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A08425 A reproufe, written by Alexander Nowell, of a booke entituled, A proufe of certayne articles in religion denied by M. Iuell, set furth by Thomas Dorman, Bachiler of Diuinitie: and imprinted at Antvverpe by Iohn Latius. Anno. 1564. Set foorth and allowed, according to the Queenes Maiesties iniunctions; Reproufe of a booke entituled, A proufe of certayne articles in religion denied by M. Juell Nowell, Alexander, 1507?-1602.; Dorman, Thomas, d. 1577? Proufe of certeyne articles in religion, denied by M. Juell. 1565 (1565) STC 18741; ESTC S113385 180,927 268

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witnesses sainct Cyprian and sainct Hierome brought in by hymself for the proofe of his parte and that whiche is more I will prooue it by the verie same places of sainct Cyprian and sainct Hierome whiche are by Doctour Hardyng and maister Dorman here alleged that is to saie by the thirde epistle of the firste booke of the epistles of sainct Cyprian and by the epistle of sainct Hierome to Euagrius And I doubte not but as of his three witnesses brought for hym one is no witnesse but suche as if one would saie aske my self whether I bee a theefe or no so the other twoo witnesses who bee moste woorthie credite shall proue my cause true I truste and maister Dorman a verie liar Wherein I doo thus proceade First I will putte the reader in remembraunce yet once againe of Saincte Cyprians owne woordes before touched written in the same epistle by maister Dorman alleged whiche are these Cum statutum sit omnibus nobis c. whiche maie bee thus translated whereas an order is taken or statute made emongeste vs all and it is also reasonable and right that euery mannes cause be there hearde where the faulte was committed and whereas a portion of the flocke is assigned to euery bishoppe by himself whiche euery one ought to rule and gouerne and must geue an accompte of his doynges to the Lorde these whiche bee vnder our gouernaunce ought not therefore to runne about to witte from one Bishoppe to an other neither to breake the agreable concorde of Bishoppes by their guilefull temeritie or rashnesse but ought there to make answere in their causes where thei maie haue accusers witnesses of their crimes excepte it seeme to a fewe desperate and caste awaie persones that the authoritie of the bishoppes that bee in Afrike is lesse then the authoritie of others whiche Bishoppes haue alreadie geuen iudgement of them their cause is alreadie heard sentence is alreadie pronounced against them neither dooeth it agree to the graue iudgemente of Bishoppes to be blamed of the leuitie of a mouable and inconstant mynde whereas our Lorde dooeth saie Let your speache bee yea yea no no. Thus farre saincte Cyprian M. Dormans owne witnesse euen in the same epistle by hymself alleged And this sentence of saincte Cyprian touchyng the determinyng of controuersies in the places where thei dooe rise and that no appellations shal bee made to any bishop of an other Prouince yea and that namely not to the Bishop of Rome nor that he shall sende any Legates Laterall to heare or determine foraine matters dooeth the whole Carthaginense councell approue and allowe wherein was saincte Augustine Drosius and Prosper with 217. moe learned and godlie Bishoppes assembled as I haue before noted The same sainct Cyprian euer agreyng with hym self in this veritie of the equalitie of al bishops which is the ouerthrowe of the supremacie of one dooeth applie many suche places of the scriptures as are customarelie but moste falsely alleged now a daies by this authour and other aduersaries for the proufe of the popes supremacie ouer all Bishoppes to the declaration of the equall authoritie of euery Bishoppe in his own diocesse as the place of Deuteronomium concernyng the obedience due to the high Prieste out of Numerie of the disobedience of Chore Dathan and Abyron against Aaron out of the Actes of the Apostles touching Saincte Paules woordes I wiste not that he was the high Bishoppe for it is written thou shalt not speake euill to the prince of thy people All these places I saie doeth saincte Cyprian allege for the authoritie of Rogatian an Africane Bishop and againste the disobedience of the saied Rogatians oeacon against his bishop And the same places dooeth sainct Cyprian likewise againe in an other place allege for his owne authoritie beeyng Bishop of Carthage and against the stubbornesse of Pupianus towardes hymself So that saincte Cyprian doeth in all places maintaine the equalitie of bishops and withal ouerthrowe the supremacie of one ouer all directlie againste this place by you as out of Pope Leo alleged But in no place is sainct Cyprian more effectuous and piaine concernyng this matter then in his booke intituled De simplicitate praelatorū where he hath these woordes Dn̄sapostolis oībus post resurrectionem suam parem potestatē tribuit mox Hoc erant vtique caeteri apostoli quod fuit Petrus pari consortio praediti honoris potestatis That is to saie The Lorde after his resurrectiō did geue like orequall power to al his Apostles The other Apostles were the veric same that Peter was beeyng indued with like felowship both of honour and power Thus farre saincte Cyprian who beyng in so many places so directlie againste this vsurped supremacie of one and for the equalitie of all Bishoppes it is to be wondered with what face M. Dorman hath been so bold and busie with S. Cyprian in this his treatie of the popes supremacie Now let vs heare S. Hierome M. Dorman his second witnesse and euen in the same epistle by M. Dorman alleged also Where Saincte Hierome speakyng of the authoritie of Churches and Bishops and makyng thē all equall and none aboue an other hath these woordes Nec altera Romanae vrbis ecclesia altera totius orbis estimanda est c. Wée maie not thinke that the Churche of the citie of Rome is one and the Churche of the whole worlde an other Bothe Fraūce and Britaine now called Englāde Afrike and Persie lande the East countreis and Indie and al barbarous nations woorship one Christe and obserue one rule of truth If you seke for authoritie the worlde is greater then the citie of Rome wheresoeuer any bishoppe is whether he be at Rome or Eugubium at Constantinople or at Rhegium at Alexādria or Tanis he is of the same merite of the same priesthoode The power of riches or basenesse of pouertie maketh not a bishope either higher or lower But thei be al the successors of the Apostles But thou wilte saie how dooe thei at Rome a● the testimonie of the deacon ordein the priest What dooest thou allege to me the custome of one citie what dooest thou chalenge for the lawes of the Churche the vsage of a fewe whereof presumptiō hath risen Thus farre sainct Hierome Vpon the which place Erasmus in his Scholies noteth that Eugubium Rhegium and Tanis were base and little tounes and that sainct Hierome matcheth in paires and couples a poore simple little toune with a noble citie to she we therby that the dignitie of the Bishop is not estéemed by the greatnesse of his diocesse or citie but that all bishops bee equall in office Now let vs compare these twoo sainct Cyprian I saie and saincte Hierome bearyng witnesse with the truthe with Leo onely bearyng witnesse to hymself Leo saieth In the holie Apostles themselues there was a differēce of power and that it was geuen to one to be aboue all the reste On
omnipotente Christo Domino nostro scimus c. Wee acknowledge Cornelius to be a Bishoppe of the moste holie Catholike churche erected by God almightie and Christe our Lorde c. as if thei had said more at large where we before tooke Cornelius to be an vnlawfull vsurper and to communicate with those that had renounced their faithe and therefore to be no member of the moste holy Catholike churche now we acknowledge hym to be a Catholike Bishoppe by God erected and that we were deceiued before in ioignyng with Nouatus againste hym And that this is the true sense of that place saincte Cyprian hymself in his epistle to Stephanus sheweth writyng thus of that same matter Non potest à quoquam nostrum illi communicari qui episcopo Cornelio in Catholica ecclesia dei iudicio cleri ac plebis suffragio ordinato profanum altare erigere adulteram Cathedram collocare sacrilega contra verum sacerdotem sacrificia offerre tentauerit That is None of vs cā communicate with hym who hath attempted to erecte a profane altare and an vntrue chaire againste bishop Cornelius ordeined in the catholike churche by Gods iudgemente and by the election of the Cleargie and people and hath attempted to offer sacrilegious or wicked sacrifice against the true Prieste Thus farre sainct Cyprian Whereby you maie see that he calleth not Cornelius here the bishoppe of the Catholike churche but Bishoppe Cornelius ordeined in the Catholike churche by God his iudgemente and the election of the Cleargie and people And this is all one in sense and meanyng with the other For Episcopus Catholicę ecclesiae and Episcopus in catholica ecclesia be as muche to saie as Catholicus Episcopus a catholike bishoppe and not the Bishoppe of the Catholike or vniuersall Churche as M. Dorman would haue it For this beyng in controuersie whether Cornelius or Nouatus was the true and Catholike Bishoppe or Prieste and whiche was the vsurper and heretike here doo Maximus and Vrbanus with others confesse that Cornelius was the Catholike bishoppe Wherefore M. Dorman in translating the saied place so that it maie seme to make for the Popes supremacie and by the waie remouyng this woorde Sanctissimae from the Catholike churche to attribute it to Cornelius by like to make a shewe that the title of Sanctissimus was of olde appertsining to the bishoppe of Rome doeth herein like him self Now concernyng that whiche foloweth in their confession VVe bee not ignoraunte that there is one God one Christe our Lorde one holie Ghost and that there must be one bishoppe in the Catholike churche or more truely in this place in a Catholike Churche This M. Dorman did not doubte but that the simple sorte would take it to bee a moste plaine proofe not of Cornelius supremacie onely but ex abundāte that he alone was that one Bishoppe whiche ought to be onely in the whole Catholike Churche for so it semeth by his marginall note of one God one Bishoppe c. he meaneth But I trust that fewe will allowe M. Dorman euen of those that be of his own part if he would so wrest sainct Cypriā that as there is one onely God and none but he so there should bée but one onely Bishoppe and no mo but he Whereas nothing lesse was meant by them that made this confession nor by sainct Cyprian who maketh reporte thereof For firste Maximus and his felowes whiche had before ioigned thē selues to Nouatus who chalenged to bée a true catholike bishoppe and bishoppe of Rome also doo now acknowledge Cornelius to be the true bishoppe and because there can be no moe bishoppes in any one catholike churche but one therefore now affirmyng Cornelius to be that one Bishoppe thei doo reiecte Nouatus as no bishoppe but an vsurper and thereby acknoweledge that there ought to bee but one bishoppe in that catholike churche And so nothyng lesse is meant here by one bishoppe then one head bishoppe ouer all other bishoppes muche lesse is meant one bishoppe alone of all the Churche as there is one onely God ouer all as it maie seme that M. Dorman would gather For the declaration whereof it is to be noted that when sainct Cypriā speaketh of one bishop of the catholike churche he meaneth no one speciall Bishoppe ouer all but indifferentlie all and euery catholike bishop throughout the vniuersall churche for that thei haue euery of them the full possessiō of one onely bishoprike Whiche as it is but one throughout all the worlde so hath euery bishop the same wholie and fullie So that when sainct Cyprian speaketh of one Bishoppe onely to rule the Churche he meaneth the Bishoppe of that Diocesse whiche he then entreateth of who so euer and of what countrey so euer he be as here in this epistle he meaneth Cornelius and in his epistle to Pupianus by the said one bishop appoincted by God to rule the churche he meaneth hymself beyng bishop of Carthage For in bothe places he hath the same woordes of one bishoppe appointed to rule the Churche by the contempte of the whiche Bishop heresies doo spryng or arise This remaineth yet more fully to be declared as well by Cornelius as by saincte Cyprian hymselfe in other places First Cornelius writyng to Fabius Bishoppe of Antioche as Eusebius testifieth hath these woordes concerning this verie matter Vindex ille euangelij de Nouato loquitur ignorauit vnum esse debere episcopum ī catholica ecclesia in qua nescit quomodo enim sciret presbyteros esse 46. diaconos 7. hypodiaconos 7. acoluthos 42. c. that is to saie this defendour of the Gospell he speaketh of Nouatus was ignoraunt that there ought to be one Bishop in a Catholike churche in y e whiche he knoweth not for how should he know that there be 46. Priestes 7. Deacons 7. subdeacons 42. inferiour ecclesiasticall ministers or seruiters c. Thus farre Cornelius By whiche woordes it is euident that the Catholike churche whereof Cornelius and Cyprian doo speake and wherein there muste bee but one bishop is not the vniuersall churche throughout the worlde as M. Dorman would haue it vnlesse he thinke that 46. Priestes and 7. Deacōs maie suffice the vniuersall Churche for ministers as well as one onely bishoppe is sufficiente for the heade of the whole Churche for the one is as reasonable as the other but the catholike churche that Cornelius speaketh of here is the particular churche of Rome in the which as one bishop so also 7. Deacons might suffice Whiche particular churche is by Cornelius here by S. Cyprian and other auncient doctors of the churche in their writynges called Catholike because it professed taught the catholike faithe and to notifie it from schismaticall or heretical churches And any other particular church teaching the catholike faithe may in like maner be called a catholike churche or y e catholike churche of suche a citie or countrey Now cōcernyng S. Cyprian
priestes whereof it foloweth also that there is an equaliti● emongest all bishops by Gods lawe as the equall successours of the Apostles And that this is S. Hieromes minde in that place all learned menne who haue redde the saied epistle doo well knowe Nowe to that plac● whiche M. Dorman allegeth out of this epistle Quòd autem postea vnus electus est qui caeteris praeponeretur in schismatis remedium factum est ne vnusquisque ad se trahens ecclesiam rumperet That is to saie That one was afterwarde chosen to rule the reste that was doen for a remedie againste schismes least while euery man would chalenge to hymself the churche by suche halyng and pullyng thei might breake the same Thus farre hath M. Dorman alleged but S. Hierome proceedeth further to declare the same matter by these woordes Nam Alexandriae à Marco Euangelista vsque ad Heraclam Dionysium episcopos praesbyteri semper vnum ex se electum in excelsiori gradu collocatum episcopum nominabant quomodo si exercitus imperatorem faciat aut Diaconi eligant de se quem industrium nouerint archidiaconum vocent Quid enim facit excepta ordinatione episcopus quod praesbyter non faciat That is to saie For at Alexandria from Marke the Euangeliste vnto Heracla and Dionysius beyng bishops there the priestes did euer place one chosen of their companie in the higher roume and named him bishop as if an armie should make a capitaine or deacons should choose one of their owne companie whom thei knowe to be actiue and diligent and call hym Archedeacon For what doth the bishop onely orderyng excepted that a priest maie not doo These are saincte Hieromes woordes Whereby it appeareth plainlie that the woordes of sainct Hierome One chosen afterward emongest them to rule the rest for a remedie of schismes doo appertaine to euery Bishop as head ruler of the Cleargie of his owne Diocesse For saieth S. Hierome suche an heade ruler was chosen at Alexandria in Aegipte where S. Marke the Euangelist Heracla and Dionysius were bishops to gouerne the priestes and cleargie there And withall whatsoeuer was doen afterward was not doen de iure diuino vpō the grounde of Gods lawe as you would haue the Popes supremacie to stande but of an ecclesiastical order and pollicie For that whiche was doen by Goddes lawe was not dooen afterwarde but first this whiche was thus doen afterward saieth sainct Hierome was doen rather for the honour of the priesthood then for the necessitie of the law For by the lawe of God which is first the priest as S. Hierome saieth maie doo asmuche exceptyng orderyng onelie as maie the bishop but afterwarde for order one was placed in the highest place for the auoidyng of schismes And if a prieste by saincte Hieromes minde maie doo asmuche as a Bishoppe I thinke one bishop also may by Gods lawe doo asmuche as an other bishop Further seyng this one afterwarde chosen to rule the reste was chosen aswell at Alexandria as at Rome or elswhere and the Bishop of Alexandria was that rular of the reste of his Cleargie as well as was the bishop of Rome of his owne cleargie it must nedes fall out that these woordes one chosen afterwarde to rule the reste either make for no supremacie of any one bishop ouer all the churche as apperteinyng to euery Bishop in his owne diocesse or if M. Dorman will needes inforce a supremacie by the saied woordes he shal be inforced to confesse the saied supremacie to be commō to the bishop of Alexandria where S. Hierome saith this one was chosen to rule the rest with the bishop of Rome as by the other place laste before alleged by M. Dorman out of S. Cyprian the said supremacie should appertaine to the Bishoppe of Carthage But bothe Carthage and Alexandria are nowe in the handes of Infideles and therefore can there bee no supremacie of the church there and yet aswel there as at Rome where Christ is as muche blasphemed as he is either at Alexandria or Carthage But it is in deede moste plaine by that epistle of S. Hierome that he doeth not meane that one bishoppe should be aboue an other muche lesse one heade ouer all other For he expresly saieth that all bishops be equall and none superiour nor inferiour to an other by Gods lawe Neither doeth it hurte our cause in case that wée graunt to M. Dorman that this place doeth appertaine to the Apostles and that one was chosen emongst the Apostles themselues to haue the chiefe place that is to speake firste to moderate other to staie contention and to remedie schismes Naie it maketh with vs directlie who doo graunt that as emongest those .xij. one was so chosen to bee ruler so it is good that in euery competente number of priests and cleargie one be chosen likewise to be ruler And if M. Dorman vpō this graunt would inferre suche a supremacie of one ouer the rest of the Apostles as the Pope claimeth ouer the churche Saincte Paule reprouyng Peter more sharplie to his face then is lawfull now for any bishop to deale with the Pope dooeth proue that Peter had no suche supremacie For though the Pope by his abominable dooynges dooe damne hymselfe and innumerable other yet maie no man be so bolde as to blame him therefore but let him goe vncontrouled to the deuill of hel Neither foloweth it though one man bee chosen so to bee ruler emongest xij therefore maie one also bee chosen to bee ruler ouer all the Cleargie of the worlde of all nations and languages and to farre of also to be well ruled No more dooeth it folowe for that S. Hierome dooeth saie that one was chosen of the companie of the Priestes of euery one Churche or diocesse to rule the reste as namelie was dooen at Alexandria the whiche ruler was called the bishoppe therefore ought there to bee one chosen to rule all bishops of all diocesses namelie at Rome the said one ruler to be called Pope or head of the vntuersall Churche For this kinde of collection vsuall to M. Dorman I haue by his owne former reasons and similitudes of seuerall gouernours or Princes necessarie to bee ouer euery citie countrey or kyngdome and that none can be ouer the whole worlde proued to be a vaine and leude collectiō And I haue also by his owne witnesses S. Cyprian and S. Hierome and by the verie places of them by him guilefullie wrested at large declared the same And I shall yet hereafter more plainlie declare that S. Cyprian and S. Hierome whom he hath alleged for the supremacie of one that is to wit the Bishoppe of Rome are of all other writers moste cleare against him and that in the verie same places by hym for his purpose alleged so that it maie bee iustlie meruelled whether M. Dorman were so ignoraunte that he should bring those for his witnesses who dootestifie moste against hym or so
impudente that he cared not whom he brought or what he saied so he mighte seeme to saie and bryng somethyng were it neuer so farre from or so muche against his purpose Dorman Fol. 5. 6. Leo of whom the whole Councell of Calcedon as one of the greatest for nomber so of all men accōpted emongeste the fower generall for authoritie reported so honourably that thei did not onely with one voice all openly professe themselues to beleue as he did but called him also by the name of Sanctissimus et beatissimus that is moste holie and blessed of all other speakyng of the misticall bodie of Christes Churche writeth after this sort Haec conn●xio totius quidem corporis vnanimitatem requirit c This combination and ioignyng together he speaketh of the bodie of Christes Churche requireth an vnitie of the whole bodie but especially of the priestes emongest whom although there be one dignitie common to them all yet is there not one generall order emongest them all For euen emongest the blessed Apostles in that similitude of honor was there yet a difference of power and whereas in their election thei were all like yet was it geuen to one to bee aboue all the rest Out of whiche forme is taken our difference of Bishoppes and by merueilous order and disposition is it prouided that euery one should not chalenge to hymself euery thyng but that in euery Prouince there should bee one whose iudgement emongest the reste of his brethren should bee chief and of moste authoritie And againe certain appoincted in greater cities whose care should be greater by whom to the only seate of Peter the charge of the vniuersall Churche might haue recourse that nothyng might at any tyme dissent from the head Nowell The Councell of Calcedon professed that thei beleued as did Leo concerning the moste blessed Trinitie condemned Eutyches heresie but what is that to the purpose We professe that we doo therein beleue as did Leo and we doo like wise condemne the heresie of Eutyches For that the saied Councell calleth hym Sanctissimum beatissimum the moste holie and blessed what maketh that for his supremacie All the Priestes and deacons of Rome doo call S. Cyprian bishoppe of Carthage Beatissimum gloriosissimum papam the moste blessed and moste glorious Pope as I haue before noted and yet I thinke that M. Dorman will not therefore graunt sainct Cyprian the supremacie But what the Councell of Calcedon graunted to Leo Bishop of Rome or is feigned to haue graunted to hym or what thei graunted equallie with hym to Anatholius bishop of Constantinople and what Leo did like or mislike allowe or reiect of the said Councell I shall haue more conueniente place to declare afterwardes where M. Dorman dooeth more speciallie entreate of the saied councell Now concernyng this epistle by M. Dorman alleged this is first moste euident that the epistles caried about in the names of the firste auncient Popes are either forged or at the leaste corrupted by their ambitious successours of later tyme to make a shewe of the antiquitie of their chalenge of the supremacie and this to bée true is easie to perceiue by many circumstances as shall hereafter at large bee declared But be it that these be Leos owne woordes and were this Leo accompted neuer so holie yet I trust he beyng bishop of Rome maie netther bee his owne witnesse nor iudge in his owne cause of the Popes supremacie The holiest and the beste men that bee are lightly partiall in their owne matters Wherefore Christ our sauiour moste woorthie of all credite saieth Si testimonium perhibeam de meipso testimonium meum non est verum If I beare witnesse of my self my testimonie is not true whiche he saieth for that were his testimonie neuer so true as it was euer moste true yet beyng of hymself it would not be taken of men as true as it appeareth by the woordes of the Phariseis to our sauiour Tu de te●pso testimonium perhibes c. Thou say the Phariseis beareth witnesse of thy self thy witnesse is not true If Christes woordes maie not here take place let the Pope then cause this note to be blotted out of his own canon lawe also Papa iudex esse nō debet in causa propria The Pope maie not bee iudge in his owne cause For it standeth there in vaine as it seemeth To the whiche yet it appeareth that Pighius in the fifte booke of his Hierarchie had a respece for he allegyng a Clementine that is to saie a Popes decree for his purpose hath these woordes Quum Clementinam audis nolo imagineris audire te vnius hominis Romani pontificis in sua ipsius causa sententiam sed cogita te sententiam audire Viennensis concilij in quo ex vniuersa ecclesia conuenerūt plusquā 300 episcopi That is to saie When thou hearest the name of a Clementine I would not haue thee to imagine that thou hearest the iudgemente of one man to witte the bishop of Rome in his own cause but consider that thou doest heare the Sentence of the Councell of Vienne in the whiche moe then 300. Bishops were assembled out of the vniuersall Churche Thus farre Pighius Wherby it maie seeme that he dooeth not thinke the Popes onely testimonie in his owne cause to be sufficient D. Hardyng who dooeth folowe Pighius verie muche saieth that he will not allege the testimonies of many Popes for the proofe of the supremacie for that wee doo make though without all cause saieth he exception against the popes as vnlawfull witnesses in their own cause And therefore he is somewhat more shamefaste then M. Dorman and hath onely noted this epistle of Pope Leo whiche M. Dorman thus largely rehearseth and with marginall notes so beautifieth as some speciall place to prooue the Popes supremacie As he laith on loade cōtinually not of popishe witnesses but Popes thēselues witnesses in their owne false claime though he can not dissemble hymself in an other place but that wee maie make exception vnto them as not indifferent witnesses in their owne quarelles Well if these causes of exception to Popes in their own cause whiche I haue alleged shall not seeme to D. Harding and M. Dorman sufficiente I trust yet that all reasonable indifferent men shall iudge them sufficient And for more reasonable cause of exceptiō to this Leo here and all other Popes too in this matter wee saie that Zozimus or Sosimus bishop of Rome about a. 24. yeres before this Leo moued with an ambitious desire of this supremacie which the bishops of Rome his successours now striue for as it were pro aris focis for life and death as one might saie did corrupte and falsifie the decrees of the Nicene Councell pretendyng that it was decreed in that Councell that the bishop of Rome should be the chief iudge aboue all other bishops that it should
the contrary parte S. Cyprian saith The Lorde gaue like and equall authoritie to all his Apostles all the Apostles bee indued with like felowship bothe of honour and power Thus saieth S. Cyprian in his booke intitled De simplicitate praelatorum Of the simplicitis of priestes noting them as double faced prelates that teache or attempt the cōtrary Againe Leo saieth Out of this forme is taken our difference of Bishoppes that in euery Prouince one bee chief and of moste authoritie and the bishop of greater cities to haue greater care and consequētly that he who sitteth in Peters chaire should haue charge be heade of the vniuersall Churche Thus saieth Leo and thus he saieth because he hymself would be Lorde and head ouer all the churche S. Cyprian saieth Euery bishop hath his seuerall portiō of Christes flocke to rule and gouerne for the which he must geue an accōpt vnto the Lorde And that those who are vnder the charge of the bishop of one countrey maie not appeale to a bishop of an other nor the cause determined by one Bishop maie be called in question before an other for that the authoritie of one Bishop is not inferiour to an other nor the authoritie of the bishop of Afrike is lesse then the authoritie of the bishops of Italie or Rome it self for his woordes haue euidentlie that relation and that none thinke the authoritie of one bishop to be lesse then the authoritie of an other bishop but a fewe wicked and desperate men Thus you see how your owne witnesses are at square and there is yea and naie betwéene this your Leo and S. Cypriā in these matters S Hierome agreing with S. Cyprian saith All churches worshippyng one Christ and obseruyng one rule of truthe are equall with the churche of Rome all bishoppes bee the successours of the Apostles and of one priesthoode and of the same merite and dignitie Thus saieth S. Hierome But Leo saith contrary that it was geuen to one to be aboue all the rest that thei who be appoincted in greater diocesses or cities haue more care and authoritie and that th' onely see of Peter hath charge of the vniuersall Churche is heade therof Thus saith Leo. S. Hierome saith The lesse diocesse or toune or the poorer estate maketh not the bishop lower or lesse in authoritie the greater prouince the greater citie the greater riches make not a Bishop greater in authoritie And though Leo doo make neuer so muche of Rome and set it aboue the vniuersall Churche S. Hierome saith Th' authoritie of the vniuersall churche is greater then the authoritie of the churche of Rome as the worlde is greater then the citie of Rome And he saith further What dooest thou allege me the vse of the one citie of Rome for a lawe of the churche wherof riseth presumption of a fewe against all men I thinke y e fire and water are not of more contrary nature then are S. Cyprian and S. Hierome contrarie to that epistle alleged by M. Dorman as Leo the Popes epistle nor that any witnesses brought againste a man by his aduersarie euer haue more directlie testified againste him then these twoo witnesses S. Cyprian and sainct Hierome brought in by D. Hardyng and M. Dorman for them dooe testifie againste them euen in the verie places by themselues alleged besides their consonancie with themselues in al other places and the consent of S. Augustine and twoo hundreth and moe Bishops agrecyng with them againste this Leo. What should one iudge of these mē bringyng in together three witnesses of the whiche twoo are moste directlie againste them and againste the thirde also who alone seemeth to make with them that thirde as in his owne cause to bee suspected and further to bee doubted also whether it bee he in deede or an other vnder his name and suche as he is the woordes of his testimonie either manifestlie falsified or els at the least in diuers copies beyng not onely diuers but cleane contrarie as hauyng in one copie it is so in an other if M. Dorman slepte not it is not so And yet bothe these impossible bothe to bee true bee one mannes testimonie of one and the same matter and in one and the same place also Were these menne so blinde that thei did not see this or so shamelesse that seyng and knowyng thei durst yet allege suche witnesses for them So blind bussardes thei tooke all menne in the worlde sauyng themselues to bee Surelie me thinketh it to bee an harde case and a silie shamelesse shifte for menne to bee driuen to allege those authours and to bring those witnesses for them whose testimonies dooe thus conuicte them and quite ouerthrowe their cause and withall shame them vtterlie And verie miserable is the Pope and Poperie being driuen now at the laste to the patrocinie of suche proctours who openyng and bewraiyng the weakenesse of the groundes and foundations thereof so long tyme heretofore by ignoraunce of the worlde iudged sure will themselues bryng all Poperie beyng alreadie of it self ruinous to speedie and vtter destruction For the whiche also all godlie and suche as loue the truthe haue greate cause to geue God greate and hartie thankes for that these causes as desperate beyng forsaken of almoste all learned graue men M. Dorman with suche other as he is haue thus taken them in hande and that suche leude matters haue founde at the proctours and patrons moste méete for them Dorman Fol. 6. Hetherto haue you harde good readers beside the experience that we haue of ciuile policie and worldlie gouernemente the opinions also of saincte Cyprian sainct Hierome and holie Leo all three agreing in one that there must nedes be one iudge in Christes church in his steede that the health of the churche dependeth vpon the authoritie of the chief Prieste that if his authoritie bee not aboue all the reste there will so many Schismes breake in vpon vs as there bee Priestes that for the auoidyng of that mischiefe there was one chosen euen amongest the Apostles to gouerne the reste Last of all that that vsage in Chris●es churche to haue one head is no newe inuention as some men falslie report but taken from the example of the Apostles thēselues Nowell Hetherto haue you heard good readers how of the experience of ciuile policie and worldlie gouernment wherein euery seuerall countrey citie and companie haue their seuerall Princes rulers and heades maister Dorman would moste l●udely gather that al churches dispersed in all countries cities tounes villages nations peoples and lāguages impossible to be knowē and more impossible to be gouerned but of Christ onely the onely head of that vniuersalitie should haue one onely heade here in earth You haue hearde also how ignorantlie if he did not vnderstand how shamelesly if he did vnderstande he hath alleged S. Cyprian and S. Hierome for him beyng bothe in all other places vniuersallie and in the verie speciall places also by
he declareth in many places that euery Bishop in his owne diocesse hath the full possession of y e bishoprike whiche is one throughout all the worlde therfore is the onely bishop and head of that his owne Catholike church as namely in his epistle to Antonianus where he hath these woordes Vna est Ecclesia à Christo per totum mundum in multa membra diuisa item episcopatus vnus episcoporum multorum concordi numerositate diffusus c. That is to saie there is one churche from Christ throughout the whole worlde diuided likewise one bishoprike spread abroade in the agreable multitude of many Bishops But S. Cyprian declareth his minde moste plainly of this one bishoprike wholy and equally possessed of all and euery bishop in his booke De simplicitate praelatorum not farre from the beginnyng writyng thus Vnum corpus vnus spiritus vna spes vocationis vestrę vnus dominus vna fides vnum Baptisma vnus deus Quam vnitatem firmiter tenere vindicare debemus maximè episcopi qui ī ecclesia praesidemus vt episcopatum quoque ipsum vnum atque indiuisum probemus Nemo fraternitatem mendacio fallat nemo fidei veritatē perfida preuaricatione corrumpat Episcopatus vnus est cuius à singulis in solidum pars tenetur Ecclesia vna est quae in multitudinē latiùs incremento foecunditatis extenditur quomodo solis multi radij sed lumen vnum rami arboris multi sed robur vnum tenaci radice fundatū c. Whiche is to saie There is one bodie and one spirit one hope of your vocation one Lorde one Faithe one Baptisme one God The whiche vnitie we must firmely hold and mainteine speciallie wee Bishoppes whiche doo gouerne in the Churche that we maie proue the bishoprike it self also to bee one and vndeuided Let no man by liyng deceiue the brotherhodde let no man corrupte the veritie of faith by false preuarication There is one Bishoprike parte whereof euery man hath wholie or more plainely there is one Bishoprike whiche euery bishop hath wholie for his part There is one churche whiche is spread abroade by increase of fruictefulnesse into a multitude as there be many beames of the sūne but one light many braunches of the tree but one bodie of it staied vpon a sure roote c. Thus farre saincte Cyprian with muche more processe to proue the vnitie of the churche and the vnitie of one bishoprike whiche euery Bishop wholie hath for his parte and so consequentlie all Bishops to be equall Wherefore maister Dorman hath in vain noted in the margēt of his booke in this place One God one Christe one holie Ghost one Bishoppe as though the Bishoppe of Rome were that one Bishop and none but he as there is one onely God and none but he Where as that place of sainct Cyprian as by conference with this place appeareth proueth that though there be one bishoprike throughout all the worlde yet are there many bishops and that euery one in his owne Diocesse hath the whole possession of that one Bishoprike and that therefore there is an equalitie of all Bishops and so consequently no superioritie of any one ouer all as M. Dorman would haue it For if euery Bishop haue in solidum that is to saie fullie and wholie that one Bishoprike or bishoplie function and office as S. Cyprian saieth no one cā haue more then the whole and therefore no one can be aboue all other Whiche maie appeare more plainlie by the comparisons of one faithe and one Baptisme whiche saincte Cyprian in the same place vseth For as there is but one faithe though there be many faithfull persones one Baptisme though many Baptised so there is by sainct Cyprian his iudgement but one Bishoprike yet be there many Bishops whiche one Bishoprike is equallie and wholie diuided emongeste all the said Bishops as faithe and Baptisme are equally and wholie diuided emongeste the faithfull Baptised and yet remaineth still but one Bishoprike as there doeth but one faithe and one Baptisme for that euery bishoppe hath that one bishoprike wholie as euery true faithfull hath the one christian faithe wholie and euery one that is duely Baptised hath that one Baptisme wholie And consequently it foloweth that as no one man hath any superioritie in Baptisme or faithe aboue other truely faithfull and Baptised so hath no one bishoppe any superioritie ouer other bishoppes for that euery bishop hath that one bishoprike wholie and therfore none hath it more then other but be all equall in office and authoritie This is S. Cyprian his minde of one Bishopricke whiche euery bishop hath wholie and equallie and is therfore in his owne Diocesse the one onely bishop in the catholike Churche to gouerne the same Whereby any manne but of meane vnderstandyng maie well perceiue that this saiyng of one bishoppe vsed by sainct Cyprian maketh nothyng for the bishoppe of Rome his supremacie but directlie againste it makyng all other bishops equall with hym as thei whiche haue in solidum wholie that one Bishoprike as well as he And therefore when sainct Cyprian nameth one bishop in the catholike church or of a catholike churche he meaneth the bishop of that speciall diocesse which he entreateth of of what countrey so euer it be as here he meaneth Cornelius and by the like wordes in other places he meaneth other bishops and of other diocesses Whiche is moste euident by the like wordes of one Bishop who gouerneth the church vsed by the same saincte Cyprian in this epistle to Pupianus His woordes be these Episcopus qui vnus e●● ecclesiae praeest cōtemnitur c. The Bishop which is one and gouerneth the Churche is contemned and sette at nought c. Where it is moste euident that by that one Bishop who gouerneth the Churche and is contemned he meaneth himself beyng bishop of Carthage and by the saied Pupian despised as is at large alreadie declared Whiche place yet M. Dorman alittle before alledged for the supremacie of the Bishop of Rome as leudelie as he doeth this place here To conclude Maximus and his felowes had a controuersie with Cornelius altogether diuers from our cōtrouersies with the Popes of Rome and therefore their exāple apperteineth nothyng to this case of the Popes supremacie then neither mooued nor knowen And it is no meruaile if that Maximus Vrbanus and Sidonius beyng priestes of Rome there hauyng with Nouatus beyng hymself Priest of Rome also made so great stirre and businesse against Cornelius recōciled themselues to Cornelius the Romaine bishop beyng their own bishop whiche apperteineth nothyng at all to vs who haue nothing to doo with the bishop of Rome Dorman fol. 3. So did Vrsatius and Valens forsakyng the heresie of Arius offer vp their recantation to Iulius then Bishoppe of Rome By this meane● good Christian readers retourned thei to the Churche by this muste you retourne that haue straied what