chillingworth_n safe_a way_n p._n 180._o when_o we_o shall_v come_v tio_fw-la the_o question_n of_o schism_n i_o persuade_v myself_o that_o i_o shall_v plain_o show_v that_o the_o most_o vehement_a accuser_n be_v the_o great_a offender_n and_o that_o they_o be_v indeed_o at_o this_o time_n the_o great_a schismatic_n who_o make_v the_o way_n to_o salvation_n narrow_a the_o yoke_n of_o christ_n heavy_a the_o difference_n of_o faith_n great_a the_o condition_n of_o ecclesiastical_a government_n hard_o and_o strait_o than_o they_o be_v make_v at_o the_o begin_n by_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n they_o who_o talk_v of_o unity_n but_o aim_v at_o tyranny_n and_o will_v have_v peace_n with_o none_o but_o with_o their_o slave_n and_o vassal_n dr._n stillingfleet_n iren._n p._n 110._o let_v man_n turn_v and_o wind_n themselves_o which_o way_n they_o will_v by_o the_o very_a same_o argument_n that_o any_o will_v prove_v separation_n from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n lawful_a because_o she_o 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that_o we_o may_v know_v what_o he_o will_v have_v expunge_v or_o which_o will_v have_v be_v most_o satisfactory_a and_o not_o unreasonable_a his_o publish_n a_o book_n of_o retractation_n show_v in_o what_o particular_n and_o upon_o what_o ground_n and_o reason_n his_o mind_n be_v since_o change_v upon_o the_o perusal_n of_o this_o voluminous_a write_n of_o his_o which_o must_v pass_v for_o a_o confutation_n of_o his_o five_o answerer_n i_o can_v find_v so_o little_a or_o nothing_o say_v to_o i_o that_o be_v it_o not_o for_o three_o conclusion_n he_o lay_v down_o in_o his_o preface_n p._n 72_o 73._o and_o three_o letter_n which_o for_o my_o sake_n upon_o account_n of_o what_o i_o have_v say_v as_o it_o seem_v preface_n pag._n 76._o he_o annex_v as_o a_o appendix_n at_o the_o end_n of_o his_o book_n i_o shall_v not_o have_v think_v myself_o concern_v to_o make_v any_o reply_n i_o can_v find_v that_o ever_o he_o vouchsafe_v to_o take_v notice_n of_o so_o much_o as_o one_o of_o my_o twelve_o query_n which_o though_o i_o remember_v they_o be_v write_v in_o great_a haste_n yet_o some_o of_o they_o i_o think_v be_v pinch_v my_o first_o query_n to_o name_n no_o more_o wise_a impartial_a man_n think_v it_o will_v have_v be_v a_o act_n of_o justice_n and_o honesty_n as_o well_o as_o of_o charity_n ingenuity_n self-denial_n for_o he_o to_o have_v well_o consider_v and_o to_o have_v give_v a_o serious_a and_o satisfactory_a answer_n unto_o how_o know_v he_o but_o some_o yea_o many_o may_v have_v that_o to_o say_v to_o he_o si_fw-mi error_n est_fw-la quod_fw-la credo_fw-la a_o te_fw-la deceptus_fw-la sum_fw-la if_o i_o be_v in_o a_o error_n you_o have_v lead_v i_o into_o it_o or_o have_v help_v to_o conhrm_v i_o in_o it_o i_o think_v i_o have_v demonstrate_v to_o the_o doctor_n that_o he_o be_v beside_o his_o text_n that_o the_o word_n the_o scripture-rule_n be_v that_o same_o rule_v the_o apostle_n will_v have_v christian_n walk_n by_o phil_n 3._o 16._o and_o that_o the_o establish_v rule_n the_o doctor_n will_v have_v it_o apply_v to_o be_v such_o a_o rule_n as_o he_o himself_o have_v tell_v the_o world_n the_o apostle_n and_o primo-primitive_a christian_n have_v not_o and_o if_o they_o have_v no_o such_o rule_n nor_o will_v ever_o have_v establish_v such_o a_o rule_n than_o it_o certain_o follow_v the_o apostle_n shall_v not_o be_v suppose_v there_o to_o press_v chriâ—ians_n to_o walk_v by_o such_o a_o rule_n which_o be_v no_o rule_n with_o he_o viz._n rector_n of_o sutton_n p._n 10_o 11_o 17_o f._n 18._o yet_o i_o observe_v where_o he_o pretend_v to_o lear_a the_o text_n from_o all_o objection_n pag._n 163_o to_o 176._o he_o say_v not_o one_o word_n to_o this_o material_a objection_n and_o so_o he_o wave_n what_o mr._n baxter_n say_v answer_v pag._n 29._o what_o he_o reply_v to_o other_o i_o suppose_v they_o will_v consider_v here_o i_o conceive_v he_o can_v well_o say_v as_o pag._n 333._o i_o decline_v nothing_o that_o look_v like_o argument_n and_o pag._n 393._o i_o have_v not_o conceal_v the_o force_n and_o strength_n i_o see_v in_o any_o of_o they_o there_o i_o think_v it_o sufficient_a to_o argue_v from_o the_o doctor_n be_v former_a concession_n or_o rather_o his_o plain_a assertion_n take_v the_o matter_n to_o be_v so_o clear_a and_o evident_a that_o no_o sober_a man_n and_o much_o less_o he_o will_v deny_v but_o if_o he_o have_v put_v i_o to_o prove_v that_o the_o apostle_n do_v not_o neither_o will_v ever_o establish_v such_o a_o rule_n nor_o can_v have_v establish_v it_o as_o apostle_n as_o commissionated_a by_o christ_n as_o infallible_a guide_n and_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n i_o shall_v have_v count_v it_o a_o easy_a task_n especial_o when_o he_o have_v do_v it_o so_o well_o to_o my_o hand_n from_o act._n 15._o 28_o etc._n etc._n this_o one_o hint_n may_v suffice_v at_o present_a the_o apostle_n peter_n be_v to_o be_v blame_v for_o that_o by_o his_o example_n only_o he_o will_v have_v draw_v the_o gentile-believer_n at_o antioch_n to_o conformity_n to_o the_o jewish_a ceremony_n gal._n 2._o 11_o 14._o why_o compelle_v thou_o the_o gentile_n to_o live_v as_o do_v the_o jew_n the_o apostle_n paul_n who_o thus_o reprove_v he_o yet_o say_v himself_o 1_o cor._n 9_o 20._o unto_o the_o jew_n i_o become_v as_o a_o jew._n and_o those_o ceremony_n he_o conform_v to_o among_o the_o jew_n as_o at_o jerusalem_n be_v in_o themselves_o as_o lawful_a and_o innocent_a as_o the_o ceremony_n impose_v among_o we_o but_o he_o will_v not_o have_v the_o gentile_n compel_v to_o more_o than_o be_v necessary_a he_o that_o be_v so_o move_v and_o offend_v to_o see_v but_o a_o example_n lead_v that_o way_n how_o much_o more_o will_v he_o have_v withstand_v any_o one_o or_o more_o that_o be_v for_o establish_v such_o a_o rule_n yet_o the_o doctor_n tell_v we_o he_o be_v certain_a he_o do_v not_o mistake_v the_o sense_n of_o his_o text_n preface_n pag._n 63._o but_o let_v such_o thing_n pass_v as_o the_o doctor_n have_v please_v to_o do_v and_o if_o he_o have_v let_v all_o pass_n that_o have_v be_v say_v that_o the_o controversy_n he_o have_v raise_v may_v have_v be_v lay_v asleep_o or_o have_v use_v other_o method_n and_o measure_n than_o he_o have_v take_v i_o shall_v have_v be_v better_o satisfy_v than_o i_o can_v be_v with_o his_o present_a answer_n i_o be_o sorry_a we_o do_v not_o all_o put_v he_o in_o mind_n of_o that_o praestat_fw-la motos_fw-la componere_fw-la fluctus_fw-la however_o sir_n i_o must_v acknowledge_v your_o kindness_n in_o send_v i_o this_o impartial_a account_n etc._n etc._n as_o it_o be_v call_v and_o that_o you_o have_v since_o furnish_v i_o with_o his_o rational_a account_n also_o wherein_o you_o have_v great_o pleasure_v i_o many_o year_n since_o i_o look_v into_o it_o
though_o magistrate_n may_v regulate_v we_o in_o the_o circumstance_n of_o those_o duty_n which_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n or_o gospel_n do_v command_v yet_o if_o on_o such_o pretence_n they_o violate_v or_o contradict_v either_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n or_o the_o gospel_n and_o dedstroy_v the_o duty_n itself_o or_o its_o end_n whether_o we_o be_v bind_v in_o such_o case_n to_o obey_v they_o or_o whether_o it_o be_v not_o enough_o that_o we_o patient_o suffer_v first_o plea_n for_o p._n p._n 104._o q._n 6._o whether_o the_o king_n of_o israel_n have_v power_n to_o forbid_v the_o priest_n exercise_v their_o office_n according_a to_o god_n law_n or_o whether_o they_o can_v change_v or_o abrogate_v their_o office_n ibid._n p._n 20._o of_o solomon_n put_v out_o abiathar_n see_v p._n 21._o whether_o may_v they_o then_o have_v put_v out_o a_o lawful_a priest_n that_o have_v not_o forfeit_v his_o life_n or_o office_n or_o may_v they_o have_v put_v any_o one_o in_o his_o place_n that_o have_v not_o right_o from_o god_n or_o that_o be_v unqualify_v or_o may_v they_o have_v forbid_v the_o priest_n the_o work_v appoint_v they_o by_o god_n ibid._n p._n 22._o q._n 7._o whether_o such_o as_o christ_n law_n empower_v to_o ordain_v other_o to_o the_o work_n of_o the_o ministry_n have_v power_n from_o christ_n to_o hinder_v the_o ordination_n of_o such_o as_o christ_n law_n admit_v into_o the_o ministry_n ibid._n p._n 25._o q._n 8._o whether_o the_o magistrate_n beside_o the_o power_n of_o the_o temple_n and_o tithe_n and_o public_a maintenance_n and_o liberty_n also_o have_v the_o power_n of_o ordination_n or_o degradation_n that_o no_o man_n may_v be_v a_o true_a minister_n without_o or_o contrary_a to_o his_o consent_n sacrileg_n desert_n p._n 11._o whether_o be_v not_o many_o of_o the_o nonconformist's_a true_a pastor_n of_o their_o several_a flock_n before_o they_o be_v silence_v and_o cast_v out_o ibid._n and_o whether_o do_v the_o eject_v they_o from_o the_o temple_n and_o tithe_n degrade_v they_o or_o make_v they_o no_o pastor_n to_o their_o flock_n though_o prudence_n may_v require_v minister_n and_o people_n to_o consent_v to_o a_o dissolution_n of_o such_o a_o relation_n when_o they_o can_v hold_v it_o without_o great_a hurt_n than_o benefit_n ibid._n q._n 9_o though_o prince_n or_o patron_n may_v 1._o offer_v meet_a pastor_n to_o the_o ordainer_n and_o consenter_n to_o be_v accept_v when_o there_o be_v just_a cause_n for_o their_o interposition_n 2._o and_o may_v hinder_v both_o ordainer_n and_o people_n from_o introduce_v intolerable_a men._n 3._o and_o when_o a_o people_n ignorance_n wilfulness_n faction_n or_o division_n make_v they_o refuse_v all_o that_o be_v true_o fit_a for_o they_o may_v urge_v they_o to_o accept_v the_o best_a and_o may_v possess_v such_o of_o the_o temple_n and_o public_a maintenance_n and_o make_v it_o consequent_o to_o become_v the_o people_n duty_n to_o consent_n yet_o whether_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n have_v not_o settle_v the_o right_n of_o ordination_n on_o the_o senior_a pastor_n or_o bishop_n and_o the_o right_n of_o consent_v in_o the_o people_n first_o plea_n for_o p._n p._n 33._o and_o whether_o any_o man_n can_v be_v the_o pastor_n of_o a_o church_n de_fw-fr jure_fw-la or_o true_o de_fw-la facto_fw-la against_o the_o church_n or_o people_n will_n or_o without_o their_o consent_n ibid._n p._n 25._o as_o the_o say_v of_o cyprian_a be_v well_o know_v that_o the_o people_n have_v the_o great_a power_n both_o to_o choose_v a_o worthy_a priest_n and_o to_o refuse_v or_o forsake_v the_o unworthy_a ibid._n p._n 77_o and_o when_o in_o england_n it_o belong_v 1._o to_o the_o patron_n to_o present_v 2._o to_o the_o bishop_n to_o ordain_v and_o institute_v and_o therefore_o to_o approve_v and_o invest_v 3._o to_o the_o people_n jure_fw-la divino_fw-la to_o be_v free_a consenter_n 4._o and_o to_o the_o magistrate_n to_o protect_v and_o judge_v who_o shall_v be_v protect_v or_o tolerate_v under_o he_o if_o these_o four_o party_n be_v for_o four_o minister_n or_o for_o three_o or_o two_o several_a man_n and_o can_v agree_v in_o one_o whether_o the_o culpable_a dissenter_n will_v not_o be_v the_o cause_n of_o schism_n ibid._n p._n 50._o q._n 10._o whether_o the_o church_n and_o council_n be_v in_o the_o right_n or_o no_o which_o for_o 700_o yea_o 1000_o year_n hold_v that_o the_o call_n of_o a_o bishop_n be_v null_a that_o have_v not_o the_o clergy_n election_n and_o the_o people_n election_n or_o consent_n and_o if_o usurper_n shall_v thrust_v out_o the_o bishop_n and_o conformist_n and_o make_v themselves_o our_o pastor_n against_o our_o will_n what_o will_v the_o bishop_n think_v of_o such_o will_v they_o hold_v it_o unlawful_a to_o separate_v from_o such_o agree_v with_o they_o in_o doctrine_n and_o worship_n ans._n to_o dr._n still_o serm._n p._n 27._o q._n 11._o if_o a_o lawful_a magistrate_n or_o prince_n put_v in_o place_n of_o pastor_n person_n of_o untried_a and_o suspect_a part_n of_o fidelity_n whether_o will_v his_o imposition_n make_v such_o the_o true_a pastor_n of_o that_o church_n before_o and_o without_o the_o people_n consent_n fiâ—st_v plea_n for_o p._n p._n 55._o if_o so_o then_o whether_o may_v not_o one_o roman_a emperor_n have_v undo_v all_o the_o church_n and_o soul_n in_o the_o empire_n in_o a_o great_a degree_n by_o impose_v on_o they_o insufficient_a heretical_a or_o malignant_a pastor_n ibid._n p._n 56._o if_o people_n be_v as_o much_o under_o prince_n for_o choose_v guide_n for_o their_o soul_n as_o a_o daughter_n in_o her_o father_n house_n be_v under_o her_o father_n for_o the_o choice_n of_o a_o husband_n which_o yet_o we_o have_v not_o see_v prove_v yet_o as_o he_o can_v be_v no_o husband_n to_o she_o without_o her_o consent_n though_o she_o culpable_o deny_v consent_n query_n whether_o it_o be_v not_o so_o here_o that_o they_o can_v be_v no_o pastor_n to_o people_n till_o they_o consent_n way_n of_o concord_n p._n 209._o §_o 18._o but_o whether_o have_v god_n authorize_v the_o magistrate_n to_o choose_v what_o person_n every_o man_n in_o his_o dominion_n shall_v entrust_v his_o soul_n to_o as_o the_o pastor_n who_o conduct_n he_o be_v bind_v in_o conscience_n to_o obey_v ans._n to_o dr._n still_o serm_n p._n 14._o whether_o shall_v the_o people_n have_v any_o judgement_n of_o discern_v or_o not_o if_o yea_o must_v not_o the_o bound_n of_o it_o be_v show_v without_o deny_v the_o thing_n as_o if_o that_o will_v bring_v in_o all_o confusion_n if_o usurper_n claim_v the_o crown_n must_v not_o subject_n judge_v which_o be_v the_o true_a king_n and_o defend_v his_o right_n will_v any_o say_v if_o the_o people_n be_v judge_n they_o may_v set_v up_o usurper_n and_o put_v down_o the_o king_n when_o they_o be_v but_o discerner_n of_o that_o which_o be_v before_o their_o duty_n and_o have_v no_o right_a to_o err_v or_o alter_v the_o law_n and_o right_n can_v any_o dreadful_a consequence_n be_v prove_v to_o follow_v on_o it_o or_o if_o it_o be_v otherwise_o must_v they_o not_o be_v rule_v as_o brute_n and_o so_o must_v not_o â—udg_v so_o much_o as_o who_o they_o be_v to_o obey_v be_v there_o any_o christian_n that_o dare_v say_v that_o bishop_n or_o prince_n be_v in_o all_o thing_n to_o be_v obey_v lest_o the_o people_n be_v make_v judge_n first_o plea_n for_o p._n p._n 70_o 71._o q._n 12._o whether_o the_o ministerial_a office_n be_v take_v up_o upon_o trial_n or_o for_o a_o time_n or_o during_o life_n with_o a_o capacity_n to_o perform_v the_o work_n if_o the_o latter_a be_v grant_v then_o whether_o it_o be_v any_o less_o than_o 1._o horrid_a sacrilege_n 2._o perfidious_n covenant-breaking_a 3._o disobedience_n to_o god_n 4._o cruelty_n to_o soul_n 5._o and_o unthankfulness_n for_o great_a mercy_n if_o any_o of_o we_o shall_v desert_v our_o undertake_a office_n yea_o though_o a_o silence_v diocesan_n shall_v forbid_v we_o the_o exercise_n of_o it_o unjust_o sacrilege_n desert_n p._n 25_o 30._o q._n 13._o if_o ruler_n may_v silence_v the_o faithful_a minister_n of_o christ_n who_o know_v where_o to_o bound_v his_o obedience_n to_o such_o silencer_n if_o a_o 1000_o or_o 2000_o faithful_a minister_n must_v cease_v preach_v when_o so_o forbid_v why_o not_o 3000_o why_o not_o 4000_o if_o half_o a_o kingdom_n can_v you_o satisfy_v the_o conscience_n of_o the_o other_o half_a that_o they_o must_v not_o do_v so_o too_o and_o so_o all_o christian_a kingdom_n conform_v to_o muscovy_n when_o the_o prince_n command_v it_o and_o if_o a_o 1000_o or_o 2000_o or_o 3000_o parish_n must_v choose_v the_o apparent_a hazard_n of_o their_o soul_n and_o refuse_v such_o help_n as_o experience_n certify_v we_o they_o great_o need_v in_o obedience_n to_o man_n why_o must_v not_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o parish_n do_v so_o
whether_o be_v any_o bind_v to_o obey_v they_o at_o least_o when_o they_o over-rule_v christ_n own_o institution_n way_n of_o concord_n p._n 111._o §_o 15._o and_o whether_o to_o devise_v new_a species_n of_o church_n without_o god_n authority_n and_o impose_v they_o on_o the_o world_n in_o his_o name_n and_o call_v all_o dissenter_n schismatic_n be_v not_o a_o far_o worse_a usurpation_n than_o to_o make_v and_o impose_v new_a ceremony_n or_o liturgy_n ibid._n §_o 16._o q._n 74._o whether_o a_o society_n of_o neighbour-christians_a associate_v with_o a_o pastor_n or_o pastor_n for_o personal_a communion_n in_o holy_a doctrine_n discipline_n and_o worship_n be_v not_o a_o church_n form_n of_o divine_a institution_n first_o plea_n etc._n etc._n p._n 8._o and_o whether_o any_o proof_n have_v ever_o be_v produce_v that_o many_o church_n of_o this_o first_o rank_n must_v of_o duty_n make_v one_o fix_v great_a compound_v church_n by_o association_n as_o diocesan_n national_a etc._n etc._n and_o that_o god_n have_v institute_v any_o such_o form_n whether_o the_o great_a defender_n of_o prelacy_n do_v not_o affirm_v such_o to_o be_v but_o humane_a institution_n ib._n p._n 12_o 13._o whether_o ever_o any_o satisfactory_a proof_n have_v be_v bring_v that_o ever_o christ_n or_o his_o apostle_n do_v institute_v any_o particular_a church_n take_v in_o a_o political_a sense_n as_o organise_v and_o not_o mere_o for_o a_o community_n without_o a_o bishop_n or_o pastor_n who_o have_v the_o power_n of_o teach_v they_o rule_v they_o by_o the_o word_n and_o power_n of_o the_o church-key_n and_o lead_v they_o in_o public_a worship_n ibid._n p._n 13._o and_o whether_o have_v it_o yet_o be_v prove_v that_o any_o one_o church_n of_o this_o first_o rank_n which_o be_v not_o a_o association_n of_o church_n consist_v in_o scripture-time_n of_o many_o much_o less_o of_o many_o score_n or_o hundred_o such_o fix_a church_n or_o congregation_n or_o that_o any_o one_o bishop_n of_o the_o first_o rank_n that_o be_v not_o a_o apostle_n or_o bishop_n of_o bishop_n have_v more_o than_o one_o of_o such_o fix_a society_n or_o church_n under_o he_o or_o may_v have_v more_o state_v member_n of_o his_o church_n than_o be_v capable_a of_o personal_a communion_n and_o mutual_a assistance_n at_o due_a season_n in_o holy_a doctrine_n discipline_n and_o worship_n as_o now_o there_o be_v many_o chapel_n in_o some_o parish_n who_o proximity_n and_o relation_n to_o the_o parish-church_n make_v they_o capable_a of_o personal_a communion_n in_o due_a season_n with_o the_o whole_a parish_n at_o lest_o per_fw-la vice_n in_o those_o church_n and_o in_o their_o conversation_n and_o as_o a_o single_a congregation_n may_v prudent_o in_o persecution_n or_o foul_a wether_n meet_v ofttimes_o in_o several_a house_n so_o why_o may_v not_o the_o great_a church_n of_o jerusalem_n which_o yet_o can_v be_v prove_v a_o quarter_n so_o big_a as_o some_o of_o our_o parish_n hold_v their_o public_a meeting_n oft_o at_o the_o same_o time_n in_o divers_a house_n when_o they_o have_v no_o temple_n and_o yet_o be_v capable_a of_o personal_a communion_n as_o before_o describe_v ibid._n p._n 13_o 14._o and_o when_o the_o learned_a dr._n hammond_n on_o 1_o tim._n 3._o say_v the_o church_n of_o the_o live_a god_n be_v every_o such_o regular_a assembly_n of_o christian_n under_o a_o bishop_n such_o as_o timothy_n be_v and_o oeconomus_fw-la set_v over_o they_o by_o christ_n etc._n etc._n do_v he_o not_o here_o suppose_v as_o he_o elsewhere_o show_v that_o the_o facto_fw-la episcopal_a church_n be_v in_o scripture-time_n but_o single_a congregation_n then_o whether_o be_v the_o new_a form_n of_o congregation_n jure_fw-la divino_fw-la when_o they_o become_v but_o part_n of_o a_o bishop_n church_n and_o may_v we_o not_o query_n the_o same_o of_o the_o new_a form_n of_o a_o diocesan_n church_n ibid._n p._n 5_o 6._o and_o do_v not_o ignatius_n express_o make_v one_o altar_n and_o one_o bishop_n with_o presbyter_n and_o deacon_n to_o be_v the_o note_n of_o a_o church_n unity_n and_o individuation_n whence_o learned_a mr._n joseph_n mede_n do_v argue_v it_o as_o certain_z that_o then_o a_o bishop_n church_n be_v no_o other_o than_o such_o as_o usual_o communicate_v in_o one_o place_n ibid._n p._n 17._o and_o see_v answ._n to_o dr._n still_o serm._n p._n 75._o or_o 69._o q._n 75._o and_o see_v it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o god_n have_v institute_v any_o other_o than_o congregational_a or_o parochial_a church_n as_o for_o present_a communion_n whether_o must_v it_o not_o follow_v that_o none_o of_o the_o rest_n institute_v by_o man_n have_v power_n to_o deprive_v such_o single_a church_n of_o any_o of_o the_o privilege_n grant_v they_o by_o christ_n and_o whereas_o christ_n have_v make_v the_o term_n of_o catholic_n communion_n himself_o and_o have_v command_v all_o such_o to_o worship_v he_o public_o in_o holy_a communion_n under_o faithful_a pastor_n choose_v or_o at_o least_o consent_v to_o by_o themselves_o which_o be_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n many_o hundred_o year_n whether_o can_v any_o humane_a order_n or_o power_n deprive_v they_o of_o any_o of_o this_o benefit_n or_o disoblige_v they_o from_o any_o of_o this_o duty_n by_o just_a authority_n way_n of_o concord_n p._n 111._o §_o 13._o q._n 76._o then_o if_o any_o prince_n will_v turn_v his_o kingdom_n or_o a_o whole_a province_n into_o one_o only_a church_n and_o thereby_o overthrow_v all_o the_o first_o order_n of_o church_n of_o christ_n institution_n which_o be_v associate_v for_o personal_a present_a communion_n allow_v they_o no_o pastor_n that_o have_v the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n or_o all_o essential_a to_o their_o office_n though_o he_o shall_v allow_v parochial_a oratory_n or_o chapel_n which_o shall_v be_v no_o true_a church_n but_o part_n of_o a_o church_n whether_o be_v it_o schism_n to_o gather_v church_n within_o such_o a_o church_n against_o the_o law_n of_o such_o a_o prince_n first_o plea_n etc._n etc._n p._n 52._o or_o whether_o have_v god_n make_v such_o proper_a judge_n whether_o christ_n shall_v have_v church_n according_a to_o his_o law_n or_o whether_o god_n shall_v be_v worship_v and_o soul_n save_v or_o his_o own_o institution_n of_o church_n be_v observe_v ibid._n p._n 53._o q._n 77._o and_o if_o any_o person_n shall_v pretend_v to_o have_v the_o power_n of_o govern_v the_o church_n and_o inferior_a pastor_n as_o their_o bishop_n who_o be_v obtrude_v on_o those_o church_n without_o the_o election_n or_o consent_v of_o the_o people_n or_o inferior_a pastor_n and_o these_o bishop_n shall_v by_o law_n or_o mandate_n forbid_v such_o assemble_v preach_a or_o worship_n as_o otherwise_o will_v be_v lawful_a and_o a_o duty_n whether_o be_v it_o schism_n to_o disobey_v such_o law_n or_o mandate_n as_o such_o ibid._n p._n 80._o bishop_n bilson_n of_o subject_a p._n 399._o grant_v the_o election_n of_o bishop_n in_o those_o day_n belong_v to_o the_o people_n and_o not_o to_o the_o prince_n and_o though_o valens_n by_o plain_a force_n place_v lucius_n there_o yet_o may_v the_o people_n lawful_o reject_v he_o as_o no_o bishop_n and_o cleave_v to_o peter_n their_o right_a pastor_n ibid._n p._n 79._o and_o however_o in_o some_o case_n the_o advantage_n of_o some_o impose_v person_n may_v make_v it_o a_o act_n of_o prudence_n and_o so_o a_o duty_n to_o consent_v yet_o whether_o be_v such_o true_o the_o bishop_n of_o such_o church_n till_o they_o do_v consent_n ibid._n p._n 80._o have_v not_o this_o be_v take_v for_o their_o right_n give_v they_o by_o god_n and_o do_v not_o dr._n blondel_n de_fw-la jure_fw-la plebis_fw-la in_o reg._n eccl._n beyond_o exception_n prove_v it_o with_o more_o ib._n p._n 81._o therefore_o if_o bishop_n that_o have_v no_o foundation_n of_o such_o relative_n power_n shall_v impose_v inferior_a pastor_n on_o the_o parish-church_n and_o command_v the_o people_n acceptance_n and_o obedience_n whether_o be_v the_o 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case_n wherein_o moderation_n ought_v to_o be_v show_v and_o be_v not_o that_o very_o agreeable_a to_o the_o christian-temper_n and_o what_o may_v other_o say_v now_o of_o your_o icenicum_fw-la if_o what_o i_o transcribe_v thence_o seem_v to_o you_o not_o agreeable_a to_o the_o christian_a temper_n then_o be_v you_o not_o under_o some_o great_a distemper_n either_o at_o the_o write_n of_o this_o latter_a or_o that_o former_a book_n in_o the_o christian-temper_n i_o have_v occasion_n p._n 370._o to_o borrow_v something_o from_o bishop_n downam_n what_o he_o note_v to_o have_v always_o be_v the_o hypocrite_n guise_n i_o there_o say_v be_v the_o genius_n of_o false_a zeal_n sâ—il_n to_o neglect_v the_o great_a duâ—â—es_n and_o to_o affect_v the_o observation_n of_o the_o less_o to_o prefer_v circumstance_n before_o thâ—â—obstance_n and_o ceremony_n before_o the_o work_n either_o of_o piety_n or_o charity_n to_o place_v the_o height_n of_o their_o religion_n either_o in_o observe_v or_o 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thing_n but_o both_o one_o office_n in_o the_o begin_n of_o christ_n religion_n as_o you_o cite_v his_o ms._n irenic_n p._n 392._o can_v such_o a_o man_n as_o dr._n holland_n and_o i_o need_v not_o tell_v you_o what_o he_o be_v who_o call_v dr_n laud_n a_o schismatic_a for_o assert_v the_o divine_a right_n of_o episcopacy_n say_v it_o be_v to_o make_v a_o division_n betwixt_o the_o english_a and_o other_o reform_a church_n or_o can_v lud._n capellus_n have_v submit_v to_o such_o determination_n that_o it_o be_v evident_a to_o every_o one_o diligent_o read_v holy_a scripture_n etc._n etc._n who_o in_o effect_n say_v the_o contrary_a thes._n salmur_n p._n 8._o §_o 33._o neque_fw-la verò_fw-la praescripto_fw-la ullo_fw-la divino_fw-la desinitum_fw-la esse_fw-la putamus_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o if_o the_o like_a be_v determine_v of_o arch-bishop_n as_o of_o bishop_n i_o be_o in_o some_o doubt_n from_o what_o i_o meet_v with_o in_o your_o rational_a account_n whether_o you_o can_v submit_v to_o such_o determination_n for_o there_o pag._n 298._o you_o speak_v of_o it_o as_o a_o know_a and_o receive_v truth_n in_o the_o ancient_a church_n that_o the_o catholic_n church_n be_v a_o whole_a consist_v of_o homogeneal_a part_n without_o any_o such_o subordination_n or_o dependence_n here_o i_o will_v be_v satisfy_v how_o you_o will_v expound_v homogeneal_a part_n and_o so_o you_o seem_v to_o expound_v they_o p._n 300._o since_o the_o care_n and_o government_n of_o the_o church_n by_o these_o word_n of_o cyprian_a episcopatus_fw-la unus_fw-la appear_v to_o be_v equal_o commit_v to_o all_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n but_o than_o shall_v not_o all_o that_o have_v the_o care_n and_o government_n of_o the_o church_n commit_v to_o they_o be_v suppose_v to_o be_v bishop_n and_o no_o one_o bishop_n above_o another_o otherwise_o how_o be_v the_o care_n and_o government_n of_o the_o church_n equal_o commit_v to_o they_o how_o be_v there_o episcopatus_fw-la unus_fw-la and_o how_o do_v the_o church_n consist_v of_o homogeneal_a part_n and_o thus_o will_v it_o not_o follow_v that_o no_o constitution_n high_o than_o that_o of_o such_o bishop_n as_o have_v the_o care_n and_o government_n of_o the_o church_n commit_v to_o they_o which_o you_o here_o suppose_v to_o be_v with_o a_o parity_n shall_v be_v make_v the_o centre_n of_o ecelesiastical_a communion_n and_o yet_o more_o full_o p._n 302._o when_o s._n cyprian_n say_v episcopatus_fw-la unus_fw-la est_fw-la cujus_fw-la à _fw-la singulis_fw-la in_o solidum_fw-la pars_fw-la tenetur_fw-la de_fw-la vnit._fw-la eccles._n p._n 208._o that_o every_o part_n belong_v to_o each_o bishop_n be_v hold_v in_o solidum_fw-la he_o therein_o import_v that_o full_a right_n and_o power_n which_o every_o bishop_n have_v over_o his_o charge_n and_o in_o this_o speech_n he_o compare_v the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n to_o a_o estate_n hold_v by_o several_a freeholders_n in_o which_o every_o one_o have_v a_o full_a right_n to_o that_o share_n which_o belong_v to_o he_o whereas_o according_a to_o your_o principle_n the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n be_v like_o a_o manor_n or_o lordship_n in_o which_o the_o several_a inhabitant_n hold_v at_o the_o best_a but_o by_o copy_n from_o the_o lord_n now_o it_o will_v be_v consider_v whether_o in_o these_o word_n you_o have_v not_o give_v metropolitan_a church_n a_o shake_n if_o not_o diocesan_n church_n too_o 2._o whether_o you_o can_v submit_v and_o declare_v your_o assent_n if_o lawful_a governor_n shall_v determine_v that_o bishop_n be_v no_o superior_a order_n of_o divine_a or_o apostolical_a institution_n and_o shall_v require_v your_o assent_n will_v you_o then_o disow_v and_o discard_v such_o who_o you_o here_o maintain_v to_o be_v the_o apostle_n successor_n for_o what_o you_o say_v vnreasonableness_n of_o separation_n preface_n p._n 89._o we_o may_v not_o think_v you_o will_v ever_o be_v afraid_a or_o ashamed_a to_o own_v they_o for_o there_o you_o tell_v we_o the_o friend_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n will_v not_o be_v either_o afraid_a or_o ashamed_a to_o own_o her_o cause_n they_o must_v not_o think_v that_o we_o will_v give_v up_o the_o cause_n of_o the_o church_n for_o it_o that_o be_v for_o union_n or_o the_o church_n peace_n so_o as_o to_o condemn_v its_o constitution_n etc._n etc._n then_o you_o can_v say_v that_o whole_o as_o to_o the_o form_n of_o government_n every_o one_o be_v bind_v for_o the_o church_n peace_n to_o submit_v to_o the_o determination_n of_o governor_n whatever_o his_o private_a judgement_n be_v here_o i_o have_v put_v a_o case_n wherein_o you_o can_v not_o submit_v 3._o what_o if_o the_o whole_a work_n of_o government_n belong_v to_o the_o pastor_n office_n be_v quite_o take_v out_o of_o their_o hand_n that_o they_o be_v make_v mere_a curate_n of_o the_o bishop_n and_o such_o copy-holders_n as_o must_v hold_v nothing_o but_o at_o the_o will_n of_o their_o lord_n will_v you_o have_v they_o bind_v to_o acquiesce_v in_o the_o public_a decision_n without_o do_v any_o thing_n towards_o a_o reformation_n shall_v they_o betrary_v the_o church_n interest_n for_o the_o church_n peace_n may_v they_o not_o endeavour_v any_o alteration_n not_o so_o much_o as_o by_o complain_v to_o governor_n of_o such_o exorbitance_n of_o power_n and_o by_o humble_a petition_n for_o redress_v 4._o be_v every_o one_o bind_v to_o submit_v whole_o as_o to_o the_o form_n of_o government_n to_o governors_n determination_n then_o what_o if_o our_o civil_a governor_n and_o the_o ecclesiastical_a shall_v differ_v in_o their_o judgement_n and_o determination_n i_o make_v no_o question_n but_o you_o have_v one_o time_n or_o other_o meet_v with_o that_o of_o sir_n francis_n knolles_n to_o my_o lord_n treasurer_n sir_n william_n cecil_n moreover_o whereas_o your_o lordship_n say_v unto_o i_o that_o the_o bishop_n have_v forsake_v their_o claim_n of_o superiority_n over_o their_o inferior_a brethren_n late_o to_o be_v by_o god_n
no_o such_o matter_n but_o in_o righteousness_n and_o peace_n and_o joy_n in_o the_o holy_a ghost_n 14._o because_o christ_n be_v please_v in_o this_o without_o the_o other_o and_o god_n accept_v such_o 15._o because_o such_o be_v approve_v of_o man_n i._n e._n this_o righteousness_n peace_n and_o holy_a joy_n without_o agreement_n in_o such_o ceremony_n and_o by-matter_n bear_v its_o own_o testimony_n for_o approbation_n to_o the_o judgement_n of_o all_o impartial_a man_n humanity_n and_o christianity_n teach_v we_o to_o love_n and_o honour_v such_o 16._o from_o our_o common_a obligation_n to_o live_v in_o peace_n with_o all_o 17._o from_o our_o obligation_n to_o do_v all_o to_o the_o edify_n of_o one_o another_o 18._o because_o god_n work_n else_o be_v destroy_v by_o we_o 19_o because_o our_o own_o lawful_a act_n be_v turn_v into_o sin_n when_o they_o hurt_v another_o and_o from_o the_o obligation_n that_o lie_v on_o we_o to_o deny_v our_o own_o liberty_n in_o meat_n etc._n etc._n to_o avoid_v the_o hurt_v of_o another_o that_o be_v weak_a 20._o from_o the_o damnation_n of_o such_o as_o be_v drive_v or_o draw_v to_o act_v doubt_o 21._o from_o the_o special_a duty_n and_o mercy_n of_o the_o strong_a that_o shall_v bear_v the_o infirmity_n of_o the_o weak_a 22._o from_o the_o example_n of_o christ_n himself_o that_o please_v not_o himself_o and_o our_o great_a obligation_n to_o imitate_v christ._n 23._o from_o god_n patience_n to_o we_o 24._o because_o indeed_o this_o be_v the_o true_a way_n to_o love_n and_o unity_n that_o with_o one_o mind_n and_o one_o mouth_n we_o may_v glorify_v god_n while_o we_o lay_v not_o our_o concord_n on_o impossible_a term_n 25._o because_o christ_n receive_v we_o and_o it_o be_v to_o god_n glory_n etc._n etc._n whether_o do_v all_o these_o moral_a argument_n signify_v no_o more_o than_o this_o receive_v and_o tolerate_v such_o only_a till_o you_o make_v law_n against_o they_o ibid._n p._n 150_o 151_o 152._o query_n 2._o whether_o man_n have_v any_o authority_n to_o make_v law_n about_o god_n worship_n but_o what_o christ_n have_v give_v they_o second_v plea_n for_o peace_n p._n 28._o §_o 36._o and_o whether_o it_o be_v not_o against_o the_o mind_n and_o law_n of_o christ_n declare_v act._n 15._o 28._o that_o unnecessary_a law_n and_o burden_n in_o religion_n shall_v be_v make_v for_o and_o lay_v upon_o the_o church_n ibid._n p._n 29._o §_o 40._o so_o whether_o that_o determination_n and_o decree_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n by_o the_o apostle_n be_v not_o obligatory_a to_o all_o ruler_n and_o church_n upon_o earth_n even_o to_o this_o day_n and_o whether_o all_o that_o think_v not_o themselves_o wise_a shall_v not_o confess_v that_o at_o least_o it_o be_v safe_a to_o follow_v it_o ibid._n p._n 169._o §_o 74._o if_o therefore_o the_o pastor_n shall_v contrary_v to_o that_o decree_n impose_v unnecessary_a thing_n on_o the_o church_n not_o only_o under_o the_o obligation_n of_o duty_n but_o as_o a_o necessary_a condition_n of_o church-communion_n whether_o this_o be_v not_o a_o tyrannize_a over_o god_n heritage_n and_o usurp_a a_o power_n never_o give_v they_o ibid._n p._n 155._o §_o 33._o q._n 3._o whether_o what_o god_n have_v leave_v to_o human_a prudence_n to_o determine_v concern_v church_n and_o church-affair_n be_v not_o thus_o limit_v by_o his_o general_a law_n viz._n that_o all_o thing_n be_v do_v to_o edification_n the_o circumstance_n fit_v to_o the_o end_n the_o glory_n of_o god_n and_o the_o public_a good_a the_o promote_a of_o truth_n and_o godliness_n that_o all_o be_v do_v in_o love_n to_o the_o promote_a of_o love_n and_o unity_n and_o that_o all_o be_v do_v in_o order_n and_o decent_o and_o as_o may_v avoid_v offence_n or_o scandal_n to_o all_o both_o those_o without_o and_o those_o within_o first_o plea_n for_o peace_n p._n 19_o then_o query_n 1._o whether_o they_o do_v well_o that_o unnecessary_o bring_v subject_n into_o such_o a_o straight_a by_o needless_a law_n for_o addition_n in_o religion_n that_o the_o conscience_n of_o man_n fear_v god_n must_v unavoidable_o be_v perplex_v between_o a_o fear_n of_o treason_n and_o disobedience_n against_o christ_n and_o of_o disobedience_n to_o their_o prince_n or_o pastor_n second_v plea_n etc._n etc._n p._n 28._o §_o 38._o 2._o whether_o it_o be_v not_o more_o inexcusable_a to_o rack_v and_o divide_v the_o church_n by_o unnecessary_a addition_n in_o religion_n ibid._n §_o 39_o 3._o whether_o it_o be_v not_o against_o the_o will_n and_o law_n of_o christ_n to_o use_v thing_n otherwise_o indifferent_a scandalous_o or_o tempt_o to_o the_o ensnare_a and_o endanger_v of_o man_n soul_n and_o the_o dishonour_n of_o religion_n rom._n 14_o &_o 15._o 1_o cor._n 8._o and_o whether_o man_n may_v make_v law_n about_o religion_n enjoin_v such_o a_o evil_a use_n of_o such_o thing_n ibid._n p._n 29._o §_o 41._o 4._o whether_o to_o invent_v and_o command_v new_a publick-worship-ordinance_n either_o in_o god_n name_n or_o their_o own_o coordinate_a or_o of_o the_o same_o kind_n with_o god_n own_o worship-ordinance_n which_o have_v no_o peculiar_a usefulness_n to_o one_o age_n or_o people_n more_o than_o to_o another_o nor_o any_o new_a reason_n for_o they_o but_o what_o be_v extant_a at_o the_o make_n of_o god_n law_n whether_o this_o seem_v not_o to_o be_v a_o accusation_n of_o christ_n law_n of_o omission_n and_o defectiveness_n and_o a_o usurpation_n of_o his_o legislative_a power_n ibid._n §_o 42._o 5._o whether_o to_o forbid_v baptism_n or_o to_o alter_v it_o or_o make_v a_o new_a sacrament_n of_o admission_n or_o a_o new_a consecrate_v or_o dedicate_a symbol_n for_o the_o solemnisation_n of_o our_o covenant_n with_o god_n and_o a_o new_a symbol_n of_o the_o christian_a church_n or_o visible_a badge_n of_o christianity_n seem_v not_o a_o usurpation_n and_o accusation_n of_o god_n law_n as_o insufficient_a ibid._n p._n 30._o §_o 46._o 6._o whether_o to_o forbid_v preach_v or_o prayer_n or_o praise_n ordain_v homogeneal_a mean_n of_o our_o own_o seem_v not_o a_o usurpation_n and_o unlawful_a ibid._n p._n 31._o §_o 47._o 7._o whether_o to_o add_v more_o doctrine_n or_o article_n of_o faith_n which_o god_n have_v not_o reveal_v in_o nature_n or_o scripture_n and_o to_o require_v belief_n or_o proâ—â—â—â—â—_n of_o belief_n of_o the_o same_o 〈…〉_z religious_a end_v seem_v not_o a_o usurpation_n and_o unjust_a accusation_n of_o god_n word_n as_o insufficient_a ibid._n p._n 29._o §_o 43._o 8._o whether_o to_o alter_v the_o qualification_n of_o church-member_n either_o forbid_v those_o that_o christ_n require_v we_o to_o receive_v or_o receive_v such_o as_o christ_n forbid_v we_o to_o receive_v be_v not_o to_o contradict_v his_o law_n by_o usurpation_n whether_o magistrate_n or_o pastor_n do_v it_o ibid._n p._n 30._o §_o 45._o 9_o whether_o to_o alter_v the_o qualification_n of_o christ_n minister_n or_o the_o nature_n of_o their_o office_n and_o invent_v new_a coordinate_a officer_n seem_v not_o usurpation_n ibid._n p._n 31._o §_o 48._o 10._o whether_o to_o overthrow_v or_o prohibit_v christ_n church-discipline_n or_o to_o set_v up_o another_o that_o be_v not_o mere_o subordinate_a to_o it_o modal_o to_o promote_v it_o seem_v not_o a_o usurpation_n ibid._n §_o 51._o 11._o whether_o to_o forbid_v religious_a assembly_n or_o alter_v their_o end_n and_o principal_a use_n be_v not_o to_o usurp_v and_o to_o contradict_v the_o law_n of_o christ_n ibid._n p._n 29._o §_o 44._o q._n 4._o whether_o ruler_n ought_v not_o to_o prefer_v christ_n interest_n before_o their_o own_o and_o account_n that_o their_o own_o lie_v in_o prefer_v his_o and_o shall_v not_o value_v conscionable_a upright_a man_n though_o dissenter_n in_o tolerable_a case_n and_o not_o encourage_v their_o unconscionable_a enemy_n way_n of_o concord_n 3d_o part_n p._n 26._o and_o whether_o the_o chief_a work_n of_o ruler_n be_v not_o to_o promote_v the_o keep_n of_o god_n law_n and_o the_o everlasting_a good_a of_o man_n and_o the_o temporal_a good_a in_o order_n thereunto_o second_v plea_n for_o peace_n p._n 108._o col_fw-fr 1._o §_o 11._o and_o whether_o ruler_n may_v command_v any_o thing_n which_o will_v notable_o do_v more_o harm_n than_o good_a or_o make_v a_o unnecessary_a thing_n a_o mean_n or_o occasion_n of_o exclude_v the_o necessary_a worship_n of_o god_n or_o preach_v of_o his_o gospel_n judgement_n of_o nonconformist_n in_o second_o plea_n etc._n etc._n p._n 76._o §_o 59_o and_o whether_o be_v it_o more_o to_o common_a good_a and_o the_o interest_n of_o honesty_n and_o conscience_n that_o all_o the_o person_n in_o a_o nation_n be_v imprison_v banish_a or_o kill_v that_o dare_v not_o swear_v say_v and_o practice_v all_o that_o be_v impose_v on_o they_o than_o that_o unnecessary_a imposition_n be_v alter_v or_o forbear_v way_n of_o concord_n 3d_o part_n p._n 111_o 112._o q._n 5._o
saviour_n of_o the_o church_n that_o come_v to_o take_v off_o heavy_a burden_n and_o intolerable_a yoke_n will_v take_v it_o well_o to_o have_v man_n come_v after_o he_o and_o as_o by_o his_o authority_n to_o make_v his_o easy_a yoke_n more_o straight_o and_o his_o light_a burden_n heavy_a and_o to_o cast_v or_o keep_v out_o thâ—se_a that_o he_o have_v redeem_v and_o do_v receive_v and_o to_o deal_v cruel_o with_o those_o that_o he_o have_v so_o dear_o buy_v and_o so_o tender_o love_v ibid._n p._n 120._o §_o 6._o when_o christ_n say_v mat._n 18._o 6._o whoso_o shall_v offend_v one_o of_o these_o little_a one_o which_o believe_v in_o i_o it_o be_v better_o for_o he_o that_o a_o millstone_n be_v hang_v about_o his_o neck_n etc._n etc._n whether_o bishop_n may_v curse_v such_o from_o christ_n and_o excommunicate_v they_o and_o whether_o it_o be_v safe_a for_o they_o to_o do_v so_o ibid._n p._n 144._o and_o see_v that_o spiritual_a privilege_n excel_v temporal_a whether_o it_o be_v not_o a_o aggravate_v tyranny_n to_o deprive_v christ_n servant_n of_o benefit_n so_o precious_a and_o so_o dear_o buy_v ibid._n p._n 120._o §_o 9_o q._n 40._o whether_o christ_n be_v not_o the_o institutor_n of_o the_o church_n and_o have_v not_o himself_o make_v law_n which_o be_v sufficient_a to_o be_v at_o least_o the_o bond_n of_o their_o unity_n yea_o for_o more_o than_o essential_o even_o the_o integral_n and_o many_o accident_n and_o have_v not_o he_o give_v law_n to_o regulate_v all_o man_n law_n that_o determine_v of_o needful_a undetermined_a accident_n and_o whether_o any_o man_n shall_v be_v cut_v off_o from_o the_o church_n or_o take_v as_o separate_v that_o break_v no_o law_n of_o god_n necessary_a to_o church-unity_n and_o communion_n and_o whether_o the_o grand_a schismatic_n of_o the_o world_n be_v not_o the_o engineer_n that_o fabricate_a needless_a impossible_a divide_v term_n and_o condition_n of_o unity_n and_o communion_n answ._n to_o dr._n sill._n serm._n p._n 88_o or_o 82._o q._n 41._o whether_o it_o be_v not_o enough_o that_o we_o be_v unite_v and_o agree_v with_o those_o that_o differ_v from_o we_o in_o more_o than_o circumstance_n and_o that_o we_o will_v hold_v concord_n with_o all_o in_o faith_n love_n and_o communion_n if_o they_o will_v admit_v we_o without_o our_o sin_v upon_o the_o term_n set_v down_o by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o the_o apostle_n act_n 15._o 28_o and_o if_o no_o man_n must_v be_v of_o the_o same_o church_n or_o kingdom_n that_o have_v any_o difference_n yea_o as_o great_a as_o can_v reasonable_o be_v suppose_v in_o the_o mere_a nonconformist_n whether_o any_o two_o man_n can_v be_v of_o the_o same_o church_n or_o kingdom_n except_o you_o will_v compose_v it_o of_o such_o as_o hold_v nothing_o unlawful_a and_o consequent_o nothing_o moral_o good_a which_o be_v no_o church_n judgement_n of_o nonconformist_n in_o second_o plea_n for_o peace_n p._n 85_o 86._o q._n 42._o whether_o the_o long_a and_o sad_a experience_n of_o all_o the_o christian_a church_n which_o have_v be_v divide_v by_o unnecessary_a human_a imposition_n and_o the_o voice_n of_o all_o wise_a peacemaker_n in_o all_o time_n who_o have_v still_o call_v for_o unity_n in_o thing_n necessary_a liberty_n in_o thing_n unnecessary_a and_o charity_n in_o both_o do_v not_o leave_v those_o that_o yet_o will_v not_o be_v persuade_v to_o these_o term_n as_o inexcusable_a person_n as_o almost_o any_o in_o the_o world_n worse_a than_o those_o physician_n that_o will_v use_v all_o those_o thing_n as_o the_o only_a remedy_n which_o have_v kill_v all_o that_o ever_o take_v they_o second_v plea_n for_o peace_n p._n 155._o §_o 34._o q._n 43._o whether_o they_o that_o confess_v that_o for_o the_o communion_n of_o all_o the_o church_n there_o be_v no_o term_n like_o these_o now_o mention_v shall_v be_v more_o cruel_a to_o their_o own_o at_o home_n turn_v they_o out_o of_o their_o father_n house_n for_o every_o ceremonial_a difference_n whether_o a_o pastor_n shall_v not_o love_v his_o own_o flock_n as_o well_o as_o the_o people_n of_o a_o foreign_a land_n ib._n p._n 155_o 156._o §_o 35._o and_o whether_o it_o be_v not_o a_o schismatical_a opinion_n that_o though_o church_n of_o many_o kingdom_n may_v charitable_o differ_v in_o ceremony_n and_o indifferent_a thing_n yet_o none_o in_o the_o same_o kingdom_n shall_v be_v suffer_v so_o to_o differ_v whether_o the_o apostle_n paul_n give_v not_o the_o pastor_n and_o people_n of_o the_o same_o church_n of_o rome_n those_o precept_n of_o forbear_v and_o receive_v dissenter_n in_o thing_n indifferent_a way_n of_o concord_n three_o part_n p._n 106._o q._n 44._o whether_o uniformity_n in_o circumstantial_o and_o in_o external_n polity_n be_v any_o more_o than_o a_o carcase_n or_o image_n of_o unity_n without_o unite_n love_n which_o be_v its_o soul_n whether_o all_o union_n in_o evil_a or_o in_o unnecessary_a circumstantial_o which_o be_v manage_v to_o the_o diminution_n of_o christian_a love_n be_v any_o more_o to_o the_o church_n than_o as_o the_o glory_n of_o adorn_a clothing_n or_o monument_n or_o picture_n to_o a_o carcase_n ib._n p._n 66._o q._n 45._o whether_o love_n and_o unity_n which_o the_o most_o zealous_a for_o human_a imposition_n can_v but_o commend_v will_v teach_v man_n to_o tyrannize_v over_o inferior_n to_o contrive_v the_o tread_v down_o of_o other_o that_o they_o may_v rise_v and_o to_o keep_v they_o down_o to_o secure_v their_o own_o domination_n to_o oppress_v the_o poor_a weak_a or_o innocent_a to_o make_v sâ—ares_n for_o other_o man_n conscience_n or_o to_o lay_v stumbling-block_n before_o they_o to_o occasion_v they_o to_o sin_n or_o to_o drive_v they_o on_o to_o sin_n against_o conscience_n and_o so_o to_o hell_n to_o show_v man_n authority_n about_o thing_n they_o call_v indifferent_a or_o in_o a_o thing_n of_o nought_o way_n of_o concord_n p._n 36._o will_v not_o true_a â—ove_n end_v our_o great_a difference_n if_o man_n love_v theâ—_n neighbour_n without_o dissemble_v as_o themselves_o and_o do_v but_o as_o they_o will_v be_v do_v by_o second_v plea_n for_o peâ—â—_n p._n 156._o §_o 37._o yea_o if_o many_o of_o the_o child_n of_o the_o church_n be_v injudicious_o scrupulous_a when_o fear_n of_o sin_n and_o hell_n be_v the_o cause_n whether_o a_o tender_a pastor_n will_v not_o abate_v they_o a_o ceremony_n in_o such_o a_o case_n when_o his_o abate_n it_o have_v no_o such_o danger_n lb._n §_o â—6_n q._n 46._o whether_o unmerciful_a pastor_n do_v not_o tempt_v the_o people_n to_o question_v whether_o they_o be_v send_v of_o god_n whether_o the_o people_n will_v not_o judge_n of_o pastor_n as_o solâ—mon_n of_o the_o true_a mother_n of_o the_o child_n that_o the_o merciful_a and_o love_a be_v the_o true_a pastor_n and_o the_o hartful_a be_v the_o usurper_n lb._n p._n 156_o 157._o §_o 39_o q._n 47._o whether_o they_o that_o can_v bear_v with_o such_o as_o understand_v not_o the_o essential_o of_o christianity_n and_o with_o drunkard_n swearer_n fornicator_n etc._n etc._n in_o their_o constant_a congregation_n and_o communion_n and_o yet_o will_v not_o bear_v with_o a_o honest_a godly_a christian_a that_o differ_v from_o their_o way_n of_o worship_n in_o no_o great_a matter_n than_o a_o ceremony_n have_v not_o something_o more_o amiss_o within_o than_o a_o ceremony_n ib._n p._n 162._o §_o 48._o and_o whether_o the_o soul_n of_o such_o as_o some_o call_v humorous_a peevish_a or_o wilful_a be_v not_o worth_n more_o than_o some_o of_o that_o they_o call_v their_o liberty_n worth_a more_o than_o a_o needless_a ceremony_n judgement_n of_o nonconformist_n in_o second_o plea_n p._n 66._o q._n 5._o q._n 48._o whether_o as_o every_o hypocrite_n will_v be_v very_o religious_a so_o far_o as_o he_o can_v subject_v the_o true_a common_a religion_n to_o his_o own_o interest_n and_o lust_n so_o every_o enemy_n of_o peace_n will_v not_o seem_v zealous_a for_o peace_n so_o that_o his_o own_o peace_n be_v make_v the_o rule_n of_o the_o common_a peace_n that_o all_o man_n be_v bring_v to_o centre_n in_o his_o interest_n and_o take_v their_o peace_n on_o his_o term_n from_o he_o second_v plea_n etc._n etc._n p._n 149._o q._n 49._o whether_o all_o the_o argument_n for_o unity_n and_o peace_n which_o be_v make_v use_n of_o against_o toleration_n by_o prelatist_n and_o all_o the_o mischief_n of_o division_n which_o they_o aggravate_v do_v not_o principal_o fall_v on_o themselves_o if_o it_o prove_v that_o they_o be_v the_o great_a cause_n of_o division_n and_o hinderer_n of_o church-concord_n ib._n p._n 180._o §_o 88_o whether_o they_o do_v not_o condemn_v themselves_o who_o cry_v down_o schism_n while_o they_o unavoidable_o cause_v it_o and_o whether_o overdo_a term_n of_o church-union_n and_o concord_n be_v not_o the_o certain_a engine_n of_o schism_n way_n of_o concord_n p._n 121._o §_o 11._o