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A67648 Dr. Stillingfleet still against Dr. Stillingfleet, or, The examination of Dr. Stillingfleet against Dr. Stillingfleet examined by J.W. Warner, John, 1628-1692. 1675 (1675) Wing W910; ESTC R34719 108,236 297

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dr._n st._n will_v think_v himself_o oblige_v to_o own_o whatever_o protestant_n do_v in_o the_o late_a rebellion_n the_o second_o absurdity_n he_o pretend_v to_o infer_v from_o our_o doctrine_n be_v that_o prophet_n and_o apostle_n nay_o our_o lord_n himself_o be_v according_a to_o this_o rule_n avoidable_a fanatic_n for_o what_o competent_a authority_n say_v he_o pag._n 56._o have_v they_o to_o countenance_v they_o be_v you_o in_o earnest_a doctor_n have_v christ_n the_o prophet_n and_o apostle_n no_o competent_a authority_n to_o countenance_v their_o proceed_n this_o indeed_o be_v to_o cast_v they_o into_o the_o common_a hear_v of_o fanatic_n since_o no_o competent_a authority_n neither_o humane_a nor_o divine_a do_v countenance_n or_o approve_v their_o preach_v can_v the_o dr._n deny_v but_o that_o christ_n the_o apostle_n and_o prophet_n be_v countenance_v by_o divine_a authority_n manifest_v by_o unquestionable_a miracle_n or_o will_v he_o say_v that_o divine_a authority_n 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acknowledge_v his_o commission_n and_o god_n broad_a seal_n viz._n evident_a miracle_n wrought_v by_o he_o when_o in_o a_o full_a assembly_n they_o affirm_v joan_n 11._o hic_fw-la homo_fw-la multa_fw-la signa_fw-la facit_fw-la this_o man_n christ_n work_v many_o miracle_n and_o certain_o such_o a_o public_a attestation_n as_o this_o be_v enough_o to_o countenance_n and_o acknowledge_v his_o commission_n though_o out_o of_o obstinacy_n they_o will_v not_o submit_v to_o his_o doctrine_n as_o pilate_n declare_v our_o saviour_n to_o be_v innocent_a and_o guiltless_a yet_o out_o of_o fear_n lest_o he_o shall_v disgust_v caesar_n condemn_v he_o to_o death_n i_o can_v omit_v here_o the_o two_o famous_a yet_o contradictory_n revelation_n which_o be_v say_v to_o have_v be_v make_v to_o st._n bridgit_n and_o st._n catherine_n concern_v the_o immaculate_a conception_n of_o our_o bless_a lady_n to_o st._n bridgit_n that_o she_o be_v conceive_v without_o original_a sin_n to_o st._n catherine_n that_o she_o be_v conceive_v with_o original_a sin_n dr._n st._n scarce_o publish_v a_o book_n wherein_o he_o do_v not_o insert_v these_o revelation_n pretend_v thereby_o to_o blow_v up_o the_o infallibility_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n since_o she_o canonize_v for_o saint_n both_o st._n bridgit_n and_o st._n catherine_n and_o approve_v their_o revelation_n and_o consequent_o something_o that_o be_v false_a as_o necessary_o one_o of_o the_o forementioned_a revelation_n must_v be_v particular_o he_o endeavour_v to_o prove_v hence_o against_o i_o that_o submission_n to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n be_v not_o a_o rule_n to_o judge_v fanaticisme_n by_o for_o both_o these_o revelation_n be_v approve_v of_o by_o the_o roman_a church_n and_o yet_o one_o of_o they_o be_v false_a and_o therefore_o fanatical_a and_o one_o of_o those_o saint_n either_o be_v deceive_v or_o go_v about_o to_o deceive_v and_o by_o consequence_n be_v a_o fanatic_a see_v the_o dr._n pag._n 61_o 62._o to_o this_o i_o answer_v that_o the_o dr._n have_v never_o yet_o show_v that_o
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his_o worthy_a antagonist_n 40._o pref_o pag._n 40._o t._n g._n and_o here_o i_o can_v but_o wonder_v what_o dr._n st._n the_o champion_n of_o the_o protestant_a church_n preface_n whitby_n in_o his_o preface_n that_o incomparable_a man_n that_o prodigy_n of_o ingenuity_n and_o learning_n have_v he_o not_o courage_n enough_o to_o combat_n the_o knight_n even_o when_o his_o own_o party_n be_v in_o so_o great_a expectation_n of_o the_o engagement_n must_v he_o be_v force_v to_o substitute_n whitby_n in_o his_o place_n but_o to_o such_o shift_n as_o these_o one_o will_v be_v put_v who_o when_o he_o have_v serious_a business_n in_o hand_n trifle_n out_o his_o time_n in_o foppery_n yea_o probable_o speak_v he_o will_v hire_v some_o such_o man_n and_o there_o be_v many_o such_o man_n as_o dr._n whitby_n to_o encounter_v the_o squire_n too_o for_o so_o he_o term_v that_o ingenious_a writer_n j._n s._n and_o the_o rest_n of_o his_o learned_a adversary_n who_o remain_v unanswered_a yet_o it_o 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answer_n to_o several_a treatise_n issue_v forth_o against_o his_o discourse_n of_o the_o roman_a idolatry_n the_o book_n i_o attaque_v which_o remain_v yet_o unanswered_a to_o the_o end_n that_o have_v see_v what_o he_o can_v answer_v to_o the_o whole_a charge_n lay_v to_o he_o in_o this_o debate_n i_o may_v the_o better_a order_n my_o reply_n but_o since_o the_o dr._n in_o so_o long_a a_o time_n have_v not_o yet_o be_v please_v to_o satisfy_v so_o just_a a_o expectation_n for_o some_o good_a reason_n he_o know_v i_o resolve_v without_o any_o far_a delay_n to_o set_v forth_o this_o rejoynder_n especial_o be_v press_v thereunto_o by_o the_o invitation_n of_o several_a person_n of_o learning_n both_o diocesan_n and_o catholic_n who_o be_v persuade_v that_o the_o dr._n in_o the_o examination_n of_o my_o book_n have_v lay_v himself_o thus_o open_a as_o will_v manifest_o appear_v by_o the_o follow_a treatise_n the_o content_n chap._n i._o on_o supposition_n dr._n st._n contradict_v himself_o in_o the_o way_n i_o insist_v upon_o all_o the_o charge_n he_o cast_v upon_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v false_a and_o all_o their_o proof_n void_a chap._n ii_o several_a objection_n against_o the_o forementioned_a way_n of_o answer_v the_o dr._n prove_v insignificant_a chap._n iii_o other_o objection_n answer_v chap._n iu._n the_o evasion_n of_o the_o dr._n to_o clear_v himself_o from_o self-contradiction_n in_o charge_v the_o roman_a church_n with_o idolatry_n examine_v chap._n v._o the_o dr._n palpable_o contradict_v himself_o by_o affirm_v the_o roman_a church_n to_o be_v idolatrous_a and_o yet_o grant_v she_o to_o be_v a_o true_a church_n chap._n vi_o another_o proof_n of_o the_o same_o intent_n draw_v from_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o idolatry_n the_o dr._n father_n upon_o the_o roman_a church_n chap._n vii_o the_o invalidity_n of_o the_o drs._n answer_v to_o our_o proposition_n in_o particular_a chap._n viii_o several_a quibble_n against_o the_o aforesaid_a doctrine_n 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be_v and_o essence_n of_o a_o true_a church_n to_o draw_v this_o argument_n into_o a_o narrow_a circle_n i_o form_n this_o dilemma_n either_o by_o the_o idolatry_n dr._n st._n father_n upon_o our_o church_n some_o honour_n due_a only_o to_o god_n be_v give_v to_o a_o mere_a creature_n or_o not_o if_o not_o than_o it_o be_v no_o idolatry_n as_o not_o participare_v the_o general_a notion_n of_o idolatry_n if_o so_o than_o it_o be_v destrrctive_a to_o a_o essential_a point_n of_o religion_n and_o consequent_o to_o the_o essence_n of_o a_o true_a church_n so_o that_o dr._n st._n by_o distinguish_v two_o sort_n of_o idolatry_n one_o destructive_a to_o the_o be_v of_o a_o church_n another_o not-destructive_a to_o the_o be_v of_o a_o church_n do_v as_o much_o as_o tell_v we_o there_o be_v two_o sort_n of_o idolatry_n one_o that_o be_v idolatry_n another_o that_o be_v not_o idolatry_n of_o the_o former_a
he_o declare_v we_o free_a but_o of_o the_o latter_a he_o make_v we_o guilty_a and_o we_o poor_a soul_n because_o we_o can_v discern_v such_o subtle_a distinction_n as_o these_o must_v be_v chalk_v up_o for_o half-witted_n man_n but_o if_o the_o accomplishedness_n of_o dr._n st.'s_n wit_n have_v no_o more_o of_o wit_n in_o it_o than_o no_o idolatry_n have_v of_o idolatry_n we_o have_v little_a reason_n to_o envy_v he_o yet_o far_o it_o be_v impossible_a that_o a_o church_n which_o hold_v any_o damnable_a error_n shall_v be_v a_o true_a church_n for_o all_o damnable_a error_n lead_v to_o damnation_n and_o upon_o that_o account_n be_v call_v damnable_a but_o a_o true_a church_n carry_v to_o salvation_n and_o therefore_o must_v be_v true_a in_o all_o thing_n necessary_a to_o the_o obtain_n thereof_o nor_o among_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v necessary_a to_o the_o obtain_n tain_v of_o salvation_n one_o be_v the_o avoid_v all_o damnable_a error_n as_o be_v destructive_a thereunto_o whence_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o a_o church_n which_o hold_v any_o damnable_a error_n can_v so_o long_o be_v a_o true_a church_n and_o to_o hold_v any_o idolatry_n whatsoever_o be_v without_o question_n a_o damnable_a error_n since_o all_o idolatry_n be_v damnable_a and_o destructive_a to_o salvation_n yea_o dr._n st._n pag._n 34._o charge_v our_o church_n with_o damnable_a error_n especial_o upon_o the_o account_n of_o the_o idolatry_n which_o as_o he_o fancy_n she_o do_v teach_v and_o which_o page_n 22._o he_o own_v to_o be_v very_o sinful_a neither_o do_v i_o believe_v that_o the_o dr._n will_v dare_v to_o affirm_v that_o a_o church_n which_o shall_v teach_v adultery_n to_o be_v lawful_a can_v so_o long_o be_v a_o true_a church_n and_o yet_o idolatry_n be_v no_o less_o damnable_a and_o destructive_a to_o salvation_n than_o adultery_n wherefore_o to_o hold_v either_o of_o they_o as_o lawful_a be_v equal_o at_o least_o destructive_a to_o the_o be_v of_o a_o true_a church_n it_o be_v therefore_o impossible_a that_o the_o roman_a church_n shall_v hold_v any_o sort_n of_o idolatry_n as_o dr._n st._n will_v needs_o have_v we_o believe_v she_o do_v without_o hold_v a_o damnable_a and_o fundamental_a error_n destructive_a to_o the_o very_a essence_n and_o be_v of_o a_o true_a church_n for_o in_o the_o dictionary_n of_o such_o as_o have_v any_o insight_n into_o religious_a concern_v a_o fundamental_a error_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n a_o damnable_a error_n and_o a_o error_n inconsistent_a with_o the_o essence_n of_o a_o true_a church_n be_v term_n synonymous_n moreover_o whereas_o the_o very_a vital_n of_o a_o religion_n be_v the_o honour_n of_o god_n and_o the_o salvation_n of_o soul_n idolatry_n undermine_v they_o both_o by_o give_v the_o honour_n due_a only_o unto_o god_n to_o a_o mere_a creature_n and_o by_o lead_v soul_n to_o damnation_n how_o therefore_o can_v it_o choose_v but_o destroy_v the_o very_a essence_n of_o a_o true_a religion_n and_o as_o a_o high_a treason_n whereby_o one_o do_v give_v the_o honour_n and_o respect_v due_a only_o to_o his_o sovereign_n to_o a_o mere_a subject_n be_v beyond_o debate_n contrary_a to_o a_o fundamental_a point_n of_o loyalty_n and_o destructive_a thereunto_o so_o it_o be_v a_o palpable_a contradiction_n to_o assert_v that_o such_o a_o person_n be_v a_o true_a and_o faithful_a subject_n but_o yet_o a_o traitor_n in_o the_o like_a manner_n since_o by_o all_o idolatry_n according_a to_o the_o notion_n thereof_o assent_v unto_o even_o by_o dr._n st._n be_v give_v to_o a_o mere_a creature_n the_o honour_n due_a only_o unto_o god_n and_o upon_o this_o account_n idolatry_n be_v high_a treason_n against_o god_n dr._n st._n must_v needs_o be_v guilty_a of_o self_n contradiction_n in_o affirm_v the_o roman_a church_n to_o be_v a_o true_a church_n but_o yet_o idolatrous_a whence_o appear_v that_o the_o instance_n of_o a_o traitor_n allege_v by_o the_o dr._n page_n 25._o make_v rather_o against_o he_o than_o for_o he_o where_o we_o must_v reflect_v that_o according_a to_o dr._n st._n not_o only_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n but_o also_o her_o doctrine_n be_v idolatrous_a since_o she_o teach_v and_o approve_v of_o that_o very_a practice_n which_o she_o judge_v to_o be_v idolatrous_a hitherto_o we_o have_v show_v that_o all_o sort_n of_o idolatry_n be_v inconsistent_a with_o the_o very_a essence_n of_o a_o true_a church_n and_o by_o consequence_n that_o it_o be_v a_o manifest_a contradiction_n to_o affirm_v that_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v a_o true_a church_n and_o yet_o deprave_v with_o idolatry_n however_o it_o be_v enough_o for_o my_o purpose_n to_o evince_v that_o that_o sort_n of_o idolatry_n which_o dr._n st._n father_n upon_o the_o roman_a church_n destroy_v the_o very_a essence_n and_o be_v of_o a_o true_a church_n which_o i_o shall_v prove_v in_o the_o follow_a chapter_n chap._n vi_o another_o proof_n of_o the_o same_o intent_n draw_v from_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o idolatry_n the_o doctor_n father_n upon_o the_o roman_a church_n the_o idolatry_n dr._n st._n endeavour_n to_o fasten_v upon_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v as_o he_o pretend_v to_o prove_v at_o large_a in_o his_o discourse_n concern_v the_o idolatry_n practise_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n pag._n 58._o &_o seq_fw-la point_n blank_a against_o the_o second_o command_v according_a to_o their_o reckon_n of_o the_o decalogue_n and_o be_v immediate_o opposite_a thereunto_o now_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o this_o commandment_n contain_v a_o essential_a and_o fundamental_a point_n of_o religion_n since_o it_o so_o near_o concern_v god_n honour_n and_o worship_n the_o chief_a aim_n of_o religion_n whence_o it_o manifest_o follow_v that_o the_o idolatry_n he_o father_n upon_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v destructive_a to_o a_o fundamental_a point_n of_o religion_n and_o by_o consequence_n inconsistent_a with_o the_o very_o be_v of_o a_o true_a church_n beside_o the_o dr._n do_v willing_o confess_v and_o it_o will_v be_v a_o madness_n not_o to_o do_v so_o that_o there_o be_v some_o sort_n of_o idolatry_n destructive_a not_o only_o to_o the_o soundess_n for_o this_o be_v general_a to_o all_o sort_n of_o idolatry_n but_o also_o to_o the_o very_a essence_n and_o be_v of_o a_o true_a church_n see_v his_o answer_n pag._n 24._o whence_o we_o infer_v that_o whatever_o church_n hold_v that_o kind_n of_o idolatry_n which_o be_v destructive_a to_o the_o be_v of_o a_o church_n can_v so_o long_o be_v a_o true_a church_n whatever_o other_o tenet_n she_o maintain_v so_o that_o it_o will_v have_v be_v a_o palpable_a contradiction_n in_o dr._n st._n even_o according_a to_o his_o own_o doctrine_n have_v he_o hold_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o be_v a_o true_a church_n as_o he_o do_v and_o yet_o charge_v she_o with_o the_o forementioned_a kind_n of_o idolatry_n now_o let_v we_o examine_v what_o character_n dr._n st._n give_v we_o of_o the_o idolatry_n he_o be_v please_v to_o father_n upon_o the_o roman_a church_n in_o his_o discourse_n concern_v the_o idolatry_n practise_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n pag._n 69._o he_o say_v thus_o it_o seem_v much_o more_o reasonable_a for_o i_o to_o worship_n god_n by_o prostrate_v myself_o to_o the_o sun_n or_o any_o of_o the_o heavenly_a body_n nay_o to_o a_o ant_n or_o a_o fly_n than_o to_o a_o picture_n or_o image_n and_o he_o endeavour_v to_o prove_v this_o his_o assertion_n according_a to_o which_o the_o idolatry_n he_o fasten_v upon_o the_o roman_a church_n in_o the_o veneration_n of_o the_o picture_n or_o image_n of_o god_n be_v esteem_v by_o he_o far_o worse_o than_o the_o adoration_n of_o the_o sun_n moon_n a_o ant_n or_o a_o fly_n practise_v by_o the_o heathen_n pag._n 132._o he_o approve_v this_o testimony_n of_o costerus_n if_o the_o doctrine_n of_o transubstantiation_n be_v not_o true_a the_o idolatry_n of_o the_o heathen_n in_o worship_v some_o golden_a or_o silver_n statue_n or_o any_o image_n of_o their_o god_n or_o the_o laplander_n in_o worship_v a_o red_a cloth_n or_o the_o egyptian_n a_o animal_n be_v more_o excusable_a than_o of_o christian_n that_o worship_n a_o bit_n of_o bread_n this_o costerus_n asfirm_v only_o upon_o this_o condition_n that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o transubstantiation_n be_v not_o true_a but_o dr._n st._n who_o absolute_o judge_v that_o doctrine_n not_o to_o be_v true_a and_o moreover_o approve_v the_o foresay_a testimony_n of_o costerus_n must_v needs_o hold_v the_o idolatry_n he_o impute_v to_o catholic_n in_o the_o adoration_n of_o the_o eucharist_n to_o be_v more_o detestable_a than_o that_o of_o the_o egyptian_n and_o laplander_n pag._n 134._o he_o seem_v to_o approve_v this_o sentiment_n of_o dr._n taylour_n a_o image_n than_o become_v a_o idol_n when_o divine_a worship_n be_v give_v to_o it_o and_o to_o worship_n false_a god_n or_o to_o give_v divine_a honour_n to_o
church_n with_o a_o idolatry_n of_o a_o undue_a object_n because_o the_o worship_n due_a only_o to_o god_n be_v give_v by_o we_o as_o he_o fancy_v to_o a_o mere_a creature_n and_o not_o only_o with_o idolatry_n of_o a_o undue_a and_o prohibit_v man-manner_n of_o worship_n which_o be_v two_o sort_n of_o idolatry_n he_o make_v mention_n of_o in_o the_o same_o page_n to_o confirm_v the_o former_a doctrine_n he_o say_v thus_o in_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n by_o image_n wherewith_o he_o charge_v we_o the_o worship_n due_a to_o god_n and_o i_o suppose_v he_o speak_v of_o a_o worship_n due_a only_o to_o god_n be_v terminate_v whole_o on_o the_o creature_n wherefore_o if_o this_o be_v idolatry_n it_o must_v be_v idolatry_n of_o a_o undue_a object_n much_o more_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n may_v be_v allege_v out_o of_o he_o but_o what_o already_o i_o have_v produce_v be_v sufficient_a from_o what_o hitherto_o have_v be_v quote_v out_o of_o dr._n st._n it_o be_v manifest_a that_o the_o idolatry_n he_o father_n upon_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v in_o his_o opinion_n as_o bad_a nay_o worse_o than_o the_o gross_a idolatry_n of_o the_o heathen_n now_o since_o the_o gross_a idolatry_n of_o the_o heathen_n be_v beyond_o debate_n and_o dr._n st._n always_o suppose_v it_o be_v so_o be_v i_o say_v inconsistent_a with_o the_o be_v and_o essence_n of_o a_o true_a church_n and_o a_o true_a religion_n and_o since_o the_o malice_n of_o idolatry_n be_v to_o be_v scane_v by_o the_o opposition_n it_o have_v with_o religion_n this_o be_v so_o be_v it_o not_o a_o madness_n to_o say_v and_o confess_v that_o the_o gross_a idolatry_n of_o the_o heathen_n be_v inconsistent_a not_o only_o with_o the_o soundness_n but_o also_o with_o the_o essence_n of_o a_o true_a church_n but_o yet_o that_o the_o idolatry_n of_o the_o papist_n although_o as_o bad_a nay_o worse_o than_o the_o gross_a of_o the_o heathen_n be_v inconsistent_a only_o with_o the_o soundness_n of_o a_o church_n and_o not_o with_o the_o essence_n be_v not_o this_o as_o if_o one_o shall_v say_v if_o you_o cut_v off_o the_o head_n of_o a_o man_n you_o will_v kill_v he_o but_o if_o you_o give_v he_o another_o wound_n as_o bad_a or_o worse_a if_o you_o run_v he_o through_o the_o heart_n if_o you_o cut_v he_o all_o in_o piece_n you_o will_v only_o make_v he_o sick_a what_o sense_n can_v there_o be_v in_o affirm_v that_o the_o heathen_n be_v not_o member_n of_o the_o true_a church_n because_o they_o be_v idolater_n in_o so_o high_a a_o degree_n and_o yet_o that_o roman_a catholic_n though_o grosser_n idolater_n than_o the_o heathen_n be_v member_n of_o the_o true_a church_n that_o the_o heathenish_a idolatry_n at_o least_o some_o be_v of_o a_o nature_n high_a enough_o to_o unchurch_n heathen_n and_o yet_o that_o the_o roman_a idolatry_n though_o grosser_n and_o high_a than_o any_o heathenish_a be_v not_o of_o a_o nature_n high_a enough_o as_o he_o say_v pag._n 22._o to_o unchurch_n romanist_n if_o this_o be_v not_o nonsense_n what_o be_v moreover_o from_o what_o we_o have_v allege_v out_o of_o the_o dr._n it_o be_v evident_a that_o he_o ascrib'_v unto_o we_o idolatry_n of_o a_o undue_a object_n and_o sure_o all_o such_o idolatry_n be_v inconsistent_a with_o the_o very_o be_v of_o a_o true_a church_n for_o dr._n st._n when_o he_o will_v excuse_v the_o idolatry_n he_o father_n upon_o we_o from_o be_v destructive_a to_o the_o very_a essence_n of_o a_o true_a church_n he_o endeavour_v to_o say_v that_o it_o be_v only_a idolatry_n of_o a_o undue_a manner_n of_o worship_n which_o show_v that_o he_o hold_v idolatry_n of_o a_o undue_a object_n to_o be_v destructive_a to_o the_o essence_n of_o a_o church_n since_o therefore_o he_o confess_v in_o the_o place_n above_o mention_v that_o the_o idolatry_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v idolatry_n of_o a_o undue_a object_n he_o make_v her_o guilty_a of_o a_o idolatry_n inconsistent_a with_o the_o essence_n of_o a_o true_a church_n again_o dr._n st._n seem_v to_o suppose_v that_o a_o idolatry_n which_o bring_v in_o a_o multiplicity_n of_o god_n be_v destructive_a to_o the_o essence_n of_o a_o church_n and_o why_o because_o it_o be_v destructive_a at_o least_o by_o consequence_n and_o mediate_o to_o a_o fundamental_a point_n of_o religion_n viz._n the_o unity_n of_o the_o godhead_n since_o therefore_o the_o idolatry_n he_o father_n upon_o we_o be_v destructive_a at_o least_o mediate_o to_o this_o fundamental_a point_n the_o honour_n due_a only_o to_o god_n be_v not_o to_o be_v give_v to_o a_o mere_a creature_n assent_v unto_o even_o by_o pagan_n it_o must_v be_v inconsistent_a with_o the_o be_v of_o a_o church_n for_o a_o error_n destructive_a to_o any_o fundamental_a point_n of_o religion_n whatever_o be_v destructive_a to_o the_o be_v of_o a_o church_n as_o have_v be_v demonstrate_v yea_o a_o idolatry_n accompany_v with_o the_o acknowledgement_n of_o one_o only_a god_n such_o be_v the_o idolatry_n he_o impute_v to_o we_o may_v 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