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concern_v the_o minister_n thereof_o presbyterian_o say_v that_o no_o law_n of_o god_n have_v appropriate_v it_o to_o a_o bishop_n strict_o so_o call_v if_o mr._n d._n can_v show_v we_o any_o such_o law_n or_o if_o he_o can_v prove_v that_o in_o all_o or_o in_o any_o reform_a church_n a_o mere_a presbyter_n be_v not_o account_v to_o have_v power_n to_o confirm_v as_o well_o as_o to_o baptize_v he_o shall_v do_v something_o let_v he_o therefore_o show_v himself_o a_o man_n and_o undertake_v this_o work_n and_o when_o he_o have_v his_o hand_n in_o let_v he_o also_o wipe_v off_o a_o blot_n throw_v upon_o the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o geneva_n by_o dr._n heylin_n with_o the_o pen_n of_o a_o virulent_a papist_n william_n reynolds_n history_n of_o presby_n pag._n 283._o viz._n that_o 1576_o the_o common-prayer-book_n be_v print_v by_o richard_n jugg_n the_o queen_n printer_n the_o whole_a order_n of_o private_a baptism_n and_o confirmation_n of_o child_n be_v omit_v which_o omission_n be_v design_v to_o bring_v the_o church_n of_o england_n into_o some_o conformity_n to_o the_o desire_a order_n of_o geneva_n pag._n 47._o he_o be_v so_o prodigal_a of_o his_o ink_n and_o paper_n as_o to_o tell_v we_o that_o in_o all_o reform_a church_n matrimony_n be_v celebrate_v in_o the_o public_a congregation_n and_o by_o the_o minister_n this_o may_v be_v true_a of_o all_o reform_a church_n in_o reference_n to_o their_o own_o member_n at_o least_o i_o hope_v it_o be_v but_o if_o he_o shall_v intend_v to_o assert_v that_o reform_a church_n allow_v not_o that_o any_o who_o be_v constant_a liver_n in_o the_o same_o city_n with_o they_o shall_v be_v marry_v otherwise_o than_o by_o the_o minister_n and_o in_o the_o church_n he_o be_v mistake_v yet_o let_v it_o be_v suppose_v that_o papist_n dwell_v with_o protestant_n be_v force_v to_o marry_v in_o the_o church_n and_o to_o make_v use_n of_o a_o minister_n what_o be_v this_o to_o the_o presbyterian_o the_o composer_n of_o the_o directory_n say_v we_o judge_v it_o expedient_a that_o marriage_n be_v solemnize_v by_o a_o lawful_a minister_n of_o the_o word_n that_o he_o may_v counsel_v they_o and_o pray_v for_o they_o in_o the_o say_a directory_n care_v also_o be_v take_v that_o before_o any_o marriage_n the_o person_n intent_n of_o marriage_n be_v publish_v by_o the_o minister_n three_o several_a sabbath_n day_n in_o the_o congregation_n at_o the_o place_n or_o place_n of_o their_o most_o usual_a and_o constant_a abode_n respective_o and_o all_o minister_n be_v to_o have_v sufficient_a testimony_n of_o this_o publication_n before_o they_o proceed_v to_o solemnize_v marriage_n by_o the_o liturgy_n also_o sufficient_a provision_n be_v make_v that_o of_o all_o that_o be_v to_o be_v marry_v the_o banne_n be_v publish_v in_o the_o church_n three_o several_a sunday_n or_o holy_a day_n in_o the_o time_n of_o divine_a service_n but_o any_o one_o that_o have_v money_n may_v have_v a_o licence_n to_o be_v marry_v 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