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A52394	Baptism discovered plainly & faithfully according to the word of God. Wherein is set forth the glorious pattern of our blessed saviour Jesus Christ, the pattern of all believers in his subjection to baptism. Together, with the example of thousands who were baptized after they believed. By John Norcott, late servant of Jesus Christ, and of his church. The third edition, corrected by Will. Kiffin, and Rich. Claridge. With an appendix by another hand.	Norcott, John, d. 1676.; Claridge, Richard, 1649-1723.; Kiffin, William, 1649-1723.	1694 (1694)	Wing N1227A; ESTC R213780	25,797	77

and to your Children and to all that are ● far off even as many as the Lord our G●● shall call Here you see it is to such as are called Now if you say this word Call relates not to the Children but to them that are afar off I Answer it must needs relate to the Children and their Parents and all afar off because it is the Promise ver 16 17. this is that which is spoken of by Joel the Prophet I will pour out of my Spirit on all flesh on your Sons and Daughters Joel 2.28 on the Remnant whom the Lord shall call ver 32. Now if the Promise of the Spirit be to Children though not called then either the Promise doth fail and that 's a fearful thing to think or else all the Children of Believers do partake of this glorious Spirit but the contrary dayly experience shews that many of Believers Children are Carnal not having the Spirit and it is fulfilld only to such whom the Lord our God shall call Object 16. 16. But I have been Baptized in my Infancy therefore what need I be Baptized again I Answer As one saith of Marriage It is not the ●ed that makes Marriage for then forni●ation is Marriage but a lawful consent by Covenant that makes Marriage So I say of Baptism it is not Water thrown on the face that makes Baptism but it is a free consent and subjection to Christ according to the Rule that makes Baptism Now when thou wast an Infant thou gavest no consent thou canst not tell of any such thing but by report thou knowest not when it was thou hadst no Faith in the Act. And what ever is not of Faith is sin so that thou art not yet baptized Again consider what defects have been in thy Infant-Baptism First there was no Rule to baptize thee while an Infant Then thou wast not a right subject for thou oughtst to believe and be baptized then thou wast only sprinkled not buried in baptism as Christ was and hath commanded Now wilt thou call that baptism which was only a Tradition received from thy Fore-Fathers when the Lord Jesus did shed his most precious blood to redeem thee from the Tradition of thy Fore-Fathers 1 Pet. 1.18 19 Object 17. 17. But many lay so much stress on Baptism as makes us more backward to it I Answer Is there more stress laid by any than Christ who said they rejected the Counc●● of God against themselves not being baptized Luk. 7.29 30. And is it not our duty to contend for the faith once delivered to the Saints Object 18. 18. But the Children of Believers are holy therefore they ought to be baptized I Answer As it is said the Children are holy so it is said the unbelieving Husband is holy or sanctified by the believing Wife This Holiness is wholly to the use of Marriage for the Apostle is in that place 1 Cor. 7. speaking of Marriage and whether those who have believed should live with unbelieving Husbands or put them away as 1 Cor. 7.13 So that the Holiness here spoken of it is wholly to their use it is said Zach. 14.20 There shall be Holiness on the Horses Bells and every Pot in the Lords House sh●ll be Holy Now do you think this was a sufficient warrant to baptize Bells as you ma● read they did in the Book of Martyrs 〈…〉 being holy for the use of the By 〈…〉 Sanctified by 〈…〉 ●●ayer 1 Tim. 3.4 5. And to the Pure all things are Pure Tit. 1.15 That is to their use Thus Children are holy and unbelieving Husbands are sanctified to their use But if you think Believers Children are inherently holy doth not your experience tell you the contrary do not we see good Men have ungodly Children and bad Men have holy Children so that they are only holy for their use they are not born in uncleanness Object 19. 19. When they were formerly circumcised Men of years were circumcised but afterwards Infants were circumcised so in the Gospel when Baptism was first administred Men and Women were baptized but afterwards Infants were Baptized I Answer When God first commanded Circumcision he commanded that it should be administred to Children Gen. 17.10 every Man-child but when Christ commanded Baptism he commanded that persons should be taught and that they should believe and be baptized and never gave a Command to baptize Children Then consider we have the Lives and Acts of the Apostles and Primitive Churches for divers years and not one Infant baptized Paul was converted sometime after Christs Ascension and was fourteen years in Christ Cor. 12.2 In these fourteen years sure some Children were born yet not one baptized that we read of Object 20. 20. They were Heathens that were baptized in the Apostles days I Answer Was the Lord Jesus a Heathen he was baptized The Eunuch a Worshipper of the true God Cornelius a man whose Prayers and Alms came to God for a Memorial were these Heathens Nay do not those who baptize Infants baptize Heathens Eph. 2.3 We are the Children of wrath by Nature It is you that plead for the baptizing Heathens we plead for the baptizing Believers Object 21. 21. But Paul saith 1 Cor. 1.17 Christ sent me not to baptize but to preach I Answer That Paul did baptize 1 Cor. 1.14 15. He baptized Crispus and Gaius and the Houshold of Stephanas and divers others Now what he did he did by Commission or Presumption but he did it not by Presumption therefore he did it by Commission he was sent to preach Baptism fell in as a part of his Preaching Office Philip was chosen a Deacon yet he baptized the Eunuch Baptism fell in as part of his work Acts 8. so that he that is called to be a Preacher needs no call to baptize the other falls in as his work Object 22. 22. But there were three thousand baptized in one day how could all these be dipped in one day they might be sprinkled but not dipped I Answer They might well be dipped for there were twelve Apostles and seventy Disciples as Luke 10.1 that is eighty two these might well baptize three thousand in a day CHAP. IX Believers-Baptism and Infant-Baptism compared 1. Believers Baptism hath a Command Mat. 28.19 20. 1. Infant-Baptism hath not a Command 2. Believers baptism hath many Examples Acts 8.12 cap. 2.37 41 42 c. 2. Infant-baptism hath no Example 3. Believers baptism is from Heaven Mat. 21.25 3. Infant-baptism is from Men. 4. Believers baptism is the Councel of God Luk. 7.29.30 4. Infant baptism hath the Councel of Men. 5. Believers baptism hath been Gloriously sealed Matthew 3. 5. Infant-baptism never was sealed by God 6. In believers baptism the person baptized acts faith 6. But in Infant-baptism the Infant acts no faith 7. In believers baptism the person subjects in acts of obedience 7. But in Infant-baptism the Infant puts forth no Act of Obedience 8. In believers baptism the person knows when he is baptized

Pharisees and Lawyers the learned men of the times rejected the Councel of God against themselves not being baptized Do not say as they said Which of the Rulers have believed in him Hearken to Christ's Answer Mat. 11.25 Jesus answered I thank thee O Father Lord of Heaven and Earth that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent and hast revealed them to Babes And further If Learning were an Argument in this case Are there not many Cardinals and Jesuits Learned Men Object 7. 7. But are not there very Godly men Pastors of Churches that hold Infant-baptism I Answer You are not to follow an Apostle further than he followeth Christ 1 Cor. 11.1 Follow me as I follow Christ Again bring no Examples of good Men against an express word You have an express word Acts 8.12 When they believed they were Baptized both Men Women Elias was a good man he called for fire from Heaven but we must not do so Jehosaphat was a good King but the High Places were not removed follow no Example against a word 1 Kings 22.42 43. Thou shalt not follow a multitude to do evil Exod. 23.2 Object 8. 8. But there 's not a word against Baptizing Infants I Answer Nadab and Abihu were burned with fire because they did that the Lord commanded not Lev. 10.2 3. Again if you mean by a word an express word then where have you a word Thou shalt not baptize Bells as you read in the Book of Martyrs they did Where have you a word saying Thou shalt not use Spittle Cream or Salt in Baptism as the Roman Catholicks do But you must know it is enough against Infant-Baptism it is not commanded Object 9. 9. But were there not whole Families Baptized I Answer That it is expresly said They all believed Acts 16.34 He was baptized and all his ver 33. He rejoyced beleiving in God with all his House ver 34. Crispus the Chief Ruler believed in God with all his House and many of the Corinthians believed and were baptized Acts 18.8 Lydia and all her House were baptized Acts 16.15 Here 's no mention of Husband or Children whether she was a Maid or a Widdow only they are called Brethren ver 40. Object 10. 10 Infants were once Church● Members and we do not find they were cut off I Answer That the natural Branches were broken off by their Unbelief and if they come to believe they may be grafted in again but till then they are broken off Rom. 11.20 21. Again now in the Gospel the Axe is laid to the root of the Tree and every Tree that brings not forth good fruit is cut down and cast into the fire Mat. 3.9 10. Therefore you must not think to say you have Abraham or a Believer for your Father This is the sure Word of God And thus you may see that the Sadduces were rejected when they came for Baptism thinking to say They had Abraham for their Father Mat. 3.7 8 9. And further Infants were Members of the National Church of the Jews But where were they ever Members of a particular Church under the Gospel When Infants were Members then Servants that were bought with Money were all Members Gen. 17.12 Which are not of thy seed God now in the Gospel seeks such to Worship him who Worship him in Spirit and in Truth John 4.23 And further there was then a middle Wall of Partition but this middle Wall of Partition is broken down Eph. 2.14 And now God is no Respecter of Persons but in every Nation such as fear him and work Righteousness are accepted of him Acts 10.34.35 Object 11. 11. But is the Priviledge of Believers Children less under the Gospel than it was under the Law I Answer What dost thou mean by Priviledge was it a priviledge to be under the Law or is it now a priviledge to be under the Gospel or dost thou mean by priviledge to have the Promises which the Apostle tells us of Rom 9.8 They which are Children of the flesh are not the Children of Promise or dost thou mean by Priviledge to partake of the visible Ordinance of Circumcision And is this such a priviledge which the Apostle Acts 15.10 calls a yoke that neither we nor our Fathers were able to bear is this the priviledge thou meanest Object 12. 12. But the Seed was in Covenant God made a Covenant with Abraham and his Seed I Answer What dost thou mean by Covenant dost thou mean the Covenant that was made on Mount Sinai or a Covenant of Works dost thou mean the Covenant of Grace wherein God promiseth to be their God and dost thou make this Covenant of Grace to be Conditional And dost thou judge that Ishmael Saul and Jeroboam the son of Nebat and Ahaz and all they were in the Covenant of Grace or dost thou judge they lost their Interest in the Covenant of Grace and so indeed make it a Covenant of Works Therefore consider God did make a Covenant with Abraham and his natural Seed to give them the Land of Canaan Gen. 17.7 8. but as to the Promise of Life and Salvation this was made to Abraham and his spiritual Seed Gal. 3.16 Now to Abraham and his Seed were the Promises made he saith not unto Seeds as of many but as of one to thy Seed which is Christ If you will believe this Text there 's little difficulty in the Objection Rom. 9.8 The Children of Promise are counted for the Seed Object 13. 13. But they were so far in the Covenant as to give them a Right to the Ordinance I Answer Circumcision was entail'd on Abraham and his Seed and his Servants but where is Baptism intailed upon Believers natural Seed The Priesthood by a Covenant was entailed on the Tribe of Levi and their Seed as you may read Josh 18.7 Num. 25.13 will you now entail the Ministry on Preachers and their natural Seed But as to the point of Baptism were there not many that came to be Baptized and John said Think not to say you have Abraham for your Father Mat. 3.9 clearly shewing that their Carnal Right was cut off by the Gospel Now the Axe is laid to the Root of the Tree every Tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewen down and cast into the fire And note further Abraham had a word for to warrant his circumcising his Seed but where is there a word for Baptizing Infants Object 14. 14. But Christ said suffer little Children to come to me for of such is the Kingdom of Heaven I Answer The Text tells you plainly they were not brought to be baptized but that Christ might lay his hands on them and pray for them Mat. 19.13 Mark 10.16 Here 's nothing of Baptism Object 15. 15. But 't is said Acts 2.39 The Promise is to you and to your Children I Answer Do so much justice to thy own Soul ● to read the whole Text and you sh●● find that it is said The Promise is to y●●