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A66445 The blovdy tenent, of persecution, for cause of conscience, discussed, in a conference betweene trvth and peace vvho, in all tender affection, present to the high court of Parliament, as the result of their discourse, these, amongst other passages, of highest consideration. Williams, Roger, 1604?-1683.; Cotton, John, 1584-1652. 1644 (1644) Wing W2758; ESTC R2405 232,471 275

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sonnes of men in this point To illustrate this The Church or company of worshippers whether true or false is like unto a Body or Colledge of Physitians in a Citie like unto a Corporation Society or Company of East-Indie or Turkie-Merchants or any other Societie or Company in London which Companies may hold their Courts keep their Records hold disputations and in matters concerning their Societie may dissent divide breake into Schismes and Factions sue and implead each other at the Law yea wholly breake up and dissolve into pieces and nothing and yet the peace of the Citie not be in the least measure impaired or disturbed because the essence or being of the Citie and so the well-being and peace thereof is essentially distinct from those particular Societies the Citie-Courts Citie-Lawes Citie-punishments distinct from theirs The Citie was before them and stands absolute and intire when such a Corporation or Societie is taken down For instance further The City or Civill state of Ephesus was essentially distinct from the worship of Diana in the Citie or of the whole city Againe the Church of Christ in Ephesus which were Gods people converted and call'd out from the worship of that City unto Christianitie or worship of God in Christ was distinct from both Now suppose that God remove the Candlestick from Ephesus yea though the whole Worship of the Citie of Ephesus should be altered yet if men be true and honestly ingenuous to Citie-covenants Combinations and Principles all this might be without the least impeachment or infringement of the Peace of the City of Ephesus Thus in the Citie of Smirna was the Citie it selfe or Civill estate one thing The Spirituall or Religious state of Smirna another The Church of Christ in Smirna distinct from them both and the Synagogue of the Iewes whether literally Iewes as some thinke or mystically false Christians as others called the Synagogue of Sathan Revel 2. distinct from all these And notwithstanding these spirituall oppositions in point of Worship and Religion yet heare we not the least noyse nor need we if Men keep but the Bond of Civility of any Civill breach or breach of Civill peace amongst them and to persecute Gods people there for Religion that only was a breach of Civilitie it selfe CHAP. VII Peace NOw to the second Quaerie What it is to hold forth Doctrine or Practice in an arrogant or impetuous way Truth Although it hath not pleased Mr. Cotton to declare what is this arrogant or impetuous holding forth of Doctrine or Practice tending to disturbance of Civill peace I cannot but expresse my sad and sorrowfull observation how it pleaseth God to leave him as to take up the common reproachfull accusation of the Accuser of Gods children to wit that they are arrogant and impetuous which charge together with that of obstinacie pertinacie pride Troublers of the Citie c. Sathan commonly loads the meekest of the Saints and Witnesses of Iesus with To wipe off therefore these fowle blurs and aspersions from the faire and beautifull face of the Spouse of Iesus I shall select and propose 5 or 6 cases for which Gods witnesses in all Ages and Generations of Men have been charged with arrogance impetuousnes c. and yet the God of Heaven and Iudge of all men hath graciously discharged them from such crimes and maintained and avowed them for his faithfull and peaceable servants First Gods people have proclaimed taught disputed for divers months together a new Religion and Worship contrary to the Worship projected in the Towne City or State where they have lived or where they have travelled as did the Lord Iesus Himselfe over all Galile and the Apostles after Him in all places both in the Synagogues and Market-places as appeares Acts 17. 2. 17. Acts 18. 48. Yet this no Arrogance nor Impetuousnesse Secondly Gods servants have been zealous for their Lord and Master even to the very faces of the Highest and concerning the persons of the Highest so far as they have opposed the Truth of God So Eliah to the face of Ahab It is not I but thou and thy Fathers house that troublest Israel So the Lord Iesus concerning Herod Goe tell that Fox So Paul God delivered me from the mouth of the Lion and to Ananias Thou whited wall and yet in all this no Arrogance nor Impetuousnesse Thirdly Gods people have been immoveable constant and resolved to the death in refusing to submit to false Worships and in preaching and professing the true worship contrary to expresse command of publicke Authority So the three famous Worthies against the command of Nobilchadnezzar and the uniforme conformity of all Nations agreeing upon a false worship Dan. 3. So the Apostles Acts 4 and 5 chap. and so the witnesses of Iesus in all ages who loved not their lives to the death Rev. 12. not regarding sweet life nor bitter death and yet not Arrogant nor Impetuous Fourthly Gods people since the comming of the King of Israel the Lord Iesus have openly and constantly profest that no Civill Magistrate no King nor Caesar have any power over the Soules or Consciences of their Subjects in the matters of God and the Crowne of Iesus but the Civill Magistrates themselves yea Kings and Keisars are bound to subject their owne soules to the Ministery and Church the Power and Government of this Lord Iesus the King of Kings Hence was the charge against the Apostles false in Civill but true in spiritualls that they affirmed that there was another King one Iesus Acts 17. 7. And indeed this was the great charge against the Lord Iesus Himself which the Iews laid against Him and for which he suffered Death as appears by the Accusation written over His Head upon the Gallows Iohn 9. 19. Iesus of Nazareth King of the Iewes This was and is the summe of all true preaching of the Gospell or glad newes viz. That God anointed Jesus to be the sole King and Governour of all the Israel of God in spirituall and soule causes Psal. 2. 6. Acts 2. 36. Yet this Kingly power of His he resolved not to manage in His owne Person but Ministerially in the hands of such Messengers which he sent forth to preach and baptise and to such as beleeved that word they preached Iohn 17. And yet here no Arrogance nor Impetuousnesse 5. Gods people in delivering the Minde and Will of God concerning the Kingdomes and Civill States where they have lived have seemed in all shew of common sense and rationall policie if men looke not higher with the eye of saith to endanger and overthrow the very Civill State as appeareth by all Ieremses preaching and counsell to King Zedechia his Princes and people insomuch that the charge of the Princes against Ieremiah was that he discouraged the Army from fighting against the Babylonians and weakned the Land from its own defence and this charge in the eye of reason seemed not to be unreasonable
THE BLOVDY TENENT of PERSECUTION for cause of CONSCIENCE discussed in A Conference betweene TRVTH and PEACE VVHO In all tender Affection present to the High Court of Parliament as the Result of their Discourse these amongst other Passages of highest consideration Printed in the Year 1644. FIrst That the blood of so many hundred thousand souls of Protestants and Papists spilt in the War● of present and former Ages for their respective Consciences is not required nor accepted by Iesus Christ the Prince of Peace Secondly Pregnant Scriptures and Arguments are throughout the Worke proposed against the Doctrine of Persecution for for cause of Conscience Thirdly Satisfactorie Answers are given to Scriptures and objections produced by Mr. Calvin Beza Mr. Cotton and the Ministers of the New English Churches and others former and later tending to prove the Doctrine of Persecution for cause of Conscience Fourthly The Doctrine of Persecution for cause of Conscience is proved guilty of all the blood of the Soules crying for vengeance under the Altar Fifthly All Civill States with their Officers of justice in their respective constitutions and administrations are proved essentially Civill and therefore not Iudges Governours or Defendours of the Spirituall or Christian state and Worship Sixtly It is the will and command of God that since the comming of his Sonne the Lord Iesus a permission of the most Paganish Iewish Turkish or Antichristian consciences and worships bee granted to all men in all Nations and Countries and they are onely to bee fought against with that Sword which is only in Soule matters able to conquer to wit the Sword of Gods Spirit the Word of God Seventhly The state of the Land of Israel the Kings and people thereof in Peace War is proved figurative and ceremoniall and no patterne nor president for any Kingdom or civill state in the world to follow Eightly God requireth not an uniformity of Religion to be inacted and inforced in any civill state which inforced uniformity sooner or later is the greatest occasion of civill Warre ravishing of conscience persecution of Christ Iesus in his servants and of the hypocrisie and destruction of millions of souls Ninthly In holding an inforced uniformity of Religion in a civill state we must necessarily disclaime our desires and hopes of the Iewes conversion to Christ. Tenthly An inforced uniformity of Religion throughout a Nation or civill state confounds the Civill and Religious denies the principles of Chr●stianity and civility and that Iesus Christ is come in the Flesh. Eleventhly The permission of other consciences and worships then a state professeth only can according to God procure a firme and lasting peace good assurance being taken according to the wisdome of the civill state for uniformity of civill obedience from all sorts Twelfthly lastly true civility and Christianity may both flourish in a State or Kingdome notwithstanding the permission of divers and contrary consciences either of Iew or Gentile TO THE RIGHT HONORABLE both Houses of the High Court of PARLIAMENT Right Honourable and Renowned Patriots NExt to the saving of your own soules in the lamentable shipwrack of Mankind your taske as Christians is to save the Soules but as Magistrates the Bodies and Goods of others Many excellent Discourses have been presented to your Fathers hands and Yours in former and present Parliaments I shall be humbly bold to say that in what concernes your duties as Magistrates towards others a more necessary and seasonable debate was never yet presented Two things your Honours here may please to view in this Controversie of Persecution for cause of Conscience beyond what 's extant First the whole Body of this Controversie form'd pitch'd in true Battalia Secondly although in respect of my selfe it be impar congressus yet in the power of that God who is Maximus in Mini●is Your Honours shall see the Controversie is discussed with men as able as most eminent for abilitie and pietie Mr. Co●ton and the New English Ministers When the Prophets in Scripture have given their Coats of Armes and Escutch●ons to Great Men Your Honours know the Babylonian Monarch hath the Lyon the Persian the Beare the Grecian the Leopard the Romane a compound of the former 3. most strange and dreadfull Dan. 7. Their oppressing plundring ravishing murthering not only of the bodies but the soules of Men are large explaining commentaries of such similitudes Your Honours have been famous to the end of the World for your unparallel'd wisdome courage justice mercie in the vindicating your Civill Lawes Liberties c. Yet let it not be grievous to your Honours thoughts to ponder a little why all the Prayers and Teares and Fastings in this Nation have not pierc'd the Heavens and quench'd these Flames which yet who knowes how far they 'll spread and when they 'll out Your Honours have broke the jawes of the Oppressour and taken the prey out of their Teeth Iob. 29. For which Act I believe it hath pleased the most High God to set a Guard not only of Trained men but of mighty Angels to secure your sitting and the Citie I feare we are not pardoned though reprieved O that there may be a lengthning of Londons tranquilitie of the Parliaments safetie by mercy to the poore Dan. 4. Right Honourable Soule yokes Soule oppressions plundrings ravishings c. are of a crimson and deepest dye and I believe the chiefe of Englands sins unstopping the Viols of Englands present sorrowes This glasse presents your Honours with Arguments from Religion Reason Experience all proving that the greatest yoakes yet lying upon English necks the peoples and Your own are of a spirituall and soule nature All former Parliaments have changed these yoakes according to their consciences Popish or Protestant 'T is now your Honours turne at helme and as your task so I hope your res●lution not to change for that is but to turne the wheele which another Parliament and the very next may turne againe but to ●ase the Subjects and Your selves from a yoake as was once spoke in a case not unlike Act 15. which neither You nor your Fathers were ever able to beare Most Noble Senatours Your Fathers whose seats You fill are mouldred and mouldring their braines their tongu●s c. to ashes in the pit of rottenesse They and You must shortly together with two worlds of men appeare at the great Barre It shall then be no griefe of heart that you have now attended to the cries of Soules thousands oppressed millions ravished by the Acts and Statutes concerning Soules not yet repealed Of Bodies impoverished imprisoned c. for their soules beliefe yea slaughtered on heapes for Religions controversies in the Warres of present and former Ages Notwithstanding the successe of later times wherein sundry opinions have been hatched about the subject of Religion a man may clearly discerne with his eye and as it were touch with his finger that according to the verity of holy Scriptures c. mens consciences ought in no sort