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A91309 Truth triumphing over falshood, antiquity over novelty. Or, The first part of a just and seasonable vindication of the undoubted ecclesiasticall iurisdiction, right, legislative, coercive power of Christian emperors, kings, magistrates, parliaments, in all matters of religion, church-government, discipline, ceremonies, manners: summoning of, presiding, moderating in councells, synods; and ratifying their canons, determinations, decrees: as likewise of lay-mens right both to sit and vote in councells; ... In refutation of Mr. Iohn Goodwins Innocencies Triumph: my deare brother Burtons Vindication of churches, commonly called Independent: and of all anti-monarchicall, anti-Parliamentall, anti-synodicall, and anarchicall paradoxes of papists, prelates, Anabaptists, Arminians, Socinians, Brownists, or Independents: whose old and new objections to the contrary, are here fully answered. / By William Prynne, of Lincolnes Inne, Esquire. Prynne, William, 1600-1669. 1645 (1645) Wing P4115; Thomason E259_1; ESTC R212479 202,789 171

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to the Kings of Judah to doe the least thing in point of Reformation but onely to see that the Priests doe all strictly according to the prescript rule of the Law 2 Chron. 31. Now was the great Law-giver so strict under the Old Testament and is hee growne over remisse under the New In Ezechiels vision of the Temple or Church under the Gospell Ezechiell 43. 10 11. Wee read of a patterne of every particular thing belonging to the House of God exactly set downe and measured by Gods speciall rule and direction Ergo There is a most exact rule set down for the Government of all Churches under the Gospell in all particulars even to a Pin from which they must not vary in the least point or title Else a sluce would be opened to drowne the whole world in supestition and error I have elsewhere given a full answer to this common objection and manifested the absurdity of it to which my Brother hath not given the least reply and because much insisted on I shall once againe answer it here with some additions My Brothers first Argument from the premises if turned into a logicall forme is this God in the Old Testament shewed and prescribed to Moses in the Mount an exact patterne of the Tabernacle and its implements from which hee must not vary in one Pin or Title Ergo He hath prescribed an exact uniforme universall modell of Church-Government and Discipline under the Gospell for all Churches Nations Ages whatsoever from which they must not vary in the least Pin or Title What an Independent argument this is will appeare First by considering that the Tabernacle as all well know was no part of the Congregation or living Church of the Israelites made up onely of Circumcised persons of which our present controversie concerning Church-Government is meant but only the place wherein the Israelites met to Worship God during their Pilgrimage in the Wildernesse which Tabernacle ceased when the Temple was built and the Arke placed therein it being in truth nought else but a materiall moveable Temple answerable to our Churches Chappell 's and places of publike meeting for Gods Worship now but only in its moveablenesse The like may be said of Salomons materiall Temple what Argument can then be deduced thence to prove such an exact forme of Church Government setled under the Gospell as is objected I can not conjecture Brother I beseech you tell me in good earnest what you think of these following Arguments which may be retorted on you from this patterne with far more probability and reason then this objected First God in the old Testament prescribed the height length breadth compasse form and materials of which the Tabernacle Arke Altar Curtaines Candlesticks Sockets Rings Staves and every pin vessell utensill belonging to the Tabernacle should be made and expressed the same most punctually in writing commanding Moses to make all of them according to the patterne shewed him and not to vary in one Pinne as you may read Exod. cap. 25. to c. 40. Ergo Christ in the New-Testament hath a punctually prescribed to all Christians nations in as direct words the expresse form matter dimensions portraiture of all Christian Churches Temples Chappell 's and all Tables Chalices Pulpits Pues with other Appurtenances to them belonging from which they must not vary in one pin or title Secondly God in the Old Testament appointed particularly and by name who should build the Tabernacle and make all the Implements sur●ure there belonging and appointed by name B●zaliel and Aholiah to be the chiefe workmen And every wisehearted man and cunning Artificer imployed in this building this Architecture whom God himselfe endued with speciall skill wisdome and ability for this work not any Priest or Levite Exod. 31. 1. to 10. chap. 35 30. to 31. c. 36. 1. 2 3. c. c. 37. to 40. Ergo none but those Artificers whom God doth immediately name and endow with extraordinary gifts from Heaven None but Embroyderers Gold-Smiths Carpenters Ioyners Carvers Masons not Ministers Presbyters Deacons or Evangelicall Pastors must under the Gospell build up the spirituall Churches of Christ and settle the true Government and Discipline thereof Thirdly The very frame fashion Colour and materialls of the holy Garments which Aron and his Sons should weare when they came to minister before the Lord were expresly set downe and the use of them enjoyned under paine of death in the Old Testament and were a part of the patterne shewed to MOSES in the Mount from which hee might not vary in one Pin or Title Exodus c. 28. and 29. and 39. and 40. Ergo The very forme fashion matter and coulour of all Ministers Elders Deacons Garments in which they should minister is as punctually prescribed and limited under like penalties in the Gospell from which they must not vary Fourthly The Tabernacle and Temple too under the Law were made and built by the hands of men and were onely corporall not spirituall buildings in the spirits of men Ergo the Church under the Gospell is such to And then what will becom of your strange determinations p. 49. 50. That the Church is a spirituall house whose ONLY BUILDER is Christ and NOT MAN c. Fourthly This patterne in the Mount was shewed and delivered by god only to Moses the Temporall Magistrate not to Aaron or the Priests and he was to make and see all things made according to this patterne without the least variation by the helpe of Bezaliel and other lay-Artificers Ergo the framing setling of Church-government Discipline under the Gospell belongs wholly or principally to the supreame temporall Majestrates and to such Lay Artificers as they shall please to take to their assistance Not to Bishops Presbyters Ministers or any Ecclesiasticall persons Brother If you grant all these foure Arguments absurd false or incoherent as I presume you will then by the selfe same reason your owne Argument must much more be so And therefore I beseech you now at last to consider on what false sandy ground and absurd Inconsequencies your Independent Churches are built Secondly I pray inform me Brother if you are able If there be such an exact apparent unalterable forme of Church-government prescribed under the Gospell as there was of the Tabernacle Altar Temple in the Old in all particulars why the one is not as clearely and punctually set downe without any obscurity in the New Testament as the other is in the Old If you can shew us any such unalterable forme intirely delineated all together in precise direct termes in the one as we can shew you to in the other the controversie would bee ended without more dispute But since this cannot bee done and your selfe confesse in your Margin p. 6. which contradicts and subverts your Text We doe not say the same things are prescribed under the Gospell NOR DOTH IT COME TO SUCH CIRCUMSTANTIALS but we say and I say so to what it prescribeth ●s to
Elders Members Ordinances Prayers preaching Sacraments reading of the Word maintenance and the like of its owne within it selfe yetso as not simply to exclude all others from preaching or communicating with them when there is occasion and in this regard the definition of a Church given in out Homilies and by others That it is a company of men outwardly professing the faith of Christ wherein the Word of God is syncerely preached and the Sacraments duly administred belongs unto it But yet it followes not hereupon that it is either an absolute or Independent Church or a compleate body in all respects exempt from all superior jurisdiction but a dependent subordinate Congregation and a meere Member in respect of the Nationall Provinciall or Catholike Church For as every private person familie Corpotion Society City considered in themselves are compleate perfect men bodies Societies c. but in relation to the Families Kingdoms Cities Republikes wherin they are meete dependent subordinate parts Members of the whole common body to whose just Laws commands they are all equally subject or as every particular persons families or corporations interests in their owne persons liberties lands estates Children servants is good and absolute against all other private persons or corporations who have no power to deprive them of them but yet subordinate to the publike interest and power of the whole kingdom Pa●●ia who may command or dispose of them upon all just occasions for the safety and service of that common bodywhere of they are all Members which may give Laws of common right to all and deprive them of all private interests priviledges for the publike good Salus popul● being Suprema lex to which all Privadoes must submit So it is with every particular Christian Congregation As a private Christian or Church they have a private compleatnesse absolutenesse and Ordinances within themselves of which no other particular Christian or Church can deprive them not judicially question them for But yet this private Christian as a Member of a Congregation and this particular Congregation as a Member of the Nationall and Catholik Church of Christ are neither absolute not independent but subordinate to the other Churches Synodically assembled to the supreame Councell of Parliament the representative Church and State of England who may prescribe Laws unto them and to the Civil Magistrate who may both censure correct them to For example if any particular Congregation or any Pastor or Member of it shall abuse or exceed their private power to the oppression of any of the●● owne Members or injury of their neighbour Churches as by separating from their communion without just cause erecting a new private forme of Church-Government or Discipline in opposition to other Churches of the same or other Realms without publike authority to the engendring of schi●mes or broach any hereticall seditious Erronious Doctrines as some now do set up Idolatry supersition innovations or falfe worship abuse or prophane the Sacraments become licencious vitious or scandalous in their lives injure their owne Members without giving them satisfaction or reliefe entertaine all sorts of Sectaries deny communion in Sacraments or other Ordinances with the Members of their neighbour Churches who desire it upon just occasions debarre any of their Members from the Lords Supper or their Children from Baptisme without just cause be unable to resolve doubts and controversies in Religion betweene Minister and people or Members or to judge of doubtfull cases Vsu●pe more power then is meet to the impeaching of the Magistrates Authority wants meanes to raise monyes to provide an able Minister or defray their necessary Church expences or invades the Rights of other Neighbour Churches or refuseth obedience to such publike Ecclesiassticall Lawes which tend to the peace and unity of the whole Nationall Church In all these cases and others which concerne the Nationall or whol Catholike Church in general or other neighbouring Churches in particular no particular Church is an absolute or Independent body of it self but only a subordinate Member Subject to the Lawes Ordinances Determinations censures of the whole Church of that Nation combined in Parliament and to Nationall Provinciall Synods and Presbyteries established by common consent in Parliament as well as every Member of a Family City Society Kingdom Army or Realm is subordinate to the whol Family City Army Realm which no reasonable creature or Consciencious person can or dares deny Secondly I answer That this very argument is a most dangerous seditious Par●dox destructive to all Republikes and Societies of men A Cockatrice fit to be crushed in the shell ere it prove a devouring Serpent to Church and State as you may discerne by these instances in my Brothers way of arguing For may not any Independent Company 〈◊〉 Regiment or Brigade in our Armies argue just in this very straine Every Company Troop Regiment Brigade is a compleate body of it selfe having an its owne necessary Officers and Commanders Therefore we will not joyne with or submit to the commands Orders Military Lawes or directions of my Lord Generall the councell of Warre or any superior Officer but bee ruled commanded only by our selves and and the Parliaments own immediate commands to which we are onely subject Any Independent Family Streete parish Company or Ward only in the City argue thus we are an absolute compleate body family street parish company Ward within our selves Therefore we will not wee may not be governed directed commanded or censured by my Lord Major the Court of Aldermen or Common Councell but only by and within our selves Any Independent child servant Wife or Member of any such Congregation alleage I am an absolute Man Woman Christian of my selfe Therefore I may not I will not be commanded governed overruled obliged corrected by my Parents Master Husband or that Congregation of which I am a Member but only by my selfe Any independent County City Committee or Court of Justice argue Wee are a compleate County City Committee Court in and of our selves Ergo Wee neither will nor must submit to any Lawes or Ordinances of the high Court of Parliament Yea every Colledge in our Vniversities dispute thus We are a compleate Colledge and corporation within our selves Ergo the Chancellor Vicechancellor Convocation Congregation and whole Vniversity have no Authority to controle judge or order us Brother if such Arguments as these should be once admitted as they now begin to grow very rise in all places I referre to your saddest thoughts what will become of all our Armies Parishes Cities Churches Families Parliaments Kingdome in a short space Will they not all be dissipated dissolved in a moment and nought but a Chaos of confusion disobedience Schisme Anarchy and disorder cover their faces I beseech you therefore consider and retract this new monstrous Logick and Divinity which cuts in sunder all relations and subverts the very pillars foundations of all Government Order Peace Vnity both in Church and State But my Brother Objects 3.
civill Magistrates as you have plentifully done even with some colour of reason as well as insanire cum ratione which is all I shall answer to your reasons Fourthly Hee writes Let Master Prynne Or any other evict mee of any wilfull or unwilfull violation of the priviledges of Parliament and I shall bee as willing as willingnesse it selfe can make me to further such a conviction and no man shall be more ready then I to crave their pardon or undergoe their Justice nay I shall repent my selfe and abhor my errour in dust and ashes Certainely this your promised late Repentance which is yet contingent and improbable after so many publike offronts and oppositions against the power and proceedings of Parliament will bee a very poore recompence and satisfaction for all your former misdemeanors and scandalls to the Parliament yet late repentance being better then none at all I shall now challenge you to make good this your promise since your owne Conscience and judgment cannot but informe you I have written enough in the former Sections to evict and convince you and all the world besides that you have not only violated but denyed oppugned those priviledges of Parliament in Ecclesiasticall affaires which our owne Parliaments in all ages and Parliamentary Assemblies in all other Kingdomes have unquestionably exercised enjoyed without any such publique opposition as you have made against them And if you now make not good your promise few or none will ever credit you hereafter 5ly For the Authors you cite to justifie yourselfe they are miserably wrested and mistaken for the most part The first you quote is Master Edwards who maintaines point blancke against you throughout his Treatise a Legislative and coerceive power in Parliaments and civil Majestrates even in Church-affaires and matters of Religion in the very pages you quote and else where Therefore you palpably abuse the Author and Reader in quoting him to the contrary who is so point-blancke against you For the passage you quote out of his Page 256. The Parliament interposeth no Authority to determine what government shall be whence you inferre p. 7. Therefore his opinion appeares to be either that the Parliament hath No authority or at least intends not to make use of it in determining a government It was written only with reference to that present time the Parliament having at that time when he writ during the Assemblies debate and consultation interposed no Authority to determine what government shall be yet before that it had declared the old prelaticall Lordly government to be abolished and called an Assembly to advise with about a New But to inferre from thence as you doe Therefore his opinion is either that the Parliament hath no Authority or at least intends not to make use of it in determining a Government Is an inference quite contrary to the next ensuing words and pages to the whole scope of the Authors Booke Humbly submitted to the Honourable houses of Parliament contrary to his expresse words p. 138. 281. to all his reasons against Toleration of your Way and to the Parliaments intent in calling the Assembly to assist them in determining and setling a Church-government agreable to Gods word Be ashamed therefore of this grosse perversion of your first Authors passages diametrally contrary to this meaning Your Passages out of Master Hayward Bishop Iewell Master Fox Mr. Calvin Iacobus Acontius Junius Peter Martyr and Gulielmus Appolonius make nothing at all against the Legislative Authority of Parliaments in matters of Religion and Church government and have no a●●inity with your Passages words most of them Bishop Iewel especially as I have already proved vindicating propugning the very ecclesiastical power of Parliaments which you oppugne Indeed some of their words seeme to diminish the Coercive power of Majestrat●s enforcing of mens consciences in matters of Religion which I shal answer in due place and manifest how you abuse the Authors herein as well as Mr. Edwards not hitherto answered by any of your party but how they militat against the jurisdiction of Parliaments in making Lawes touching Religion discipline and Church-government I am yet to seeke For the Passages he aleageth out of the Divines of Scotland That the Prince or Majestrate may not make or publish any Ecclesiasticall Law without the free assent of the Clergy c. That he may not by HIMSELFE define or direct such matters nor make any Lawes therein That the King hath not a Nomotheticke Legislative Power in matters ecclesiasticall in a constitute Church That the ordinary power of the King is not to make Ecclesiasticall Lawes c. I Answer 1. That their only meaning if I mistake not in these passages is that the Prince or chiefe civill Majestrate of HIMSELFE without a Parliament or without the assistance and consent of his Nobles Commons Clergy cannot legally make any ecclesiasticall Lawes to obliege his people upon which reason our Brethren of Scotl. rejected the late New service booke and Canons and our selves the late Canons c Oath which Canterbury wold have obtruded on us because they were made and prescribed only by the Kings Authority and the Prelates or Convocations not the Parliaments upon which very reason the Parliaments of both Kingdomes have respectively adjudged both one and other illegall But that the King or supreame temporall Majestrates assisted by a Parliament and Orthdox Divines may not make binding ecclesiasticall Lawes or that their or our Parliaments have not a reall Legislative power in any matters ecclesiastike the only point controversed is directly contrary both to the constant Doctrine and Practise of our Brethren and their Church used ever since the Reformation to the proceedings of their last Parliaments and generall Assemblies as I have formerly manifested You may therefore blush at this your perverting of their meaning as if they held that the Parliaments of England or Scotland had no power to make Ecclesiasticall Lawes for Religion or Church gouernment when as their Bookes Actions addresses to our present Parliament their presence assistance in our Assembly proclaimes the contrary And the very publique Confession of faith professed and subscribed in their Church Anno 1560 Chap. 14 since confirmed by severall Acts of Parliament doth the like But admit all those Authors really as not one of them is in verity opposite to the Ecclesiasticall Jurisdiction and Legislative power of Parliaments yet the unanimous practise and resolution of all Christian Realmes Synods Parliaments in all ages contrary to their private novell opinions is sufficient infinitly to overbalance them in the Judgements of all prudent men And thus much for Mr. Goodwins Innocencies tryumph as to the present point I shall next apply my selfe to Answer such Objections as my deare Brother Master Henry Burton hath lately made against the premises in his Vindication to my 12. Queeres touching Church-Government my Independency examined His first and principall Objection is this
keeping the Commandements of the first and second Table the advancement of Gods Honour and Service the propagation of the Gospell the peace and well ordering of the Church State Family the performance of the externall publike or private exercises of Religion Or to avoyd scandalls Schismes Errors Innovations Corruptions in the Church or to bring men to the Ordinances and knowledge of the truth doe of themselves binde the Conscience at least in generall because they tend to the observation of the morall Law which wee are bound in Conscience to obey That particular civill and Ecclesiasticall Laws wherby the temporall Law givers not only signifie what is to be done but likewise seriously intend to command it and to obliege the infringers to an offence doe in particular and by themselves bind the Conscience under paine of sin and offence of God That other particular Lawes may bind the Conscience though not of themselves in regard of the thing commanded yet by accident when by their violation the Order Peace or government of the Church or State is disturbed the authority of the Law-givers and Magistrates dispised or just scandall given to the Church State or any weake brethren The Arguments to prove these positions follow 1. Those Laws to which men must be obedient and subject even for Conscience sake and that by Gods own command must necessarily binde the Concience But to such Ecclesiasticall and Civill Lawes as are sore-specified men must bee obedient and subject not only for wrath but even for Conscience sake Rom. 13. 1 2 5. Therefore they must necessarily binde the Conscience 2. Those Lawes whose violation drawes both a temporall and spirituall offence guilt and condemnation upon the infringers of them must needs obliege the conscience because conscience is sensible of the offence or sinne committed and dreads the punishment of it But the violating of such humane Laws as are forementioned drawes both a temporall and Civill Offence Guilt and judgment upon men as the Apostle yea every mans Conscience and experience determines Ergo they binde the Conscience Those Lawes and Ordinances which God Himselfe enjoynes us to obey even for the Lords sake must of necessity bind the Conscience to ready obedience because God Himselfe the Soveraigne and supreame Lord of the Conscience commands us to obey them But God Himselfe enjoynes us to obey the foresaid Lawes and Ordinances of men even for the Lords sake Romans 13. 1 3 5. 1 Pet. 2. 14 15 16. Ergo they bind the Conscience 4. Every Supreame Power Lawgiver Magistrate in commanding such things and making such Laws as aforesaid is but Gods owne Deputy Ordinance Minister Vicegerent in obeying whom wee obey and in contemning whose Edicts we contemne even God Himselfe from whom they derive their Authority Rom. 13. 1 2. 1 Pet. 2. 14 15 16. Ephes 6. 5 6 7. Col. 3. 22 23 24. Therefore their just Laws must needs oblige the Conscience as being in some sence the very Ordinances and Lawes of God Himselfe according to that resolution of Saint Bernard Sive Deus sive homo Vicarius Dei mandatum quodcunque tradiderit pari profecto obsequendum est cura pari reverentia deferendum ubi tamen Deo contraria non praecipit homo Which Augustine thus seconds In eare sola filius non debet obedire Patri suo si aliquod Pater ipsius jusserit contra Dominum Deum ipsius Ubi enim hoc jubet Pater quod contra Dominum non sit sic audiendus est quomodo Deus quia obedire Patri jussit Deus which he proves by Gods blessing of the RECABITES for obeying their Fathers command in not drinking Wine Jer. 25. Vpon this very ground Wives are commanded to submit themselves to their owne Husbands as UNTO THE LORD To bee subject to them in every thing as the Church is to Christ Eph. 5. 22 24. Col. 3. 8. Servants are commanded to bee obedient to their Masters according to the flesh with feare and trembling and singlenesse of heart as unto Christ Not with eye service as men pleasers but as the servants of Christ doing the will of God from the heart with good will doing service as Vnto the Lord not to men knowing that whatsoever good thing any man doth he shall receive from the Lord for YEE SERVE herein THE LORD CHRIST If servants in obeying their Masters Children their Parents Wives their Husbands lawfull commands serve and obey the Lord Christ Himselfe as the Scripture positively resolves then Christian subjects and Churches in obeying the lawfull Ecclesiasticall or Civill Lawes of their Princes and Parliaments obey and serve Christ Himselfe therein and so doe they who enact them and not commit the highest presumption that can bee against the most Highest as my Brother objects without any authority but with his Ipse dixi Fifthly Paul did endeavour and exercise himselfe to keepe a good Conscience alwayes both towards God and Man by obeying the just Laws and commands of man as well as of God as some Interprets expound it Acts 24. 16. Yea Peter commands servants to be subject to their Masters with all feare not only to the good and gentle but also to the froward and even for CONSCIENCE TOWARDS GOOD to endure griefe and suffer wrongfully from them and by the 1 Peter 3. 16. We are injoyned to have a GOOD CONSCIENCE Towards men who speake evill of us Whence thus I argue If a good Conscience must bee carefully exercised and kept as well toward the lawfull precepts and lawes of Man as of God then certainly they binde the Conscience as well as the Law of God else what had conscience to do with them But the supposition is most evident by the former texts Therefore the deduction thence Sixthly If such Lawes should not bind the conscience and inward man to the cheerfull practicall obedience of them but only the purse and outward man the obedience to them would bee lame or slavish the Lawes Nugatory and contemptible the end of the Laws which is cheerefull obedence to them for the advancement of Gods glory and the publike good of Church and State frustrated and the contempt of them no sinne at all against the fifth Commandement and the precepts of obedience to the higher Powers Magistrates and Rulers over us as all Expositors on the 5th Commandement resolve it is 7. The violating of such just Civill and Ecclesiasticall Lawes as these will cause violating whereof a tender true in lightned conscience will checke a man for and accuse him as guilty of an offence Therefore They must certainely oblige the Conscience else it would not checke at such a violation and acquit and cheere a man in case of ready Obedience as every mans experience can attest if hee narrowly watch his conscience in case it be not feared Eighthly Disobedience to the just edicts Lawes of Magistrates Governours Parents Naturall Civill or Ecclesiasticall are particularly branded both
no collections when I come and the very words import Therefore it can be no president for an ordinary constant unalterable universall Church-government and discipline established in all Churches 5ly Which takes of all and turnes its edg against my Brother It is must be confessed that this is no binding precept nor president in point of collections themselves much lesse then in other things For 〈◊〉 demand of my Brother 1. Whether this text did simply bind all the Corinthians to a weekely preparatory contribution towards the poore Brethrens necessities that were in Jerusalem so as they might not deny or vary from it it being rather a bare advise then a peremptory precept a meere voluntary charitable action as is cleare by comparing it with Act. 13 28. 29. 30. Rom. 15. 25. 26. 2 Cor. 8. 9. 1. to 15. especially v. 7. Every man according as he hath purposed in his heart so let him give not grudgingly as of necessity for God loveth a cheareful giver 2. Whether they were necessarily tied to make privat contributions only on the first day of the week no other or had they not a liberty notwithstanding this order to do it on any other week day as wel as on the first or every day or every fortnight or 10. dayes if they pleased as their particular occasions and conditions administred abillity or opportunity for such a charitable worke 3ly Whether this prescript forme of collection admitting it obligatory during this occasion did bind any Church but this of Corinth and those of Galatia only or whether it obliged all other Churches then or simply binds all Churches now to this forme of preparatory or privat contributions or not If you say no then you yeeld the cause since this president binds no Churches now to any punctuall imitation Therefore it is no proofe at all for any one divine universall unvariable forme of Church-government and discipline in all ages prescribed by Scripture If you say yea then all Christians Congregations in the world your Independent to offend against this the Apostles divine institution in not retaining this form of privat collections by segregating something for the use of the poore Sai●ts on every Lords day or weekly in suffering publique gatherings for the poore in Churches on Lecture dayes or week-day fasts whereas these were no such collections but only laying somthing up in private by way of preparatory Charity against the Apostles comming who would then receive every mans particular Charity by itselfe and not trouble them with any publike collections In one word No Churches nor Independent Congregations hold themselves strictly obliged to this forme of collection which was not publique but private every man by himselfe but all hould they may with safe conscience vary from it Therefore if this collection be a part of Church-government or Discipline under the Gospell as you make it this Government Disciplin is both mutable and arbitrable in this particular and so by consequence in others to as occasions and conditions of the Church do vary Your third Text of Acts 14. 23. When they had ordained them Elders in every Church proves nothing for what you alledge it For first it extends not to all Churches then planted in the World but onely to every Church in Derbie Lystra Iconium Antioch to which every Church relates as is cleare by comparing it with the three preceding and following verses whence the Argument from this Text can be but this The Apostles ordained Elders in every Church at Derbe Lystra Iconium and Antioch and so in every City in Creete Tit. 1. 5. Ergo in all Churches throughout the world Which is no infallible inference They might do it in all or most Cities where the Congregations were great yet not in Villages or lesser places where the number of Beleevers was but small Secondly This proues there were Elders ordained by the Apostles in many if not most Churches But yet it concludes not infallibly that there must of necessity bee Elders ordained by those who are no Apostles in all Churches There were such Elders then Ergo there must of necessity be such now in every Church unlesse there be a direct precept enjoyning them for perpetuity is no infallible Argument Thirdly Admit it generall and binding unto all yet this proves onely that there ought by Apostolicall president and institution to be Elders not one but more in all Churches what then becomes of some of your Independent Churches which have none as Master Simsons had none in Holland and as no new Independent Churches in or about London had when they were first gathered These certainly were no true Churches of Christ by this rule because they wanted Elders Fourthly This Text speakes onely in the generall that they ordained Elders in every Church But what sort of Elders they were Ruling or Preaching Elders onely or such who did both Rule and Preach or in what manner they were ordained whether by lifting up of hands onely to chuse them and no more or by laying hands upon them or by the Apostles owne imposition of hands only as Apostles or joyning with others as ordinary Ministers or in any other form is not expressed So that this Text onely informes us that there were Elders ordained in every Church but determines nothing of their office or in what manner or form they were ordained Therefore it concludes nothing for any exact compleat unalterable universall forme of Church-government in all particulars prescribed to all Churches ordaining of Elders being onely one part of Church-government not the whol no part of Discipline that left very indefinitely in respect of the manner and forme which the Scripture hath not by any direct precept or president reduced to an unalterable certainty but rather left Arbitrary and indefinite as will appeare by comparing Num. 8. 10. Acts 1 23. 24. 25. 26. c. 6. 5. 6. c. 14. 23. 1 Cor. 4. 14. c. 5. 17. 22. 2 Tim. 1. 6. 1 Tim. 4. 14. Tit. 1. 5. It being a great Controversie at this day whether imposition of hands be now simply necessary in the ordination of Presbyters Deacons or Lay-Elders or whether it be but an arbitrary ceremony which may be omitted without prejudice if there be cause whether it belonged to the Apostles onely as Apostles or as Presbyters whether it be appropriated to Preaching Elders onely as such or to ruling Elders as well as they or to the whol Church or Congregation and such as they shall appoint Or to Arch-bishops and Bishops only as such as many held of late though now that question is out of date So as neither of these Texts in severall nor any nor all three of them conjoyned prove any such conclusion or universall set forme of Church-government and Discipline for all Churches as is pretended My Brothers 4. Objection is The every particular Congregation is a compleate intire absolute spirituall Republike Corporation Body and City of God of it self
then if they will not bee reclaimed Fiat Iustitia better some should suffer than all perish My onely desire is that Your Honours would have a speciall jealous care of preserving your owne undoubted Parliamentary Rights and Priviledges against these unparalleld publike Violations Impeachments of them and of the tranquility safety of our Church and State endangered by them Toward the just defence whereof I have with as much expedition as my many other distracting publike and private Imployments would permit contributed these my indigested Nocturnall Lucubrations borrowed from the houres allotted to my necessary naturall rest in Vindication of the ancient and undoubted Ecclesiasticall Power and Iurisdiction of Parliaments Christian Princes and Magistrates which I have made good by sundry Divine Historicall Presidents and Authorities in all Ages and answered all the chiefe Pretences Objections of Papists Prelates Independents Anabaptists Separatists and all others who oppugne them in such a manner as I hope will silence them for the present and reforme them for the future It was my primitive intention and desire to have published this Treatise complete at first but it swelling to a greater bulk than I expected and my engagements in other publike services for the Common-weale retarding my speedy progresse herein I have thereupon divided it into two Parts the First whereof I here humbly tender to your Honourable Patronage till God and oportunity enable mee to complete the Second of which there is lesse Necessity since learned Mr. Samuel Rutherford in his Due right of Presbyteries and Mr. Thomas Edwards in his Anti-Apologia neither of them hitherto Answered by the Independents and in truth unanswerable with Gulielmus Apollonius and the Wallacrian Ministers Consideratio Quarundam Controversiarum c. quae in Angliae Regno hodie agitantur newly published will supply the present defect thereof and this First Part supply some particulars concerning the Ecclesiasticall Power of Parliaments Christian Princes Magistrates Councells which are wanting in them and in laborious Sir Edward Cookes Fourth Institutes who hath recorded little or nothing concerning the Jurisdiction or Power of Parliaments in Ecclesiasticall affaires and matters of Religion Thus humbly submitting these my distracted subitane Collections and Lucubrations to Your Honourable favourable Acceptation and imploring the God of Verity of Unity speedily to dissipate all our Errors and comprimise all our unhappy Divisions which threaten ruine to us if continued by Your most Religious Care Wisedome and indefatigable Endeavours that so wee may bee all like minded one towards another and may with ONE MIND and ONE MOVTH in one Way one Congregation glorifie God even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ I shall with my ferventest Orisons daily recommend Your Honourable Assembly with all Your pious Endeavours for the Reforming Setling of our Church State to his Divine Benediction and ever rest Your Honours most humble devoted Servant William Prynne To the Reader CHristian Reader I here present thee with Truth Triumphing over Falshood Antiquity over Novelty to settle both thy Judgement and Practice in these unsetled times wherein the very Foundations of Parliaments States Churches Government are shaken and subverted by some of our owne dear Friends from whom wee least expected it For my part I take no pleasure in detecting my Brethrens nakednesse Errors Over-sights nor in disparaging their Worth or Writings yet I must needs acquaint thee for thine owne good to preserve thee from seducement with some materiall Observations touching their Independent Treatises for which thou maist chance to give me thanks First That they all generally take that for granted which they should prove and demonstrate to us viz. That there is an exact and most absolute forme of Church-Government prescribed to all Churches in the Scripture from which no man must vary in the least title And that the Independent Way it is and no other But when wee demand of them how they prove it or what that Way Government and Discipline is they contend for or in what plaine Scripture Texts they find it instituted and universally prescribed to all Nations Churches or how they make good all their transcendent Encomiums of their New Way wee find them altogether silent or unsatisfactory telling us onely a large story of the Patterne of the Tabernacle shewed to Moses in the Mount of the exact forme of the Temple shewed to David by the Spirit and of Ezekiels vision and his and the Angels measuring of the Temple Which are nothing to the point and meere impertinencies fit to delude the ignorant injudicious vulgar who take their weake inferences thence for divine Oracles Secondly That they are extraordinary bold confident peremptory copious in their affirmations and positions concerning their Way but very poore lame impotent deficient in their proofes thereof You must take their bare Assertions for undeniable Arguments Proofes Thirdly That their whole Independent Fabricke is built either upon false Principles As that every Church is a complete absolute independent body of it selfe subject onely unto Christ That no humane Power upon earth hath any Right or Authority to prescribe any Rules or Orders to any particular Congregation That just humane Lawes binde not the Conscience in point of obedience and the like Or else upon false or absurd Inferences from true Principles As that Christ is the King Lord Head and Law-giver of his Church Ergo No man or humane Power may make Lawes or Canons to regulate and order it or any thing in it but Christ alone Fourthly That to maintaine their New Way of Government they are enforced to deny the undoubted Power and Jurisdiction of Parliaments Councells Synods Kings and Civill Magistrates in Ecclesiasticall affaires and to maintaine such Paradoxes Passages against their lawfull Authority as if duly pondered may justly induce all Wel-affected persons to mistrust and abhorre their Way as Anarchicall and destructive to all Christian and humane Society Fifthly That they are constrained publikely to deny that there is any Nationall Church under the New Testament though they acknowledge one in the Old Upon which ground they must of necessity likewise deny one Article of the Creed That there is a Catholike Church and themselves members of it or of the Nationall Church of England They pluck up the bounds and orderly distribution of all Parish Churches absolutely necessary to avoyd confusion to provide competent maintenance for Ministers to bring all to frequent the publike Ordinances Warranted by Scripture wherein wee read not onely of distinct Synagogues and Tribes under the Law but Churches under the Gospel Approved by the practice of all Christian Churches ever since there were Christian Emperors Princes and as necessary as distinct Families Villages Cities Societies of men in civill respects yea observed in New-England it selfe though now disliked in Old and thereby bring in meere Ataxy and Confusion among us Sixthly They are constrained to wrest Scriptures against their meaning to invent many strange Apocryphall new shifts Interpretations Distinctions to evade
over them both in and out of Synods After this in the very height of Popery and the revivall of it in England in the first year of Queen Mary a Parliament and Convocation being summoned to re-establish Popery the Queen her selfe appointed and commanded a publike Disputation to be held at Pauls Church in London in the Convocation house about the matter of the Sacrament which was accordingly held and continued six whole dayes many Earles Lords knights Gentlemen and divers of the Parliament Court and City being present at it to the end that they might constitute Laws of the matters of Religion debated which the Queen and Parliament might ratifie The Disputation being ended The Queen sent a Writ to Bonner Bishop of London to dissolve the Convocation which was done accordingly So that this Convocation did nothing in matter of doctrine or discipline even in these times of Popery but what the Queen did first direct and limit them Queen Mary deceasing and Queen Elizabeth a Protestant Princesse succeeding her called a Parliament and Convocation to suppresse Popery and re-establish the Protestant true Religion To effect which with more facility this pious Queen having heard of the diversity of opinions in maters of Religion among sundry of her loving Subjects and being very desirous to have the same reduced to some godly and christian concord by the advice of the Lords and others of the Privy Councell as well for the satisfaction of persons doubtfull as also for the knowledge of the very truth in certain matters of difference commanded a convenient chosen number of the best learned of either part to conferre together their opinions and reasons concerning three particular points that should be prescribed to them thereby to come to some good and charitable agreement with all convenient speed Hereupon nine of the learnedst Papists were chosen on the one side and nine of the ablest Protestants on the other to debate these three Propositions prescribed to them in writing 1. It is against the word of God and the custome of the ancient Church to use a tongue unknown to the people in common Prayer and the administration of the Sacraments 2. Every Church hath authority to appoint take away and change Ceremonies and Ecclesiasticall Rites so the same be to edification 3. It cannot be proved by the word of God that there is in the Masse offered up a sacrifice propitiatory for the quick and the dead It was further resolved by the Queens Majesty that the conference on both parties should be in writing for avoiding much altercation of words that both sides should declare their minds opinions and reasons in writing and at the same day deliver them mutually one to the other to be considered and to return their answers thereto in writing by a certaine day Immediately herupon divers Nobles and States of the Realme understanding that such a meeting and conference should be in certain matters whereupon In the Court of Parliament consequently following some Lawes might be grounded they made earnest request to her Majesty that the parties of this conference might be ordered to put and read their Assertions in the English tongue and that in the presence of them of the Nobility and of The Parliament House for the better satisfaction and ordering of their owne judgements to treat and conclude of such Lawes as might depend hereupon This also being thought very reasonable was signified to both parties and so fully agreed upon and the day appointed for the first meeting to bee the Friday in the afternoone being the last of March at Westminster Church At which day and place both for good order and for honor of the Conference By the Queens Maiesties Commandement the Lords and others of the privie Councell were present and a great part of the Nobility also The Lord Keeper and the rest of the Lords bearing chiefe sway in ordering this conference as you may read at large in Master Fox in the second dayes discourse In this Conference I shall onely observe two passages of the Protestant party The first is the begining of their Prologue to their written Conference in these words For as much as it is thought good to the Queens most Excellent Majesty unto whom in the Lord all obedience is due that we should declare our Iudgement in writing upon certain Propositians We as becometh us to do herein most gladly obey The next is their third observation from the law of Justinian the Emperor commanding all Bishops and Priests to celebrate the holy oblation and prayers in Baptisme with an audible voyce c. And let them know this that if they neglect any of these things the dreadfull judgement of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ shall fall upon you neither will wee when wee know it rest and leave it unrevenged viz. That this Emperour being a christian did not only make Constitutions of Ecclesiasticall matters but also threatneth revenge and sharp punishment to the violaters of the same Therefore they held he had an obliging power over his Subjects and a coersiveauthority vested in him to enforce obedience to his Lawes of which more hereafter As this was the practise of this blessed pious Queen in the begining of her Raigne to prescribe to her Clergy in Convocation what they should treat off and how So it continued in use and was punctually submitted to by all Convocations during her Raigne and that not onely as a matter of complement but of conscience religion and the established doctrine of the Church of England as you may read at large in Bishop Jewels Apology of the Church of England and in the Defence of his Apologie against Harding part 6. c. 9. to 16. p. 689. to 766. a learned full discourse to this purpose and in Bishop Bilsons true Difference between Christian Subjection unchristian Rebellion the second part to omit all others who have handled this subject in her Raigne It seemes therefore strange to me that this which was reputed the true doctrine of the emmine●test learnedest writers Reformers of this Church and of the Church of England it selfe from the begining to the end of her happy Raign and ever since should bee deemed meere Antichristian Diabolicall theomacall and meer Popish doctrine now when as the contrary opinion is really such Our late Soveraigne King James in his Letters Patents before the Ecclesiasticall Canons and Constitutions made in Convocation A● 1603. recites that he called that Convocation by his Writ and that ●e did By severall Letters Patents under his Great Seale of England the one dated the 11. of April the other the 25. of Iune in the first year of his Raigne Give and grant full free and lawfull liberty power and Authority unto the sayd Clergy in their Convocation who without such a Patent and License could debate and conclude nothing else it had been vaine and superfluours To conferre Treat Debate Consider Consult and agree of and upon
Cremensis on Victors part and by Gulielmus Papiensis on Alexanders side In conspectu Regum Praesulum coram universa quae convenerat multitudine cleri et opuli In the presence of the Kings and Prelats and before all the multitude of the Clergy and People there assembled where Papiensis pleaded Alexanders cause so well and answered retorted what ever the opposite partie had alleaged soe substantially Vt neuter ulterius Princeps cunctaretur repudiata parte Octaviani Dominum Alexandrum recipere et cum Regnis sibi subditis ei de caetero in ijs quae Dei sunt tanquam Patri parere The forenamed Schismatickes therefore departing with confusion and shame Our Princes and Prelates Principes et Pontifices having solemnly pronounced a sentence of excommunication against the Schismatickes dissolved the Synod Loe here both the Emperor the Kings of England and France with their Nobles as well as Prelates present in a severall Councells directing and determining this great controversie in them who was Peters rightfull successor ratefying and receiving him for Pope whom they conceived in their indifferent Judgments to have the best title yea the Laity had here their voyces as well as the Clergy consented to the decrees of both Councells So when there was a former Schisme between Clement Vrban concerning the Title of the Papacie VVilliam Rufus enquiring who had the best right commanded Vrban to be reputed Apostolicall and true Pope throughout his Dominions eique vice beati Petri IN CHRISTIANA RELIGIONE not in any temporall affaires obedire claiming this as a part of his prerogative royall that none should acknowledge or receive any man for Pope or Peters successor within his Kingdome but by his election and authority and him whom he should declare to be the man accounting him no lesse then a Traitor that should deprive him of this right which his Ancestors claimed and enjoyed An. 1170. at the request of King Hen the 2d two Cardinalls Albert and Theodine were sent into France from Rome who having called a great Assembly of Ecclesiasticall persons and Noblemen within the Teritorries of the King of England they solemnly admitted the King to purge himselfe before them of the murther of Thomas Becket Archbishop of Canterbury which purgation the King there made and submitted himselfe naked to Ecclesiasticall discipline Anno 1175. Richard Archbishop of Canterbury kept a great Councell at Westminster to which almost all the Bishops and Abbots of the Province of Canterbury came Et coram pranominatis Regibus and before King Henry the second and King Henry his Sonne and the Bishops and Abbots Richard Archbishop of Canterbury standing in an high place promulged certaine Decrees Canons concerning Clergy-men the Eucharist Tythes recorded by Hoveden to be firmely and inviolably observed by all his Provincials so that both the Kings assented to them though they were but Collections of some Decrees out of former Councels In the same yeare King Henry the Father called another Councell at Windesore eight dayes after Michaelmas Praesentibus Rege Filio the King and his Sonne being present Richard Archbishop of Canterbury with the Bishops of England and Laurence Archbishop of Dublin Praesentibus etiam Comitibus Baronibus Angliae the Carles and Barons of England being also present In which Councell being a meer Parliament there was a generall Concord made between King Henry the second and Rodericke King of Conact in Ireland and the King in that Councell gave the Bishoprick of Waterford to one Augustine an Irishman whom he sent to Donatus Archbishop of Cassels to be Consecrated Anno 1176. King Henry the second assembled and held a great Councell at Nottingham concerning the Statutes of his Kingdome and before the King his Sonne and the Archbishops Bishops Earles and Barons of his Kingdom communi omnium Concilio by the common Councell of them all he divided his Kingdome into sixe parts through each of which he appointed three Iustices Itinerant whom he caused to swear upon the holy Evangelists that they should bona fide and without any sinister intention keep and cause the people of his Kingdom inviolably to observe the Articles of Assize there renued and confirmed recorded at large by Hoveden To this Councell by the Kings command came William King of Scots with all his Bishops whom the King commanded by the fealty and Oath of Allegiance they had taken to him to do the same subjection to the Church of England which they ought to do and were went to do in the times of his Predecessors To whom they answered that they never had made any subjection or homage to the Church of England nor ought so to do To which Roger Archbishop of York replyed That the Bishop of Glascow and of Candida Casa or Whitterne had in the time of his Predecessors been subject to the See of Yorke and for proofe hereof he shewed divers priviledges of the Bishops of Rome which made it appeare To which Jocelin Bishop of Glascow answered That the Church of Glascow was a speciall Daughter of the Church of Rome and exempt from all Archiepiscopall and Episcopall jurisdiction and if the Church of Yorke had any jurisdiction over the Church of Glascow at any time it appeared that he deserved not to have any dominion over it for time to come And because Richard Archbishop of Canterbury endeavoured that the Church of Scotland should be subject to the Church of Canterbury such was his ambition then he so crossed the King of England That he permitted the Bishops of Scotland to return home without making any subjection of themselves to the Church of England as they had formerly done Anno 1176. Hugo Cardinalis Hoveden stiles him Hugozun the Popes Legate by the Kings permission and asistance called a generall Councell at London in the midst of Lent where the Archbishops of Canterbury and York and all the Bishops and Abbots of England with a great number of Clergie-men assembling together the Cardinall sate on an high throne in the Chappell of the infirme Monkes of Westminster and the Bishops and Abbots with him every one in his place according to his order and dignity But there arose a contention between the Archbishops of Canterbury and Yorke which of them should sit at the right hand of the Cardinall And when as the Archbishop of Yorke would sit there the Bishop of Canterburies servants rushed violently upon him threw him down upon the ground trampled on him with their feet and brake his Miter whereupon the Councel was dispersed and the Cardinall flying to hide himselfe out of their sight was so hindered that he held no Councel Both sides made appeales to the Pope and complained to the King of the injuries done unto them So Hoveden Gulielmus Nubrigensis relates the story in these words When the Cardinall assisted by the Kings favour had called together the Ecclesiasticall persons of both Provinces of
his temporalities goods Chattels seised into the Kings hands Who yet would not yeeld but pronounced them all excommunicate who disobeyed the former constitution which being made onely by the Clergy and not ratified by King and Parliament was held but a meere idle nullity and audacious disobedient attempt obliging neither King nor subject Anno 1418. A Provinciall Synod was held at London under Henry Chichely Archbishop of Canterbury Where upon the motion of Robert Guilbert President of Merton Colledge in Oxford and of Thomas Kington it was decreed That the Patrons of Ecclesiasticall benefices when they fell voyd should conferre them upon such who were Graduates in the Universities having a respect of their degree and profession according to the value of the living This Constitution being propounded in the Congregation in the University to be there ratified the Masters of Arts Monks and Professors who exceeded the Regents of the University in multitude rejected and refused it but K. Henry the fifth being addicted to learning An. 1420. writ to the Synod then assembled at London wherein the Chancellors both of Oxford and Cambridge petitioned that it might be received though the Maisters of Art had refused to receive it to passe the Decree which some Friars there opposed Judge in Parliamento postea confirmavit and he afterwards confirmed the same in Parliament Loe here a Constitution first made in a Synod or Convocation rejected in both Vniversities because not then confirmed by the King in Parliament to make it binding and efficatious for future times a most pregnant evidence for proofe of that I now contend for To cite more presidents of this nature in former ages would be more tedious than necessary in so plaine a case I shall therefore passe from Councels and Synods to direct Acts of Parliament touching Religion and Church affaires As high as we have any Acts of Parliament since the Conquest remaining on Record We finde all Ecclesiasticall matters and Church affaires setled and ratified by speciall Acts of Parliament only not by the Clergies Canons The great Charter of England first granted by King Henry the first ratified afterwards at Runing-Mead by King John revived by King Henry the third in the ninth yeare of his Raigne confirmed frequently by him afterwards by King Edward the first in the 28th yeare of his Raigne yea by all or most of his successors in speciall Acts of Parliament by the Petition of Right 3. Caroli begins thus Know yee that we to the honour of Almighty God and for the salvation of the Soules of our Progenitors and Successors Kings of England to the advancement of holy Church c. First We have granted to God and by this our present Charter have confirmed for Vs and our Heires for ever more that the Church of England shall be free and have all her rights and liberties inviolable And that all her elections shall bee free c. An. 1164. In February there was a Parliament held at Clarindon by King Henry the 2d his command who was there present where all the Archbishops Bishops Abbotts Priors Earles Barons Nobles and great men of the Realm made a Recognition or Recerd of part of the Customes and Liberties of the Kings Ancestors to wit of King Henry the first and others which ought to be observed and kept by all men in the Realm by reason of the dissention and discords frequently emerging betweene the Clergy and the Kings Iustices and great men of the Realme the substance whereof was conteined in these 16. Chapters recorded by Matthew Paris 1. That if any controversie concerning the advowson and presentation of Churches should arise betweene Laymen or betweene Laymen and Clergie men it should bee heard and determined in the Court of our Lord the King 2. That the Churches of the Fee of our Lord the King could not bee given in perpetuity or appropiated without his grant or concession 3. That Clergiemen accused of any thing being summoned by the Kings Iustice should come into the Kings Court to answer the same there that so the Kings Court might determine what was to bee answered there and what fit to be answered in the Ecclesiasticall Court that so the Iustice might send into the Court of holy Church to see how the matter shall there be handled And if the Clarke shall be convict or confesse the crime that the Church from thenceforth ought not to protect him 4. That it shall not be lawfull to the Archbishops Bishops and persons of the Realme to goe out of the Realme without the Licence of our Lord the King and if they shall goe thence if it shall please the King they shall give him security that neither in going nor in returning nor in staying they shall procure hurt or dammage to our Lord the King or the Realme 5. That excommunicate persons ought not to give a pledge to remaine vadium ad remanentiam nor to take an Oath but onely to give a surety or pledge of standing to the judgment of the Church where they are absolved 6. That Laymen ought not to be accused but by lawfull accusers witnesses in the presence of the Bishop that the Arch-Deacon may not lose his right nor any thing that he ought to have from thence And if those who are accused shall be such that no man will or dares to accuse the Sheriffe being required by the Bishop shall sweare twelve lawfull men of the Vicenage or Town before the Bishop that they shall manifest the truth concerning such according to their Consciences 7. No man who holds of the King in Capite nor any of his Dominicall Ministers or house-hold servants shall be excommunicated nor the Lands of any one of them put under interdict unlesse our Lord the King if he bee within the Realme be first acquainted therewith or his Iustice if he shall be forth of the Realme the reason then rendred was lest the King should at unawares Kisse or admit to his Councell such an excommunicate person resorting to him that so he may doe right concerning him and see that what appertaineth to the Kings Court shall be there determined and that what belongeth to the Ecclesiasticall Court may bee sent unto it that it may bethere descided 8. Concerning appeales if they shall happen they ought to proceed from the Arch-Deacon to the Bishop from the Bishop to the Archbishop and if the Archbishop shall faile in exhibiting Iustice they may appeale to our Lord the K. in the last place and that by his precept the controversie may be ended in the Arch-Bishops Court so that there ought to bee no further proceeding without the assent of our Lord the King 10. If any be cited by the Arch-Deacon or Bishop for any offence for which he ought to answer to them and will not appeare upon their citations it shall bee lawfull for them to put him under interdict but they ought not to excommunicate him till he be convented before the
That every particular Church now consisting of visible Saints is under Christ as the SOLE Head King Governour Law-giver of it and so is subject to no other jurisdiction then that of Christ his Spirit his Word We hold that every particular Church is under Christs Government as the SOLE Head King Lord Governour thereof That it is a spirituall House whose only builder and Governour is Christ and not man A spirituall Kingdome whose only King is Christ and not man A spirituall Republique whose only Law-giver is Christ and not man A spirituall Corporation whose only head is Christ and not man That no man nor power on earth hath a Kingly power over this Kingdome That no earthly Law-givers may give Lawes to this Kingdome or Republique That no man may claime or exercise a head-ship over this body That no man can or ought to take the Government of this Communion of Saints That men may not appoint limit constitute what Congregations of all sorts they please to be Churches of Christ as Nations and Parishes That Christ is King over every mans conscience so that no power on earth may sit with him in this his Thror c. yea so as no human power not Law may intermeddle to prescribe rules for the Government or formes of this Church of Christ That the Children of those Parents who will not thus acknowledge Christ to be their only King and Law-giver and are ashamed or afraid to be thus in Covenant with Christ in the Independents way as their King are not to be baptized such Parents not being within the Covenant A very hard and uncharitable censure of all Churches Persons who are not Independent That Christ is the ONLY Potentate Law-giver Lord King Governour over Churches and not men Not Councells or Senates That this is Christs Royall Prerogative which is incommunicable to ANY or All the powers on earth That Christ hath not delegated his Kingly Office to any Princes Magistrates PARLIAMENTS to set up any forme of Worship of Church-Government who have no authority to make Lawes to rule or binde any particular Churches and if they make any such they shall be apt to transgresse them but yet men must take heed how they punish them for that transgression with any enseresciderdum or Club-law This is the summe and oft repeted Argument of my deare Brothers Booke To give a satisfactory Answer to this Objection I shall first demand of my dear Brother what he meanes by this frequently incultated assertion That every particular Church is under Christ as the only Head King Lawgiver Lord and Governour thereof c. and that none ought to have any power rule or Jurisdiction in the Church but Christ alone If he intends that he is the only immediate HEAD KING Law-giver and Governour as he clearely doth I desire some solid scripture proofes for it since he produceth none to evince it the rather because it is quite contrary to sundry expres Texts which stile Kings Majestrates Ministers Heigher powers Rulers Overseers Fathers Nursing Fathers Pastors of over their Churches people flocks who are ever enjoyned to obey submit unto them yea Rulers of the Templ Congregation Church Rulers Chife Rulers of the Synagogu ●ay sometimes Gods sitting upon Gods throne to whom men must yeeld obedience for the Lords sake as to Gods Christs Vicegerents and Embassadours Yea Brother your selfe informe us out of Scripture pag. 51. That the members of Christs body are Superiour and inferiour as Pastors Teachers Teaching and RVLING Elders Helps GOVERNMENTS Bishops or OVERSEERS c. If Christ then be the onely Head King Ruler Shephard Governour of his Church and none else in that sense you object what will become of these Pastors Ruling-Elders Governours Overseers which you averre Christ hath fixed in his Churches What will become of those Independent Ministers who take upon them like absolute kings Popes Lawgivers to erect gather new Chruches of their own forming and prescribe both Lawes Rules Covenants to them which Christ never made Brother you must expunge the 1 Tim. 5. 17 Let the Elders that RULE well be counted worthy of double honour Rom. 13. 1. Let every soule BEE SVBIECT to the HIGHER POWERS c. even for CONSCIENCE SAKE Tit. 3. 1. Put them in minde to be subject to Principalities and Powers to obey Magistrates c. Heb. 12. 17. Obey them that have THE RULE OVER YOU and SVBMIT your selves for they watch for your soules as they that must give an account c. Remember Salute all them that have the RVLE OVER YOV Acts 20. 28. Take heed to the floke over which the Holy Ghost hath made you OVERSEERS or Bishops to feed the Church of God which he hath purchased with his bloud Rom. 12. 8. HE that RVLETH let him do it with diligence 2 Chron. 9. 8. Blessed be the Lord thy God who delighted in thee to set thee VPON HIS THRONE to BE KING FOR THE LORD THY GOD c. with infinite other Texts yea the very names of Kings Princes Governours Elders Rulers Magistrates Overseers Bishops Teachers Fathers Pastors Masters c. out of the Bible and all Christian States Churches if you will make Christ alone the only immediate King Ruler Governour Lawgiver of his Church in the sence you here object it and that no person nor humane power whatsoever hath or ought to have any rule power or jurisdiction in or over the Churches people of God But if you meane no more but that Christ is the onely supreame Head King Lord Governour Lawgiver Pastor and Ruler of his Church and that all other Kings Princes Magistrates Rulers Pastors Ministers Governours are subordinate unto him as to the King of Kings Lord of Lords and chiefe Shepheard of his flock● your proposition is true but your conclusion miserably false that therfore there are no subordinate Kings Magistrates Rulers Pastors Governours Lawgivers under him to rule governe order instruct direct his Churches and people which the forequoted Texts your owne experience reason and the whole world will contradict Secondly I shall demand of my Brother how he proves all his forementioned Paradoxes concerning Christ and the Church in the sense he propounds them Or that his own or other Independent Churches lately gathered erected by no other but by men and consederated by a new Covenant framed by men not Christ to be built governed ordered onely by Christ and not men to be the spirituall Kingdome of Christ c. whole onely King Governour Head is Christ and not man Or in what Text he can shew me any particular Independent Church stiled Christs spirituall Kingdom and Republike I find it prophesied Revl 11. 15. That when the seventh Angel foundeth The KINGDOMES of this World which must be meant of Nationall Churches which you deny not of Particular Congregations which are no such Kingdoms shall become the Kingdomes of the Lord and of his Christ That all the
eclesiasticall over us or passe any censures upon us but only Christ himselfe Brother if such Antimonarchicall Antiparliamentall and Anarchicall Logicke and Divinity be ever taught and beleeved in the world which cutts asunder the nerues and dissolves the very foundation of all Governments and Relations whatsoever whether naturall civill or Ecclesiasticall what an horrible confusion will be immediatly produced to the utter distruction of all Kingdomes Republiques Churches Families Societies Corporations in the World let all prudent men Judge Yet this is the dangerous Logicke this the Foundation stone whereon your whole Independent fabrick is built the absurdities and ill consequences whereof I trust all will now at last discerne Secondly I answer That though Christ be the only King and supream Law-giver of his Church yet it followes not thence that therfore no Parliament or humane power may or can make Lawes to order or governe the Churches and people of God by but onely Christ For Brother your selfe will grant 1. That Parliaments Kings and Synods may and ought to make Lawes to supposse and punish all manner of Idolatry superstition Impietie prophanenesses corruptions Heresies Doctrines Opinions and exorbitances whatsoever in their Churches Ministers people that are contrary to the Word of God the Lawes Doctrine Government of Christ or tending to the depravation disturbance or prejudice of the Church and Gospell Secondly they may publish Lawes and Canons to settle and establish the true Confession of the Christian saith the sincere Ordinances of God and such a true worship Church-Government and Discipline which is most consonant to his Word throughout all Churches in their respective jurisdictions yea compell Ministers to doe their duties and people diligently to repaire to all the Ordinances of God to sanctifie the Lords day and to observe extraordinary dayes of humiliation and thanksgiving upon extraordinary occasions Thirdly They may enact Lawes and Ordinances to settle the places and times of publike Worship and all necessary circumstances w ch concern the same not peremptorily determined in the Scriptures concerning Church assemblies Fourthly They may enact Laws for the maintenance of Ministers of all necessary Church Officers and for prayer preaching reading the Word administring receaving the Lords Supper concerning ordination Mariage siging fasting excommunication agreeable to the Word of God This I presume all will grant and my Brother will not deny which is all I contend for Therfore Christs being the only King Head Ruler and Lawgiver of his Church is no impediment to Kings Parliaments by advise of Synods to enact such Lawes as these and so the Argument a meere Independent Nonsequitur Thirdly Christ is the King Lord Head and Lawgiver of every private Christian or Member of a Congregation as well as of every particular or of the whole Catholik Church and so by your determination he is subject to no other jurisdiction then that of Christ his Spirit and Word Yet I hope you will grant that every Independent Congregation hath a true jurisdiction and power over every particular member of it yea a legislative power to prescribe a speciall covenant and such Ecclesiasticall Rules Orders as the whole Congregation shall thinke meet to which they must submit under paine of excommunication suspension Non-communion and denying baptisme to their Infants as you plainly intimate pag. 44. 45 46 62 63. Therefore these titles and Prerogatives of Christ doe not deprive particular Churches of the power of prescribing covenants Orders Rules and Canons to their Members much lesse then whole Synods Councells Parliaments of farre greater wisdom power Authority then particular Churches And if private Churches may thus oblige their Members then much more may Parliaments Councells all particular Churches within their jurisdictions And so much in answer of this grand argument The second is this Christ is the full and sole King raigning in the heart and conscience of every true Beleever He only is King over every mans Conscience so as no man nor power on earth may sit with him in this his Throne Therefore no Parliament Councell nor human power may prescribe Laws for the Government or ordering of the Church for then of necessity man should be Lord over the Conscience which is the highest presumption against the most high I answer That this argument is grounded upon a very sandy foundation and upon this controversed question both among Divines and Casuists Whether Ecclesiasticall or Civill human Laws made and ratified by the supreame civill Magistrates Parliament bind necessarily oblige us to obedience in point of conscience in case they be not contrary to Gods Word for if they be all grant they do not bind to obedience in point of Conscience My Brother here holds the Negative as an indisputable Maxime That these Laws bind not the conscience in point of Obedience to them A very dangerous false unsound Position tending to meere Anarchy and contempt of all humane Lawes and lawfull Authority in Church or State And for my own part I clearely hold the Affirmative to be an undoubted truth This question is largly debated and held affirmatively by learned Paraeus Explicatio Dubiorum in c. 13. ad Romanos Dubium 7. pag. 1413. to 1446. by Musculus Peter Martyr Marlorat and Doctor Willet in their Commentaries on Rom. 13 with other Protestants on this Text by Ursinus in Exposit secundi Praecepti p. 299. by Theodoret Ambrose Beda Anselme and generally most ancient and modern Commentators on that Text by Alexander Alensis Summa Theologiae Pars. 2. qu 120. Artic 2. 3 4. with whom all other Shoolemen generally concurre Paulus Windek Canonum Legum Consensus Dissensus cap. 4. p. 12. Stapleton in Antid p. 783. Bellarmine l. 3. c. 9. De Laicis Pererius Disp 2. Num. 8. by Saint Augustine in Epist 54. ad Macedonium and in Tit. Psal 70. by Saint Bernard Tract de Praecepto Dispensat With infinite others Indeed Master Calvin Instit lib. 3. c. 9. Sect. 15. 18. and lib. 4. c. 10. Sect. 3. 4 5. Beza in Notis ad Rom. 13. Sibrandus De Pontif Romano l. 8. c. 7. and some others seemingly hold the contrary yet not generally of all but of some particular humane Lawes I shall briefly lay downe the truth of the affirmative part out of Pareus and Doctor Willet in these insuing Propositions and then propound the Affirmative and answer the Negative arguments in their Order to vindicate this truth now most opposed when it is most necessary both to be discovered and obeyed The Propositions are these That all just Civill Ecclesiasticall or Oeconomicall Laws and Ordinances made by the King and Parliament or by lawfull Magistrates Parents Masters Tutors Superiors which concerne the duties of the first or second Table do bind the Conscience of themselves and that simply both in generall and particular That all good Laws made for the determining of any necessary circumstances of Gods Worship or necessary and profitable for
in the Old and New Testament at hainous sin● and capitall offences punishable in some cases with imprisonment banishment confiscation of goods and death it selfe And on the contrary chearful obedience to them is not only commanded but commended by God Himselfe in by and for whom they rule and command as the marginall Scriptures fully manifest Therefore undoubtedly they binde the Conscience And so all Parliaments Law-givers ever held and believed else they would never take care or pains to enact or publish Lawes Finally Princes Magistrates and Parliaments may and oft-times do prescribe solemn Oathes and Covenants to their people to observe both Gods just Laws and their own to as is clear by the Marginall Texts by 28 H. 8. c. 10. 1 Eliz. c. 1. 3 Jac. c. 4. which prescribe an oath of abjuration of the Popes Authority the oathes of Supremacy and Allegiance with infinite other Acts enjoyning sundry other oathes and by the late Protestation Vow and Nationall Covenant made and imposed upon all by the present Parliament Now these oaths and Covenants do without all controversie binde the Conscience to observance and obedience in the highest degree Therefore questionlesse these their oaths Laws Covenants binde the Conscience els we might with safe Conscience refuse and violate them at pleasure which none dares affirme they may who hath any sparkle of Conscience remaining in him I shall now propound and answer the principall contrary Objections which are these 1. It is contrary to Christian liberty and a plaine tyranny that humane Lawes should obliege the Conscience Christ having freed us from all humane Ceremonies Lawes obligations and the Scripture enjoyning us to stand fast in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free and not to be again entangled with the yoake of Bondage Not to be the servants of men Not to be subject to Ordinances as touch not tast not handle not which all are to perish with the using after the commandements and Doctrines of men If therefore humane Lawes should binde the Conscience Christian liberty would be destroyed and tyranny over consciences introduced 1. Answer 1. That it is no wayes repugnant to but very consistent with Christian liberty to be obliged to obey al honest just necessary Lawes all decent and convenient things which may advance Gods glory worship the peace wee le or prosperity of Church State our own felicity and are consonant not repugnant to Gods Law Neither do the objected scriptures extend to such Lawes or Edicts at these 2. That Christian liberty which Christ hath purchased for us is not an exemption or freedome from the obedience of humane Laws but from the dominion and power of sinne the yoake and bondage of the Ceremonial Law abolished by Christs death from the exact performance and condemning power of the morall Law not from obedience to it and from placeing inherent holines o● any matter of Religion worship conscientiousnes in things meerely indifferent in themselves as Mr. Calvin with others who write Deliberitate christiana with most Commentators on the Galathians resolve yet Magistrates may command such things to be done or not done for 〈◊〉 order peace and other publicke ends so as they place no inherent holinesse religion or worship in them and Christians are bound to obey them therein without infringement of their Christian Liberty Thirdly As to the Texts objected The first of them is meant of the Ceremoniall Law and morrall to so farre forth as to seeke justification by it or to be under the rigour and condemning power of it Not of just humane Laws The next is intended onely of● men-pleasers who flatter men in their lusts pleasures errors or obey their unjust commands repugnant to the will of God not of obeying the just Lawes or precepts of Kings Parliaments Magistrates Parents Masters and other superiors for then there shall be no servants no subjection or obedience at all to superiors in this world and this Text should repeale the 5. Commandement with all other precepts of obedience given to subjects wives children servants if thus expounded For that of the Colossians 2. 20 21 22. it appeares by verse 14 15 16 17 c. that it is spoken onely of the Ceremoniall Law and of that Ceremonial holynes or intrinsicall uncleannes which some did put between meats and drink●s which were indifferent in themselves as is most cleare by comparing it with Acts 10. 10. to 16. Rom. 14. 2 3 to 23. 2 Cor. 8. 1 Tim. 4. 3 4 5. Therefore it makes nothing against the Ecclesiasticall or Civill Lawes of Princes and Parliaments who may command abstinence from flesh and such particular things creatures at certaine times for lawfull civill ends which we are obliged to obey though not out of any religious or superstitious respect as if the creature it selfe were unlawfull at such times by any divine precept or in its owne nature our Statutes and Homylies concerning Fishdayes define The second Objection is this That the civill power is temporall and the end of civill Lawes externall or temporall peace and order Therefore they binde not the Conscience I Answer That the end of Ecclesiasticall Lawes is not meerly temporall but spirituall and Ecclesiasticall Therefore the objection is not solid 2ly Admit the power he but temporall inregard of the object or end yet internall and outward obedience to those Laws is the principall thing intended in them which none can with safe conscience deny where the Laws are just necessary The third is That Magistrates Parliaments and their Lawes have nothing to do with mens consciences which they cannot judge or discerne but onely with th●● outward actions Therefore they cannot binde the conscience I answer that though Majestrats have nothing to do with nor can judg of mens consciences or opinions simply considered in themselves concealed yet they have to do withal their external actions flowing from regulated by their consciences and opinions Therefore they may binde the conscience as it is Practicall punish Atheists Heritickes Papists Idolaters when they openly appear to be such 2ly The very Law Of God hindes the conscience to obey all iust commands of higher powers therefore such commands even by vertue of Gods owne precept oblige the conscience to internall obedience as wel as the body to externall The 4th is That Princes and temporall Majestrates cannot inflict inward and spirituall but only temporall and externall punishments Therefore they cannot binde the conscience I Answer that men may binde and deliver others over to such punishments as they cannot immediatly inflict The Church may deliver men over even for ecclesiasticall offences to the secular power which they cannot exercise and to temporall punishment which they cannot inflict yea they may deliuer a● they hold men ever unto Sathan and to the judgement of God at the last day which they cannot actually execute Majestrates doe frequently punish the
breach of Gods Laws with temporall punishments yet by this Gods Lawes become not temporall and unobligatory to the conscience So God on the other side may and doth 〈◊〉 the violation of just humane Lawes with spirituall and eternall punishments Majestrates being but his Vicegerents Deputies and the contempt of their just Lawes a contempt of God himselfe Therefore the Argument holds not The 5th Objection is this that the conscience only respects God therefore nothing can binde it but Gods owne Law which is spirituall I Answer That the conscience respects as well men as God Act. 24. 16 therefore the just Lawes of men as I have proved as well as of God 2ly The conscience looks upon the just Laws and precepts of men not meerly as human Lawes but as proceeding from the Ministers and Vicegerents of God himselfe whom they represent and whom God himselfe frequently enjoynes us to obey The 6th Is this No one man and by consequence not all mens consciences in the world may or can Iudge another mans conscience who standeth or falleth 〈◊〉 his owne Master Rom. 14. 4. 16. Ergo they cannot make Lawes to binde the conscience I Answer first that this text speakes only of privat Christians Judging one another in things indifferent as meates holy dayes c. when and where there is neither law of God nor man inhibiting the free use or refusall of them at the whole Chapter manifests Therefore it makes nothing against necessary ecclesiastical● Laws Canons obliging men to obedience even in point of conscience 2ly The Apostle expresly concludes in this very Chap. v. 14. to 23. That in case of giving scandal and offence to weak Brethren we ought to abstaine from the very use of lawful indifferent things even out of conscience of the scandall hurt don thereby not simply of the things themselves though there be no law of God or man restraining or altering the indifferency or lawfulnes thereof that without any impeachment of Christian liberty Therefore when necessary or convenient things meerly indifferent in their nature are enjoyned by Superiors just Laws or inconvenient indifferent things prohibited for the publick good or peace they ought much more to be submitted to without impeachment of christian liberty out of Conscience of the Law and scandall which would follow the volation thereof and in obedience to the generall Law of God which commands obedience to such Lawes The 7. Objection is this There is one Lawgiver which is able to save and to destroy to wit God● who art thou that judgest another Iam. 4. 12. Ergo none can make laws to bind the conscience but God I answer 1. that there is but one supream absolut Lawgiver which is God Is 33. 2. wch excluds not subordinat ones 2ly The Apostle saith not that there is ONLY one law-giver that can save and destroy neither will the words infallibly conclude there is but one such since humane law-givers can make Lawes to save or destroy the lives bodyes and Estates of men as appeares by Scripture and the Lawes of all Nations though not their Soules as they are meare humane Lawes but only collaterally as the wilful contempts and violations of them are sins breaches of the very law of God prescribing obedience to those Lawes in which sence they may secondarily destroy the very soules of men Thirdly This Text takes not away the power of making necessary temp●rall or Ecclesiasticall Laws for then no such Lawes could possibly be made by any But the meaning of the Apostle is this That onely God the Supreame Law-giver is able by his Law to make any indifferent lawfull thing necessary or unlawfull in it selfe in point of Religion or conscience and to change the meere indifferency of it into a thing simply good or evil and not humane Law-givers Therefore we should not judge or condemne one another in the use or neglect of those things which God himselfe hath left indifferent where there is no circumstance of scandall or contempt of humane Lawes to engage us to use or not to use them But it reacheth not to such humane Lawes Civill or Ecclesiasticall which command or prohibit things agreeable to the rules of Gods Word or things necessary and expedient for Order Decency Peace avoyding of scandall and other mischiefes which Lawes as Doctor Willet himselfe who makes this objection affirmes do binde the conscience notwithstanding this objected Text. And thus much for my Brothers first generall Objection His second is this That the Scripture holds forth and Christ in the New-Testament presoribes and layes down unto us but ONLY ONE and that a most compleat and exact forme of Church government and Discipline which ought not to be altered or varied from in the least title being a part of the Gospel and must be BUT ONE and THE SAME in all Nations Churches in all ages throughout the World precisely observed by all Churches without the least variation That the Independent way alone is this divine unalterable Evangelicall platforme Therefore nor King nor Parliament though assisted with a Synod of most pious and learned orthodox Divines justly may or can of right make any Ecclesiasticall binding Lawes for the government or Discipline of the Churches of Christ within their Jurisdictions it being indeed a meere adding to the Word of God prohibited under a curse Deut. 4. 2. c. 12. 22. Prov. 30. 6. Rev. 22. 18 19. Thus my deare Brother and other Independents Argue with more confidence than evidence of Scripture To which I answer first That though Christ and his Apostles have instituted in the Gospel all necessary Church-Officers as Evangelical Bishops Elders Ministers Deacons Pastors Teachers c. and likewise given some general rules for the Government and Discipline of his Church yet he hath neither instituted nor prescribed any such unalterable compleat exact forme of Church-government and Discipline in all ages and Churches in the New Testament as is pretended by many not evidenced by any My reasons are these First Because no such exact and punctuall platforme is or can be clearly demonstrated to us nor discovered by us in the Scripture upon most diligent scrutiny Quod non lego non credo hath alwayes been reputed a solid Argument in matters of Divinity and divine institutions The Apostle Heb. 7. 13. 14. argues thus negatively even in the point of Christs Priesthood because Moses spake nothing of the Tribe of Iudah concerning Priesthood And God himselfe argues thus Deut. 9. 12. 15. Ye saw no manner of similitude therefore ye shall make no likenesse or image of me I may safely argue negatively in like sort The Scripture speaks nothing of such an exact universall Platforme and we see no image or similitude of it in the Gospel Therefore there is no such Secondly Independents have been frequently pressed to shew us any such exactform of Church-government instituted and generally prescribed to all ages
Churches in the Bible yet none of them nor my dear Brother have hitherto been able to shew it though they have oft-times promised it Therefore we presume there is no such Shew us but some cleare Texts to manifest it and we will believe you without more dispute till then though you were Angels from Heaven we dare not credit you without a word to build on 3ly Because some Independents themselves one Anonymous who hath published a malicious Answer to me full of virulency against Presbytery the Scots positively deny any such universall platforme concurring fully with me in opinion Fourthly Because the Churches of God ever since the Apostles dayes have in severall Nations Republikes States and Conditions had different formes of Government Discipline Ceremonies administrations in some particulars as the Independent Congregations of Brownists Anabaptists Familists c. differ in sundry things of moment among themselves and yet have ever beene reputed true Churches of Christ The Churches of England Scotland France Geneva Germany Aethiopia Russia Greece Bohemia and the Netherlands vary one from another in their Government Discipline Rites Ceremonies in some points of Doctrine and are not Independent yet none of our Brethren I suppose will be so uncharitable as to deem them all Antichristian opposers of the Kingdome and Government of Christ and no true Churches as they must of necessity be if Church-government be a part of the Gospel one uniform unalterable Government universally prescribed to them all Fiftly Because the Gospel never intended to subvert diminish crosse or destroy the lawfull civill politicall Governments Lawes Customes of Kingdomes Nations Republikes which are Gods own Ordinance as well as Churchgovernment since one Ordinance of God doth not crosse or thwart another Now the lawfull Governments Customes Manners of most Nations Kingdoms Republiks being various different one from another the Gospel to be equally preached to them all some Church-government erected among them all and the condition of the Church whiles militant in this world being as full of changes as the Moone sometimes tossed with the boysterous waves almost drowned in the flouds of affliction Sometimes totally ecelipsed and driven into the wildernesse in one place yet slourishing or lesse troubled in another Othertimes in a prosperous peaceable condition Sometimes under Pagan or impious Princes and Magistrates other whiles under more or lesse pious Christian Kings and Governours sometimes in a more pure light some otherwhiles in a more corrupt ignorant condition Sometimes over-growne with haeresies schismes Innovations other-times holding forth the truth more clearly and purging out of all errors sometimes requiring a more sharpe and rigorous Discipline other-times a more milde and gentle Yea some Nations being more barbarous fierce obstinat vitious proner to some kinde of vices sins corruptions then others and so needing a Discipline Government somewhat discrepant from those who are more civell and ingenious Some using one gesture of prayer adoration administring the Sacrament some another as some bowing others kneeling others prostration some knocking of the breasts some bare-headed others covered some vayled others unvayled some sitting at the Lords Supper in one manner others in another Some kneeling others standing some using dipping others sprinkling others washing in baptisme some one kinde of tongue tone tune gesture in singing Preaching Praying others another which is all I meant in my first and second Queries by the manners and customes of the people which my deare Brother mis-interprets as meant of their superstitious and corrupt customes not their civill which I onely intended Some one forme of Temples Churches Tables Pulpits Chalices Vestments others another and all Nations not having the selfe-same opinion judgement of the lawfulnes or conveniency of one sort of Church-government as of another I conceive there was a kinde of necessity under the Gospel of leaving divets things in Church-government and Discipline more indeffinite and arbittary then under the Leviticall Law given onely to the Iewish Nation and that not for perperuity but till the Gospel came which see them free from that yoake of bondage and left them and all other beleevers at greater liberty than before This I conceive to be the true reason why there is no such precise universall set forme of Church-government and Discipline punctually prese●bed without the least variation to all Nations Churches in the New Testament as you say was to the Israelites in the old 6ly The Government and Discipline of the Churches of Christ hath bin alwayes more or lesse variable in every age and never continued uniforme constant unalterable in any age as the fundamentall Doctrines of the Church have done We are able to produce Professors of the Doctrines maintained in the Protestant Churches in all ages the Doctrine of the Gospel being universally the same and unalterable But no creature is able to demonstrate a succession of any one kind of Church-government discipline in all ages or Churches be it Presbyteriall Episcopall or mixt of both much lesse any series of Independent Churches Therefore certainly there is no such universall divine set forme of Church-government and Discipline essentiall to the being of a true Church prescribed in the Scriptures as some have fancied for then it would have had a being in some part or other of the world in all ages as well as the Doctrine of the Gospel and the Sacraments 7ly All Independents reach that there is no set forme of publick Prayer Liturgy preaching administring the sacrament in every particular nor yet of the matter or fashion of Churches Tables Chancels Vestments Gestures of Worship prescribed to all Churches Nations in all ages without variation yea they reject all set formes of publike Prayers administration of the Sacraments and Liturgies in Churches as Antichristian unlawfull or unexpedient at the least though they can hardly prove them such If then there be no set forme of publique Prayers Liturgy Preaching administring the Sacraments c. prescribed to all Churches in al ages without any variation and every Minister be 〈◊〉 at large to use his owne Method and manner of Praying Preaching administring the Sacraments Chatechising as Independents affirme provided it be generally consonant to the word Let them render me a solid reason if they can why there should be only one universall unalterable divineforme of Church-Government and Discipline precisely imposed on all Churches Nations ages alike without the least variation else they must of necessity grant as great a liberty and indefinitenes in the one as other and that there may be as many different formes of Church-Government and Discipline as of preaching praying Singing of Psalmes administring the Sacraments c. provided they be all decent agreeable to the generall rules of Scripture though not particularly prescribed therin 8ly All grant there is no immutable universall set forme of Civill Government prescribed to all Nations Republickes Cities Families Christian or Ethenicall 〈◊〉 they have a
liberty left them to elect what civil government they by publique consent shall deem most convenient provided it be generally agreeable to Gods Word which hath prescribed generall rules applicable to all civill Governments actions as well as Ecclesiasticall and spirituall though no one Government in particular And why the Government of the CHVRCH MILITANT should be more particularly uniformly unalterably said down in scripture then the Government of Christian Kingdoms Nations states under the Gospel which leaves both of them equally undetermined since both of them were alike limited among the Israelites under the Law no rational man cangive any solid reason Christ being King of Kings Lord of Lords yea a great King over all the Earth the only Potentate and Lord of Kingdoms Nations Republiques and of mens bodyes estates as well as KING and Lord of his Church Saints or of mens soules and consciences 9ly There was not only one uniforme Church-government at first under the Gospell in all Churches no not in the Apostles times for in the originall gathering and planting of the Christian Churches they had at first only Apostles Brethren no Elders or Deacons After that their Churches increasing they proceeded to elect ordain Deacons in the Churches of Ierusalem and afterwards some other Churches though not in all for ought we read Not long after the Apostls ordained Elders in Churches which had none at first after that Widowes in some Churches not in all In the primitive Churches some Congregations had Apostle s Evangelists Prophets workers of miracles Healers by miraculous extraordinary gifts of healing men endued with diversities of Tongues Interpretation of Tongues GOVERNMENTS that is men gifted with an extraordinary faculty of Governing Churches all which the Scriptures many Divines distinguish Other Churches at that time had none of these Officers or members and all Churches have beene deprived of them since those dayes these Officers not being perpetuall but temporary as all acknowledge though Christ might have continued a succession of them still had he pleased Therefore the Government and Officers of all Churches not being de facto one and the selfesame in all particulars in the very Primitive times as well as since it can never be proved to be of divine right but one the sel same in al succeeding ages without the least variation since it was not so in the Apostles days 10ly The Apostles speech 1. Cor. 12. 4 5. 6. c. There are diversities of gifts but the same spirit and there are differences of administrations but the same Lord and there are diversities of operations but the same God which worketh all in all compared with v. 8. to 13. ch 9. v. 19. to 24. I made my selfe servant unto all that I might gaine all And unto the Jew I became as a Jew that I might gaine the Jew to them that are under the Law as under the Law that I might gaine the Jew to them that are under the Law To them that are without Law as without Law that I might gaine them that are without Law To the weake I became as weake that I might gaine the weake I am made all things to all men that I might by all meanes save some paralleld with Acts 15. 1. 2. 5. 6. to 32. Ch. 21. 18. to 30. by which it is evident that many Churches of the Iewes and those in Jerusalem did still rotain the use of Circum●ition purification other Iewish Rites Ceremonies which the Churches of the Gentiles by the Apostles owne resolutions WERE NOT TO OBSERUE And with Acts c. 2. to cap. 22. where it expresly appeares that the Apostles and other Christians equally frequented the Iewish Temple Synagogues conforming themselves to the Orders discipline thereof and their owne private Assemblie Cougregations consisting all of professed Christians Wil expresly clear it that all particular Churches Congregations in the Apostles times had not one and the selfe same Church-government Orders Ceremonies Therefore it is most cleare there is no such uniforme general government or discipline necessarily prescribed in the Gospel unto al without the least variation as is objected Eleventhly It must be granted to me till disproved that before the Law from Adams Creation till Moses there was no one universall set forme of Church Government and discipline enjoyned to be observed by all the world from which none might vary in any particular That under the Law it selfe there was one forme of Government Worship Discipline Ceremonies and Solemnities to be observed in the Wildernesse another in the Lind of Canaan One forme in and under the Tabernacle revealed by God described by Moses another in and under the Temple shewed by God and appointed by David and Salomon Yea the second Temple and its Ornaments services differed somwhat from the first and all of them expired when the Gospell came If then there were no one universall constant forme of Church-Government Discipline before and under the Law it selfe then by parity of reason till direct Scripture proofes be produced to the contraty there neither is nor can be any such under the Gospell Twelfthly The Scripture as all must acknowledge gives not many particular but mostly generall Rules for the Government and regulating of our thoughts words actions lives Children Servants Families callings the fashion of our apparell gestures eating drinking sleep c. Yea the promises and threatnings in it are for the most part generall and indefinite yet applyable to every particular person and occasion If then there be for the most part only generall Rules precepts which admit some Latitude and variety in particulars prescribed to us for the very ordering and regulating of our thoughts words actions lives apparell meat drinke c. Then certainely there are but generall Rules and Precepts given us for the Government Discipline of the Churches which admit varieties of Government discipline in sundry particulars so as they agree in the generall with the Word and bee not repugnant to it as well as the generall Rules for regulating our words thoughts actions conversations callings apparell meat drinke and family Governments admit of variety which more immediately concerne every man then the more remote and generall Government of the Church But against this my Brother Burton Objects 1. That God in the Old Testament did give this charge to Moses See that thou doe all things according to the patterne shewed thee in the Mount Hee must not vary ONE PIN And when the Temple was built God was so exact in this that he would not leave it to David himselfe though both a King and a Prophet and a man after Gods owne heart to set up what worship he pleased in the Temple but God gave him an exact patterne of all and that not only by his Spirit but in writing that he might neither adde to nor omit IN THE LEAST TITLE 1 Chron. 28. And it was never left
be kept and so say all but what that i● is the question and page 5. in the Margin Not but we grant AVARIETIE in the method and maner of preaching the Gospell in point of circumstance so as the substance be kept c. SO IN CHURCH GOVERNMENT whereas you averre Moses and David might not in the building of the Tabernacle and Temple VARY IN ONE PIN OR TITLE in your Text I shall thence retort the Argument here upon you thus The forme of the Government of the Church under the Gospell is not so fully or particularly held forth in direct termes in the New Testament as the patterne of the Tabernacle and Temple was in the Old Neither is there any such precept in the New not to vary in the ●east Title from any frame or patterne of Church-government therein prescribed as therewas for not varying from their patternes in the Old Therefore there is no such exact punctuall forme of Church-Government therein instituted or prescribed as is pretended Thirdly Admit the Argument true yet then the great question remaines unresolved Whether your Independent forme onely bee this patterne in the Mount prescribed in the New Testament This I am certaine neither the patterne of the Tabernacle Altar Temple nor Ezechiels measuring of the Temple will ever be able to evidence neither by way of argument nor illustration And therefore you may doe well to insist no more upon them unlesse you will make the world swallow downe this Independent Logick Divinity Moses had a patterne of the Tabernacle shewed to him in the Mount and David the patterne of the Temple shewed him by the Spirit both of them put into writing and Ezechiell did set down the patterne and frame of the Temple and measured it exactly Ergo the Independent New-invented Government is as exactly de●ineated and set downe in the New Testament as these in the Old yea the onely way and Government of Christ from which none must vary in the least Title The second Argument from David the Temple That he gave Solomon an exact patterne of the Porch Chambers Vessels Mercy-seats Treasuries and whole Fabrick of the Temple not only by the Spirit but in writing from which he might not vary in one title Ergo there is a set forme of Church-government and Disciplin prescribed in the Gospel and the Independent it Receives the same Answer and is as incoherent as the first wherefore I shall passe it by with these briefe observations 1. That this Patterne was shewed by the Spirit to David and by him delivered in writing to his Son King Solomon the supream temporall Magistrate who built the Temple and followed this Patterne not to the High-Priest or any other Priests or Levites who were to be ordered directed by David and Solomon not they by them in the services of the Temple Therefore if any good conclusion can bee deduced hence it will be this That under the Gospel the ordering settling of the Government Discipline and Ministers of the Church belongs to the supreame temporall Magistrate as it did under the Law not to the Priests or every particular Independent Congregation who now usurpe this royal uthority without warrant or president Secondly This patterne was exactly set downe in writing as you object distinctly by it selfe and delivered unto Solomon to follow But you can shew no written pattern for your Independent or any other precise universall setteforme of Church-government or Discipline delivered unto any particular person Church or Nation under the Gospell nor distinctly set downe by it selfe in the New Testament Therefore there is no such prescript forme Thirdly This Patterne was principally of the materialls fabricke Altar Porch Chambers Vessells and furniture of the Temple not of the Government of the Church and Congregation neither was there one fillable in it concerning Ecclesiastical Discipline or Church Censures Therefore you can only apply it to materiall Churches under the Gospell and inferre thence Ergo there is a prescript patterne of the materialls forme fashion Porches Chambers Vessels yea Altars for all our Churches Chappell 's given and prescribed to us in writing in the New Testament if you can shew us where as there was to Solomon of the materiall Temple in the old not of the Discipline and Government of the living Temples or Congregations of Christian men the only Church whose fabrick Government and Discipline is now in question Fourthly When the Temple was built and consecrated the Priests and peoples services Ceremonies attendance in and about the Tabernacle wholly ceased though appointed by God and soe the very Forme Ceremonies and services of the Church under the Law were both various and changable yea when the first Temple was destroyed the Temple-services ceased till the second Temple was built much different and inferior improportion beauty Ornaments materialls some services from the former all the services whereof expired by Christs death and were abolished soone after upon the destruction of Ierusalem If this president then of the Temple hath any weight it is to sway the ballance on my side that there is no one unversall unalterable set form of Church government in all particulars prescribed to all Churches under the Gospell but such as admits of some variations and changes as the Tabernacle Temples their services did provided they be suitable to the generall rules of Gods word and not repugnant therunto The third argument That Ezechiell saw the patterne of the Temple in a vison measured it with the parts Chambers Court Altars Implements thereof in all their dimensions and was to shew them to the people which house was a Type of the Church under the Gospell as is said not proved Ergo there is a set forme of Church-government held out and shewed to us under the Gospell and the Independent Platforme it Wants bones to support and sinewes to knit it together For first his measuring and vision was only of the Iewish Temple and no other which was but one not of their Synogogues much lesse of our materiall Christian Churches now which were many Acts 15. 21. Ps 74. 8. 2ly This vision and measuring was not of the Government but only of the fabricke Chambers Court Altar of the material Temple long since abolished and our Churches under the Gospel neither have nor ought to have any such Chambers Porch dimentions courts altars Implements as that Temple had or as Ezechiel saw or measured If then this vision prove nothing for set formes or patterns of materiall Churches Porches Churchyeards Altars not yet for the use of Altars under the Gospell as you will grant I am confident they can prove lesse then nothing for any such set forme of Church-government and discipline as is pretended which Ezechiell saw not in his vision nor ever shewed to the people and yet appeares not fully in the New Testament Perhaps Bishop Mountague from this vision and the two former
Patterns deduced his Assize of surplesses and paterne of the new Altars Rules c. prescribed to be enquired of in his Visitation Articles But I hope my deare Brother can not spie out any such vision nor deduce any such conclusion from this Text nor from that of measuring the Temple Altar in the Revelation which I have elswhere answered and shall here omit The 4th Argument from Dutr. 4. 2. c. 12. 31. Proverb 30. 6. Reu. 22. 19. That God hath prohibited any addition to the Booke of sacred Scripture under a plague and heavy punishment Ergo there is a set forme of Church-government and discipline prescribed in the Gospell which none may vary from by addition or diminuition Is a meere Non-sequitur For first these Texts speake only of Additions to the Bookes Doctrine Histories Prophesies of the Canonicall Scriptures then written as my Brother acknowledgeth and the Texts infallibly prove not of any Church-government Discipline Ceremonies under the Gospell not so much as mentioned or imagined in them Therefore Brother you doe very ill for to wrest these Scriptures thus against their sence and meaning 2ly Brother you know that God himselfe after the writing of the Booke of Deuteronomie the Proveths caused divers other Bookes of Canonicall Scriptures in the old and the whole New Testament to be written for the further benefit and Instruction of his Church Yea many Additions were made to the service of God in the Temple not mentioned by Moses without infringing these Texts therefore your citing of them without any limitation is very impertinent 3ly I feare Brother that those who hold there is an absolute set forme of Church-goverment prescribed in the word to all Churches though they cannot shew it and yet cry up their Independent way as the very Government discipline Kingdome and Ordinance of Christ himselfe though they neither prove nor demonstrate it are far more guilty of this sinne of transegressing these texts by Adding to Gods word then those who deny it are of adding to or detracting from it Take heed therefore I pray of this sin your selfe which you would fasten upon others You know who are most guilty of this va●ting cry The Temple of the Lord the Temple of the Lord the Temple of the Lord are these when yet they were but lying words which party boastes most of the Divinity of their way your whole Book sursets of this in every Page without one solid text to warrant what you so frequently over-confidently affirme Wherefore this Argument returns wholy on your self My Brothers 3. Objection is from the 1 Cor. 7. 17. So ordaine I in all Churches 1. Cor. 16. 1. Now concerning the collection the Saints as I have given order to the Churches of Galatia SO ALSO DO YE Every first day of the weeke or some one day of the weeke or weekly as some translate and the phrase will beare it let every one of you lay BY HIMSELFE in store as God hath prospered him that there be no gatherings when I come Act 14. 25. And when they had ordained them Elders in EVERY CHVRCH From which Authorities only and no other in the New Testament he inferrs That there is but ONE and the selfe same forme of Churchgovernment and Discipline prescribed to all Churches in the world in all ages without the least liberty of varying one from another or from the forme pretended to be thus prescribed But deare Brother what will you say if none of these Scriptures prove any such conclusion but the contrary have you not then injured the Readers and truth hereby Heare then how you are mistaken in them The question you know is not concerning Precepts Doctrines or Rules of faith which are the selfe same to all Persons Churches Ages and binde all alike but only of Church-Government disciplin But hath your first and principall text any relation thereunto No verily but to a meere privat case of conscience then undescided Whether a beleeving Wife might depart from an unbeleeving Husband or a beleeving Husband from an unbeleeving wife without mutuall consent if the unbeleever were willing to cohabit with the other This was the case of conscience then in question at Corinth and propounded specially to the Apostle to whom they Wrote for resolution v. 1. To this the Apostle gives a final desciton in the negative shewing sundry reasons for it v. 10. to 16. then v. 17. he concludes As the Lord hath called every one so let him walke AND SO ORDAINI IN AL CHVRCHES Now what Brother is this private case of conscience to one set forme of Church Disciplin or Government doth the Apostle say that this he ordained to be the very same in all Churches no verily there is no such mention or intention in the Text or Chapter so that the true deduction from hence will be but this absurd Nonsequitur The Apostle by the determination of Gods spirit ordained in every Church that Beleeving Wives or Husbands should not forsake their unbeleeving Consorts if they desired to cohabit with them Ergo he ordained one and the selfe-same unalterable set forme of Church-government and Discipline in all Churches whatsoever Your 2d text makes cleane against you For first the Apostle 1. Cor. 16. 1. 2. doth not say that he gave order for a collection in all Churches alike but only in the Churches of Galatia and there were many Churches else besides them Therefore this extends only to particular Churches not to all And so no proofe of any one universall Government of Discipline prescribed alike to all Secondly It was an order only upon a particular emergent transient occasion which might seldome or never happen againe to wit The present necessity of the Saints at Ierusalem in respect of a dearth and famine there To argue therefore an universall standing Church-government and Discipline from a particular transient occasion not permanent and lasting but contingent and temporany for this particular time and occasion only is very incongruous Thirdly The Apostle here prescribed no publique duty relating to Church-government or Discipline nor yet to be performed in the open Congregation for then there might have beene some vigor in the Text but but only a voluntary preparatory benevolence to be weekly laide apart in private according to Gods blessing on every mans estates as is cleane by the words Vpon the first day of the Week or wekely Let every one of you lay a part BY HIMSELFE not contribute publiquely in the Church in store as God hath prospered him that so there may be no collections when I come Therefore this Action hath no relation at all to Church-government Discipline or ought to be done publikly in the Church Fourthly This collection and the maner of it for every man to lay aside by himselfe some thing weekely according as God hath prospered him was only a preparatory extraordinary collection as the last clause that there may be
severall Iurisdictions to submission and reall obedience especially when just and agreeable to Gods Word or at least to passive whiles in force where unjust or contrary to the Word Hence the publike Laws Ordinances Edicts of Parliaments and general Assemblies of the Estates have in all Kingdomes Ages without the least dispute oblieged regulated all Corporations Societies Persons within their severall jurisdictions because they are the Representative Body and supreame power of those Realms where all are virtually present and consenting when all or the major part at least assent Hence the whole World have ever held the determioations Creeds Canons Decrees of Oeumenicall Nationall or Provinciall Councels ratified by Emperors Kings and Parliaments obligatory in point of jurisdiction to all Churches persons within their jurisdictions And in truth the chiefe end use of Parliaments Councels Synods approved by God and the higher powers ordained by him is not to advise admonish perswade debate or deliver their opinions of doubts errors mischiefes for this every private man hath power to do and containes no stampe of jurisdistion Power or Authority in it But authoritatively to prescribe Lawes Canons Rules and determinations oblieging otherrs to obedience under paine of exemplary censures and penalties Sixthly It cannot be gainsayd but every man and woman in the world considered meerly as such or as single persons stript of all their naturall civill or Ecclesiasticall relations are of equall Authority and have no jurisdiction power or superiority at all one over another no more than fellow servants fellow Citizens or neighbors out of office have over one another yet look upon the selfe-same persons as they stand cloathed with their severall Relations as members of a family Corporation City Kingdome Church and their very relations make them subordinate and lyable to sundry superiour jurisdictions not only by way of counsell but command Thus children servants wives Pulpits are by a naturall relation established by a Morall Law and sundry divine Precepts subject to all the just Lawes Orders commands of their Parents Masters Husbands not onely by way of Counsell or advise which they may obey or reject at pleasure but of Iurisdiction and Authority so farre as to be enforced to obedience and justly punished for disobedience or neglect according to the quality of the offence and contempt Thus inferiours of all sorts in a politicke relation onely as subjects to their Princes to all subordinate Magistrates Officers in their respective places of power Kingdomes to their Parliaments Cities to their Majors Aldermen and Common-Councell Companies to their Masters Wardens and Assistants Souldiers to their Generals Commanders of all Rankes Schollars to their Tutors Colledges to their Rectors mariners to their Masters both by the Law of God Nature Nations Dictat of common reason are subject to all just orders Mandates of these their superiours to which they must yeeld obedience● under paine of such punishments as are answerable to their contempt and disobedience The same rule and reason holds as firmely in all Ecclesiasticall Relations Take severall private Christians as Christians or severall Parishes or Congregations as they are such and it is certain one of them hath no Iurisdiction nor power at all over another in any Ecclesiasticall matters either to prescribe Lawes to or inflict censures upon one another but only a power to exhort admonish reprove advise or assist one another in a brotherly way But yet looke upon the selfe-same particular persons Churches as Members of a Parochiall or Nationall Church and then in this Relation they are and ought to be subject to the just rules precepts Canons Orders of the Ministers and whole Congregation of which they are Actuall Members even in point of conscience and every particular Church must and ought readily to submit to the just Canons Constitutions Orders determinations Ecclesiasticall Censures of the whole Representative Nationall or Provinciall Church Councell ●ynod ratified by Authority of Parliament in a Regular way under paine of Ob●inacy Contempt Disobedience and exemplary punishment there being the selfe-same reason and equity for severall combined Churches in a Councel Synod Presbytery to have a coe●cive power over every particular Church within their limits as for any particular Congregation to claim or exerise a jurisdiction in point of direction or correction over any or every particular member of it Our Independents no doubt will grant that if two or three severall Congregations unite themselves into one Church they do by vertue of this union become all lyable to the Iurisdiction Canons Orders Determinations Censures of that one Church and those who whiles divided had no authority nor power but onely of their owne members have by this union a Iurisdiction over the Members of all these Churches thus eonjoyned into one As it is with several persons united into one Corporation Society Church or when severall powers Or jurisdictions meet and joyne together in one as the Parliaments Commissioners Armies of two Provinces Kingdome in one Parliament Councel Army the Lords Commons Knights and Burgesses of every County Citty Town and Burrough in both Realmes in one Parliament they have by this their union the whole power and authority of both united Kingdomes Armies Parliaments and a joynt Iurisdiction over both which they had not before whiles seperated even as a Major or King hath when as severall Cities Townes Villages Kingdoms as our ancient Saxon Heptarchy are all conjoyned into one City Realm and therby subordinated to one new Iurisdiction If this then must be yeelded to me it will inevitably follow by the selfe-same reason that severall particular Churches being united together in one Synod Councell Assembly Parliament or Presbytery even for this very end and purpose to prescribe such generall Canons erect such a uniforme Church-government and Discipline for the publicke peace and benefit of the Church as shall equally binde all Churches victually present and combined in it must have a lawfull Iuridicall Legislative power in them to make such Laws Canons as shall binde all particular Congregations not onely as advises or brotherly counsels but as vigorous Lawes which subject the particular persons or Churches who transgresse or contemne them to condigne punishment as the reasons Scriptures formerly alleaged to prove that humane Lawes obliege the conscience in point of obedience abundantly demonstrate These uncontrolable verities never yet so much as doubted in any Age till this clearely discover the falsity and vanity of my Brothers objection to which I will give this further direct answer 1. I deny that every particular Church or Congregation in a Christian State where there are many adjacent Churches under the selfe same Civill Government is an absolute compleat independent Body City or Republike of it selfe as is objected to all intents and purposes without dependency on or relation or subordination to any other True it is that in some respects so far as concerns its own private interest it is a compleate body having a Minister
things to make good his Argument 1. That if there were no other particular Church in the world then one as that of Abrahams family should it not be a compleat Church untill there were other Churches on whose jurisdiction it should depend I answer yes But this is not the case nor question We in our Realme blessed be God have in all parts not only one particular christian family church but many thousand Parochiall Churches Congregations as our very Almanacks as well as Cosmographers will informe you What then Brother will you inferre from this sole Church in Abrahams family to our Churches now Will you argue Abraham in his dayes had a compleat absolute Independent Church in his own family onely Ergo now there ought to be such an Independent absolute Church in every family at least where there is a sufficient number requisite to make up a ministeriall body as you interpret it what then will become of your congregationall Churches and our Parochial consisting of many great families they must by this new Doctrine divide themselves presently into so many families or Independent Churches as there are great families in them and then I hope the Master of the family onely not an Independent Minister must be their Paster and Ruler as Abraham was in his and then farewell the office of Minister which some of your Lay Elders exercise without scruple denying the very calling of Ministers and all our Churches too Brother will you argue thus Adam was a compleat and absolute man alone therefore he needed not a helper or wife or family to be joyned to him Suppose you should take a single person who formerly lived alone by and of himselfe without relation to or communion with any other men like a Popish Hermite or Anchorite into your family Church or incorporate him into this City or any company in it will you say that because this man was absolute and under no command at first Ergo he must continue so still in your family Church this City and his company and neither you nor any of them may or can of right enact any thing to controle him I trow not When there were only single Families living remote from others in the world they were absolute and compleate Churches Republikes of themselves but when these single families multiplyed and combined themselves into Villages Cities Provinces Republikes Kingdomes they thereby lost their pristine liberty absolutenesse independencie compleatnesse and of intire small bodies Churches Republikes became onely parts and members of those larger ones to which they were thus combined So it is with particular Mother Churches when there was but one particular Church in the world or in one State or Kingdome the case of all the first Churches planted by the Apostles without any Neighbour Churches to combine with this Church being under no superiour Christian Magistrates was absolute and independent in it selfe there being no other Church to joyne with But if this one Church through the encrease of Christians shall swell so great as to spread it selfe over all the City or Republike wherein it is and so upon necessity must divide it selfe into sundry particular Congregations then all these Churches being under one and the selfe-same Republike and united together under one supreame Civill Magistrate as members of the same Nation Kingdom City Republike and of the self-same nationall or Provinciall Church doe thereupon lose their absolutenes and Independency and become subject to the Power Lawes Canons Determinations Government and Discipline of the whole Nationall Church and Kingdome of which they are but members which to preserve publike peace unity order amity ought constantly to be governed by the self-same generall Ecclesiasticall Lawes setled by the common consent of all their severall National Synods and Parliaments as Civill Lawes are which oblige all But this saith my Brother in the second place takes away the lawfull Jurisdiction and rights of particular Churches Ergo it is not to be admitted I answer first By the like reason you may argue the joyning of many particular persons into one family of divers families into one Parish of sundry Parishes into one City of divers Citie into one State of sundry States and Kingdomes into one Monarchy or Empire of divers Companies and Regiments into one Army of sundry Knights Citizens Burgess●● and Peeres into one Parliament and many Ministers into one Synod deprives them of their Independency their particular Rights Interests and subjects them to a new superiour power Iurisdiction command and to their publicke Lawes and Ordinances Ergo it is unlawfull intollerable and such Corporations Republicks Kingdomes Empires Parliaments Synods ought not to be If this be a good consequence you will subvert all humane Societies Corporations Republicks Synods Parliaments Independent Churches and Families to by like reason ● This takes not away the lawfull rights of particular Congregations but rather improves them for their owne particular and the publick good for Brother I pray informe me which is best of the two for a particular Church or Corporation to be subject only to such Lawes Rules Government and Discipline as shall be made decreed declared most agreeable to the Word of God and fit to be generally received in all Churches by an whole Parliament and Assembly of the most wise ablest and best experienced Christians Nobles Divines after long debate and consideration or by the private rash Opinions and perchance passions humours of two or three private persons perhaps directed swayed by particuler interests relations ends Which is justest safest or most remote from Tyrannicall Arbitrary and Papall Government for Churches States Persons to be all confined to certaine publicke Lawes and Canons enacted by common consent in Parliament limiting who shall be admitted to who secluded from the Congregation Sacrament communion of Saints c. and for what causes offences in certaine c. then to be left Arbitrary to the meer mercy wills determinations of the Ministers and Elders of every particular Congregation or to the pleasures of Princes or some few temporall Magistrates without any Lawes or limits to restrain them We all hold it the greatest happinesse freedome of our Kingdom and the chiefest part of our Priviledge which we enjoy as free-men of England That we neither may nor can be legally bound by any Lawes Canons Taxes or Commands but only such as are made and imposed on us by full consent in Parliament and not subject to the meere Arbitrary Lawes Ordinances wills commands of our Princes Magistrates Iudges Prelates or any other private men And shall it be then held the slavery injury and not rather the liberty or priviledge of particular Churches and their members to be subject only to such Ecclesiasticall Rules Canons Orders Covenants Government and Discipline as shall be publickly agreed on consented to and setled in Parliament to which all Churches Christians shall be equally obliged without exemption then to be left at six and
seven to what Rules Covenants Orders Censures Government Discipline every private Minister Eldership or every major part of a congregation shall arbitrarily prescribe unto their members as suitable to the Word No doubt he that hath a doubtfull case in Law would rather have the advice of many solid Lawyers then one he that is sicke in body will give more credit to the opinion of the whole Colledge of Physitians upon debate then to one or two Doctors or Apothecaries Whence the policies of all States Churches in all Ages have reserved the power of making Lawes and setling matters of greatest moment to their most generall Councells Parliaments and Assemblies not to Cabinet Counsells or Vesteries Brother it is a true rule of Aristotle that men are better governed by Laws which continue constant inpartiall inflexible then by Men whose lusts passions interests and private ends doe for the most part byasse them awry holds as well in Ecclesiasticall as civill Constitutions Therefore this legislative power and Jurisdiction of Parliaments and Synods over particular Churches is so farre from being a prejudice or slavery to them that it is as great a priviledge and freedome as our Parliaments are to our Kingdomes which onely make binding Lawes for all and the only meanes to free us from an arbitrary Government The third thing my Brother objects is That all these Churches where the Apostles Preached were of absolute Authority among themselves respectively and equall one to another not one of them having jurisdiction over another The seven Churches of Asia the Churches of Ephesus Corinth Antioch c. exercising all jurisdiction within themselves alone not being subordinate to themselves or any other as others object And in the Primitive Churches next after Christ for two hundred yeares or more the Government was almost popular and every Church had equall power of ordaining and casting out their Minister and were independent one of another as appeares by the Centurists Cent. 1. c. 7. Tit de Conso●iatione Ecclesiarum and De Synodis privatis To this I answer 1. That there is no such thing in the first Century my Brother quotes nor any thing in the second but that one particular Church and Bishop was not then Lord and soveraign over another but it saith not they were not subject to the determinations of publick Synods 2. That none of the Churches planted by the Apostles were absolute and Independent as you pretend For first they were all subject to the Apostles rules and directions both Churches Ministers Elders as is evident by the whole History of the Acts and all the Epistles written to those Churches after they were planted prescribing Rules and Directions to them for to follow by Pauls sending for the Elders of the Church of Ephesus to him to Miletus and giving them there a charge concerning themselves and their flockes Acts 20. 15. to 36. by ● Cor. 11. 18. That which commeth upon me daily the care of all the Churches c. 1 Cor. 11. 34. The rest will I set in order when I come by his commanding them to deliver the incestuous Corinthian to Sathan 1 Cor. 5. 4 5. Tit. 1. 5 6. Therefore they were not Independent or absolute in themselves but subordinate to the Apostles 2. Though they were not subordinate immediately one to another as one single Parish Church now is not subordinate to another particular Church nor the Churches of one City Republike Kingdom subordinate to another yet they were all subject to a Parliament Synod or combination of many Churches in cases of differences new opinions c. which concern the purity of Religion the suppressing of Schismes the common Peace or weale of all Churches in which all have equall interest as is cleare by the Synodicall determination and decrees of the Apostles Elders and Brethren at Ierusalem who sent Decrees to all the Churches of the Gentiles to observe Acts 15. throughout c. 21. 24 25. which is thus expressed Ch. 16. v. 4 5. And as they went through the Cities they delivered them THE DECREES FOR TO KEEPE THAT WERE ORDAINED OF THE APOSTLES AND ELDERS WHICH WERE AT HIERVSALEM And marke the happy fruites and effects of those Decrees And so was the Church established in the Faith and increased in number daily It was well there were no Independents then they would have quarrelled both this Synod and its Decrees as they doe most strangly now or sought for to avoyd this unavoydable president argued as some doe now What we are Independent Congregations absolute and compleate within our selves what hath the Church or Synod at Jerusalem to doe to make Decrees for us to keepe who are under Christ alone as our onely King Head Governour Law-giver not under Apostles Elders Synods or any other Church who may not Lord it over us Hence then I argue that the Churches then were not Independent because they thus readily embraced submitted to the observation of these Synodall Decrees which our Independent Churches will not stoop to saying Their Churches are absolute intirely their owne who is Lord over them Adde to this that the Apostle in the 1 Cor. 11. 15. argues the unlawfulnesse of womens praying without vailes and of mens wearing long haire ad never longer in England then now in the Church of Corinth from the very custome of other Churches Neverthelesse saith he if any man seens to be contentious in opposing the premises we have no such custome NEITHER THE CHVRCHES OF CHRIST where Paul from the custome of all other Churches of Christ condemnes the irregularity of some in the Church of Corinth whence I argue If the lawful laudable customes only of all other or most of the Churches of Christ ought to oblige a sister Church that is singular and different from them to uniformity with them in things convenient and just as this Text manifests then by like reason the just Decrees and Canons of many Churches combined ought to oblige particular Churches which are under their precincts 3. Though the Church of Corinth did not exercise Jurisdiction or claime a power over the Church of Philippi nor one of the seven Churches exercise a Jurisdiction over the other as they were single Churches and under severall civill Government whose Magistrates then were not Christians yet Paul John and the other Apostles held a jurisdiction over them as their Epistles to them manifest and they all combined in a Synod had power by their Deputies one over another not as particular Churches but as a Synod wherein they were all combined as the second Century cap. 7. Master Rutherford his due Right of Presbitires Art 15. p. 355. to 480. to whom I sha refer the Reader My Brothers Argument therefore is but this in substance The Church of Sepulchres hath no jurisdiction over Saint Androwes nor the Church of Pauls over Westminster not the Church of England over the Church of France or Scotland Ergo a generall Councell or
Nationall Synod wherein these Churches are all combined hath no juridiction or legislative Authority over them nor any other particular congregation under their precincts A doughty Argument much like this in effect The Burrough of Westminster hath no jurisdiction nor power to make binding Lawes for the Burrough of Southwarke not the county of Kent for the county of Middlesex nor any one City County or Burrough in England power to prescribe Lawes to one another Ergo all these counties cities burroughs assembled in Parliament in their Knights and Burgesses have no power to make Lawes to bind any of them nor the Kingdome And what then becomes of our Parliaments Authority and legislative power if this kind of logick be admitted 4. My Brother other Independents generally grant that every Congregation may and ought to give an account of their actions censures proceedings and opinions to another private Church therefore they are not absolute nor simply Independent in regard of other particuler Churches much lesse then in respect of an whole Nationall Synod Parliament or Presbitery which reason others having largely prosecuted I shall but touch 5. I demand whether every particular Church or Congregation whatsoever be such an absolute compleat independent body in it selfe subject only unto Christ c. or only independent Churches and congregations If Independent only I pray shew your Magna Charta for such a peculier priviledge which no Churches else enjoy or challenge but onely yours If all particuler Churches enjoy this priviledge then marke the consequence Papists Arminians Anabaptists Sociniaas Antinomians Arrians Familists and as one Master Williams an Independent affirmes in Print Mahumetans Iewes and all the severall Sects of Religions in the world mustered up by Master Samuel Purchas in his Pilgrimage and Voyages must be absolute and Independent to nor may any Magistrates Parliament Synod make Lawes to regulate reclaime suppresse or punish them because they are subject to none but to Christ and accountable onely to him and their consciences free then every Sectary Schismaticke Hereticke what soever may gather and set up an Independent Church of three or foure families persons in a corner and neither King Parliament nor Presbiteries may question or suppresse them because they are immediatly subject to none but Christ Then persons questioned excommunicated by their congregations or such members of your Churches who either feare your censure or fall into any pett or humour against your Ministers Elders Government may set up a new Church of their owne and so avoyd both your jurisdiction and censures In one word this absurd Paradox would open a large guppe to all Errours Heresies all Sectaries Schismaticks impious practises and opinions without the least impunity restraint or meanes of reformation 6. This conceit derived onely from the Pope himself who claimes this priviledge that he is subject and accountable to none but Christ himselfe in spirituall things and is an Independent Church within himselfe as the Iesuites with others affirme makes every Independent Church or Minister a meere Pope subject and accomptable to Christ alone I beseech you therefore Deare Brother tell me how you can be said to renounce the Pope Popery Antichrist and abolish them out of our Realme to your utmost power according to your Vow and Covenant when as you banish onely one Pope and set up many in making every Independent Minister and Congregation a meer Antichristian Pope exalting it above all that is called God as immediately subiect to none but Christ My Brothers fifth Objection is That Christ should be very unfaithfull carelesse and leave his Church to six and seven if he had not prescribed as exact a Church Government and Discipline for it under the Law as under the Gospel And we should have a mad world he should say Church if it were left to Christian Princes Civill States or Parliaments to set up such a Church-government and Discipline as they should conceive were most suiteable to Gods Word and the Lawes and customes of the Realm and manners of their people I Answer 1. In generall In generall that this is onely words not proofes matters of fact as this now controverted is must be ever proved by reall visible demonstrations not farre-fetched inferences fancies probabilities suggestions or pretended inconveniences of our owne devising Therefore Brother trouble not the world any more with inferences or illustrations of what is not but produce some down-right Scripture proofes of what really is what Philip spake in one sence to our Saviour Shew us the Father and it sufficeth us I shall say to you shew us your Church-Government deliniated prescribed to all Churches in Scripture in all particulars wherein we differ and it shall suffice us but your Inferences from the Tabernacle Temple Ezechiels vision these objected inconveniences neither will nor can satisfie any man who hath any science conscience or reason to guide his choise 2. I answer That Christ hath not been so extreamly negligent or carelesse as to leave his Church under the Gospel at six and seven though he hath not been so exact in prescribing or establishing a set forme of Church-Government and Discipline under the Gospel as he was in the Old Testament in setting downe the patterne of the Tabernacle Arke Temple under the Law as you object For Brother your selfe acknowledge in your Margent pag. 5. 6. upon second thoughts that he hath not done it though you affirme the contrary in your Text Wil you I pray argue that Christ is more carelesse of his Church under the Gospel then under the Law because the manner and time of Circumcision eating the Passeover consecrating of Priests with all their accoutrements the forme of the Tabernacle Temple with all the Services Sacrifices thereto belonging are more exactly and particularly set downe and prescribed in the Old Testament then the manner time or forme of Baptisme administring and receiving the Lords Supper ordination of Ministers the model or fashion of our Churches and their necessary furniture are in the New or because the use of solemne Vowes and Covenants your great Diana the manner of solemnizing Fasts sanctifying the Sabbath Feastivalls Nationall Assemblies c. are more exactly delineated and prescribed in the Old Testament then the New Or which soares higher was Christ more carelesse of his Church before then under the Law because he gave them not the Law in writing as he did in after times or carelesse of the Church under the Law because he gave them not the Gospel then but Law alone Brother your self acknowledge that Christ hath left his Churches childrens consciences more free under the Gospel then they were under the Law exempting them from the Ceremoniall Law and all humane Ordinances to which they were formerly obliged Is he therefore carelesse or unfaithfull I beseech you Brother take heede how you cast dirt in Christs owne face by such strained inferences or charge your Brother with no lesse
then Heresie or hereticall Doctrin by such extravagant inferences and incoherent Arguments for fear you dishonour both your Master and your self 3. Though Christ hath left no absolute exact forme of Church-Government in Scripture for all Churches and Ages yet he hath left his Word to be a light to the feete and a Lanthorne to the pathes of all his Saints and Churches and said downe such generall Presidents rules and directions therein as may serve for ordering directing and regulating of all Churches herein yea he hath given us some more particular rules for some things which concerne the Government of his Churches The Scripture hath generall Rules for our faith life manners thoughts words actions apparell eating drinking praying preaching receiving the Sacrament c. applicable to all particular cases and occurrences concerning them though not particular punctuall rules for deciding all those cases of conscience and controversies that frequently arise concerning them yet Christ is not unfaithfull because he hath left his Church sufficient rules and meanes of salvation in generall or particular to bring it safe to heaven 4 The providing of godly and faithfull Ministers Magistrates and Governours of the Church to put good Laws Disciplin and Government in execution is a great part of Christs charge and care as well as providing his Word and a Government for his Church Will you charge Christ then with negligence and leaving his Church to six and seven because every Minister of Christ hath not the selfe-same measure of gifts and endowments to discharge his Ministery or because some Ministers are more negligent in their places then others and some sheep are left oft-times without a Shepheard or committed to a Iudas a Thiefe or to Wolve● false Teachers Seducers which teare and devoure instead of feeding them or because he set not up and maintained this forme of Church Government you now contend for as his and none else beside in all Churches for so many hundred yeares together but reserved this honour in this latter age to some of you or rather to the Anabaptists and Brownists your Predecessors herein to advance it Brother you may easily discerne by this where your owne pretended inconveniences and inferences will drive you at the last if you rely upon them I beseech you therefore as a loving Brother to forbeare them for the future 4. Whereas you object We should have a mad world of it if Civill States Magistrates Kings and Parliaments should set up such a Government 〈◊〉 they conceived to be agreeable to Gods Word and the good Lawes and Customes of their Realmes I answer 1. That it is your own position that every particular man and Church ought to walke according to the rule of their own consciences and judgement not anothers Christ only being Lord of their consciences If then a whole Kingdome Parliament Church or Realme shall conceive and be perswaded in their consciences that such and such a Church Government is most consonant to Gods Word most suiteable to their condition and therefore shall upon solemne debate after much seeking of God by Prayer and Fasting make choise of this government before another as by electing a Presbyteriall rejecting an Independent way What madnesse or inconvenience meer slavery tyranny humane inv●ntions superstitions or corruption will this introduce Shall they be Hereticks presently for such a choise as you define them Shall private men have more liberty of choise or conscience then whole Nations Synods Parliaments or more wisedome temper knowledge discretion conscience then they Indeed I have read of one Parliament stiled the Mad and another the unlearned because there were no Lawyers in it and no doubt both Parliaments Councells Synods generall Assemblies may and doe sometimes erre and that grosly as well as private persons or congregations But doubtlesse all reasonable men will and must acknowledge that two are better then one a whole Court of Iustice lesse liable to errour and corruption then a particul●r Judge a whole Parliament then a Committee an whole Synod then a private Conventicle or congregation Then tell me in sober sadnesse good Brother whether your Independent Assertion That every particular Minister hath power to gather and set up a Church of his owne Independent from any other and to choose such a Discipline Government to themselves as they CONCEIVE to be most suiteable to Gods Word though in truth it be not so but a meer CONCEITE as I feare your New way is That particular Christians have power to unite themselves into a Church and elect a Minister and Government of their owne choise most agreeable as they thinke to the Word And that every Sect and Person ought to have free liberty of conscience in the exercise of what they beleeve Or my Position be likely est to produce more madnesse in the world or mischiefes in the Church Certainely it will be a madder world and Church too indeed when every private Minister and Christian may follow their owne opinions fancies crochets waies every Sectary set up his owne congregation sect and vent his owne erronious schismaticall Opinions without control when every man shall have priviledge to doe What seemes right in his owne eyes as if there were no King in Israel no Parliament in England when every Anabaptist Enthusiast or brainsick Melancholico shall not only build Churches in the ayre different from all others but set them up openly in our Cities Counties Kingdomes without impediment in contempt of Lawes Parliaments all Civill or Ecclesiasticall Authority as too many I feare doe now and I hope the High Court of Parliament will remedy it in due time because they deem their owne fancies Gospel their owne Juventions Christs Oracles Certainly the world and Church will both be mad in good earnest when such a licentiousnesse shall be proclaimed under the Notion of Christian Liberty every mans own private way christned with the Name of Christs Kingdom c. though it hath small affinity with it The God of peace order of his infinite mercie preserve us safe from this Maniaca Insania this deadly madnesse into which we are running and hath already desperately seized upon the Braines and hearts of many My Brothers sixth Objection is this That Parliaments Councells Synods are not now infallible but subject unto errour many of them having erred and that grosly in former and late times That neither Parliament nor Assembly can now say as that Synod Act. 15. 28. It seemeth good to us and to the Holy Ghost they being not endued with an infallible spirit Therefore they can make no binding Determinations Lawes Canons Decrees in any Ecclesiasticall matters to oblige any particular Churches or christians Good Brother writes he for all your punctuall quotations of that Scripture Acts 15. you doe not all this while tell us that which is the maine of all which we finde in the 28. verse IT SEEMED GOOD TO THE HOLY
reason all their Lawes Canons Edicts should be obeyed as just and good but such wherein there is apparant errour and pregnant contrariety to the Scrip●●re 4. All determinations of men not immediatly directed by an infallible spirit ●ven in Church-affaires ought not to be condemned but submitted to since Paul resolved some things of his kind by his owne private spirit vvithout the spirit of God especially inspiring him to which yet we all submit as is clear by 1. Cor. 7. ● 11 to 40. For that clause concerning the holy Ghost I shall give you a very full answer to it First it is cleare by Acts 15. 6. 7. 12 13. 22 23. that those who used this expression It seemed good to the holy Ghost and to us were not only Apostles indued with in infallible spirit but likevvise the ELDERS BRETHREN AND WHOLE CHURCH OR Synod then assembled at Ierusalem Now Brother you cannot say nor prove that all the Elders Brethren and whole Church of Ierusalem were infallibly inspired yet they all used this Language then as well as the Apostles therefore by the self same Reason Parliaments Synods Councells may do it now especially where they ●arnestly seck to God for the Holy Ghosts direction assistance ayde by fasting and prayer Secondly God hath commanded all Christians earnestly to pray for and hath promised to give the holy Ghost and his Spirit to those that ask him yea the Scripture is expresse that the Holy Ghost and Spirit doth not only sanctifie comfort live dwell and abide in the hearts soules of Christs Ministers and people for ever but avers that their very bodies are the Temples of the holy Ghost which dwelleth in them that he shall lead his Church and people into all truth why therfore they may not now say when Assembled in Parliament or a Synod with sincere hearts desirous to reforme and settle Church-government as near as may be to the Scripture It seemes good to the Holy Ghost and us especially when they have found an extraordinary providence and assistance from Heaven which they have importuned in the work as well as the Apostles Elders and Brethren then since we and they have all one and the self same spirit though in a different measure by which spirit we are all Baptized into one body and have all been made to drinke into ONE SPIRIT I cannot discerne Thirdly all Christians are expresly commanded to pray in the Holy Ghost to pray in the Spirit and sing in the Spirit in which duties the Spirit helpeth our infirmities yea the Scriptures are direct that Christians are not only Regenerated quickned sanctified by the Holy Ghost and Spirit of Christ and receive the earnest and first fruits thereof but that they are lead by the Spirit Walk in the Spirit live in the Spirit worship God in the Spirit speak and blesse God in the Spirit yea it is the great promise under the Gospel that God will powre out his spirit upon all flesh that they shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost and be filled with him whence we read that Steven and sundry others who were not Apostle● were filled with the Holy Ghost full of the Holy Ghost partakers of the holy Ghost and I hope Brother you and all other godly Ministers do both pray and preach in through and by the Holy Ghost and spirit of Christ yea I doubt not but you inform your new Proselites Members how by the spirits direction you gathered your Independent Church prescribed them your new Covenant Discipline Government that you exhort teach instruct comfort wounded soules and resolve their scrupulous consciences doubts by the assistance and guidance of the Holy Ghost else all you doe say prescribe resolve is to little purpose and the work of your Ministry wil be very unprofitable disclaim but this and all your new Congregation will soone disclaim you for their Minister they and we accounting all those who either do or cannot pray and preach in and by the spirit of God with some good evidence and demonstration thereof unsavery ●alt fit for nothing but to be cast out and trampled under 〈◊〉 of all men as many hundreds of such have been so served of late If then all this be undenyable Scripture and experimentall Truth why a Parliament of Godly Religious Lords and Commons with an Assembly of Reverend Divines now assisted with the prayers of all godly people to settle a Church-Government Discipline Worship according to the will and word of Christ in all things may not engrave this Motto It seemeth good to the Holy Ghost and to us to order and settle things thus c. on all their determinations resolutions as Councels have usually done in former time from this very Te●t you cannot re●der the least dram of reason If you alledge which is all that can be Objected that perchance all or the greatest part of the Parliament and Assembly are not i●dued with the sanctifying spirit of God therefore they cannot use this Language I answer First this is onely known to God not you who onely kn●weth who are his and hath made you no Iudges of their hear●s whose persons for the most part I dare say you do not ●●miliarly know Secondly admit there may be some few among them who have not Gods sanctifying spirit yet I doubt not but very many if not the major part of them have as their zealous actions and proceedings evidence to all the World in despite of all jealou●ies or 〈◊〉 and the 〈◊〉 or a great part being such they may now as wel use this expression 〈◊〉 the Apostles Brethr●n and whole Synod of Ierusalem whom you dare not ●ver to be all reall Saints endued with the infallible and sanctifying spirit of God So as Brother you might well have forb●rn that sco●●e you put upon our Assembly and Parliament A Cardinall in the C●●clave at Viterbium after almost 3. yeers agitation As many yeers AS WE HAVE BEEN ABOVT TO SET VP A REFORMATION AND THE FOVNDATION NOT YET LAID each Cardinall ambitiously aspiring to be the Pope one of them r●se up and said Domine c Let us uncover the roos of this chamber seeing that the Holy Ghost cannot get in unto us through so many Tiles which I will not aggravate Thirdly it is your own Dogmaticall Resolution That in the Synod at Jerusalem onely the Apostles were guided by the Holy Ghost and an infallible spirit not all the Elders Synod and Brethren who did but give their consent to those Decrees as Softines Tychicus Timothy and other Brethren joyned with Paul in his 〈◊〉 Therefore because the Apostles who had the leading Votes were thus guided and they consented they all joyned in this Language It seemed good to the Holy Ghost and us If then the Major or leading part of the Parliament and Assembly be now indued with Gods Holy Spirit they may all by like reason joyne in the
HERETIQVES limiting the maner of proceeding against them defining what shal be heresie how it shall be punished and abridging the Authority of the Bishops and Canon Law ch 16. concernes Pluralities ch 19. containes the submission of the Clergy Convocation to the King declares the Kings supremacy in causes Ecclesiasticall the impotency of the Clergy or Convocation to make or promulge any Canons or Ecclesiasticall constituti●ns or to debate any thing in Convocation without his Royall Lycence and approbation The Nullity and invalidity of the Canon Law abolisheth all appeales to Rome and Authorizeth 32. persons whereof halfe to be of the Clergy the other halfe of THE LAITY to survay the Canon Law and to compile a body of the Canon Law to be authorized by the King under his Great Seale by vertue of this Act for to be the only Canon Law to be used within this Realme Chap. 20. takes away the payment of any Annates o● first fruits to the Bishop of Rome nullifies his usurped power and Buls settles the forme of electing and consecrating Archbishops and Bishops within this Realme and plentifully manifests the Kings and Parliaments Jurisdictions in Ecclesiasticall affaires chap. 21. doth the like exonerating the Kings Subjects from all exactions and Impositions heretofore payed to the Sea of Rome and enabling the Archbishop of Canterbury and his Officers to grant all Licences and dispensations within the Realme which were formerly granted at Rome only The Statute is worthy perusall consideration fully demonstrating the power of the Parliament in Church affaires 26. H. 8. c. 1. declares the Kings Highnesse to be supreme head of the Church of England under Christ making it a part of his Royall Title and to have Ecclesiasticall authority to redresse and reforme all Errors Heresies and abuses in the Church punishable by any spirituall or ecclesiasticall Law Chap. 3. enacts The payment of the first fruits of all Dignities Benefices promotions spirituall and tenthes to the King and his Heires abolishing the Popes usurpations and authority herein ch 13. abolisheth sanctuarie in cases of High Treason ch 14. Authorizeth the nomination and consecration of suffragan Bishops in sundry places of this Realme and both creates and limits their authority chap. 15. takes away some exactions of spirituall men within the Archdeaconry of Richmond 27. H. 8. c. 8. limits that the Kings spirituall Subjects shall pay no Tithes whiles they are in their first fruits ch 15. authorizeth the King to nominate 32. persons halfe of the Clergy the other of the Laity for the perusall and making of Ecclesiasticall Lawes and manifests the Convocations invalidity to make such lawes or Canons ch 19. Limiteth and abolisheth Sanctuaries and sanctuary persons ch 20. containes an Order touching the paying of Tithes throughout the Realme ch 21. Limits the maner of payment of Tythes within the City of London ch 27. suppresseth divers Monasteries Priories and Religious Houses vesteth their revenues in the King and erects the Court of Augmentations 28. H. 8. ch 10. extinguisheth thes authority of the Bishop of Rome prescribes an Oath of abjuration of it and Popery together with the Popes usurpations and excellently sets forth the Kings supreamacy the Parliaments authority in matters ecclesiasticall as you may read in the Act worthy perusall ch 11. enacts Restitution of the first fruits in time of vacation to the next incumbent ch 13. compells spirituall persons to residence upon their livings ch 16. Releaseth such as have obtained pretended Licences and dispensations from the Sea of Rome 31. H 8. c. 6. enables such as were Religious persons to purchase lands to sue and be sued in al maner of Actions which they were disabled formerly to do by the Common Canon Law ch 9. Enables the King to make Bishops by his Letters Patents only and to erect new Bishopricks which he did ch 13. disolves all Monasteries and religious Houses and vests them in the King wherein you may behold much of the Kings and Parliaments power in Church businesses ch 14. For abolishing of diversity of opinions in matters of Religion most fully and exactly demonstrates the Kings and Parliaments jurisdictions in matters of Religion as the whole Act sufficiently manifests though the Articles therein defined were erronious and the Act too cruell and bloudy 32. H. 8. cap. 8. provides for the true payment of Tythes and offerings chap. 10. containes the punishment of incontinent Priests and of women offending with them ch 12. concernes Sanctuaries and the priviledges of Churches and Church-Yards ch 15. prescribes the manner of proceeding against Heretickes and impugners of the Act for abolishing of enormious opinions in Christian Religion chap. 23 24. concernes Accounts of Bishops and subsidies granted by the Clergie chap. 25. Dispences the Kings marriage with the Lady Iane chap. 24. Dissolves the Hospitalls of Saint Johns of Ierusalem in England and Ireland for supporting and maintaining the supremacy and jurisdiction of the Bishop of Rome contrary to their duty and Allegiance chap. 26. Intitled An act concerning true opinions and Declaration of Christs Religion is most pregnant to our present purpose which you may peruse chap. 38. Concerning precontracts of marriages and degrees of consanguinity is likewise a most punctuall Act for the Kings and Parliaments Ecclesiasticall power and chap 44. 45 47. good evidences of it 33. H. 8. chap. 15. 27 28 29 30 31 32. Enabling Religious persons to sue and bee sued severing the Bishopricks of CHESTER and Isle of MAN from the jurisdiction of CANTERBURY to the See of Yorke making the Church of Whitgate a Popish Church by it selfe and severing it from the Parish of Over which I wish our Independents to observe and to learne from this and other Acts that no new Churches or Parishes can be erected legally but by act of Parliament which none of their Churches are 34. and 35. H. 8. c. 1. intituled An act for The advancement of true Religion and For the abolishing of the contrary is most pertinent to our purpose and c. 15. 17 19 35. H. 8. c. 9. for ratification of the Kings stile and Title of Defender of the Faith and supreame head of the Church of England and Ireland ch 6. Concerning the qualification of the Statute of the 6. Articles c. 16. concerning the examination of the Canon Lawes by 32. persons halfe of the Clergie and halfe of the temporalty to be named by the Kings Majesty during his life to compile a body of the Canon Law to bee used in the Realme 37. H. 8. c. 4. 12. but especially ch 17. That Doctors of civill Law may execute Ecclesiasticall jurisdiction though Laymen and married a Law worthy reading and chap. 21. For the union of Churches not exceeding the value of 5l which could not be done but by Act of Parliament are all most pregnant evidences of the Kings and Parliaments indubitable Ecclesiasticall jurisdictions in matters of Discipline Religion Church-government and all Church affaires whatsoever The Statutes made in King
Edward the 6. his Reigne are most punctuall and pegnant evidences hereof as namely 1. Edw. 6. ch 11. For administring the Sacrament in both kindes therein proved necessary by sundry Texts of Scripture and punishing such persons as shall unreverently speake against the Sacrament with Temporall and Ecclesiasticall censures ch 2. concerning the election and creation of Bishops by the Kings Letters Patents and what Processe and Seales they shall use declaring that they have no Ecclesiasticall jurisdiction but meerely from the King ch 9. For uniting certaine Churches within the City of Yorke ch 12. which abolisheth Sanctuaries and Clergy in some cases 2. and 3. E. 6. ch 1. For the Vniformity of service and the administration of the Sacraments throughout the Realme ch 13. For the true payment of Tythes ch 19. For abstinence from flesh ch 20. Concerning Recusants ch 23. For positive Lawes made against the Mariage of Priests ch 23. The repeale of a Statute touching Precontracts of Mariage 3. and 4. E. 6. ch 10. For the abolishing and putting away of diverse superstitious Popish Books and Images chap. 11. That the Kings Majesty may nominate and appoint 32. persons halfe Clergy-men and halfe Laymen to peruse and make Ecclesiasticall Lawes ch 12. For the manner of Ordaining Ecclesiasticall Ministers and Consecrating Bishops ch 15. Against fond and phantasticall Prophecies 5. and 6. E. 6. ch 1. For the uniformity of Common Prayer and administration of the Sacraments ch 3. For the keeping of Holy-dayes and Fasting dayes ch 4. Against fighting and quarelling in Churches and Church-Yards ch 12. For the lawfulnesse of Priests Mariage and legitimation of their children chap. 13. Touching Religious persons and c. 23. Against Vsurie All these are clearely Ecclesiasticall Acts yet made by Parliament The Statutes in Queene Maries Reigne though of a different Religion from her brother and a zealous Pontifician sufficiently evidence the jurisdiction of our Princes and Parliaments in matters of the Church and Religion witnesse 1. Mar. Parl. 1. Ses 2. Chap. 2. Repealing diverse acts-made touching Religion in King Edward the 6. his Raigne and setting up Masse and the old Lyturgies againe chap. 2. Against Offendors of Preachers and other Ministers in the Church or Church-Yard or interrupting them in their Sermons or saying Masse under paine of imprisonment fines and Ecclesiasticall censures chap. 15. For re-edifying the parish Church of Saint Ellins in Stangate 1. Mariae Par. 2. c. 1. Declaring That the Regall power of this Realme is in the Queenes Majesty as fully and absolutely as ever it was in any of her most Noble Progenitors Kings of this Realme chap. 3. Being an Act of Repeale of two severall acts in the 7. yeare of King Edward the 6. touching the dissolution of the Bishoprick of Durham Chap. 9. Touching Ordinances Rules c. in Cathedrall Churches and Schooles c. 10. Repealing a statute for the uniting of the parish Churches of Onger and Greensted in the County of Essex 1. and 2. Phil. and Mary chap. 6. For the reviving of three Statutes made for the punishment Of Heresies and that with forseiture of Lands imprisonment and death in some cases chap. 8. Intituled an Act repealing all Statutes Articles and provisions made against the See Apostolike of Rome since the 20. yeare of King H. 8. and restoring the Bishops with their Courts offices the Pope himselfe to their former usurped jurisdictions in England ratifying this Popes very Bulles and dispensations to make them valid and setling the whole affaires of the Church of England chap. 9. 20. For the punishing of traiterous Sermons and Prayers against the Queene chap. 17. Concerning leases of some spirituall persons and 2. and 3. Phil. and Mary chap. 4. For the extinguishment of first fruits c. All Ecclesiasticall Statutes In Queen Elizabeths happy Raigne there are sundry Statutes abundantly manifesting her own and the Parliaments supreame Iurisdictions and Legislative power in matters of Religion Church-government Discipline c. as namely 1 Eliz. c. 1. An Act restoring to the Crowne the ancient Jurisdiction OVER THE STATE ECCLESIASTICALL SPIRITVALL and abolishing all fortaigne power repugnant to the same which gives the Queen her heires and successors all manner of Ecclesiasticall Iurisdiction in and over all Ecclesiasticall persons and causes and power to correct redresse and reform all manner of HERESIE SCHISME ERRORS ABVSES OFFENCES ECCLESIASTICALL prescribes the oath of Supremacy which all are to take and most Independents have formerly taken wherein they do utterly testifie and declare in their consciences that the Queen and her Successours are the onely supreame Governours of this Realme and other their Dommions as well IN ALL SPIRITVALL OR ECCLESIASTICALL THINGS OR CAVSES as temporall c. which jurisdiction of theirs they sweare to their power to assist and defend Which oath if any refuse to take hee shall forseit all his Ecclesiasticall promotions and temporall offices This Act likewise abolisheth the Popes jurisdiction under pain of a praemunire and other mulcts against the maintainers of it It determines what shall be adjudged HERESIE and what not namely Only such matter and cause as heretofore hath been determined ordered and adjudged to be heresie by the authority of the Canonicall Scriptures o● by the first foure generall-Councels or any of them or by any other generall Councell wherein the same was declared heresie by the expresse and plain words of the Canonicall Scripture or such as hereafter shall be ordered IVDGED OR DETERMINED TO BE HERESIE BY THE HIGH COVRT OF PARLIAMENT OF THIS REALME with the assent of the Clergy in their Convocation to wit by way of assistance and advice cumulatively not negatively as if their assent were simply necessary So as by this Act the Parliament is made the sole proper Iudge what is or shal be reputed punished as heresie what not how it shal be punished the highest point of Ecclesiasticall jurisdiction Ch. 2. For the uniformity of Common prayer and service in the Church and administration of the Sacraments enjoyning conformity under temporall and Ecclesiasticall punishments is an irrefragable proofe of the Parliaments Ecclesiasticall power in all Church matters and 1 Eliz. c. 3. 4. 6. 5 Eliz. c. 1. For the assurance of the Queens royall power over all States and Subjects within her Highnesse Dominions ch 23. For the due executing of Writs de Excommunicato capiendo ch 28. For translating of the Bible and divine Service into the Welch tongue 8 Eliz. c. 1. Declaring the manner of making and Corsecrating the Archbishops Bishops and Ministers of this Realm to be good lawfull and perfect ratifying the Booke of common Prayer and of Ordination together with the Queens Soveraigne Ecclesiasticall Authority 13 Eliz. c. 2. Against the bringing in and putting in execution of Bulls and other instruments of the See of Rome chap. 8. Against Usury ch 19. concerning Dilapidations c. 12. To reforme certain disorders touching Ministers of the Church ratifying the 39.