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A33770 Theophilus and Philodoxus, or, Several conferences between two friends the one a true son of the Church of England, the other faln off to the Church of Rome, concerning 1. praier in an unknown tongue, 2. the half communion, 3. the worshipping of images, 4. the invocation of saints / by Gilbert Coles. Coles, Gilbert, 1617-1676. 1674 (1674) Wing C5085; ESTC R27900 233,018 224

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testimony_n of_o the_o ancient_n that_o this_o doctrine_n have_v be_v receive_v in_o the_o church_n catholic_n from_o the_o beginning_n theoph._n i_o presume_v you_o mean_v not_o from_o the_o begin_n of_o christianity_n you_o have_v hear_v how_o the_o attemt_a of_o your_o doctor_n to_o prove_v it_o out_o of_o god_n word_n have_v be_v altogether_o unsuccessful_a and_o some_o of_o your_o doctor_n have_v confess_v that_o it_o be_v deliver_v in_o holy_a scripture_n very_o obscure_o and_o other_o have_v show_v the_o reason_n even_o the_o humility_n and_o modesty_n of_o the_o apostle_n which_o withhold_v they_o from_o publish_v this_o doctrine_n lest_o they_o shall_v appear_v to_o make_v themselves_o as_o god_n after_o their_o decease_n by_o require_v the_o people_n of_o god_n to_o make_v their_o prayer_n and_o supplication_n to_o they_o see_v therefore_o your_o doctrine_n be_v not_o sound_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n i_o can_v give_v a_o short_a answer_n unto_o your_o pretend_a usage_n of_o the_o church_n and_o testimony_n of_o the_o ancient_n that_o which_o s_n to_o augustin_n give_v to_o cresconius_n urge_v the_o authority_n of_o cyprian_a r_o i_o be_o not_o bind_v to_o the_o authority_n of_o this_o epistle_n for_o i_o do_v not_o hold_v the_o write_n of_o cyprian_n as_o canonical_a but_o judge_v of_o they_o by_o the_o canonical_a scripture_n and_o whatsoever_o be_v consonant_n to_o the_o holy_a scripture_n i_o receive_v with_o praise_n what_o agree_v not_o with_o his_o leave_n 〈…〉_o eject_v if_o you_o can_v prove_v what_o you_o have_v urge_v out_o of_o the_o canonical_a book_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o prophet_n i_o will_v not_o contradict_v but_o see_v what_o you_o have_v be_v not_o canonical_a with_o that_o liberty_n whereunto_o god_n have_v call_v we_o i_o do_v not_o receive_v his_o testimony_n who_o due_a praise_n i_o can_v never_o equal_v with_o who_o write_n i_o dare_v not_o compare_v my_o own_o who_o learning_n i_o embrace_v who_o 〈…〉_o y_fw-es i_o admire_v who_o martyrdom_n be_v venerable_a again_o s_o t_o augustin_n to_o the_o same_o effect_n elsewhere_o it_o be_v not_o sufficient_a unto_o the_o authority_n of_o faith_n and_o of_o the_o dostrine_n of_o the_o church_n to_o say_v thus_o esay_n or_o thou_o fair_a or_o he_o say_v 〈◊〉_d thus_o say_v the_o lord_n so_o the_o bless_a martyr_n gyprian_a himself_n we_o must_v not_o be_v what_o any_o one_o have_v do_v before_o we_o but_o what_o he_o who_o be_v before_o all_o age_n have_v teach_v or_o commund_v to_o be_v do_v once_o more_o i_o can_v answer_v you_o out_o of_o gratian_n to_o a_o custom_n without_o the_o word_n of_o god_n to_o back_o it_o be_v not_o t._n ●_o b_o 〈…〉_o qu●_n t_o 〈…〉_o scit_fw-la etiamsi_fw-la alia_fw-la n_o 〈…〉_o t._n se_fw-es 〈…〉_o sec_fw-la 〈…〉_o secundie_n ●hem_fw-mi qn_n 88_o art_n 5._o certaratione_fw-la nescimus_fw-la a_o sancti_fw-la vota_fw-la 〈…〉_o se_fw-es etc._n 〈…〉_o 2._o contr_n cresconium_fw-la c._n 32._o ego_fw-la huius_fw-la epistolae_fw-la etc._n etc._n erroris_fw-la 〈…〉_o do_v sine_fw-la verbo_fw-la lei_fw-it non_fw-la esse_fw-la veritatem_fw-la sed_fw-la vetustatem_fw-la erroris_fw-la truth_n but_o the_o antiquity_n of_o error_n the_o council_n of_o cartbage_n resolve_v thus_o ●_o the_o lord_n say_v in_o the_o gospel_n i_o be_o truth_n he_o say_v not_o i_o be_o castom_n phil._n can_v you_o so_o easy_o trample_v upon_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o father_n you_o have_v former_o pretend_v much_o honour_n to_o the_o venerable_a testimony_n of_o antiquity_n where_o you_o conceive_v it_o consonant_a unto_o your_o principle_n and_o now_o you_o will_v decline_v that_o touchstone_n because_o you_o know_v full_a well_o it_o be_v against_o you_o in_o this_o point_n of_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n theoph._n these_o sentence_n i_o have_v produce_v be_v of_o the_o father_n and_o see_v the_o word_n of_o god_n do_v not_o establish_v your_o doctrine_n
breviaries_n ibid._n c._n 17._o maria_fw-la matergratiae_fw-la mater_fw-la misericordiae_fw-la tu_fw-la nos_fw-la ab_fw-la host_n etc._n etc._n bellarmin_n tell_v we_o the_o church_n catholic_n in_o her_o hymn_n to_o the_o virgin_n mary_n pray_v thus_o o_o marry_o mother_n of_o grace_n mother_n of_o mercy_n do_v thou_o defend_v we_o from_o the_o enemy_n and_o and_o receive_v we_o in_o the_o hour_n of_o death_n if_o we_o may_v judge_n of_o word_n by_o their_o signification_n doubtless_o this_o prayer_n import_v more_o than_o bare_o a_o desire_n of_o her_o assistance_n by_o her_o prayer_n phil._n bellarmin_n in_o the_o same_o place_n give_v you_o a_o general_a rule_n against_o such_o sinister_a construction_n verborum_fw-la construction_n nos_fw-la non_fw-la agere_fw-la de_fw-fr verbis_fw-la at_o sensis_fw-la verborum_fw-la we_o dispute_v not_o of_o the_o word_n but_o of_o their_o sense_n now_o the_o sense_n of_o our_o church_n in_o all_o such_o petition_n be_v that_o the_o bless_a virgin_n and_o the_o saint_n by_o their_o prayer_n and_o by_o their_o merit_n will_v procure_v these_o thing_n for_o we_o theoph._n although_o this_o may_v be_v the_o sense_n of_o your_o church_n yet_o it_o be_v not_o the_o signification_n of_o the_o word_n and_o methinks_v to_o avoid_v the_o just_a occasion_n of_o scandal_n give_v to_o your_o adversary_n by_o they_o &_o the_o occasion_n of_o error_n and_o delusion_n give_v to_o your_o undiscerning_a votary_n your_o church_n shall_v have_v express_v herself_o in_o more_o inoffensive_a and_o justifiable_a term_n bellarmine_n give_v a_o 2_o do_v instance_n in_o the_o hymn_n of_o the_o apostle_n he_o say_v the_o church_n pray_v thus_o etc._n thus_o quorum_fw-la praecepto_fw-la subditur_fw-la salus_fw-la &_o languor_n omvium_n sanent_fw-la aegros_fw-la etc._n etc._n let_v the_o holy_a apostle_n unto_o who_o command_n both_o the_o welfare_n and_o languish_n of_o all_o man_n be_v submit_v let_v they_o heal_v we_o who_o be_v moral_o sick_a 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