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church_n	apostle_n	authority_n	doctrine_n	4,352	5	5.8491	4	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A35730	The foure cardinall-vertues of a Carmelite-fryar observed by Sir Edvvard Dering, knight and baronet ; and by him sent backe againe to their author Simon Stocke, alias Father Simons, alias Iohn Hunt, alias Anonymus Eremita.	Dering, Edward, Sir, 1598-1644.	1641 (1641)	Wing D1109; ESTC R31322	25,900	66

of necessity be fruitlesse in being made unto his so rude and so barren answer These two reasons do as I conceive justly warrant my delay Whilst thus I am necessitated a judicious and true friend upon sight of the wretched and despicable babling in the rescript of Anonymus gave me this advice That the Priests answer being worthy of nothing but contempt and being too tedious for a present reply especially in the middest of better avocations I should publish this Quadrilogus which I formerly sent unto him and thereby provoke him to thrust forth his elegant answer whereupon the world without more lines may judge on which side Truth and Modesty do dwell I have followed this Counsell Here is my adventure in way of challenge I expect that he should be at charge to publish his own answer and then presuming on better leisure I hope in a reply upon his babling to shew that the Poets contempt will be a just Encomion for this old Fryer O solâ fortem garrulitate senem 20. March 1640. SIR EDWARD DERING TO Anonymus-Eremita YOU challenged me to set down in writing three propositions which being by me performed you then fled from your own undertaking here they are again 1. The Pope hath by divine right a supremacy of power in matters Spirituall which ought to be universally beleeved and obeyed as of Faith 2. The Romish Masse is a Sacrifice both proper and propitiatory for the present and the absent for the living and the dead 3. Our blessed Saviour and his Apostles did teach the same points of doctrine which the Church of Rome doth affirm and which are denyed by the Reformed Church Prove and maintain these positions with clear and full authority and hear I give you my hand that you shall then have my heart unto the Roman Church EDVVARD DERING REcensui Tractatum hunc doctum admodum acutum Orthodoxum eúmque dignissimum judico qui in honorem Authoris Antagonistae verò infamiam in utilitatem publicam typis mandetur April 13. 1641. Johannes Hansley R. P. Epis. Lond. Capel Domest. CHAP. I. Of Fraud THAT which last came shall be first served The Treatise last sent unto me by you shall be first accounted unto Nor will I pick out a word or a sentence to cavill on but fairly and entirely take all your discourse therein concerning one single and severall subject That which I shall heer first insist upon is your particular Caveat concerning Altars Being indeed a severall Chapter and the whole discourse you have upon that particular subject Give me leave to divide your Chapter into parts that so I may with lesse confusion give account to each severall Section In your Treaties inscribed A Caveat for a friend This following is your tenth Chapter Anonymus A THeir Judge saith B We Christians have an Altar whereof they have not power to eat who serve the Tabernacle Heb. 13. 10. C Again If thou offer thy hoast at the Altar and there thou remember that thy brother hath some thing against thee leave there thy offering before the Altar Matth. 5. 24. And so say Romane Catholikes D Protestants either have none or make it a thing indifferent either to have or not to have as appeareth by their practice And these who have make not use of them according to the institution of Altars For the use of an Altar is to make sacrifice upon the Altar being the proper place of the sacrifice as witnesseth King Edward and the Protestant Lords of His Councell in their Letters for the taking down of Altars and setting up of the Table in stead thereof in Iohn Fox Pag. 1520. Sir Edward Dering A THeir Iudge saith c. meaning the holy Scripture thus you begin six Chapters together proceed scoff on We thank you for such scornes And with due reverence do acknowledge this our divine infallible Iudge wondering that any Christian should decline or sleight the written law of Christ our Saviour Go on to disclaime for your Iudge what the holy Ghost hath written Renounce your part and deny the Iudge to be competent or sufficient Did you not forget Saint Paul who telleth Timothy that The holy Scriptures are able to make him wise unto salvation and that they are profitable for doctrine for reproof for correction for instruction in righteousnesse that the man of God may be perfect But belike you finde that this Iudge is ours in a double right one is the due of his place The other is because he may justly be called our Iudge for that he voteth for us and against you But notwithstanding that you would pull down holy Scriptures from the Bench yet learned men on your side do hold them there whether you like thereof or not Learned Andradius writing against Remnitius in defence of your Tridentine Councel lib. 2. plainly acknowledgeth the holy Scripture for Iudge Scripturam Sacram Controversiarum Iudicem constituimus We do constitute the holy Scripture Iudge of Controversies He could not say lesse yet for fear he had said too much he denieth this Iudge to contain all things necessary so would have us to take it for a Iudge and no Iudge or in brief for an imperfect or insufficient Iudge A Iudge but such a one as faileth in things necessary O the wisedome of God how that must suffer by the impious folly of men God himself hath given us a Iudge But Andradius with others as Dominicus Ba●nes Melchior Canus Cardinall Hosius Doctor Stapleton c. say that this Iudge is deficient in things necessary to salvation Is not this plainly to accuse the wisedome of God as if he could not or his goodnesse as if he would not make our ●●dge sufficient Do not the holy Scriptures abound with some things not necessary for salvation and hath the wisedome of God left out necessaries Andradius subjoyneth again Libri Sacri praecipui sunt Controversiarum judices The holy Books are the principall Iudges of Controversie Mark how unsteady he is the Scripture is Iudge of controversies yet defective in things necessary and yet the principall Iudge of controversies Thus A double minded man is unstable in all his wayes But your more learned Bellarmine de verbo Dei saith Sacra Scriptura regula credendi certissima tutissimaque est The holy Scripture is the most safe and most certain rule of Belife and again Sacris Scripturis nihil est notius nihil certius Nothing is more known nothing more certain then the holy Scriptures If then the holy Scriptures be the most known and most infallible Rule of Faith so much do Bellarmines two places inferre If they be the judge the chief Iudge of Controversies so much Andradius two places do determine leave then your hollow and unsavory scornes and submit your self and your cause unto this holy and heavenly Iudge But I fear you had rather hold company with Piggius Ecchius Cusanus Pereonius Norris and others of your bent who