Selected quad for the lemma: church_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
church_n	answer_v	argument_n	prove_v	3,101	5	5.5305	4	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A67650	A revision of Doctor George Morlei's judgment in matters of religion, or, An answer to several treatises written by him upon several occasions concerning the Church of Rome and most of the doctrines controverted betwixt her, and the Church of England to which is annext a treatise of pagan idolatry / by L.W.	Warner, John, 1628-1692.	1683 (1683)	Wing W912; ESTC R14220	191,103	310

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threaten_v hell_n &_o damnation_n to_o torrify_v they_o they_o be_v self_n condemn_v &_o yet_o be_v unconcern_v this_o oppose_v know_v truth_n be_v a_o sin_n against_o the_o holy_a ghost_n impossible_a to_o be_v forgive_v because_o it_o be_v moral_o impossible_a to_o be_v repent_v this_o be_v prove_v by_o reason_n confirm_v by_o experience_n &_o deliver_v by_o the_o apostle_n which_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o heresiark_n &_o such_o as_o school_v man_n call_v formal_a heretic_n yet_o i_o know_v many_o &_o i_o hope_v most_o of_o those_o who_o live_v in_o schism_n or_o heresy_n do_v so_o either_o by_o misfortune_n of_o their_o birth_n or_o education_n or_o by_o weakness_n of_o reason_n or_o strength_n of_o passion_n or_o fear_v of_o punishment_n or_o love_n of_o good_n of_o fortune_n rather_o than_o hatred_n to_o the_o church_n or_o love_n to_o heresy_n &_o therefore_o be_v not_o formal_a heretic_n or_o

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or_o which_o be_v all_o one_o confound_v the_o hierarchy_n of_o the_o church_n cast_v away_o five_o sacrament_n &_o deprive_v the_o other_o two_o of_o their_o efficacy_n &_o reduce_v they_o to_o the_o condition_n of_o jewish_a rite_n to_o be_v beggarly_a element_n deny_v the_o universal_a redemption_n banish_v free_a will_n introduce_v stoic_a fate_n change_v hope_v into_o presumption_n a_o sin_n against_o the_o holy_a ghost_n &_o so_o commend_v faith_n as_o to_o destroy_v charity_n make_v good_a &_o bad_a work_n indifferent_a by_o deprive_v those_o of_o merit_n &_o these_o of_o offend_v god_n in_o his_o elect_a etc._n etc._n beside_o many_o point_n of_o discipline_n which_o tho'_o less_o considerable_a than_o those_o of_o faith_n yet_o be_v not_o to_o be_v neglect_v which_o no_o church_n of_o england_n man_n will_v deny_v see_v he_o defend_v those_o retain_v in_o it_o against_o the_o presbiterian_o if_o these_o be_v small_a point_n what_o be_v great_a and_o if_o these_o be_v not_o 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