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A18004 A discourse Wherein is plainly proued by the order of time and place, that Peter was neuer at Rome. Furthermore, that neither Peter nor the Pope is the head of Christes Church. Also an interpretation vpon the second Epistle of S. Paul to the Thessalonians, the second chapter. Seene and alowed according to the order appointed.; Discourse. Wherein is plainly proved by the order of time and place, that Peter was never at Rome. Carlile, Christopher, d. 1588? 1572 (1572) STC 4655; ESTC S107558 88,721 116

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heauen confusion neyther shalbée nombred amonge the seruauntes of god Hierome sayeth that wheresoeuer a man be Bishop whether at Rome Engubie Constantinople Rhegij Alexandria Thebes or Guarmaria the office is all one the merite all one and degrée all one Who soeuer sayeth Gregorie calleth himselfe the vniuersall priest or desireth to bée called so is a foreronner of Antichrist reade Gregorie Epistola 76.78.79.83.92.194 Here endeth the first Discours THE SECOND DISCOVRS wherein is proued that neyther Peter nor the Pope is the head of Christes Church AS wée ha●e hitherto proued in the former Oration or discourse that Peter was not at Rome So let vs in this seconde Treatise conclude that neyther hée neyther the Pope neyther any of his Successoures is the heade of the Churche neyther the Church or Seate of Rome to bée preferred before others As out of the head and brayne which is the seate of the senses whereof ryseth all knowledge as the Philosophers and Phisitians write and also as of synowes wherewith the partes of the body are knit and coupled togither procéedeth the lyfe vitall and all mouinge Euen so from our head Christ the fountaynes of grace are deryued and flowe to water our soules the synowes and sensible doctrine to instruct the mynde and the spirit of regeneration to renewe the whole man As the heade and brayne minister too the whole body féeling and moouing so is Christ the head of distributing to euery man seuerall gyftes of the Spirit Hée that is the head of the church which is the body of Christ must néedes gyue lyfe spirite moouing b●eing senses féeling vnderstanding grace and all gyftes of the holy ghost but the Pope can gyue none of these Therefore the Pope is not the heade of the church Hée that can not forgyue synnes is not the heade of the Churche The Pope cannot forgyue synnes Ergo hée is not the heade of the church ▪ Solus Deus condonat peccata Onely GOD forgyueth sinne The Pope is not God Ergo hée forgyueth no sinne As the man is the head of the Wooman so is Christ the heade of the church This Church are all the faythfull of all ages the faithfull before the floode the faythfull after the floode The Faythefull before Christ the faythfull after christ If a wooman should haue twoo Husbandes to her head were shée an honest woman were shée not an Adultres were shée not to bée diuorced Ergo if the Romishe Church● haue twoo heades Chryste and the Pope Shée is a Strumpette an Harlotre a Curtesane and the Churche of Satan Moreouer Christe is zeleous ouer his congregation hée will haue no fellowes hée is sufficient alone hée néedeth not the Popes ayde The Popes head may be dronke Christes is alwayes sobre his franitique Christes perfect his phantasticall Christes substanciall his feble Christes stronge his mortall Christes immortall Hée that maketh him self the head of the Church hée must make him self her husband but what an husband is the Pope Surely an adulterer if hée presume too take an other mans wyfe Is not the Church Christes wyfe Thā is shée not the Popes because that shée can not haue two husbands at once If hée bée an adulterous head ergo hée is Antechrist Howe coulde Peter bée Pope at Roome when as it was not lawfull nor permitted to teache but priuatlie in houses Where was his authoritie where were bothe his swoordes Temporall Spirituall Neyther had hée the Temporall to represse Nero his tyrannie neyther the Spirituall to rule the Clergie Was not Paule as good as Peter Did hée not resist him to his face Was Paule inferiour to any of the Apostles Howe chaunceth it that Peter could not rule them that put him to deathe where was the mightie power of M. Pope Is hée the head of the Church whom Christ calleth Sathan Is not that Satanas church which Satan ruleth But Peter is called Satan Ergo that church which Peter ruleth is the church of Satan But saye the Papistes Our Churche is founded vpon Peter Then is the foundation vitious the buylding odyous the pillers which are the colledge of Cardinalles very rotten and corrupt and the pallace of Prelates pestilent and all that they do beastlie sensuall carnall of Antechrist For Christ sayeth to Peter Awaye Satan hence Dyuell for so signifyeth the Hebrewe woorde thou offendest mée thou sauorest of earthly thinges and not of heauenly If the head be Dyuelish what are the members what is the body The Romishe churche is the body is this churche without spotte or wrincle is this of God is this the piller of truthe is this the Kingdome of God Naye it is as Petrarche writeth the sinke of sinne and pudle of Godes yre A denne of Wolfes Lyons Foxes Dragons and Tigres Peter sauored of earthly thinges and sought earthly thinges and so doo the Popes Did not Peter moue Christ that they might make in the mount where Christ was gloriously transformed thrée tentes hée sauored of none other thing then of earth And did Pope Leo any other thinge when hée answered Peter Bembus a learned Cardinall alledging a sentence out of the Ghospell to him that it was knowen well ynough in all ages how much that fable of Christ did profit the Popes and their successours and adherentes And that ye shall vnderstand that the Church is neyther founded vppon Peter nor of any other man sainct Paule sayeth that Christ is only the foundacion And Christ when the Apostles did stryue for superioritie y preeminencie sayd to them reprouing their ambition that hée that presumed to be highest should be lowest and a minister too the rest Which woordes declare that Christ woulde haue no superioritie amonge his Apostles Did not Peter deny Christ thrée tymes Is hée woorthie too bée the head and steward of his family that denyeth his Master that sweareth that hée neuer knewe him Such are Peters Successors for they sweare that they neuer knew such a beggerly body as Christ was For saye they Christ was poore wee bee riche Christ a begger and had nothing wee haue the whole worlde And it is prophecied by Dauid of vs Omnes subiecisti sub pedibus eius oues boues pecora campi To the Pope God hathe layd all thinges vnder his feete sheepe oxen and all cattell Peter did fyght and cut of Malcus eare the Popes cut of the Emperours heades fyght with them subdue them and treade vppon them Theire foundation is the sword fyre fagotte tyrannie and all iniquitie This sword Christ bad Peter put vp they drawe it and shaketh it ouer all Nations Where proue they that Peter was the cheifest of the Apostles where proue they him too bée the best or such a one as all the other shoulde obey was hee the Uicegerat of Christ can he doo all that Christ can doo who was reproued of Paule the least and lowest of all the
Apostles where was his swoord than where was his courageous stomacke Did not little Paule dryue great Peter awaye Wherfore yee see that the Pope founding his authoritie ambition vayne glory Supremacie dignitie and superioritie vppon Peter must needes fall it must needes bee grounded vppon errours and iniquitie That which hath twoo heades is monstruous but if Christ bée head as hée is the only head and the Pope also than is it a monstruous body But more monstruous is that body that hath thrée or foure heades for at once there were thrée or foure Popes together euery one called him self head Which of them was the head let them answer if they can if they can not let the head fall with the body If Rome make the Pope holy if the seate where the Pope is can not erre if his church bée catholique and vniuersall how chaunced it that at one time in the yeare of Christ 1411. Clement was Pope at Auenion in Fraunce Pope Vrbane at Roome Benedict the .xiii. succeded Clement at Auenion in Fraunce Gregorie the .xii. was the Pope at Rome Iohn Pope at Bononia and all deposed in the Councell of Constance One of these reuiled an other blasphemed an other cursed excommunicated calling one an other Antechrist Traytor Murtherer Sonnes of Beliall Seruantes of Satan Heretiques Scismatiques and Cruell Tyrauntes If the presence of Peter make the place too bée the best and of most authoritie why was not Hierusalem the chief Cittie the highe See and the Metropolitane of the whole worlde For there Peter preached first and conuerted many thousandes And ye can no● reade of one that hée conuerted at Roome when hée was neuer there as the former discours proueth Where gaue Christ and at what tyme the authoritie and prerogatiue of ●osinge and ●ynding Hée gaue it before his death and in Iurye than by good reason that tyme should bée better than this Iury holyer than Roome for many hundreth yeares after was Roome established Now bycause neyther tyme nor place is estemed among Christians but fayth in Iesu Christ there is the Church where Christians woorshippe him in veritie Then Rome is not too bée preferred before the whole world neyther a Cittie before Citties a Towne before Shy●es a small parte of Europe before Asia Africa and America Besides this why is not Antioche Pontus Galatia Cappadocia Bithynia Asia Egypte and Babylon too bee preferred seeing that there hée preached there hée planted there hée grafted there hee did sowe there hée watered there hée taught and instructed and brought the people from errour to truthe from Superstition to Religion from Tyrannie to Clemencie from Fraude too Synceritie from Dissimulacion and Hypocrisye too Ueritie from Auarice too Frankenesse from Wickednesse too Uertue from Earthly thinges too Heauenly thinges from the admiration of worldly pompe too the contemplation of heauenly thinges from Hell too Heauen from misery too felicitie and from earthly possession too the inheritaunce of Iacob too the bosome of Abraham too the possession of Isaac too the let of Danyell and too the Paradise of the blessed thief NOWE I haste too the confutacion of their Argumentes whereby they go about too proue that Peter and the Pope is the head of the Church But first I will declare a true history from tyme too tyme and that breifly what they were that were afore the Pope and howe the Churche of Rome came too such a prerogatiue and dignitie Christ him self disputed and reasoned with the Doctoures opposing aunswering and con●uting them So did Iohn the Baptiste so did the Apostles so did Stephan so Aquila Apollo and all other that had any of theise giftes which are repeted in sainct Paule And this order of euery man too vtter his gifte continued vntoo the tyme of Theodoret and vntoo the tyme of Gregorie the ninth Pope of that name as appereth by his lawe for hée made lawes that no Laye man should preache of whatsoeuer degrée hée were Noble man Gentle man and other An Elder and a Bishoppe were both one at the beginning Act. 20. vers 17.28 which two verses conferred will shewe you that there is no difference betweene an Elder and a Bishoppe The which Paule proueth and Hierom and Theodoret vpon the same chapter Paule in that place calleth Bishoppes Elders such as taughte the people and instructed them and Deacons such as prouided for the poore lyke too our Church Wardens Afterward they began too alter this order for Eusebius libro .4 .5 affirmeth that the Church was a virgin immaculate vntill the death of Iohn the Euangeliste and than errours to haue creeped in who dyed from the birth of Christ .xxv. yeares And about ● yeares after his death or before the Church began to haue one as cheef whom they called a President or one as an Ouerso●er of the people and here sayeth Beza the Deuill began to practise his peruersitie and laye the foundacion of his Tyrannye Euery Citie and Towne had a Bishoppe that taught them but emong them there was no Supremacie The Emperoures afterward which had certeyne principall Cities in euery Shyre one or more whereto all the countrie about resorted to the Law and to decide other matters gaue greater authoritie to the Bisshoppes of the Moother cities for so they were called then too the Bishoppes of other Uillages in the countrie And as they called the mother cities Metrapoleis or matrikous kathedras ▪ or meizonas poleis so dyd they call the Bishop or Minister thereof or Pastor protonton protenonta proestota or patriarchin or Metropolitin ▪ As they call the great Cities Moother Cities Moother Seates The first seates or greater Cities so did they call the priest therof or mynister or Byshop or pastour the first the chiefe the president a Patriarche or Metropolitane Wée reade in the councell of Nyce that Alexandria was chiefe ouer Egypt Lybia and Pentapolis and Antioche was chiefe ouer the countries about as Rome was in Italie Where was there any superioritie more at Rome then at Alexandria or at Antioche In the second councell holden at Constantinople it was decréed that the Bishop of Alexandria should gouerne the Cast countries that Antioche might haue that dignitie that was appointed in Nycene councell the Bishop of Thrace his countrie the Bishop of Pontus his the Bisshop of Rome Italie and so of all the rest Socrates in his historie repeteth seuerall Metropolitanes which are called Patriarches for they were booth of one Authoritie As Nectarius ouer Megapolis meaning Constantinople and Thrace Helladius ouer Pontus Basile ouer Cesarea of Cappadocia Otrius ouer Miletene in Armenia Amphilochius in Asia at Iconiam Optimus at Antioche of Pisidia Timothe to Alexandria of Egypt Pelagius to Laodicia Diodorus to Tharsus Meletius to Antioche The Bishoppe of Hierusalem to Hierusalem These same Metropolitanes they called also Archebishoppes They say the false framed Epistles ascribed to Clemens and
against the hole land against the Preistes Kinges people and the mighty Princes of Iuda and such Tyrauntes Ieremy intreateth of in the end of his fystenth chapter If euery good man bée a lyuely stone as Peter him self writeth and all the congregation a Spirituall howse and the howse of God the piller and ground of truthe and lykewyse Christes own body and the fulnesse of him that filleth all thinges Than is not the Pope Cardinalles and Clergie the church and pillers in whom dwelleth no vertue Neyther Peter had any other keys than Adam Seth Noe Melchisedeck Abraam Iob Moses and all the faythfull had from the beginning The keys of the Kingdome of heauen are the opening and interpretacion of the Scripture What keye sayeth Tertullian in the .iiii. booke against Mar. had the Doctours of the Lawe saue interpretation Tertullian inuehing ageinst the Eustix affirmeth the keys to bée gyuen generally to all the which euery man whan hée departeth hence carieth with him Wherfore who so euer confesseth his sinnes repenteth and beléeueth in Christ hath these keyes wherwith hée openeth the locke and entereth intoo heauenly felicitie Euery man may bynde and loase him self Augustinus de doctrina lib. 1. cap. 8. sayeth Too binde is too perseuer in errour too procede in vyce too louse too repente him of his sinne beléeue that here in earth his sinnes shall bée forgiuen him And this is too bynd and louse The second Obiection Hée that giueth authoritie too the Church is supreme head But the Pope giueth authoritie to the church ergo hée is supreme head I deny your assumption called otherwyse the Minor. Wée proue it say they by S. Augustine who sayeth I wold not beléeue the Scriptures if the catholique church should not moue mée I answer This church that Augustine speaketh of is not the church of Rome and therfore the Pope giueth no authoritie to the church If Augustine had meaned the church of Rome then their argumēt myght haue semed to haue had a good ground But Augustine meaned the church of Christ as the Crede it self expoundeth it What is the Catholique Church The Crede answereth and interpreteth in these words A communion societie or companie of all Saincts and Godly men Nowe if Rome bée all the world and a communion of Saincts only then is it the only Church but it is neyther all the world neyther a communion of Saincts therfore it is not the Church Are shamefull synners Saincts horrible offenders Holy Augustine meaned by the Catholique Church Christ and his Disciples and the consent of all them which sawe Christ which heard him and his Disciples and therfore is it called in the common Crede of Nice the Apostolique church If Augustine did imagine that the Scriptures should take authoritie of the church it had bin an absurditie considering that there is no congregation so perfect no company so holy no men so pure which do not dayly desire God too forgyue them their offences as they forgyue them that offend against them If wée saye wée sinne not wée are lyers and there is no truth in vs. Let vs proue both by Reason which is the Lawe of Nature infixed in man Naturally and by Scripture that the Church doth take her authoritie of the Woord and not the Woord of the Church If Cleantes and other Philosophers as Tullie testifieth affirme partly by the Naturall motions of their myndes no doubt moued by inspiration that there is a GOD partly by the presciencie and foreknowledge of the thinges to comme partly by the commodities which proceede of the temperature of the ayer the plenty abundance of all thinges necessary for mans vse partly by tempestes thunder inundacions hayle lightening earthquakes stormes wonders miracles blasing starres eclipses of Sonne and Moone of the reuolution of the heauens of the constant and certein course of the fixed Starres and Planettes Than must wée confirme with Dauid and Paule that Gods power nature and diuinitie is knowen by visible thinges subiected to our senses If Dauid and Paule proue by the naturall courses of the heauens that there is a God neyther any people to bée so ignorant any Nati●n so rude any country so Barbarous which haue not heard their voyces for Dauid sayeth Their sound are gone through all the world Or as it is in the Hebrew Their rule course is knowē through all the world By a figure the sound voyce is attributed in the .19 Psal. to the heauens bycause they declare vntoo vs with their constant course mouing and other meruelous dispositions constellations and influences that there is a god And by this meanes Paule proueth the Gentyles to bée without excuse bycause they might haue knowen God by his creatures and dyd knowe but dyd not glorifye him as god By these it is euident that the heauens and Gods woounderous workes are not the causes why there is a God but God is the cause of them and they are as witnesses and testimonies that there must néedes bée a god And bycause al the Scriptures teache nothing else but God to bée the maker defender and gouerner of all wée are assured that they are the true scriptures bycause they agrée with this lawe of Nature wyth this Heauenly description and celestiall disposition wherby there is vnderstand to bée a god If Dauid and Paule prooue the diuinitie power and prouidence of God by his creatures so must wée allowe the scriptures by the same meanes bycause they differ not from the discourse Wherefore the church taketh no authoritie of it selfe but of God nor the scriptures any power of men whiche are full of erroures Wée knowe Moses Danyels Salomons Iobs woorkes and the rest of the scriptures to bée of force bycause they agrée with the rule of nature They are witnesses but no authours If a Lawyer aunswere by the Lawe hée dooth his dutie but if hée aunswere of his own brayne it is nought neyther will any man beléeue him Hée is a wicked Iudge that attributeth more to hys owne witte and will than to the lawe This doth the Pope contrarie to all the auncient Doctours and vertuous writers who affirme no man to bée beléeued onlesse hée alleadge the scriptures If an Ambassadour goe from one Prince to an other and be commaunded neyther to adde to his commission nor diminishe hée is a traytour if hée doo How much more the Pope who by his false embassage dooth not onely adde and diminishe where hee lusteth but also chaungeth peruerteth correcteth depraueth and abolissheth the Scriptures setting vppe hys owne constitutions and braynelesse Decréees The Prince to whome this Embassadour is sent cannot tell whether his commission is true or no but by conferring of the other Princes letters out of the which he must haue the truthe So must wée runne to the scriptures and trye by them whether the Pope and other impure spirits doo well in vsurping such authoritie The Church may bée a
but Christ prayed for Peter ergo Peter could not erre I deny the proposition which you call the Maior for Christ prayeth for all men as well as for Peter and also for them that persecute him ergo by your argument all men should bée head of the Church yea euen they that persecute Christ as the Pope doth Augustine wryteth that Peter figureth all Christians the vniuersall Church ergo when Christ prayed for Peter that hée should not erre hée prayed also for all Christians and for the vniuersall church that it should not erre And that this is Christes meaning ye shall vnderstand by the often fall of Peter after this prayer of Christ for hée denyed Christ thrise was also reproued of Paule after this prayer The tenth Obiection Peter féede my shéepe these woords giue too Peter a superioritie I answer that Christ did commaund Iames and Iohn with the rest of the Apostles to doo the lyke Did they not féede the shéepe of Christ also Did not Iames preache at Hierusalem and Iohn at Ephesus Moreouer Paule exhorteth the elders of Ephesus too féede the flock and church of God committed too their charge wherfore too féede Christes shéepe is as well proper too all men that haue the gift as too Peter Of this matter reade Ambrose in his pastorall The .xj. Obiection As Christ came too doo the will of his Father so must you doo the will of your mother the churche of Rome I answer that you call the church of Rome the Pope his Cardinalles but Christ calleth his church generall and not speciall a communion of Saincts and not a rable of Bishoppes as Tertullian writeth Catholique and not Priuate For Christ sayeth wheres●euer there be two or thrée gathered together in his name there is hée among them yea though they bée Laye men as Tertullian noteth Is the Pope the churches sonne or is hée her father If her sonne what a sonne is hée that vsurpeth and preferreth him self before his mother Therfore sayeth Augustine God will not acknowledge him self to be his father that will not confesse the church to be his mother If her father ergo not her child You say the Pope is the head I answer that when the Pope is cut of by death where is your head is it not dead where is the body is it not dead But the body that is the Church lyueth alwayes eyther Militant or Triumphant or rather both Ergo wée must looke for an other head that can not dye euen Christ aboue The .xij. Obiection Had not Pope Paschalis in the yeare of Christ .1100 a girdell hauing seuen keyes and seuen seales in token of his seuenfolde power according to the seuenfolde grace of the holy Ghost of binbing loosing shutting opening sealing resigning and iudging I answer that it is blasphemy to compare the Pope with the holy Ghost Is not hée Antichrist that attributeth to him self all the giftes of the holy Ghost The .xiij. Obiection No Councell may bée called without the Pope I answer to this obiection on this wyse Wée reade that Christ called the first councell willing the Apostles not too departe out of Hierusalem but to looke for the promise of the Father In the election of the seuent deacons which was the second councel Peter did not call the councell but .12 Apostles called the multitude The thyrd councel was called in the .15 of the Actes Where it apereth that Iames was the chéefe and not Peter Was the Pope called to any of these councels Nay surely they neuer knew him And many yéeres after Christ all the councels til the Pope began to rule were gathered togither by the Emperours Ki●●es princes and other magistrates The .xiiii. Obiection Omnino definimus declaramus pronūciamus omnem creaturam subesse Romano pontifici de necessitate salutis We define declare and pronounce that euery creature must be vnder the Pope of necessitie or els it cannot be saued I answer that saluation commeth nether from the East nor the west neither from Rome neither from priest prelate nor Pope but from God only Your welth and riches giue you aucthoritie you are rich in reuenues but poore in heauenly treasures Blessed bee the poore in sprite you are arrogant and presumptuous since that venym I meane riches entred into the church as the Lord Cobham sayde whom the Archebishop of Caunterburie Thomas Arundell asked what hée meaned by that venyme I meane sayd hée your Possessions Lordeshippes and Iurisdictions For than cryed an Aungell in the ayre as your owne Cronicles make mention wo wo wo Nowe euen this daye is venyme powred into the church Chryst was méeke and mercifull the Pope is proude and a Tyraunt Christ is poore and forgaue the Pope is riche and a malicious murtherer Rome is the nest of Antichrist and out of that filthie nest come out vncleane birdes Prelates Priestes Monkes Cardinalles which are the body of Antichrist and the pilde Fryers the Tayle which couer his most filthie parte For they preache lyes and therfore are the tayle behinde The xv Obiection Ieremie prophecieth of the church of Rome saying beholde I haue set thée ouer all Nations and Kingdomes to pluck vp and to breake downe and buylde and to plant I aunswere that God commaunded Ieremie to pull vp the wéedes of superstition and to pull downe all the monumentes of Idolatrie But the Pope draweth this godly sentence to the defence of his vsurped power peruerting the mynde of the holy ghost and deprauing the Text of Ieremie and by this Text hée vsurpeth that hée may pull down the Gospell and set vp his decréees roote out the truthe plante heresie or superstition as it is written of him in another place Diruit aedificat mutat quadrata rotundis The xvi Obiection Iohannes de turre cremata a holy Cardinall writeth thus Papa est Rex Regum Dominus dominantium verus Dominus totius orbis iure licet non facto The Pope is King of Kings Lord of Lordes and the true Lord of the whole world by right though not in déede And that Constantinus when hee gaue him Rome restored to him but his owne for the Pope as S. Iohn writeth of Christ in propria venit sui eum receperunt Hée came into hys owne and his owne receyued him I aunswere Is not hée Antichrist that peruerteth the Scriptures and that eyther addeth or taketh awaye but hée taketh awaye Non and attributeth the Texte to him selfe whiche vtterly peruerteth the Text. Ergo hée is Antichrist What a presumptuous Prelate is hée that calleth himselfe King of Kinges and Lord of Lordes If yée reade the letter sent to Cardinal Poole by Stox●ye Bishop of London and Tunstall Bishop of Durham and the booke of Obedience written by Stephan Gardner Bishoppe of Wynchester which all were ranck Papistes ye shall vnderstand that they proue that the Pope is not the heade of the Church
The sayd Poole dyd saye that Zuinglius opinion in the Sacrament was most probable which hée could bée content to followe if the Church of Rome had not decréeed the contrarie The 17. Obiection None hath power ageynst the Pope no more then the Axe ageynst the Hewer I aunswere that hée maye well bée compared to a Hewer which by his Axes and cruell tyrauntes hewe downe the good tymber and if hée could would cut off the Emperours and Princes neckes The 18. Obiection You heretiques obiect that the Canon Lawe sayeth that Balaam when hée was reproued of his Asse figureth the Pope and Prelates and the Asse their subiectes Ergo saye you heretiques the Pope may bée reproued of his subiectes but that is no example to bée followed For it pleaseth not our holy father to bée Balaam or his Asse I aunswere that if yée admitte other partes of the Canon Lawe why will yée not admitte this Dooth Balaam signifye Prelates Surely your own Lawe subuerteth it selfe For whether was Balaam or his Asse wyser If his Asse as shée was in déed then are the Popes subiectes wyser For the law sayeth that the Asse signifye them The 19. Obiection The Pope may not bée accused of any cryme niether of murther neither adultery neyther symonie or such lyke I aunswere Is not murther contrarie to the sixte commaundement Is not adulterie ageynst the seuenth And theft ageinst the eight And Symonie an offence ageynst the holy ghost And other vyces ageynst holesome doctrine Besydes this neyther murther nor adulterie shall enter into the kingdome of God. The 20. Obiection Hée that disobeyeth mée is as much to bée cursed as hée that denieth the Omnipotencie of God. I aunswere that this is the voyce of Antichrist and therfore not woorthie to bée aunswered The 21. Obiection It maye séeme well verifyed of mée that was spoken of Christ Psalm 8. Omnia subiecisti sub pedibus eius oues boues vniuersa pecora campi volucres coeli pisces maris Thou hast subdewed all things vnder his féete Shéepe Oxen and all cattell of the field the birdes of heauen and the fishes of the sea I aunswere Is not hée the child of perdition that chalengeth that which was proper to Christe and compareth him selfe wyth God 2. Thess. 2. ver 4. They saye hée is all in all and can doo all that God can doo Claue non errante Doo you not vnderstande by Oxen the Iewes and Heretiques by cattell Paganes by shéepe Emperours Princes and Prelates by birdes the Aungelles and Potentates of heauen ouer whom hée hath power and whom hée doth excell in foure pointes in Iurisdiction in administration of the Sacramentes in knowledge and in reward By the fishes of the sea are meaned the soules of purgatorie as Gregorie the Pope dyd deliuer the Emperour Traiane out of hell The 22. Obiection The Popes law sayeth that if any of his Clergie should bée found embracing a woman it must bée expounded and presupposed that hée doth it to blesse hir I aunswere that wée may not onely absteyne from dooing of euill but also from all suspicion of euill The 23. Obiection The Pope in his supremacie is Abell in gouernement the Arche of Noe in Patriarchdome Abraham in order Melchisedech in dignitie Aaron in authoritie Moses in seate Iudiciall Samuell in zeale Helias in méeknesse Dauid in power Peter in vnction Christ. I aunswere the Pope cannot bée Abel for the Pope persecuteth and Abell was persecuted The Arche figureth the Mystical body of Christ but the Pope presumeth to bée the head Ergo hée is not the Arche Abraham gaue Tithes the Pope receyueth ergo hée is not Abraham Melchisedech hée is not for none is after the order of Melchisedech but Christ onely As Paule proueth euidently But the Pope is not Christ Ergo not Melchisedech Moreouer Melchisedech is without father or mother beginninge or ending the Pope is not Aaron ruled not ouer Kings the Pope ruleth ouer the whole world Ergo hée is not Aaron Moses ruled ouer Iurie the Pope ouer Asia Africa Europe America heauen Angels hell damned soules and the poore wretches of purgatorie Ergo c. Samuell graunted his authoritie to a securall Prince euen to Saul the pope denieth it ergo he is not Samuell Helias killed the priests of Baall the Pope promoteth suche like ergo hée is not Helias Dauid forgaue his enemies the pope reuengeth ergo he c. The Emperour Nero persecuted Peter as they write but the Pope persecuteth Emperours ergo c. Christ was anoynted of the holy ghost the Pope of men ergo he is not Christ. The 24. Obiection We haue a place out of Dauid Psal. 19. ver 4. say the Papistes which no heretique can deny Their sound is gone thorowgh the whole world In omnem terram exiuit sonus eorum The sound of our holy father and of his successours is gone through the world his pardones his legates his belles his bulles his commissions his grace his power his prerogatiue his athoritie is in euery corner of the earth I answere that this place of Dauid proueth that the merueylous workes of God as the Starres the Moone the Sun and the descryption of the heauenly bodies declare that ther is a God and bycause that Dauid expresseth the matter more effectually in his naturall toung thus he sayeth Hashamaim mesapperim Cheuod el oumaguas hiadeue magid harachiang tom leiom iabbiang omer velaiel lelaiela iecaue daguath En omer veen debarim beli nishmaug colam Be cal haharets iatsa cauam ou bictse tebel nullehem lashemesh sham ohel bahem Ve hu Cerhathā iotse mecuppatho iashis che gibbor larats orac mictse hashamaim motsao ou to couphato gual chet sotham ve en iustar me canematho Hitherto I haue repeted confuted althogh they nede no confutation they were so falsely alleged some obiections although not al which they collect out of the Scriptures or out of other probable authors Now I will note certein such absurdities as they bring out of their lawes decrées decretals out of such as haue for lucre promotiō for flatterie bestowed their time in vttering absurdities and such absurdities as do more effectually ouerthrowe deface their dooings then any of our answers or confutations can These I thought good to signifie least that any man should thinke that the tyme is euyll bestowed in writing them worse in reading and worst of all in printing Ye shall therefore vnderstand that there is nothing so abhominable nothing so absurde so vnreasonable and contrarie to all sense whiche they dare not bothe speake write printe aduouche and also defend As for example What say they though Iulius the second Pope dyd throwe Peters keyes into Tyber and swore an horribe othe that séeing they would profite nothing hée would trye what Paules swoord could doo And what though Iulius the thirde blasphemed for his
For where it is in Iohn that Christ by his death should ouercom death hell and all the world hée applieth it to the Pope of whom Iohn did not once dreame onlesse hée prophecied of him amongs other Antechristes in his Epistles whom hée there describ●th And as for the place of Luke it is to be vnderstanded of Ciuill and temporall Magistrates and not of Spirituall and Mysticall inu●ntoures of Iniquities and so vnderstandeth Chrysostom Origen and Theodoret vpō the .xiij. chapter of S. Paule to the Romanes prouing that all Bishopes such as wée call Spirituall men must needes bée vnder the Iurisdiction of Ciuill Magistrates obey them and paye them Tribute Besides this this Iames proueth as Augustinus de Ancona did .lxxx. yeares before him that the Pope had not only authoritie ouer all Kinges and Emperours that were Christend but also ouer Turkes Paymins bycause that Christ gaue his full authoritie too the Pope when hée ascended that Iuditiary power for these are his termes ouer euery creature because that hée left the Pope both the keyes Temporall and Spirituall The sixth Obiection Hée is the head of the Church that hath twoo keyes the one too open Heauen gates to his friendes the other to shutte out his ennemies And hée hath thrée Crownes bycause that hée is a Kinge a Cesar and a Bishoppe or rather bycause bée hath authoritie in Heauen Hell and Purgatorie or els as Gregorius Doctor Hispanus did preache in Cambredge hée sayd that the Pope was counted in Spayne the Father the Sonne and the holy Ghost that was signified by his thrée crownes Moreouer in euery yeare of Iubile hée hath a golden hamer wherwith hée knocketh at the gates of Paradise Is this no preeminence is not hée the head that hath this authoritie I graunte that the flattering Glosers of the Canon lawe wryte such thinges but they are too foolish too bée credited too false and absurd too bée approued too ridiculous too bée aduouched and to detestable to bée admitted The 7. Obiection Hée that hath both the temporall and spirituall swoorde must néedes bée the head of the church but the Pope hath bothe Ergo hée is the head of the church I denie the Minor wée proue it thus Doo you not reade that Boniface the eight Pope of that name came out in a solemne feast daye in the apparel of a Bishop as gloriously as euer was Aaron with the spirituall swoord to frame the Spiritualtie withall And on an other feast day hée came out in the apparel of the Emperour with great pompe and glorie with a naked swoord shaking it and saying This is my swoord to correct the Temporall withall yea euen Kinges Princes and the Emperour I aunswere that this hée dooth by this rule Sic volo sic iubio stat pro ratione voluntas For that hée dyd without reason or authoritie The 8. Obiection Is not hée the head of the church that is aboue Kings Cesars and Councelles and aboue the whole world Innocent 9. quest 3. gloss ibi vlt. ext de elect significasti The 9. Obiection And though all the worlde should gyue sentence ageynst the Pope notwithstanding his sentence must stand bycause that hée maye dispense with all thinges Iud. Glossat de Capell Papa si vult c. The 10. Obiection The Pope is aboue all Councelles and Statutes de elect cap. signif I aunsw●re If his authorities bée aboue councels then councelles bée vayne and néede not when as wée may goe to the head and spring who is aboue eyther councelles or Lawes For you say that all the lawes are in the chest of the Popes brest But wée credit not these sayinges bycause they are made by Popes without authoritie eyther of Gods woorde or of olde Doctors Wherefore this is that Antichrist that is described in the Reuelation cap. 13. cap. 17. cap. 18. The 11. Obiection Hée that hath the same authoritie that Peter had is the heade of the church But the Pope hath the same authoritie that Peter had Ergo the Pope is the head of the church I denie the Maior for Peter was not the head of the church nor any better then the other of the Apostles Moreouer Peter was a meere man and a meere man was not the head of a spirituall church The 12. Obiection Is not hée aboue all that can dispence with the law of nature with Moses with the olde Testament with the new Testamēt with Christ Peter Paule and the rest of the Apostles I aunswere that none doth so but ▪ Antichrist For of Antichrist Paule writeth so in the second epistle to the Thessalonians the second chapter ver 4. But you say the Pope doth so Ergo the Pope is Antichrist The 13 Obiection There may no man Iudge of the the Popes dooinges neyther the Clergie neyther Kinges neyther Emperours ▪ Shal the Iudge of all bée iudged of any Is it not knowen through all the world that the church of Rome doth iudge all the worlde and it may bée iudged of none who dare dispute of the Popes dooinges who doubteth of the Popes holynesse who is in such authoritie If hée lacke goods déedes or any other thing it is ynough for him to trust in the predecessours of that place These blasphemies answereth Paule in the second to the Thessalonians second chapter ver 4. where hée writeth that this Antichrist maketh hym selfe God. The xiiii Obiection Remundus rufus a noble defendor of the holy Sea of Rome reasoneth thus the Pope is the cheife because he is the first in tyme reuerence and power In time for Peter was at Rome the fyrste Pope in reuerence for who is too be reuerenced more then he in power what Bishop what Prelate what Monarche is to be compared to him I answere to the firste that Peter was neuer at Rome and therefore was neither firste Pope nor last at Rome moreouer Paule was at Rome before him by the testimoni of their owne wryters And Peter was no bishop ergo no bishop of Rome Peter was an Apostle and no bishop A bishop kept in a certain place an Apostle went aboue euery where As for his reuerence what reuerence should the Pope haue aboue others if he wil be first hée must be last as Christ writeth As concerning his power what is it Who gaue it to him He is or ought to be a seruaunt no lorde a minister no maister a member of the body and not the head What if Rome were vtterly destroyed by the Turke as it may be and the Popes name glory dignitie and memory cleane extinguished where should the Romish church be where should bée all hir decrées should not all bée vtterly abolished shall not Christ destroy him with the sprite of his mouth The .xv. Obiection Do you not remember what Nicolaus the first Pope of that name did wryte He sayed and also determined that no christian magistrats should haue any
power aboue the Pope bicause that hée is called god as Antonius writeth tit 16. If no magistrate haue iurisdiction ouer him if no man may appeach him if he be god is he not worthy to be the head of the Church I graunt that he taketh vpon him all these tytles and so the deuel would haue done who moued Christ to sitte downe and worship him and hée would gyue to him the whole world Wherfore hée is the Abomination of desolation the childe of perdition Behemoth Bel Beliall a Dogge a Dragon a Traytour the Deuell a Théefe an Idoll a Wolfe a Serpent Leuiathan The 16. Obiection The place nor the Pope cannot erre but onely in that that hée is man but in that that hée is Christes Uicegerent hée cannot erre how saye you by this cracke mée this nutte And although that Peter Bembus calleth Alexander the sixte a murtherer and likewise Iulius the third yet wée protest that if Bembus had ben learned in our Canons and Gloses hée would not haue written so I maruayle what men meane to speake so ageynst our holy Father séeing hée can make of nothing something of iniurie iustice potest facere de nihilo aliquid de iniusticia iusticiam mutare quadrata rotundis Pauor post hoc in c. The Pope calleth himselfe to witnesse bycause there is none greater by whom hée may sweare Though Paule writeth and willeth that a Bishoppe should bée without faulte notwithstanding the Pope may dispence with him though he be an vnthrift a Ruffyan a lyer a théef a coniurer a periured man suche like Geminianus lib. 8. cap. 49. Iesu good Lord what and howe mightie a Prelate is our holy father the Pope hath not hée authoritie ouer the Aungelles in heauen and also ouer the damned soules in hell as Petrus Costus reporteth I aunswere that all these sayings are full of iniquitie and rather to bée punished by the Magistrate with the swoorde then answered with the pen. The 17. Obiection How say you to this golden sentence Sext. decret that the Pope maketh the place holy and therefore Rome is without spotte or wrincle I answer if he be an euil man he depraueth the place and that the Pope is euill his frutes do declare The 18. Obiection What if the Pope sayeth Busgradus carie all the worlde too hell with him or beléeue that there is no life to come as some did or be an homocide or a Sodomite or as blasphemous as Iulius the thirde or as euell as the deuill or if he blaspheme the virgin Mary as a ruffian as the said Iulius did we must beleue that wée must be saued by him or elles wée must be dampned without redemtion for whatsoeuer he dothe wée must beleue it as an article of our faith for who may or dare aske him why he dothe so What shall wée answere to these blasphemies they are not worthy to bée repeted to horrible to be mentioned to absurde to be confuted to vile to enter into any mans eares The xix Obiection How answer you this authentical sentence of the glose of the Prologe of the Clementines that the Pope is neither god nor man sed Neuter inter vtrunque If he be neither god nor man but neuter betwene them both than is he a monster or if he bée neither god nor man he is surely the deuel or else some Antechrist The xx Obiection Is not he the head of the Church that is better then the virgin Mary but the Pope is better then the virgin Mary Ergo hée is the head of the Church What if I should denye the Maior ye could not proue it but I will deny the Maior hée that can make him that is better then the virgin Marye is better then the virgin Marye But the Pope can make a priest which is better then the virgin Mary Ergo the Pope is better then the Uirgin Marye A priest is better then the virgin Mary in this poynt that she bare Christ but once but the priest euery daye I could answer this by the like absurditie of yours after this sorte You say that a priest can make god But hée that can make god is better then god Ergo the priest is better then god But the Pope can make a priest if the priest who is an inferiour can make god what can the Pope make who is superiour to a priest Surely a thing aboue god doth not the Pope in making of god exalt him selfe aboue god Therfore he is that man of sinne and child of perdition that is spoken of in the second to the Thessalonians cap. 2. ver 3. and .4 The 21. Obiection Hée is the head of the church that can gyue the names of dignitie and tytles to all Princes Kinges and Monarches and may crowne them But the Pope can doo this Ergo the Pope is the head of the church I denye the Minor. I proue it thus What King hath not his tytle gyuen of the Pope name one if you can To bée brief hée gaue this tytle to the Frenche King to bée Christianissimus most Christian King and to the King of England to bée Defensor fidei Defendour of the fayth I graunt hée did this but hée chalendged this authoritie falsely and then hée did as the scripture prophecied that hée should doo Exalte himselfe aboue all power The 22. Obiection Hée that curseth when and whom hée will is the head of the church But the Pope can both curse and blesse when and whom hée will. Ergo the Pope is the head of the church I denie the Minor. I proue it thus Was not England cursed by the Pope and our holy father Iulie the thixde of that name dyd of his meere mercie gyue one droppe of Christes bloode reserued at Rome to perdon England withall or rather of his holynesse and absolute power perdoned Englande In the yeare of Christ 1553. the 19. daye of October non obstantibus constitutionibus ordinationibus Apostolicis ▪ caeterisque contrarijs quibuscunque Notwithstanding the constitutiones and ordinances of the Apostles or any other whatsoeuer they bée to the contrarie Are you not ashamed to take the honour from God and gyue it to a man From the Creator and gyue it to the creature you saye that though the Apostles or any other in whiche woordes both God and Christ are conteyned dyd ordeyne and decrée the contrarie that the Popes blessing muste preuayle his iudgement stande and hée to bée all in all The 23. Obiection Pelagius many yeares agone ordeyned that the church of Rome had not her authoritie of men or of Synodes but of christ And Gregorie the seuenth Nicolas the third were more playne For they concluded that the Pope was the Supreme head without all controuersie I aunswere that by these it is manifest that it was 560. yeares after Christ before that any mencion was made of any supremacie for these twoo first forged supremacie that which was first is most
the yeare of Christe 913. was Pope and begotte Iohn the .11 Pope of that name in adulterie 54 Iohn the eleuenth in the yeare of Christe 916. kept Theodoca an impudent Harlot This Iohn was rather a warrier then an Apostle as Platina writeth At this tyme holynes fledde from the Popes to the Emperours 55 Iohn the twelfth in the yeare of Christ 934. sonne to Sergius was deposed by Leo the sixt 56 Stephanus the eight in the yéere of Christ 937. was so wounded in a ciuile sedition that hée was ashamed to come abroade all his lyfe tyme. 57 Iohn the 13. in the yeare of Christe 964. gyuen too all mischiefe to dyce cardes games robberies sacrilege fornication and to all other euyll actes from his youth whome Volaterane called a cursed man And Platina Monstrum hominis Hée cutte out the eyes of some of his Cardinalles their tounges their fingers handes noses and members Hée was accused that hée dyd not saye his Matynes and Houres that hée dyd not communicat● in his Masse that hée dyd make Deacons in his stables that hée dyd lye with twoo Sisters that in playing at dyce hée requyred the Deuill too helpe him hée made children Bishoppes hée deflowred Maydes and straungers made Lateranense that holy Pallace a Stewes and brothall house that hée dyd deflowre Stephana his fathers concubyne the Widowe Rayner and the Widowe Anne with her Niece put out his Spirituall fathers eyes hée hunted hée warred hée burned hée brake doores and wyndowes hée dranke and pledged the Deuill with wyne Wherefore hée was deposed and Leo placed But afterwarde his noble concubines caused him too bée restored and Leo deposed Hée ordeyned that the Emperoure should alwayes after that bée crowned of the Pope of Rome A man tooke him with hys wyfe and thrust him through with his dagger Hée made sainct Dunston beyng a Necromancer Archebishoppe of Canterburie 58 Boniface the seuenth in the yeare of christ 973. stale all the Treasure of Saint Peters church and fled too Constantinople and there solde it Hée returned to Rome and with that money payed his creditoures hyred Ruffians and deposed Iohn the .15 whome they had made Pope put out his eyes thrust him in prison where hée dyed miserably 59 Iohn the 16. in the yeare of Christ .983 a priests sonne was hated booth of the clergie and of the Laytie hée gaue all too hys kyndred 60 Syluester the second in the yeare of Christ 997. studied necromancie asked of the Deuill howe long he should be Pope The Diuell aunswered tyll hée should singe Masse at Hierusalem Hée fell sicke in a certeyne place in the church of the holy crosse called Hierusalem and there hearing an horrible noyse of Diuelles as Petrus Premonstratensis reporteth dyed 61 Iohn the 18. in the yeare of christ 1001. appoynted all soule daye perswaded by Odylo an Abbot who heard a pitifull noyse in mount Ethna supposing that there were the Soules departed and that Purgatorie was in that hill of Sicilia 62 Petrus Damianus a Cardinall writeth that Benedict the 8. Pope of that name in the yeare of Christe 1008. dyd appeare after his death sitting on a blacke horse to a Bishoppe one of hys acquayntance which Bishop being astonied with such a spectacle and vision sayde Arte not thou Pope Benedict whom wée know is dead Hée aunswered Sum ille infoelix Benedictus I am that vnhappie Benedict The Bishop aunswered How is it with you O blessed Father Then aunswered the Pope I am gréeuous●ie tormented but there is remedie ynough Goe thy waye and tell my brother Iohn who is nowe Pope that hée cause too be digged vp certein treasure hidden in the ground and gyue it too the poore Hée appeared also to Pope Iohn saying I trust to bée deliuered and woold to god that Odylo that holy Abbot would praye for mée that inuented purgatorie 63 Iohn the 20. of a Laye man was made Pope without any orders in the yeare of Christ 1020. 64 Benedictus the ninth in the yeare of chryst 1032. obteyned his popeshippe by Arte Magique and dyd Sacrifice to Diuelles in woodes and mountaynes and made woomen to followe hym thyther and to loue him by a Sparrowe Hée knewe what was doone in all the world Hée solde hys Popeshippe libris mille quingentis At this tyme came in the name of the Cardinalles This Benedict as hée was coniuring in the wooddes was strangled by the Deuill and after his death was séene of an Hermite in body lyke a Beare in head and tayle lyke an Asse and béeing demaunded how chaunsed it that hée was so transformed hée answered I lyue in this state bycause when I was Pope I liued without reason without Lawe without God. 65 Syluester the thirde in the yeare of Christe 1043. solde hys popeshippe to Gregorie The Cardinalles called this Gregorie a Murtherer Then there were at that selfe same tyme thrée Popes Benedictus was in the pallace Lateranense Syluester and Gregorie and Clement the second was elected the fourth 66 Damasus the second in the yeare of Christ 1048. inuaded by violence and made himselfe Pope by force at what tyme it was lawfull for euery man to aspire by what meanes hée could Quo iure quaque iniuria 67 Victor the seconde in the yeare of Christ 1055. was poysoned drinking in the Lordes Challyce 68 Alexander the second in the yeare of Christe 1062. after hée had ●ought a great battayle commaunded that no laye man should gyue any Benefice 69 Gregorie the seuenth in the yeare of Christ 1069. forbadde any Lay man to possesse Tithes he poysoned sixe or eight Popes hée caried about with him alwayes a booke of Necromancie of the which matter reade Benno at large hée excommunicated the Emperoure and made him to stande thrée dayes without the gate of the citie in a colde winter with his wyfe and his yong Sonne barefooted from morning to night without meat or drinke And when the sayde Emperour desired most humbly at the ende of the thrée dayes aunswer was made to him on this wyse O abhominable Antichrist the Popes holynes hath no leasure too speake with you But notwithstanding on the fourth day his familiare friend and Concubine Mathilda obteyned that hée might come too the Popes presence But neyther would gyue him his crowne ageyne neyther perdon him neyther absolue him from excommunication tyll hée should confirme by writing all his decrées which hée did and notwithstanding would not restore him 70 Calixtus the second in the yeare of Christe 1119. fought a battell with Gregorie the eight Pope of that name ouercame him and did set him vppon a Camell his head too the tayle and so brought him to Rome with such despite 71 Alexander the thirde in the yeare of Christe 1158. instituted that no man should marye his brothers wyfe Hée vsed the Kinge of Englande and the Kinge of Fraunce for
a stone Though ignorance were tollerable in other Bishoppes yet it is vntollerable in the Pope Why should not hée that is Superiour in place and inferiour in knowledge bée contented to bée iudged by him that is inferiour in place and superiour in knowledge Thus much writeth Arnulphus with much more reprouing superioritie condemning ostentation and repressing the intollerable arrogancie of the Pope Christ willeth that a man shall not forsake his wyfe for any cause but for adultery The Pope appointeth twelue causes Error conditio votum cognatio crimen Cultus disparitas vis ordo ligamen honestas Si sit affinis si fortè coire nequibit Christ forbiddeth to breake any of the ten commaundements The Pope sayeth that hée maye breake the first and seconde bycause that onely God is not too bée prayed vnto but also saincts and that the Images maye bée woorshipped and the crucifix wyth the adoration of Latreia aswell as the blessed Sacramentes Christ loueth his enemies The Pope persecuteth his as hée dyd Dandalus who was afterward the Duke of Venice for hée caused an yron chayne to bée locked about his necke and him to come coupled euery daye with a dogge vppon his knées and so knéeling vppon his handes and knées gathering crommes vnder his table being spurned at with his féete and others as they did the dogge Thus dyd the Pope a long tyme tyll that hée gaue some parte of his holynes to him and absolued him Christ blessed all and cursed none The Pope curseth not onely men but also Aungelles according to this place of Paule to the Galathians 1. vers 8. If an Angell come and preach any other Gospell then that which wée preach let him bée accursed Gundisalnus cont Num. 5. Gloss. dist 19. n●lli in cap. gener de Ele. lib. 6. Christ restored mens liues handes and toungues The Pope cutte●h them of For Manciuellus a famous man sitting vppon a whyte horse made an Oration against the Pope before all the people at the tyme of procession proouing him too bée Antichriste Wherefore the Pope caused him to bée apprehended and booth his handes to bée cut off After hée recouered hée made an other more vehement agaynst him then hee caused his tounge to bée cut out of his head and dyed thereof Christ is constant and writeth things certayne infallible and agréeing one with another The Pope is vnconstant writeth vntruthes false thinges absurde vnreasonable and one contrarie to an other For that which one affirmeth an other denyeth and that one approueth an other condempneth Christ burned no man. The Pope burned Hierom of Prage and Iohn Hus a true prophet in the yeare of Christ 1405. Christ payed Trybute Matthew 22. ver 21. The Pope refuseth Chryst obteyned mercie for his The Popes can finde none sayeth Platina their sinnes bée so abhominable and the Popes holynesse to bée gone from them too the Emperour Christ cannot erre The Pope dooth Christ iustifieth vs of his meere goodnesse and mercie The Pope not without his pardons ▪ Christ destroyed Idolles pulling them downe The Popes erecte them and through deceit fayneth them too speake and woorshippeth them Christ is a faithfull steward The Pope an vnfaithfull Christ exhorteth to peace The Pope to warre Christ to vertue The Pope to vice Christ doth require no mans riches The Pope doth requyre and robbe like Agamemnon in Homere Thimoboros a deuourer of the people a Vertes a Cataline a thiefe a poller and a seller of the holy Ghost And if he be demaunded why he doth so he aunswereth that it is lawfull for him to encrease his patrimonie of the church by any meanes These with such like wrote Valla a worshipful Senator of Rome in the yeare of Christ .1405 or therabout Christ thanketh his Father that he hath reueled the Gospel to his litel ones The Pope is thanked of the deuill that by his meanes so many sowles come downe to hell This is conteyned in the Epistle of Lucifer too the Pope to the other of the Spiritualtie about the yeare of Christ .1228 The Church of Christ is holy Hierusalem The Popes is adulterous Babylon and Sodomitical Rome Gregorius Hemispurgensis a doctor of Lawe and a Senator of Nor●●berge in the yeare of Christ .1454 Christ regardeth the sowle of man more thē all worldly riches The Pope careth more for ten shillings then a .10000 sowles Christ abolisheth the commaundements of men The Pope receyueth them The holy Ghost came down vpō Christ in y likenes of Doue The Popish huly ghost came downe vppon Iohn the .23 of that name after their masse of the holy ghost in a councell holden at Rome in the likenes of an ill fauored and a prodigious Owle and flied al about howling sate vpon a beame staring vpon the Pope What a thing is this sayd those holy fathers the holy ghost is present with vs in the likenes of an Owle And in the next Session the Owle did the same till the the councell was giuen ouer Clemangis Archedeacon of Baro in the yeare of Christ .1416 Christ is the Sauiour of Sowles The Pope a murtherer Brigitta in the yeare of Christ .1370 she calleth the Pope a disperser of Christes flock more abhominable then the Iewes crueller thē Iuda vniuster then Pilate worser then Lucifer that he turned the x. Commaundements in this one Da pecuniam giue me monye It is wrytten that she saw the Uirgin Mary saye to hir sonne that Rome was a riche fielde and that Christ aunswered that it was riche but rich with wéedes Zizanijs Christ sayth that whosoeuer commeth to him shal neuer perish The Pope sayeth that whosoeuer commeth to him in the yere of Iubile though he die by the way as he goeth shall not perish for he will commaund the Aungels to cary his sowle vp into Heauen without delay with all expedition He graunteth also to euery one that commeth to Rome to the Iubile power to chuse thrée or foure sowles at theyr owne wil and fetch them out of purgatory Christe saith that there is but one God and him onlie to be worshipped The Pope saith the the Sacrament of the Alter is God therfore to be worshipped Iohn Mutzeger in the yeare of Christ .1384 Christ is the Author of concorde The Pope of discorde Nilus in the yeare of Christ 136● Christ wisheth to all men felicitie The Pope wished to them a poole or a bottomlesse pitte This was the wishe of Pope Martine the .4 of that name in the yeare of Christe .1290 Christe ouercame and subdued the worlde by his doctrine The Pope by mony discorde battell crafte and malice Abbas Vrsp. in the yeare of Christe .1199 Christ teacheth true doctrine The Pope heresie Crantzius lib. 8. ca. 8. Christe breaketh not his promisse nor condempneth any man before that hée pleadeth his owne case The Pope and his Legates burned Iohn Hus and Hierome
witnesse that these are the Scriptures as the heauenly bodyes that there is a God are the scriptures any better although they bée as testimonialles The church may bée witnesse the faythefull people may testifie that these are the scriptures and yet the scriptures perfect constant and certayne of them selues Augustine lib. 2. cap. 14.32 willeth Cresconius to omitte the authoritie of Cyprian and alledge the scripture the which if hée could hée would gyue place Ageynst Maximinus hée willeth him to let the councelles alone and bring scripture that thereby th● truth myght be tryed The third Obiection The Pope is called in the first chapter of the Gospell of Iohn ver 42. Cephas and Cepha in the Gréeke toung is Caput a head Ergo the Pope is head of the church Your ignorance is intollerable you despise the tunges yée will rather cleaue to your olde errours and gloses then to séeke for the truthe You forsake the fountaynes and digge and drinke of pudles and kennelles You wrest and turne the scriptures from the meaning of Christe too satisfie your own opinions Your reading in the Texte Cephas which is a Syrian woorde thought that it had ben Cephale a gréeke woorde For saye you Cephas is an head in gréeke and commeth of Cephale and therefore you saye that Peter who was called Cephas is the head of the church when as Cepha the Syrian word which signifyeth a stone being turned into Gréeke soundeth Cephas Thus yée turned whyte into blacke y ée choppe ye chaunge ye turne ye peruerte and depraue all for lacke of knowledge For Christ sayeth that wheras Peter was called before Symon his name should be chaunged and called Cephas which is a stone as Iohn himselfe interpreteth it Bycause that not onely Peter but also all they that beléeue in Christ are lyuely stones As out of a stone commeth fyre so dooth burning charitie out of godly men As a stone or Rocke is stronge stedfast and firme so is euery Peter I meane euery Christian ageynst whose fayth no Tyrannie no Hell gates no persecution no affliction can preuayle What doo I saye doo they not preueyle yea they preuayle ageynst the bodye the Soule they cannot kyll The fourth Obiection Is not hée the chief and head that is firste named Is not a King named afore his subiectes The husbande before the wyfe Peter was first named I aunswere Is Priscilla better then hir husbande bycause that shée is first named in the text and Aquila after her But that cannot bée for S. Paule sayth that the man is the woomans head This woord Protos as Theophilacte interpreteth hath hys respect onely to his brother Andrewe who was called before and Peter after for they twoo were protokleti And notwithstanding that Peter is named first in some places yit is Andrewe named before him as in the first of Iohn ver 44. Philip sayeth Iohn was of the same Citie that Andrewe Peter were of And in the 24. ver of the 20. chaptes of Mathew the other 10. were offended with Iames Iohn In the which text Peter was not named the first but only with the rest We are forbidden to giue Supremacie too any Bishop Esoitai oi eschatoi protoi Kai oi protoi eschatoi oi eschatoi The fyfte Obiection The Popes may lawfully depose Emperoures For as the Moone taketh light of the Sunne so dooth the Emperour of the Pope And the Pope maye treade vppon the Emperoures necke as Pope Alexander dyd vppon the necke of Fredericke the seconde Emperour of that name And that was prophecied longe before by Dauid a friend of ours in these woordes Super Aspidem Basyliscum ambulabis conculcabis Draconem Leonem Thou shalt walke vppon the Adder and Basyliske and shalt tread vppon the Dragon and Lyon. O you Tyrauntes O you rebelles Where is your Truthe where is your Obedience Was it not spoken of Christe and so generally to all good men ageynst whome the force of the Deuill should not preuayle Doo you so intreat your Kinge and Prince Howe dare you bée so bolde as to call your Emperoure Aspis Basylick Lyon and Dragon much lesse ought you to tread vppon them too putte them too deathe and too depose them They haue authoritie by Gods woord too rule ouer you too haue you in subiection and not you them You alledge Scripture as though the Dyuell did too Christ and the next verse too that which the Dyuell alledged as though the Dyuell and the Pope were saying Matynes toogether The sixth Obiection Well say what ye will our holy Father may do what hée list What if hee should sell the whole world perhaps ye will say that it were Symonie but I will sweare vppon a booke that it were no Symonie though hée solde the whole world bycause that hée selleth but his owne for so our olde freind Dauid prophecied vppon him Omnia subiecisti sub pedibus eius oues boues pecora campi Thou hast put all thinges vnder his féete all shéepe and oxen yea all the beastes of the field O heauen O earth the Dyuell alledged Scripture more probably Surely Dauid speaketh of man too whom God hath giuen all thinges for his vse commoditie and Allegorically too Christ whom hée hath made Lorde and King ouer all The seuenth Obiection Did not Pope Agatho write in an Epistle to the Emperours in the fourth Action of the Synode at Constantinople that the church of Roome did neuer erre neyther was possible that it should erre Is not this ynough Is it not a goodly saying Is it not woorthy too bée embraced O what a goulden sentence is this Where can you read the lyke I assure you it is not possible too bée answered I answer that I am able too proue that euery Pope hath erred if synne bée errour Moreouer the most iust man sinneth seuen tymes and hée that sayeth that hée hath no sinne is a lyer there is no truth in him The eight Obiection Panormitane an Archebishoppe did affirme and reason in a Councell at Basile in the .xxxix. Session that the Pope ought too bée aboue all Bishoppes I answer that the sayd Panormitane made an Oration too that effect and made the Pope Lorde ouer the Church notwithstanding the Bishoppe of Argens Iohn Segouius and Fraunces de Funx Diuines confuted that errour in the said Councell proued Pope Eugenius the fourth of that name to bée a relapse and an heretique bycause that hée tooke vpon him too dissolue transporte prorogue that Councell Can hée bée Lorde ouer the Church that should bée a minister and as hée wryteth him self Seruus seruorum Peter willeth no man no Bishoppe too rule ouer the Chuch but too bée ruled by the Church The ninth Obiection Oraui pro te Petre ne deficiat fides tua I haue prayed for thée Peter that thy fayth should not fayl thée Hée can not erre whom Christ prayeth for
hoggos fleshe saying putano de Dio dispetto de Dio bring mée my hogges fleshe And likewyse for his Peacock when one asked why hys holynesse was so mooued hée aunswered If God caste Adam out of Paradise for eating of an Aple what would you haue mée too doo for my Peacock Is not my peacock better then an Aple And thus they aunswer such blasphemies that in that the Pope was a man hée offended but in that hée was Christes Uicegerent hée could not sinne For saye they though hee were a desperate man yet the seate and place maketh him holye Now I come to their Obiections which they alleage out of their Canons and Doctours The first Obiection HE is saye they the head of the Church that ruleth the whole world But the Pope ruleth the whole world ▪ Ergo hée is the head of the Church I denye the Minor. They proue it by Thomas the irrefragable Doctour in these woordes The Pope sayeth hée is chiefe Bishoppe For as a King ruleth his realme so doth hée the whole world and Bishoppes for his helpe and ease are ioyned in euery citie as Iudges Thom. secund secund 4.98 art 9. 4.20 art 4. What an argument is this of Thomas of Aquine Is it a good comparison to compare a subiect with a King or rather preferre him before the kinge of the Romanes 1 Where was his authoritie when Nero persecuted as they saye Peter 2 Was not Linus as they reporte the second Pope at Rome in the yeare of Christ 82 Where was his vniuersall power where was his might when hée was put to death of Saturninus the Consul of Rome who was inferiour to Vespasian being Emperour at that tyme 3 Did not Domitian kill Anacletus an 84. 4 Did not Trayane fasten an anker aboue Clementes necke and cause him to be cast into the sea anno 102. 5 Was not Euarestus murthered by the same Emperour 6 Did not Aurelianus the Liuetenant the like to Alexander an 121. 7 And was not Pius killed in the tyme of Antonius verus an 121 8 And likewise Anicete an 159. And Sother an 169. 9 And Eleutherius beheaded an 177.191 10 And Zepherinus in the tyme of the Empe. Aurelius an 220. 11 And Ca●ixtus in the time of Seuerus apprehended beaten with clubbes cast in prison throwen out of a window headlonge and his body cast into a pitte an ●26 12 And Vrbanus at the same tyme banished and at length killed an 233. 13 And Pontianus at the same tyme was banished into Sardinia tormented afflicted and suffered death ano 239. 14 And Autherius in the tyme of the Emperour Maximinus an 243. 15 And Fabianus vnder Decius An. 250. 16 And Cornelius also anno 253. 17 and Lucius vnder Valerianus ann 255. 18 and Stephan vnder Galienus beheaded an 257. 19. Sixtus the second of that name was likewyse martyred An. 267. 20. So was Dionysius An. 277. 21. So Felix an 282. 22. So Eutichianus an 283. 23. So Caius anno 295. 24. So Marcellinus an 303. 25. So Marcellus anno 308. 26. So Eusebius an 309. 27. So Melchiades an 314. The Papistes say that all these were Popes I praye you how ruled they all the world as Thomas sayeth the Popes doo where was their auctoritie aboue all Kinges Princes Emperours and Monarches If of God or of Peter or of them selues why did they not resist why were they put too death If they had none as none they had in deede than of whom had the Popes following their power tyrannie to kill innocentes to depose Emperours to disgrade Bishoppes to rule in hell heauen earth and purgatorie to absolue à poena culpa to do what they lust to oppresse banish and murther The second Obiection Well say what you will the Pope is meruelous for hée hath his name of merueling And hée is to be wondered at bycause hée is Peters vycegerent in the earth for hee hath his name of Papae an Interiection of merueling And without doubt hée occupieth not the place of a pure man but of the true god Textus est in Codice in t corpor de transl Episcopi I answer You say that hée hath his name of Papae an Interiection of merueiling in deede the Reuelation and Paule sayeth that Antechrist when hée shall come which is the Pope shall woorke meruailes and do false myracles by Necromancie and iniquitie The third Obiection Hath he not a great preeminence when as no man neyther may nor dare aske him in any matter why he doth so De poen dist ex perso The fourth Obiection Neyther is the Pope Peters vicegerent but hee occupieth the roome that Peter occupied Gloss. in Clement vna de iure iur in verb. vicar The fifth Obiection Doo you not knowe that the Popes name is chaunged in hys Creation Consecration and enstalling that by the chaunging of the name the man may likewise bee chaunged For where hée was a pure man before now is hée become the Uicegerent of the true God as in example Who was a cruell tyraunt before is nowe chaunged and called Clemens Hée that was hurtfull is now Innocent Hée that was a maleface Boniface and so foorth of the rest Hath not the Pope both the swoordes Is not hée an heretique that breaketh the constitution of the Pope or that holdeth that the Pope is not able to make a constitution hée is a paynim that wil not obey the Pope The Pope may depose the Emperoure without a Councell yea with a cause or without a cause Stat pro ratione voluntas These Obiections are thus to bée aunswered that as none of these are conteyned in the scriptures no more are they to bée credited than fables of Homer or Ouide In chaunging their names they detect their hypocrisie who will beléeue that the chaunginge of a mans name will make an euill man a good man of a dishonest an honest Besydes this is not the Pope a man still though hée bée anoynted consecrated enstalled and entromyzed Is not an Axe an Axe though hée haue a Childes coat vppon his backe ought hée to rule the Empernur Is not hée bounde too gyue too Caesar that which is Caesars Notwithstanding one cursed Iames de Terano Chamberlayne to Vrbane the sixt Pope of that name in the yeare of Christ 1385. interpreteth this place of Luke of the Emperours before Christes passion but after that Chryste was ascendeth into heauen as victor and conquerour hée writeth thus When I shalbée lifted vp from the ground I will drawe all too my selfe that is sayeth the sayd Iames I will take away all Empire Kingdomes Iurisdictions and Dominions of the worlde from the Emperours and Kinges and gyue them too the Pope who when hée hath subdued them and brought them in subiection hée may vse the Royaltie riches gorgeous apparell and all other thinges as subiect too him This cursed Iames as Molineus termeth him is too bée condemned of treason for forging a false coyn
cannot Canonize That the Pope dooth not iustifye all those places proue which proue Christ too bée our onely Heade Redéemer Iustifyer and Glorifyer To Canonize is to glorifie to giue felicitie to make a Sainct of a man and to introduce him into eternall ioye and this dooth only christ Ergo not the Pope which Paule proueth by this climax this gradation this induction and sorites Whom God hath predestinate them hée hath called whom hée hathe called them hée hath iustified and whom he hath iustified them hée hath glorified But the Pope can predestinate no man Ergo neyther iustifye them then neyther Glorifie them and per consequens not Canonize them Wée maye woorshippe neyther the Uirgine Marie neyther the Apostles neyther any Saincte neyther make holy dayes or Temples for them muche lesse Canonize them which comprehendeth all these This dooth Epiphanius proue at large Tom. 2. in 27. Haeresie and Theodorete vpon the second Chapter too the Collossians August contra Faustum lib. 2. cap. 21. de Ciuit. lib. 10. cap. 1. lib. 21. cap. 26. lib. 22. cap. 10. vppon the Psalme 113. Ambros. vppon Rom. 1. and the Councell of Laodicia The second Obiection Hée that cannot erre can Canonize Sainctes But the Pope cannot erre Ergo the Pope can canonize sainctes I denie the Minor. For I will alleadge out of their● owne Authoures suche Testimonies as they write by the which ye shal perceyue that the Popes dyd aswell erre in doctrine as in maners The first Màrcellinus in the yeare of Christ 295 denyed Christ offered to Images and Idolles Notwithstanding hée repented him and suffered death after that for Christ. 2 Liberius in the yéere of Christ 354. through ambition became an Arian 3 Damasus in the yeare of Christe 368. after muche slaughter done in a church at Rome was made Pope 4 Sericius in the yeare of Christ. 382. prohibited the Priestes of the West churches to bée maried and deuorced them that had maried wydowes and excluded second mariage 5 Anastasius the first in the yeare of Christ 392. reiected them from the ministerie that had any mayme 6 Innocentius the first in the yeare of Christ 406. decréed that the Séea of Rome should bée preferred before all others and too bée iudged of none Hée caused too annoyle the sick persons he compelled them which he called Heritiques to come to the Catholique fayth of Rome by violence Romana fides inquit Mantuanus id est falsa He graunted to such as had bin all the daies of their lyfe cursed and wicked pardon and repentance of their sinnes in the panges of death He excluded from the clergie seculer Soldiars and such as had bin twyse maried 7 Sozimus decréed that the Sea of Rome could decrée nothing against the woord of God and he was in the yeare of CHRIST ▪ 420. 8 Bonifacius in the yeare of Christe 423. turned Vigiles intoo fastes 9 Xistus or Sixtus in the yeare of Christe 440. made Peters chaynes a Saint 10 Celestinus the first in the yeare of Christ 430. made Introitum of the masse with the Graduall with the Responsories 11 Leo in the yeare of Christ 445. made the holy sacrifise the immaculate Hoste more He commaunded Sonday to be kept holy day he instituted procession he was cursed and excomunicated by the Bishop of Alexandria 12 Hilarius in the yeare of Christe 463. confirmed the generall councelles published the common Law remoued from the degrées of the Church them that had bin twise maryed and them that had maryed Wydowes and them that were lame and firste forbad priestes to weare lay mens apparell 13 Simplicius in the yeare of Christ 475. did much contend with the Bishoppe of Rauenna to encrease his authoritie 14 Foelix the third of that name in the yeare of Christe 481. excluded them that were Baptised or rebaptised of heretiques from the ecclesiastical Chiualrie He made Michelmas daye against the councell of Laodicia 15. Gelacius the second in the yeare of Christe 489. decréed that neyther he nor his successours should be iudged of any man in the earth 16 Anastatius in the yeare of Christ 496. fauored the Euthichians and Nestorians 17. Simachus in the yeare of Christ .498 after longe strife with Laurence and Peter was Pope He patched and framed the masse in order he decréed that no Councell should bée of force any where without the Popes presence 18. Hormisda in the yeare of Christ .513 ordeined after he was at quietnes with the East Churches that the decrées of the fathers and Councelles shoulde binde all Nations wheras at the first● they were ordeyned for certaine Persones and Countries 19. Iohn the first in the yeare of Christe .525 ordeyned that y Emperour shoulde bée vnder the Subiection of the Pope 20. Foelix the fourth in the yeare of Christe .526 commaunded masses to be had only in a halowed place and y the Clergie should bée deuided from the people The Clergie in the quire and the people benethe in the bodie of the Churche and that men lying at the pointe of deathe shoulde bée a●oyled ▪ 21. Vigilius in the yeare of Christ .537 decréed that Rome should bée the mistres and mother of all other Churches 22. Pelagius the first in the yeare of Christ .556 put in too the masse to pray for the dead and committed an Heretique to the seculer Magistrate to bée punished ▪ This Pope did affirme first of all other that the Supremacie of the Bishope of Rome was geuen of Christ and not of any Sinode or of men 23. Iohn the thirde in the yeare of Christ .563 decréed agaynste his predecessour that none ought to bée called an highe Prieste or an vniuersall Bishope 24. Pelagius the second in the yeare of Christe .577 added many thinges to the masse he put Subdeacons from theire wiues and from other Ecclesiasticall of●●ces and made seauen fourmed Letanies to appease the wrathe of God for the great Pestilence y was at Rome 25. Gregory the first in the yeare of Christ .590 did many thinges well and many thinges euill hée called himselfe seruaunt of seruaunts and forbad that any shoulde be called a generall Bishop He put many things to the masse Letanies Processions Antiphonas Psalmodies Alleluya Nine Kirieleysons Offertorie thrée peticions in the Canon He forbad them that fasted to eate flesh milke chéese or egges and graunted at certain tymes of the yeare forgiuenes of their sinnes hée forbad monkes to Baptise or Images to bée broken 26. Sabinianus in the yeare of Christe .607 Appointed the day houres to bée deuided and knowne by Ringing of Belles and Lampes to burne in the Temples and caused Gregorius his Predecessoures bookes to bée burned 27. Bonifacius the thirde in the yeere of Christ .610 obteyned of Phocas the Emperour that he might be called Pope and Supreme heade and cheife Prince of all Bishops
Althoughe Iohn the 3. After Christ .565 yeare and Gregorie the Pope after Christ .590 had apointed and decréed moste Prudently the Contrarie This saide Boniface apointed the Aultares to bée couered with white Linen clothes 28. Theodotus in the yeare of Christe .618 decréede that no man should mary his goddaughter 29. Boniface the 5. in the yeare of Christ 621. apointed Sanctuaries for Malefactoures that Coluthes shoulde not touche the Reliques of Martires Sacrilege to bée punished with the dart of excomunication and that Monkes being preistes might binde and louse 30. Honorius the firste in the yeare of Christe .626 made the Crosse of Christe a Saincte and tooke the Brasen Tiles of the Temple of Romulus and couered Saincte Peters Churche with them and builded many Temples 31. Theodocus in the yeare of Christ .640 the sonne of a Bishope was Pope at what tyme Carcombert King of England firste commaunded Lent to bée kept in Englande 32. Martine the firste in the yeare of Christe .650 compelled the Clergie to vowe chastitie 33 Eugenius the first in the yeare of Christe .660 apointed that Bishoppes should haue a prison to emprison the Clergie and that Bishoppes might not nor oughte not to conuert the goodes of the churche to their owne vses 34. Vitelianus in the yeare of Christ .661 brought firste into the Temples Musike and Orgaines 35. Donus in the yeare of Christe .681 deuided the Clergie into certein orders 36 Agatho the fyrste in the yeare of Christ .680 commaunded that all the Lawes of the Pope should bée taken as confirmed by the mouth of God. 37. Constantine the first in the yere of Christ .708 went towards Constantinople and in the iourney Iustinian the Emperour met him and kissed his féete He commaunded Images to be had in Temples and to be painted 38. Gregory the second in the yeare of Christ .715 forbad a man to mary Presbyteram Dyaconam Monacham and a spiritual godmother and made Leo the Emperour his subiects too rebell bycause the Emperour had pulled downe Images of Saincts out of Temples 39 Gregory the third in the yeare of Chryst .731 brought in Images againe cursed Leo the Emperour who resisted him and despising the Emperour caused Martellus King of Fraunce too make warre against the Lumbards 40 Stephanus the second in the yeare of Christ .751 caused Pipinus to inuade Lumberdie hée pardoned Pipinus againste his othe made vnto his king Childerique and this was the first Pope that was borne vppon mens shoulders and caused Images to be worshipped and much Idolatrie to be committed 41. Paule the first in the yeare of Christ .760 excomunicated the Emperour in hys tyme Starres did fall from heauen into the earth 42. Leo the thyrd in the yeare of Christ .800 after his banishment béeing restored too his Popeshippe by Carolus Magnus the Emperour made the Gange daies and Frankencense and preferred the degrées of the Popes before all the wrytings of the holy Doctours and affirmed that a crosse of wood made for Christes ●rosse did bléede the very true blood of Christ. 43. Gregory the fourth made all sowle daye 44. Sergius the seconde in the yeare of Christe .841 was the first that chaunged his name and cauled himselfe Sergius whose Christian name was Hogges mouth He crowned the Emperour Lodouike and caused the Sacrament too bée deuided intoo thrée partes 45. Leo the fourth in the yeare of Christ .846 made men kisse his féete no lay man to bée in the quie● at the masse tyme but the clarks And made Ethenwolfus of a monke king of England and therfore he rendred to the Pope of euery house in England a pennye 46. Iohan a woman Pope in the yeare of Christ .853 borne at Moguntia in Germany and called an English woman through the familiarite that she had with an English monke with whom she went to Athenes being appareled like a young man proceded and excelled in learning in so much that she was cōsecrated Pope gaue orders made Bishoppes Priests Deacons and Abbottes songe masse halowed Alters Fonts and Temples ministred the Sacrament crowned Lodouike the seconde Emperour of that name with hir hand and with sainct Peters blessing Ethelwolfus King of England reuerencing this holy mother I should say holy father the Pope euen the harlot of Babylon gaue the tenth part of his Realme to clarkes and monks to praye for his sowle This Pope was gotten with childe of one of hir Cardinalles delyuered a child as she went on procession and so died after she had bin Pope two yeare and a halfe Then ●he holy fathers made prouision leste they should be deceaued any more and did set him whome they would make Pope vppon a stoole that had a hole in it and caused a Deacon to put his hand vnder and to know whither he were a man or a woman Behold the Romish Church euen after mistres I. Pope had sayd a masse of the holy ghost did offend if it bée an offence too bée an harlot Funcius sayeth that it was done by the singuler prouidence of God to ●eclare the abhomination of the whoore of Babilon and the Sea of Rome 47. Nicolas the first decréed in the yeare of our Lord .861 that no Prynce not the Emperour should be present at any councel of the Clargie onlesse it be some chéefe pointe of the fayth He decréed that no lay man should iudge of the Clergies lyues nor dispute of the Popes power neither any Christian magistrate too haue power ouer any Bishoppe bicause the Bishppe was called God and compelled priests too lyue chaste and that none shall heare the masse of him that hath a concubine 48 Martine the second in the yere of Christ 882. was made Pope by Nigromancy 49 Stephanus the 6. in the yere of Christ 890. abrogated al y Actes of Formosus the Pope for on olde grudge he tooke his body out of his graue cut of two fingers of his right hand and threwe them into Tyber and buryed him emong the Laytie 50 Romanus in the yeare of Christ 896. disanulled the Actes of his Predecessour Stephanus and approued the Actes of Formossus 51 Christophorus ▪ in the yeare of Christe 903. did cast Leo intoo prison and handled him miserably 52 Sergius in the yeare of Christ 907. deposed the sayd Christopher and made himselfe Pope and for hatred tooke vp Formosus once again and set him in the Seate of the Pope as though hée had bin alyue and cut of his head eight yeares after hée was dead hée cut of thrée of his fingers and threwe his body into Tyber and commaunded all the Romanes to confirme this acte and too subscribe Hée first ordeyned candelles to bée borne vppon Candelmasse daye Hée begotte Iohn the 12. Pope of that name of an harlot called Marozia and did many such miracles 53 Laudo in
of Prage againste their pronisse and the Emperoures saufconductes in the yeare of Christe 141● Christ openeth the way to the kingdome of Heauen The Pope stoppeth it and neither wil entre himself neither will suffer other to entre VVicleffe in the yeare of Christ 13●4 Bernerd Lutzeberge 2. Tom. council in Sessi 8. Constancienti Polydor. Aug. lib. 19. Christ and his woorde excommunicateth none without a great cause The Pope and his for euery trifle for the priests Tithes for a Pigge for a Goose for Aples and Peares And therefore sayeth Scotus in the yeare of Chryst 1300. desti 18. stut 4. men care not for his curse it is despysed and counted for vyle Christ left behinde him when he departed no money The Pope 25. thousand million of Ducates Matthaeus Palmerius Christ is the true Image of his Father The Pope is an Idoll which hath eyes and sée not eares and heare not as Robertus Gallus writeth in the yeare of Christ 1290. Christ had no earthly possession The Pope possesseth all which possession to bée gyuen by Constantine Marsilius Patauinus denieth Valla confuteth it and Cusanus and Cattalanus reproue it in the yeare of chryst 1496. Christ will haue no superioritie in Bishoppes The Pope calleth himselfe the chiefe of all Here I subscribe the woordes of Marsilius Patauinus who was in the yeare of Christ 1324. All Bishoppes should bée of equall authoritie neyther should the Pope haue any superioritie aboue other Bishoppes and much lesse aboue the Emperour or other ciuile Magistrates and Gouernours Summum iudicium debere penes esse verbum Dei not onely the Spiritualtie to bée called to the councelles but also the Layetie which are learned and godly The clergie and the Pope to bée subiectes to the Emperoure The church to bée the congregation of the faythfull Chryst to bée the head of the church Neyther dyd appointe any other Uicare or pope Bishoppes too bée elect of the church or clergie priestes to haue wyues that Peter was neuer at Rome The popes Synagoge to bée a Denne of Robbers the popes doctrine to carry men to eternal damnation Thus much Patauinus Christ sayeth that the Kinges rule the Gentyles But it shall not bée so emong you The pope sayeth that neyther Kinge nor Emperour hath any power authoritie or iurisdiction but of the pope neyther can bée of any force tyll they be annoynted consecrated and crowned by the Pope who hath full power aswell in thinges temporall as spirituall Thus writeth Ludouicus the 4. Emperoure of that name confuting the sayd presumptuous arrogancy of the Pope Iohn the 22. of that name Christ sayeth that the sentence and iudgement of Chaiphas and Pilate was vniust The Pope sayth that his sentence whither it be iust or vniust must be obserued reuerenced accepted defenced and feared This errour the sayd Emperour refelleth with many reasons and authorities Christ sayeth that his father hath gyuen vnto him all power The Pope sayeth that there is none Superiour to him Non habet superiorem The same Ludouicus proueth that the Pope may haue a superiour in earth if he offend by a councell hée may be deposed and corrected Christ deposed no Emperour The Popes did many as Iohn the 23. of that name deposed Ludoui●e in the yeare of Christ 1314. he was excōmunicated for an heretique and Scismatike he warred with 3. Popes the space of 33 yeares all the learned men in Europe were with the Emperour against the Pope Notwithstanding he cursed him and commaunded al Priestes Byshoppes Kinges and Princes to rebell against him in the yeare of Christ 1323. Christe commaundeth to bewar● of suche as come in longe gownes and Lambes apparell The Pope admitteth none els to his orders Helias Rubeus in the yeare of Christ 300. lib. 3. Christ sayth that his church is euery where wheresoeuer two or thrée be gathered in his name The Pope sayth that his is at Rome and of such as béeléeue in the Romish church all suche as wrote against VValdensis are of this opinion Iacob Riberia Christe his spirit in the Apostle willeth all men euen euerye Prelate Pope to obey the Emperours and other Magistrates The Pope aunswereth that that Text counselleth men too doo so but commaundeth not C. Soli. te titu de obedientia et Maioritate Thus aunswered the Pope Innocentius ▪ the 3. Emperour Baldione Paldiomus in the yeare of Christ 1205. Christ sought his owne The Pope other mens Christ homely apparel and diett The Pope gorgeous and sumtuous Christ peace The Pope debate Christ equetie The Pope iniquetie Petrus Blesensis wryteth thus and more in the yeare of Christ .1153 Christ shedeth no mans bloode The Pope rather followeth Romulus in murthering his brothers then Peter in feding his shéepe Adrianus the Pope of that name and Iohn Saresburiensis in the yeare of Christ .1150 Ant. tit 17. cap. 1.9 Molinaeus 11. There resorteth to Christe the poore in sprite the simple of harte the méek e and all the faithfull There resorte to the Pope in the yeare of Iubile proude prelates auaritious Archedeacons couetous Curates dotish Doctors dronken Dunsies monstrous Monks flattering Friers nyce Nunnes curious Curtesans theues bawdes brothels adulterers Idolaters with all the rest of the wicked rable I do not bring these Arguments collected out of the popish lawes and wryters for that they néede any confutacion but that men may learne with what stuffe and Trumperie they confirme their errours The Pope cannot Erre Obiection No man sinneth that is borne of God The Pope is borne of God Ergo the Pope sinneth not The fiist proposition is proued out of the firste of Iohn verse .9 The second I will proue by a Sillogisme in Barbara Euery one that is holy is borne of God Phe Pope is not only holy but also most holy Ergo euery Pope is borne of God. The first proposition is euident The second is proued by the Popes bulles which are more to bée credited then the Gospell for the Pope may interpret the Gospell how he will but no man may Interprete the Popes Bulles I aunswer Euery man sinneth The Pope is a man. Ergo the Pope sinneth The first proposition is proued by the .14 Psalme of Dauid ver 3. There is none that doth good no not one I wyll proue by a Sillogisme in Barbara the second proposition Euery creature reasonable and mortall is a man Euery Pope is a reasonable and mortall creature Ergo euery Pope is a man. The first proposition is proued by the deffinition of a man. The second proposition is proued by Athanasius Creede where he sayeth that Christ consisteth of a reasonable soule and a humane flesh And by the first to the Cor. 15. chap. ver 22.54 Rom. 6. ver the last And Hebrues the .9 ver 27. whereby euery man is proued too be mortall Obiection He that can make God is better then God The Pope can make God Ergo the Pope is
He doth graunt miracles hée maketh fire too discend from Heauen By fyer is vnderstanded the holy Ghost and the Pope promiseth to giue the holy ghost in giuing of orders saying Receiue ye the holy ghost Moreouer there is no sinne so horrible no offence so greuous which he will not forgiue for money By Fyer may be vnderstand his thundering boult of Cursing and Excommunication whereby he did strike the Monarches Princes and Kings of the earth He that will not worshippe the Image of the beast which is the dominion prerogatiue and authoritie of the Pope shalbée murthered by him and his proctors The Image of the beast is his aucthoritie ceremonies candells Sacramentes Hosts Wafecakes Housling Priests Friers Nonnes Monkes Hermetes Religious men Purgatorie Pardones Penitentiaries Curtesanes Masses Dirges Abbotts Beades Beaderos Crosses Coniurings holy Bread holy Water holy Salte Palmes holy Blood of Hayles prayers for the dead Limbus patrum Limbus puerorum praying to Saincts Superstition Idolatrie Images Idolles Pilgremages Rosaries Ladies Psalters and Regine coelorum Aue Maria stella Bulles Extreame vnction I will so plainly declare the nature of Antichrist and in such sorte that you shall vnderstande that the Pope muste néedes bée Antichrist There were onely six Monarchies from the deluge to the ende of the Worlde The first the Assirians the second the Babylonians or the Chaldes the thyrd the Medes or Persians the fourth the Grecians or Macedonians the fift the Romains and Germans the sixt is the Pope and the Emperour which were diuided out of the whole Romayne Empyre before it was diminished Daniel doth not touch the Empire of the Assirians for it was past before his tyme and this Image was séene at Babilone What néeded any Prophecie of a thinge that is past Neither is there any Prophesie of a thing that is past but of a thinge too come And therefore sayeth Daniel God shall shevv to the King things to come The head of this Image signifyeth the Monarchy of the Chaldes and Babylonians The siluer breast and armes the Medes or Persians The Belly and Thighes of brasse the Gresians or Macedonians The Legges of Yron were the Romans who subdued al the world The foote of Yron signifieth the Pope who breketh the power of the Emperour as yron doth the clay for the Pope had all Europe at his commaundement hée crouned Emperoures and hee deposed them he warred against them and subdued them hée possessed Italy and thrust the Emperour into Germany Let vs declare how the Pope who is signified by the féete of yron did subdue the Emperour who was named by the foote of claye Gegory the fyrst Pope of that name in the yeare of Christ .600 wryteth that it had bin offered diuers tymes that the Pope of Rome myght haue called the vniuersall Byshop but none of them would take it vpon them or vse that word and title Notwithstanding the same Gregory inuehing against Iohn the Patriarcht of Constantinople who would haue bene called the vniuersall Bishopp signifieth to the Emperour Mauritius and to his wife Augusta that Rome should chalenge that honor and Superioritie and that it was iniquitie to depriue the successour of Peter of that honor considering that it was sayd to Peter thou art Peter Et super hanc petram aedificabo Ecclesiam meam Wherin Gregorie offended duble first in misunderstanding or rather peruerting the place and wordes of Christ meaning by the rocke Peter when as Christ is the rocke and Peter but a member deriued from the rocke as of Christ Christians secondly that hée gaue occasion to his successoures to chalenge and aspire to that superioritie and dignitie Cursed Phocas in the yere of Christ .605 killed the good Emperour Mauritius with his wife and children and at the request of Boniface made the seate of Rome the cheife seate of all churches and that the Pope of Rome should bée preferred before all others And although that Phocas a most damnable Emperour who killed his Master and Emperoure Mauritius gaue this preminence to the pope of Rome notwithstāding he could not be elected without the assent of the Emperour of Constantinople the Exarch of Italy of the people of Rome Constantinus the 4. Emperor of that name graunted to Benedictus the second Pope of that name in the yeare of Christ .685 that the Pope might be elected without the assent of the Emperour of Constantinople or the Exarch of Itly only by the Clergie and people And in the yeare of Christ .1063 in a counsell at Mantua where Berengarius was compelled to recant his opinion of the Sacrament it was decréed that the Pope should bée only elected of the Cardinalles without assent of any others now began the Popes to do all to rule all compell all Emperoures Kinges and Princes to their orders and to bée subiect to them Gregory the 3. Pope of that name about the yeare of Christ .695 resisted the Emperour of the east Leo the .3 who had caused al maner of Images to be pulled downe and burned and them that would not do it to suffer death This Gregory resisted this excommunicated Leo this caused the Images to be more worshipped then euer they were Pope Zacharias in the yeare of Christe .743 caused the King of Fraunce called Chilpericus to be made a Monke and placed one Pipin by the meanes of the nobles of Fraunce and made him king who enriched the Pope Thus Zacherias the Pope with his successor Stephen the second Pope of that name dyd pardon and absolue Pipinus with the rest of the nobilitie of Fraunce of their othe obediēce which they ought to the king Chilpericus lately deposed This Stephen did first ordain that he his successors shold be born of mens shoulders Carolus magnus succeded his sonne Pipinus in the yeare of Christ .800 was created crouned Emperour by Leo the third Pope of that name Ludouicus succeded his Father Carolus in the empire of the west enriched the pope Paschalis his successors exceadingly For he with his grandfather Pipinus his father Carolus gaue to the Popes aboue .60 Ylands Countries Cities shires Towns dominions prouinces which are repeted in Campanus others Otho magnus the Emperour of the Germains in the yere of Christ 938. gaue all these that his predecessors had giuen to the pope for his soules health for his sonnes soule for his forefathers souls After this time the pope toke vpon him al worldly dominion power also of heauē hell purgatory No man may iudge the Pope nor his doings Causa 9. quest 3. C. patet The pope may iudge all none the Pope Neither may any man dispute of his doings .17 quest 4. c. si quis suade Dist. 79. c. extremo What if the Pope shold corrupt many by his example Pope Boniface answereth this dist 40.4 si Papa If the Pope shall cary innumerable people by
to defend christ outwardly and yit peruerteth all his lawes detracteth them to serue his fantasy abrogateth ●hem which hée likech not and maketh new of his own and dispenseth with the law of nature with Peter Paul Christ and his gospell ¶ The Pope holdeth some part of euery Heretique that hath bin since the world began WIth satan the subtile serpent he perswadeth Eue to eat of the fruit forbidden I mean he compelleth his church to eat the raw flesh and carnall body bones and soule of Christ in the sacrament which is forbidden to receiue his pardons bulles decrées and constitucions 2 With the Adamians they denied and condemed mariages in priests this did Leo the .9 pope of that name in the yere of christ 1050. Crantius lib. 4. ca. 43. And pope Pascalis in the yere of Christ 1100. Iohn Til. 3 With the Adamites they vse women and curtesans in common which is declared by their stuehouses which are lawfull for all men For the diuines of Louane defend them as good lawfull and necessary Quoniam polluitur sacerdotium matrimonio non meritricibus For priesthode is polluted with matrimony but not with harlots Minus est malum scortari quam nubere It is lesser euill to go on whorehunting then to marry Agrip. art 22. et art 16 vt habetur in c. si concubina de sent excom et grat 34. d. dicentes homini Christiano qui non habet vxorem loco vxoris liceat habere cōcubinam A christian man that hath not a wife it is lawful for him to haue a concubine Neither say they do priests and Monkes abiure or forsweare incontinencie but mariage Non abiuram incontinentiam sed matrimonium Sixtus the fourth pope of that name builded stuehouses of both the kindes in the yere of Christ .1474 O horrible Sodomie Paul the third pope of that name had registred fiue and forty thousand whores that payed euery moneth a pension or tribute to the pope which did rise yerely to fortie thousand ducates Mant. 2. fast Si pudor in villas si non patiantur easdem Et villae vomicas vrbs est iam tota lupanar 4 With the Ophites who sayd that the serpent which supplanted Eue inuented the knowledge of good and euill With Caim that killed his brother Abel With Iudas that betrayed Christ whom their adherents worship bicause that Iudas did wel in betraying Christ or els we could not haue bin saued no more say the papists we could be saued without the crosse and therfore we worship it and make it a saint and dedicate a day to it and worship it with the adoration of latria lutz cortes in lib. 3. sent dist 3. Th. aqui 5 With the Pharisies who seperated themselues in apparell and religion from others And they obserued the Sabboth day supersticiously as the papists do S. Sonday They gaue leaue to a man to put away his wife for any cause and the Pope likewise for money will dispense and allegeth at the least twelue causes and Iohannes de turre creuata many mo They gaue to the temple rather then too their parents and so do the Papists 6 The Saduces denied the immortalitie of the soule and so did Pope Leo the tenth of that name and the life to come Bembus b. The Saduces sayd that it was in our owne wil to do wel or euil the papists that it cannot bée proued by scripture that a man néedeth the grace of God to do good Occam writeth this Agrip. art 2. 7 The Esses Manaches Abelonians and Agapetes refuse mariage and to bée saued by their owne woorks so do the Popes 8 Thewdas was a rebel Act. 5. vers 36. so were the most part of the Popes to their Emperours 9 Simon Magus was a coniurer and a nicromancer so was Siluester the second Anno Do. 1002. Iohn 19. 1004. Iohn 20. 1008. Sergius 4. 1010. Benedict 8. 1013. Iohn 21. 1024. Benedict 9. 1040. Siluester 3. 1046. Gregory 6. 1048. Gregory 7. c. Simon sold the holy ghost these the holy ghost Christ Heauen Hell Purgatory Mantuan lib. cal Venalia Romae Templa sacerdotis altara sacra coronae Ignis thura preces Coelum est venale deusque 10 The Ebionites deny that Christ was before the virgin Marie the Papists do the like for they say that there were none saued no not Adam as did the Tatians but that all went to hell till Christ came and haried hell Panth. Thomas Iohn de tur ●re c. 11 The Nicolaites would haue mens wiues and adultery and fornication to be a thing indifferent so do the popes who say that single fornication is no sinne and licet habere feminam semel in mense ad expurgandas renes si non caste tamen caute and Sodomi● too bée diuinum opus Ioh. a casa cardinal Petrus Aratinus 12 The Gnostiques had images of Homer of Plato of Aristotle of Pythagoras and such others of Paul and Marcellina and placed these images besides Christs image and worshipped them and do not the papists worship the images of Christ Mary Iohn cense them kisse them reuerence them offer to them knéele to them say the Lordes prayer enioyned by their ghostly fathers which I haue séene and done 13 With the Tatians they say that matrimonie is as euill as whoredom 14 Marcus and Psichicus a folower of Ualentinus tooke vpon him to forgiue sinnes to giue grace and the holy ghost and dooth not the Pope the same 15 The Montanistes and Pristilians gaue libertie for men to forsake their wiues and so do the Popes 16 They say with Hi●rax that chastitie filleth heauen and mariage hell 17 They hold with the Audeans and Anthropomorphites that God is of like shape with men and doo not the Papists paint the father an old man with a long white beard and the holy ghost like a Doue 18 The Donatistes said that the Church was no where but in Afrike the Papists at Rome and onely there where the Pope ruleth 19 They defend frée will with the Donatists Pelagians and Anabaptists 20 With the Collyridians they woorship the virgin Mary they offer to hir they call hir the quéene of heauen 21 They say with Montanus Apelles and Cataphriges that Christ ascended without a body for they say that he is inclosed in a litle round cake inuisibly and with Montanus they appoint fasting dayes 22 Seuerus sayd that a woman was the woork of the diuell and the vpper part of man of God but from the nauell down of satan and therefore they that mary to fulfill the workes of the deuil Pope Innocent 8. aduouched the lyke saying that they that were maried could not please god Qui in carne sunt Deo placere non possunt 23 Marcellus the Bishop of Ancira affirmed that the kingdome of Christ should haue an ende Friers in Paris Preached
yeare If he came to Rome after that hée had bene at Antioche and in these other countries as Hierome reporteth then came not hée to Rome the seconde yeare of Claudius as the same Hierome contrudeth For this yeare was the sixt yeare of Nero which was after the second yeare of Claudius 17. yeare as I proue in this booke and as it foloweth necessarely by the computation of yeares and order of the historiographers As concerning Eusebius hée was an Arrian and gathered his historie out of those bookes that were condemned in codice Sancta Romana 15 ▪ dist 11. And when hée was an Arrian hée wrote this historie Tripart lib. 2. cap. 7. Read lib. 2. cap. 11. of the sayd Tripartit Hée is contrarie to himselfe for hée sayeth lib. 3. cap. 2. that Peter came not to Rome tyll the last yeare of Claudius read Molineus Rhenanus you shal find many mo reasons wherby ye may cōfute Eusebius If ther bée any other authours in this errour they may be as easely reiected as these And if we are forbiddē to ad any thing or take any thing away if the old authors may cause Peter to be at Rome without authoritie we may affirme that he was not at Rome with authoritie if they of their own heades hold that Peter was at Rome we may by euident demōstrations assured arguments infallible reasons proue that hée was not at Rome If they say and not proue and wée booth saye and proue whether is of more Authoritie They saye that hée was at Rome 25. yeares and came eyther in the tyme of Claudius or Nero wée proue that all that tyme hée was eyther in Iurie Antioche Asia or Egypte They saye that Eusebius an Arian or counterfeyt Damasus sayeth so wée saye that Christian Luke and true Paule prooue the contrarie They write contraries wée concordances they obsurdities wée sensible argumentes they alleadge fables and wée truths They say that Peter was at Rome both quicke dead wée denie both They saye that Peter when hée died willed Clemēt then being at Rome to write to Iames of his death But Iames was dead by their owne authorities before Peter suffered seuen yeares for Iames was cast downe of the pynacle of the temple at Hierusalem the 30. yeare after Christes passion and Peter as they reported suffered 37. yeare after christes passion could Clement being alyue write to Iames being dead who should carry the letters If hée went to purgatorie who knewe where purgatorie was for than it was not inuented If hée were in Heauen thither ascendeth none with letters Perhaps Clement should sende the letters and laye them vpon Iames graue that he might rise on the night and reade them as in the councell of Nyce they say that Chasantus and Musonius two Bishops of the councell of Nice dyd subscribe to those matters that were concluded in the councel desired bythe rest who layd the actes vpon their graues requiring them to subscribe for a better assertion the next morning they resorted to their graues found both their handes subscribed They write that Eusebius reporteth that Peter was reques●ed of his brethren fellowes to departe out of Rome least Nero should persecute him to death Peter went out at their request when he came to the gate he met Christ and saide thus God saue you Syr whether goe you you were best to returne here is to hotte béeing for you and mée Then sayd Chryste doost thou not know mée Peter O Peter Peter returne hither I am come to suffer ageyne Naye sayeth Peter God forbidde I will goe and so Peter returned and suffered at Rome This doctrine taught Doctor Smith I heard him in Whitengton colledge in London in Quéene Maries dayes Hée moued manye affections and tolde the tale on this wyse Maysters sayeth hée you are in a great errour as concerning the blessed Sacrament and all your trust was in Cranmer Rydley Latymer As for Latymer hée sayd in open disputation in Oxforde that hée had no learninge in that matter but out of Cranmers booke Besydes this I disputed with Latymer 20. yeares agone and then hée hadde no learning As for Cranmer hée sayde that his learninge came from Rydley And as for Rydley I disputed with him my selfe now at Oxeford the other day and I proued my Argument thus Ille cui Christus obuiauit Romae fuit Romae At Christus obuiauit Petro Romae Ergo Petrus fuit Romae Hée whom Christ met at Rome was at Rome But Christ met Peter at Rome Ergo Peter was at Rome By this Argument I proue twoo thinges and singuler mysteries of our fayth First that Peter was at Rome ageynst them that clatter that Peter was neuer at Rome Secondly that if Peter met Christ bodely as Abdias reporteth and whiche I am sure is true or else suche an auncient and holy Father would neuer haue written it Then consequently hée maye bée aswell bodely in the blessed Sacrament as hée was met bodely To this Rydley stoode lyke a block and féelinge hym selfe conuicted aunswered nothing Then sayde I Cur non respondes haeretice haereticorum haereticissime Dyd not I handle hym well Then denyed hée the minor which I proued thus Christ met Peter goeing out of Rome and sayed good morrowe Peter whether goest thou Peter aunswered good morrowe good man whether goest thou Then sayde Chryste I goe to Rome too suffer what sayeth Peter I trowe onlesse I take my markes amisse you are Ihesus Christe good Lorde howe doo you I am glad I haue met you here Then sayd hée to Peter goe backe and suffer or else I must et pro te me When Rydley had heard this my profe and Abdias authoritie a Doctoure auncient and irrefragable hée aunswered neuer a woorde And thus I cenfuted Rydley in the audience of a thousand that hée hadde not one woorde to saye yet you say● that Christ was neuer in earth since the Ascension bodely beléeue with mée that hée is vnder fourme of bread and wyne Let this argumente of myne confounde you as it did Ridley your chief champion Thus mucth Doctoure Smith and more in Whitengton colledge churche in London standing in the streat called towre Ryall a little aboue the thrée Cranes in the Uynetrée If saye the papistes wée holde not and defende ageynst these heretiques that Peter was at Rome than our churches estimation is doone our prerogatiue perisheth our preeminence no better then others our glorie diminished our holinesse empayred our authorities annihilated our honors negnected our dissimulation detected our customes wa●e colde our perdones peruerted our Iubilees iested at our Religion rayled vppon and all our pompe fall to nothing I aunswere Peter sought no such vanities Christ willeth him that would presume aboue the rest to bée inferiour to the rest Paule gaue no place to Peter Chrysostome sayeth that hée that in earth séeketh supremacie shall finde in