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A49441 A treatise of the nature of a minister in all its offices to which is annexed an answer to Doctor Forbes concerning the necessity of bishops to ordain, which is an answer to a question, proposed in these late unhappy times, to the author, What is a minister? Lucy, William, 1594-1677. 1670 (1670) Wing L3455; ESTC R11702 218,889 312

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the_o scope_n of_o the_o pastor_n he_o describe_v with_o a_o great_a deal_n of_o handsome_a circumlocution_n exceed_v fine_a expression_n of_o the_o rhetorical_a persuasive_a part_n of_o a_o preacher_n the_o result_n of_o all_o which_o be_v to_o persuade_v by_o such_o argument_n as_o have_v power_n over_o the_o will_n and_o the_o affection_n as_o it_o be_v pag._n 19_o the_o teacher_n office_n be_v to_o lay_v the_o fundamental_a point_n of_o christian_a faith_n the_o principle_n of_o religion_n as_o he_o express_v it_o in_o the_o bottom_n of_o page_n 21_o and_o the_o top_n of_o 22._o these_o two_o part_n he_o make_v distinct_a office_n in_o the_o church_n both_o of_o they_o be_v roll_a elder_n as_o well_o as_o teach_n and_o both_o of_o they_o have_v power_n to_o administer_v the_o sacrament_n but_o in_o their_o preach_v the_o one_o be_v to_o bend_v his_o force_n his_o endeavour_n to_o the_o teach_v and_o inform_v the_o understanding_n the_o other_o to_o the_o persuade_v and_o move_v the_o affection_n the_o first_o he_o call_v teacher_n the_o second_o pastor_n look_v for_o a_o reason_n for_o this_o distinction_n unheard-of_a till_o of_o late_a i_o find_v none_o but_o in_o a_o reply_n to_o mr._n rutterford_n pag._n 7._o where_o it_o seem_v mr._n rutterford_n urge_v that_o these_o formal_a object_n of_o these_o two_o office_n information_n of_o the_o judgement_n and_o exhort_v be_v not_o so_o different_a as_o that_o they_o shall_v be_v incompetible_a pag._n 7._o chap._n 1._o to_o this_o he_o reply_v that_o in_o themselves_o and_o full_a breadth_n that_o be_v his_o phrase_n these_o be_v not_o so_o incompetible_a but_o look_v at_o the_o specialty_n of_o the_o gift_n that_o fit_v for_o one_o and_o which_o furnish_v for_o the_o other_o to_o attend_v main_o and_o chief_o upon_o each_o according_a to_o the_o gift_n they_o will_v prove_v inconsistent_a these_o be_v his_o word_n and_o these_o imply_v that_o where_o there_o be_v distinction_n of_o gift_n and_o they_o 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the_o objection_n answer_v 16._o 17._o the_o baptism_n institute_v by_o christ_n not_o in_o force_n till_o after_o his_o death_n 18._o whether_o baptism_n administer_v by_o layman_n be_v valid_a 29._o of_o bishop_n their_o distinction_n from_o presbyter_n 94_o first_o argument_n from_o scripture_n for_o their_o point_n 96._o the_o argument_n examine_v 97._o and_o answer_v 99_o the_o exception_n that_o titus_n be_v a_o evangilist_n but_o not_o a_o bishop_n answer_v 99_o objection_n for_o their_o point_n from_o act_n 20._o 28._o answer_v 101._o c_o a_o outward_a call_v necessary_a to_o a_o minister_n 129._o this_o call_n have_v a_o moral_a not_o a_o physical_a influence_n 130._o the_o character_n leave_v after_o ordination_n 132._o the_o communion_n institute_v by_o our_o saviour_n 18._o the_o apostle_n minister_n of_o it_o 19_o 20._o institute_v before_o our_o saviour_n death_n 20._o 21._o mutual_n covenant_v of_o the_o saint_n give_v not_o the_o be_v to_o a_o visible_a church_n 157._o what_o this_o covenant_n be_v explicit_fw-la or_o implicit_a 159._o the_o reason_n for_o it_o answer_v 159_o etc._n etc._n other_o argument_n answer_v 165._o 167_o &c_n &c_n d_o the_o election_n of_o the_o seventy_o disciple_n 11._o the_o difference_n betwixt_o they_o and_o the_o apostle_n 96._o deacon_n as_o afterward_o use_v in_o the_o church_n not_o institute_v act_n 6._o 37_o 38._o argument_n prove_v this_o 39_o 40._o the_o oppose_a argument_n answer_v 43._o some_o of_o the_o first_o deacon_n preacher_n 40._o what_o the_o office_n of_o a_o deacon_n 45._o e_o of_o lay-elder_n 59_o what_o a_o lay-elder_n be_v in_o the_o disciplinarian_a sense_n 60._o no_o such_o elder_n in_o scripture_n 61._o place_n of_o scripture_n urge_v for_o they_o answer_v ibid._n three_o argument_n of_o mr._n thomas_n hooker_n for_o lay-elder_n answer_v 62_o &c_n &c_n 69._o 74._o 75._o st._n ●auls_v elder_a signify_v but_o one_o office_n 66._o st._n ambrose_n word_n urge_v for_o lay-elder_n expound_v 86._o etc._n etc._n the_o design_n of_o make_v lay-elder_n 88_o what_o the_o word_n especial_o import_v 1_o tim._n 5._o 17._o 68_o what_o a_o evangelist_n be_v 106._o g_o gift_v man_n may_v preach_v if_o licence_v by_o the_o bishop_n otherwise_o not_o 84_o 85._o h_o what_o double_a honour_n signify_v 1_o tim._n 5._o 17._o 68_o mr._n thomas_n hooker_n opinion_n concern_v deacon_n examine_v 45_o 46._o rom._n 12._o 8._o expound_v against_o he_o 47_o 48._o etc._n etc._n his_o deacon_n enforce_v from_o this_o place_n of_o scripture_n confute_v 53._o the_o first_o confutation_n of_o mr._n thomas_n hooker_n out_o of_o this_o text._n 54_o 55._o his_o second_o argument_n refute_v 56._o his_o three_o argument_n refute_v 57_o his_o first_o argument_n from_o reason_n refute_v 57_o his_o second_o and_o three_o argument_n from_o reason_n answer_v 58._o another_o argument_n answer_v 59_o mr._n thomas_n hooker_n distinction_n of_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n refute_v 90_o etc._n etc._n i_o episcopal_a jurisdiction_n prove_v 115_o l_o what_o labour_v in_o the_o word_n import_v 1_o tim._n 5._o 17._o 67._o 86._o m_o what_o the_o word_n minister_n signify_v 1._o the_o definition_n of_o a_o minister_n 2._o the_o definition_n explain_v 3._o etc._n etc._n the_o power_n to_o be_v a_o minister_n must_v come_v from_o god_n 3._o 6._o motion_n be_v to_o relation_n 208_o 209._o o_o touch_v ordination_n 121._o mr._n thomas_n hooker_n definition_n of_o ordination_n confute_v 122._o what_o ordination_n be_v 123._o ordination_n not_o before_o election_n 224._o man_n may_v be_v ordain_v without_o the_o election_n of_o the_o people_n 125._o whether_o ordination_n give_v all_o the_o essential_o to_o a_o officer_n 128._o of_o pastoral_a ordination_n 140._o p_o st._n peter_n have_v no_o great_a power_n give_v he_o by_o christ_n than_o the_o other_o apostle_n 28._o the_o chief_a argument_n for_o his_o superiority_n answer_v ibid._n a_o vindication_n of_o our_o common_a prayer-book_n in_o the_o number_n of_o the_o sacrament_n 131._o a_o digression_n concern_v preach_v 76._o what_o preach_v be_v 78._o to_o what_o preach_v every_o presbyter_n be_v bind_v 80._o the_o peculiar_a interest_n a_o presbyter_n have_v in_o preach_v 82._o who_o be_v authorize_v to_o preach_v 83._o what_o a_o true_a presbyter_n be_v 89._o a_o power_n be_v leave_v by_o christ_n to_o some_o man_n whereby_o they_o communicate_v power_n to_o other_o 156._o r_o relation_n may_v be_v the_o principle_n of_o action_n 211._o one_o relation_n may_v be_v the_o foundation_n of_o another_o 242._o what_o rule_v well_o import_v 1_o tim._n 5._o 17._o 67._o a_o the_o apostle_n only_o entrust_v with_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n 29_o 30._o other_o apostle_n beside_o the_o twelve_o 31_o 32_o 33._o the_o reason_n of_o it_o 33._o the_o apostolical_a power_n extend_v to_o all_o the_o world_n 34._o how_o the_o apostolical_a power_n be_v communicate_v 35._o how_o the_o apostolical_a power_n be_v communicate_v to_o particular_n 36._o b_o second_o argument_n for_o parity_n answer_v 102._o three_o argument_n for_o it_o answer_v 104._o four_o argument_n concern_v jurisdiction_n answer_v 106._o a_o argument_n from_o ordination_n by_o presbyter_n answer_v 107._o a_o argument_n out_o of_o st._n hierome_n answer_v 108._o bishop_n succeed_v the_o apostle_n in_o all_o that_o be_v apostolical_a though_o not_o in_o their_o extraordinary_a endeavour_n 142._o baptism_n not_o the_o form_n which_o constitute_v a_o church-member_n but_o no_o visible_a act_n by_o which_o he_o be_v make_v a_o member_n 171._o mr._n thomas_n hooker_n argument_n against_o this_o opinion_n answer_v 171_o 172_o etc._n etc._n baptism_n have_v all_o thing_n necessary_a to_o a_o real_a relation_n 219._o e_o episcopacy_n settle_v by_o the_o apostle_n in_o the_o church_n 111._o first_o argument_n from_o scripture_n to_o prove_v episcopacy_n 113._o a_o second_o argument_n to_o prove_v it_o 114._o the_o revelation_n of_o st._n john_n assort_v episcopacy_n 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clear_v 187._o what_o