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A68730 Certain general reasons, prouing the lawfulnesse of the Oath of allegiance, written by R.S. priest, to his priuat friend. Whereunto is added, the treatise of that learned man, M. William Barclay, concerning the temporall power of the pope. And with these is ioyned the sermon of M. Theophilus Higgons, preached at Pauls Crosse the third of March last, because it containeth something of like argument Sheldon, Richard, d. 1642?; Barclay, William, 1546 or 7-1608. De potestate Papæ. English.; Higgons, Theophilus, 1578?-1659. Sermon preached at Pauls Crosse the third of March, 1610.; Barclay, John, 1582-1621. 1611 (1611) STC 22393; ESTC S117169 172,839 246

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connivencie_n of_o the_o ancient_a pope_n and_o the_o vanity_n thereof_o discover_v chap._n 12._o that_o the_o pope_n have_v no_o authority_n not_o so_o much_o as_o indirect_o over_o christian_a prince_n in_o temporal_a matter_n prove_v both_o by_o the_o special_a prerogative_n of_o a_o absolute_a prince_n and_o also_o by_o the_o ground_n of_o the_o catholic_n and_o the_o inconueniency_n ensue_a of_o the_o admittance_n thereof_o chap._n 13._o he_o undertake_v bellarmine_n his_o proof_n propound_v his_o first_o main_a reason_n with_o the_o media_n whereby_o bellarmine_n enforce_v the_o same_o chap._n 14._o he_o take_v away_o the_o ground_n which_o bellarmine_n lay_v for_o the_o strengthen_n of_o his_o first_o proposition_n and_o lay_v open_v the_o lightness_n and_o vanity_n thereof_o chap._n 15._o he_o amplifi_v the_o answer_n to_o the_o last_o ground_n lay_v by_o bellarmine_n and_o explain_v in_o what_o term_n of_o relation_n or_o subordination_n the_o power_n both_o civil_a and_o 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