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A07898 The regiment of the Church as it is agreable with Scriptures, all antiquities of the Fathers, and moderne writers, from the Apostles themselues, vnto this present age. Bell, Thomas, fl. 1593-1610. 1606 (1606) STC 1827; ESTC S101485 157,812 234

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the text in the end as in the beginning of the sermon Hereupon it followed of necessitie that some for want of skil who euer were most desirous to haue the place some for disdaine of superioritie in their betters and others vpon licentious saucinesse did destroy more and withdrawe moe people from liking of the Gospell in one moueth then graue Preachers of great learning and rare gifts were able to builde vp againe in one whole yeare I will not disclose all I knowe in this behalfe for that I haue no pleasure therein Onely I wish that all Preachers will hereafter studie seriously how and what to Preach before they take in hand that most excellent and heauenly exercise And so I wil conclude this section with the graue censure of Maister Musculus His words are these Habent ministri Christi indeterminatam quandam potestatem quam in ijs rebus esse dicimus de quibus nihiless expresso verbo determinatūa domin● tamen aliqua ratione ad hoc conducunt vt ministerium ipsorum velcōmodius vel vtilius impleatur The ministers of Christ haue a certaine vndetermined power which consisteth in those things of which our lord hath determined nothing expressely in his word and yet the same things serue to this end that their Ministerie may be either more commodiously or more profitably accomplished Loe the Church hath power freedome to order those things which our Lord hath not expreslely determined in his holy word Now it is most euident and apparent to all that read the Scriptures that our Lord hath not expressely appointed this minister and that minister when where and in what habit he shall preach and consequently the disposition and ordering thereof pertaineth to the gouernours of the Church The third Section of reading of Homilies in the Church The reading of learned Homilies in the Church pronounced by vnpreaching Ministers so termed scornfully are vehemently impugned by the patrons of the long expected presbyterie To whom I answere first that father Lati●●r that blessed Martyr compiled a whole booke of godly and learned Sermons my selfe haue seene the same which hee would neuer haue done if hee had thought it a thing vnlawfull to read or pronounce his Sermons in the Pulpit The like may be said of Saint Augustine Saint Ambrose and many others whose Sermons are this day extant in print in the greater part of Europe Secondly that the distinct reading of one of the godly and learned sermons or homilies setforth to be read in our English Churches is able to edifie and no doubt doth edifie the congregation more then doe many of their sermons who inueigh most bitterly against vnpreaching ministers But these men are therefore enemies to reading because they are carried away with a vaine Philantia and loue nothing better then to heare thēselues talking For which end they wander abroad many times leauing their owne charges either distitute or onely supplied by vnpreaching Ministers whom otherwise they condemne And this they effect with desire euen in those places where their presence is neither necessary nor yet much desired I speake not this either in defence of vnpreaching ministers for I wish with all my hart that euery church in England were furnished with a godly learned preacher or in dislike of their zeale who endeuoure themselues to preach often so that be done with eutaxia obediēce of higher powers with such reuerence ripenes due preparatiō as appertaineth to that heauēly exercise Thirdly that one of the homilies or sermons aforenamed pronounced by an vnpreaching minister as they odiously tearme him is intrinsecally and formally a sermon or a preaching consequently that he is truly said to preach who publikely and orderly pronounceth the same I proue it because to be vttered with a shrill or meane voyce with this or that gesture vpon the booke or without the booke and other like circumstances are all and euery of them mere accidentall and extrinsecall to a Sermon Whosoeuer shal hold the contrary opinion must perforce admit grosse absurdities flat contradictions and plaine impossibilities Fourthly if an vnlearned Minister shall receiue a learned Sermō learnedly orderly pēned by his learned friend shall cunne the same without the booke and after the rehearsall of his text shall pronounce the same distinctly and orderly in the Pulpit all the learned that heare him and know not the truth of the matter will say and that truly that he made a learned Sermon although he were but calvus comatus in rei veritate And euen so say I that he preacheth in the Pulpit who readeth Homilies penned to his hand Howsoeuer that be this is out of doubt that many reading the Homilies doe more edifie the congregation then many others that preach their owne collections I will not say inuentions and fansies and thinke themselues no fooles It is likewise out of doubt that the same Ministers doe preach Theologica though not theolagicè and consequently that is accōplished by them which is principally intended by their aduersaries Homelies be pith●e and sound but Sermons are often vnlearned and errours The fourth Section of reading of the Apocrypha in the Church The patrons of the presbyterie make most bitter exclamations against the reading of the Apocryphall bookes in the Church and they haue preuailed so farre with some of the simple sort and vulgar people that they will not once vouchsafe to reade or looke vpon those Bibles which haue the Apocrypha in them To whom I hope in God so to answere as shall be able to satisfie them if they will be satisfied with reason I Therfore say first that the word apocryphos in the original Greek tongue signifieth hid or secret and thereupon certaine books contained within the corps of the holy Bible and deliuered to the primitiue and auncient Churches succeeding were called Apocrypha for that they were not acknowledged of the Church to be canonicall that is to say to be the canon or rule of faith as the other Scriptures are Secondly that these Apocryphall bookes were euer in high esteeme in the Church of God as the holy wrytings of holy men and were also thought meete to be read in the Churches as containing sit and necessarie matter aswell for the knowledge of the hystories as for the instruction of Godly manners This to bee so will bee cleare and euident to all those that can and 〈◊〉 to peruse seriouslie the ancient Councells the holy Fathers and the histories of the churche Whereof I shall here in briefe recounte some s●we for the helpe of the simple and thankfull Reader And hereby the way the gentle Reader shall vnderstand that maister Iunius a great learned man and of high esteeme in the reformed churches hath published notes vpon the Apocryphall bookes Saint Hierome hath these expresse words Si●utergo Iudith Tobyae Machabaeorum libros legit quidem Ecclesia sedinter Canonicas scripturas non recipit sic haec
the holy Ministerie Fourthly that such garments may bee ordained for decencie and for edification Fiftly that the vse of such garments cannot be condemned by any Text of Scripture nor yet they iustly accused of any sinne who appoint them to be worne Sixtly that no abuse of man Antichrist or the maister-divell of hell can so pollute them but they may this day be lawfully vsed of the faithfull Seventhly that the Church may ordaine ceremonies for honest and godly significations The ancient Councel of Carthage which was holden about the same time and at which S. Austin was present hath these expresse words Vt diaconus tempore oblutionis tantum vel lectionis alba induatur Let the Deacon weare a white ga men onely in the time of oblation and reading Do the Deacons did we are Albes Surplesses or white ves●ores name them as yee list so you agree in the thing it selfe aboue a 1200. yeares agoe and that in the time of divine seruice At this councell were present 214. Bishops of which S. Augustin was one and yet all these holy men living in those dayes when no corruption of Religion had crept into the Church affirme constantly with vniforme consent that it was the custome of the Church to weare white garments in time of divine seruice M. Beza in his Epistle to certaine Englishmen demaunding his opinion touching the wearing of cappes and garments aswel in the common vse as in the Ministerie and Church seruice answered in these wordes Respondemus etsi ista nostro quidem iudicio non recte revehuntur in ecclesiam tamea quum non sint ex earum rerum genere quae per se impie sunt non videri nobis illas tanti momenti vt propterea vel pastors i●is de●crendum sit potiùs minislerium quàm vt vestes illas assumant vel gregibus omitt endum publicum pablnum potiùs quàm ita veslitos pastores audiant We answere that albert as we thinke these things are not well brought into the Church againe yet seeing they be not wicked or euill of themselues and of their owne nature they seeme not to vs to be a matter of so great moment that therefore either the Pastors should forsake the Ministerie rather then weare them or the sheepe want their publique forrage rather then heare their pastors so at●yred The same Beza in another Epistle to M. Grindal then Bishop of London being demaunded whether the Pastors ought rather to refuse the Ministerie then to weare caps surplesses this cautele being added that they are not made for any holinesse Religion or worship but for order and pollicie answereth in these wordes Respondeo minimè mihi videri deserendas ecclesias propter vestes aut pileos aut aliquid eiusmodi verè medium indifferens I answere that in my opinion they ought not to forsake the Church for cappes garments or for any like thing which is indifferent of it selfe indeed Thus writeth M. Beza when his counsell and opinion was required concerning the wearing of the surplesse and other Ceremonies in our English Church Out of whose words I note First that M. Beza did not fully vnderstand the state of our Church which I gather by the word Revehuntur are brought into the Church againe Where indeed if true information had beene giuen let them looke vnto it that report to forren countries so sinisterly of their Soveraigne and natiue coūtries he would haue iudged better of the case Secondly that the ministers ought not to refuse the ministerie nor to make such cōtentiō for the wearing of that surples such like things Thirdly that the cappe surples the like ceremonies are things truly indifferēt of their own natures in thēselues Which point if it be wel marked wil make good the vse of al ceremonies in our English church To cōclude M. Beza in the end closing vp of his Epistle exhorteth our English brethren to obey the Q. Maiestie all the Bishops in the land Idque ex animo and that sincerely Which counsel they neither followed then nor yet do now follow the same they seemed then willing to reply vpon his resolution But no man can please them that speaketh not Placentia and as they shall appoint him to say and do The Surples Tippit Cappe and the like are popish ceremonies and haue beene prophaned by the papists and therefore may not now be vsed I answere both with S. Austin and with M. Calvin to this in soluble so supposed obiection wh●h indeede is of no force at all to moue any man to disobey the lawes of the Church S. Austin writing to Publicola who desired to be resolved in such kinde of questions hath these wordes Cum templa idola luci si quid huiusmodi data potestate evertuntur quamvis manifestum est cum id agimus non ea nos honorare sed potius detestari ideo tamen in vsus nostros privatos duntaxat proprios non debemus inde aliquid vsurpare vt appareat nos pietate ista descernere non avaritia Cum vero in vsus communes non proprios ac privatos vel in honorem dei veri convertuntur hoc de illis fit quod de ipsis hominibus cum ex sacrilegis 〈◊〉 impijs in veram religionem mutantur Hoc deus intelligitur docuisse illis testimorijs quae ipse proposuisti cum de luco alicnorum deorum iussit ligna ad holocaustum adhiberi Et de Hiericho vt omne aurum argentum aeramentum inferretur in the sauros Domini When temples Idoles groues and such like things are by authoritie overthrowne although it bee manifest that when we doe that we honour them not but detest them yet for all that we may not therefore conuert them to our owne private vses onely and commoditie that it may appeare that we destroy them for Religion-sake and not for couetousnesse But when they are not converted to our owne priuate vses but into common vses or to the honour of the true god then that is done in them which is done and brought to passe in them which is wrought in men themselues when of idolaters and wicked persons they are chaunged into true religion This God himselfe taught in those testimonies which thou thy selfe hast vsed when hee commanded that the wood of that grove which was dedicated to str●nge Gods should be taken and vsed for his sac●●tices And of Hiericho that all the gold siluer and brasse should be brought into the treasurie of the Lord. M. Calvin is of the same iudgement whole words are these Neque n. nobis hodiè religio est templa retinere quae polluta fuerunt ●delis accommodare in meliorem vsum quae nos non obstringit quod propter consequentiam legi additum est Fateor quidem quaecunque ad superstitionē fovendā spectant è medio tollendaesse modò ne praecise vrgendo quod per se medium est
not to take vpon them to alter those ceremonies which higher powers haue appointed Thirdly that wee must not be curious to demaund reasons for euery ceremonie Fourthly that all ceremonies are tollerable which containe not in them manifest superstition and imp●etie Fiftly that Copes Vestments Candels Exorcismes Crossings and such like are not things of suff●cient moment to cause Schisme and dissention in the Church but that all such things must be left and wholy referred to the consideration of higher powers And both Bucer and Zuinglius teacheth the same doctrine as is alreadie proued The third Obiection Now the Church is troubled with Chauncellours Commissaries Officials and such like for defence whereof no reason can be yeelded The Answere The antiquitie of Chauncellours and Officials or of the Substitutes and Vicars of Bishops which is all one in the thing it self is such of so great authority in Gods church that both old and late writers of best iudgement moderation and learning haue acknowledged and approued the same The auncient Councell of Ancyran which was afore the Nicen councell euen almost 13. hundred yeares agoe hath these expresse words Vicarijs Episcoporum quos graci corepiscopos vocāt non licere vel presbyteros vel diaconos ordinare sed nec presbyteris civitatis sine episcopi praecepto ampliùs aliquid imperare nec sine authoritate literarum eius in vnaquaque parochia aliquid agere We decree saith this councell that it is not lawfull for the Vicars or Substitutes of Bishops whom the Greekes call fellow-bishops or coadiutors to order either Priests or Deacons neither yet to bee lawfull to the Priests of the Citie to command any thing else without the Bishops authoritie or without the authoritie of his letters to doe any thing in any parish The auncient councell of Neocaesarea and the Councell of Antioch being likewise of great antiquitie doe acknowledge and approue the saide Vicars or Substitutes of Bishops Hemingius agreeth with the Canons of the afore-named councels deliuering his opinion in these wordes Hac potestate ecclesia ordinat ministros pro commodo suo vt omnia ordinatè fiant ad instaurationem corporis Christi Hinc ecclesia purior sequuta tempora Apostolorum alios patriarchas alios episcopos alios corepiscopos alios pastores catechistas instituit Sequitur decori partes sunt duae Prior vt excitemur ad pietatem illis adminiculis Posterior vt modestia gravitas in pietatis tractatione eluceat By this power the Church ordereth Ministers for her owne good that all things may bee done in order for the instauration of the body of Christ. Hence the pure church which followed after the dayes of the Apostles appointed some to be Patriarches some to be Bishops some Coadiutors Vicars or fellow-bishops othersome Pastors Catechists Comelinesse hath two parts the first that we may be drawen to pietie by these helpes the other that modestie and gravitie may shine in the ordinance of pietie Out of these words I note first that the Church may make and constitute diuerse degrees of Ministers for her owne peace and for the building vp of Christes mysticall body Secondly that Patriarches Arch-bishops and Substitutes or Suffragans of Bishops and such like were ordained euen then when the Church was in her puritie A most worthy observation remember it well gentle Reader Thirdly that Ceremonies are some helpes to bring men vnto pietie M. Bucer M. Zanchius and M. Calvin the greatest Patrons of Presbiterie doe all agree vnto this my doctrine acknowledging it for the doctrine of the best and purest Churches next after the Apostles-dayes In regard of brevitie I surcease from recital of their words The Reply The Church of Geneva where M. Calvin was the chief in his time hath neither Patriarches nor Arch-bishops nor Suffragans or substitute vicars The Answere I answere with M. Calvin himselfe whose wordes are these Talis morositas deterrima est pestis quum morem ecclesiae vnius volumus pro vniversali lege valere Such morositie is a pestilent mischiefe when we will haue the manner of one Church to be in place of an vniversall law Yea if M. Calvin were this day liuing he would not affirme the vsage of Geneva to be a fit paterne for the gouernment of our English Church Many Ceremonies and constitutions agree well to our Church which were nothing convenient to some other Hence commeth it that the Church hath authoritie as I haue alreadie prooued to constitute make and publish such Canons Rules and Ordinances as tend to the common good and peaceable government thereof The 4. Obiection The Bishops take vpon them to giue the holy Ghost when they ridiculously make Ministers For they say Receiue ye the holy Ghost The Answere I answere that the manner of ordering Ministers vsed in our English Church descended by tradition from the best most auncient and purest Churches Which thing Saint Ambrose Saint Augustin Saint Hierome and all the holy Fathers doe constantly affirme with vniforme assent Neither doth the Bishop take vppon him to give the holy Ghost but humbly and reuerently pronounceth Christes wordes according to the vsuall practise of all Churches in best approoued times thereby signifying vnto the newly ordered Ministers their principall charge and dutie and assuring them of the assistance of Gods holy Spirit if they labour in their calling as they ought to doe Which vsage of our English Church is consonant aswell to the practise of auncient Churches as to the doctrine of Saint Paul himselfe to Timothie when hee saith Wherefore I put thee in remembraunce thou stirre vp the gift of GOD which is in thee by the putting on of mine hands For albeit all things necessarie for our salvation bee contained in the Scriptures either expresly or by neceslarie consequence yet are many other things very profitable for the externall gouernment of the Church which are partly receiued by tradition from the Apostles and partly added by the authoritie of the Church as circumstances of times places and persons did require Of this point of doctrine M. Zuinglius disputeth very learnedly in a large discourse against the Anabaptists His wordes are these Apostolos baptizatos fuisse nusquālegimus nisi quod de duobus tantùm mentio fiat Iohan. 1. Vbi tamen idem hoc non disertè expressum est sed obscuriùs innuitur Quod si ergo vestro more nihil eorum factum esse dicemus quae scripturis sacris non continentur iam D. virginem Mariam ipsos quoque Apostolos baptismi signo nunquam inauguratos fuisse fateri cogemur quoa ab omni pietate religione est quàm alienissimum Sequitur caeterùm quòd ad dogmata fides spectat eas res quae fidem nostram internum hominem informant perpetuò hoc ce● presenti antidoto vtendum est quod Deus non praecepit credere vt credamus adsalutem necessarium non est Cultum hunc non descripsit
nec iniunxit Dominus ergo illi placere acceptus esse non potest Ceremoniarum autem ratio longè alia est Nec enim dicere licebit de ceremonijs istis in Scriptura nihil proditum est ergo ceremonijs istis vsi non sunt quod ipsum in exemplo divae virginis Apostolorum abundè satis demonstratum est We reade in no place of the holy Scripture that the Apostles weare baptized saue onely that mention is made of two in S. Iohn Where for all that the same is not plainely expressed but obscurely infinuated If therefore wee shall follow your manner and denie all things which are not conteyned in the holy scriptures then certes we shall bee compelled to graunt that neither the blessed Virgin Marie nor the Apostles them selues were euer baptized which doubtlesse is a strange assertion and farre from all pietie and religion But touching doctrines of Faith and those things which informe our faith the inward mā we must ever vse this as a present preseruatiue what God hath not cōmanded vs to beleeue to beleeue that is not necessarie to our saluation Our Lord neither appointed nor inioyned this kinde of worship therfore it can neither please nor bee acceptable to him But touching ceremonies the case is farre different For wee may not say there is no mention made of these Ceremonies in the Scripture therefore the Apostles vsed them not which thing is prooued abundantly by the example of the blessed Virgin and of the Apostles Out of this must excellent discourse I obserue these worthy documents First that all things necessarie for our saluation are comprised in the holy Scriptures Secondly that many other things necessarie for Church-gouernment are receiued by tradition Thirdly that it is not a good Argument to reason after this manner there is no mētion of these things in the Scriptures therfore the Apostles vsed them not or therefore they are not lawfull This doctrine is agreeable to Saint Austins rule who calleth it insolent madnes to withstand and contradict that which is receiued by the custome of the whole Church Yea it is consonant to S. Pauls practise against the malapert saucinesse of contentious persons CHAP. XI Of the Presbyterie and Seignorie SOme otherwise learned doe this day labour with might and maine to proue that our English church ought to be gouerned with a Presbyterie that is with Pastors Teachers Laicall vnpriested Elders and Deacons These 4. as they contend are the lawfull Gouernors of euery particular congregation Pastors and teachers for procuring the aduancement of the faith of the Church Elders for the censure of their conuersation and life and Deacons for the comfort of the poore That that the truth of this controuersie of which many talke but very few vnderstand it aright may be laide open to the indifferent Reader I haue thought it good to proceed therein by way of Propositions The 1. Proposition THat kinde of gouernment which may bee altered for the circumstances of times places and persons is neither necessarie nor perpetuall But the gouernment by Pastors Doctors Elders and Deacons if euer there were any such kind of gouernment in the Christian world may be altered and chaunged Ergo it is neither necessarie nor perpetuall the Argument is in forme and the Proposition most cleare euident to euery childe The difficultie or doubt if there be any resteth in the assumption But I haue prooued it at large where I disputed of the Churches authoritie in things indifferent Yea there was a time euen in the dayes of the Apostles when the Church had no Deacons There was also a time euen in the dayes of the same Apostles when the Church had no vnpriested or vnpreaching Elders Who so readeth seriously the Acts of the Apostles and S. Pauls Epistles can not bee ignorant in this behalfe The 2. Proposition CHrist did not translate the Sanhedrim Synedrion or Consistorie of the Iewes vnto his Church in the newe Testament I proue it first because both their lesse kinde of Sanhedrim and their great as they did afterward diuide it was onely in one place for all the Realme viz. First at Sylo then at Hierusalem their chiefe citie vntill the worst and last alterations therein but the seekers of the newe English Presbyterie would haue the like if not the very same to bee erected in euery congregation Againe in both Consistories of the Iewish Sanhedrim aswell in the greater of the 70 as in the lesser of the 23. they were all either Priests or Doctors of the Lawe the King and the Peeres of the Realme only excepted Thirdly then Sanhedrim had partly politicall partly eclesiastical iurisdiction both together but our Presbyters haue onely ecclesiasticall seeing as they graunt to be Iudges in ciuill places is onely the Office of the ciuill Magistrate The 3. Proposition THe English supposed Presbyterie is not compatible with a Christian Monarchie but must perforce despoyle her and bereaue her of her royall soueraignitie I proue it because the sayd Presbyterie challengeth vnto her selfe all authoritie in causes ecclesiasticall the supreme ouer-sight of which causes pertaineth to the ciuill Magistrate as is already proued The 4. Proposition THE English desired Presbyterie is not grounded vpon the word of GOD. I proue it because the Scriptures alledged by the Patrons thereof doe conclude no such matter The Textes are fiue in number being all that any way seeme to make for their purpose The first is out of the Gospell tell the Church To this Text I answere in this manner First that wee for the true meaning of this portion of Scripture will giue credite to Saint Chrysostome and the rest of the auncient Fathers The Church to which this complaint must bee made doth signifie the Bishops and gouernours of the Church who according to all generall Councels auncient Canons and the continuall practise of the Church were euer to this day reputed acknowledged and taken for the Church representiue Secondly that if we will be ruled by M. Calvins censure Christ doth not here say any thing of the church of the New Testament but alludeth to the order of the Church of the Iewes Thirdly that by the iudgement of the graue and learned writer M. Bullinger a great Patron of the Presbyterie Christ speaketh here of the whole congregation and not to a fewe persons of whom consisteth the supposed Presbyterie And this exposition is so agreeable to the Text as none with right reason can denie the same Yea this sense is indeed agreeable to the verdict of S. Chrysostome and of all the auncient Fathers and to the continuall practise of the Church in all ages These are M. Bullingers wordes Quamobrem hinc efficitur ecclesiam habere potestatem mandatum eligendiministros Hoc autem facere potest veltota ecclesia vel fidi homines ab ecclesia ad hoc electi prout commodius vtilius ad pacem
authentique powers in one people two diuers law-makings and dominions vnlesse it be by subordination euen as there is no place for two heads in one body The same Musculus in another place hath these golden wordes but we without dissimulation thinke thus Like as the Christian Prince hath chiefe power care in religion so hath he also power to constitute and make ecclesiasticall lawes to reforme abuses in religion The very nature of making lawes doth not suffer that they command make Lawes who haue not power to defend the Lawes and to take punishment of the transgressors and that the Magistrate should protect the lawes and punish the offendors who shal not haue power to make the lawes which he doth defend But Certes among men he that hath power to command hath also power to take reuenge I know it appertaineth to the magistrate to punish not onely the transgressors of his owne commandements but also of Gods But the case is altered if the question be made of lawes ecclesiasticall neither divulged by God immediately neither yet by his Apostles but by men within the ministerie of the Church Here doubtlesse it is not sit that they which are of meaner authoritie shall make Lawes and they who are of higher power must see them kept Men of meaner degree may cause lawes to be obserued but superiours onely can make lawes whose authoritie cōpelleth to obey them and who haue power giuen thē of God to punish the disobedient While therefore they ascribe the constitution and promulgation of ecclesiasticall lawes to those whom they call gouernours of the church to wit the presbyterie and leaue only to the magistrate power to see them kept and to punish the offenders what other thing do they but giues that to inferiours being subiects which of right belongeth to higher powers and taketh it away from superiours to whom euery soule must be subiect And so they peruerting the ordinance of God make of subiects Lawe-makers and of Law-makers subiects Thus writeth this learned man Out of these learned discourses of these two most learned and famous Writers I note these worthy documents First that vnder most Christian Princes where the Presbyterie beareth no sway the word of God is soundly preached the Sacraments rightly administred publique prayer duly celebrated the poore sufficiently relieued and vices sharply punished Secondly that all these things will not content the maisters of the Presbyterie vnlesse they may haue Princes at their commaund Thirdly that if the Patrons of the Presbyterie will needes haue all things after the manner of the Primitiue Church then must they cleanse the leaprous raise the dead worke miracles as the Apostles did Fourthly that the authors of the Presbyterie are arrogant contentious froward and saucie fellowes To which the Doctrine of our gracious soueraigne in his Bazilycon Doron is right consonant when he telleth vs very grauely besides many other vices which he there reckeneth vp that we shall neuer finde with any Hic-land or border-theeues greater ingratitude and moe lyes and vile periuries then with this kinde of people Fiftly that they denie vnto Princes authoritie to make ecclesiasticall lawes Sixtly that not the Presbyterie but the ciuill magistrates kings Emperours Monarches and other independant superiours haue power to make canons and ordinances ecclesiasticall Seuenthly that whiles they assigne vnto princes onely the execution of their Lawes they make of inferiours superiours and of subiects Law-makers and so peruert the holy ordinance of God The 4. Obiection The gouernmēt of the church in the time of the Apostles was the best most perfect Ergo no reason why it should be changed The Answere I answere First that the Church in the Apostles time was most perfect indeed concerning faith and doctrine absolutely as also touching external gouernment if regard be duly had vnto that time Secondly that there was not alwaies in the Apostolicall time one and the same externall gouernment of the Church as is alreadie proued Thirdly that the externall pollicie of the Church may admit alteration and change without all preiudice of faith and conscience according to the circumstances of times places and persons And consequently that Christian Princes enioy this day very lawfully and laudably the chiefe care and supreame ouer-sight thereof Men of best account in the reformed Churches doe in plaine tearmes approue and confirme this my doctrine Maister Caluin hath these wordes Scimus autem politiam pro varietate temporum recipere imò exigere varias mutationes Wee knowe that the pollicie of the Church receiueth yea requireth diuers alterations according to the varietie of time Maister Musculus a man of great zeale singular learning care and gifts confirmeth Maister Caluins opinion in these words The state of the Church was such at that time that the ministers could not be chosen otherwise because they then were without a Christian magistrate If thou wilt call againe the manners of those times thou must first call againe their state and condition Againe in an other place the same author writeth thus I answere that the Churches of God were at that time destitute of a Godly and faithfull magistrate Wherefore all iudgements betweene brethren brethren were then exercised by the Seniours in the ecclesiasticall senate as the custome also was in those christian churches which the Apostles planted But the condition is farre otherwise in those Churches which by the benefit of God haue christian Princes and Magistrates in whom resteth authoritie power law-making and gouernance not onely in prophane but in holy things also It is a most pestilent errour that some thinke no otherwise of the christian magistrate then of a prophane gouernance whose power reacheth onely to things prophane Haec ille Maister Beza hath these golden wordes We must not simply looke or regard what the Apostles did in the gouernment of the Church seeing the circumstances are most diuers and variable and therefore without preposterous zeale Cacozelia all things cannot in all places and times be called to one and the same forme or order but rather the ende and inuariable purpose of them must bee looked vnto and that manner and forme of doing things must be chosen which tendeth directly thereunto Haec Beza Out of these most excellent and golden discourses of these great learned men who were very famous and highly renowned in the best reformed churches I gather these memorable obseruations First that the Church is not fixed or tied to any one setled kind of gouernment but may be changed in her gouernance as the circumstances of times places and persons shall require Secondly that it is very fit and conuenient sometimes to alter the gouernment of the church Thirdly that the church may not bee gouerned now as it was in those daies when there were no christian magistrates Fourthly that wee must not respect so much what the Apostles did as their intent and purpose the scope and marke which they aimed at CHAP. 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see what subtiltie and craftie dealing contentious Satan vseth who goeth about by these dissentions in external matters to make againe a most ready way and passage for Poperie to enter into our gates But in such matters doubtlesse the Apostles rule must be obserued Whose vse and administration he saith is in our arbitrement and power yet so that we doe nothing against Gods ordinance neither haue any desire to trouble the publique peace whereof we must haue an especial care for these externall matters It is therefore this day lawfull for vs also to institute and ordaine a newe the baptisme of infants although it had not hither to bin vsed in the church if any commoditie or good successe of peace and concord might insue thereupon Out of these learned discourses of these graue and learned Writers I obserue these memorable rules for the benefit of the gentle Reader First that the ceremonies this day of our English Church are the same that were vsed in the church in the purest times 2 that in things which are neither against faith nor against manners the custome of the church must be a rule for vs to follow This is a most worthy lesson a most excellent rule and a most necessarie obseruation Thirdly that the dissentions and schismes stirred vp about externall rites and ceremonies proceede from the crastie and deceitful dealing of the diuel Fourthly that the Church hath power to make and constitute any lawes which are not repugnant and contrarie to the word of God Fiftly that our Church hath this day power to haue instituted the Baptisme of Infants although it had not beene vsed in former ages And consequently that it hath power a fortiori to set downe orders and lawes for the apparell of Ministers for surplesles square Caps interrogatories in baptisme and bowing of the knee at the name of Iesus for kneeling at the holy Communion for giuing thanks of women for their deliuerance from the perill of child-birth for prohibiting to Preach without licence for Reading of Homilies and the like Which rules and obseruations if they were wel remembred and duly obserued all schismes dissention whisperings and mutinies would wholy sur●●ase in this Church of England The third member of Deacons and their office in the Church In the booke of orders there is an office called the Deacon whose description is not to be found in Gods booke namely consisting in helping the Priest in diuine seruice especially when he ministreth the holy Communion in reading holy Scriptures Homilies in the congregation instructing the youth in the Catechisme in Baptizing and Preaching if he be admitted thereunto by the Bishoppe Thus Write the patrons of the Eldership and earnestly wished Presbiterie to whom I answere in this manner First that if it were true which they say as it is not indeed yet would it not followe that the office of a Deacon this day vsuall in the Church should be a thing vnlawfull to be vsed The reason is euident because as I haue already proued the Church hath authoritie to constitute make and ordaine any lawes ceremonies canons ordinances and orders which are for the good of the Church and not against the word of God for the better confirmation whereof let vs heare the verdict of maister Zanchius that most famous Writer These are his expresse words interea tamen non improbamus patres quod iuxta variātū verbi dispensandi tum regendae Ecclesiae rationem varios quoque ordines ministrorū multiplicarint quando id eis liberum fint sicut nobis quando constat id ab illis fuisse factum honestis de causis ad ordinē ad decorū ad aedificationē ecclesiae pro eo tempore pertinentibus Neuerthelesse we doe not discommend or reproue the fathers because they did multiply and increase the orders of the ministers according to the various manner of dispensing the word and of gouerning the Church Seeing that was in their libertie and power as it is also in ours And seeing also it is euident that they did that for honest causes for order comlinesse and edification of the Church as that time did require Out of these golden wordes I obserue first that the holy fathers in former ages did institute diuers orders of Ministers which orders though they be not found expressely in Gods booke yet this great learned man dareth not disalowe or reproue the same But our young maisters who for learning are vnworthy to carrie his bookes after him dare condemne them roundly and make hauocke of the Lawes of the ancient Church Secondly that the Church both then and now had and still hath full power and authoritie to constitute diuers orders of Ministers in the Church Let this obseruation bee well marked for it is of great importance and no small moment Thirdly that such orders and constitutions doe pertaine to the order comelinesse and edification of the Church Fourthly that these things may be changed at the discretion of the Church as the circumstances of the times places and persons doe require I answere secondly that the office of Deacons is no otherwise this day in our English Churches then it was of old in all Churches throughout the Christian world I proue it for that both ancient councells of Nice Carthage and others and also the holy fathers doe testifie the same so copiously as none but younglings of no reading can be ignorant thereof Thirdly that Deacons in the Apostolique time and primitiue Church did not onely serue the table and minister to the poore but also baptize and preach the Gospell I prooue it first because there were Deacons at Ephesus at Philippi and in Crete as may euidently be gathered of the Epistles which were written to Timothie Titus and the Philippians And for al that there was in those places at that time such paucitie of Christians as there could bee either small neede or none at all for Deacons to attend vpon the tables Secondly because the solemnitie of imposition of hands vsed in the ordering and consecration of Deacons doth argue a further and more excellent function then the bare and sole ministerie of the table This was well obserued by the great learned Doctor Illyricus whose wordes are these Hinc autem apparet eos non tantum ad dispensationem elemosynarum alimentorumque sed etiam ad institutionem auditorum fuisse adhibitos sicut illi Act. 6. etiam simul docuerunt non tantum aeconomiam administrarunt sed nimirum munus illorum fuit tantum rudiores instituere seu catechismum tradere dum presbyteri omnibus sufficere laboribus nequeunt Hence it is apparant that the Deacons were ordained not onely to distribute almes and reliefe to the poore but also to instruct and teach their auditors as they also of whom mention is made in the acts were occupied in teaching and not onely in houshold-businesse For their office was to instruct the ignorant and to Catechise
while the pastorall Elders could not vndergoe all the labours Loe Illyricus who vnderstood the Scriptures as well as our Brownists and Martinists affirmeth plainely and constantly that the office of Deacons euen in the Apostles time was not onely to attend on the poore but also to instruct and Preach the Gospell I proue it Thirdly because Philippe the Deacon did not onely attend the poore but was also occupied in Baptizing and in Preaching As also for that Saint Steuen another Deacon made a long learned and most godly Sermon vnto the obstinate and stiffe-necked Iewes in which he proued at large that he did serue and worship the euerliuing God aright euen that God who chose the fathers afore Moses was borne and before their Temple was built The first Obiection Steuen the Deacon did not preach at all but onely defended himselfe in a long Oration against the wicked and slaunderous accusations of the stiffe-necked Iewes which to doe is lawfull not for Deacons onely but also for all other Christians The Answere I answere first that Saint Steuen answered in the way of Preaching for edification sake not in the way of pleading for his owne defence albeit one may answere accusations in a Sermon For first hee sharpely reprooued them terming them stiffe necked and of vncircumcised hearts and eares Secondly hee was in the sinagogue of the Libertines Thirdly the end and scope of his speech was to proue the true and pure worship of God neither to be affixed to the Temple nor to any externall ceremonies All which being put together it is cleere that Saint Steuen made a godly Sermon This my answere is confirmed by the verdict of Illyricus whose words are these Videtur autem hic Stephanus egressus esse metas suae vocationis qui magis apostoli quam diaconi munus vsurpaverit docendo disputando miracula edendo Sed sic deus solet suam quandam viam libere ingredi spirando suo spiritu vbi vult Steuen seemes here to haue passed the limits of his calling in vsing the function rather of an Apostle then of a Deacon teaching disputing and working miracles But thus God will vse his owne waies breathing with his spirit where he listeth Againe in another place the same Illyricus hath these words primum est longa concto Stephani vsque ad 53. Versum de●●de est glortosum martyrium eiusdem First there is a long Sermon which Steuen made vntil the 53. Vers then followeth his glorious martyrdome M. Aretius and M. Gualterus doth both of them affirme constantly that Saint Steuen vsed to preach vsualy I answere secondly that if it be true which the obiection thereof supposeth that an Apologie cannot consist with a true and godly Sermon then will it follow of necessitie that Saint Paule did not Preach before Foelix the gouernour of Iurie which to hold is against M. Caluin and all learned Writers It will also followe thereupon that Saint Peter did not Pre●ch when hee answered to those that accused the Apostles of Drunkennesse before the Iewes and all the strangers that did inhabite Ierusalem I answere thirdly that the custome of the church is of great authority for the true sense meaning of the doubtfull texts of Scripture By which custome it is euident that Deacons did Baptize and preache in the primitiue church and that both Steuen and Philip did the same although they were but Deacons Saint Hierome hath these words Non quidem abnuo hanc esse Ecclesiarum consuetudinem vt ad eos qui longè in minoribus Vrbibus per Presbyteres Diaconos baptizati sunt Episcopus ad inuocationem Sancti spiritus manum impositurus excurrat I doe not denie that this is the custome of the church that the Byshop should goe to those which in Villages a farre of were baptized by the Priests and Deacons and lay his hands vpon them with inuocation of the Holie Ghost Loe the custome of the church approoued the baptisme of Deacons which shall bee made more apparant in answere to the next obiection The second Obiection Philip that baptized the Eunuch was Philip th' Apostle not Philip the Deacon Besides hee was then an Euangelist and so baptized preached as an Euangelist and not by vertue of his Deaconshippe The answere I answere first that this Philip wherof the controuersie it made was not an Apostle but one of the seaue Deacons The reason hereof is euident because all th' Apostles as S. Luke writeth remained 〈◊〉 at Ierusalem and consequently it must needes bee Philip the Deacon who was dispersed with the rest and came to 〈◊〉 where hee now preached and baptized The words of the text are these they were all scattered abroad through the Regions of Iudaea and Samaria except th' Apostles Againe then came Philippe into the Citie of Samaria and preached Christ vnto them Againe thus Nowe when the Apostles which were at Ierusalem heard say that Samaria had receyued the worde of God they sent vnto them Peter and Iohn By these seuerall Texts it is most apparant to all indifferent readers that Philippe which baptized the Aethiopian was none of the Apostles but was that Deacon which came into Samaria Philippe th' Apostle being still at Ierusalem But the Patrons of the Eldershippe vse to shuffle vppe Scriptures they care not how so they may seeme to conclude their intent and purpose Let vs heare what Maister Caluin saith whose words are these Caesareae vsos fuisse dicit hospitio Philippi quem Euangelistam vocat licet vnus esset e septem Diaconis vt visum est capite sexto Diaconiam illam fuisse temporale munu● hinc conijcere promptum est quod Philippo alioqui liberumnon fuisset relicta Ierosolimae Caesaream migrare He telleth vs that they lodged with Philippe at Caesarea whome he calleth Euangelist although hee were indeed one of the seuen Deacons Hence wee may gather that his Deaconshippe was but a temporarie office for otherwise he could not haue left Ierusalem and haue gone to Caesarea Where I must needs wish the Reader to obserue by the way that seeing the office of Deacons was temporarie and mutable much more may the same bee saide of vnpriested Elders if anic such were in any age place or time I answere secondly that Philip which baptized the Aethiopian Eunuch was not onely once a Deacon but still remained so and that he was called an Euangelist because he did Euangelize and preach the Gospell In which sense e●●ry preacher may thus be truelie called an Euangelist as both M. Bullinger other learned writers graunt This to be so the verie expresse words of the text doe prooue it so plainly that no denyall can be made therof Thus writeth Saint Luke Eiselthontes eis ton ●icon Philippou tou Euangelistou ontos ec ton hepta emeinamen par auto Entring into the house of Philip th' Euangelist being one of the seauen wee aboade with
also in all other reformed churches wheresoeuer I therefore conclude this member with this Golden sentence of S. Austen if any thing be obserued vniuersallie of the whole church then not to obserue that or to call it into question is meere madnesse and desperate follie The sixt member of praying to be deliuered from Lightning Plague and sodaine death It is scornefully obiected against the prayers of the church that when wee pray to bee deliuered from plague famine and from other aduersitie wee pray without faith because wee haue no promise to receiue the things we pray for To whom I answere First that our Sauiour Christ taught vs so to pray when hee deliuered to his Church the forme of that prayer which we should daily vse Being the most exact and most perfect prayer that euer was or can be made Where the Notes of the Geneua Byble expound it to be deliuered from all aduersitie And consequently that we pray with saith seeing Holy writ is our warrant for that we pray Secondly that wee haue promise to receiue that wee pray for so far forth as standeth with Gods glorie and our soules health For Christ himselfe willeth vs to aske and wee shall receiue to seeke and wee shall finde to knocke and it shall be opened vnto vs. Yea he standeth knocking at the doore of our hearts and if wee will open the do●e to him hee will enter into the house of our hearts and dwell with vs and giue vs all things necessarie both for our bodies and for our soules And to assure vs thereof Christ willeth vs to beleeue that wee shall haue our request it shall bee done vnto vs. And if any will replie that many aske many things in prayer and yet doe not attaine the same to such I answere with Saint Iames in these words yee aske and receyue not because yee aske amisse that ye may lay the same out on your pleasures Thirdly that when our church prayeth to bee deliuered from all aduersitie she hath both the example and aduise of most holy men The holy Patriarch Iacob fearing to receyue some bodily harme and aduersitie of his brother prayed to God in this manner O God I pray thee deliuer mee from the hand of my brother from the hand of Esau for I feare him least hee will come and sinite mee the mother vpon the children King Dauid fearing to receyue bodilie harme of his sonne Absalon fled away from him and prayed God to turne the counsell of Achitophel who conspired with Absalon into foolishnes The whole congregation prayed to God to prosper their King when hee went forth to battell against the Ammonites And I deeme them no good subiects to our most gracious Soueraigne King Iames who will not pray to God vnfaynedlie to defende him from all aduersitie Neyther yet those persons who refuse to pray with our church for all happinesse aswell corporall temporarie as spirituall Eternall to our most vertuous Queene Anne the noble Prince Henry all the rest of that most Royall progenie Yea Christ himselfe forewarning his disciples of externall future aduersity willeth them to pray to bee defended from the same Praye saith Christ that your flight be not in the winter neither on the Sabboth day And besides the sixt petition of the Lords prayer which teacheth vs to pray to be defended from all aduersitie as S. Cyprian Ursinus and Illyricus with manie other learned wryters expound it and besides the fourth petition also which teacheth vs to pray for all things needfull for this life as the same wryters tell vs many examples of the new Testament doe make it cleere and euident that Christ was well pleased with their prayers who prayed for things to this life appertaining The Ruler prayed for the life of his Daughter Christ performed his desire Bartimaeus the sonne of Tymans desired to receiue his sight obtained his request Two blind men followed Christ and requested to receiue their sight hee yeelded to their petitions A woman a Canaanite desired Christ to helpe her Daughter who was miserablie vexed with a Deuill Christ cured her daughter presently Many other like exāples I might alledge but in steed therof this onelie goldē sentence of S. Augustine shall suffice Cum dicimus libera nos a malo nos admonemus cogitare nondum nos esse in eo bono vbi nullum patiemur malum Et hoc quidem vltimum quod in Dominica oratione positum est tam late tamque enidenter manifestè patet vt homo Christianus in qualibet tribulatione constitutus in hoc gemitus edat in hoc lachrymas fundat hinc exordiatur in hoc immoretur ad hoc terminet orationem When wee say Deliuer vs from euill wee admonish ourselues to consider with our selues that we are not as yet in that good estate where wee shall suffer no euill And this which is last placed in the Lords Prayer is extended so farre and so plainly that a Christian man moued with any kind of tribulatiō may in this petition sigh in this shed his teares begin herein continue herein and end his prayer herein Thus writeth this holy father And now where it is wont to be obiected against the custome of our Church that we know not that God wil deliuer vs from all such aduersitie as from lightning thunder fire water sodaine death and such like I answere that we are not to command God or to appoint him an houre but to expect his good time and to referre euery part and parcell of our petitions to his holy will and pleasure euer implied in all our prayers And againe that if we must pray for nothing but that onely which wee knowe God will grant we shall seldome or neuer pray for any thing at all No wee must not say to our neighbour ryding towards London God speede you well nor to the sicke persons GOD helpe you nor for the preseruation of his Maiestie GOD saue the King How absurde these things are euery childe can discerne and yet the patrons of the Presbyterie condemne our Church for Preaching to be defended from all aduersitie vpon such sillie fansies and slender groundes The seventh member of the oath ex officio It is thought a very haynous offence that the Church doth sometime require an oath whereby certaine persons are constrained to accuse themselues Which oath because some doe offer it by vertue of their place and charge committed to them is by some male-contents ironically termed the oath ex officio But I answere first that it is as vsually ministred in the Ciuill affaires of the common-weale as in the Ecclesiasticall causes of the Church whereof none can bee ignorant that haue any notice of the ordinarie practise of his Maiesties honourable Counsell in the North of England Which vsage though of great antiquitie hath for all that euer beene approued and deemed lawfull as well by the wisest
and best learned of the church as also of the common-weale of England vntill these last and worst dayes in which some fewe young Doctors of small reading haue audaciously taken vpon them to censure both our church and Kingdome in that behalfe 2. that it is noe small sinne for the inferiour to disobey the Lawe of his superiour in indifferent things of which sort and order is euery oath clad with circumstances to this case appertaining as it may euidently be prooued by the testimonie of the best both olde and moderne Writers It were enough for tryall hereof to call to minde what is alreadie Written But for better satisfaction of the friendly Reader I am content to alledge their testimonies whose iudgements the male-contents themselues will easily admit Maister Beza hath these expresse wordes Res alioqui per se mediae mutant quodammodo naturam quum aliquo legitimo mandato vel praecipiuntur vel prohibentur quia neque contra iustum praeceptum omitti possunt si praecipiantur neque contra interdictum fieri si prohibeantur Sequitur si n. conscientias propriè solus deus ligat tamen quatenus vel magistratus qui dei minister est iudicat interesse reip vt quippiam alio qui per se licitum non fiat vel ecclesia ordinis decori adeoque aedificationis rationem habens leges aliquas de rebus medijs ritè condit eiusmodi leges pijs omnino sunt observandae eatenus conscientias ligāt vt nemo sciens prudens rebellandi animo possit absque pece cato velfacere qua it a prohibentur vel omittere quae praecipiuntur Things otherwise of themselues indifferent doe after a sort change their nature so soone as by any lawfull precept they are either commaunded or prohibited because they neither can be omitted against a iust mandate if they be commaunded neither yet be done against an interdict when they are forbidden For albeit God alone doth properly bind the conscience yet for all that when the Magistrate being Gods minister iudgeth it expedient for the publique weale that a thing otherwise of it selfe lawfull be not done or the Church hauing respect to order and comlinesse and consequently to edification ordaineth lawes touching things indifferent then such Lawes must be altogether obserued of the godly and they so farre bind the consciences that no man can wittingly and willingly with a rebellious minde either doe the things so forbidden or omit the things so cōmanded but he shall thereby become guiltie of sinne Maister Martyr hath these wordes Quare hand nos latere oportet c. Wherefore we must not be ignorant that in the church there be three vertues of traditions Some of them are euidently deduced and gathered out of the Scriptures And touching this kinde all the faithful are bound to communicate together Other some are wholy repugnant to the word of God they must be reiected by what authoritie so euer they be obtruded And there be a third sort of traditions which we may call neutrall or indifferent because they are neither contrary to Gods word nor yet necessarily ioyned thereunto In which last kind we must obey the church three cautions being obserued First that they be not obtruded as a part of Gods worship or peculiar holinesse but as pertaining to order the ciuill commoditie of the church to comlinesse in diuine actions for all things are contained sufficiently in the holy Scriptures which pertaine to Gods worship and holinesse Secondly that they be not reputed so necessarie but that they may be changed if time so require Let the church keepe her interest in these indifferent things to appoint what shall bee thought most necessarie and meete to edifie the faithfull Last of all let not Gods people be burdened with too great a multitude of them Thus writeth this learned man The Churches in Heluetia in their confession of their faith after a long discourse of rites and things indiffe●●nt added these wordes Semper vero ecclesiae in huiusmodiritibus sicut medijs vsae sunt libertate id quod nos quoque facimus The Churches in such rites as in things indifferent haue euer vsed their libertie which libertie our selues also challenge The Churches in Svevia in their confession haue these wordes Tales multas sanè ecclesia hodie iure obseruat pro occasione quoque condit novas quas qui reiecerit is non hominum sed dei cuius traditio est quaecunqus vtilis est auctoritatem contemnit Many such traditions the Church this day obserueth aright and as occasion requireth she appointeth and maketh new ones which new orders whosoeuer shal reiect he contemneth the authoritie not of men but of God Out of these testimonies of these famous godly zealous and most learned writers I obserue these golden lessons First that things of their own nature indifferent doe after a sort change their nature so soone as they be cōmanded to be done or left undone by the setled lawes of the Church Secondly that they bind the consciences of all persons subiect to the Churches iurisdiction so far and in such sort that they cānot at any time or in any place transgresse the same without great sinne if such transgression be ioyned and annexed either to scandall or contempt Thirdly that whosoeuer reiecteth such lawes and ordinances of the Church contemneth the authoritie of God not of men Fourthly that he sinneth grieuously who either doth the things which the Church prohibiteth or omitteth the things which she commandeth to be done so long as her commandements remaine within the limits of things indifferent which she appointeth for order decencie and the common good of the Church I answere thirdly that the Church hath authoritie to impose euery lawfull ordinance and constitution which she deemeth profitable for the Church vpon euery person subiect to her iurisdiction This point is sufficiently proued alreadie both in this present Chapter and in many others throughout this discourse So that henceforth one onely thing remaineth for me to proue viz. That to minister the oath ex officio whereby one is bound to accuse himselfe is either a thing lawfull of it selfe or else Adiaphoron and a thing indifferent of it owne nature I attempt the proofe Euery thing is either good of it selfe as God the author and giuer of all goodnesse or euill of it selfe as the blaspheming of God or indifferent of it owne nature as golde money oyle wine and such like Now if the oath ex officio be good in it selfe then doubtlesse the Church may minister it to her subiects with out offence None that hath sence or reason will or can for shame denie the same Againe if it be Adiaphoron a thing of it owne nature indifferent then it is likewise in the power and libertie of the Church to impose the same vppon euery member within her iurisdiction This is so sufficiently proued as no deniall can bee made thereof It
THE Regiment of the Church AS IT IS AGREABLE WITH Scriptures all Antiquities of the Fathers and moderne Writers from the Apostles themselues vnto this present age I. Cor. 14. v. 40. v. 26. Let all things be done decently and in order Let all things be done to edification I. Cor. II. v. 16. If any man iust to be contentions we haue no such customes nor the Churches of God TC LONDON Imprinted by T. C. for William Welby and are to be sold at his Shop in Paules Church-yard at the Signe of the Grayhound 1606. TO THE MOST REVEREND FA ther my very good Lord Richard by Gods holy ordinance the Lord Arch-bishop of England grace and peace from God the father and from our Lord Iesus Christ. AS many things most reuerend father are both comely and profitable so neither is there neither can there be anything more necessarie in any well managed church or christian common weale then godly vniformitie and christian vnitie in pure Religion the proper and peculiar worship of the euerliuing God Which vnitie and vniforme conformitie for all that not onely the cruell and blood-thristie Papists in former times but the Brownists also and the Martinists cursed broodes untimely hatched detested of God and irkesome to the world haue of late daies endeuoured with might maine to disturbe extinguish it to take it quite out of the way For the speedie conuersion or else for the vtter confusion of which professed enemies of the godly vnitie and true christian peace of Gods Sion I deeme them right happie who can in any small measure concur by way of redresse and put to their helping hand Against the former sect I haue published many books challenging all English Iesuites Seminaries Iesuited Papists yea prouoking and adiuring them all ioyntly and seuerally to frame some answere either to all or to some one of the saide bookes But wil ye haue the truth their harts faile them their own consciēces accuse them they are at their wits end know not in the world what to say or write They will not answere and why I pray you because forsooth they cannot but to their owne shame and confusion euerlasting For if they could they would vndoubtedlie answere mee so to saue their owne credite and the life of their late harched Romish Religion About three yeeres agoe a railing Iesuit an odde swaggering Diuine terming himselfe E. O. in his detection against Maister D. Sutcliffe and Maister Willet taketh notice of the bookes which I haue published against them and telleth his Readers if they may beleeue him that the confutation of my workes is vndertaken But what followeth and the said confutation must be published if it shall be thought expedient By which words with the circumstances annexed thervnto wee may easily vnderstand three memorable points First that the Papists are mightilie troubled about the answearing of my bookes Secondly that they can not tell in the worlde how and in what sort to answere them Thirdly that they would haue all their Popish Vassalls to think that they haue alreadie answered them and that they are not published because it is not thought a thing expedient to bee done But I pray thee gentle Reader who will beleeue these Iesuits what wise man will euer thinke that the Iesuits haue for the space of eyght or nine yeares considered howe to answere my bookes and after the answere is vndertaken cannot tell if it bee expedient to publishe the same for as the Philosopher can tell them Vltimum in executione debet primum esse in intentione That which is the last in execution must bee the first in intention Yea the very light of Nature and daylie experience teacheth vs that in all our actions wee must chieflie and principallie respect the end for the which wee intende to doe them They dare not fight the combat valiantly neyther with the long sworde nor yet with the shorte They dare not encounter mee and cast mee their Gauntlet No no Negry quidem can bee extorted from their pennes Against the latter sect because they whollie dissent from the Papists and agree with our English Churche in the chiefest fundamentall points of Doctrine an other manner of methode and a different kinde of proceeding must bee vsed against them They exclaime with open mouthes and crie out against our English Church flying from our companies and detesting vs as prophane polluted and forlorne people They vse Conventicles Whisperings and meetings in Woodes Fieldes and odde corners They beare the simple people in hand that our Temples are prophaned our Doctrine corrupt our Sacraments impure our Byshops Antichristian and our kind of Church-gouernment repugnant to that sacred forme and order which our LORD IESVS prescribed in his holie worde They say of themselues but Laus propriioris sordescit that they are inspired of the holy Spirit that they are sent from Heauen to reforme our Church and to direct it into all Truth With which faire speeches and sugred words alas for pittie they seduce the rude vulgar sorte steale away their hearts and make them disobedient to higher powers And while these good fellowes the Brownists and Martinists seeke to bee reputed the onely wisemen vpon Earth they neither knowe what they say nor yet whereof they affirme but doe open a large window to all disloyaltie and sedition euery where and giue the Papists some comforte and hope once to enioye theyr long expected daye In regarde hereof most Reuerend Father and worthie Prelate my selfe though the meanest of manie thousands in this our English Churche haue thought it operaepretium to vse my Penne in my plaine and simple manner for the vnitie and true peace of our English Sion and for the manifestation of the lawfull gouernmēt thereof I haue in this present discourse most honourable constant wise and christian Patron of the Churches libertie power freedome auncient prerogatiue which the Brownists and foolish Martinists would turne vpside downe made euident demonstration of the lawfull gouernment of our Church And that is done in such compendious manner as neither the Reading can be thought tedious nor the price of the book chargeable with such perspicuitie as the most simple euen very babes and children may with al facility understād the same with such sufficiēcie as no Brownist or Martinist or other malitious aduersarie of our churches godly setled gouernment whosoeuer shall euer be able while the world indures either with Scriptures Councels Fathers or Ecclesiastical Histories to gain say or with stand the same I haue succinctly and euidently set down before the eyes of the indifferent Reader that the monarchical gouernāce of our English church is both the best and the most laudable of all others That there is euer hath beene in all former ages of the church superioritie of one church-minister aboue and ouer another and that one may this day lawfully haue iurisdiction ouer another That Bishops Arch-bishops Primates Metropolitains Patriarches haue euer beene in
conscientia scripsi sicut credias sic etiam isberè loquutus sum vt faciendū esse docent sacrae litera Fides autē mea nititur cùm primis simpl●citèr verbo Dei Deinde nonnihil etiam communi totius veteris catholica Ecclesia consensu si ille cum sacris literis non pugnet Credo n. qua a pijs patribus in nomine Domini congregatis communi omnium consensu citra vllā sacrarū litorarum contradictionē definita receptafuerunt ea etiam quanquā haud eiusdem cum sacris literis authoritatis a spiritu sancto esse Hinc fit vt quae sunt huinscemodi ea ego improbare noc velim nec audeā bona conscientia quid autem certius ex Historijs ex concilijs ex omnium patrum scriptis quàm illos ministrorū ordines de quibus diximus communi totius reipublicae christianae consensu in ecclesia constitutos receptosque fuisse Quis autem ego sum qui quod tota ecclesia approbavit improbem sed neque omnes nostri temporis docti viri improbare ausi sunt quippe qui norunt licuisse haec Ecclesiae ex pietate atque ad optimos fines pro electorum aedificatione ea omnia fuisse profecta ordinata When I worte this Confession of my Faith I wrote euery thing with a good conscience and as I beleeued so I also freely spoke as holy writ teacheth me to doe My beliefe is principally simply grounded vpon Gods word then some-what also vpon the cōmon consent of the auncient Catholique Church so it doe not swarne from the holy Scriptures For I bel●eue that such things as that holy Fathers gathered together in Gods name haue with common consent defined and receiued without any contradiction of the holy Scriptures do proceed from the holy Ghost though not of the same authoritie with the holy Scriptures Hence comes it that my selfe neither will nor with safe conscience dare reproue such kinde of decrees But what is more cleare and euident by Histories by Councels and by the writings of all the Fathers then that those orders of Ministers wherof we haue spoken haue bene appointed receiued in the Church euen with the common consent of the whole christian Common weale And who am I that I should reproue that which the whole Church hath approued yea which all the learned men of our age durst neuer reproue to this day as who knew right well that both the Church might lawfully doe these things also that they proceeded of pietie that all things were ordained to very godly purposes for edefication of Gods elect Thus writeth this learned godly zealous and iudicious Father who for his rare learning profound knowledge pure zeale great iudgemēt was inferior to none of his age in Christs Church if not superiour to all Out of whose words I obserue many more excellent worthy documēts for the help of the wel affected Reader First that this godly learned man was fully resolued to die in that Faith which he heare speaketh of Secondly that he published this his Confession of Faith with a good conscience constantly beleeuing as he wrote Thirdly that his Faith was grounded vppon the word of God Fourthly that the Decrees of the holy Fathers assembled in Christes name defined by the common consent of all and not repugnant to the Scriptures were not simply the Decrees of men but also of the holy Ghost Fiftly that the Degrees of Ministers and superioritie of Bishops Arch-bishops Primates and Patriarches were approued and receiued by vniforme and common consent throughout the whole Church of Christ. Sixtly that this great learned man neither durst nor could with good conscience reproue the same Seuenthly that the Church had authoritie to appoint constitute ordaine such degrees and superiority amongst the Ministers of the Church Eightly that such constitutiōs proceeded of pietie were ordeined for edisicatiō of the Church To the testimony of this graue writer I deeme it worth the labour to adde that which the same Doctor hath in another place These are his words Hoc ego ingenuè denuò profiteor talem esse meam conscientiam vt a veterū patrum sive dogmatibus sive scripturarum interpraetationibus non facilè nisivel manifestis sacrarum literarum testimonijs vel necessarijs consequentijs apertisque demonstrationibus convictus atque coactus discedere queam Sic enim acquiescit mea conscientia in hac mentis quiete cupio etiāmors I againe professe freely my conscience to be such that I cannot easily depart either from the Doctrines of the auncient Fathers or from their interpretations of the holy Scriptures vnlesse I bee convicted and compelled therevnto either with the manifest testimonies of holy Writ or with necessarie consequences and manifest demonstrations For so my conscience is at rest and in this quiet of minde I desire to die Out of which wordes I note two things both memorable and of great importance wishing the gentle Reader to marke them attentiuely First that the auncient Fathers haue decreed according to the holy Scriptures superioritie among Ministers in the Church and the degrees of Bishops Arch-bishops Primates Metropolitans Suffragans and Patriarches Secondly that this learned Doctor thinketh himselfe bound in conscience to acknowledge receiue and obey such decrees and constitutions of the holy Fathers and therefore earnestly desireth to ende his life in that beliefe Nicolaus Hemingius affirmeth constantly that the pure church which followed the Apostles-time ordeyned diuers degrees of Ministers for the peaceable Regiment of the Church as Metropolitans Arch-bishops Patriarches The 1. Obiection Ye know that the Lords of the Gentiles haue domination ouer them and they that are great exercise authoritie ouer them But it shall not be so among you but whosoeuer will be great among you let him be your seruant The Answere I answere that these wordes of our Sauiour Christ doe only condemne ambitious desire of rule and the tyrannicall v●●ge thereof but not simply all superioritie and lawfull authoritie of one aboue an other I proue it first because Christ saith not the Lords of the Iewes but the Lords of the Gentiles beare rule ouer them As if hee had said you may not haue that tyrannicall kind of gouernment which the gentiles vsed nor such ambitious desire and sinister affection of rule as was found among them And therefore is it significantly said it shall not be so He saith not it shal not be at all but it shall not be so as it was among the Gentiles Secondly bcause it is the frequent custome of the holy Scriptures to forbid things simply without exception when it doth in deedes and true meaning prohibite onely the abuse and the inordinate desire and vsage of the same Call no man your father vppon earth saith Christ for there is but one your Father which is in heauen B●● not called Doctors for one is your Doctor euen Christ But
onely ambition and greedie desire of bearing rule ouer others Which his opinion hee prooveth to bee grounded vpon Christs owne wordes And doubtlesse it is to bee admired that any Learned man will holde the contrarie opinion See Peter Martyrs opinion and note it well His expresse wordes shall bee set downe when I come to speake of the church-discipline The Reply Maister Caluin and many other learned writers alleage this Text against that superioritie which the late Bishops of Rome doe challenge ouer other Ministers of the Church which doubtlesse they could never truely doe if one Bishop or Minister may be superiour to another The Answere I answere that M. Caluin and other learned men doe truely alledge this Scripture against the falsly challenged Primacie of the proude arrogant Bishop of Rome And yet for all that it doth not prohibite the moderate and lawfull superioritie of one Minister ouer another which is both necessarie for the peaceable managing of the Church and hath euer beene vsed in the Church as it is already prooved For the Bishop of Romes superioritie is so farre from heing moderate and lawfull that it may truely be termed tyrannicall and plaine diabolical Because as I haue proved at large in other discourses hee taketh vpon him to depose kings to translate kingdomes and in most brutish and savage manner to tyrannize ouer mens soules and consciences Idque iure divino as hee beareth the world in hand The 2. Obiection The names of Arch-bishops Primates and Patriarches are proud names disholy prophane and not to bee found in the holy Scriptures The Answere I answere First that though the names be not expressed in holy writ yet is the thing it selfe sufficiently conteined in the same as is already proved Secondly that the very names are so farre from being prophane and disholy that the most zealovs Patrons of the Presbitery doe allowe and approue the same for lawfull and holy and to haue beene ordained of the holy Fathers for a godly end and purpose Maister Caluins opinion is alreadie set downe in this present chapter Yet for better satisfaction of the Reader let him heare what the same authour saith in an other place These are his wordes Quod duodecim vnum habuerint inter se qui omnes regeret nihil mirum Hoc n. fert natura hoc hominum ingenium postulat vt in quovis caetu etiamsi aequales sint omnes potestate vnus tamen sit veluti moderator in quem alij respiciant Nulla est curia sine consule nullus consessus indicum sine Praetore sen quaesitore collegium nullum sine Praefecto nulla sine magistro societas That the twelue Apostles had one among them to gouerne the rest it was no maruell For nature requireth it and the dispositiō of men will so haue it that in euery company though they be all equall in power there be one as gouernour by whom the rest may be directed There is no Court without a Consull no Senate without a Pretor no Colledge without a Presidēt no societie without a maister Now it is euident that neither Bishops nor Arch-bishops in our church of England haue greater authoritie then maister Caluin speaketh of in this place For to say nothing of the dignitie of Consuls and Pretors which was very great among the Romans the maister of a Colledge as euery Scholler of Cambridge and Oxford can tell hath a perpetuall office hee is chiefe gouernour of that societie and all the members thereof owe obedience vnto him as to their head he hath authoritie to punish and to see lawes executed within his Colledge as Bishops and Arch-bishops haue in their dioceses prouinces And most certaine it is that no Arch-bishop in England hath that authoritie in his prouince which the Consul had in Rome Maister Beza confesseth that antiquitie vsed the names of Bishops and Arch-bishops and willingly admitteth of them as holy names These are his expresse wordes Nam quod pastores temporis progressu distincti sunt in metropolitas episcopos quos nunc vocant curatos id est singulis paraecijs prafectos id minime factum est respectu ministerij verbi sed potum habita ecclesiasticae iurisdictionis ac disciplinae ratione Itaque quod attinet ad verbi praedicandi munus sacramentorum administrationē nullum est inter archiepiscopos episcopos curatos discrimen Omnes n. tenentur suos greges eodē●ibo pascere ide●que communi nomine postores episcopi in scripturis passim vocantur Quae verò istorum impudentia est sacra nomina vsurpare propter ea apostolorum verorum opiscoporum successionem iactare For that in processe of time pastors were distinguished into Metropolitans or Arch-bishops Bishops and Curates it was not done in respect of the Ministerie of the word but in regard of ecclesiasticall iurisdictition and discipline Therefore touching the office of Preaching and Ministration of the sacraments there is no difference betwixt Arch-bishops Bishops and Curates For they all are bound to feede their flockes with the same meate and therfore are they called in the Scriptures by the common name of Pastors and Bishops But how impudent are these men which vnder colour of these holy names glory in the succession of the Apostles and true Bishops thus writeth master Beza iumping as euery childe may see with that doctrine which I now defend Yea the same Beza affirmeth these degrees and names to haue beene appointed by the auncient Church vpon a very good zeale These are his wordes in an other place Neque verò nos ignoramus quammulia sint a veteribu● constituta de episcoporum metropolitarū Patriarcharum sedibus idque optimo zelo definitis cuinsique limitibus certaque attributa authoritate Neither are wee ignorant how many cōstitutions the old fathers haue made concerning the seates of Bishops Metropolitans and Patris arches and that vpon a very godly zeale assigning to euery one his boundes and authoritie Thus the Reader seeeth how Caluin Beza Bucer Zanchius and Hemingius doe hold the same opinion which I now defend The Reply The Bishops Arch-bishops Patriarches and such like of which Beza Caluin the Councell of Nice and other councels make mention were not such as our Bishops in England Prelates of the Garter high Commissioners Iustices of Peace and Quorum The Answere I answere First that the same superioritie of one minister ouer an other was then in the olde Arch-bishops Patriarches and such like which is this day in ours here in this land yea greater by one degree at the least because England neuer had a Patriarch in it Secondly that Arch-bishops Primates and Metropolitans which are all one in effect had then the same iurisdiction in other countries which our bishops haue this day in England That is to say a superiour charge and sollicitude of all Churches within their prouinces Which thing though it be alreadie prooued sufficiently to all well affected Readers may
to the Arch-bishop of Canterburie ouer the other Bishops and Ministers in England Now for aunswere to the other part of the obiection touching high Commissioners Iustices of Peace and Quorum I haue referued the next Chapter CHAP. VI. Of civill offices in Ecclesiasticall persons THe authoritie in ciuill matters committed to the ministers of the Church is not made a thing intrinsically incidēt to the ministerie or as a part thereof but it is cōmitted to them by the Prince whom his subiects are not to limit what persons he shall vse in counsell or to whom hee shall commit the execution of his lawes and it is added to their ministerie as profitable and necessarie for the present state and good of the Church Which good to bee procured by that meanes rather then by any other imployment besides it may appeare both by experience and practise By experience for that wee see those Kingdomes Princes and people most blessed of God where learned and godly Bishops haue beene receiued into the Princes Counsell By practise because I haue both heard and read that maister Caluin and maister Beza were admitted to be Counsellours of the seate at Geneua being thought sit men for that place Who doubtlesse would neuer haue yeelded thereunto if they had thought it a thing either vnlawfull in it selfe or incompatible to their function No no it is neither vngodly nor yet vnseemely for a Minister to come from the Pulpit to the correction of vice sinne and wickednesse But contrariwise it is so godly so comely and so necessarie that it euer hath beene vsuall both in the Lawe of nature in the Lawe of Moses and in the Lawe of grace for First in the lawe of nature Melchisedech was both King and Priest So reporteth holy Moses in his booke of Genèsis and Saint Paul to the Hebrewes And Saint Hierome telleth vs that all the eldest sonnes of the holy Patriarches were both Kings and Priests Aiunt hunc esse Sem filium Noe supputantes annos vitae ipsius ostendunt eum ad Isaac vsque vixisse omnesque primogenitos Noe donec sacerdotio fungeretur Aaron fuisse pontifices The Hebrewes saith Saint Hierome affirme this Melchisadech to bee Sem the sonne of Noah and reckoning the yeeres of his life they shewe vs that he liued vntill Isaac and that all the first begotten of Noah vntill Aarons Priest-hood began were Bishops Yea whosoeuer will denie that Noah Abraham Isaac Iacob and others did rule ouer those who were committed to their charge as wel in ecclesiasticall as ciuill causes they may truly be said to knowe nothing in the scriptures Secondly in the Lawe of Moses Moses himselfe was both the ciuill Magistrate and a Priest For Moses iudged the people from morning vnto euen Hee put the Malefactors to death who had committed Idolatry Hee consecrated Aaron and his sonnes and burnt sweet incense on the golden Altar Heli was both the high Priest and iudge of the people for the space of 40 yeares together Samuel likewise was both a Priest and iudge ouer the people for the space of 30. yeares together The good king Iosaphat made the Priests iudges both in ecclesiastical and ciuil causes And after the captiuitie of the Iewes the Machabees were rulers aswel in ciuil as in ecclesiastical causes Read the books of the Machabees Iosephus Egesippus and this truth will soone appeare But what neede many words in a case so cleere and euident God himselfe made a general law that the priests the ciuil magistrate shuld iontly determine iudge and decide all controuersies These are the expresse wordes of the Law if there rise a matter too hard for thee in iudgement betweene boold and blood betweene plea and plea betweene plague and plague in the matters of controuersie within thy gates then shalt thou arise and goe vnto the place which the Lord thy God shall chuse And thou shalt come to the Priestes of the Levites to the iudge that shall be in those dayes and aske and they shall shewe thee the sentence of iudgement These wordes are so plaine as all interpretation may be thought needlesse Thirdly in the Gospell and newe Testament wee haue a pluralitie of examples in this behalfe S. Paul when he made his abode at Corinthus with Aquila and Prescilla whom Claudius the Emperour had driuen from Rome he wrought with his hands being of the same craft with them and made tents as they did S. Augustine thought it a thing so lawfull for a Bishop to be iudge in causes Ecclesiasticall that I wonder how any man hearing or reading his owne words can any longer stand in doubt thereof Thus doth he write Quis plantat vineam de fructu eius non edit Quis pascit gregem de lacte gregis non percipit Tamen Dominum Iesum in cuius nomine securus haec dico testem invoco super animam meam quoniam quantum attinet ad meum cōmodum multo mallem per singulos dies certis horis quantum in bene moderatis monasterijs constitutum est aliquid manibus operari caeteras horas babere ad legendū orandum aut aliquid de divinis litteris agendum liberas quam tumultuosissimas perplexitates causar ūalienarum patide negotijs secularibus vel iudicando dirimendis vel interveniendo praecidendis quibus nos molestijs idem affixit Apostolus non vtique suo sed eius qui in eo loqu●batur arbitrio quam tamen ipsum perpessum fuisse non legimus Aliter n. se habebat apostolatus eius discursus Sequitur quem tamen laborem non sine consolatione domini suscipimus prospe vitae aeternae vt fructum seramus cum tolerantia Servi n sumus cius Ecclesiae maxime infirmioribus membris quanta libet in eodem corpore membra sumus Omitto alias innumerabiles ecclesiasticas curas quat for tasse nemo credit nisi qui expertus est Non ergo alligamui onera gravia humeris vestris imponimus quae nos digito non attingimus quandoquidem si officil nostri sarva ratione possemus videt ille qui probat corda nostra mallemus haee agere quae vt agatis hortamur quàm ea quae non agere cogimur Who planteth a vineyard and eateth not of the fruite thereof who seedeth a flocke and receiueth not of the milke of the flocke Yet I call the Lord Iesus to witnesse vpon my soule in whose name I boldly vtter these words that touching mine owne commoditie I had much rather euery day to worke some thing with mine hands as it is appointed in well gouerned Monasteries and to haue the houres free to read and to pray and to doe some exercise in the holy Scriptures then to suffer the tumultuous perplexities of other mens causes touching secular affaires either in determining thē by iudging or in cutting thē off by intreating to which molestations the Apostle hath tyed vs not by
festiuitie for the dedication of the Temple which continued for the space of seuen whole daies Secondly Queene Hester and Mordicai appointed the Iewes to keepe a solemne feast for the remembrance of their happy deliuerāce from Hamans crueltie Thirdly the Machabees Iudas and his brethren ordained that the dedication of the Altar should be kept from yeare to yeare by the space of eight daies with mirth and gladnesse Fourthly in the daies of Nehemiah the Captaine and of Ezra the Priest the Iewes were appointed to keepe the dedication of the wall at Hierusalem with thankes-giuing and with songes Cymbals Violes and Harpes Concerning which dedication instituted by Iudas Machabaeus Christ himself honoured it with his presence and maister Caluin affordeth it this explication Ac si diceres innovationes quia templum quod pollutum fuerat de integro consecratum fuit auspicijs Iudae Machabaei ac tunc institutum fuit vt quotannis festus ac celebris esset dedicationis novae dies vt dei gratiam quae finem Antiochi tyrannidi imposuerat memoria repeterent Tunc autem in templo Christus promo●e apparuit vt in frequenti hominum conventu vberior esset praedicationis suae fructus As if thou shouldest say innouatiōs because the Temple which had bene polluted was cōsecrated a fresh by Iudas Machabaeus his authoritie then was it ordained that there should be yearely a feast and a solemne day of the new dedicatiō that they might remember Gods grace and mercy which had made an end of Antiochus his tyranny At which time Christ was present after his maner in the Temple that in so great a concurse of people his Preaching might haue the better effect Yea maister Caluin granteth that the Iewes instituted their Sanhe●rim after their returne from Captiuitie This libertie the Church hath this day as may appeare by the freedome in altering the Saboth-day For as I haue proued at large by the testimonie not onely of the ancient Fathers but also of the best approued late writers Philippus Melanction Erasmus Roterodamus Iohannes Caluinus Petrus Martyr Pellicanus Bullingerus and Vrsinus in my booke of Suruey though it be constant perpetuall to haue one day in the weeke assigned for diuine seruice that being the morall part of the Sabaoth and vnalterable yet whether this or that day ought to bee appointed for that purpose it is a thing that respects the time and may bee changed by the church If any shal hold the contrary doctrine he must perforce fall into flat iudaisme tye himselfe to the obseruāce of dayes moneths yeares against the Apostolike doctrine For to be tied of necessitie to the time is a flat Iewish superstition intrinsecally ceremonial as all the aforenamed learned men doe will testifie with me yet I neither wish nor deeme it a thing conuenient to change the Lords day or Saboath The third aphorisme of the rules which the Church must obserue in all her constitutions ordinances and decrees THe first rule which the Church must obserue in her lawes decrees constitutions is this viz. That shee prohibite nothing which God commandeth neither cōmand any thing which God prohibiteth Ye shal put nothing to the word which I cōmand you neither shal ye take ought there-from Take heed therfore that yee doe as the Lord your God hath commanded you turne not aside to the right hand nor to the left Let not this booke of the law depart out of thy mouth but meditate therein day and night that thou maiest obserue and doe according to all that is written therein The second rule is this that the decrees and constitutions of the Church bee not made a part of Gods worship nor holden as necessary vnto saluation For as our Sauiour saith they worship him in vaine who teach for Doctrines the precepts of men And therfore doth the Apostle condemne Ethelothrescêian all voluntarie worship deuised by man The third rule is this that the decrees and constitutions of the Church be onely made of things indifferent and for one of these three endes viz. either for edification or for decencie and comelinesse or for order sake and peaceable gouernment of the Church Of these endes speaketh the Apostle where he willeth all things to be done vnto edifying and to be done decently and orderly These three Aphorismes seriously obserued duly pondered all Ceremonies Ordinances Decrees and Constitutions of our English Church will find ready and sufficient approbation The Demonstration The corollarie and illation deduced out of the precedent Aphorismes may be made cleare and euident by three inuincible and irrefragable reasons Wherof the first is taken from the authoritie of the holy Scriptures the second from the practise of the Catholique Church The third from the vniforme consent of best approued late Writers The 1. reason drawne from the holy Scriptures HOly Writt teacheth vs that the Church De facto hath altered many things which Christ himselfe did both institute and put in practise That the Church ordained and Decreed many things whereof the Scripture maketh no mention And that the Church may make decrees Lawes ordinances and constitutions in all things Adiaphorois which are of their own nature indifferent so the same tend to edification comelinesse or peaceable gouernment of the Church This reason is proued throughout all the precedent Aphorismes And it will be more plaine when I come to speake of the election of ministers The 2. reason drawne from the practise of the auncient Church IF the gentle Reader shall call to minde what I haue in this discourse alreadie set downe out of the Decrees of the auncient and holy Councels out of the holy Fathers and best approoued late Writers hee cannot rest doubtfull or stagger any longer in this behalfe Saint Austen writeth so grauely and so copiously of this matter in many of his bookes extant in the world as hee is well able to satisfie euery one that will be perswaded with reason In his Epistle to Ianuarius to omit all other his manifold testimonies he telleth vs that that Catholique Church by her freedome and authoritie hath instituted certaine solemne feastes of the passion resurrectiō ascension of Christ and descending of the holy Ghost to be yearely obserued throughout the Christian world He addeth these most golden wordes Nec disciplina vlla est in his melior graui prudentique christiano quàm vt eo modo agat quo agere viderit ecclosiā ad quamcunque fortè devenerit Quod. n. neque contra fidem neque contra bonos more 's iniungitur indifferentèr est habendū et pro eorum inter quos vivitur societate servandum est Neither can there be any better discipline in these matters for a graue and discrete christan then to doe so as hee shall see that Church doe to which hee hath occasion to come For that which is neither against faith
traditions concerning the discipline order and government of the Church Sixtly that it is free and lawfull for euery Church to appoint ordaine and constitute that kind of pollicie discipline government which is most sit profitable for the same And the reason hereof is yeelded to be this because our Lord Iesus hath prescribed no setled law therein but hath left all indifferent things to the libertie of his Church Seuenthly that there can no greater plague come to the Church then to tye all Churches to one kinde of externall government Zanchius teacheth the selfe same doctrine euen in the same words Petrus Martyr after he hath distributed traditions into three orders shewing one kinde to bee expressed in the Scriptures an other plaine repugnant to the same the third neither contrary to the word of GOD neither necessarily affixed vnto it addeth these expresse words Sunt nonnullae traditiones quas neutras appellare libuit quod verbo deinec adversentur nec illinecessariò cohaereant inquibus mos ecclesiae gerendus est tribus interposit is cautionibus Primùm videndum est ne obtrudantur quasidei cultus deculiar is quaedam sanctimonia quandcquidem potius recipiendae sunt adordinum conservandum civilem ecclesiae commoditatem atque sacrarum actionum decorum alioquin in sacris literis luculentèr habemus descripta quaead sanctitatem cullum dei cōducunt Praeterea cavere oportet ne quaesic tradūtur it a putemus necessaria vt pro tempore amoveri non possint Servetur ecclesiae suum ius de his medijs vt quoadilla statuat quicquid viderit magis adificationem credentium promovere Consideretur demùm saepiùs nimijs traditionibus ceremonijs in immensum auct is populum Christi sic gravari vt tantum non obruatur There bee some traditions which may bee termed uentrall or indifferent for that they neither are against Gods word neither doe they necessarily cohere with it In which ceremonies the Churches constitution must bee obeyed if three cautions doe concurre First that they bee not obtruded as Gods worship or peculiar holinesse but as pertaining to order and the ciuill commoditie of the Church and to comlinesse in divine actions otherwise all things are sufficiently comprised in the holy Scriptures which pertaine to holinesse and gods worship Secondly we must beware that they be not reputed so necessarie that they cannot be chaunged as the time requireth Let the Church keepe her interest and libertie in these indifferent things to appoint what shall be thought most necessarie to the edifying of the faithfull Lastly let it bee well remembred that the multitude of Ceremonies doth often so annoy the people that they are almost vndone therewith M. Beza hath these words Quoniam multitudo plerumque impirita est intractabilis maior pars saepè meliorem vincit ne in democratia quidem leguimè constituta omnia permissa sunt ●ffraeni vulgo sed constituti sunt ex populi consensu certi magistratus qui plebi prae●ant inconditam multitudinem regant Quod sihaec prudentia in negotij● humanis requiritur multò sanè magis opus est certa moderatione in ijs rebus in quibus homines prorsus caecutiunt neque causa est cur quisquam sani iudi●ij homo clamitet nullum hic esse prudentiae locum nisi hanc prudentiam de qua loquor ostendat cum deiverbo pugnare quod sanè non arbitror Neque n. simplicitèr spectandum quid sit ab Apostolis factum in politia ecclesiastica quum diversissimae sint circumstantiae ac proinde absque Cacozelia non possint omnia omnibus locis ac temporibus ad vnam candēque formam revocari sed potius spectandus est eorum finis scopus invariabilis ea deligenda forma ac ratio rerum agendarum quae rectè eò àeducat Because the multitude is for the most part ignorant and intractable and the greater part doth often times prevaile against the better all things are not euen in a popular state lawfully appointed committed to the vnbridled multitude but certain Magistrates are appointed by the peoples consent to guide rule and gouerne them If this wisedome be required in wordly affaires much more is a moderation to be had in those matters in which men are altogether blinded Neither is there any cause why any man of sound iudgement shall exclaime that in such matters there is no place for pollicie except hee can shewe this pollicie whereof I speake to be repugnant to the word of GOD which I am perswaded he can never doe For we must not simply looke what the Apostles did in ecclesiasticall pollicie and Church-gouernment seeing there is so great varietie of circumstances that a man cannot without preposterous zeale reduce all things in all places and times to one and the same forme in doing things which leadeth the right way to the same Thus writeth Maister Beza who hath many like periods to the like effect which I omit in regard of brevitie Out of these words I note first that the Church is not so strictly bound to the practise of the Apostles that she must alwayes follow the same in these Adiaphorôis Secondly that the Church in things indifferent hath power to make any Lawes which are not repugnant to the word of God Which point I would haue the Reader to ponder seriously because it is very emphaticall and of great moment Thirdly that all Churches cannot haue one and and the same kind of government because the circumstances of times places and persons will not suffer it Fourthly that the Church in all the lawes and constitutions must chiefly respect the peaceable government of the people Hieronymus Zanchius is consonant to the other Doctors while he writeth in this manner De ritibus ceremonijs in ecclesia servandis eadem pietas eccle siarum aedificatio flagitat ne nimis acritér quasi pro aris focis vt dici solet sit aimicati● disceptetur sed singulis ecclesijs l●beri relinquantur quemadmodum ettam in veteri ecclesia factum fuisse apud Socratem alios ecclesiasticos scriptore● legimus Quibus ae rebus in genere probamus atque amplectimur vtramque epistolam Augustini ad Ianuarium Haec n. faciunt ad ecclesiae aedificationem Touching Rites and Ceremonies to bee obserued in the Church the same pietie and edifying of the Church requireth that wee contend not too biterly as if it were for matters of great moment but that euery Church haue her libertie therein as we reade in Socrates and other ecclesiasticall writers that it was the olde custome of the Church Of which things in generall we allow and embrace both the Epistles which Austin wrote to Ianuarius For these things tend to the edification of the Church The same Zanchius in an other place hath these words Interea tamen non improbamus patres quodiuxta variam tum verbi dispensandi tum
regendae ecclesiae rationem varios quoque ordines ministrorū multiplicaverint quando id eis liberum fuit sicut nobi● quando constat id ab illis fuisse factum honestis de causis ad ordinem ad decorū ad aedificationem ecclesiae pro eo tempore pertinentibus In the meane while wee blame not the Fathers that for the diuers manner of dispensing the word and gouerning the Church they haue also multiplyed diuers orders of Ministers because they had libertie so to doe as our selues also haue and because it is euident that they did that vpon honest causes which pertained at that time to order comelinesse and edification of the Church Thus writeth the most learned Doctor Maister Zanchius who if I bee iudge was a man of as rare learning and profound iudgement as euer was any in the Church Out of whose words I of serue First that wee should not moue contention in the Church for any rites and Ceremonies in the same Secondly that euery Church hath her libertie therein to appoint what is best for her owne government Thirdly that the Church of olde time did vse so to doe Fourthly that Zanchius approueth S. Austins rule herein as M. Calvin did before him Fiftly that it was lawfull for the auncient Church to appoint sundry orders of ministers and the church this day hath the same authoritie Sixtly that the causes and respects for which the church may ordaine and make lawes in things indifferent are either edification order or decencie as I haue proved already at large The Corollarie of the Chapter FIrst the church may chaunge Christs owne practise and that in Rites and ceremonies pertaining to the holy Sacraments Secondly the church may appoint solemne feastes to be obserued as Salomon did institute the dedication of the Temple for seuen dayes Hester Mordecai the festivitie of their deliuerance Ezra and Nehemias the dedication of the wall at Ierusalem Iudas and his brethren the dedication of the Altar for eight dayes Thirdly the Iewes instituted their Sanhedrim after their returne from their captivitie in Babylon Fourthly the church by S. Austins iudgement may make any Lawes which are neither against faith nor good manners Fiftly the church saith Maister Calvin hath authoritie left her in things indifferent either to make newe lawes or to cassiere and chaunge the old so often as the necessitie of the church doth so require Sixtly the church receiued many vnwritten traditions concerning order and government of the Church Seuenthly the church saith Zanchius hath authoritie to constitute moe orders of Ministers when it is for the good of the Church Eightly the church may make any lawes which are not repugnant to Gods word So saith M. Beza telling vs plainly that we must not so much respect what the Apostles did as what the peace and good of the church requireth Much other like matter the same Beza together with Calvin Martyr and Zanchius haue deliuerd vnto vs as may appeare by this present Chapter I therefore conclude that the authoritie which this our our English church doth this day challenge vnto her in her ri●es ceremonies ordinances lawes and constitutions is grounded vppon the holy Scriptures the practise of the Catholique Church and the best approued late writers Al obiections that possibly can be made against the lawes and constitutions of our English Church may bee answered with all facilitie by that which is plainly deliuered in this present Chapter whosoeuer shall marke it well will I thinke bee of mine opinion see the ninth Chapter and marke it CHAP. VIII Of things indifferent in particular The first Aphorisme of Chruch-holy dayes THe vulgar people for a great part what through vndiscreet zeale in some and tootoo rash preaching Ne quid gramu● d●●a in othersome are so perswaded or rather bewitched blinded that they thinke they serue God better alas for pittie if they be quaffing in the Ale-house or sleeping in their chambers or gazing in the streets then doe their honest neighbours in going to the church on holy dayes there to ioyne with the faithfull in hearing diuine seruice and godly prayers They are not abashed to say for their vnchristian excuse that no power vpon earth can appoint an holy-day and that it is great superstition to obserue the same But certes none that are well studied or read either in the holy ecclesiasticall histories or in generall Councels or in the auncient Fathers or in the best approued late writers can ever without great blushing avouch or defend that vntimely hatched doctrine and vnsoundly conceived opinion Queene Hester and godly Mordecai appointed an holy day for the remembrance of Gods great benefit toward them in deliuering them from Hamans crueltie King Solomon ordained a solemne festivitie for the space of seuen dayes in the dedication of the Temple The Machabees instituted an holy feast to bee kept from yeere to yeere for the space of eight dayes for the dededication of the Altar Which feast Christ vouchsafed to honour with his corporall presence at Hierusalem The Iewes instituted their new Sanhedrim Synedrion or Presbiterie after their returne from their captimitie in Babylon as maister Calvin recordeth in his Harmonie vpon Saint Matthew The reformed churches in Helvetia doe right well allow the feastes or holy dayes of the Nativitie resurrection and such like If I should endevour my selfe to recount all that which may easily be collected out of the auncient councels the holy-fathers for the approbatiō allowāce of holy-daies after the custome at this day of auncient time vsed in this church of England time would sooner faile me then matter whereof to speake I will in regard to brevitie content my selfe onely with one or two testimonies of councels as also of the graue holy auncient most learned father S. Austin then proceed to the testimonie of late writers because in this dispute they whō it chiefly concerneth either haue not seene or read the councels and the fathers or else more rashly then wisely contemne their degrees iudgements and without all rime reason preferre their owne opinions before them The councel holden at Granado or Elebertine aboue 1200. yeares ago such is the antiquitie of holy-dayes in the Christian Church reputed the practise of the Church in former ages to be of such force in that behalfe that they deemed them Heritiques that would not obediently yeeld vnto the same These are the expresse words of the Elebertine Councel Pravam institutionē emendari placuit iuxta authoritatem scripturarum vt cuncti diem Pentecostes celebremus Quod qui non fecerit quasi novam haresim induxisse notetur We haue decreed that the depraved institution bee amended according to the Scriptures that wee may all keepe the day of Penticost and the feast of Whitsonday Which who soever shall refuse to doe let him bee noted as one that hath brought a new heresie into the Church
Thus writeth this holy Councel which for antiquitie sake ought to bee reuerenced seeing Poperie long after that time had no footing in the Church And yet as we see by their Decrees he was in those dayes to be holden for an heritique that would appose himselfe against the Holy-dayes then obserued by the Lawes and ordinances of the Church For no Scripture prescribeth vnto Christians the observation of Pentecost which wee call Whitsontide For though the holy and auncient Councell speake of amending according to the Scriptures yet is it not that Councels meaning that the Scripture appointeth that festivitie to be observed in the Christian Church but that it is therefore according to the Scripture because the Scripture in generall termes hath giuē authoritie to the Church to make Lawes in all such indifferent things Let this point neuer be forgotten The Councell of Arles of Antioch and many others haue made the like decrees Saint Austin whom for vertue antiquitie and learning the whole world hath reverenced hath written so plainly and so effectually for the Churches authoritie in making Lawes for Holy-dayes that his Epistles to Ianuarius may suffice all such as can reade them and will bee satisfied with reason His wordes are alreadie alledged in the seuenth Chapter and third Aphorisme To which I am content for the better satisfaction of the Reader to adde the same holy Fathers wordes else-where Writing purposely of keeping holy daies against Adimantus a Manichee he hath these expresse wordes Nam nos quoque dominicum diem pascha solennitèr celebramus quastibet alias christianas dierum festivitates Sea quia intelligimus quò pertineant non tempora observamus sed quae illis significantur temporibus Haec anglicè redduntur postea The same holy father in another place hath these words Meminit sanctitas vestra evangelium secundum Iohannem ex ordine lectionum nos so●ere tractare Sed quia nunc interposita est solennit as sanctorum dierum quibus certas ex evangelio lectiones oportet in ecclesia recitars quae ita sunt annuae vt aliae esse non possint ordo ille quem susceperamus necessitate paululum intermissus est non omissus Your holinesse remembreth that wee were wont to intreate vpon the Gospell of S. Iohn according to the order of the lessons But because at this time there is interposed the solemnitie of Saint-daies vpon which daies certaine lessons taken out of the Gospel must be read which are so yearely done that they cannot be changed that order which we had taken in hand is through necessitie somewhat intermitted but not omitted For we also do solemnely celebrate both the Lords day and Easter and all other festival daies of Christians But because we vnderstand to what end they are referred wee doe not obserue times but the things signified by the times Out of these wordes I obserue first that in S. Austens time the Church obserued kept many festivall or Saints daies Secondly that the Church did allot speciall portions and parts of the holy Scripture to bee read vppon those Saints daies Thirdly that the Church obserued those daies for signification which is a point of great moment and therefore ought to be well remembred Matthias Flacius Illyricus after he hath distributed the obseruation of times into foure orders naturall ciuill ecclesiasticall and superstitious he addeth these wordes Ecclesiastica quae etiam decoro bono ordini servit quò facit quoque dies dominica tempora precipuarum historiarū aut factorum Christi quae prosunt ad aedificationem rudium vt rectiùs meminerint quando sit dominus natus passus quando in coelum ascenderit ae de singulis illis historijs suo tempore tāto commodius instituantur quod valdè rudium memoriae prodest The ecclesiasticall is that which serued for comelinesle and good order as is also the Lords day and other feasts wherein we celebrate the memorie of the chiefe histories or Acts of Christ which be profitable for the instruction of the simple that they may the better remember when the Lord was borne when hee suffered and when hee ascended vp into heauen and bee more fitly taught in due time concerning euery seuerall historie pertaining therevnto In which place the same learned Writer affirmeth that obscruation onely to bee superstitious when wee put a necessitie worship merite or righteousnesse in the obseruing of time Out of these wordes I obserue first that the keeping of Saints-daies in the Church serueth for order and comelinesse in the gouernment of the Church Secondly that the obseruation of Saint-daies is very profitable for the instruction of the simple people Which doctrine is agreeable to that which Saint Austen deliuered afore Illyricus was borne Thirdly that seeing we put neither necessitie nor worship nor merite nor righteousnesse in the obseruation of holy daies our keeping of them can no way be superstitious The reformed Churches in Germanie in their Articles which they exhibited to the Emperour doe allowe the festiuities of Saints and other holy daies And the famous Doctor Philippus Melanthon in his Apologie of the saide Articles hath these wordes Item vt ordo politia ecclesiae doceat impersios quid quo tempore gestum sit hinc sunt feriae natalis paschatis pentecostes similes hoc est quod Epiphanius ait politiae causa institutas esse traditiones viz. ordinis causa vt ordo ul● aamoneat homines de historia beneficijs Christi As also that order and pollicie in the Church may teach the ignorant what things were done and at what time hence come holy daies of the natiuitie Easter Pentecost and the l●ke Which is it that Epiphanius saith that traditions were ordained for pollicie sake viz. for to keepe order in the Church and that that order might admonish the people of the historie and benefits of Christ. Behold here how all Writers agree one with another affirming vniformely that holy daies are lawfully ordained and kept in the Church and that for signification sake and instruction of the people Maister Budinger a famous Preacher of the Church of Tigwie holdeth the selfe same opinion both in his Decades and in his commentarie vpon the Epistle to the Romanes Where hee alloweth the keeping of the holy daies and festiuities of the natiuitie circumcision and ascension the feasts of the Virgin Marie Iohn Baptist and many others Maister Zanchius is consonant to the former Writers deliuering his opinion in these wordes Post diem domini●um non possum non probare illorum quoque dierum sanctifi●aitonem quibus momoria recurrit celebrataque in veteri ecclesia fuit nativitatis D. N. I. C. circumcisionis passionis resurrectionis ascentionis in coelum missionis speritus sancti in apostolos Reliqui diebus provt quaeque ecclesia expedire indicaverit sic etiam sacrum caetum convocet ad verbum ad sacramenia ad preces
mulieres de quibus omnibus rebus non so●um ●u●●um habent domini mandatum sed etiam contrarium exemp●●m Dominius n suam caenam celebravit vesperi non manè in demo privata non publica d●●umbens cum suis sumpta caena paschait non siant hanc solam sui communionem e●hibens denique exclusis mulieribus quas habuit tamen inter ●s cipu●as suas sanctissimas Aut fieri non posse vt siut ecclesiae quas domin●●● v●que omni liberet suspu tone al vsu bonarum ertaturarum suarum vt puris per veram fidem in nomen eius sint omnes Dei ●onae creaturae vsu significationis purae quod qui dicat is certe nagabit eo ipso Christum dominum esse omnibus hominibus eum quem se promisit futurum omnibus liber atorem ab omni immunditia Aut posse impios abvsu suo bonas dei creaturas per seita v●●tare vt nemini pio ad ●●●m vsum queant deseruire quod aper●è adversatur testimonio spiritus sancts Rom. 14. 1. cor 8. 9. 1. tim 4. aut ceriè non li●ere Christianis res quastibet di ponere ad admonendum creatoris sui nostri etusque in not benefictorum atque nostrorum erga cum efficiorum id quod pugnat cum eo quod spiritus sanctus passim docet de agnos●ēao colendo deo in omnibus operibus suis faciendo omnia in nomine domini nostra Iesu Christi ad gloriam Patris It is avident that our Lord Iesus Christ hath prescribed to vs in his word the substance onely of the Ministerie both of the word and of the Sacraments and hath permitted his Church to order all other things concerning the decent and profitable administration of his mysteries Wherevpon we celebrate the holy supper neither at night neither in private houses neither sitting downe at the Table nor with men onely but touching the time place and habite of the bodie either for celebrating or for receiuing the Holy supper touching the admission of women vnto the Communion of the sacred Supper and the manner of singing and praising God touching apparrel also other things pertaining to externall comelinesse I doubt not but our Lord hath giuen free power to his Church to order and dispose of those things as euery Church shall iudge it to bee most profitable for her people to support and increase reuerence toward all the holy mysteries of God If therefore any Churches vppon this libertie graunted by Christ and for this ende of edifying Christes people would haue their Ministers to vse in time of the holy Misteries some speciall kinde of apparell all superstition levitie dissention or abuse being taken away doubtles I see not how any man cā iustly condemne such a church of any sin in that behalfe much lesse of communion with Antichrist What if any Church with a pure and holy consent of her children had such a custome that everie one should vse a white vesture in time of the holy Supper as the newly baptized ought in olde to doe for if any will contend that that libertie may not be granted to Christes Church hee must doubtlesse confesse one of these either that the Church hath no authoritie at all to ordeine any thing touching the Lords Supper whereof they haue not the expresse commandement of Christ and so all Churches shall be condemned of impious audacitie for all Churches obserue in the celebration of the holy Supper both the time and place and the attire of the body and doe withall admit women to the holy Communion Touching all the which they haue not only no commandement of the Lord but haue also a contrary example for our Lord celebrated his Supper at night not in the morning in a private house not in a publike place sitting at the table with his Apopostles and eating the Paschall not standing and so exibited the holy Communion Yea the women were excluded whom he reputed among his most holy seruantes Either that it can not be that there bee any Churches which our Lord doth so free from all suspition and the abusing of his good creatures that to the pure all the creatures of God be good through right faith in his name and pure in the vse of signification which whosoeuer shall say hee doubtlesse must therevpon denie that Christ our Lord is the deliuerer of all men from all vncleannesse as hee promised to be Either that the wicked can by their abuse so pollute the creatures of God which are good of their owne nature that no godly man can vse them to a godly ende which saying is euidently against the testimonie of the holy Ghost Or certes that Christians can not lawfully dispose of all creatures to put them in minde of their maker and of our selues and of his benefits toward vs and of our duties toward him which maketh against that which the holy Ghost teacheth euery where for the acknowledgement and worship of God in all his works and for the doing of all things in the name of our Lord Iesus Christ to the glory of his father Againe in an other place hee writeth thus Porrò dicere has vestes per Antichristiabv●um sic esse contaminatas vt nulli ecclesiae quantumvis aliqua Christum suum rerum ominium libertatem nosset et coleret sint permittendae religio sanè mihi est nec vllam video scripturam qua possim ist●m bonae dei creaturae condemnationem tueri Seqnitur ritum aliquem Aaronicum esse vel Antichristianū in nullis haeret dei creaturis in nulla veso te in nulla fioura in nullo colore aut vllo des opere sed in animo professione bonis dei creaturis ad impias significationes abvtentium Furthermore to say that these garments and vestures are so polluted by the abuse of Antichrist that they may bee permitted to no Church although such a Church did both worship Christ and know the libertie of all things it is to me doubtlesse a great scruple of conscience neither do I know any Scripture by which I may defend this condemnation of the good creature of God that any rite becommeth Aaronical or Antichristian it is not grounded in any of Gods creatures in any vesture or garment in any figure in any colour or in any worke of God but in the minde and profession of them who abuse the good creatures of God to wicked significations Thus writeth M. Bucer in this place as he doth elsewher to the same effect Out of whose wordes I obserue First that Christ hath onely prescribed in his word the substance of his holy worship Secondly that hee hath giuen power to his Church to dispose and order all other things which concerne the decent and profitable governement and administration of his holy Mysteries Thirdly that the Church may appoint her Ministers to weare speciall garments euen in the time of
simus in nimio rigore superstitiosi For we this day make no scrupulositie of conscience to retaine still those Churches which were polluted with Idols and to apply them to a better vse because that which is added to the Lawe by way of consequence doth not bind vs. I graunt willingly that all those things which tend to the planting of superstition ought to bee taken away so that by precise vrging of that which is of it self indifferent we be not in too much rigour superstitious Thus writeth Maister Caluin Out of these wordes of these two great learned Fathers I note these worthy lessōs First that things superstitiously abused may be applied to the honour and seruice of God Secondly that things which were superstitiously vsed may after their application to a good and godly vse be resembled to those persons who of Idolaters are become good Christians Thirdly that God himselfe hath taught this to be so at two seuerall times in two distinct subiects First when he commaunded the wood of the groues which had beene dedicated to the false Gods to bee applied to his owne vse and sacrifice Secondly when he appointed that the gold siluer and brasse which had beene prophaned in Hiericho should be brought into the treasurie of the Lord. Fourthly that our owne practise doth approue the same to be lawfutl while we retaine Temples abused by the Papists To which I adde the keeping still of Bels Pulpits Wine strong drinke and good cheare For all these haue beene and this day are abused not onely by the Papists but euen by those who liue among vs and professe themselues to be of vs. And therefore if wee will reiect the one sort for abuse wee must also reiect all the rest for the same respect Vnlesse perhaps it be a sufficient answere that our owne conceits neither grounded vpon authoritie nor reason must teach vs what to doe in all respects The Reply Wine strong Drinke Bels Pulpits and the like are things of necessarie vse so are not Tippets Caps and Surplesses Therefore the case is not like The Answere I answere first that we may liue without all those things which in the prepositiō are holden for necessarie Secondly that not onely maister Caluin and S. Austen speake indefinitely and generally of all things abused but the Brownists and Martinists doe in their refusal approue the same viz. the things obiected are not necessarie and therefore they meet in woods fields and odde corners Thirdly that if the superstitious vse of a thing doe so change the nature of the same thing that it can neuer be wel vsed againe then doubtlesse must we perforce reiect all things which haue once bin prophaned and superstitiously vsed Neither will it or can it serue our turne to say this is necessarie so is not that For as the Apostle saith Non sunt facienda mala vt iude eveniat bonum Wee must not doe euill that good may come thereupon But if the thing before indifferent in it owne nature doe stil remaine indifferent notwithstanding the abuse as I haue alreadie proued it then may the lawful magistrate and much more the Church with his authoritie and assent concurring retaine stil some thing reiect other some as it shall seeme most expedient for the quiet and peaceable gouernment of the Church For the Church hath free libertie and power to dispose of all things which are Adiaphora indifferent of their own nature The 2. Reply It is against my conscience to weare a Surplesse to make the signe of the Crosse in the childs forehead and so forth Ergo I may not doe it The Answere True it is that whosoeuer doth any thing against his consciēce sinneth though the thing he doth be otherwise lawful to be done Wherfore his onely remedie is this either to reforme his erroneous conscience or else peaceably to giue place to the law not contentiously to withstand the law of his superiours to whō vnder God he oweth obedience and so to raise vp schisme contention in the Church But it is to be feared that some pretend conscience where onely pride beareth the sway Because forsooth they haue more rashly then wisely Preached against the same ceremonies informer times The 3. Reply The reformed Churches in other countries haue abolished such Popish ceremonies Why therefore should we keepe them still in our Churches The Answere I answere 1. that as some other Churches haue reiected some ceremonies which we still retaine Ô so haue we reiected some ceremonies which some other churches stil retaine Secōdly that as other churches are not to be condemned for reiecting such ceremonies seeing they be no essentiall parts of religiō so neither ought our Church to be euil censured for retaining thē being things indifferēt in their own nature Thirdly that many things are conuenient for some places persons and times which for all that are very preiudicial and nothing beseeming nor befitting other persons times and places many things good for one cōmon weale which are too too hurtfull for an other many things conuenient for the gouernment of one Church which would quite destroy the state and pollicie of an other Euery Church therefore hath her freedome power and authoritie in all things indifferent to make constitute and ordaine such lawes as shal be thought most expedient for the good thereof This assertion is proued at large in the Seuenth Chapter throughout all the Aphorismes therof To which place I referie the reader for better satisfaction in this behalfe The 2. Obiection The grauen Images of their Gods shall yee burne with fire and couet not the siluer and gold that is in them nor take it vnto the least thou be snared therewith for it is an abomination before the Lord thy God The Answere I answere first with S. Austen in these wordes Satis apparet aut ipsos privatos vsus in talibus esse prohibitos aut ne sic inde aliquid inferatur in domum vt honoretur Tunc n. est abominatio execratio non cum talibus sacrilegijs honor apertissima destructione subvertitur It appeareth sufficiently that either priuate vses be forbidden in such things or else that nothing should so be brought into thine house that it be honoured For then is it abomination and execration not when together with the Idolatrie the honour is also euidently ouer throwne Secondly that this was a politicall Lawe giuen onely to the Iewes for a time and consequently that wee Christians are not strictly bound to the same The ignorance whereof hath brought many into many grosse errors I therefore note heere by the way for the benefit of the well affected and thankfull Reader that the Lawe of Moses was threefold viz. ceremoniall iudiciall and morall whereof the morall part doth this day onely remaine in force with vs Christians as which is indeed the very Lawe of nature imprinted in euery mans heart in his natiuitie and so cannot be altered or changed
committed the managing of his house Which point is likewise proued aboundantly in the Chapters aforegoing The 4. Aphorisme of ceremonies vsed id Wed. locke or marriage IN the solemnization of Matrimonie two things are much reproued viz the Ring and the simbolicall signification To the former I answere that seeing Wed-locke is a vassible ciuill contract there is great reason that it should be assured with some ciuill permanent and externall signe Hereupon the Church which hath authoritie to ordaine ceremonies as is alreadie proued doth appoint a round Ring as a ceremonie best beseeming such a contract For the Ring being round and without end in it selfe is very fit and meete to signifie to the married couple that they ought to be ioyned in the perpetual band of loue the one to the other To the latter I answere semblahly that S. Paul may as iustly be reproued therein as the Church of England For after he hath discoursed at large of the high misterie of matrimonie assuming the husband and the wife to be one flesh hee foorthwith addeth that hee speaketh of the great misterie betweene Christ and his Church Which symbolicall signification ●s approued by Saint Austin S. Chysostome S. Ambrose S. Hierome and many others It shall suffice in this so cleere a case to alleage S. Ambrose his words for all the rest Thus doth bee write Mysterij Sacramentum grande in vnitate viri ac foeminae esse signifi●at sed aliam causam quae non discordet a memorato mysterio flagitat quam scit ad prosectum humani generis pertinere hoc est ecclesiae salvatoris vt sicut relictis parentibus home vxori suae adhaerdt it a relicto omni errore ecclesia adhaereat subijciatur capiti suo quod est Christus He signifieth that there is a great mysterie in the vnitie of the wife and her husband Neither doth hee reveale this onely but he also requireth an other cause which differeth not from the said mysterie which hee knoweth to appertaine to the profit of mankinde that is of the Church and of our Saviour That as man forsaking his parents adhaereth to his wife so the Church leauing all errour must adhaere and be subiect to her head which is Christ. M Bucer approveth and highly commendeth euery ceremonie which our church vseth cōcerning holy wedlock Hieronimus Zanchius a most zealous and learned writer singeth the same song with Saint Ambrose These are his words Talis fuit eductio Evae ex latere Adae dormientis Item coniunctio Evae cum Adamo in matrimonium Res in se fuit visibilis sub sensum cadens sed aliam occultam representabat eductionem creationem ecclesiae ex latere Christi in cruco mortui vnionem ecclesiae cum Christo. Such was the eduction of Eve out of the side of Adam when he was a sleepe So also was the coniunction of Eve with Adam in the matrimoniall contract the thing in it selfe was visible and subiect to our sence but it did represent another secret thing euen the eduction and creation of the Church out of Christes side being dead vppon the Crosse and the vnion of the Church with Christ. The fift Aphorisme of the Symbolicall signe vsed in the confirmation of Children IT is greatly disliked and highly reprooued that our Bishops doe lay their hands vpon children to certifie them by this signe of Gods fauour towards them To which I answere that the fact and vsage of our Bishops in confirming children is according to the practise of the church in al former ages and therefore ought it not either to bee so lightly reiected or so rashly condemned S. Cornelius writing to his brother Fabius sheweth evidently how one Novatus being baptitized in his bed regarded not after his recoverie the rest of the ceremonies whereof he should haue bene partaker according to the rule of the Church no not so much as to be sealed or confirmed by the Bishop for that cause did he not receive the holy ghost Now this Cornelius liued above 1100. yeeres agoe at what time the church was free from all herisies errours superstition And yet did the church even then vse to confirme children in the selfe same maner now vsed in our English Church S. Augustin deliuereth the custome of the Church in his time in such golden excellent words as I verely thinke he is able to satisfie every one that shall with a single eye and vpright iudgement all parcialitie set apart duely ponder the same These are his words Numquid modo quibus impenitur manus vt accipiant spiritum sanctum hoc expectatur vt linguis loquātur aut quando imposuimus manus istis infantibus attendit vnusquisque vestrum vtrū linguis loquerentur cùm videre● cos linguis non loqui ita perversocorde aliquis vestrū fuit vt diceret non acceperunt isti spiritum sanctum nāsi accepissen● linguis loquerentur qu●aamodum tunc factum est si ergo per haec miracula non fiat modo testimonium praesentiae spiritus sancti vnde fit vnde cognoscit quisque se accepisse spiritum sanctum interroget cor suum si deligit fratrem spiritus Deimanet in illo Is it this day expected that they speake with tongues vpon whō the Bishop hath laid his hands that they should receiue the holy Ghost or when we imposed hands vpon Infants did euery one of you marke if they spake with tongues and when he sawe they spake not with tongues was then any of you so way wardly affected as to say they haue not receiued the holy Ghost for if they had they would speake with tongues as it came then to passe If therefore we haue not the testimonie of the presence of the holy Ghost by miracles how knoweth euery one that hee hath receiued the holy Ghost Let him dispute the matter with his owne heart and if he loue his brother the spirit of God abideth in him Thus write these holy Fathers shewing plainly vnto vs the practise of the Church in their dayes and that the holy Ghost is giuen in confirmation as also that the imposition of hands is a signe thereof in Gods children though not giuen in such miraculous manner as in the Apostles-time Saint Hieromie teacheth the selfe same doctrine which Cornelius and Saint Austin haue deliuered These are his words Quod si hoc loco quaeris quare in ecclesia baptizatus nisi per manus episcopi non accipiat spiritum sanctum quem nos asserimus in vero baptismate tribui disce hanc observationem ex ea authoritate descendere quod post ascensum domini spiritus sanctus ad Apostolos descendit Et multis in locis idem factitatum reperimus ad honorem potiùs sacerdotij quàm ad legis necessitatem If thou heere demaund why hee that is baptized in the Church receiueth not the holy Ghost but by the hands of the Bishop which
wee say is giuen in true baptisme learne this observation to descend of that authoritie because after our Lords ascention the holy Ghost came downe vpon the Apostles And wee finde the same observed in many places rather for the honour of Priesthood then for necessitie of the Law M. Bucer that great learned Doctor is very consonant to the auncient fathers herein These are his expresse wordes Signum impositionis manuum etiam episcopi soli praebebant non absque ratione Sive n. sit foedus domini baptizatis confirmandum Sive reconciliandiij qui grauius peccarunt Sive ecclesijs ministri ordinandi haec omnia ministeria maximè decent eos quibus summa ecelesiarum cura demandata est The signe also of imposition of hands was giuen by the Bishops onely and that not without reason For whether the baptized were to be confirmed with the couenant of the Lord or they who had sinned grieuously were to bee reconciled or Ministers were to bee ordeyned vnto Churches all these Ministeries doe especially pertaine vnto them to whom the cheifest charge of the Church is committed Thus writeth learned Bucer shewing most evidently vnto all indifferent Readers that imposition of hands in the confirmation of children was an auncient and laudable ceremonie and that it pertained onely to the Bishops to administer the same and that vpon great reason Let these words of M. Bucer non absque ratione and not without reason be well marked and neuer forgotten M. Fulke a late famous writer who was a great fauourer of the Presbyterie and of good credite with the chiefest Patrons thereof hath these expresse wordes The auncient ceremonie of imposition of hands which is nothing else as S. Austin saith but prayer over a man to be strengthened confirmed by the holy Ghost or to receiue encrease of the gifts of the holy Ghost as S. Ambrose saith we do not in any wise mislike but vse it our selues Lo this godly zealous and learned writer granteth freely that confirmation is an auncient and godly Ceremonie which to be so he proveth out of S. Austin and S. Ambrose Yea he addeth the approbation of this Church of England reckoning himselfe for one of the number and members therof We doe not saith he in any wise mislike it bvt vse it our selues What then may we or can we say or thinke of the proude Brownists sa●cie Barrowists and arrogant Puritan● Who either through ignorance of the practise of the auncient Churches and for want of knowledge in the ecclesiasticall Histories and Councels or else which is farre worse vppon a singular Philautia and fond admiration of their owne fansies and conceits doe most arrogantly and rashly censure and condemne all others both old and moderne writers which will not embrace their phantasticall imaginations and receiue the same as the decrees of the holy Ghost Certes I wonder that they are not ashamed of themselues For it can with no reason bee denied that God by the hartie and earnest prayers of his Church doth worke those effects in those children which bee his whereof the impositions of hands is a signe The Reply The Church hath not authoritie to institute either Sacraments or sacramentall signes The Answere I answere First that our Church doth neither ordeine Sacraments nor yet any sacramentall signes but doth only explaine and declare the effect purport and true meaning of that signe which the Apostles vsed in that behalfe Secondly that the Church hath power to ordeine Ceremonies in things indifferent for edification order comelinesse and consequently to expresse and declare the same by fit significant wordes Which thing I haue proued at large in the seuenth Chapter by the vnitorme testimonie of S. Ambrose whose words are these Accepisti post haec vestimenta candida vt esset indicium quod exueris in volucrum peccatorum indueris innocentiae casta velamina Afterward thou didst receiue a white vesture to signifie that thou art deliuered from the snare of sinne and art clad with the vaile of innocencie Bucerus Zuinglius and Homingius doe all 3. approue this custome of the Church Maister Bucer hath these words Et hic admodùm commodus ritus esse videtur si modo quid ista omnia significent populo subinde explicetur This also seemeth to bee a very fit Rite so the people bee sometime taught what all these things do siginfie Here he graunteth that Ceremonies may be appointed for signification sake Let this bee remembred well and not forgotten The sixt Aphorisme of the signe of the Crosse vsed in Baptisme IT is a thing so cleare and euident by all ecclesiasticall Histories that the heathen obiected to the Christians in reproch that the God in whom they beleeued was hanged on the Crosse as none but either tootoo wilfull or tootoo ignorant will or can denie the same In regard whereof the church in all ages even in the Primitiue and Apostolique time so to nourish and keepe among them the memorie of their redemption wrought vpon the Altar of the crosse to make it known to Iew Gentile and all the world that they were not ashamed of the true humilitie of their Saviour in that most ignominious kinde of death which he voluntarie suffered for their sinnes did institute and ordaine the comely and most christian vsage of the signe of the Crosse that all christians in their first ordinarie and vsuall vnion with Christ by holy Baptisme should receiue for that ende and purpose the signe of the Crosse in their fore-heads Herevpon the holy Fathers of best approved antiquitie S. Cyprian Saint Basill S. Augustin S. Hierome S. Chrysostome and all the rest make mention of the like vsage of that most comely christian badge every where in their most learned workes Yea the most holy and best learned fathers doe proue the same vse out of holy Scriptures Saint Cyprian hath these expresse words Omnem autem super quem signum scriptum est ne tetigeritis Quod autē sit hoc signum qua in parte corporis positum manifestat alio in loco Deus dicens transi per mediam Hierusalem notabis signum super frontes virorum qui ingemunt maerent ob iniquitates quae fiunt in medio ipsorum Euery one vpon whom the signe of the Crosse is made shall be free and vntouched And what signe this is and in what part of the body it is made God sheweth in another place saying Passe through the midst of Hierusalem make a signe vpon the fore-heads of them that mourne and cry for all the abhominations that bee done in the middest thereof In which place the same holy Father and Martyr of Iesus Christ proueth that signe to pertaine to the future passion of Christ Iesus out of another place of holy writ These are his wordes Quod autem occiso agno praecedit in imagine impletur in Christo secuta postmodum veritate That which went before in figure
euen the Lambe which was slaine is fulfilled in Christ the veritie that followed after the same S. Austin in the disputation betwixt the Synagogue and the Church alledgeth against the Iewes this very Text of Ezechiel for the confirmation of making the signe of the Crosse in the fore-heads of Christians Vellem addiscere vbi signum frontis acceperis vel quis propheta signum istud quod dicis hoc est signū frontis signacuso sanctificationis inciderit I would learne saith the Synagogue where thou receiuedst the signe of the fore-hed or which of the Prophets maketh mention of that signe of which thou speakest calling it the signe of sanctification in the fore-head To this question S. Austin answereth in the person of the Church prouing it out of the 9. of Ezechil as S. Cyprian had done afore him as also out of the Reuelation in the 14. Chapter hee vseth an excellent and large discourse against the Synagogue to which for brevitie-sake I referre the Reader The same S Austin in an other place hath these expresse words Insultet ille Christo crucifixo videam ego in frontibus regum crucē Christi Sequitur vsque adeo de cruce nō erubesco vt non in occulto loco habeā crucē Christi sed in fronte portem Let the Pagan deride Christ crucified but let mee beholde his Crosse in Kings fore-heads I am so farre from being ashamed of Christes Crosse that I keepe it not in a secret place but doe beare it in my fore-head Marke well gentle Reader this godly period of this auncient blessed and learned Father S. Hierome in like manner proueth the lawfull making of the Crosse in the fore-heads of the Christians out of the same words of the Prophet Ezechiel Thus doth he write Et vt ad nostra veniamus antiquis hebraeorū literis quibus vsque hodiè vtuntur Samaritani extrema Than litera crucis habet similitudinem quae in Christianorum frontibus pingitur And to come to our owne in the olde Characters and Letters of the Hebrewes which the Samaritanes vse to this day the last Letter which is Than hath the image or similitude of the Crosse which is made in the fore-heads of Christians S. Beda likewise gathereth the same conclusion out of diuers places of the scripture These are his words Ad hoc n. gentium confractum est imperium vt signo fidei cui restiterant facies sanctorum liberè notaretur Sequitur neque n. frustra in fronte pontificis nomen domini tetragrammaton scribebatur uisi quia hoc est signum in fronte fidelium For in this signe the dominion of the Gentiles was ouerthrowne that the faces of Saints might be marked with the signe of Faith which the Gentiles had resisted Thus write the auncient and holy Fathers out of whose words I obserue First that the making of the signe of the Crosse in the fore-heads of christians is grounded vpon the holy scripture Secondly that it was the custome of the Church to vse the signe of the crosse in their dayes that is to say aboue 1315. yeares agoe To which I adde that the same vsage was the custome of the church in the time of Origen and of Tertullian that is almost 1400. yeares agoe And no maruell seeing it was an Apostolicall tradition If any hold the contrary let him name the time and the Author and if I cannot proue a further antiquitie I will be of his opinion Thirdly that those holy Fathers Saint Cyprian Saint Austen Saint Hierome Saint Beda did reioyce to beare the signe of the Crosse in their foreheads And consequently that a Christian needeth not be ashamed now adaies to beare the same badg in his forehead If I should stand to recount the testimonies of the holy Fathers for the confirmation of the lawfull vse and making of the signe of the Crosse I should both wearie my selfe and be tedious to the Reader I will therefore conclude with the iudgement of Maister Zanchius whose onely verdit me thinkes should be sufficient in this behalfe These are his expresse wordes Alia vero traditiones non sunt necessariò retinendae in ecclesijs etsi vetustae a patribus commemoratae vt quod christianum oportet signo crucis frontem munire diebus veneris sabbathi ieiunare Nam etsi servari possent si absque superstitione exercerentur tamen conscientiam non obligant Sequitur summa igitur conclusio haec sit eas traditiones quae dei verbo conformes ad vsum ecclesiae animosque hominum ad pietatem verum dei cultum excitandos accommodatae sunt etiamnum retinendas vsurpandas esse citra tamen superstitionem opinionem meriti The Church is not bound of necessitie to retaine still Other traditions although they be auncient and mentioned by the Fathers as that a Christiā must make the signe of the Crosse in his forehead and fast vpon Friday and Saterday For although these ceremonies and traditions might be still retained and kept if that were done without superstition yet for all that they doe not bind a mans conscience to keepe them Let this therefore be the summe and conclusion that such traditions as agree with the word of God and serue for the Churches vse and to stirre vp mens mindes to pietie and the true worship of God may this day b● still retained and vsed so it be done without superstition and opinion of merite This is the conclusion of the most learned Doctor Maister Zanchius and I see no reason why it should not be my conclusion also And consequently I doe constantly affirme with him that the signe of the Crosse may this day be vsed lawfully so it be not ioyned with superstition and opinion of merite Let this be well obserued that Zanchius graunteth freely that the signe of the Crosse may bee made and that euen in the forehead For it is the very case now in question and constantly affirmed by Zanchius that it may bee well vsed though it may also bee laide away To which latter both I and the Church of England doe willingly agree with him But withall I say that seeing it is a ceremonie indifferent and may lawfully bee vsed it is not in the power of a priuate subiect to appoint or commaund to lay it away but peaceably louingly and obediently to admit and receiue the same knowing and euer remembring that in all things lawfull higher powers must be obeyed CHAP. IX Of the Election of Ministers I Haue proued alreadie that the church hath authoritie to make decrees lawes ordinances and constitutions in all things which are Adsaphora indifferent in their owne nature and tend to the peaceable gouernment of the Church for the church of God may safely admit diuers formes and orders wherby it may bee gouerned according to the diuersitie of the state thereof and variable circumstances of times places and persons The same libertie and freedome
Churches of Asia So Titus choose Ministers in Creta and Timotheus choose pastorall Elders at Ephesus And these persons haue authoritie so to doe because the whole church hath chosen them there vnto which by Gods word hath power and commission to choose the ministers of the Church Thus writeth this famous Doctor Out of these wordes I obserue these golden Lessons First that the authoritie to choose and elect the ministers of the church pertaineth vnto the whole church Secondly that the church hath this libertie and power granted to her either to choose them her self by general voices of all or else to appoint some special persons for that ende and purpose Thirdly that the manner of electing church-ministers may be chaunged as the circumstances of times persons or places shall require Fourthly that this varietie of election is grounded vpon Gods word Fiftly that Paul Bernabas Titus and Timotheus did of themselues choose the ministers of the church and consequently that the manner of electing church-ministers this day vsed in the church of England is agreeable to the word of God and also to the Apostolique practise of the Primitiue church For our Bishops doe not exercise any authoritie at all saue that onely which the whole church assembled in Parliament did by vniforme assent committed vnto them The first Obiection S. Cyprian telleth vs that the people haue interest in the Election of Ministers which was giuen them by diuine authoritie Ergo it is not in mans power to take away that freedome from them The Answere I answere First that S. Cyprian meaneth nothing else by diuine authoritie but divine examples not any divine precept commanding it so to be done Uiz. that there are examples in the Scripture by which wee may learne that the common people were present at the election of the Ministers to giue testimonie to the church of their life and conuersation as witnesses of their honest behauiour not as Iudges of the Election This my answere is grounded vpon S. Cyprians owne words which I proue sundry wayes First because he proueth his assertion onely by examples viz. For that Eleazar Matthias the 7. Deacons were chosen in the sight presence of the people Now we know that examples onely shew what may be done but they are not a law which doe or can commaund a thing of necessitie to bee done Christ ministred the holy Eucharist after Supper but wee doe it before dinner The Apostles receiued it sitting but wee take it kneeling Christ ministred it in vnleauened bread but wee in bread that is leauened So we see a great disparitie betwixt examples and precepts The former doe instruct vs but not compell vs the latter doe not onely teach vs but they also commaund vs. Againe because S. Cyprian hath these words Quod ipsum videmus de divina authoritate descendere vt sacerdos plebe praesente sub omnium oculis deligatur dignus atque idoneus publico indicio ac testimonio comprobetur Which thing wee see descends from diuine authoritie that the Priest may bee chosen when the people are present in the eyes of them all that he may be proued worthy by publique iudgement and testimonie And a little after he sheweth more plainly the cause why the people are present at elections Et Episcopus deligatur plebe praesente quae singulorum vitam plenissimè novit And that the Bishop may bee chosen in the presence of the people who know best what euery mans life hath beene Thirdly because S. Cyprian confesseth in that very place that some Prouinces had an other custome whom hee reproueth not I answere secondly that if the Antecedent bee admitted and wee also graunt the peoples interest to be De iure divino yet can nothing be inferred therevpon against the practise of the Church of England The reason is euident because nothing is done in our Churches of England to which the people haue not yeelded their assent as is alreadie proued The 2. Obiection The example of the Apostles saith M. Calvin is to vs Uice praecepti Ergo wee may not chaunge or depart from their practise in any wise The Answere I answere first that I haue proued the contrary both out of Maister Calvin and M. Beza yea M Calvin himselfe granteth freely that Christes owne practise may bee chaunged and that in a matter of greatest moment euen in the blessed Eucharist These are his owne words Nihil a Christs consilio ac voluntate alienū facere videri qui non contemptu neque temeritate sed ipsa necessitate adacti provino aliua in ijs regionibus vsitatae potionis genus usurparent Hoc domini Calvini responsum vt optima ratione nixum Christi consilio consentaneum noster catus adeo comprobavit vt eos superstitiosè sacere censuerimus qui a vini symbolo vsque adeo penderent vt alter ā caenae partem omittere mallent quā Analogon aliud symbolum ita cogente necessitate vsurpare M. Calvin saith M. Beza answered to his brethren in America which haue no wine that they should not doe contrary to Christes will and meaning who not vpon contempt but constrained with necessitie would vse insteede of wine some other kinde of drinke vsuall in that countery Which counsell of M. Calvin our congregation did so well like as grounded vppon good reason and agreeable to Christes counsell that we iudged them to be superstitious which did so depend vpon the Symbole of wine that they had rather omit the one part of the Supper then to vse vpon necessitie an other Symbole proportionable vnto wine This was M. Calvins opinion in this important and most weightie affaire M. Beza likewise deliuereth his iudgement in another subiect of like moment These are his expresse words Secundi generis sunt ipsa signorum materia nonnullorum r●uum a domino institutorum forma vt exempti gratia panis vinum sunt caenae signa ex Domini institutione Ubi igitur panis aut vini vel nullus est vsus vel nulla certo tempore copia num caenae Domini nulla celebrabitur Imò ritè celebrabitur si quod panis aut vini vicem vel ex vsu communi vel pro temporis ratione supplet panis aut vini loco adhibeatur Haec n. mens fuit Christi quum panem ac vinum ad haec mysteria deligeret vt propositis earum rerum signis quibus corpus nostrum alitur veram alimoniam spiritualem velut ob oculos representaret Itaque a Christi sententi a nihil aberrat qui nullo prorsus novandi studio pro pane vino substituat quae etsi non parem similem tamen alimonia analogiam habeant Desie etiam aqua tamen baptismus alicuius differri cum adificatione non possit nec debeat ego certè quovis alio liquore non minus ritè quam aqua baptizarim Of the second kinde are the matter of the signes and the forme of
certaine Rites which our Lord ordained as for examples sake bread and wine are the signes of the Supper by our Lords owne institution Where therefore there is either no vse at all of bread and wine or else great want for a time shall we celebrate no Supper of the Lord Yea it shall bee celebrated aright if that bee taken in the place of bread and wine which either by common vse or in regard of the time is vsed in the stead of bread or wine For this Christ intended when he chose bread and wine for these mysteries that by proposing before our eyes the signes of those things with which our bodies is nourished he might represent the true foode of our soules Therefore he swarueth not at all from Christes meaning who hauing no desire of innovation vseth in stead of bread and wine those things which though they haue not equall yet haue they like proportion of nourishment with bread and wine There wants also water and yet Baptisme neither ought nor can be differed with edification my selfe doubtlesse would baptize in any other liquor no lesse lawfully then I would in water This is maister Bezaes iudgement euen in the essentiall parts of the Sacraments Out of this doctrine thus deliuered by these two learned Doctors M. Calvin and M. Beza I observe these most important documents First that the authoritie of the church is so great that it can alter the matter of the Sacraments both of Baptisme and the Lordes supper if credit may be giuen to these great Doctors doctrine Secondly that the vse of the Lords Supper and of Baptisme is of such necessitie that this chaunge may and ought to be admitted rather then wee bee defrauded of the benefite thereof Thirdly that neither the practise of the Apostles nor the examples of Christ nor yet Christes owne institution No not in the matter of Sacraments is of such force and moment but that the church vpon good and necessarie cause may alter and chaunge the same And consequently it must needes be graunted neither can it with any colour of reason bee denied that the Church may chaunge the maner of choosing her ministers as necessarie circumstances of times places and persons shall require Especially seeing there is neither example commandement or institution of Christ to the contrarie CHAP. X. Of the ordeining of Ministers and the Ceremonies thereto apperteining THat Bishops haue and euer had authoritie to make order and admit Ministers of the Church it is so cleere and evident by the Scriptures Councels Fathers and continuall practise of the Church that I cannot but admire their audatious temeritie that doe oppugne the same Marke well the answers to all the Obiections in this Chapter Saint Paul chargeth Bishop Timothie not to lay his hands rashly on any man And the same Saint Paul telleth vs that he left Bishop Titus at Creta that he might order and make ministers in euery towne Now that Timothie and Titus ordained Ministers it is cleere by the Text it selfe But two doubts remaine The one whether Timothie and Titus had more authoritie then other common Ministers or not The other whether they alone ordained Ministers or with the ioynt-authoritie of others Touching the former I haue prooued alreadie by many testimonies that both Titus and Timotheus were Arch-bishops and had superioritie ouer many other Bishops I will heare adioyne the testimonie of Hemingius whose wordes are these Attamen Paulus gradu digns tatis ordine Timotheo Tito erat superior Timotheus gradu ordine excelluit reliquos Ephesmae vrbis presbyteros Et Titus Cretensihus praecrat Sequitur inter hos ministros agnoscit etiam ecclesia nostra gradus dignitatis ordines pro diversitate donorum laborum magnitudine ac v●cationum dignitate ac iudicat barbaricum esse de ecclesia hunc ordinem tollere velle Iudicat caeteros Ministros suis episcopis oportere obtemperare in omnibus quod ad adificationem ecclesiae faciunt iuxta verbum dei ac vtilem ecclesiae oeconomium Iudicat episcoposius habere in caeteros ministros ecclesiae non despoticum sed patrium But Paul in deegree and order of dignitie was superiour to Timothie and Titus Timothie in degree and order excelled all other Presbyters or Priestes of Ephesus and Titus was gouernour ouer the Cretions Among these Ministers our Church also acknowledgeth degrees of dignitie orders according to the diuersitie of giftes labours and calling and deemeth him to bee a plain rudes be that once hath but a minde to take this order out of the Church Our Church also iudgeth that all other Ministers must obey their Bishops in all things which pertaine to edification according to the word of God and the profitable dispensation of the Church Shee iudgeth that the Bishops haue a soueraigntie ouer all other Ministers of the Church yet not despoticall but paternall Touching the latter the scripture is plaine that none but Bishops did ordaine Church-ministers at any time And these Fathers of the Church affirme cōstantly that this was a speciall knowne prerogative of Bishops that they and none but they could order and make Ministers of the Church S. Hierome hath these evident expresse words Quid enim facit excepta ordinatione Episcopus quod presbyter non faciat For what doth a Bishop which a Priest doth not the ordering of Ministers excepted Loe in this one thing doth a Bishop differ from Priests and inferiour Ministers because no other Minister saue onely a Bishop can ordaine and make Ministers of the Church Saint Epiphanius who liued aboue one thousand and two hundred yeares agoe affirmeth plainly that Bishops onely make Priests that is begetteth fathers to the Church and both he and Saint Austin enrolled the contrarie opinion among flat heresies censuring all them for Heretiques that held or defended such absurdities Saint Irenaeus who liued next to the Apostles and so could not bee ignorant what was the Church practise in their dayes maketh this my doctrine without question and beyond all exception that Bishops euen in the Apostolique time were different in degree from Priests and did create and make Priests but neuer were created of Priests No no if Priests could make Priests or if it were not an Apostolicall tradition that that charge doth appertaine onely to Bishops as it is this day laubably obserued in the Church of England then doubtlesse Aerius could neuer haue beene censured for an Heretique Adde hereunto that which I haue alreadie deliuered in the fist Chapter in the first and second Paragraph and thou shalt finde this Doctrine to be agreeable to the practise of Christs church in all former ages See Zanchius and note well his wordes Note well also the Answere to the second Obiection The first Obiection It appeareth by Saint Hierome in his Epistle to Evagrius that one minister was made superiour to an other onely by the ordinance of men The Answere I answere First that
Saint Hierome calleth that mans ordinance which was done by the Apostles immediately for that they were men indeed as we our selues are Secondly that superiority of one Minister ouer and aboue an other was in the Apostles time and proceeded from authoritie apostolicall This is alreadie proued Thirdly that a thing may bee called de iure diuine a diuine institution or ordinance two waies First because it is of God immediately Secondly for that it is of them who are so directed by Gods holy spirit that they cannot erre This phrase of speach Saint Paul vseth in these wordes to the remnant I speake and not the Lord. Where we may not doubt but all that Saint Paul spoke was from the Lord and that his ordinance was diuine and not meere humane And in this sense the superioritie of Bishops ouer other inferiour Ministers of the Church may bee called De iure diuine or an ordinance diuine Saint Hierome calleth it an humane ordinance rather then Diuine because it was De iure diuine onely in genere and mediately and De iure humano in specie and immediately The second Obiection In the primitiue Church there was neither Arch-bishop Patriarke nor Metropolitan and yet no Church did or can excell the same in gouernment beautie or perfection The Answere I answere First that though in the very beginning of the primitiue Church there were no Arch-bishops Patriarches or Metropolitans yet were such very shortly after euen in the time of the Apostles as is alreadie proued Secondly that though Arch-bishops and Metropolitans were not expressely named yet were they equivalently implyed in the Apostles Thirdly that as the Church for a time wanted Arch-bishops and Bishops so did it also want Deacons and vnpriested Elders And as the defect of the latter did not argue the imperfection of the Church for that time so neither did the want of the former inferre any such necessarie consequence Fourthly that as the Church had authoritie for the circumstances of times places and persons to ordaine Deacons and vnpriested Seniours if any such euer were so also had it then and this day hath like authoritie to ordaine Arch-bishops and other Ministers of the church for the common good vnitie and peace of the same Whosoeuer shall read attentiuely Maister Bullingers wordes against the Anabaptists of his time shall finde and perceiue very euidently that hee constantly defendeth this my opinion and doctrine Maister Bucer maketh this case most euident whilest hee sheweth the libertie freedome and authoritie of the Church in these most pithy and golden wordes At vero de ●aeteris signis quae in sacris adhibita sunt a veteri●●● ve● hodi● adhibentur a multis vt sunt ignis ad oxorcijmes catechi mos alba vestis baptizatorum sacer panis qui dabatur catechumenis pleraque alia sic sentio Siquae ecclesiae essent quae puram Christi tenerent doctrinam sinceram servarent disciplinem hisque signis vterentur simpli●itèr purè absque omni superstitione vel levitate praecise ad pias admonitiones easquo probè ommbus intellectas eas ecclesias non possem equidem propter signorum talem vsum condemnare Sequitur hinc fit vt homines sicut in privatis publicis actionibus faciunt ita vtilitèr etiam pleraque signa adhibeant sacris ceremorijs Iterum ibidem signum impositionis manuum etiam episcopi soli prabebant non absque ratione Sive n sic faedus domini baptizatis confirmandum● sive reconciliandiij qui gras viù● peccarunt sive ecclesijs ministri ordinandi haec omnia ministeria maximè decent eos quibus summa ecclesiarum cur a demandata est Touching all other ceremonies which were vsed of ancient time in the holy misteries or are this day in vse with many as fire to Exorcismes and Catechismos the white garment of the Baptized holy bread giuen to the Catechumenes and many other things my opinion is this if there were any Churches which retained pure doctrine and sincere discipline and did vse these signes and ceremonies simplely and purely without all superstition or leuitie precisely to godly admonitions well vnderstood of all the people I verily could not condemne those churches for the vse of such signes or ceremonies Hence it commeth that as men doe in priuate and publique actions so also may they adde many signes vnto their holy ceremonies and that not without profit The signe also of imposition of hands was giuen by Bishops onely and that not without reason For whether the baptized were to bee confirmed with the couenant of the Lord or they who had sinned grieuously were to be reconciled or Ministers were to be ordained vnto Churches all these ministeries doe especially partaine vnto them to whom the chiefest charge of the church is committed Out of these golden wordes of this great learned Doctor and renowned Writer I obserue these worthy lessons First that in the auncient approued Churches were many Ministeries with which inferiour Ministers then called Priests as our Church this day vseth the same names had not to doe withall Secondly that onely Bishops who were superiours in degree could make order and consecrate Priests and other inferiour Ministers of the Church Thirdly that onely Bishops and not Priests did confirme the baptized by imposition of hands Which thing our English Church doth this day lawdably obserue howsoeuer some mal-contents more rashly then wisely impugne the same Fourthly that the Church hath authoritie to constitute symbols signes and ceremonies and to adde them vnto the holy misteries Fiftly that we may not condemne those Churches which for godly considerations without superstition doe vse such signes and ceremonies as were not knowne or heard of in the primitiue Church Oh that this doctrine were well marked and remembred for then doubtlesse all dissention would cease and all mal-contents would yeeld obedience to the godly settled Lawes of our English Church Maister Zuinglius a very learned and famous Writer and a most zealous professor of Christs Gospell is able to satisfie all indifferent Readers These are his expresse wordes Simul illud notari debet quod apostolorum nomen deposuerunt vt primùm vni alicui ecclesiae affixi illius curam continuam habuerant cum nimirum vel senecta impediti vel morbis afflicti peregrinationum molestijs periculis amplius sufficere non potuerunt Tunc n. non apostoli amplius sed episcopi dicti sunt Possumus autem huins rei exemplum imo testem adducere D. Iacobum quem nos minorem ab atate dicimus Hunc n. Huronimus omnes simul vetusti patres Hierosolymitanorum episcopum nominant non aliam ob causam quam quod ea in vrbe sedem fixam posuisset Cum n. antea vt reliqui apostoli peregrinationibus deditus fidem vbique terrarum docuisset tandem abipsis apostolis constitutus est qui Hierosolymitanae ecclesiae curā ceu diligens aliquis speculator ageret idem de
Iohanne euangelista christi discipulo dicere possumus Cùm n. multis varijs periculis obiectus apostolieam functionem longo tempore administravisset tandem Ephesiorum episcopus factus in ea vrbe anno ab ascensione domini sexagesimo octavo è vivis excessit This also must be marked that they laid away the name of Apostles so soone as they were tyed to any one church and had the continuall charge thereof To wit when they being either hindered with old age or afflicted with diseases were no longer able to endure troubles and molestations of trauaile For then they were no longer called Apostles but Bishops We may bring Saint Iames the yonger for an example or rather for a witnesse of this matter For Hierome and all the auncient Fathers call him the Bishop of Hierusalem and for no other cause saue onely that he had placed himselfe in that citie For when in former times hee as the rest of the Apostles being giuen to peregrination had taught the faith euery where the Apostles made him as a diligent watchman the Bishop of Hierusalem The same we may say of Saint Iohn the Euangelist and disciple of Christ. For when he being exposed to many dangers had executed the apostolicall function a long time hee was at length made the Bishop of Ephesus and died 68 yeares after our Lords ascension Out of these words of this excellēt discourse I note first that in the Apostles something was extraordinarie and temporarie and something likewise ordinarie and perpetuall This is an obseruation of great moment well worthy to be engrauen in Marble with a Penne of Gold Secondly that the Apostles were some time Bishops and that their function in that respect was perpetuall Thirdly that so soone as they betooke themselues to an ordinarie calling they ceased to bee called Apostles and were named Bishops And this their ordinarie calling remaineth this day in the Church and shall continue vntill the worlds ende Hence commeth it that all the holy Fathers affirme with vniforme consent that Bishops this day succeede the Apostles in their ordinarily calling This graue Writer deliuereth his opinion for ceremonies most plainly and prudently in these expresse wordes Iam obijciebant odiose nimis salem butyrum salivam lutum alia id genus imo ipsas quoque orationes quae super infantibus fiunt quod neque Iohannes neque apostoli legerentur orationibus baptismo praeivisse Ad quae sic respondimus primùm ad ceremonias Christum interim caecos quosdam visui restituisse mediantibus tactu aut luto interim solo verbo respice neque tamen eos minùs vidisse qui tactu vel luto mediante aciem recepissent quàm qui solo verbo at nihil morari nos externa ista si ecclesia iubeat res●indi factumque est vt protinus iuberet non ignorantibus nobis qui verbo praesumus iam inter exordia ecclesiae horum fuisse vsum tametsi eis non tantum tribueretur atque his nostris temporibus vndè citrà negotium recidimus Now they obiected too odiously Butter Salt spittle Cley and such like yea the very praiers made ouer infants because neither Iohn nor the Apostles are read to haue preuented baptisme with prayers To which wee answered and first to the ceremonies that Christ sometime cured the blinde by touching and Clay sometime by his word onely neither for all that did they see lesse who receiued sight by Clay and touching then they which sawe by his onely word but we make no reckoning of these externall things if the church command them to be taken away and wee obe●ed as shee appointed albeit wee ministers are not ignorant that in the beginning of the church these ceremonies were vsed though not in such sort as now adaies and therfore without contradiction we reiect them Out of this dicourse we may learne sufficiently howe to behaue our selues touching ceremonies viz. to vse or refuse signes and ceremonies as beeing thinges indifferent as the church shall thinke it expedient and appoint to be done Hemingius an other famous late writer hath these words Augustinus Ambrosius non offenduntur ex coque aliae Remae aliae Mediolani essent ceremoniae Nam inter se iunguntur pij spiritis Christi non humanis ceremonijs Vt pios gubernatores ecclesiarum velim magno studio cavere ne ceremoniae scandalo sint infirmis it a privatos nolim quicquam mutare in ceremonijs gravi authoritate a maioribus institutis approbatis Neque est quod exactissima ratio singularum ceremoniarum inquiratur modo non manifestam superstitionem impietatem redoleant Quidam offenduntur ceremonijs nostris quas clamitant papisticas esse Dicunt nos habere sacerdotes altaria vectes candelos imagines exorcismos signationes crucis planè papistico more His ego respondeo ecclesiam veram a falsae dictingunendam doctrina cultu non ceremonijs quae per se adiaphorae sunt Neque n ceremonias adiaphoras tanti momenti esse indicamus vt propter illas schismata moveantur in ecclesia Retineatur doctrinae sinceritas retineatur purus dei cultus Alia serviant partim tranquillitati partim infirmitati hominum relinquamus prudentia quberuatorum de his rebus dispiciant Austen and Ambrose are not offended that Rome had one kind of ceremonies and Millan an other For the godly are lincked together by the spirit of Christ not by humane ceremonies As I wish the godly gouernours of Churches to be very circumspect that ceremonies doe not scandalize weakelings so would I not haue priuate persons to alter any thing in ceremonies which our auncestors with graue authoritie haue ordained approued Neither is there any cause why we should require an exact reason of euery ceremonie so that they imply not any manifest superstition and impietie Some are offended with our ceremonies crying out that they are papisticall They say we haue Priests Alters Vestures Candels Images Exorcismes Crossings euen after the Popish manner To these good fellowes I aunswere that the true Church is distinguished from the false in doctrine and worship but not in ceremonies which are of their owne nature things indifferent For we thinke not ceremonies indifferent to be of such moment that for them wee may make a Schisme in the Church Let vs retaine the sinceritie of Doctrine and hold fast the pure worship of GOD. Let other things serue partly peace and tranquillitie partly the infirmitie of men and let vs leaue these things to the prudent consideration of our superiours and let them dispose thereof Out of these wordes of this great learned Writer wee may gather all things necessarie for the decision of all controuersies about rites and ceremonies of the Church For first hee telleth vs that the varietie of ceremonies at Rome and Millan did not offend Saint Austen and Saint Ambrose Secondly that priuate persons must bee obedient to the lawes of their superiours and
an Israelite more addicted to idolatrie then were the Gentiles Besides this the wicked pretensed Queene Athalia had traiterously murdered and wholy extinguished all the lawfull royall blood the yong childe king Ioas onely excepted whom God contrarie to her knowledge had miraculously preserued and withall shee had set vp the worship of Baal Wherefore it was the parts of the Priests and Peeres of the Kingdome to protect the King to defend his royall right to suppresse the vsurped power of Athalia and to deliuer the King his kingdome and themselues from the confused Ataxia Idolatrie bloodie tyrannie which she had brought vpon them by her violent intr●sion and vniust vsurpation of the royall right of Ioas their Lawfull King and vndoubted soueraigne So then albeit the Ministerie of feeding of Preaching Gods word and of the administration of his Sacraments pertaine onely to his ministers neither may the meere ciuill magistrate in any wise intermedle therewith yet for al that most true it is that the prouision for the food the ouer sight that the children of God be duly fed and that the ministers doe exercise their functiōs in vigilant dutifull manner belongeth to the ciuil independant and absolute princes For this respect is it that Kings and Queenes haue the names of nurses not for that they nourish their children in ciuil matters onely but as in ciuil so also in spirituall that is to say in lacte verbi dei in the milke of the word of God For though the execution pertaine to the ministers yet the prouision direction appointment care and ouer-sight which is the supreame gouernmēt indeed belongeth onely soly and wholy to the prince For this cause is it that King Ezechias highly renowned in holy Writ though he were but yong in yeares did for all that in regard of his prerogatiue royall and supreame authoritie in causes ecclesiasticall call the Priests and Leuits his sonnes charging them to heare him and to followe his direction and commandement for so are the words of the text This notwithstanding I graunt freely and willingly that ministers in the action of their ecclesiastical function church-ministerie are aboue all christians aboue Queenes Kings and Monarches representing God vnto them teaching admonishing rebuking them euen as all others following the godly example therein of S. Iohn that Baptist. Yea if need so require and that the vices of the princes kings and monarches be notorious scandalous to the whole church the Bishops may denounce such potentates to be enemies to the truth aduersaries to GOD and no true members of the Church but forlorne people to be reputed as Ethnicks publicans vntill they giue true signes of vnfeyned repentance But withall this must euer be remembred and most loyally obserued of all Bishops in Christs Church viz. that the prince though full of manifest vices most notorious crimes in the world may neuer be shunned neither of the people nor of the Bishops seeing God hath appointed him to bee their gouernour Much lesse may the people forsake their obedience to his sacred prerogatiue royall and supereminent authoritie And least of all for it is most execrable damnable and plaine diabolicall may either the people alone or the Bishops alone or both ioyntly together depose their vndoubted soveraigne though a Tyrant Heretique or Apostata For all loyall obedience and faithfull seruice in all civil affaires and whatsoever els is lawfull they must euer yeeld vnto him He may bee admonished by the Ministers in the Court of conscience concerning his publique offences but he may neuer bee iudged in the court of their Consistorie touching his power royall and princely prerogatiue their power is only to admonish and rebuke him and to pray to God to amend that is amisse Hee hath no iudge that can punish him but the great iudge of all euen the GOD of heauen Note the answeres to all the obiections following marke them seriously The 2. Obiection Great learned men doe hold that there were vnpriested Seniors in the Primitiue Church who together with the Pastors did gouerne the Church And the same is this day practised in many reformed Churches The Answere I answere First that I doe not condemne the practise of other reformed Churches but teach plainly and Christianly that euery Church hath freedome libertie and authoritie to make such canons orders ordinances and constitutions as shall bee thought most meete fit and conuenient for the external gouernment thereof Which thing I haue already proued not onely by the practise of the Church in all ages but also by the vniforme assent and constant verdict of best approoued Patrons of the reformed Churches in this age Secondly that those great Patrons of the reformed Churches who deeme vnpriested Elders to be convenient for their particular precincts free cities and common weales doe for all that thinke an other gouernment more fit for Christian Monarchies and doe highly commend the same I might alledge the ioynt testimonies of M. Gualter M. Hemingius M. Bucer and of many other famous late Writers But in regard of breuitie onely M. Musculus shall content me for the present These are his expresse words Principio vt constituat ecclesiarum ministres vbi illi desiderantur sive eligat eos ipse five ab alijs iussu ipsim electos confirmet Neque n. convenit vt praeter authoritatem potestatis publicae public a quisquā numer a in ecclesia obeat Dices at secùs factūest in primis ecclesiis in quibus a ministris ac plebe eligebantur ecclesiarum antistites Respondeo talis tum ecclesiarum erat status vt aliter non essent eligendi ministri propterea quod Christiano magistratu destituebantur Sirevocas temporum illorum mores primùm conditiones ac statum quoque illorum revoca First it is the dutie of the ciuil magistrate to constitute the ministers of the church where they be wanting whether he choose thē himselfe or confirme those which others by appointment haue chosen For it is not meete that any minister execute any function in the Church without the authoritie of the publique Magistrate You will say But it was otherwise in the Primitiue Church where the Ministers and the people did choose their Gouernours I answere the state of the Church was then such that the Ministers of the Church could not be chosen otherwise because then they were destitute of a Christian Magistrate If thou wilt vse the manners of that time thou must first call againe the condition and state of that time Out of these words I note many golden obseruations First that the ciuill Magistrate may appoint and elect the ministers of the Church Secondly that none can lawfully execute any Church-foundation or bee a Minister of the Church without election assent authoritie or confirmation of the ciuil magistrate Thirdly that the ciuil magistrate may either choose the ministers himselfe or appoint others to doe it Fourthly that the gouernment of the
church may be altered according to the circūstances of times places persons Fiftly that the English long expected presbyterie can not stand with our English Christian Monarchie For she challengeth that as her proper office which as Musculus truly saith doth properly pertaine to the ciuill Christian Magistrate I say thirdly that it cannot be concluded out of the holy Scriptures that any annuall vnpriested Elders had the rule of the Church with the Pastors and Bishops I say fourthly that for want of Christian Princes laicall Elders may be assumed to the Church-gouernment to help and assist the pastors Yea I further graunt that the said Elders may remaine vnder a christian prince so it be with his assent good pleasure and moderation But I constantly denie that such kind of gouernment must of necessitie bee had in and vnder a Christian Monarchie The first Reply S. Ambrose writeth plainly that the Synagogue and after the Church had Seniours without whose counsell nothing was done in the Church The which saith hee by what negligence it was left of I can not tell except happily it were through the slouth or rather the pride of some pastors because they alone would seeme to bee somewhat The Answere I answere first that S. Ambrose did not thinke those Elders of whom hee speaketh to be necessarie for the government of the Church I prooue it because hee being a most learned zealous and godly Arch-bishop would for his zeale and pietie haue laboured to restore them and could for his great authoritie haue effected the same Secondly that Saint Ambrose speaketh of Elders in yeares not of Elders in Office that is of wise graue and olde men of great experience whom the Bishops in former times tooke in counsell with them as did also the auncient Synagogue Our Church-wardens in this age doe in some sort resemble them It something grieued holy Ambrose that graue men auncient in yeares whom the Apostle would not haue reproued roughly did not remaine in like esteeme with the pastors of the Church as they were of old This is the true meaning and sense of S. Ambrose concerning those Elders he speaketh of I prooue it out of S. Ambrose his owne wordes which are these Nam apud omnes vtique gentes honorabilis est senectus For among all nations olde age is honoured For which cause both the Synagogue of old and the Church afterward had alwayes certaine old men without whose aduise nothing was done in the Church Loe he speaketh of honouring Elders and auncient men in regard of their yeares But he neuer meant to equalize them with those who were Elders in calling and gouerned the Churches vnder him No no the blessed man Ambrose that graue and holy Bishop of Millan neuer dreamed or once conceiued in minde that any order of the Ministerie set downe by Christes Apostles was worne out of vse in his time The 2. Reply S. Hierome who followed S. Ambrose immediately telleth vs most plainly that in his time the Presbyterie or Eldership was in the Church The Answere I answere first that if wee suppose your Presbyterie to haue beene in Saint Hieroms time and not in the dayes of Saint Ambrose it will fauour vs and wholy make against your helpes The reason is euident because that which may bee vsed at some time and be wanting at other times is not of necessitie to be vrged at all times and this is all that wee desire Secondly Saint Hierome speaketh of Priested Elders and not of men in no degree of the Ministerie His wordes are these Et nos habemus in ecclesia senatum nostrum caetum Presbyterorum And we haue in the Church our Senate a companie of Elders or Priestes Loe hee speaketh of Priestes and of Colledges of Cathedrall Churches I proue it by two reasons First for that himselfe telleth vs in his words afore-going that he speaketh of those Elders whose election Saint Paul describeth vnto Timothie Againe because it is vnpossible that those vnpriested Elders should bee in Saint Hieromes time who were worne out in Saint Ambrose his time because Saint Austin S. Ambrose and S. Hierome were all at one and the same time The 3. Obiection The long expected Presbyterie is no way preiudiciall to the Christian Monarchie but giueth to him so much as the Scripture alloweth The Answere M. Gualter a zealous vertuous and learned Writer of high esteeme in the reformed Churches sheweth plainly vnto the world what right and authoritie the new presbyterie ascribeth vnto Princes These are his wordes The Donatists of our time ought to consider these things more diligently which doe ouer rashly condemne whole Cities and Countries where the word of God is preached the sacraments rightly administred publique praier celebrated the poore sufficiently prouided for and vices by good and godly lawes for bidden and punished All these things they esteem as nothing except there be a certaine new magistracie appointed which should haue authoritie ouer Princes also The same learned writer in another place discourseth in this manner There be sundry that will needes institute Elders or an ecclesiasticall Senate according to the example of the Primitiue Church which also should haue authoritie ouer the Magistrates themselues if at any time they did not their dutie But it behooueth them first to shew that those their Seniours haue this power whereof Paul doth presently speake which thing seeing it doth by no meanes appeare and yet they deliuer vnto Satan whome they will they doe like as if some would goe about to cleanse the leaprous raise the dead and worke other miracles because these things were vsually done in the primitiue Church The same learned Doctor in another place writeth thus Their ambition is reproued which goe about to bring all Churches to the forme of their discipline and government cry out that there is no discipline there where all things are not agreeable to their traditions and orders But these mē receiue a iust reward of their arrogancy when they that come frō them to other countries goe beyond all men in fancinesse bring nothing from home but a vaine and intollerable contempt of all good men neither can they abide to be corrected by any admonition of others The zealous godly and learned Doctor Musculus hath these expresse words We thinke otherwise then they who denie to Christian Magistrates authoritie to make ecclesiasticall Lawes We boldly affirme that all power of making authenticall Lawes which binde the consciences of the subiects whether they be ciuill or ecclesiasticall doe neither pertaine to the multitude of the faithfull nor to the Ministers of Gods word but properly to the Magistrate onely to whom more power is giuen ouer his subbiects Wherevpon they are called in the Scripture Gods who doe execute the Magistracie which name of honour we doe not reade that it was giuen vnto the Priestes The very reason and nature of gouerning can not suffer that there be 2.
Of the discipline of the Church The first Section of the multiplicitie of Church-discipline THe Authors Patrons and seekers of the new English presbyterie reckon vp three parts of church-discipline viz 1. the election abdication of ecclesiasticall officers 2. the excommunication of the stubborne and absolution of the repentant 3. the decision of all such matters as rise vp in the church whether it be touching corrupt manners or peruerse doctrine For answere whereunto marke the next Section The second Section containing an answere vnto the former There is but one onely kind of publique church-discipline which is called in the new testament by the name of excommunication I say publique because I grant priuate admonition and reprehension to be a certaine kind of priuate discipline I say church-discipline because I acknowledge also ciuill discipline Discipline consisteth intrinsecally in the punishing and correcting of vice It is one part of the churches pollicie farre different from the election of ministers and decision of controuersies The third Section of the essence nature and condition of church-discipline The Patrones of the English presbyterie doe make it an essential part of the Gospell so necessarie to saluation as no Church can bee without it but the truth is otherwise I proue it first because S. Paul giueth a singular commendation to the Church of Corinth although it wanted at that time the Church-discipline which is excommunication Secondly because we may stay and continue in that Church which is destitute of excommunication Which doubtlesse we could not doe if excommunication were a part of Christs Gospell and necessarie vnto saluation For we must flee from that Church which wanteth any thing necessarie to saluation This notwithstāding many learned men euē of best accoūt in the reformed churches do think it lawfull to remaine in those Churches where excommunication is not in vse Maister Bullinger writing against the Anabaptists hath these words This the Anabaptists vrge that there is no true Church acceptable vnto God where there is no excommunication To whom we answere that the Church of Corinth was a true Church and so acknowledged of Paul before there was any vse of excommunication in it The same doctrine is taught vniformely of maister Caluin maister Gualter and others Thirdly wheresoeuer the word of God is truly preached and his Sacraments lawfully administred there is Christs Church vndoubtedly For these are the true markes by which best learned Writers discerne the Church of God The case is euident enough it is needelesse to spend much time about it Vide sententiam Gualteri in fine sectionis subsequentis The fourth Section of the persons that must excommunicate Excommunication precisely and chiefely pertaineth to the Church and secondly to those to whom the Church hath cōmitted the execution thereof I proue it by Christs owne wordes in his holy Gospell where hee willeth his Disciples to tell the faults of their brethren if they will not heare them vnto the Church that is to say vnto the whole congregation And forthwith Christ addeth these wordes Verily I say vnto you whatsoeuer ye bind on earth shall be bound in heauen and whatsoeuer yee loose on earth shall be loosed in heauen Againe in an other place he giueth the same authoritie of binding and loosing vnto Peter alone which hee gaue in the other place to all the Apostles ioyntly Thirdly in an other place he giueth power to remit retain sins vnto his Disciples onely soly Out of which three seuerall commissions of our Lord Iesus I gather and conceiue two generall rules and settled lawes The one that onely the successors of Christs Apostles and Disciples haue the keyes of the kingdome of heauen that is of opening and shutting of binding and loosing of remitting and retaining sinnes as also the power of excommunication touching the vse and execution thereof I say touching the vse and execution thereof because it is one thing to execute excommunication and the keyes of heauen an other thing to commit the execution thereof to others The other that the whole Church hath authoritie to commit the execution of the keyes and of excommunication to some speciall persons fit for that purpose for comlinesse and order sake and for auoyding of confusion This my resolution I will proue to be grounded vpon the doctrine of great learned men highly renowned in the reformed Churches two things I haue to proue first that the whole Church hath power to commit the keyes and excōmunication to some certaine fit persons chosen for that end and purpose Secondly that onely the Ministers of the word Sacramēts can denounce the sentence and put the same in execution Concerning the former Maister Bullinger hath a long and learned discourse which is able to satisfie any indifferent Reader These are his expresse wordes caeterum video controversum inter quosdam nostri aevi homines c. But I perceiue it is a controuersie among certaine men of our age who should haue power to punish sinne and to execute the discipline of the Church some ascribing it to the whole Church other some to speciall men chosē for that purpose Doubtlesse I cannot perceiue that they offend who giue this power to certain men chosē for that end wtout doubt they doe not offend against Gods word But they obiect if he shal not heare you tel it to the church Now some chosē men are not the church But these men perceiue not that Christ his Apo. vsed the figure Synecdoche For Paul saith you being gathered with my spirit And in the latter Epistle he saith it is sufficient to the same man that he was rebuked of many If they wil stand vpon Christs words literally we wil see when they wil bring the whole church together But we speake say they of the particular Church We therfore haue the victory who say that Christ vsed the figure Synecdoche We graunt that this power is giuen to the whole Church but we call the congregation of good men the Church For it followeth forthwith in the very words of our lord where two or three are gathered together in my name there am I in the mids of them Therfore if Christ as they graunt committed the ecclesiasticall discipline to a particular church two or three much more eight or twelue make a particular church what letteth that christ cōmitted not the same to chosen men who are consecrate to Christs name seeing the authoritie of ecclesiasticall discipline is more intiere renowned among chosen godly men then among the confused vulgar sort who as they lack iudgement so are they often carried away with affections Haec Bullingerus Maister Gualter hath these words potestatis christi meminit alludeut ad mat 18. ne ille ecclesie sententiā cōtemneret et hoc iubet quiatunc non erat alia tales coercendi quādo magistratus non erant christiani ali● qui iste paenas dedisset secundum
same Canon is confirmed as very authenticall both by the councell of Antioch and by the first councell of Nice celebrated in the time of Constantine the great The auncient and famous councel of Sardica hath these wordes Hoc quoque omnibus placeat vt siue diaconus siue presbyter siue quis clericorum ab episcopo suo communione fuerit privatus et ad alterum perrexerit episcopum et scierit ille ad quem confugit cum ab episcopo suo fuisse abiectum non opertere vt ei communionem indulgeat Let vs all agree hereunto that if a Deacon or a Priest or any of the Cleargie be excōmunicated of his own Bishop and shall flee to an other Bishop then he may not giue him the communion if he knewe that his owne Bishop did excommunicate him The secōd councell holden at Carthage hath these words Placet vt si presbyter excommunicatut aut correctus a suo episcopo sacrificare praesumpserit anathematizetur We agree that if a Priest being excommunicated or punished by his owne Bishop shall presume to celebrate accursed be that man And the selfe same decree is to be read in the sixt councell of Carthage Ex Patribus Saint Ambrose that graue learned and holy Bishop did alone excommunicate the Emperour Theodosius Theototus Bishop of Laodicea did himselfe alone excommunicate two Apolli●aries the father being a Priest and the sonne being a Reader The cause thereof was this viz. because they kept companie with a prophane Sophister Epiphanius and heard his vngodly rimes which he had made in the honour of Bacchus Alezander that godly and famous Bishop of Alexandria did by himselfe alone excommunicate Arrtus as both Sozomenus and Nioephorus doe contest in their stories Nicephorus hath these expresse wordes Alexander illum et cum eo qui partes cius sequerētur clericos omnes excōmunie avit Alexander did both excommunicate Arrius and all the clerkes that held his opinion Yea this was a rule so receiued and a practise so common in the auncient Churches that when a controuersie arose about the celebration of Easter Victor that zealous Bishop of Rome about one thousand and foure hundred yeares agoe would haue excōmunicated all the Bishops of Aus● if Irenaeus the good Bishop of Lyons had not disswaded him from that attempt The first Obiection Saint Paul did not alone excommunicate the incestuous Corinthian but together with the whole congregation For he saith when ye are gathered together and my spirit The Answere I answere first that though Christ gaue the keyes and the power of remitting and retaining sinnes vnto the whole Church yet did he commit the vse and execution of that power vnto his Apostles and their successors til the worlds end Secondly that the Apostle himselfe alone did excommunicate the Corinthian and required the presence of the people no otherwise then the same is this day required in our English Churches viz that the sentence be pronounced in the hearing of the congregation that they may therby auoid his companie that is excommunicated and be terrified from the like offence I proue it because Saint Paules words are these for I verely as absent in body but present in spirit haue determined alreadie as though I were present By which words it is most apparant that the determination of the matter resteth onely in himself and not in the people For otherwise he could not haue dicided the matter in their absence and without their assent And it is confirmed to be thus because he alone excommunicated Alexander the Copper Smith and the same may bee thought probably of Hymeneus and Philetus The second Obiection Theodosius confessed his fault before the congregation and asked forgiuenesse of the same and thereupon was obsolued And so it appeareth that Ambrose alone did not excommunicate the Emperour The Answere It is the vsuall practise in our English Church that no excommunicate person be receiued into the Church again vntill he haue made publike confession and asked pardon for his offence And this notwithstanding the Bishop alone doth excommunicate as S. Ambrosius did the Emperour The Replie You say that the execution of excommunication pertaineth onely to the successours of the Apostles so consequently it must pertaine to all Ministers of Gods holy Word and Sacraments and not onely to your lordly Bishops The Answere I answere first that no such consequence can be inferred vpon my graunt For though I graunt and that truly that none but Ministers of Gods word and Sacraments can lawfully denounce the sentence of excommunication yet will it not follow thereupon that I giue the same power to euery Minister in generall For it is one thing to say that none but Ministers can doe it an other thing to affirme that euery Minister Promiscuè may doe it Secondly that all Ministers haue power habituall to excommunicate but those Ministers onely haue actuall power to doe it to whō the Church hath committed that iurisdiction For seeing the Church hath all the power graunted to her dispensation shee may giue to this or that Minister more or lesse as shall be thought conuenient in her discretion CHAP. XIII Of Preaching and other things coincident The first Section of the vocation of Ministers which cannot Preach ALthough it were to be wished that all Ministers of Gods worde and Sacraments should be able to Preach and to deuide Gods word aright vnto the people yet where and when sufficient men of that abilitie cannot be had others of meaner talents and honest behauiour may not be reiected And to hold that none may be ordered and admitted to administer the Sacraments and to reade the Scriptures and godly Prayers in the Church for the comfort and edisication of the people is not onely against Christs institution but also against the vsual practise of the church in all ages Neither is it possible to alledge for the ground of the contrarie opinion either any sound reason out of holy Writ or any one testimonie of any of the holy fathers or any canon out of any ancient councell The latter member viz. that it is against the continuall practise of the church is as cleere as the Sunneshning at noone day therfore I deem it a thing needlesse to spend wordes in that behalfe The former member viz. that it is against Christs holy ordinance I prooue out of Christs owne words in his last supper when he said to his Disciples Hoc facitè in mei memoriam Doe this in my remembrance By these wordes as all the holy fathers and Doctors affirme constantly Christ made his Apostles Priests or Ministers giuing them power and authoritie onely to consecrate the blessed Sacrament of his body and blood and to deliuer the same vnto his people Neither could they lawfully haue either baptized or preached remitted and retained sinnes vntill they had receiued further authoritie so to doe which was not granted to them indeede vntill Christs
glorious resurrection Whereupon it followeth by a necessarie and ineuitable consequ●tion which neuer can be answered that the Preaching of GODS word and the administration of his holy Sacraments are not so inseperably vnited and linked together but that the one may stand intiere and pe●fect without the other For Christs will and holy ordinance is that onely rule by which and after which all the actions policie and gouernment of his Curch must be measured ordered and disposed And this reason ab authoritate legislatoris is confirmed by an other argument drawen ab exemplo Wedlocke or Marriage instituted for a triple ende viz. for procreation of children for the avoyding of fornication and for mutuall helpe and societie is perfect and lawfull for the secondarie ends though the first cannot be atchieued For marriage is lawfull in old women quib desinunt muliedria which are past the date of bearing children as all learned men doe graunt Ergo the institution and ordering of Priests or Ministers for a triple end viz. for Preaching of Gods word for administration of his holy Sacraments and for reading of the holy Scriptures godly prayers for the comfort edification of the congregation is godly perfect lawfull for the last second ends albeit the first cānot be attained The same argument is further confirmed by the testimonie of the reformed churches in Helvetia whose iudgement I think the patrones of the English desired presbyterie wil not easily reiect or cōdemne Their expres words are these domnanius ministros ineptos non instructos donis pastori necessarijs Interim agnos●omus quorundam in veteri ecclesia pastorum simplicitatem innocuam plus aliquando profuisse ecclisiae quam quorundam eruditionem variam exquisitam delicatamque sed paulo fastuo siorem Vnde ne hodie quidem reijcimus simplicitatem quorundam probam nec tamen omuino imperitam We condemne vnmeete Ministers which are not indewed with gifts necessarie for a shepeheard Howbeit we acknowledge that the harmelesse simplicitie of some shepheards in the olde Church did sometime more profit the Church then the great exquisite and delicate but a little to proud learning of some others Wherefore we reiect not now adayes the good simplicitie of certaine Ministers so that they be not altogether ignorant Loe the great learned men the maisters and rulers of the reformed Churches in Helvetia allow and approue as much as we desire The cass is cleere it cannot be denied The first Obiection Saint Paul commandeth expressely that euery Bishop or pastor should be able to teach and to conuince the gainsayers Ergo no mortal man can dispense with vnpreaching Ministers The Answere I answere first that if euery pastor must of necessitie be able to conuince the gainsayers so as otherwise he cānot be a lawfull pastor then doubtlesse must many of those who are of high esteeme with the fauourrs of the presbyterie be vtterly forsaken and deposed from their ministery Secondly that hospitalitie is required in a Minister euen as is his preaching and aptnesse to conuince And yet many pastors are allowed within the presbyterie which for all that can keepe no hospitalitie Thirdly that by Saint Pauls canons he is as vnlawfull a Pastor that is an angry Minister as he that cannot Preach For Saint Pauls wordes are as plaine for the one as they are for the other me orgilon not angrie But if all bee vnlawfull Pastors that be angrie howe can wee bee assured to finde any lawfull Pastors either in the presbyterie or else where Many other conditions doth Saint Paul require in pastors which will hardly be found in the elders of the Presbyterie The true sense and meaning of Saint Paules wordes is this and no other viz. that it is meete and conuenient that a Pastor of the Church haue those qualities and conditions which he reckoneth but withall he meaneth nothing lesse then that he is no lawfull Pastor which wanteth some of the saide conditions Yea the originall Greeke word doth confirme this mine exposition For deioun ton Episcopon doth onely signifie vnto vs that a Bishop or Priest should of congruitie and if it may be haue such conditions and qualities as the Apostle reckoneth vp to Titus and Timothy not that none can be true and lawfull pastors of the Church which are not indewed with all the aforenamed qualities No no the latin word oportet and the Greeke word dei haue no other sense and meaning but that it behooueth or that it is meete and conuenient not that it must of necessitie be so or else no lawfull ordination The second Obiection Christ sent his Disciples forth to preach the kingdome of God and to cure the sicke The Answere I answere that this was a speciall charge giuen onely to the Apostles and that it proueth as well that all Ministers must be curers of diseases as Preachers and conuincers of gainsayers The second Section of Preaching without licence and authoritie The patrons of the Presbyterie affirme those canons ordinances and constitutions to be vngodly wicked and plaine diabolicall which prohibite all Ministers to preach Gods word that are not lawfully licenced thereunto And they cry out against the most reuerend Fathers because they put som to silence whom they had licenced to preach in former times But I answere to these vnworthy complaints and vnchristian exclamations first that no man may take vpon him the ministerie but he onely that is lawfully called therunto Secondly that the Church to whom this authoritie is graunted may place and displace giue licence to preach and prohibite from preaching as it shall be thought most conuenient for the peaceable gouernment thereof and for edification of the people For this cause did King Salomon Depose Abiathar the high Priest and placed Sadock in his roome But doubtlesse he that hath power to displace the Minister which is a greater thing hath power a fortiori to suspend the Minister from execution or to prohibite him to Preach seeing that is a thing that requireth lesse authoritie Againe if the Church had not power to displace suspend and prohibite Ministers from Preaching as their demeanours and circumstances of times places and persons shall require then doubtlesse would the Church abound with schismes confusion and all ataxia contrarie to the Apostolike canon which prescribeth all things to be done decently and in order Yea I protest vnto the world that I deeme the prohibition of Preaching without licence to be one of the most necessary and profitable Canons that euer were ordained constituted and established by this our English Church For since euery man tooke vpon him to Preach at his owne pleasure and was permitted to doe it when and where he would lawfull authoritie hath binso impugned new-sangled conceits so vsuall vnsound doctrine so cōmō the text it self either scantly touched or so rawly vnclerkly handled that the auditors were as ignorant of the true meaning of
duo volumina legit ad aedificatitonem plebis non ad authoritatem Ecclesiasticorum dogmatum confirmandum As therefore the Church readeth the books of Iudith and of Tobye and of the Machabees but receyueth them not amongst the Canonicall Scriptures so doth it also reade these two volumes for edification of the people but not to confirme any Ecclesiasticall doctrine Saint Augustine is of the same opinion and deliuereth the matter in these expresse words Hanc Scripturam quae appellatur Machabaeorum non habent Iudaei sicut Legem Prophetas Psalmos quibus Dominus testimonium perhibet tanquam testibus suis dicens oportebat imp●eri omnia quae scripta sunt in Lege Prophetis in Psalmis de me Sed recepta est ab Ecclesia non invtiliter si sobrit legatur vel audiatur maxime propter illos Machabaeos qui pro Dei Lege sicut veri Martyres a persecutoribus tam indigna atque horrenda perpessi sunt The Scripture which is of the Machabees the Iewes repute not as they doe the Lawe and the Prophets and the Psalmes to which the Lord gaue testimonie as to his witnesses saying It behooued all things to be fulfilled which are written in the Lawe and in the Prophets and in the Psalmes of mee but the Church hath receiued it not without profite if it bee read or heard soberly especially for those Machabees who for the Lawe of God as true Martyrs suffred of their persecutors so vnworthy and horrible torments Saint Cyprian Saint Ambrose and other Fathers teache the same Doctrine and the continuall practise of the Churche in all ages doth yeelde a constant testimonie therevnto Nowe seeing the Churche of God hath thought it meete and profitable to haue the Apocryphall books read in the Church and seeing withall that Saint Austen Saint Hierome and other holy Fathers do commend the same I see no reason why a few young heads without gray beards whose authoritie is no waye comparable with the practise of the Church neither their reading experience and iudgement to bee equalized with the auncient holy Fathers should take vppon them so rashly to controll the Churche of England and to condemne her for following the practise of the Church in all ages Let these men weigh well with themselues what the holy most reuerend and learned Father Saint Austen saith to this and the like questions These are his expresse words In his n. rebus de quibus nihil certi statuit Scriptura Diuina mos populi Dei vel instituta maiorum pro lege tenenda sunt For in those things touching which the holie Scritpure hath left no certaine rule the custome of Gods people and the ordinances of our ancestours must be holden for a lawe Behold here gentle Reader a most excellent rule indeed giuen vs by this holie Father and great learned Doctor Which if they who this day impugne the governement of our English Church the Prownists and their ●●herents I euer meane would duely ponder and regarde they would doubtlesse surceasse to vexe and distourbe the peace of our Church and receyue the ordinances of their auncestours with all reuerence and humilitie For the Church of England doth make a flat separation in which it doth in plain and expresse tearms seuer deuide the Canonicall books from the Apocryphall so as no simple Reader can but perceyue and vnderstand the same And it is not to the purpose to obiect as some haue done that the Rubricke in the booke of common prayer calleth the Apocryphall bookes holy Scripture For first when the Rubrick saith the rest of the holie Scripture it may be vnderstood fitlie of the bookes Canonicall following especially seeing it nameth not the Apocryphal expressely but quoteth some of them afterwards Secondly the Apocrypha may truely and lawfully beecalled holie Scripture Analogicè though not Univocè that is to say the wrytings of holy men or bookes conteyning holie and good matter And in this sense speaketh the Rubrick as I iudge and sundry of the holie Fathers I am well assured doe so tearme the bookes Apocryphall Howsoeuer the Rubricke be expounded or wrested two things are apparant Th' one that the Rubricke doth not call them Canonicall scripture Th' other that the Church meaneth not to equalize them with the Canonicall books of holy writ I prooue it because shee hath plainely distinguished the one from the other and preferred the authoritie of the Canonicall Neyther will it serue their turne to say as some haue done viz. That nothing may be read in the Church but onely the Canonicall scriptures For first no text of holy writ doth so affirme and consequently the Church hath power to determine thereof as is alreadie prooued Secondlie the ancient councell of Uasco which was holden aboue one thousand and one hundreth yeares agoe decreed plainlie in their publique assembly that the Deacons should read the Homelies made by the holy Fathers These are the expresse words of the Councell Hoc etiam pro aedificatione omnium Ecclesiarum pro vtilitate totius populi nobis placuit vt non solum in Ciuitatibus sedetiam in omnibus parochijs verbum faciendi daremus Presbyteris Potestatem ua vt si presbyter aliqua infirmitate prohibente per seipsum non potuerit praedicare Sanctorum Patrum Homiliae a Diaconis recitentur Wee haue also decreed for the edification of all Churches and for the good of all the people that the Priests should bee licenced to preache and not in Cities onely but also in euery Parish Churche so that the Deacons may read the Homilies of the holy Fathers if the Priest cannot preache himselfe by reason of some infirmitie Thirdly it is voyde of all reason and farre from all Christianitie to affirme it vnlawfull to read testimonialls made to signifie the distresse of our honest Neighbours that thereby wee may bee styrred vppe to releeue them more bountifullie Yea if it be true that some haue written it is a lawe amongst them of the Presbyterie to haue their orders for gouerning the Church reade publicklie once euery quarter And I knowe Expropria scientia that some of them haue done more Well now-adayes euery vpstart yongling that can rawely pronounce some Texts of the holie Byble though hee but meanely conceyue the true sense will roundly take vpon him I warrant you to reuile our most Reuerend Fathers the Archbyshops Byshoppes and to controll the gouernement of our Churche as if hee had a Commission from Heauen to doe it If I should disclose what my selfe haue heard herein and how I haue beene saluted sometimes for speaking my minde in the defence of the Reuerend Fathers and of the Godly setled Lawes of this Church of England time would sooner faile mee then matter whereof to speake CHAP. XIIII Of certaine extrauagants very offensino to the Patrons of the Presbyterie The first member of Christs Baptisme and the circumstances thereof IT is sharply reprooued that
Saint Chrysostome in these golden wordes Neque ideo solum sed vt tu disceres quontam super te quoque cum Sacro Fonte dilueris Sanctus Spiritus veniat iam vero non visibils specie qua vtique non egemus cum nobis pro cunctis sola fides sufficiat Nam signa non credentibus sed incredulis dantur Neither did the Doue appeare onely for that end but that thou also mayst learne that the Holy Ghost commeth vpon thee when thou art washed in the holie Font bu that appearance is not nowe adayes in any visible shape whereof wee haue no neede seeing sole faith sufficeth for all For signes are not giuen to the faithfull but to the incredulous persons These things well pondered the obiection against the booke of Common prayer will bee to no purpose vnlesse perhaps it will bee a caueat for the Author which I heartilie wish to write and speake more circumspectly in time to come For I verily am perswaded that all things contayned in the booke of Common prayer are agreable to the holy Scriptures the practise of the Church in the purest times and composed with such Iudgement Pietie Learning and Religion that all the wisedome in the worlde is not able iustlie to controll the same In so much that I wonder and greatly admire the audacious temeritie of manie who being of small reading and learning and of no iudgment and experience if they bee compared to those auncient graue Godly wise and learned fathers that compiled the booke of common prayer dare presume to condemne the same with theyr bitter invectiues vntimely censures and vnchristianlike Anathematizations True it is that Saint Hierome saith Nec sibi blandiantur si de Scripturarum capitulis videntur sibi affirmare quod dicunt cum Diabolus de Scripturis aliqua sit locutus Scripturae non in legendo sed in intelligendo consistunt Neyther must they slatter themselues if they seeme in their owne conceits to prooue so much as they say seeing the Deuill himselfe alleadged Scripture against our Lord Iesus and the Scriptures doe not consist in bare reading but in true Sense and meaning Would God this graue aduise giuen by this holy auncient and learned Father might be a president and constant rule in this doleful age to all nouices superficiall diuines and young students in Diuinitie who more rashly then Clerklie take vpon them to controll not onelie our most Reuerend Fathers the graue wise and learned Byshops but euen the whole Synode assembled in the Conuocation house yea and the King himselfe to walke circumspectlie to liue obedientlie to think modestlie of their own gifts not to esteeme better of themselues and their iudgements then there is cause but to thinke that a learned Synode can see as farre as they and would as gladly goe to Heauen as they and consequently to ponder with themselues seriouslie that it is a too too malepeart saucinesse for young heads and superficiall Diuines of slender Iudgement and lesse reading of the holy Fathers auncient Councells and Ecclsiasticall hystories to censure and controll not onely the Godlie setled Lawes of our Christian Kingdome but euen of the continuall practise of the Churche in all ages I my selfe am about three score yeares of age I haue endeuoured by Prayer and painefull Studie to attayne good literature euer since I was fiue yeares of age I haue liued conuersed studied disputed in manie famous Vniuersities aswell in England as in forraine Countries I haue employed my whole care industry and diligence now for the space of thirty yeares and odde to vnderstand Gods word aright to know what hath bene the practize of Christes church in all former ages and for that ende and purpose I haue for the space of thirtie yeares and odde prouided all the auncient Fathers Councells Hystories Ecclesiasticall and Chronographycall so far forth as my abilitie was able to extend and reach and that nothing should be wanting in this behalf I haue borrowed bookes where I could and haue also had recourse to the best Libraryes both in the Vniuersities els where to the end I might gather notes out of such bookes as I was not able to buye and prouide In which behalfe not my selfe onely but all such as reape anie commoditie by my painfull labours are more then a little beholden to these most Reuerend Fathers Iohn the late Arch-byshoppe of Canterburie Richard now the L Arch-byshoppe of Canterburie and Tobye the L Bysh. of Durham who haue for themselues the good of others most excellent costly and goodly Libraries to which I haue found free accesse at all times when I desired All this beeing performed I haue verie seriouslie weighed pondered and considered what the Papists Arrians Macedonians Eutichians Nestorians Donatists Carpocratians Ebionites Tatians Manichees Brownists and other Sectaries doe and can say for their opinions and this notwithstanding I finde the Doctrine and the Godlie setled Lawes of this Church of England amongst which I place the late Canons of Anno. 1604. to bee consonant to Gods word to the vsuall practise of the Church in all former ages These things I vtter in these tearms because I heartilie wishe to perswade all such as are carefull of their saluation to yeeld obedience to higher Powers and not to bee carryed awaye with the Sugred words of superficiall Diuines but to learne that obedience is better then Sacrifice I am now likelie euen by the course of Nature shortly to forsake this worlde and therfore I doe not seeke any preferment for my paines which I neuer to this daye hunted after and much lesse doe I seek to draw men into errrours and so to make shipwracke of mine owne Soule No no my purpose God is my witnesse is farre otherwise as who am perswaded so fullie of the Doctrine which I deliuer that I am not affrayde to ende my life in the same The second member of certaine Rites and Ceremonies vsed in Baptisme New-fangled oddely conceited persons do scornfullie inueigh against interrogatories ministred at Baptisme against Godfathers Godmothers Fonts and otherlike Ceremonies as things vnknowen in the time of the Apostles To whome I answere in this manner First that manie things are this day lawfully done in the Church which were not in vse in the Apostles time This is already prooued Secondly that the custome of the Church in things indifferent is to be esteemed among Christians for a Law This is likewise prooued And let him that holdeth the contrarie opinion tell mee by what lawe hee can iustifie that formall coniunction of men and wemen in holy wedlock which is vsed not onely in our Church of England but also in purest reformed Churches euerie where Hee shall neuer bee able to alleadge any ground in that behalfe but the vnwritten traditions of the Church Of which traditions th' Apostle spoke as learned interpreters tell vs when he said he would set other things in
order at his comming Yea M. Caluin vpon that Text admitteth vnwrytten Traditions in things not necessarie to Saluation Thirdlie that Saint Austen Saint Ambrose and other auncient Fathers who liued in the pure ages of the Church make mention of Godfathers and Godmothers and of the interrogatories which our Church vseth in the Baptisme of infants Saint Austen beeing demaunded howe they that being an infant to baptisme are bolde to answere that hee beleeueth and so to all other demaundes seeing they dare promise nothing of his behauiour when hee commeth to mans state answereth in these expresse wordes Si. n. Sacramenta quandam similitudinem earumrerum quarum Sacramenta sunt non haberent omnino sacramenta non essent Ex hac autem similitudine plerunque etiam ipsarum rerum nomina 〈◊〉 Sicut ergo secundum quendam modum sacramentum corpor●s Christi corpus Christi est Sacramentum sangumis Christi sanguis Christi est ita sacramentum Fidei Fides 〈…〉 aliud credere quam fidem habere Ac 〈…〉 credere qui fidei nondum habet 〈…〉 habere propter fidei Sacramen●●● 〈…〉 propter conuersionis sacrament●● 〈…〉 Celebrationem pertinet Sacra 〈…〉 nondum fides illa quae 〈…〉 tamen ipsius fidei Sacra 〈…〉 facit Nam si●ut credere respondetur ita etiam 〈…〉 non 〈◊〉 annu●ndo sed ipsu● rei 〈…〉 For if Sacraments had not a certaine similitude of those things whereof they bee Sacraments they were no Sacraments at all And by reason of this similitude they are often called by the names of the things themselues As therefore after a certaine manner of speaking the Sacrament of the bodie of Christ and the Sacrament of the bloud of Christ are the bodie and bloud of Christ so the Sacrament of faith is faith Neyther is it any other thing to Beleeue then to haue Faith And therefore when answere is made that the infant beleeueth which as yet hath not faith in deed it is answered that hee beleeueth for the Sacrament of faith and that he doth conuert himselfe to God for the sacrament of conuersion because the answere it selfe perteyneth to the Celebration of the Sacrament Therefore although that faith which consisteth in the will of the beleeuers doth not make the childe faithfull yet doth the Sacrament of that Faith make him faithfull For euen as it is answered that hee doth beleeue so is hee also called faithfull not by signifying or graunting the thing it selfe in his minde but by receyuing the sacrament of the thing Thus writeth S. Austen that auncient learned Father out of whose words I obserue against rash heads young Diuines these most excellent instructions for the humble and Godly readers First that this holy learned father whose vertue and learning all the Christian world hath hitherto honored and admyred relyeth stayeth himself vpon the practise of the Church which nowe adayes euery proude Brownist and vnlearned Martinist contemneth at his pleasure Secondly that it was the custome of the Church in S. Aust. time which custome he reuerenced euen as it is this day in our Church of England to propound interrogatories to the suerties or Godfathers Godmothers in the behalfe of the childe as also they did lawfully and truely answere and promise as the manner is nowe in our Churche and that their answeres were to bee iustified by vertue of the Sacrament The first Obiection The suerties which you call Godfathers and Godmothers cannot performe that which they promise in the name of the child ergo it is a vaine and rediculous exercise The Answere I answere that the suerties are well able to performe all that they promise as who promise nothing absolutely but with a condition vsually vnderstood in all such kinde of promises viz if we liue if Gods will be so to the vtmost of our power and so forth And so much may be gathered out of the expresse words in the booke of common prayer The second Obiection Not the infants but the Godfathers and Godmothers are baptized and so rebaptization is admitted For not the child but they say I renounce the diuell that is my desire The Answere I answere first with the auncient father Areopagita in these words Non. n. hoc ait ego pro puero abrenuncio aut promitto sed puer abrenuntiat profitetur id est profiteor me huic puero suasurum cum intelligere sacra per aetatem poterit diuinis meis institutionibus vt nuntium remittat adversarijs atque ab eis deficiat profiteatur exolvatque diuina promissa Neither doth hee say this I renounce or promise for the child but the childe renounceth and professeth that is to say I promise so to instruct the child when he commeth to yeares of discretion with my godly instructions and exhortations he shall renounce all things aduerse professe and performe those heauenly promises which he maketh Secondly mwith Saint Austen in these words Miror sanè quod ita volueris vt de his quae varie per diversa loca observantur tibi aliqua conscriberem cum non sit necessarium vna in his saluberrima regula retinenda sit vt quae non sunt contra fidem neque contra bonos more 's habent aliquid ad exhortationem vitae melioris vbicunque institui videmus velinstituta cognoscimus non solum non improbemus sed etiam laudando imitando sectemur si aliquorum infirmit as non ita impedit vt amplius detrimentum sit I maruell why you would haue me write to you touching those things which are diuersely obserued in diuers places seeing that it is not necessarie that in these things we must hold this for a constant and sound rule that what things soeuer are neither against faith nor against good manners and are some helpe to the furtherance of honest life whersoeuer we see such things to be ordained we must be so far from reprouing them that wee must praise imitate the same vnlesse some weaklings bee so scandalized that hurt commeth thereupon Thirdly with the zealous and learned Writer maister Zuinglius in these expresse words Hic vero singulis videre li● cet quaenam sit contentiosi istius Satanae caliiditas qui huiusmodi rixis propter externa quaedam institutis papatui amplissimas fenestras denuò aperire voluit In huiusmodi vtique rebus Pauli Apostoli regula nobis obseruāda est 1. cor 14. sequitur quorū vsum administrationem in nostro arbitrio potestate sitam esse ait sic tamen ne quid cum dei instituto pugnans committamus ne pacem publicam cuius nobis praecipua cura esse debet propter externa haec interturbare libeat licet ergo vel hodie quoque paedobaptismun etiamsi hactenus in ecclesia vsurpatus non esset de novo instituere si aliquod inde commodum pacis concordiaeque frustus inde promanaret Here euery man may
him Loe S. Luke speaketh not in the preterperfect tense or preterplusperfect tense who hath or had bene one of the seauē Deacons but he saith in the present tense who is euen now one of the seauen For so the Originall Greeke word ontos must needs be expressed seing it is a participle of the present time or time euen now beeing And the holy Fathers together with the practise of the church haue euer so vnderstood this text of Scripture Saint Epiphanius deliuereth his minde in these plaine tearmes Omnes verò praeter ipsum susceperunt magnorum A. postolorum praesentians per impositionem manuum ipsorum acceperunt Spiritum sanctum Nam quum Philippus Diaconus esset non habebat potestatem imponendi manus vt per hoc daret Spiritum sanctum They all hee onely excepted receyued the presence of the mightie Apostles and by imposition of their hands they enioyed the holy Ghost For Philip being a Deacon onelie had not power to impose hands thereby to giue the holy Ghost S. Austen hath these expresse words Iterum multum distare inter Diaconum sacerdotem liber approbat quē dicimus actus Apostolorum Cumn ex Samaria credidissent Philippo praedicanti Diacono ab Apostolis ordinato miserunt inquit ad eos Petrum Ioannem vt venirent his qui creder●t darent spiritum sanctum per manus impositionem Again the booke which wee call the Acts of the Apostles prooueth that a Deacon differeth much from a Priest For when they of Samaria had beleeued the preaching of Philip the Deacon ordeined of th' Apostles they sent saith the booke Peter and Iohn vnto them that they might giue the holy Ghost by imposition of hands to those that did beleeue Thus wee see the iudgement of S. Epiphanius and S. Austen who both iointly affirme Philip to haue bene but a Deacon and yet to haue baptized and preached Yea Maister Gualter Maister Aretius and the Magaeburgenses doe all constanthe and vniformely contest the same truth with the auncient Fathers and continuall custome of the Church in all ages They write plainely that although Deacons were chieflie occupied about the dispensation of the churches goods yet did they employe their labours so far forth as they might in the other ministeries of the church The fourth member of Deacons promoted to Priesthood The Church of England is charged to doe against the word of God while shee vseth to make one and the same person first a Deacon and afterward a Priest To which calumnie I answere in briefe in this manner First that it is not against the word of God but very consonant and altogether agreable to the same For no Scripture can bee alleadged to prooue that a Deacon maye not become a Priest Maister Caluin affirmeth constantly that Philippe was first a Deacon and afterward an Euangelist Priest or pastorall elder Secondly that the church of England vsing the Deaconshippe as a steppe or degree vnto Priesthood doth nothing against the iudgement of the auncient Fathers but followeth the vsuall practise of the church in all ages The reason hereof is and euer was this viz. that there might be some time of try all of their behauiour in the Deaconshippe before they were or could bee admitted to the order of Priesthood No Councell no Father no hystorie Ecclesiasticall no time no place no person since the Apostolike age can be named to the contrary To the continuall practise of the Church from age to age th' Apostles words may sitly be applied when he saith the deacons that haue ministred well get themselues a good degree For sun 〈…〉 writer of high esteem in the church do 〈…〉 the word Degree a steppe vnto the 〈…〉 or Priesthood This notwithstanding it is not of necessitie that euery Deacon become a Priest by any canon or constitution of the church For his behauiour in the Deaconship may be such that the church will deeme him vnmeete to be preferred vnto Priesthood And therefore I conclude with these words of S. Hierome Et si scripturae authoritas non subesset totius orbis in hanc partē consensus instar praecepti obtineret Nā multa alia quae per traditionē in Ecclesijs obseruantur authoritatē sibi scriptae legis vsurpauerunt Although they were no authoritie in Holy Scripture yet should the consent of all the Christian worlde haue the force and strength of a law in this behalfe For many other things which the church obserueth by tradition are become equiualent to the written law Loe S. Hierome affirmeth boldly constantly as do also S. Augustine M. Caluin and others as I haue already prooued that the custome tradition of the church must bee in steede of a lawe vnto Christians Which euer is to be vnderstood in things not repugnant to the word of God or as M. Caluin speaketh which are neyther partes of doctrine nor necessarie to saluation The fyfth member of the generall confession made by priuate persons in the Church The Patrons of the expected Eldership or Presbyterie exclame against the booke of common prayer because it giueth libertie to the Laycall communicants to make a generall confession of their sinnes before the congregation then present as if therby the Laicall communicants should presently become publique ministers of the church To these men I answere in this manner first that they seeme to thēselues to be the onely wise men in the worlde to condemne all the rest of follie For otherwise they would not so roundly peremptorily take vpon themselues and that without either Scripture Councell or Father nay without all time or reason to controll condemne the book of publique praier which I verily think to haue bene composed by the assistance of the Holy Ghost consequently to condemne all the ancient Byshops those glorious martyrs of our Lord Iesus the most famous Byshop of Sarisburie the Iewell of England in his time the Byshops that now liue who are both wise vertuous learned all the residue of the learned Cleargie of this our English Church Secondly that by their grosse assertion ioyned with a most vnchristian reprehension the lowly Publican highly commended in the Gospell should bee made a Minister of the Church or haue intruded him himself into the function of publique Ministerie when hee knocked vppon his breast said O God be mercifull to me a sinner Thirdly that by the same reason the notorious sinners which were put to open penance in the primitiue Church and confessed their faults before the congregation should bee in the same predicament Fourthlie that publique penitents this daye who are for all that approoued of the Patrons of the Presbyterie should be caught in the same nette Fyftlie that the same may bee saide of Women singing Psalmes in the Church and that with more probabilitie who for all that are approoued in so doing not onely in this Church of England but
naturali euen by the light of nature for euery law is made for some end which end how often soeuer it may bee accomplished without the law so often the execution of the law is needeles Secondly wee must holde this for a constant foundation that albeit the ciuill Magistrate be commaunded to punish malefactors yet is neither the kinde of punishment nor the quantitie thereof taxed by the law of God but it still abideth indifferent to bee determined by the supreme ciuill Magistrate for as I haue alreadie proued although there were speciall punishment prescribed in the iudiciall law of Moses for transgressors of the Sabboth for adulterers for false witnesses for murderers theeues and such like yet neither by the Law morall nor by any Law in the New Testament to which lawes onely we Christians are this day bound is any such punishment determined therefore may the ciuill Magistrate if it so seeme good vnto him chaunge the vsuall punishment of theeues which with vs is to bee hanged and cause them to be cast into the sea with milstones about their neckes and the same may bee saide of the punishment for other malefactors Thirdly wee must repute this for an vndoubted foundation vz. that the end for which Gods Law appointeth malefactors to be punished is the publike peace and good of the whole common-weale for this is so euident by the course of the whole scripture as it can neither with learning nor reason bee denied Out of these three foundations thus firmely stablished these two Corrolaries may euidently bee inferred First that whensoeuer any member of the common weale committeth any capitall crime for which hee ought to die by the law whose life for all that is more profitable to the weale publike then his death in such a case the Prince may pardon such a malefactor not thereby sinne at all which thing christian Princes seeme to respect when in the time of warres they set such felons at libertie as are able to doe seruice in defence of the Realme Secondly that when any malefactor is so mightie or so strongly seated or otherwise so vnfit to bee dealt withall that the Prince cannot without probable daunger of his royal person or great domage to the common-weale punish the said malefactor then in such a case the prince may tollerate such a malefactor vnpunished and not thereby sinne at all These foundations and illations being once well vnderstoode and remembred the conclusion though of great moment cannot but be manifest and cleare Neuerthelesse I will adioyne some sound reasons hereunto for the better confirmation of the same The first reason It is a common and generally receiued Maxime aswell of all Ciuilians as Diuines vz. Lex non obligat vltra intentionem legis-latoris The law doth not bind a mā beyond the intention of the Law-maker Whereupon I inferre first that the ciuill magistrate may dispence with his owne Law Secondly that the Prince being Gods Minister may tollerate or pardon malefactors when and so often as such tolleration or pardoning tendeth to the common good of the publike-weale the reason is euident because the intention of God the supreme Law-maker was euen that and none other whē hee appointed his ministers to punish malefactors The obiection The Prince pardoneth many times when hee little regardeth the common good nay whē his pardoning doth great harme to the publike weale and Church of God The Answere I aunswere first that hee hath receiued his authoritie to profite the Church and common-weale and not to doe hurt vnto the same Secondly that it is sufficient to satisfie the consciences of subiectes who haue not to examine their Soueraignes secret affaires and to enquire what causes he hath to deale thus and so in matters of State that the Prince may in some cases vpon some causes either tollerate sin vnpunished or pardon malefactors If the case were otherwise euery subiect might soone take occasion to rebell If the Prince abuse his authority he must render an account to God for the same The second Reason Prodigalitie is a great sinne condemned aswell in Philosophie as in Diuinitie it neither will nor can bee denyed It is the exceeding extreame of the vertue liberal●tie This notwithstanding all Christian Kinges for ought that I can learne haue euer tolerated the same vnpunished at least in some degree neither were they for such tollerations reproued at any time by any ancient approued writer or learned Father whatsoeuer Which doubtles is ●nd ought to be so reputed an argument of no small importance For although Emporour Kinges and Monarches may and doe sinne aswell as others of meaner calling yet neither did they neyther euer can they liue vnreproued if at any time they sin notoriously either by stabilishing wicked lawes publikly or by suffering their subiects to make hauock o● Gods lawes dissolutely For God can raise vp children of stones to Abraham and neither is hee nor euer will hee be destitute of faithfull couragious seruāts who wil constantly and without all feare reproue all such as contemne his holy lawes He hath watchmen on the wals of his Ierusalem who will crie out against sin continually and neuer keepe silence day nor night He is not without his Elias that will stoutely reproue all wicked Achabs Hee hath in store a Daniel to condemne all naughtie Iudges and to acquit his faithfull Susannes Hee will finde a Prophet to exclame against idolatrie and to teach euery Ieroboam his dutie He can and wil prouide an other Iohn Baptist to speake boldely to all bloody Herods And yet in so many hundred yeares such tollerations haue neuer beene reprooued to my knowledge by any auncient Father or other learned VVriter The reason hereof I take to bee this because if this sinne were punished there woulde rather hurte then benefite insue therevppon The third reason It is a generall Maxime receiued not onely in Diuinitie but in Philosophie also Ex duobus malis minus eligendum Of two euils the lesser is to bee chosen that is to say when two euils concur so that both cannot be auoided but that necessarilie the one must happen then it is not onclie not sinne but godlie VVisedome and Christian Policie to preuent and auoide the greater euill with permission and tolleration of the lesse For example sake it is euill for a man to cutte off his owne arme or legge if the thing bee absolutely and simply considered in it selfe yet to cut it off least the whole bodie putrifie or perish is a very lawful act Which thing all Christian Princes Monarches seeme to respect when they in sundrie cases doe tollerate sinne vnpunished The blessed man Moses so highly renowned in holy writte pardoned great malefactors in the hainous crime of diuorce and this tolleration he graunted to auoide a greater euill that is to say least the Iewes vpon euery light cause should poyson those wiues whome