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A69143 Miscellania or a treatise Contayning two hundred controuersiall animaduersions, conducing to the study of English controuersies in fayth, and religion. VVritten by N.N.P. and dedicated to the yonger sort of Catholike priests, and other students in the English seminaries beyond the seas. With a pareneticall conclusion vnto the said men. Anderton, Lawrence, attributed name. 1640 (1640) STC 576; ESTC S115142 202,826 416

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do_v still_o remain_v at_o one_o time_n though_o far_o remote_a one_o from_o another_o whereas_o these_o precedent_n and_o future_a time_n in_o both_o which_o one_o and_o the_o same_o jnstant_a of_o duration_n or_o eternity_n be_v be_v ever_o in_o a_o flow_a and_o depart_a motion_n and_o consequent_o can_v by_v any_o possibility_n remain_v together_o for_o we_o see_v that_o the_o time_n past_a do_v ever_o give_v place_n to_o the_o time_n to_o come_v thus_o far_o of_o these_o former_a animadversion_n in_o this_o place_n to_o show_v that_o it_o be_v possible_a that_o christ_n bo●●_n may_v be_v in_o several_a place_n at_o one_o and_o th●_n same_o tyme._n animadversion_n lxxxxiv_n in_o all_o positive_a and_o affirmative_a point_n o●_n faith_n the_o protestant_n do_v agree_v with_o the_o catholics_n the_o protestant_n borrow_v th●_n say_v affirmative_a point_n from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n according_a hereto_o we_o find_v luth●●_n thus_o to_o write_v we_o baptist_n we_o luther_n lib._n contra_fw-la ana._n baptist_n confess_v that_o there_o be_v under_o the_o papacy_n most_o of_o the_o christian_a good_a y●●_n rather_o all_o the_o christian_a good_a and_o that_o from_o thence_o it_o come_v to_o us._n we_o confess_v that_o there_o be_v i●_n the_o papacy_n true_a scripture_n true_a baptism_n the_o true_a sacrament_n of_o the_o altar_n the_o true_a key_n to_o the_o remission_n of_o sin_n the_o true_a office_n of_o preach_v true_a catechism_n etc._n etc._n i_o say_v further_o there_o be_v in_o th●_n papacy_n true_a christianity_n or_o rather_o the_o tru●_n kernel_n of_o christianity_n thus_o luther_n to_o the_o former_a position_n i_o adjoine_v this_o follow_a in_o such_o point_n of_o faith_n wherein_o protestancy_n dissent_v from_o the_o roman_a church_n all_o the_o say_a point_n be_v merre_o negation_n to_o the_o contrary_a affirmative_a article_n believe_v by_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n as_o for_o example_n denial_n of_o real_a presence_n denial_n of_o pray_v to_o saint_n denial_n of_o freewill_n and_o so_o of_o the_o rest_n now_o from_o these_o two_o proposition_n do_v result_v these_o inference_n or_o conclusion_n follow_v the_o first_o that_o the_o protestant_n as_o he_o believe_v any_o affirmative_a article_n with_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o that_o respect_n he_o be_v not_o a_o protestant_n but_o rather_o a_o catholic_a as_o ●king_v the_o belief_n of_o they_o from_o the_o catholic_a church_n as_o be_v above_o say_v the_o se●ond_a inference_n that_o protestancy_n as_o pro●stancy_n consist_v in_o denial_n of_o such_o affirmative_a point_n which_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n affirm_v to_o be_v true_a and_o not_o in_o believe_v ●ith_o the_o say_a church_n certain_a chief_a point_n ●f_n christianity_n the_o three_o inference_n see_v ●he_v reduplicative_a formality_n of_o protestancy_n re_v in_o negation_n or_o privation_n of_o a_o affirmative_a faith_n and_o see_v negation_n or_o privation_n have_v no_o entity_n subsistence_n or_o real_a be_v that_o therefore_o protestancy_n as_o protestancy_n have_v no_o reality_n of_o be_v but_o be_v in_o itself_o a_o mere_a nonentity_n or_o nothing_o &_o consequent_o it_o follow_v that_o protestancy_n can_v proceed_v from_o god_n who_o be_v the_o author_n of_o thing_n and_o of_o that_o which_o be_v but_o not_o of_o that_o which_o be_v not_o or_o be_v nothing_o the_o last_o inference_n shall_v be_v that_o protestant_n by_o their_o denial_n of_o so_o many_o affirmative_a article_n of_o christianity_n may_v seem_v to_o bear_v great_a reference_n to_o antichrist_n who_o at_o his_o come_n shall_v by_o his_o denial_n of_o all_o point_n of_o christian_a religion_n seek_v what_o in_o he_o lie_v to_o annihilate_v and_o overthrow_v all_o christian_a religion_n and_o for_o such_o his_o proceed_v some_o ancient_a father_n do_v conjecture_v that_o his_o name_n shall_v be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v nego_fw-la as_o hippolytus_n martyr_n write_v in_o oratione_fw-la de_fw-la consummatione_fw-la mundi_fw-la and_o this_o both_o by_o reason_n that_o this_o greek_a word_n make_v up_o the_o number_n to_o wit_n 666._o which_o be_v ascribe_v peculiar_o to_o antichrist_n in_o the_o apocalypse_v cap._n 13._o as_o also_o in_o that_o antichrist_n &_o his_o minister_n at_o his_o come_n both_o in_o their_o denial_n and_o work_n shall_v labour_v mighty_o to_o evert_v christian_a religion_n animadversion_n lxxxxv_n though_o protestancy_n seem_v to_o maintain_v some_o affirmative_a position_n as_o parity_n of_o minister_n marriage_n of_o priest_n and_o other_o votary_n reprobation_n christ_n only_a mediatorship_n by_o way_n of_o jntercession_n christ_n suffer_v in_o soul_n yet_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o these_o poution_n be_v only_o affirmative_a in_o word_n but_o mere_o negative_a in_o sense_n since_o they_o be_v negative_n to_o the_o monarchy_n of_o the_o church_n goverment●_n to_o vow_a chastity_n to_o universality_n of_o grace_n to_o the_o intercession_n of_o saint_n and_o to_o the_o all_o sufficiency_n of_o christ_n corporal_a death_n all_o which_o our_o catholic_a point_n be_v affirmative_a such_o be_v the_o subtlety_n of_o innovation_n in_o doctrine_n as_o for_o the_o great_a honour_n to_o invest_v their_o negative_a tenet_n in_o affirmative_a title_n animadversion_n lxxxxvi_n though_o in_o show_n of_o word_n falshood_n as_o be_v above_o show_v may_v be_v deliver_v in_o affirmative_n so_o i_o here_o say_v that_o truth_n sometime_o be_v deliver_v in_o negative_a word_n notwithstanding_o truth_n be_v ever_o affirmative_a and_o falsehood_n negative_a and_o therefore_o the_o schoolman_n true_o teach_v intellectus_fw-la 17._o intellectus_fw-la s._n thomas_n part_n 1._o q._n 17._o decipitu●_n non_fw-la circa_fw-la quid_fw-la est_fw-la sed_fw-la circa_fw-la quid_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la to_o exemplify_v this_o animadversion_n to_o say_v god_n be_v cruel_a or_o man_n be_v blind_a though_o these_o say_n be_v deliver_v in_o affirmative_a term_n and_o false_a yet_o they_o be_v in_o sense_n and_o understanding_n mere_o negative_a since_o cruelty_n be_v exclusive_a to_o mercy_n and_o blindness_n to_o sight_n so_o on_o the_o contrary_a to_o say_v god_n be_v not_o cruel_a and_o man_n be_v not_o blind_a though_o they_o be_v in_o term_n negative_a &_o true_a yet_o they_o be_v in_o sense_n affirmative_a only_o as_o deny_v the_o negation_n of_o mercy_n in_o god_n and_o of_o blindness_n in_o man._n animadversion_n lxxxxvii_n our_o adversary_n can_v agree_v among_o themselves_o what_o doctrine_n be_v protestancy_n and_o who_o ought_v to_o be_v true_o term_v protestant_n can_v their_o religion_n then_o be_v true_a and_o descend_v from_o heaven_n here_o than_o i_o will_v first_o show_v within_o what_o narrow_a limit_n our_o adversary_n do_v confine_v protestancy_n and_o the_o member_n of_o the_o protestant_a church_n next_o than_o i_o will_v discover_v such_o be_v the_o fluctuate_a and_o waver_a judgement_n of_o they_o herein_o how_o 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schism_n from_o th●_n body_n of_o christ_n be_v subject_a to_o eternal_a
5._o with_o we_o touch_v patronage_n and_o intercession_n of_o angel_n that_o therefore_o d._n whitaker_n do_v according_o confess_v and_o say_v thereof_o jllum_fw-la 15._o jllum_fw-la whitak_n in_o respon_n ad_fw-la rat_n camp_n rat_n 1._o p._n 15._o verò_fw-la tobiae_fw-la raphaelem_fw-la etc._n etc._n little_o do_v we_o regard_v the_o example_n of_o raphaell_n the_o angel_n mention_v in_o toby_n etc._n etc._n all_o this_o be_v different_a from_o the_o canonical_a scripture_n etc._n etc._n concern_v the_o force_n of_o merit_n of_o alm_n and_o other_o good_a work_n proceed_v from_o true_a faith_n in_o the_o messiah_n the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o ancient_a jews_n be_v deliver_v in_o the_o book_n of_o toby●_n alm_n 1●_n alm_n tob._n 1●_n do_v deliver_v from_o death_n and_o do_v purge_v all_o sin_n and_o in_o the_o foresay_a book_n of_o ecclesiasticus_fw-la as_o water_n 3._o water_n eccles_n 3._o quence_v burn_a fire_n so_o alm_n expiate_v sin_n touch_v unwritten_a tradition_n 2._o tradition_n orig._n hom_n 5._o in_o numer_n hilar._n in_o psalm_n 2._o origen_n and_o hilary_n do_v affirm_v that_o moses_n do_v leave_v many_o thing_n unwritten_a the_o knowledge_n whereof_o be_v continue_v by_o tradition_n and_o rabbi_n judas_n affirm_v the_o same_o of_o moses_n a_o thing_n so_o evident_a that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o jew_n be_v confess_v by_o patrum_fw-la by_o write_v upon_o the_o book_n in_o capitulis_fw-la patrum_fw-la paulus_n phagius_n the_o protestant_n that_o monastical_a life_n be_v not_o altogether_o want_v but_o in_o some_o sort_n profess_v among_o the_o ancient_a jew_n be_v witness_v by_o josephus_n thus_o write_v the_o ●_o the_o joseph_n antiquita●um_fw-la judaicarum_fw-la l._n 18._o c._n ●_o righteousness_n of_o the_o essenes_n be_v marvellous_a etc._n etc._n they_o enjoy_v their_o riches_n in_o common_a etc._n etc._n and_o in_o this_o course_n above_o four_o thousand_o man_n do_v live_v have_v neither_o wife_n nor_o servant_n etc._n etc._n and_o in_o another_o place_n trial_o 7._o trial_o joseph_n l._n de_fw-fr bello_fw-la judaito_fw-la l._n 2._o cap._n 7._o be_v have_v of_o a_o man_n continency_n and_o his_o other_o manner_n be_v for_o two_o year_n try_v and_o then_o he_o be_v take_v into_o the_o company_n last_o to_o omit_v for_o great_a brevity_n the_o doctrine_n of_o vow_n the_o doctrine_n of_o one_o visible_a high_a priest_n head_n of_o the_o church_n in_o those_o jewish_a time_n the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o jew_n in_o remit_v the_o end_n of_o controversye_n not_o to_o the_o scripture_n but_o to_o a_o certain_a visible_a and_o lively_a judge_n the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o jew_n concern_v confession_n of_o sin_n all_o these_o be_v relate_v by_o 3._o by_o gala._n in_o areanis_fw-la cathol_n veritatis_fw-la l._n 10_o v._n 3._o galatinus_n i_o will_v close_v this_o passage_n with_o melchisedech_n his_o offering_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n in_o sacrifice_n and_o the_o prefiguration_n thereby_o of_o our_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n of_o this_o point_n rabbi_n phinees_n thus_o say_v in_o numer_n in_o phinees_n in_o cap._n 28._o numer_n the_o time_n of_o the_o messiah_n all_o sacrifice_n shall_v cease_v but_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n shall_v not_o cease_v etc._n etc._n as_o it_o be_v say_v psalm_n 100_o thou_o be_v a_o priest_n for_o ever_o according_a to_o the_o order_n of_o melchisedech_n rabbi_n gen._n rabbi_n hasardan_n in_o bereschit_n rabbi_n ad_fw-la cap._n 14._o gen._n hasardan_n &_o rabbi_n genes_n rabbi_n samuel_n in_o bereschit_n rabbi_n ad_fw-la cap._n 14._o genes_n samuel_n say_v the_o like_a of_o melchisedech_n his_o offer_v up_o of_o bread_n and_o wine_n in_o figure_n of_o the_o sacrifice_n now_o in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n a_o point_n so_o evident_a that_o 89._o that_o bibliander_n de_fw-fr ss_z trinitote_fw-la l._n 2._o pag._n 89._o bibliander_n the_o remarkable_a protestant_n do_v not_o doubt_v to_o confess_v the_o same_o of_o the_o old_a jewish_a rabin_n thus_o far_o of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o ancient_a jew_n before_o christ_n his_o incarnation_n which_o doctrine_n we_o catholik_o at_o this_o day_n hold_v all_o which_o doctrine_n be_v mere_o dogmatic_a point_n without_o any_o type_n or_o reference_n to_o christ_n his_o come_n that_o only_o of_o melchisedech_n except_v and_o therefore_o it_o can_v be_v answer_v that_o the_o say_v doctrine_n shall_v now_o cease_v upon_o our_o saviour_n come_v in_o flesh_n into_o the_o world_n as_o some_o ignorant_a man_n will_v suggest_v but_o it_o must_v needs_o be_v that_o the_o say_v doctrine_n if_o they_o be_v true_a than_o they_o must_v be_v also_o true_a now_o by_o which_o so_o many_o foresay_a example_n of_o our_o catholic_a faith_n thus_o affirm_v by_o the_o ancient_a jew_n it_o be_v make_v most_o certain_a that_o our_o religion_n ●s_v not_o new_a or_o late_o invent_v but_o most_o ancient_a and_o undoubted_o apostolic_a animadversion_n lxxxxix_n it_o be_v a_o most_o impudent_a assertion_n of_o d._n field_n who_o thus_o write_v we_o 76._o we_o d._n f●●ld_a in_o his_o book_n of_o the_o church_n l._n 3._o c_o 8._o p._n 76._o firm_o believe_v that_o all_o the_o church_n of_o the_o world_n wherein_o our_o father_n live_v and_o dye_v to_o have_v be_v the_o true_a protestant_n churches_n of_o god_n etc._n etc._n and_o that_o they_o which_o teach_v embrace_a and_o believe_v those_o damnable_a error_n which_o the_o romanist_n do_v defend_v against_o we_o be_v only_o a_o faction_n but_o see_v now_o this_o most_o vast_a lie_n be_v control_v first_o then_o d._n jewel_n thus_o acknowledge_v the_o 4._o the_o jewel_n in_o his_o apology_n of_o the_o church_n part_n 4._o c._n 4._o truth_n be_v unknown_a at_o that_o time_n and_o unheard_a of_o when_o martin_n luther_n and_o hulderick_n swinglius_n first_o come_v unto_o the_o knowledge_n and_o preach_v of_o the_o gospel_n and_o therefore_o hereford_n therefore_o bu●ter_n in_o ep._n anno_fw-la 36._o ad_fw-la episc_n hereford_n bucer_n style_v luther_n the_o first_o apostle_n to_o we_o of_o the_o reform_a doctrine_n and_o schlusselburg_n the_o great_a protestant_n thus_o conte_v the_o same_o it_o 130._o it_o in_o theolog._n calu._n l._n 2._o fol._n 130._o be_v impudence_n to_o affirm_v that_o many_o lean_v man_n in_o germany_n before_o luther_n do_v hold_v t●●_n doctrine_n of_o the_o gospel_n yea_o luther_n himself_o thus_o vaunt_v of_o himself_o christum_fw-la argentinens_fw-la christum_fw-la luther_n ep._n ad_fw-la argentinens_fw-la à_fw-la nobis_fw-la primo_fw-la vulgatum_fw-la audemus_fw-la gloriari_fw-la and_o true_o the_o force_n of_o reason_n assure_v we_o that_o there_o be_v no_o protestant_n at_o or_o immediate_o before_o the_o break_n out_o of_o luther_n for_o if_o any_o be_v why_o do_v they_o lie_v hide_v and_o unknown_a at_o luther_n rise_n no_o other_o pretext_n can_v be_v allege_v but_o fear_v of_o persecution_n but_o this_o can_v be_v allege_v for_o the_o protestant_n if_o any_o than_o be_v may_v secure_o step_v out_o and_o join_v themselves_o with_o luther_n consider_v that_o then_o diverse_a magistrate_n and_o commonwealth_n have_v open_o undertake_v the_o patronage_n of_o luther_n doctrine_n and_o religion_n animadversion_n c._n in_o all_o point_n of_o faith_n the_o authority_n of_o the_o private_a spirit_n be_v to_o be_v contemn_v as_o beget_v nothing_o but_o noveltye_n and_o innovation_n and_o let_v each_o good_a catholic_a anchor_n his_o judgement_n upon_o the_o authority_n of_o christ_n visible_a church_n and_o the_o chief_a head_n thereof_o assure_v himself_o that_o although_o simon_n the_o fisher_n be_v not_o able_a to_o determine_v matter_n of_o faith_n yet_o that_o simon_n peter_n and_o his_o successor_n assist_v with_o competency_n of_o mean_n have_v ever_o a_o impeacheable_a sovereignty_n grant_v to_o they_o and_o a_o delegated_a authority_n from_o christ_n himself_o for_o the_o absolute_a discuss_n and_o decide_v of_o all_o controversye_n in_o religion_n tu_fw-la 16._o tu_fw-la math._n 16._o es_fw-la petrus_n &_o super_fw-la hanc_fw-la petram_fw-la aedificabo_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la meam_fw-la &_o porte_fw-fr jnferi_fw-la non_fw-la praevalabunt_fw-la adversus_fw-la eum_fw-la and_o true_o if_o the_o visible_a church_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o supreme_a judge_n thereof_o can_v err_v in_o matter_n of_o faith_n how_o can_v god_n be_v excuse_v from_o cruelty_n by_o threaten_v to_o all_o man_n eternal_a perdition_n if_o we_o be_v not_o obedient_a to_o the_o church_n of_o god_n dic_fw-la 18._o dic_fw-la math_n 18._o ecclesiae_fw-la &_o si_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la non_fw-la audierit_fw-la sit_fw-la sicut_fw-la ethnicus_fw-la &_o publicanus_fw-la furthermore_o as_o the_o apostle_n say_v 8._o say_v hebr._n 8._o our_o testament_n be_v establish_v in_o better_a promise_n etc._n etc._n meaning_n then_o the_o testament_n of_o the_o jew_n but_o if_o it_o be_v say_v in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o old_a law_n that_o he_o who_o 17._o who_o deuteron_fw-gr 17._o presumptuous_o refuse_v to_o obey_v the_o commandment_n of_o
the_o pry_a that_o by_o decree_n of_o the_o judge_n that_o man_n shall_v die_v what_o punishment_n they_o be_v he_o to_o undergo_v who_o in_o matter_n of_o faith_n and_o religion_n contemn_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o high_a prye_v of_o christ_n his_o church_n advance_v his_o own_o private_a judgement_n above_o the_o say_a authority_n animadversion_n ci._n it_o be_v most_o certain_a that_o luther_n himself_o be_v not_o a_o perfect_a and_o entire_a protestant_n such_o i_o mean_v as_o the_o present_a church_n of_o england_n acknowledge_v for_o a_o true_a protestant_n my_o reason_n be_v these_o first_o because_o luther_n after_o his_o rise_n and_o ever_o unto_o his_o death_n retain_v and_o believe_v diverse_a of_o our_o catholic_a doctrine_n disclaim_v from_o by_o the_o protestant_n of_o england_n second_o because_o luther_n teach_v and_o maintain_v several_a heresy_n i_o mean_v heresy_n even_o in_o the_o iudgme●●_n of_o our_o now_o protestant_n to_o begin_v with_o the_o first_o branch_n luther_n ever_o maintain_v to_o h●s_n death_n the_o real_a presence_n as_o the_o whole_a wor●●_n know_v and_o therefore_o his_o follower_n in_o th●●_n doctrine_n be_v call_v for_o distinction_n lake_n lutheran_n by_o swinglius_n and_o caluin_n luther_n teach_v the_o doctrine_n of_o 30._o of_o luther_n l._n de_fw-fr assertionibus_fw-la art_n 30._o evangelicall_a counsel_n to_o wit_n that_o a_o man_n may_v do_v more_o then_o that_o he_o be_v command_v luther_n teach_v the_o doctrine_n of_o purgatory_n of_o which_o point_n see_v tom._n 1._o wittenberg_n 〈◊〉_d jndulgentijs_n and_o answerable_o to_o this_o ground_n he_o be_v confess_v by_o cultu_fw-la by_o vrbanus_n regius_n in_o 1_o part_n operum_fw-la formulae_fw-la cautè_fw-la loquendi_fw-la de_fw-fr sanct_a cultu_fw-la vrbanus_n regi●s_n a_o protestant_n to_o defend_v prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a luther_n defend_v prayer_n to_o saint_n of_o which_o point_n he_o thus_o write_v de_fw-fr spalat_n de_fw-fr luther_n in_o purgat_fw-la quorundam_fw-la articulorum_fw-la in_o epist_n ad_fw-la gregorium_fw-la spalat_n intercissione_n dinorum_n cum_fw-la tota_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la christiana_n sentio_fw-la &_o iudico_fw-la sanctos_fw-la à_fw-la nobis_fw-la honorandos_fw-la esse_fw-la atque_fw-la indicandos_fw-mi luther_n teach_v and_o approve_v the_o use_n of_o jmage_n as_o be_v witness_v by_o beza_n praef_n beza_n beza_n in_o resp_n ad_fw-la colloq_fw-la montisbelg_n par●_n altera_fw-la in_o praef_n touch_v the_o make_v the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n upon_o our_o forehead_n johannes_n creucli●●_n a_o lutheran_n thus_o write_v cùm_fw-la 118._o cùm_fw-la crevelius_n in_o hi●_n refut_o caeremoni●rum_fw-la missae_fw-la print_v magdeburg_n 163._o pag_n 118._o imus_fw-la cu●●tum_fw-la sine_fw-la surgimus_fw-la è_fw-la lecto_fw-la cruse_n nos_fw-la iuxta_fw-la l●theri_fw-la &_o altorum_fw-la piorum_fw-la institutionc●●_n signamus_fw-la final_o to_o omit_v some_o other_o point_n wherein_o luther_n never_o dissent_v from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n luther_n ever_o mantain_v that_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n be_v monarchiall_a &_o neither_o aristocratical_a nor_o popular_a as_o appear_v out_o of_o his_o own_o 107._o own_o vide_fw-la luther_n in_o loc_n com._n class_n 1._o c._n 3._o 7._o pag._n 107._o word_n now_o to_o come_v to_o relate_v luther_n heresy_n and_o such_o as_o be_v repute_v for_o heresy_n and_o some_o of_o they_o for_o blasphemy_n both_o by_o catholics_n and_o protestant_n which_o he_o ever_o maintain_v without_o any_o after_o retraction_n i_o first_o allege_v his_o impious_a doctrine_n touch_v the_o most_o bless_a trinity_n concern_v which_o he_o thus_o speak_v 474._o speak_v so_o relate_v swinglius_n of_o luther_n so_o speak_v to_o 2._o ad_fw-la respon_n &_o confut_o luther_n fol._n 474._o the_o divinity_n be_v threefold_a as_o the_o three_o person_n be_v etc._n etc._n and_o according_a to_o this_o he_o expunge_v out_o of_o the_o litany_n this_o sentence_n holy_a 1543._o holy_a luth._o in_o euchir_n precum_fw-la anno_fw-la 1543._o trinity_n one_o very_a god_n have_v mercy_n upon_o we_o and_o he_o further_o say_v anima_fw-la 1551._o anima_fw-la luth_n contra_fw-la jacobum_fw-la laetomum_fw-la tom_n 1._o wittemberg_fw-mi latinê_fw-la edit_fw-la anno_o 1551._o mea_fw-la odit_fw-la homoousion_n or_o consubstantialis_fw-la brief_o luther_n blasphemy_n be_v so_o odious_a &_o execrable_a against_o the_o b._n trinity_n that_o swinglius_n lutheri_fw-la swinglius_n swinglius_n tom_fw-mi 2._o in_o respon_n ad_fw-la confutat_fw-la lutheri_fw-la do_v purposely_o write_v against_o luther_n touch_v this_o very_a point_n touch_v the_o event_n of_o thing_n luther_n hold_v contrary_a to_o all_o christian_a faith_n that_o all_o thing_n come_v to_o pass_v through_o a_o certain_a stoical_a and_o fatal_a necessity_n thus_o write_v hereof_o nullius_fw-la 30._o nullius_fw-la luther_n in_o assert_v damnat_fw-la per_fw-la leonem_fw-la decimum_fw-la art_n 30._o est_fw-la in_o manu_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o be_v in_o no_o man_n power_n to_o think_v good_a or_o evil_a but_o all_o thing_n as_o wicleffs_n article_n condemn_v at_o constance_n do_v right_o teach_v proceed_v from_o absolute_a necessity_n luther_n teach_v a_o heresy_n whereby_o the_o propagation_n of_o christian_a religion_n be_v much_o hinder_v to_o wit_n that_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o wage_v war_n against_o the_o turk_n his_o word_n be_v praeliari_fw-la 34._o praeliari_fw-la luth_n in_o tom_n 2._o wittenberg_n &_o in_o assert_v damnat_fw-la per_fw-la leonem_fw-la decimum_fw-la assert_v 34._o contra_fw-la turcas_fw-la est_fw-la repugnare_fw-la deo_fw-la visitanti_fw-la iniquitates_fw-la nostras_fw-la per_fw-la illos_fw-la luther_n deny_v all_o temporal_a magistrate_n thus_o teach_v hereof_o among_o germ._n among_o luther_n de_fw-fr saeculari_fw-la potestate_fw-la in_o ●●_o 6_o germ._n christian_n no_o man_n can_v or_o aught_o to_o be_v a_o magistrate_n but_o every_o one_o be_v to_o another_o equal_o subject_a touch_v faith_n and_o good_a work_n luther_n thus_o endoctrinate_v his_o follower_n fides_n 3._o fides_n luther_n to_o 1_o propos_fw-fr 3._o nisi_fw-la sit_fw-la sine_fw-la etc._n etc._n except_o faith_n be_v without_o good_a work_n it_o do_v not_o justify_v nay_o it_o be_v not_o faith_n and_o further_o no_o ●76_n no_o luther_n in_o his_o sermon_n english_v pag_n ●76_n work_n be_v disalow_v by_o god_n except_o the_o author_n thereof_o be_v disalow_v before_o luther_n further_o teach_v as_o d._n covell_n witness_v that_o 101._o that_o these_o be_v d._n covells_n word_n in_o defence_n of_o m._n hooker_n art_n 15._o p._n 101._o the_o sacrament_n be_v effectual_a though_o they_o be_v administer_v by_o satan_n himself_o of_o which_o point_n hospinian_n the_o protestant_n thus_o also_o write_v lutherus_n 14._o lutherus_n in_o hist_o sacr._n part_n altera_fw-la fol._n 14._o co●sque_fw-la progreditur_fw-la etc._n etc._n luther_n proceed_v so_o far_o herein_o that_o he_o maintain_v the_o sacrament_n to_o be_v a_o true_a sacrament_n etiamsi_fw-la è_fw-it diabolo_fw-it conficeretur_fw-la though_o it_o be_v to_o be_v consecrate_v by_o the_o devil_n to_o conclude_v luther_n so_o disualewed_a the_o sufficiency_n of_o christ_n suffer_v in_o body_n for_o we_o as_o that_o he_o most_o blasphemous_o teach_v that_o christ_n do_v not_o suffer_v only_o in_o body_n but_o also_o his_o divinity_n suffer_v for_o we_o his_o word_n hereof_o be_v these_o cùm_fw-la domini_fw-la cùm_fw-la luther_n in_o confess_v maiore_fw-la in_o caena_n domini_fw-la credo_fw-la quod_fw-la sola_fw-la humana_fw-la natura_fw-la pro_fw-la i_o passa_fw-la est_fw-la christus_fw-la vilis_fw-la nec_fw-la magni_fw-la praetij_fw-la saluator_fw-la est_fw-la etc._n etc._n if_o i_o believe_v that_o only_o the_o humane_a nature_n suffer_v for_o i_o than_o be_v christ_n a_o saviour_n but_o of_o a_o base_a &_o small_a worth_n and_o himself_o need_v a_o saviour_n thus_o far_o now_o in_o demonstration_n that_o luther_n be_v not_o a_o entire_a protestant_n and_o such_o as_o be_v allow_v by_o the_o present_a church_n of_o england_n animadversion_n cii_o two_o thing_n among_o other_o concur_v as_o be_v in_o this_o last_o animadversion_n exemplify_v in_o luther_n to_o make_v a_o perfect_a protestant_n to_o wit_n that_o he_o do_v maintain_v all_o chief_a point_n of_o protestancy_n thus_o he_o be_v not_o to_o hold_v only_o some_o few_o point_n of_o prorestancy_n and_o in_o the_o rest_n be_v more_o in_o number_n and_o of_o great_a importance_n to_o partake_v with_o the_o catholic_n the_o second_o thing_n necessary_a to_o a_o protestant_n that_o he_o do_v not_o hold_v pertinacious_o any_o main_n heresy_n or_o paradox_n whole_o impugn_a and_o contradict_v both_o by_o catholics_n and_o protestant_n for_o this_o man_n in_o this_o respect_n be_v rather_o to_o be_v style_v a_o open_a heretic_n than_o a_o protestant_n even_o in_o the_o censure_n of_o the_o protestant_n themselves_o here_o now_o i_o 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body_n and_o that_o christ_n be_v true_a man._n thus_o far_o osiander_n of_o the_o albigenses_n in_o the_o place_n cite_v in_o the_o margin_n i_o will_v conclude_v with_o berengarius_fw-la who_o live_v anno_o 1051._o who_o be_v challenge_v for_o a_o 23._o a_o act._n mon._n pa._n 23._o protestant_n for_o his_o denial_n of_o transubstantiation_n though_o he_o after_o recant_v this_o his_o heresy_n now_o berengarius_fw-la do_v hold_v diverse_a heresye_n so_o as_o the_o protestant_a o●eolampadius_n 710._o o●eolampadius_n in_o oecolam_n &_o swinglij_fw-la epistolis_fw-la l._n 3._o pag._n 710._o thus_o write_v of_o he_o berengarius_fw-la nonnulla_fw-la affirmat_fw-la adversus_fw-la baptismum_fw-la parnulorum_fw-la &_o coniugium_fw-la again_o damnata_fw-la est_fw-la berengarij_fw-la opinio_fw-la sacerdotio_fw-la christiano_n parum_fw-la nimis_fw-la tribuen●_n thus_o far_o of_o all_o these_o former_a heretic_n to_o wit_n hus_n wicleff_n waldo_n and_o the_o rest_n whereby_o the_o indifferent_a 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that_o most_o of_o the_o chief_a controversy_n between_o we_o and_o they_o shall_v be_v but_o point_n of_o jndifferency_n and_o the_o contrary_n hold_v they_o off_o either_o side_n shall_v not_o be_v prejudicial_a to_o man_n salvation_n which_o course_n be_v indeed_o to_o introduce_v a_o neutrality_n of_o religion_n or_o rather_o a_o contempt_n of_o all_o religion_n i_o will_v exemplify_v in_o diverse_a particular_n and_o 1_o first_o concern_v satisfaction_n and_o merit_n of_o work_n d._n whitaker_n thus_o write_v the_o 135._o the_o whitak_n contra_fw-la rat._n camp_n p._n 78._o and_o in_o his_o answer_n to_o m._n william_n reynolds_n cap._n 6._o pag._n 135._o ancient_a father_n thought_n by_o their_o external_a discipline_n of_o life_n to_o pay_v the_o pain_n due_a for_o sin_n etc._n etc._n which_o though_o it_o be_v a_o error_n yet_o be_v they_o notwithstanding_o good_a man_n and_o holy_a father_n therefore_o i_o conclude_v their_o belief_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o say_a point_n be_v no_o hindrance_n to_o their_o salvation_n 2._o touch_v the_o pope_n primacy_n thus_o favourable_o melancthon_n write_v thereof_o the_o 74_o the_o in_o his_o ep_a extant_a in_o the_o book_n entitle_v centuria_fw-la epistol_n theolog._n epist_n 74_o monarchy_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v profitable_a to_o this_o end_n that_o consent_n 〈◊〉_d be_v retain_v wherefore_o a_o agreement_n may_v easy_o be_v establish_v in_o this_o article_n of_o the_o pope_n primacy_n if_o other_o article_n can_v be_v agree_v upon_o touch_v our_o lady_n be_v preserve_v fro●_n original_a sin_n and_o worship_v of_o jmage●_n m._n bunny_n thus_o write_v in_o these_o 104._o these_o bunny_n in_o his_o pacification_n sect_n 17._o pag._n 104._o or_o su●●_n like_o whosoever_o will_v condemn_v all_o those_o to_o be_v no●_n of_o the_o church_n that_o be_v not_o full_o persuade_v therein_o as_o we_o be_v etc._n etc._n commit_v a_o uncharitab●●_n part_n towards_o his_o brethren_n 4._o concern_v receive_n under_o one_o or_o both_o kind_n luther_n thus_o teach_v si_fw-la sacramenti_fw-la si_fw-la luth._o de_fw-la utraque_fw-la specie_fw-la sacramenti_fw-la veneris_fw-la ad_fw-la locum_fw-la ubi_fw-la tantu●_fw-la una_fw-la species_n ministratur_fw-la cum_fw-la alijs_fw-la una_fw-la tantu●_fw-la specie_fw-la vtere_fw-la etc._n etc._n 5._o concern_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o real_a presence_n d._n reynolds_n say_v the_o 722._o the_o reynolds_n in_o his_o five_o conclusion_n annex_v to_o his_o conference_n pag._n 722._o doctrine_n of_o the_o real_a presence_n be_v but_o as_o it_o be_v the_o grudge_n of_o a_o little_a ague_n if_o otherwise_o the_o party_n hold_v the_o christian_a faith_n 6._o of_o invocation_n of_o saint_n d._n goad_n 111._o goad_n in_o their_o disputation_n have_v in_o the_o tower_n wi●h_v f._n campian_n the_o 1._o day_n conference_n arg._n 8._o rat._n 11._o &_o 111._o &_o d._n fulke_o affirm_v that_o it_o do_v not_o exclude_v from_o be_v member_n of_o the_o church_n 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this_o it_o seem_v say_v they_o impossible_a that_o unwritten_a tradition_n can_v be_v keep_v and_o conserve_v since_o there_o be_v diverse_a hindrance_n thereof_o as_o forgetfulness_n ignorance_n negligence_n perverseness_n of_o man_n nature_n and_o the_o like_a and_o hence_o it_o be_v that_o we_o see_v that_o such_o sentence_n which_o lycurgus_n pythagoras_n and_o other_o deliver_v only_o in_o word_n and_o not_o in_o write_v be_v at_o this_o day_n lose_v and_o perish_v to_o this_o i_o answer_v that_o i_o hold_v it_o impossible_a that_o apostolical_a tradition_n shall_v not_o be_v preserve_v since_o this_o care_n be_v not_o proper_o incumbent_a upon_o man_n but_o upon_o god_n who_o govern_v the_o church_n now_o besides_o the_o providence_n of_o god_n which_o be_v the_o chief_a cause_n of_o preserve_v the_o tradition_n of_o the_o church_n there_o be_v four_o other_o inferior_a or_o subordinate_a cause_n for_o their_o preservation_n the_o first_o be_v the_o commit_n of_o tradition_n to_o write_v for_o although_o they_o be_v not_o set_v down_o in_o holy_a writ_n i_o mean_v in_o the_o