letters C. R. were as hee remembers to that direction but whether before or after that direction hee cannot affirme To the seventh That he never heard Master O-Neale himselfe speak of his going to New-castle but that he heard it from others and as hee takes it from his wife the Lady Coniers and that whosoever it was that told him so told him withall that O-Neale himselfe said so Io. Coniers The second examination of Sir Iohn Coniers taken before the Lords Committees upon Saturday the 30. of October TO the fourth inter That Master O-Neal said to him that if he this Examinant had been well known to the King the King would have written to him and therefore he conceived this Examinant should doe well to write unto the King to which he replyed That he could not serve the King in that point and therefore he thought it would be of no use to trouble the King with his letters To the fifth That the paper mentioned in his former examination to have beene secne by him in Sir Iacobs Ashleys hand contained directions for a Petition to be presented to the King and Parliament In which was a clause to this effect That whereas all men ought to give God thanks for putting it into the Kings heart to condiscend to the desires of the Parliament not only to deliver up unto them many of his servants and others who were neere unto him to bee at their disposing but also to doe many things which none of his Ancestors would have consented unto as giving way to the Triannuall Parliament and granting many other things for the good of his Subjects yet not withstanding some turbulent spirits backt by rude and tumultuous mechanick persons seemed not to be satisfied but would have the totall subversion of the government of the State that therefore the Army which was so orderly governed not withstanding they had no martiall Law and ill payment and but few Officers being