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A67648 Dr. Stillingfleet still against Dr. Stillingfleet, or, The examination of Dr. Stillingfleet against Dr. Stillingfleet examined by J.W. Warner, John, 1628-1692. 1675 (1675) Wing W910; ESTC R34719 108,236 297

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absurdity_n that_o flow_v from_o what_o he_o maintain_v and_o to_o use_v the_o same_o word_n i_o set_v down_o in_o the_o appendix_n pag._n 21._o i_o infer_v and_o conclude_v hence_o how_o little_a account_n be_v to_o be_v make_v of_o the_o charge_n of_o idolatry_n lay_v upon_o the_o roman_a church_n by_o dr._n st._n see_v that_o the_o very_a same_o principle_n whereby_o he_o pretend_v to_o prove_v that_o roman-catholic_n be_v idolater_n do_v prove_v or_o they_o prove_v nothing_o as_o be_v most_o certain_a for_o a_o argument_n that_o prove_v too_o much_o prove_v nothing_o that_o the_o prophet_n the_o evangelist_n and_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v idolater_n and_o if_o in_o this_o main_a point_n of_o idolatry_n which_o he_o pretend_v to_o make_v manifest_a and_o undeniable_a against_o we_o he_o do_v err_v so_o sacrilegious_o and_o so_o enormous_o may_v we_o not_o prudent_o think_v that_o the_o other_o charge_n of_o lesser_a moment_n which_o he_o lay_v upon_o the_o roman_a church_n and_o wherein_o he_o do_v not_o pretend_v to_o so_o great_a a_o evidence_n be_v mere_a whimsy_n and_o malicious_a calumny_n chap._n x._o concern_v the_o other_o contradiction_n commit_v by_o the_o dr._n in_o the_o charge_n he_o lay_v upon_o the_o roman_a church_n my_o design_n at_o the_o beginning_n be_v to_o pursue_v in_o particular_a the_o other_o contradiction_n wherewith_o i_o charge_v the_o dr_n but_o what_o hitherto_o have_v be_v set_v down_o be_v sufficient_a first_o because_o i_o have_v manifest_o convict_v he_o of_o self-contradiction_n in_o assert_v the_o roman_a church_n to_o be_v a_o true_a church_n and_o yet_o idolatrous_a with_o the_o gross_a idolatry_n and_o since_o the_o main_a aspersion_n the_o cast_v upon_o we_o be_v this_o of_o idolatry_n which_o therefore_o he_o term_v the_o mouth_n of_o the_o dragon_n if_o he_o can_v
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that_o she_o be_v conceive_v with_o original_a sin_n dr._n st._n scarce_o publish_v a_o book_n wherein_o he_o do_v not_o insert_v these_o revelation_n pretend_v thereby_o to_o blow_v up_o the_o infallibility_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n since_o she_o canonize_v for_o saint_n both_o st._n bridgit_n and_o st._n catherine_n and_o approve_v their_o revelation_n and_o consequent_o something_o that_o be_v false_a as_o necessary_o one_o of_o the_o forementioned_a revelation_n must_v be_v particular_o he_o endeavour_v to_o prove_v hence_o against_o i_o that_o submission_n to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n be_v not_o a_o rule_n to_o judge_v fanaticisme_n by_o for_o both_o these_o revelation_n be_v approve_v of_o by_o the_o roman_a church_n and_o yet_o one_o of_o they_o be_v false_a and_o therefore_o fanatical_a and_o one_o of_o those_o saint_n either_o be_v deceive_v or_o go_v about_o to_o deceive_v and_o by_o consequence_n be_v a_o fanatic_a see_v the_o dr._n pag._n 61_o 62._o to_o this_o i_o answer_v that_o the_o dr._n have_v never_o yet_o show_v that_o
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that_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v prove_v fallible_a by_o reason_n of_o the_o two_o forementioned_a revelation_n contrary_a the_o one_o to_o the_o other_o it_o be_v necessary_a for_o dr._n st._n to_o have_v show_v that_o they_o be_v both_o approve_v of_o by_o our_o church_n which_o the_o dr._n have_v not_o yet_o do_v those_o two_o saint_n may_v be_v famous_a for_o their_o revelation_n and_o deserve_o look_v upon_o as_o such_o though_o the_o abovesaid_a two_o revelation_n or_o at_o least_o one_o of_o they_o have_v be_v forge_v moreover_o though_o one_o of_o these_o two_o revelation_n as_o be_v contrary_a one_o to_o the_o other_o be_v false_a and_o the_o person_n to_o who_o such_o a_o revelation_n be_v say_v to_o have_v be_v make_v either_o deceive_v or_o be_v deceive_v suppose_v she_o affirm_v that_o she_o have_v have_v such_o a_o revelation_n yet_o it_o do_v not_o therefore_o follow_v that_o either_o such_o a_o revelation_n be_v fanaticisme_n or_o such_o a_o person_n a_o fanatic_a 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