consilii_fw-la angelus_n &_o per_fw-la incarnationis_fw-la mysterium_fw-la venit_fw-la in_o mundum_fw-la stetitqae_fw-la ante_fw-la altar_n id_fw-la est_fw-la in_fw-la conspectu_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la diony_n carthus_n in_o apoc._n 8._o catholic_n doctor_n etc._n etc._n by_o this_o angel_n understand_v christ_n who_o be_v the_o angel_n of_o the_o great_a counsel_n and_o which_o by_o the_o mystery_n of_o his_o incarnation_n come_v into_o the_o world_n and_o stand_v upon_o the_o altar_n of_o the_o cross_n blasius_n 2._o blasius_n nec_fw-la vero_fw-la rectè_fw-la quidam_fw-la è_fw-la recentioribus_fw-la argumentantur_fw-la angelum_fw-la istum_fw-la christum_fw-la esse_fw-la non_fw-la posse_fw-la quod_fw-la christus_fw-la nunquam_fw-la angelus_n absolute_a dicitur_fw-la satis_fw-la enim_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la ex_fw-la consequentibus_fw-la facile_fw-la intelligi_fw-la potest_fw-la christum_fw-la esse_fw-la quae_fw-la nifi_n christ_n alteri_fw-la aptè_fw-la accommodari_fw-la non_fw-la possunt_fw-la cujus_fw-la enim_fw-la alterius_fw-la est_fw-la universae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la incensa_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la orationes_fw-la in_o thuribulo_fw-la aurto_fw-la tanta_fw-la majestatis_fw-la specie_fw-la patri_fw-la offer_n cujus_fw-la praeterquam_fw-la christi_fw-la fuit_fw-la de_fw-la igne_fw-la quo_fw-la thuribulum_n aureum_fw-la eaat_fw-mi impletum_fw-la partem_fw-la in_o terras_fw-la misisse_fw-la easque_fw-la divini_fw-la amoris_fw-la igne_fw-la inflammasse_o etc._n etc._n apuaret_fw-la autem_fw-la christus_fw-la sacerdotis_fw-la personam_fw-la gerens_fw-la ut_fw-la ejus_fw-la pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la apud_fw-la patrem_fw-la intercessio_fw-la atque_fw-la interpellatio_fw-la monstretur_fw-la vieg_n in_o apoc._n 8._o sec._n 2._o viegas_n a_o jesuit_n we_o may_v easy_o perceive_v that_o this_o angel_n be_v christ_n because_o the_o thing_n here_o speak_v of_o he_o can_v agree_v to_o no_o other_o but_o christ_n for_o who_o but_o he_o can_v with_o so_o great_a majesty_n offer_v up_o to_o god_n the_o incense_n that_o be_v the_o prayer_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n who_o beside_o he_o be_v able_a out_o of_o the_o perfume_a pann_n to_o send_v down_o into_o the_o earth_n the_o fiery_a coal_n of_o divine_a charity_n and_o to_o inflame_v people_n with_o the_o burn_a grace_n of_o the_o holy_a spirit_n with_o these_o agree_n 8._o agree_n ambros_n super_fw-la apoc._n vis_fw-fr 3._o cap._n 8._o ambrose_n 2._o ambrose_n primus_fw-la in_o apoc._n 8._o biblioth_n sanct._n colon._n to_o 9_o p._n 2._o primasius_n 393._o primasius_n ansbert_n in_o apoc._n 8._o bibl._n sanct._n col._n to_o 9_o p._n 393._o authertus_n 2._o authertus_n bed_n 5._o super_fw-la apoc._n lib._n 2._o beda_n 8._o beda_n haimo_fw-it in_o apoc._n 8._o haimo_n card._n haimo_n hugo_n card._n hugo_n cardinalis_fw-la and_o the_o gloss_n christ_n gloss_n glossae_fw-la totum_fw-la legunt_fw-la hoc_fw-la de_fw-la christ_n but_o if_o it_o be_v grant_v that_o this_o angel_n be_v a_o create_v or_o minister_a spirit_n it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o angel_n understand_v the_o secret_a cogitation_n of_o man_n heart_n any_o far_a than_o the_o same_o be_v manifest_v by_o sign_n neither_o be_v it_o consequent_a that_o people_n ought_v to_o pray_v unto_o they_o for_o priest_n offer_v up_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o church_n to_o god_n and_o yet_o no_o man_n do_v therefore_o invocate_v priest_n it_o be_v record_v of_o the_o saint_n enjoy_v the_o same_o blissful_a vision_n with_o the_o angel_n ibid._n object_n ibid._n that_o they_o have_v golden_a vial_n full_a of_o odour_n which_o be_v the_o prayer_n of_o saint_n that_o be_v of_o the_o faithful_a upon_o earth_n 1._o answ_n answ_n the_o reverend_a dr._n hammond_n and_o many_o other_o expositor_n ancient_a and_o modern_a tell_v we_o that_o the_o four_o and_o twenty_o elder_n be_v not_o the_o member_n of_o the_o church_n triumphant_a as_o t._n g._n without_o proof_n assert_n but_o the_o bishop_n and_o the_o elder_n of_o the_o church_n militant_a who_o office_n it_o be_v to_o present_v the_o prayer_n and_o praise_n of_o the_o church_n to_o god_n here_o it_o be_v more_o plain_o declare_v say_v beda_n that_o the_o beast_n and_o the_o elder_n be_v the_o church_n redeem_v by_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n and_o gather_v from_o the_o nation_n also_o he_o show_v in_o what_o heaven_n they_o be_v say_v they_o shall_v reign_v upon_o earth_n so_o ambrose_n on_o the_o apcalyp_v and_o haimo_n 2._o vossius_fw-la will_v tell_v you_o that_o here_o be_v nothing_o intend_v but_o eucharistal_n prayer_n not_o petitory_a and_o that_o the_o four_o and_o twenty_o elder_n only_o intimate_v that_o the_o whole_a family_n of_o christian_n in_o earth_n and_o heaven_n do_v render_v continual_a doxology_n to_o god_n for_o the_o redemption_n of_o the_o world_n by_o his_o son_n the_o psalmist_n say_v i_o will_v sing_v unto_o thou_o in_o the_o sight_n or_o presence_n of_o the_o angel_n psal_n 137.2_o 418._o object_n p._n 418._o the_o angel_n of_o the_o lord_n say_v o_o lord_n of_o host_n how_o long_o will_v thou_o not_o have_v mercy_n on_o jerusalem_n and_o on_o the_o city_n of_o judah_n against_o which_o thou_o have_v have_v indignation_n these_o threescore_o and_o ten_o year_n and_o michael_n be_v a_o great_a prince_n which_o stand_v for_o the_o child_n of_o god_n people_n ergo_fw-la the_o angel_n know_v the_o secret_n of_o the_o heart_n and_o be_v acquaint_v with_o the_o prayer_n that_o man_n in_o any_o place_n put_v up_o unto_o they_o to_o these_o objection_n i_o answer_v ha_o ha_o he_o valentianus_n answ_n valentianus_n fieri_fw-la ne_fw-la potest_fw-la ut_fw-la homo_fw-la qui_fw-la sic_fw-la ratiocinatur_fw-la homo_fw-la sit_fw-la the_o psalmist_n also_o say_v i_o will_v pay_v my_o vow_n in_o the_o presence_n of_o thy_o people_n ergo_fw-la all_o god_n people_n know_v the_o secret_n of_o the_o heart_n etc._n etc._n the_o fanatic_a say_v how_o long_a lord_n will_v thou_o not_o remember_v and_o have_v mercy_n upon_o the_o godly_a party_n who_o have_v be_v under_o persecution_n fourteen_o year_n ergo_fw-la the_o fanatic_n know_v the_o secret_n of_o the_o heart_n etc._n etc._n and_o bless_v be_v god_n king_n charles_n the_o second_o be_v a_o great_a prince_n who_o stand_v for_o his_o people_n against_o the_o whore_n of_o babylon_n he_o therefore_o know_v the_o prayer_n and_o necessity_n of_o all_o his_o people_n he_o be_v acquaint_v with_o the_o secret_n of_o the_o heart_n and_o we_o may_v put_v up_o mental_a prayer_n unto_o he_o if_o t._n g._n have_v a_o estate_n worth_n beg_v he_o may_v well_o fear_v that_o his_o performance_n here_o and_o p._n 222_o 223._o will_v rob_v he_o of_o it_o chap._n vii_o the_o content_n the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n touch_v the_o invocation_n of_o the_o saint_n depart_v deliver_v from_o their_o own_o catechism_n and_o liturgy_n and_o the_o decree_n of_o the_o trent_n council_n sect._n 1._o the_o question_n state_v in_o seven_o particular_n sect._n 2._o the_o idolatry_n of_o this_o practice_n prove_v 1._o because_o it_o do_v ascribe_v unto_o they_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o heart_n and_o of_o our_o confession_n 2._o because_o prayer_n to_o a_o absent_a be_v be_v the_o oblation_n of_o that_o worship_n to_o it_o which_o be_v proper_a to_o god_n and_o so_o be_v vow_n and_o hymn_n sect._n 3.3_o because_o the_o apostle_n give_v we_o no_o precept_n or_o example_n so_o to_o do_v sect._n 4._o the_o sequel_n of_o this_o argument_n be_v confirm_v and_o the_o objection_n answer_v sect._n 5._o and_o the_o argument_n from_o miracle_n confute_v sect._n 6._o have_v lay_v down_o these_o proposition_n let_v we_o now_o view_v the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n which_o the_o trent_n council_n have_v deliver_v in_o these_o word_n viz._n 1._o viz._n mandate_n sancta_fw-la synodus_fw-la omnibus_fw-la episcopis_fw-la &_o clerieis_fw-la docendi_fw-la munuscurámque_fw-la sustinentibus_fw-la ut_fw-la fideles_fw-la diligenter_n instruant_fw-la docentes_fw-la eos_fw-la bonum_fw-la atque_fw-la utile_fw-la esse_fw-la suppliciter_fw-la eos_fw-la invocare_fw-la ad_fw-la eorum_fw-la orationes_fw-la opem_fw-la auxiliúmque_fw-la confugere_fw-la illos_fw-la verò_fw-la qui_fw-la negant_fw-la sanctos_fw-la aeterna_fw-la felicitate_a in_fw-la calo_fw-la fruentes_fw-la invocandos_fw-la esse_fw-la aut_fw-la qui_fw-la asserunt_fw-la eorum_fw-la ut_fw-la pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la singulis_fw-la orent_fw-la invocationem_fw-la esse_fw-la idololatricam_fw-la vel_fw-la pugnare_fw-la cum_fw-la verbo_fw-la dei_fw-la adversi_fw-la ique_fw-la honori_fw-la unius_fw-la mediatoris_fw-la dei_fw-la &_o hominis_fw-la jesus_n christi_fw-la vel_fw-la stultum_fw-la esse_fw-la in_o coele_fw-la regantibus_fw-la voce_fw-la vel_fw-la ment_fw-la suppliâ—are_fw-la impié_fw-fr sentire_fw-la st_n quis_fw-la autem_fw-la his_fw-la decretis_fw-la contraria_fw-la docuerit_fw-la aut_fw-la senserit_fw-la anath_n ma_fw-fr sit_fw-la sess_n 25._o c._n 1._o that_o it_o be_v good_a and_o profitable_a humble_o to_o invoke_v the_o saint_n and_o fly_v unto_o their_o prayer_n and_o help_v and_o that_o whosoever_o do_v deny_v that_o saint_n who_o do_v enjoy_v eternal_a happiness_n in_o heaven_n aught_o to_o be_v invoke_v or_o do_v assert_v that_o to_o entreat_v they_o to_o pray_v for_o any_o single_a person_n be_v idolatry_n or_o be_v
the_o creator_n to_o the_o creature_n and_o the_o like_a and_o be_v sufficient_o ward_v against_o the_o force_n of_o this_o assault_n by_o be_v tell_v that_o antichrist_n must_v be_v usher_v in_o with_o sign_n and_o lie_a wonder_n 2.9_o 2_o thess_n 2.9_o second_o what_o austin_n say_v unto_o the_o donatist_n we_o also_o say_v unto_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n show_v we_o your_o scripture_n for_o this_o invocation_n haec_fw-la sunt_fw-la causae_fw-la nostrae_fw-la firmamenta_fw-la the_o three_o particular_a contain_v in_o this_o answer_n be_v that_o the_o holy_a spirit_n have_v forewarn_v we_o that_o in_o the_o latter_a time_n this_o doctrine_n of_o damon_n shall_v prevail_v which_o doctrine_n both_o the_o ingenious_a mr._n mede_n and_o a._n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d adv_fw-la antidico_fw-la marionitas_fw-la haer._n 78._o §._o 23._o a._n epiphanius_n do_v well_o interpret_v to_o be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o worship_v the_o spirit_n of_o dead_a man_n and_o by_o the_o pertinency_n of_o this_o sense_n unto_o st._n augustine_n present_a subject_n we_o have_v good_a reason_n to_o conjecture_v that_o he_o approve_v their_o opinion_n st._n augustine_n second_o answer_n to_o this_o objection_n be_v as_o follow_v l_o follow_v porrò_fw-la si_fw-la aliquis_fw-la in_o hereticorum_fw-la memoriis_fw-la orans_fw-la exauditur_fw-la non_fw-la pro_fw-la merito_fw-la loci_fw-la sed_fw-la pro_fw-la merito_fw-la desiderii_fw-la svi_fw-la recipit_fw-la sive_fw-la matum_fw-la sive_fw-la bonum_fw-la nun_n legimus_fw-la ab_fw-la ipso_fw-la domino_fw-la deo_fw-la nonnullos_fw-la exauditos_fw-la in_o excelsis_fw-la montium_fw-la judaeae_fw-la quae_fw-la tamen_fw-la excelsa_fw-la ità _fw-la displicebant_fw-la deo_fw-la ut_fw-la reges_fw-la qui_fw-la ea_fw-la non_fw-la everterent_fw-la crâ—lparentur_fw-la &_o qui_fw-la everterent_fw-la laudarentur_fw-la unde_fw-la intelligitur_fw-la magis_fw-la valere_fw-la peâ—entiâ—_n assectium_fw-la â—u_n â—m_n petitioâ—is_fw-la locum_fw-la ib._n p._n 116._o col._n 2._o k._n l_o moreover_o if_o any_o person_n pray_v in_o the_o memorial_n of_o heretic_n be_v hear_v it_o be_v not_o for_o the_o merit_n of_o the_o place_n but_o of_o his_o own_o desire_n that_o he_o receive_v any_o good_a doo_n we_o not_o read_v that_o god_n himself_o hearken_v to_o many_o of_o those_o jew_n who_o pray_v in_o the_o high_a place_n although_o those_o place_n so_o displease_v he_o that_o he_o rebuke_v those_o king_n that_o suffer_v they_o whence_o we_o may_v understand_v that_o the_o affection_n of_o the_o supplicant_n be_v more_o prevail_a than_o the_o place_n of_o prayer_n and_o according_o we_o say_v that_o if_o any_o person_n pray_v to_o these_o saint_n be_v hear_v it_o be_v not_o for_o the_o merit_n of_o this_o prayer_n consider_v as_o direct_v to_o the_o saint_n but_o for_o the_o affection_n of_o his_o heart_n and_o as_o it_o will_v not_o follow_v that_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o the_o jew_n to_o pray_v in_o those_o high_a place_n or_o for_o the_o christian_n to_o pray_v in_o the_o memorial_n of_o heretic_n because_o that_o they_o who_o pray_v there_o be_v sometime_o hear_v so_o neither_o do_v it_o follow_v that_o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o pray_v unto_o the_o saint_n depart_v because_o of_o some_o few_o instance_n that_o they_o who_o have_v thus_o pray_v have_v receive_v the_o desire_a blessing_n three_o say_v st._n austin_n l.m._n austin_n de_fw-fr visis_fw-la autem_fw-la fallacibus_fw-la legunt_fw-la quae_fw-la scriâ—ta_fw-la sunt_fw-la &_o quia_fw-la ipse_fw-la satanas_fw-la se_fw-la transfigurat_fw-la tanquam_fw-la angelum_fw-la lucis_fw-la &_o quia_fw-la multos_fw-la seduxerunt_fw-la somnia_fw-la sva_fw-la audiant_fw-la etiam_fw-la quae_fw-la narrant_fw-la pagani_fw-la de_fw-la templis_fw-la &_o diis_fw-la suis_fw-la mirabiliâ—er_fw-la vel_fw-la facta_fw-la vel_fw-la visa_fw-la &_o tamen_fw-la dii_o gentium_fw-la baemonia_n exaudiuntur_fw-la ergo_fw-la multi_fw-la &_o multis_fw-la modis_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la christâ—â—ani_fw-la catholici_fw-la sed_fw-la &_o pagant_a &_o judaei_n &_o haeretici_fw-la variis_fw-la errorâ—lus_fw-la &_o superstiâ—ionibus_fw-la dediti_fw-la exaudiuntur_fw-la autem_fw-la vel_fw-la ab_fw-la spiritibus_fw-la seductoribus_fw-la qui_fw-la tamen_fw-la nihil_fw-la faciunt_fw-la nisi_fw-la permitâ—antur_fw-la deo_fw-la subliâ—iter_fw-la aâ—que_fw-la ineffabiliter_fw-la judieante_fw-la quid_fw-la cuique_fw-la tribuendum_fw-la sit_fw-la sive_fw-la ab_fw-la ipso_fw-la deo_fw-la vel_fw-la ad_fw-la poenam_fw-la malitiae_fw-la vel_fw-la ad_fw-la solatium_fw-la miseriae_fw-la vel_fw-la ad_fw-la monitionem_fw-la quaerendae_fw-la salutis_fw-la aeternae_fw-la ib_a f._n b._n col._n 2._o l.m._n let_v they_o hear_v what_o the_o pagan_n tell_v of_o the_o wonder_v do_v by_o their_o god_n and_o at_o their_o temple_n and_o yet_o the_o god_n of_o the_o heathen_n be_v but_o daemon_n and_o therefore_o many_o not_o only_a catholic_n but_o pagan_n jew_n and_o heretic_n may_v many_o way_n be_v hear_v either_o by_o those_o seduce_a spirit_n which_o yet_o do_v nothing_o but_o with_o god_n permission_n or_o else_o by_o god_n himself_o either_o for_o castigation_n of_o their_o wickedness_n or_o comfort_n of_o their_o misery_n or_o in_o admonition_n of_o they_o to_o pursue_v eternal_a safety_n which_o answer_v also_o do_v suggest_v these_o thing_n 1._o that_o the_o argument_n be_v vain_a because_o it_o will_v serve_v the_o paegan_n as_o well_o as_o it_o well_o serve_v the_o donatist_n or_o roman_a catholic_n and_o prove_v as_o much_o their_o invocation_n of_o daemon_n to_o be_v lawful_a as_o the_o invocation_n of_o the_o saint_n depart_v which_o be_v now_o practise_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n for_o as_o 8._o as_o quibusdam_fw-la signis_fw-la &_o miraculis_fw-la &_o oraculis_fw-la fidem_fw-la divinitatis_fw-la operatur_fw-la apol._n c._n 21._o §._o 8._o tertullian_n say_v by_o sign_n and_o miracle_n and_o oracle_n they_o obtain_v to_o be_v repute_v go_n 20._o go_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—om_n 6._o p_o 375_o l._n 20._o they_o often_o by_o their_o skill_n have_v cure_v disease_n and_o restore_v to_o health_n those_o that_o be_v sick_a what_o shall_v we_o partake_v therefore_o with_o they_o in_o their_o iniquity_n god_n forbid_v so_o chrysostome_n 2._o chrysostome_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d euseb_n praepar_fw-la evang._n l._n 5._o c._n 2._o the_o wicked_a daemon_n say_v eusebius_n counterfeit_v by_o work_v many_o miracle_n the_o soul_n of_o they_o that_o be_v decease_v and_o thence_o they_o be_v think_v worthy_a to_o be_v celebrate_v with_o great_a service_n 28._o service_n frustra_fw-la tantum_fw-la arrogas_fw-la christo_fw-la cum_fw-la saepe_fw-la alios_fw-la sciamus_fw-la &_o scierimus_fw-la deos_fw-la &_o laborantibus_fw-la plurimis_fw-la dedisse_fw-la medicinas_fw-la &_o multorum_fw-la hominum_fw-la morbos_fw-la valetudiâ—ésque_fw-la cuirass_n arnobius_n l._n 1._o p._n 28._o in_o vain_a say_v they_o you_o arrogate_v so_o much_o to_o christ_n for_o we_o have_v often_o know_v that_o other_o god_n have_v give_v medicine_n to_o and_o heal_v the_o infirmity_n of_o many_o moreover_o these_o benefit_n they_o still_o pretend_v to_o receive_v by_o virtue_n of_o those_o supplication_n which_o they_o offer_v to_o they_o 416._o they_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d apud_fw-la orig._n l_o 8._o p._n 407._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 416._o how_o many_o say_v celsus_n be_v trouble_v that_o they_o have_v no_o child_n have_v by_o they_o enjoy_v their_o wish_n how_o many_o be_v maim_v in_o their_o body_n have_v be_v heal_v by_o they_o hence_o say_v 7._o say_v daut_fw-fr cautelam_fw-la periculi_fw-la mâ—rbâ—s_fw-la medelam_fw-la spem_fw-la afflictis_fw-la opeâ—â—_n mâ—seris_fw-la sâ—latium_fw-la calamitatibus_fw-la laboribus_fw-la levameâ—um_fw-la minur_n p._n 7._o cecilius_n they_o give_v we_o caution_n in_o danger_n and_o medicine_n in_o disease_n hope_v to_o the_o afflict_a help_v to_o the_o miserable_a comfort_n in_o calamity_n ease_n from_o labour_n 2._o this_o argument_n be_v vain_a because_o it_o serve_v the_o heretic_n as_o well_o as_o catholic_n for_o what_o can_v be_v more_o glorious_a than_o what_o philostorgius_n record_v of_o 14._o of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d philost_n hist_o eccl._n l_o 2._o §._o 8._o p._n 14._o agapetus_n one_o of_o his_o fellow_n heretic_n that_o he_o wrought_v many_o miracle_n he_o raise_v the_o dead_a and_o heal_v many_o that_o be_v sick_a and_o convert_v many_o to_o the_o christian_a faith_n and_o of_o theophilus_n another_o of_o his_o brother_n arrian_n 27._o arrian_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d idem_fw-la l._n 3._o §_o 4._o p._n 27._o that_o his_o wonder_n be_v so_o great_a and_o such_o convince_a demonstration_n of_o the_o christian_a faith_n as_o to_o constrain_v the_o obstinacy_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o silence_n all_o their_o contradiction_n last_o hence_o we_o may_v learn_v that_o although_o austin_n shall_v have_v relate_v some_o few_o instance_n of_o person_n heal_v by_o supplication_n tender_v to_o the_o saint_n we_o can_v thence_o infer_v as_o t._n g._n do_v that_o by_o so_o do_v he_o commend_v they_o or_o do_v relate_v they_o as_o pattern_n for_o our_o imitation_n chap._n viii_o the_o content_n the_o judgement_n of_o the_o father_n prove_v to_o be_v the_o same_o with_o that_o of_o protestant_n because_o they_o do_v assert_v
bread_n for_o christ_n because_o their_o mistake_n will_v not_o be_v in_o take_v the_o bread_n for_o god_n as_o the_o israelite_n do_v the_o calf_n but_o in_o this_o that_o they_o conceive_v the_o bread_n not_o to_o be_v there_o at_o all_o but_o in_o place_n thereof_o the_o only_a true_a and_o eternal_a god_n and_o so_o although_o the_o object_n or_o rather_o subject_a material_o their_o present_a will_v in_o such_o a_o case_n be_v bread_n yet_o their_o act_n of_o adoration_n will_v not_o be_v terminate_v formal_o upon_o that_o but_o upon_o god_n answer_n as_o if_o this_o also_o be_v not_o their_o mistake_n who_o hold_v the_o calf_n to_o be_v god_n that_o they_o conceive_v no_o creature_n to_o be_v there_o at_o all_o but_o in_o place_n thereof_o the_o only_a true_a and_o eternal_a god_n for_o can_v it_o be_v possible_a that_o the_o israelite_n shall_v conceive_v the_o calf_n to_o be_v god_n and_o not_o conceive_v that_o when_o they_o worship_v he_o as_o god_n they_o have_v no_o creature_n to_o be_v the_o object_n of_o their_o worship_n and_o so_o although_o the_o object_n material_o present_a will_v in_o such_o a_o case_n be_v the_o golden_a calf_n yet_o the_o act_n of_o adoration_n will_v not_o be_v terminate_v formal_o on_o that_o but_o upon_o god_n 5_o t._n g._n proceed_v to_o tell_v we_o in_o the_o word_n of_o dr._n taylor_n that_o if_o they_o think_v christ_n be_v not_o present_a 329._o p._n 329._o they_o be_v so_o far_o from_o worship_v the_o bread_n in_o this_o case_n that_o themselves_o profess_v it_o to_o be_v idolatry_n so_o to_o do_v which_o be_v a_o demonstration_n that_o their_o soul_n have_v nothing_o in_o it_o which_o be_v idololatrical_a answer_v even_o so_o have_v not_o the_o heathen_n think_v that_o a_o good_a spirit_n be_v present_a in_o their_o image_n have_v not_o the_o manichee_n and_o the_o egyptian_n think_v that_o god_n and_o christ_n be_v present_a where_o we_o see_v the_o sun_n have_v not_o the_o israelite_n think_v that_o god_n be_v present_a where_o they_o see_v the_o image_n of_o a_o calf_n they_o will_v have_v be_v so_o far_o from_o worship_v the_o calf_n or_o the_o material_a sun_n that_o they_o themselves_o will_v have_v profess_v it_o to_o be_v idololatrical_a to_o do_v so_o which_o be_v a_o demonstration_n that_o their_o soul_n have_v nothing_o in_o it_o which_o be_v idololatrical_a and_o whereas_o he_o proceed_v to_o add_v from_o dr._n taylor_n 330._o p._n 330._o that_o before_o they_o pass_v a_o act_n of_o aloration_n they_o believe_v the_o bread_n to_o be_v annihilate_v or_o turn_v into_o his_o substance_n who_o may_v lawful_o be_v worship_v and_o they_o who_o have_v these_o thought_n be_v as_o much_o enemy_n of_o idolatry_n as_o they_o who_o understand_v better_o it_o be_v manifest_v this_o do_v as_o much_o excuse_n the_o heathen_a as_o it_o do_v the_o papist_n for_o they_o also_o before_o they_o pass_v a_o act_n of_o adoration_n do_v believe_v that_o what_o they_o worship_v be_v the_o god_n of_o heaven_n who_o lawful_o may_v be_v worship_v and_o have_v such_o conception_n they_o according_a to_o this_o argument_n must_v be_v esteem_v as_o much_o enemy_n of_o idolatry_n as_o be_v those_o christian_n and_o those_o prophet_n which_o reprove_v they_o for_o it_o and_o pass_v so_o wicked_a and_o unjust_a a_o censure_n on_o they_o baronius_n tell_v we_o that_o the_o collyridians_n conceive_v that_o the_o bless_a virgin_n be_v a_o real_a deity_n 43._o apparat._n 43._o and_o that_o she_o have_v nothing_o humane_a in_o she_o and_o so_o before_o they_o venture_v to_o adore_v she_o they_o believe_v her_o humane_a nature_n be_v annihilate_v or_o turn_v into_o his_o substance_n who_o may_v lawful_o be_v worship_v and_o yet_o if_o we_o may_v credit_v epiphanius_n it_o be_v no_o better_a than_o a_o idol-making_a heresy_n and_o they_o be_v diabolical_a idolater_n so_o that_o those_o passage_n of_o that_o ingenious_a and_o learned_a prelate_n serve_v only_o to_o demonstrate_v that_o the_o high_a judgement_n and_o the_o most_o pregnant_a subtle_a wit_n must_v strange_o shuffle_v and_o most_o assure_o miscarry_v when_o it_o endeavour_n to_o excuse_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n from_o be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n when_o the_o same_o reverend_a person_n undertake_v to_o show_v the_o vanity_n and_o folly_n of_o what_o he_o have_v deliver_v on_o that_o subject_a to_o excese_n the_o papist_n when_o he_o proceed_v to_o show_v the_o grourd_n by_o which_o his_o judgement_n be_v establish_v 347._o real_a presence_n p._n 347._o no_o man_n can_v more_o apparent_o assert_v or_o more_o convince_o demonstrate_v what_o the_o roman_a catholic_n allege_v to_o free_v they_o from_o this_o sin_n 342._o 1_o b._n p._n 340.341_o 342._o will_v free_v the_o worst_a of_o heathen_n for_o he_o entreat_v they_o to_o consider_v first_o that_o no_o man_n without_o his_o own_o fault_n can_v mistake_v a_o creature_n so_o far_o as_o to_o suppose_v he_o to_o be_v god_n especial_o not_o such_o a_o creature_n as_o a_o piece_n of_o bread_n second_o that_o when_o the_o heathen_n worship_v the_o sun_n and_o moon_n they_o do_v it_o upon_o their_o confidence_n that_o they_o be_v god_n and_o will_v not_o have_v give_v to_o they_o divine_a honour_n if_o they_o have_v think_v otherwise_o three_o that_o no_o man_n in_o the_o world_n upon_o these_o ground_n except_o he_o that_o be_v malicious_a and_o spiteful_a can_v be_v a_o idolater_n for_o if_o he_o have_v a_o ignorance_n great_a enough_o to_o excuse_v he_o he_o can_v be_v no_o idolater_n if_o he_o have_v not_o he_o be_v spiteful_a and_o malicious_a and_o then_o all_o the_o heathen_n be_v also_o excuse_v as_o well_o as_o they_o four_o that_o if_o good_a intent_n and_o ignorance_n in_o such_o case_n can_v take_v off_o the_o crime_n than_o the_o persecutor_n that_o kill_v the_o aplstle_n think_v they_o do_v god_n good_a service_n and_o saul_n in_o blaspheme_v the_o religion_n and_o persecute_v the_o servant_n of_o jesus_n and_o the_o jew_n themselves_o in_o crucify_a the_o lord_n of_o life_n who_o do_v it_o ignorant_o as_o do_v also_o their_o ruler_n have_v meet_v with_o their_o excuse_n upon_o the_o same_o account_n t._n g._n proceed_v to_o urge_v from_o mr._n thorndike_n thus_o 332._o p._n 332._o and_o true_o he_o have_v nothing_o worth_a consideration_n in_o his_o whole_a discourse_n but_o what_o be_v borrow_v either_o from_o dr._n taylor_n or_o mr._n thorndike_n they_o who_o know_v that_o the_o godhead_n of_o christ_n be_v the_o reason_n for_o which_o his_o flesh_n and_o blood_n be_v worship_v in_o the_o eucharist_n can_v take_v that_o worship_n for_o idolatry_n because_o his_o flesh_n and_o blood_n be_v not_o present_a in_o the_o eucharist_n as_o they_o who_o worship_v it_o there_o think_v it_o be_v for_o they_o know_v that_o the_o flesh_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n be_v no_o idol_n to_o chistian_n wheresoever_o it_o be_v worship_v answer_v this_o argument_n be_v so_o ridiculous_a and_o childish_a that_o i_o be_o tempt_v to_o believe_v this_o worthy_a person_n be_v desert_v in_o this_o matter_n by_o god_n because_o he_o have_v desert_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n for_o so_o far_o be_v we_o from_o know_v that_o the_o flesh_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n be_v make_v no_o idol_n by_o the_o christian_a wheresoever_o it_o be_v worship_v that_o we_o do_v know_v that_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n condemn_v the_o arian_n photinian_n nestorian_a and_o eunomian_n as_o idol-worshipper_n because_o they_o do_v adore_v his_o flesh_n and_o blood_n this_o argument_n therefore_o be_v build_v on_o that_o foundation_n which_o give_v the_o lie_n to_o the_o whole_a christian_n world_n second_o this_o argument_n do_v as_o much_o excuse_n the_o heathen_n and_o the_o manichean_o as_o it_o do_v the_o papist_n for_o they_o that_o know_v the_o deity_n of_o christ_n be_v the_o reason_n why_o he_o be_v worship_v in_o the_o sun_n have_v as_o much_o reason_n to_o excuse_v the_o manichee_n for_o worship_v the_o sun_n upon_o this_o supposition_n that_o christ_n be_v there_o as_o they_o have_v to_o excuse_v the_o papist_n for_o worship_v the_o sacrament_n upon_o a_o like_a false_a supposition_n that_o christ_n be_v there_o but_o now_o come_v in_o a_o demonstration_n 329._o p._n 329._o so_o full_a of_o dazzle_a light_n that_o nothing_o can_v withstand_v its_o evidence_n and_o thus_o it_o run_v what_o ever_o be_v take_v for_o a_o object_n of_o worship_n the_o understanding_n must_v affirm_v to_o be_v but_o catholic_n in_o the_o belief_n of_o transubstantiation_n do_v not_o in_o their_o mind_n affirm_v the_o bread_n to_o be_v therefore_o the_o object_n of_o their_o worship_n be_v not_o bread_n but_o christ_n answer_v what_o t._n g._n ignorant_o style_v a_o demonstration_n be_v such_o a_o miserable_a sophism_n so_o childish_a and_o ridiculous_a that_o nothing_o
anathema_n then_o shall_v i_o think_v this_o synod_n and_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n intend_v only_o to_o forbid_v such_o invocation_n of_o the_o bless_a angel_n as_o make_v they_o god_n or_o sole_a and_o primary_n mediator_n will_v make_v a_o law_n m_o 〈◊〉_d not_o to_o pray_v to_o angel_n and_o thus_o decree_n whosoever_o shall_v go_v and_o invocate_v the_o angel_n let_v he_o be_v anathema_n when_o i_o can_v find_v that_o such_o determination_n and_o decree_n shall_v pass_v for_o current_n in_o a_o church_n or_o nation_n without_o all_o limitation_n or_o restriction_n for_o some_o hundred_o year_n though_o contradictory_n to_o what_o they_o practise_v and_o believe_v then_o shall_v i_o be_v induce_v to_o believe_v this_o canon_n can_v be_v thus_o admit_v and_o confirm_v as_o a_o law_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n in_o contradiction_n to_o their_o faith_n and_o practice_n chap._n xii_o the_o content_n the_o invocation_n of_o angel_n confute_v from_o the_o testimony_n of_o irenaeus_n and_o st_o augustin_n etc._n etc._n sect._n 1_o from_o the_o testimony_n of_o origen_n sect._n 2._o the_o exception_n of_o t._n g._n against_o they_o large_o confute_v sect._n 3_o the_o testimony_n cite_v from_o origen_n hom._n in_o ezech._n consider_v sect._n 4._o to_o this_o so_o pregnant_a testimony_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n we_o shall_v adjoyn_v such_o say_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n as_o do_v direct_o overthrow_v this_o doctrine_n or_o manifest_o affirm_v that_o no_o such_o practice_n be_v allow_v by_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n 57_o non_fw-fr est_fw-fr numerum_fw-la dicere_fw-la gratiarum_fw-la quas_fw-la per_fw-la universum_fw-la mundum_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la a_o deo_fw-la accipiens_fw-la in_o nomine_fw-la christi_fw-la jesus_n crucifixi_fw-la sub_fw-la pontio_n pilato_n per_fw-la singulos_fw-la dies_fw-la in_o opitulationem_fw-la gentium_fw-la perficit_fw-la neque_fw-la seducens_fw-la aliquem_fw-la nec_fw-la pecuniam_fw-la ei_fw-la auferens_fw-la nec_fw-la invocationibus_fw-la angelicis_fw-la faciat_fw-la i._n facit_fw-la aliquid_fw-la nec_fw-la incantationibus_fw-la nec_fw-la aliqua_fw-la prava_fw-la curiositate_fw-la sed_fw-la mundè_fw-la purè_fw-la &_o manifestè_fw-la orationes_fw-la dirigens_fw-la ad_fw-la dominum_fw-la qui_fw-la omne_fw-la fecit_fw-la &_o nomen_fw-la domini_fw-la nostri_fw-la jesus_n christi_fw-la invocans_fw-la virtutes_fw-la secundum_fw-la utilitates_fw-la hominum_fw-la sed_fw-la non_fw-la ad_fw-la seductionem_fw-la perfecit_fw-la iren._n l._n 2._o c._n 57_o thus_o in_o the_o second_o century_n it_o be_v declare_v by_o irenaeus_n that_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n do_v nothing_o by_o the_o invocation_n of_o angel_n but_o pure_o simple_o and_o open_o address_v her_o prayer_n to_o god_n and_o the_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n to_o this_o t._n g._n reply_v that_o irenaeus_n speak_v only_o of_o such_o superstitious_a invocate_a of_o angel_n as_o be_v use_v by_o the_o martionite_n and_o carpocratian_o in_o their_o magical_a operation_n and_o work_v of_o false_a miracle_n p._n 388._o repl._n 1_o the_o word_n of_o irenaeus_n do_v absolute_o say_v that_o christian_n do_v nothing_o by_o the_o invocation_n of_o angel_n which_o if_o t._n g._n will_v limit_v thus_o he_o stand_v oblige_v in_o equity_n and_o and_o by_o the_o law_n of_o disputation_n to_o give_v some_o reason_n of_o that_o limitation_n which_o since_o he_o have_v not_o do_v it_o be_v apparent_a that_o he_o have_v answer_v nothing_o to_o the_o doctor_n argument_n but_o 2._o what_o he_o reply_v as_o it_o be_v absolute_o groundless_a so_o be_v it_o false_a and_o inconsistent_a with_o the_o word_n of_o irenaeus_n for_o he_o do_v manifest_o distinguish_v betwixt_o those_o magical_a operation_n and_o the_o invocation_n of_o holy_a angel_n and_o affirm_v that_o the_o church_n do_v nothing_o by_o incantation_n or_o by_o angelic_a invocation_n 3._o he_o do_v oppose_v unto_o this_o angelic_a invocation_n the_o invocation_n and_o direct_v of_o our_o prayer_n pure_o to_o god_n and_o christ_n what_o therefore_o he_o ascribe_v thus_o pure_o unto_o god_n and_o christ_n he_o must_v be_v deem_v to_o deny_v to_o angel_n and_o consequent_o must_v deny_v that_o they_o direct_v their_o petition_n to_o they_o beside_o why_o do_v he_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o church_n address_v her_o petition_n to_o that_o god_n who_o make_v all_o thing_n if_o not_o to_o show_v that_o this_o be_v the_o true_a reason_n of_o our_o pray_v to_o he_o alone_o see_v he_o only_o be_v the_o maker_n of_o all_o thing_n 4._o he_o manifest_o speak_v of_o the_o miraculous_a gift_n of_o christian_n in_o cure_v disease_n and_o cast_v out_o of_o devil_n which_o thing_n not_o only_a irenaeus_n but_o 7._o but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d lib._n 3._o contra_fw-la celsum_fw-la p._n 124._o l._n 1._o p._n 7._o origen_n affirm_v to_o be_v perform_v only_o by_o the_o invocation_n of_o the_o name_n of_o god_n and_o christ_n lactantius_n tell_v we_o that_o 16._o that_o ille_fw-la autem_fw-la prese_n mundi_fw-la &_o rector_n universi_fw-la qui_fw-la scit_fw-la omne_fw-la cujus_fw-la divinis_fw-la oculis_fw-la nihil_fw-la septum_fw-la est_fw-la solus_fw-la habet_fw-la rerum_fw-la omnium_fw-la cum_fw-la filio_fw-la svo_fw-la potestatem_fw-la nec_fw-la in_o angelis_n quicquam_fw-la nisi_fw-la parendi_fw-la nicessitas_fw-la it_o que_fw-la nullum_fw-la sibi_fw-la honorem_fw-la tribui_fw-la volunt_fw-la quorum_fw-la omnis_fw-la honour_n in_o dao_n est_fw-la l._n 2._o c._n 16._o the_o holy_a angel_n will_v not_o have_v any_o honour_n bestow_v on_o they_o because_o their_o honour_n be_v in_o god_n and_o they_o have_v nothing_o else_o to_o do_v but_o to_o obey_v s._n chrysostome_n be_v very_o copious_a on_o this_o subject_n for_o 1._o he_o tell_v we_o the_o devil_n bring_v in_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i._n e._n the_o call_v upon_o angel_n as_o be_v apparent_a from_o its_o opposition_n to_o call_v upon_o god_n and_o that_o say_v he_o he_o do_v endeavour_v to_o rob_v we_o of_o this_o honour_n of_o go_v unto_o god_n by_o christ_n alone_a as_o be_v apparent_a from_o the_o word_n precede_v 〈◊〉_d precede_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v all_o thing_n by_o god_n and_o introduce_v not_o angel_n and_o last_o he_o conclude_v in_o these_o expression_n 139._o expression_n hom._n 9_o in_o epist_n ad_fw-la coloss_n tom._n 4._o p._n 139._o be_v he_o angel_n or_o archangel_n or_o cherubin_n do_v not_o suffer_v it_o for_o neither_o will_v these_o power_n receive_v this_o honour_n but_o reject_v it_o when_o they_o see_v their_o lord_n dishonour_v i_o have_v honour_v thou_o say_v god_n and_o have_v say_v call_v upon_o i_o and_o do_v thou_o dishonour_v he_o again_o 443._o again_o hom._n 3._o ad_fw-la heb._n p._n 443._o why_o gape_v you_o say_v he_o after_o angel_n they_o be_v our_o fellow_n servant_n now_o from_o that_o very_a name_n the_o father_n argue_v that_o they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v adore_v hence_o 394._o hence_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n orat._n 3._o p._n 394._o athanasius_n conclude_v no_o creature_n ought_v to_o adore_v his_o fellow_n creature_n though_o he_o be_v a_o angel_n because_o the_o angel_n say_v to_o john_n see_v thou_o do_v it_o not_o i_o be_o thy_o fellow_n servant_n and_o gregory_n nazianzen_n say_v 669._o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d nazianz._n orat._n qudragessim_n p._n 668_o 669._o if_o i_o adore_v the_o creature_n what_o shall_v i_o say_v to_o the_o idolatrous_a heathen_a since_o i_o myself_o adore_v my_o fellow_n servant_n for_o creature_n be_v all_o servant_n though_o some_o more_o excellent_a than_o other_o of_o the_o same_o judgement_n be_v st._n angustin_n who_o speak_v thus_o 42._o thus_o quem_fw-la invenirem_fw-la qui_fw-la i_o reconciliatet_fw-la tibi_fw-la a_o eundum_fw-la mihi_fw-la suis_fw-la ad_fw-la angelos_n qua_fw-la prece_fw-la quibus_fw-la aacramentis_fw-la multi_fw-la conantes_fw-la ad_fw-la te_fw-la redire_fw-la neque_fw-la per_fw-la seipsos_fw-la valentes_fw-la sicut_fw-la audio_fw-la tentaveâ—unt_fw-la haec_fw-la &_o inciderunt_fw-la in_o desiderium_fw-la curiosarum_fw-la visionum_fw-la &_o digni_fw-la habiti_fw-la sunt_fw-la illusionibus_fw-la counsel_n l._n 10._o c._n 42._o who_o shall_v i_o find_v that_o may_v reconcile_v i_o unto_o thou_o shall_v i_o have_v go_v unto_o the_o angel_n with_o what_o prayer_n with_o what_o sacrament_n many_o endeavour_v to_o return_v unto_o thou_o and_o not_o be_v not_o able_a to_o do_v it_o by_o themselves_o as_o i_o here_o have_v try_v those_o thing_n and_o have_v fall_v into_o the_o desire_n of_o curious_a vision_n and_o be_v account_v worthy_a of_o illusion_n 23._o de_fw-fr c._n d._n l._n 9_o c._n 23._o elsewhere_o he_o tell_v we_o those_o bless_a spirit_n however_o they_o be_v call_v be_v no_o mediator_n to_o bring_v miserable_a mortal_n to_o blessedness_n and_o immortality_n where_o say_v the_o doctor_n 154._o p._n 154._o it_o will_v be_v ridiculous_a to_o distinguish_v between_o mediator_n of_o redemption_n and_o intercession_n for_o all_o that_o they_o attribute_v to_o their_o good_a spirit_n be_v only_a intercession_n to_o this_o t._n g._n reply_v 376._o p._n 375_o 376._o that_o
innocent_a the_o first_o s._n austin_n and_o which_o be_v the_o current_a doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n for_o many_o hundred_o year_n i_o wave_v the_o opinion_n of_o austin_n and_o of_o innocent_a the_o first_o say_v maldonate_fw-it which_o flourish_v in_o the_o church_n six_o haundr_v year_n 116._o in_o joh._n 6._o n._n 116._o viz._n that_o the_o eucharist_n be_v necessary_a even_o for_o infant_n the_o thing_n be_v now_o unfold_v by_o the_o church_n and_o by_o the_o use_n of_o many_o age_n and_o the_o decree_n of_o the_o trent_n council_n that_o it_o be_v not_o only_o unnecessary_a for_o they_o but_o that_o it_o can_v lawful_o be_v give_v to_o they_o 2._o it_o must_v be_v false_a which_o be_v define_v by_o the_o council_n of_o florence_n and_o be_v receive_v by_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o rome_n that_o saint_n depart_v before_o the_o resurrection_n do_v see_v the_o face_n of_o god_n in_o glory_n for_o we_o have_v prove_v and_o sixtus_n senensis_n do_v acknowledge_v that_o this_o definition_n be_v 345._o bibl._n l._n 6._o an._n 345._o repugnant_a ingenti_fw-la numero_fw-la illustrium_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la patrum_fw-la 3._o hence_o it_o will_v follow_v that_o the_o trent_n catechism_n and_o all_o the_o roman_a doctor_n who_o general_o urge_v that_o of_o jacob_n the_o angel_n that_o redeem_v i_o from_o all_o evil_a bless_v the_o lad_n to_o prove_v that_o angel_n may_v be_v invocate_v embrace_v that_o exposition_n of_o these_o word_n of_o scripture_n which_o be_v heretical_o false_a as_o i_o have_v prove_v chap._n 10._o sect._n 6._o three_o i_o have_v not_o enter_v into_o that_o deep_a dispute_n betwixt_o he_o and_o the_o doctor_n whether_o jubere_fw-la do_v signify_v to_o command_v or_o entreat_v and_o whether_o imperare_fw-la be_v to_o enjoin_v or_o supplicate_v i_o judge_v it_o be_v sufficient_a advantage_n to_o our_o cause_n that_o if_o jubere_fw-la and_o imperare_fw-la shall_v not_o be_v render_v to_o entreat_v and_o supplicate_v but_o to_o command_v the_o romanist_n must_v unavoidable_o be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n t._n g._n indeed_o inform_v we_o that_o it_o be_v not_o the_o dead_a word_n but_o the_o intention_n of_o the_o speaker_n that_o make_v they_o to_o be_v prayer_n for_o otherwise_o a_o parrot_n may_v be_v teach_v to_o pray_v as_o well_o as_o a_o christian_a and_o thence_o he_o manful_o conclude_v that_o in_o these_o expression_n nos_fw-la a_o peccatis_fw-la omnibus_fw-la solvite_fw-la jussu_fw-la quaesumus_fw-la 971._o cassand_n consult_v do_fw-mi de_fw-fr meritis_fw-la &_o intercess_n sanctor_n p._n 971._o jube_fw-la filio_fw-la o_fw-la foelix_fw-la puerpera_fw-la jure_fw-la matris_fw-la impera_fw-la redemptori_fw-la etc._n etc._n they_o only_o pray_v to_o saint_n to_o pray_v for_o we_o as_o if_o a_o man_n shall_v call_v his_o prince_n a_o tyrant_n and_o his_o brother_n knave_n and_o be_v bring_v before_o the_o judge_n shall_v plead_v that_o by_o a_o tyrant_n he_o mean_v only_o a_o king_n and_o by_o a_o knave_n a_o servant_n and_o since_o it_o be_v not_o the_o dead_a word_n but_o the_o intention_n of_o the_o speaker_n that_o make_v they_o significative_a for_o otherwise_o a_o parrot_n may_v be_v hang_v for_o speak_v what_o he_o do_v he_o hope_v that_o he_o have_v speak_v nothing_o which_o may_v give_v offence_n especial_o see_v he_o have_v more_o author_n ready_a to_o produce_v to_o justify_v this_o sense_n and_o acceptation_n of_o these_o word_n than_o have_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n for_o this_o interpretation_n of_o jubere_fw-la and_o imperare_fw-la if_o when_o the_o sentence_n be_v thus_o pass_v upon_o he_o jubemus_fw-la &_o imperamus_fw-la hunc_fw-la suspendi_fw-la he_o shall_v plead_v that_o it_o do_v only_o signify_v that_o they_o entreat_v he_o to_o be_v hang_v i_o say_v shall_v such_o a_o plea_n be_v make_v it_o will_v be_v as_o significant_a as_o be_v this_o answer_n of_o t._n g._n and_o all_o that_o any_o man_n can_v say_v against_o the_o plea_n of_o such_o a_o trifle_a sophister_n will_v equal_o conclude_v against_o this_o pitiful_a defence_n which_o he_o have_v offer_v 14._o josh_n 10.12_o 14._o and_o have_v confirm_v by_o a_o false_a citation_n of_o that_o place_n of_o joshuah_n which_o do_v not_o say_v that_o god_n obey_v as_o from_o the_o vulgar_a he_o translate_v it_o but_o that_o god_n hearken_v to_o the_o voice_n of_o man_n four_o in_o this_o discourse_n i_o have_v not_o wave_v any_o thing_n which_o have_v the_o least_o appearance_n of_o a_o argument_n but_o have_v return_v a_o full_a and_o as_o i_o hope_v a_o satisfactory_a answer_v to_o all_o that_o have_v be_v offer_v by_o t._n g._n and_o all_o that_o i_o desire_v of_o he_o be_v that_o if_o be_v shall_v be_v please_v to_o reply_v he_o will_v not_o nibble_n at_o some_o few_o expression_n as_o be_v the_o manner_n of_o the_o roman_a party_n but_o will_v return_v a_o perfect_a answer_n to_o the_o whole_a and_o then_o i_o do_v not_o doubt_v but_o he_o will_v suffer_v i_o to_o rest_v for_o some_o convenient_a season_n thy_o friend_n and_o servant_n d._n whitby_n errata_fw-la pag._n 4._o l._n 5._o for_o surerstition_n r._n superstition_n p._n 11._o l._n 12._o honerem_fw-la r._n honorem_fw-la p._n 33._o l._n 18._o mby_fw-mi r._n may_v p._n 40._o l_o 27._o from_o r._n for_o p._n 45._o l._n 5._o 〈…〉_o r._n 〈…〉_o p._n 55._o l._n 16._o overthrow_n r._n overthrow_n p._n 56._o mark_fw-mi configere_fw-la r._n confingere_fw-la p._n 60._o l._n 23._o of_o r._n of_o ibid._n mark_fw-mi creatura_fw-la r._n creaturam_fw-la p._n 78._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d r._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 86._o l._n 23._o sguiritual_fw-la r._n spiritual_fw-la p._n 90._o marcarius_fw-la r._n macarius_n p._n 91._o symbol_n a_o r._n a_o symbol_n p._n 93._o po_fw-la r._n do_v p._n 340._o chap._n 11._o r._n chap._n 12._o the_o idolatry_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n chap._n i._n the_o content_n that_o according_a to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n 1._o in_o worship_v the_o host_n §_o 1._o and_o 2._o in_o pray_v to_o depart_a saint_n §_o 2._o the_o method_n use_v to_o justify_v this_o charge_n §_o 3._o the_o notion_n of_o idolatry_n consider_v negative_o in_o two_o proposition_n 1._o that_o to_o render_v any_o person_n guilty_a of_o idolatry_n it_o be_v not_o requisite_a that_o he_o shall_v conceive_v the_o object_n of_o his_o worship_n to_o be_v the_o great_a creator_n or_o the_o chief_a good_a §_o 4._o 2._o that_o worship_n may_v be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n which_o be_v not_o give_v to_o a_o creature_n with_o a_o intent_n to_o ascribe_v unto_o it_o that_o worship_n which_o agree_v to_o god_n alone_o §_o 5._o idolatry_n be_v then_o commit_v when_o any_o honour_n due_a to_o god_n alone_o be_v attribute_v to_o or_o be_v confer_v on_o that_o which_o be_v not_o god_n §_o 6._o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n as_o it_o be_v deliver_v in_o her_o injunction_n canon_n order_n ordinance_n and_o constitution_n her_o liturgy_n and_o public_a homily_n command_v to_o be_v read_v in_o every_o parish_n church_n and_o to_o be_v subscribe_v and_o receive_v by_o all_o that_o exercise_v the_o ministerial_a function_n and_o by_o they_o to_o be_v acknowledge_v to_o contain_v a_o good_a and_o wholesome_a doctrine_n and_o needful_a for_o the_o time_n in_o which_o those_o homily_n be_v publish_v be_v this_o that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n in_o worship_v the_o host_n the_o rubric_n after_o the_o communion_n speak_v thus_o the_o sacramental_a bread_n and_o wine_n remain_v still_o in_o their_o very_a natural_a substance_n and_o therefore_o may_v not_o be_v adore_v for_o that_o be_v idolatry_n to_o be_v abhor_v of_o all_o faithful_a christian_n the_o constitution_n and_o canon_n of_o the_o convocation_n hold_v a._n d._n 1640._o 7._o can._n 7._o and_o publish_v by_o the_o authority_n of_o our_o royal_a martyr_n charles_n the_o first_o affirm_v that_o at_o the_o time_n of_o reform_v this_o church_n from_o that_o gross_a superstition_n of_o popery_n it_o be_v carefu_o provide_v that_o all_o mean_n shall_v be_v use_v to_o root_n out_o of_o the_o mind_n of_o the_o people_n both_o the_o inclination_n thereunto_o and_o memory_n thereof_o especial_o of_o the_o idolatry_n commit_v in_o the_o mass_n for_o which_o cause_n all_o popish_a altar_n be_v demolish_v that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n by_o pray_v unto_o saint_n depart_v 2._o §._o 2._o thus_o in_o the_o homily_n touch_v the_o peril_n of_o idolatry_n we_o have_v these_o word_n terrentius_n vorro_n show_v that_o there_o be_v 300_o jupiter_n in_o his_o time_n i_o think_v we_o have_v no_o few_o saint_n to_o who_o we_o give_v the_o honour_n due_a to_o god_n then_o follow_v this_o apostrophe_n oh_o heaven_n earth_n and_o sea_n what_o madness_n and_o
that_o when_o the_o encratitae_n hold_v it_o unlawful_a to_o drink_v wine_n the_o father_n do_v confute_v they_o by_o this_o very_a argument_n that_o christ_n himself_o drink_v wine_n and_o do_v appoint_v it_o to_o be_v receive_v in_o the_o sacrament_n wherefore_o do_v he_o not_o drink_v water_n after_o his_o resurrection_n but_o wine_n say_v chrysostom_n that_o he_o may_v pull_v up_o by_o the_o root_n another_o wicked_a heresy_n for_o because_o there_o be_v some_o who_o in_o the_o mystery_n use_v water_n declare_v that_o when_o he_o deliver_v the_o mystery_n he_o deliver_v wine_n and_o that_o when_o he_o rise_v and_o spread_v a_o common_a table_n without_o the_o mystery_n he_o use_v wine_n he_o say_v i_o will_v not_o drink_v of_o the_o fruit_n of_o the_o vine_n now_o the_o vine_n produce_v wine_n not_o water_n chrysost_n hom._n in_o mattheum_n 12._o p._n 511._o l._n 12._o edit_fw-la eton._n 1641._o eton._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d clem._n alex._n paedag._n l._n 2._o c._n 2._o p._n 158._o b._n ed._n paris_n 1641._o be_v you_o sure_o say_v clemens_n to_o the_o encratitae_n he_o also_o do_v drink_v wine_n for_o he_o bless_a wine_n when_o he_o say_v take_v drink_v this_o be_v my_o blood_n the_o blood_n of_o the_o vine_n but_o that_o the_o thing_n which_o have_v be_v bless_v be_v wine_n he_o show_v again_o say_v to_o his_o disciple_n i_o will_v not_o drink_v of_o the_o fruit_n of_o this_o vine_n till_o i_o drink_v it_o new_a with_o you_o in_o my_o father_n kingdom_n 12._o kingdom_n illud_fw-la quod_fw-la lex_fw-la dicit_fw-la quia_fw-la sanguis_fw-la est_fw-la anima_fw-la esse_fw-la positum_fw-la dicimus_fw-la sicut_fw-la alia_fw-la multa_fw-la &_o paenè_fw-la â—mnia_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la illarum_fw-la sacramenta_fw-la lignis_fw-la &_o â—guris_fw-la n._n b._n plena_fw-la sunt_fw-la suthrae_fw-la pradicationis_fw-la quae_fw-la jam_fw-la per_fw-la donm_fw-la â—â—strum_fw-la jesus_n dâ—clatate_fw-la est_fw-la contr._n adiman_n coy_a 12._o sic_fw-la est_fw-la 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that_o exposition_n of_o our_o saviour_n word_n be_v true_a and_o genuine_a which_o they_o have_v now_o condemn_v as_o heretical_a 2._o how_o
christ_n humanity_n be_v as_o to_o the_o substance_n and_o the_o nature_n of_o it_o change_v into_o the_o deity_n and_o that_o the_o accident_n form_n and_o figure_n of_o it_o only_o remain_v unchanged_a that_o be_v he_o grant_v all_o that_o the_o heretic_n assert_n and_o he_o endeavour_v to_o refure_n for_o thus_o the_o heretic_n dispuâ—es_v as_o the_o symbol_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n be_v other_o thing_n before_o the_o invocation_n of_o the_o priest_n but_o after_o the_o invocation_n they_o be_v change_v and_o make_v other_o so_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n after_o the_o assumption_n be_v change_v into_o the_o divine_a substance_n and_o thus_o the_o orthodox_n do_v answer_v thou_o be_v catch_v in_o thy_o own_o net_n for_o the_o mystical_a sign_n after_o sanctification_n do_v not_o recede_v from_o their_o own_o nature_n again_o the_o orthodox_n put_v this_o question_n be_v not_o the_o mystery_n 57_o ibid._n vid._n p._n 57_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o body_n which_o 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throat_n epist_n leonis_fw-la 2._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o venerable_a throne_n and_o baptism_n 6._o baptism_n justinian_n novil_n 6._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o venerable_a baptism_n the_o same_o uncenscionable_a deal_n we_o meet_v with_o in_o that_o passage_n of_o st._n austin_n for_o no_o man_n eat_v christ_n flesh_n 〈◊〉_d be_v have_v siâ—sâ—_n adore_v for_o in_o that_o very_a place_n he_o tell_v we_o that_o h_n that_o in_o â—â—sâ—l_n 98._o p_o 241._o â—_o g._n h_n the_o jew_n interpret_v the_o eat_n of_o christ_n flesh_n like_o fool_n for_o they_o interpret_v it_o carnal_o whereas_o christ_n do_v instrâ—â—_n his_o own_o disciple_n and_o say_v unto_o they_o understand_v spiritual_o what_o i_o say_v unto_o you_o you_o shall_v not_o eat_v the_o body_n which_o you_o see_v and_o drink_v the_o blood_n which_o they_o will_v shed_v that_o crucify_v i_o i_o have_v commend_v unto_o you_o a_o sacrament_n that_o spiritual_o be_v understand_v will_v quicken_v you_o so_o that_o st._n austin_n in_o this_o very_a place_n assert_v the_o contradictory_n to_o what_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n believe_v touch_v the_o presence_n of_o christ_n body_n in_o the_o sacrament_n and_o call_v they_o fool_n that_o think_v christ_n do_v intend_v what_o they_o imagine_v he_o have_v say_v therefore_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o st._n austin_n in_o this_o place_n speak_v nothing_o of_o the_o adoration_n of_o christ_n flesh_n under_o the_o accident_n of_o bread_n but_o only_o of_o the_o adoration_n of_o his_o flesh_n consider_v as_o unite_v to_o the_o godhead_n and_o place_v at_o the_o right_a hand_n of_o god_n i_o ast_o to_o that_o of_o ambrose_n 12._o de_fw-fr spir_n saâ—cto_fw-la l_o 3._o c._n 12._o by_o the_o footstool_n be_v understand_v the_o earth_n and_o by_o the_o earth_n the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n which_o we_o adore_v in_o the_o mystery_n at_o this_o day_n and_o which_o the_o apostle_n adore_v in_o our_o lord_n jesus_n i_o answer_v that_o he_o say_v no_o more_o 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58._o serm_n 58._o etc._n etc._n speak_v thus_o we_o ought_v not_o now_o to_o seek_v our_o saviour_n upon_o the_o earth_n or_o according_a to_o the_o flesh_n it_o we_o will_v find_v and_o touch_v he_o but_o according_a to_o the_o glory_n of_o his_o divine_a majesty_n that_o we_o may_v say_v with_o the_o apostle_n paul_n but_o now_o we_o know_v not_o christ_n according_a to_o the_o flesh_n and_o therefore_o bless_a stephen_n by_o his_o faith_n do_v not_o seek_v christ_n upon_o the_o earth_n but_o do_v acknowledge_v he_o stand_v at_o the_o right_a hand_n of_o god_n where_o with_o the_o devotion_n of_o the_o mind_n he_o seek_v he_o now_o this_o no_o protestant_n deny_v that_o christ_n even_o in_o the_o celebration_n of_o the_o eucharist_n be_v to_o be_v worship_v where_o he_o be_v and_o where_o he_o be_v to_o be_v seek_v after_o by_o such_o as_o do_v desire_n to_o sin_v he_o i.e._n at_o the_o right_a hand_n of_o god_n chap._n vi_o the_o content_n prop._n 1._o when_o we_o ascribe_v unto_o the_o creature_n the_o homage_n due_a to_o the_o creator_n we_o become_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n prop._n 2._o to_o know_v the_o secret_n of_o the_o heart_n of_o person_n pray_v at_o all_o time_n and_o in_o all_o place_n of_o the_o world_n be_v a_o divine_a and_o incommunicate_v excellency_n prop._n 3._o that_o to_o ascribe_v this_o knowledge_n to_o any_o creature_n to_o who_o god_n do_v not_o thus_o discover_v the_o secret_n of_o the_o heart_n and_o to_o pay_v that_o honour_n to_o it_o which_o do_v suppose_v that_o knowledge_n be_v idolatry_n prop._n 4._o those_o outward_a act_n of_o worship_n which_o by_o consent_n of_o nation_n or_o by_o common_a use_n do_v signify_v the_o honour_n due_a to_o the_o creator_n be_v idolatrical_a when_o give_v to_o a_o creature_n corol_fw-la 1._o that_o to_o offer_v sacrifice_n be_v to_o perform_v that_o worship_n which_o be_v proper_a only_o to_o god_n 2._o that_o to_o vow_n to_o angel_n or_o to_o saint_n depart_v be_v to_o ascribe_v unto_o they_o 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celsus_n apud_fw-la orig_n l._n 8._o p._n 399._o ed_n spenc._n that_o god_n by_o they_o dispense_v earthly_a thing_n and_o that_o he_o have_v appoint_v they_o to_o rule_v over_o a_o city_n or_o a_o country_n and_o 381._o and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d orig._n adv_o celsuns_n l._n 8._o p._n 381._o that_o it_o be_v his_o pleasure_n that_o we_o shall_v thus_o pray_v and_o offer_v to_o they_o and_o yet_o both_o these_o first_o fruit_n and_o prayer_n be_v look_v upon_o as_o piece_n of_o idolatry_n by_o jew_n and_o christian_n the_o nestorian_n hold_v the_o lord_n christ_n to_o be_v a_o man_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o grace_n invest_v with_o divinity_n and_o if_o any_o arian_n do_v ever_o say_v that_o christ_n be_v to_o be_v worship_v with_o divine_a worship_n they_o must_v esteem_v this_o honour_n to_o be_v give_v to_o he_o not_o from_o the_o dignity_n of_o his_o nature_n but_o from_o the_o pleasure_n of_o the_o father_n but_o notwithstanding_o they_o allow_v he_o to_o be_v 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stone_n but_o that_o spiritual_a be_v which_o by_o their_o 12._o their_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ditit_fw-la olympius_n sophista_fw-la sozom._n h._n ecc._n l._n 7._o c._n 15._o v._n dion_n chrysust_n sâ—rm_n 12._o consecration_n they_o conceive_v to_o be_v present_a in_o their_o image_n or_o which_o those_o image_n resemble_v and_o represent_v and_o that_o prefession_n we_o have_v record_v by_o the_o 2._o the_o hermes_n aegyptius_n quem_fw-la trismegisium_n vocant_fw-la visibilia_fw-la &_o contrectabilia_fw-la simulachra_fw-la velut_fw-la corpora_fw-la decrum_fw-la esse_fw-la asserit_fw-la inesse_fw-la autem_fw-la his_fw-la quosdam_fw-la spiritus_fw-la invitatos_fw-la qui_fw-la valequid_fw-la sive_fw-la ad_fw-la nocendum_fw-la sive_fw-la ad_fw-la desideria_fw-la corum_fw-la nonulla_fw-la complenda_fw-la à _fw-la quibus_fw-la cis_fw-la divint_fw-la honores_fw-la &_o culius_fw-la obsequia_fw-la deferuntur_fw-la hos_fw-la ergo_fw-la siritus_fw-la invisibliles_fw-la per_fw-la 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without_o a_o miracle_n of_o folly_n be_v a_o triumphant_a demonstration_n that_o their_o case_n be_v desperate_a for_o shall_v any_o man_n be_v force_v in_o defence_n of_o any_o tenet_n to_o assert_v that_o all_o the_o world_n do_v for_o some_o age_n past_a believe_v that_o twice_o two_o be_v six_o or_o that_o every_o ass_n they_o feed_v be_v the_o creator_n of_o the_o world_n i_o humble_o conceive_v we_o shall_v have_v reason_n to_o believe_v he_o be_v some_o mad_a distemper_a person_n and_o that_o only_o the_o badness_n of_o his_o cause_n and_o his_o own_o obstinacy_n and_o not_o the_o evidence_n of_o truth_n constrain_v he_o to_o espouse_v a_o tenet_n so_o reproachful_a to_o mankind_n and_o yet_o this_o tenet_n have_v nothing_o more_o apparent_o repugnant_a to_o the_o sense_n and_o apprehension_n of_o mankind_n than_o that_o which_o be_v maintain_v by_o the_o doctor_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n viz._n that_o all_o mankind_n do_v for_o two_o thousand_o year_n conceive_v that_o be_v 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see_v and_o hear_v we_o every_o where_fw-mi and_o chrysostom_n upon_o the_o same_o expression_n find_v fault_n with_o those_o that_o pray_v aloud_o and_o bid_v we_o imitate_v the_o hymn_n and_o melody_n of_o holy_a angel_n who_o pray_v with_o we_o although_o we_o do_v not_o hear_v they_o for_o say_v he_o 137._o he_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d chrysost_n tom._n 2._o homil._n in_o matt._n 19_o pag._n 137._o thou_o do_v not_o pray_v to_o man_n but_o to_o god_n omnipresent_v to_o he_o that_o hear_v before_o thou_o speak_v to_o he_o that_o understand_v what_o the_o mind_n do_v not_o utter_v 4._o because_o he_o only_o can_v answer_v our_o petition_n and_o from_o he_o only_o can_v we_o obtain_v what_o we_o desire_v 3._o desire_v precantes_fw-la sumus_fw-la proomnibus_fw-la imperatoribus_fw-la vitam_fw-la illis_fw-la prolixam_fw-la imperium_fw-la securum_fw-la domun_fw-la tutam_fw-la populum_fw-la probum_fw-la orbem_fw-la quietum_fw-la quaecunque_fw-la hominis_fw-la &_o caesaris_fw-la vota_fw-la sunt_fw-la haec_fw-la ab_fw-la alio_fw-la orare_fw-la non_fw-la possum_fw-la quam_fw-la à _fw-la quo_fw-la i_o scio_fw-la consequnturum_fw-la quoniam_fw-la &_o ipse_fw-la est_fw-la qui_fw-la solus_fw-la praestat_fw-la &_o ego_fw-la sum_fw-la cvi_fw-la impetrare_fw-la debetur_fw-la famulus_fw-la ejus_fw-la qui_fw-la eum_fw-la solum_fw-la observo_fw-la tertul._n apol._n c._n 30._o sect._n 2_o 3._o we_o beg_v for_o all_o our_o emperor_n long_a life_n safe_a empire_n valiant_a army_n a_o faithful_a senate_n a_o honest_a people_n and_o a_o quiet_a world_n and_o whatsoever_o any_o man_n or_o emperor_n can_v wish_v so_o tertullian_n and_o then_o he_o add_v these_o thing_n i_o may_v not_o pray_v for_o from_o any_o other_o but_o from_o he_o of_o who_o i_o know_v i_o shall_v obtain_v they_o because_o both_o it_o be_v he_o who_o alone_o be_v able_a to_o give_v and_o i_o be_o be_v to_o who_o it_o appertain_v to_o obtain_v that_o which_o be_v request_v be_v his_o servant_n who_o 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that_o what_o be_v in_o the_o greek_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v in_o the_o ancient_a interpreter_n of_o the_o act_n of_o polycarp_n alteri_fw-la cviquam_fw-la orationis_fw-la precem_fw-la impendere_fw-la we_o can_v pray_v to_o any_o other_o 27._o act._n polyc_a in_o append_v ignat_fw-la usser_n p._n 27._o and_o what_o the_o jew_n object_v that_o if_o the_o christian_n can_v obtain_v the_o martyr_n body_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d desert_v christ_n they_o will_v begin_v to_o worship_v he_o be_v by_o the_o metaphra_v thus_o render_v huic_fw-la fundenda_fw-la esset_fw-la oratio_fw-la singulorum_fw-la they_o will_v all_o pray_v unto_o he_o now_o see_v this_o translation_n be_v of_o such_o credit_n in_o the_o western_a church_n that_o it_o be_v read_v in_o their_o assembly_n it_o be_v most_o certain_a that_o church_n do_v ancient_o conceive_v 1_o that_o the_o church_n of_o smyrna_n do_v deny_v that_o any_o genuine_a christian_n will_v pray_v to_o any_o saint_n depart_v 2._o 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the_o son_n of_o god_n in_o opposition_n to_o the_o martyr_n and_o comprehend_v the_o service_n they_o perform_v to_o the_o bless_a martyr_n in_o a_o word_n which_o do_v not_o in_o the_o least_o import_n the_o veneration_n which_o they_o daily_o practise_v 2._o observe_v the_o reason_n which_o be_v give_v by_o the_o church_n of_o smyrna_n why_o they_o can_v not_o worship_v any_o other_o viz._n because_o they_o worship_v the_o son_n of_o god_n if_o any_o worship_n have_v be_v then_o pay_v to_o martyr_n or_o any_o other_o saint_n depart_v by_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n what_o can_v have_v be_v more_o stupid_a than_o this_o way_n of_o reason_v now_o that_o this_o doctrine_n be_v introduce_v into_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n we_o hear_v they_o speak_v thus_o 11._o thus_o tantum_n abest_fw-la ut_fw-la sanctis_fw-la invocandis_fw-la dei_fw-la gloria_fw-la minuacur_fw-la ut_fw-la eo_fw-la maximè_fw-la augeatur_fw-la cat._n rom._n part_n 3._o c._n 2._o sect._n 11._o we_o worship_v saint_n and_o martyr_n in_o honour_n of_o the_o son_n of_o god_n so_o far_o do_v they_o esteem_v that_o honour_n which_o they_o pay_v to_o he_o from_o be_v any_o prejudice_n unto_o the_o worship_n of_o those_o bless_a spirit_n 3._o observe_v the_o argument_n which_o the_o jew_n urge_v to_o move_v the_o proconsul_n to_o retain_v the_o body_n viz._n that_o if_o the_o christian_n can_v obtain_v it_o it_o may_v be_v fear_v they_o will_v leave_v christ_n and_o worship_n polycarp_n the_o jew_n can_v not_o be_v ignorant_a of_o what_o the_o christian_n practise_v in_o this_o case_n by_o reason_n of_o those_o numerous_a apostate_n who_o daily_o leave_v the_o church_n and_o of_o that_o liberty_n they_o have_v to_o come_v to_o their_o assembly_n have_v then_o the_o christian_n worship_v other_o martyr_n with_o christ_n and_o have_v they_o profess_v to_o do_v it_o for_o his_o sake_n and_o honour_n can_v this_o have_v be_v object_v by_o the_o jew_n with_o any_o sense_n and_o reason_n that_o they_o will_v 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and_o of_o his_o charity_n by_o which_o he_o have_v obtain_v that_o enjoyment_n to_o that_o of_o jerom_n paâ—lae_fw-la jerom_n vale_fw-la o_o paula_n &_o cultoris_fw-la tui_fw-la extremam_fw-la senâ—ctutem_fw-la orationâ—bus_fw-la juva_fw-fr fides_fw-la &_o cperatua_n te_fw-la christo_fw-la consociant_fw-la praesens_fw-la facilius_fw-la quâ—d_fw-la pâ—stulas_fw-la impâ—trabis_fw-la epitaph_n paâ—lae_fw-la farewell_o o_o paula_n help_v the_o old_a age_n of_o thy_o honourer_n with_o thy_o prayer_n we_o have_v sufficient_o reply_v by_o show_v that_o it_o be_v frequent_a with_o the_o father_n by_o a_o apostrophe_n to_o speak_v to_o their_o decease_a friend_n as_o if_o they_o do_v suppose_v they_o present_v although_o they_o do_v not_o think_v they_o so_o to_o be_v and_o this_o must_v necessary_o be_v the_o sense_n of_o jerom_n for_o he_o declare_v that_o his_o dear_a friend_n nepotian_n beinâ—_n once_o join_v to_o the_o choir_n of_o saint_n whatever_o he_o shall_v say_v unto_o he_o will_v be_v but_o speak_v to_o the_o deaf_a because_o he_o will_v not_o hear_v it_o he_o therefore_o must_v conceive_v the_o same_o of_o paula_n of_o who_o he_o here_o affirm_v this_o she_o be_v present_a with_o christ_n the_o better_a to_o reply_v unto_o some_o other_o passage_n object_v by_o t.g._n observe_v first_o 8._o §._o 8._o that_o the_o antieâ—â—_n father_n do_v yield_v a_o threefold_a service_n to_o the_o saâ—râ—_n depart_v as_o first_o the_o honour_n of_o love_n and_o society_n second_o the_o recognition_n and_o praise_n of_o their_o excellency_n three_o the_o imitation_n of_o their_o virtue_n and_o their_o godly_a example_n this_o service_n the_o writer_n of_o the_o four_o and_o five_o century_n sometime_o call_v worship_n and_o veneration_n but_o the_o more_o ancient_a father_n style_v it_o honour_n account_v all_o religious_a worship_n to_o be_v due_a to_o god_n alone_o as_o be_v most_o excellent_o prove_v by_o dalle_n 1._o advers._fw-la lat._n cult_a l._n 1._o c._n 5_o 1._o and_o when_o the_o heretic_n and_o heathen_n do_v object_n against_o these_o latter_a father_n the_o worship_n of_o the_o holy_a martyr_n they_o reply_v two_o thing_n 1._o that_o they_o do_v not_o worship_v they_o as_o go_n thus_o when_o it_o be_v object_v by_o the_o apostate_n julian_n that_o 203._o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d apud_fw-la cyril_n l._n 6_o contr_n jul._n p._n 203._o instead_o of_o many_o god_n the_o christian_n worship_v many_o miserable_a man_n st._n cyril_n answer_v ibid._n answer_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ibid._n we_o do_v not_o make_v they_o god_n nor_o do_v we_o worship_v that_o which_o by_o nature_n be_v not_o god_n and_o when_o faustus_n have_v object_v against_o the_o christian_n that_o they_o have_v 21._o have_v vertistis_fw-la idola_fw-la in_o mart_n ire_n quos_fw-la votis_fw-la inquit_fw-la similibus_fw-la colitis_fw-la apud_fw-la august_n contra_fw-la faustum_n man._n lib._n 20._o chap._n 21._o change_v their_o martyr_n into_o the_o heathen_a idol_n and_o in_o like_a manner_n pay_v their_o homage_n to_o they_o st._n austin_n answer_v that_o ibid._n that_o at_o illo_fw-la cultu_fw-la quae_fw-la latria_n dicitur_fw-la nec_fw-la colimus_fw-la nec_fw-la colendam_fw-la docemus_fw-la nisi_fw-la unum_fw-la deum_fw-la
august_n ibid._n they_o give_v not_o divine_a worship_n to_o they_o 2._o that_o reverence_n and_o honour_n which_o they_o oppose_v to_o this_o latria_n or_o divine_a worship_n and_o which_o they_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v due_a and_o give_v by_o they_o to_o saint_n depart_v they_o comprise_v in_o the_o forementioned_a particular_n or_o in_o such_o other_o matter_n as_o be_v and_o do_v include_v no_o formal_a prayer_n and_o no_o elicit_a action_n of_o religion_n whence_o we_o may_v rational_o conceive_v that_o neither_o prayer_n nor_o vow_n nor_o any_o action_n which_o be_v proper_o religious_a be_v then_o tender_v to_o they_o and_o that_o they_o do_v not_o think_v they_o part_n of_o that_o dulia_n which_o be_v due_a to_o saint_n 21._o contra_fw-la faustum_n lib._n 20._o c._n 21._o but_o rather_o part_n of_o that_o latria_n which_o be_v due_a to_o god_n alone_o this_o be_v apparent_a from_o st._n augustine_n answer_n unto_o faustus_n viz._n the_o worship_n therefore_o which_o we_o give_v the_o martyr_n be_v that_o worship_n of_o society_n and_o love_n which_o we_o afford_v unto_o those_o holy_a man_n who_o in_o this_o life_n we_o worship_v but_o with_o that_o worship_n which_o be_v call_v latria_n we_o worship_v god_n alone_o where_o 1_o observe_v that_o he_o ascribe_v unto_o the_o martyr_n only_o that_o worship_n which_o in_o this_o life_n we_o give_v unto_o our_o fellow_n saint_n now_o be_v it_o any_o part_n of_o that_o affection_n or_o society_n we_o bear_v unto_o the_o live_n to_o put_v up_o our_o petition_n to_o they_o when_o at_o great_a distance_n from_o we_o and_o invisible_a 2._o unto_o this_o worship_n of_o society_n and_o love_n which_o do_v not_o comprehend_v address_n make_v by_o way_n of_o prayer_n to_o person_n absent_a and_o invisible_a st._n austin_n do_v oppose_v latria_n the_o worship_n proper_a to_o god_n whence_o we_o infer_v that_o worship_n which_o can_v not_o be_v include_v in_o these_o expression_n of_o society_n and_o love_n viz._n all_o mental_a prayer_n and_o supplication_n make_v by_o speech_n to_o person_n at_o great_a distance_n and_o invisible_a must_v in_o st._n augustine_n judgement_n be_v latria_n or_o the_o worship_n proper_a unto_o god_n alone_o the_o like_a we_o may_v observe_v in_o cyril_n for_o have_v say_v we_o neither_o do_v affirm_v the_o martyr_n to_o be_v god_n nor_o do_v we_o worship_v they_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d with_o latria_n but_o with_o the_o worship_n of_o honour_n and_o affection_n he_o give_v three_o instance_n of_o their_o honour_n 204._o honour_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d cyril_n adv_o jul._n l._n 6._o p._n 204._o we_o give_v they_o all_o veneration_n we_o honour_v their_o sepulcher_n and_o we_o remember_v their_o resplendent_a virtue_n moreover_o the_o honour_n give_v to_o they_o seem_v therefore_o to_o be_v call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o relative_a because_o as_o basil_n note_n the_o honour_n give_v to_o the_o best_a of_o our_o fellow_n servant_n be_v the_o sign_n and_o demonstration_n of_o our_o good_a will_n and_o respect_n towards_o our_o common_a lord_n whence_o that_o of_o st._n gregory_n nyssen_n speak_v to_o the_o martyr_n theodorus_n martyr_n orat._n de_fw-fr theod._n martyr_n we_o hold_v this_o assembly_n for_o thou_o to_o adore_v our_o common_a lord_n and_o make_v full_a commemoration_n of_o thy_o victory_n so_o then_o these_o answer_n and_o objection_n which_o t._n g._n reckon_v a_o confirmation_n of_o this_o practice_n of_o invocation_n of_o the_o saint_n depart_v be_v rather_o a_o just_a prejudice_n against_o it_o it_o be_v never_o mention_v by_o they_o upon_o these_o occasion_n as_o any_o portion_n of_o that_o honour_n they_o bestow_v upon_o these_o bless_a spirit_n nor_o yet_o contain_v in_o what_o they_o mention_v second_o 10._o §._o 10._o observe_v it_o be_v the_o custom_n of_o those_o time_n to_o put_v up_o their_o petition_n at_o the_o martyr_n tomb_n and_o this_o they_o do_v for_o these_o consideration_n viz._n 1._o from_o a_o presumption_n that_o when_o the_o christian_n come_v unto_o these_o tomb_n the_o bless_a martyr_n join_v their_o supplication_n with_o they_o and_o by_o so_o do_v help_v to_o speed_v they_o whence_o basil_n in_o his_o oration_n on_o the_o 40_o martyr_n say_v together_o with_o these_o martyr_n let_v we_o pour_v forth_o our_o prayer_n for_o here_o be_v 40_o send_v up_o one_o prayer_n and_o if_o where_o two_o or_o three_o be_v gather_v together_o god_n be_v present_a who_o doubt_v his_o presence_n where_o forty_o be_v 2._o that_o their_o devotion_n may_v be_v enliven_v and_o their_o affection_n raise_v by_o the_o place_n thus_o austin_n tell_v we_o that_o 21._o that_o quod_fw-la offertur_fw-la offertur_fw-la deo_fw-la qui_fw-la martyr_n coronavit_fw-la apud_fw-la memoriam_fw-la corum_fw-la quos_fw-la coronavit_fw-la ut_fw-la ex_fw-la ipsorum_fw-la locorum_fw-la admonitione_n major_n affectus_fw-la exurgat_fw-la â—d_a acuendam_fw-la charitatem_fw-la &_o in_fw-la illos_fw-la quos_fw-la imtrari_fw-la pâ—ssumus_fw-la &_o in_o illum_fw-la quo_fw-la adamant_n pâ—ssuâ—us_fw-la contra_fw-la faustum_n man._n l._n 20._o c._n 21._o what_o be_v offer_v to_o god_n be_v offer_v at_o the_o memory_n of_o the_o martyr_n that_o by_o the_o admonition_n or_o remembrance_n which_o the_o very_a place_n give_v we_o a_o strong_a affection_n may_v arise_v to_o inflame_v our_o charity_n both_o towards_o those_o who_o we_o imitate_v and_o he_o by_o who_o assistance_n we_o may_v be_v enable_v to_o do_v it_o another_o custom_n of_o these_o ancient_n be_v to_o joh._n to_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d cyril_n catech_n mystag_n 5._o p._n 241._o ideo_fw-la ad_fw-la ipsam_fw-la mensammon_n sic_fw-la choose_fw-la commemoramus_fw-la quemadmodum_fw-la alios_fw-la qui_fw-la in_o pace_fw-la requiâ—scunt_fw-la ut_fw-la etiam_fw-la pro_fw-la iis_fw-la o_fw-la emus_fw-la sed_fw-la magis_fw-la ut_fw-la ipsi_fw-la prò_fw-la nobis_fw-la orent_fw-la august_n tract_n 84._o in_o joh._n pray_v unto_o god_n 11._o §._o 11._o that_o for_o the_o intercession_n of_o those_o saint_n and_o martyr_n he_o will_v grant_v they_o their_o request_n just_a as_o the_o israelite_n do_v desire_v kindness_n for_o the_o sake_n of_o abraham_n and_o david_n and_o this_o say_v austin_n haply_o may_v be_v conceive_v that_o 16._o that_o de_fw-fr cura_fw-la pro_fw-la mortuis_fw-la cap._n 16._o they_o in_o general_a make_v address_n unto_o god_n as_o we_o do_v for_o the_o dead_a although_o we_o know_v not_o where_o they_o be_v or_o what_o they_o do_v for_o all_o the_o want_n of_o such_o as_o come_v to_o these_o assembly_n god_n may_v be_v move_v by_o their_o prayer_n to_o grant_v what_o he_o see_v needful_a for_o they_o as_o haply_o he_o be_v move_v by_o the_o fervent_a prayer_n of_o some_o relation_n distant_a from_o we_o to_o vouchsafe_v we_o blessing_n and_o by_o the_o address_n of_o some_o church_n to_o grant_v deliverance_n from_o persecution_n unto_o other_o this_o observation_n be_v a_o sufficient_a answer_n to_o many_o of_o those_o passage_n which_o t.g._n cite_v to_o prove_v it_o be_v the_o custom_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n to_o invocate_v the_o saint_n depart_v as_o v._o g._n ruffinus_n do_v relate_v of_o theodosius_n 33._o theodosius_n hist_o eccles_n l._n 2._o c._n 33._o that_o he_o go_v to_o all_o the_o place_n of_o prayer_n and_o lie_v prostrate_a before_o the_o martyr_n and_o apostle_n tomb_n he_o ask_v succour_n by_o intercession_n of_o the_o saint_n which_o upon_o supposition_n that_o they_o pray_v with_o he_o and_o do_v continual_o intercede_v for_o all_o that_o put_v up_o their_o petition_n there_o or_o for_o the_o whole_a church_n militant_a he_o may_v well_o do_v but_o than_o it_o be_v not_o intimate_v that_o he_o beg_v these_o succour_n by_o invocation_n of_o the_o saint_n we_o also_o hope_v for_o benefit_n and_o succour_v from_o the_o intercession_n of_o our_o pious_a friend_n and_o of_o the_o whole_a church_n militant_a and_o may_v entreat_v god_n to_o help_v we_o for_o the_o sake_n of_o their_o petition_n yet_o be_v not_o this_o a_o warrant_n to_o put_v up_o supplication_n to_o our_o pious_a relative_n or_o to_o the_o universal_a church_n st._n basil_n in_o his_o oration_n on_o the_o forty_o martyr_n say_v 459._o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d bas_n hom._n 20_o in_o xl._n mart._n p._n 459._o he_o that_o be_v press_v with_o affliction_n fly_v to_o they_o and_o he_o that_o be_v glad_a run_v to_o they_o the_o one_o that_o he_o may_v be_v free_v from_o his_o affliction_n the_o other_o that_o he_o may_v continue_v in_o that_o joyful_a state_n but_o then_o to_o fly_v and_o run_v unto_o they_o be_v only_o to_o fly_v and_o run_v unto_o the_o tomb_n and_o church_n where_o they_o be_v inter_v as_o be_v apparent_a from_o the_o follow_a word_n here_o it_o be_v that_o a_o woman_n pray_v for_o her_o son_n be_v hear_v and_o from_o the_o exhortation_n follow_v wherefore_o together_o with_o these_o martyr_n let_v we_o pour_v forth_o our_o
dilectam_fw-la commendat_fw-la recordantis_fw-la &_o precantis_fw-la affectus_fw-la ibid_fw-la f._n that_o when_o the_o mind_n do_v cast_v about_o where_o the_o body_n of_o a_o dear_a friend_n may_v be_v bury_v and_o straight_o a_o place_n occur_v to_o his_o mind_n renown_v for_o the_o name_n of_o some_o martyr_n the_o affection_n of_o he_o who_o thus_o remember_v and_o pray_v forthwith_o commend_v the_o belove_a soul_n to_o the_o same_o martyr_n viz._n that_o affection_n which_o induce_v the_o survive_a person_n to_o think_v of_o place_v his_o belove_a friend_n by_o the_o memorial_n of_o that_o martyr_n and_o make_v he_o choose_v that_o as_o the_o place_n where_o he_o will_v commend_v the_o soul_n of_o his_o belove_a friend_n to_o god_n for_o that_o the_o prayer_n be_v direct_v to_o god_n though_o put_v up_o at_o the_o martyr_n tomb_n be_v evident_a from_o the_o follow_a word_n h._n word_n plurimum_fw-la intersit_fw-la ubi_fw-la ponat_fw-la corpus_fw-la mortui_fw-la svi_fw-la qui_fw-la pro_fw-la spiritu_fw-la ejus_fw-la deo_fw-la n._n b_o supplicat_fw-la quia_fw-la &_o precedens_fw-la affectus_fw-la locum_fw-la elegit_fw-la sanctum_fw-la &_o illic_fw-la corpore_fw-la posito_fw-la recordatus_fw-la locus_fw-la sanctus_fw-la eum_fw-la qui_fw-la praecesserat_fw-la renovat_fw-la &_o auget_fw-la offectum_fw-la cap._n 5._o h._n it_o may_v very_o much_o concern_v any_o where_o he_o shall_v place_v the_o body_n of_o his_o decease_a who_o pray_v for_o his_o spirit_n unto_o god_n because_o both_o the_o precede_a affection_n have_v choose_v a_o holy_a place_n and_o the_o body_n be_v place_v there_o the_o remembrance_n of_o that_o holy_a place_n renew_v and_o augment_v the_o affection_n that_o this_o be_v the_o true_a import_n of_o the_o place_n and_o that_o the_o benefit_n st._n austin_n speak_v of_o be_v to_o be_v expect_v not_o from_o any_o prayer_n put_v up_o unto_o the_o saint_n but_o partly_o from_o the_o desire_n of_o bury_v the_o decease_a by_o the_o martyr_n shrine_n upon_o presumption_n of_o some_o advantage_n he_o may_v receive_v by_o be_v there_o inter_v and_o partly_o from_o the_o increase_n of_o the_o affection_n of_o he_o that_o pray_v in_o that_o place_n to_o god_n be_v admirable_o evident_a from_o that_o which_o follow_v viz._n g._n viz._n cum_fw-la ergo_fw-la fide_fw-la lie_fw-la mater_fw-la fidelis_fw-la silij_fw-la defuncti_fw-la corpus_fw-la desideravit_fw-la in_o basilicam_fw-la martyris_fw-la poni_fw-la siquidem_fw-la credidu_fw-la ejus_fw-la animam_fw-la meritis_fw-la martyrt_v adjuvari_fw-la hoc_fw-la quod_fw-la ita_fw-la credidit_fw-la supplicatio_fw-la quae_v in_o fuit_fw-la &_o haec_fw-la profuit_fw-la siquid_fw-la profuit_fw-la &_o quod_fw-la ad_fw-la idem_fw-la sepnichrum_fw-la recurrit_fw-la anime_fw-mi &_o filium_fw-la precibus_fw-la magis_fw-la magisque_fw-la commendat_fw-la adjuvat_fw-la defuncti_fw-la spirtum_fw-la non_fw-la mortui_fw-la corporis_fw-la locus_fw-la sed_fw-la ex_fw-la loci_fw-la memoria_fw-la vivus_fw-la martyris_fw-la affectus_fw-la ibid_fw-la g._n when_o therefore_o a_o believe_a mother_n desire_v that_o the_o body_n of_o her_o son_n may_v be_v bury_v in_o the_o martyr_n temple_n as_o believe_v that_o his_o soul_n may_v be_v advantage_v by_o the_o merit_n of_o the_o martyr_n this_o very_a thing_n that_o she_o believe_v thus_o be_v a_o kind_n of_o prayer_n and_o if_o any_o thing_n profit_v it_o be_v this_o since_o therefore_o nothing_o else_o do_v in_o st._n augustine_n judgement_n profit_n certain_a it_o be_v he_o do_v not_o speak_v of_o prayer_n direct_v to_o the_o martyr_n for_o if_o so_o he_o can_v not_o have_v confess_v that_o the_o forementioned_a faith_n do_v only_o profit_n much_o less_o can_v he_o affirm_v it_o to_o be_v that_o supplication_n to_o the_o martyr_n which_o alone_o do_v profit_n last_o it_o be_v confess_v that_o basil_n nazianzen_n and_o nyssen_n do_v in_o their_o panegyrical_a oration_n seem_v to_o invocate_v the_o holy_a martyr_n but_o than_o it_o be_v apparent_a 1._o that_o they_o doubt_v whether_o these_o martyr_n have_v any_o sense_n or_o apprehension_n of_o the_o request_n put_v up_o unto_o they_o and_o therefore_o prefaced_a their_o address_n with_o a_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d if_o you_o have_v any_o sense_n 2._o they_o do_v ingenious_o confess_v that_o though_o they_o know_v they_o to_o be_v absent_a yet_o they_o be_v move_v to_o speak_v unto_o they_o as_o if_o they_o have_v be_v present_a and_o can_v hear_v they_o 3._o they_o make_v the_o like_a address_n to_o insensate_a creature_n of_o who_o they_o be_v assure_v that_o they_o can_v not_o hear_v they_o which_o make_v it_o reasonable_a to_o interpret_v their_o address_n rather_o as_o wish_n and_o rhetorical_a apostrophe_n than_o direct_a invocation_n and_o petition_n tender_v to_o they_o especial_o if_o we_o consider_v that_o all_o those_o father_n when_o they_o discourse_v of_o prayer_n define_v it_o to_o be_v a_o colloquy_n with_o god_n and_o therefore_o do_v not_o think_v that_o those_o address_n make_v unto_o the_o bless_a martyr_n have_v the_o true_a nature_n of_o a_o prayer_n moreover_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o they_o never_o offer_v any_o mental_a prayer_n to_o saint_n or_o angel_n and_o 2._o that_o they_o conceive_v the_o martyr_n present_v in_o those_o place_n where_o they_o offer_v these_o devotion_n and_o therefore_o be_v not_o guilty_a of_o those_o doctrine_n and_o unwarrantable_a practice_n for_o which_o especial_o we_o do_v condemn_v the_o roman_a church_n chap._n x._o the_o content_n the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n touch_v the_o invocation_n of_o the_o bless_a angel_n deliver_v from_o their_o own_o catechism_n and_o ritual_n sect._n 1_o the_o question_n state_v sect._n 2._o the_o idolatry_n of_o this_o practice_n prove_v 1._o this_o practice_n do_v ascribe_v unto_o they_o by_o way_n of_o worship_n what_o be_v proper_a to_o god_n viz._n the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o secret_n of_o the_o heart_n sect._n 3._o 2._o because_o it_o be_v the_o worship_n of_o the_o mind_n sect._n 4._o 3._o from_o the_o silence_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n sect._n 5._o a_o objection_n answer_v sect._n 6._o the_o reason_n of_o this_o silence_n which_o be_v allege_v by_o the_o romanist_n refute_v sect._n 7._o and_o from_o the_o silence_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n sect._n 8._o 4._o from_o the_o consideration_n of_o those_o principle_n whereby_o the_o romanist_n condemn_v white_a magic_n as_o a_o practice_n guilty_a of_o idolatry_n sect._n 9_o the_o catechism_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n 1._o §._o 1._o publish_v by_o the_o decree_n of_o the_o trent_n council_n give_v we_o the_o doctrine_n of_o that_o church_n touch_v the_o invocation_n of_o the_o holy_a angel_n in_o these_o word_n 10._o word_n extant_a divinae_fw-la scriptuae_fw-la testimonia_fw-la huius_fw-la invocationis_fw-la jacob_n enim_fw-la ab_fw-la angelo_n quicum_fw-la luctatus_fw-la fuerat_fw-la petit_fw-la ut_fw-la sibi_fw-la benedicat_fw-la immo_fw-la cogit_fw-la se_fw-la enim_fw-la non_fw-la dimissurum_fw-la illum_fw-la profitetur_fw-la nisi_fw-la benedictione_n accepta_fw-la neque_fw-la solum_fw-la sibi_fw-la ab_fw-la eo_fw-la tribui_fw-la quem_fw-la intuebatur_fw-la sed_fw-la ab_fw-la eo_fw-la etiam_fw-la quem_fw-la minimè_fw-la videbat_fw-la tum_fw-la cum_fw-la dixit_fw-la angelus_n qui_fw-la eruit_fw-la i_o de_fw-la cunctis_fw-la malis_fw-la benedicat_fw-la pveris_fw-la istis_fw-la catechis_n rom._n part_n 3._o cap._n 2._o see_n 10._o concern_v this_o invocation_n we_o have_v the_o testimony_n of_o the_o scripture_n extant_a for_o jacob_n request_v of_o the_o angel_n with_o who_o he_o wrestle_v that_o he_o will_v bless_v he_o and_o he_o compel_v he_o so_o to_o do_v for_o he_o profess_v that_o he_o will_v not_o let_v he_o go_v without_o his_o blessing_n nor_o do_v he_o only_o put_v up_o his_o petition_n unto_o the_o angel_n who_o he_o see_v but_o also_o unto_o he_o who_o he_o see_v not_o when_o he_o thus_o say_v the_o angel_n who_o deliver_v i_o from_o all_o evil_a bless_v the_o lad_n agreeable_a unto_o this_o doctrine_n be_v the_o continual_a practice_n of_o that_o church_n in_o her_o authentic_a liturgy_n for_o to_o st_n michael_n they_o pray_v thus_o 8._o thus_o sancte_fw-la michael_n archangele_n defend_z nos_fw-la in_o praelio_fw-la ut_fw-la non_fw-la percamus_fw-la in_o tremendo_fw-la judicio_fw-la miss_n festo_fw-la appar_fw-la sancti_fw-la mich._n maii._fw-la 8._o defend_v we_o in_o our_o warfare_n we_o thou_o pray_v lest_o we_o shall_v perish_v in_o the_o dreadful_a day_n in_o the_o roman_a ritual_a a_o die_a person_n be_v teach_v to_o pray_v with_o his_o heart_n when_o he_o can_v do_v it_o with_o his_o mouth_n thus_o 1617._o thus_o hortetur_fw-la praeterea_fw-la ut_fw-la co_fw-la modo_fw-la quo_fw-la potest_fw-la saltem_fw-la ex_fw-la cord_n ita_fw-la per_fw-la intervalla_fw-la precetur_fw-la maria_n mater_n gratiae_n mater_fw-la mifericordiae_fw-la tu_fw-la nos_fw-la ab_fw-la host_n protege_n &_o hora_fw-la mortis_fw-la suscipe_fw-la omnes_fw-la sancti_fw-la angeli_fw-la &_o omnes_fw-la sancti_fw-la intercedite_fw-la prome_fw-la &_o mihi_fw-la succurrite_fw-la rituale_fw-la ed._n antuerp_n 1617._o all_o you_o holy_a angel_n intercede_v for_o i_o and_o succour_v i_o to_o the_o guardian_n
advantage_n to_o our_o cause_n the_o father_n speak_v upon_o this_o text_n if_o we_o have_v nothing_o more_o to_o say_v but_o what_o they_o have_v deliver_v on_o these_o word_n yet_o shall_v we_o have_v what_o be_v abundant_o sufficient_a to_o confirm_v our_o faith_n and_o justify_v that_o imputation_n which_o we_o lie_v upon_o the_o cburch_n of_o rome_n for_o first_o they_o do_v express_o say_v that_o this_o exposition_n of_o t._n g._n and_o his_o infallible_a mother_n be_v not_o only_o false_a but_o a_o heretical_a exposition_n 15._o exposition_n ac_fw-la si_fw-la aliquis_fw-la haereticus_fw-la pertinaciter_fw-la obluctans_fw-la adversus_fw-la veritatem_fw-la voluerit_fw-la in_o his_o omnibus_fw-la exemplis_fw-la proprie_fw-la angelum_fw-la aut_fw-la intelligere_fw-la aut_fw-la intelligendum_fw-la esse_fw-la contenderit_fw-la in_o hoc_fw-la quoque_fw-la viribus_fw-la veritatis_fw-la frangatur_fw-la necesse_fw-la est_fw-la de_fw-fr trin._n c._n 15._o if_o any_o heretic_n say_v novatian_n who_o pertinacious_o strive_v against_o the_o truth_n will_v have_v we_o in_o all_o these_o example_n proper_o to_o understand_v the_o angel_n or_o will_v contend_v for_o such_o a_o sense_n of_o that_o expression_n in_o this_o he_o must_v assure_o be_v break_v by_o the_o force_n of_o truth_n this_o exposition_n of_o the_o papist_n say_v st._n cyril_n 115.116_o thesaur_n p._n 115.116_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i.e._n the_o sottish_a exposition_n of_o the_o arian_n the_o exposition_n of_o the_o protestant_n must_v therefore_o be_v both_o true_a and_o orthodox_n 2._o they_o add_v that_o 116._o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d cyril_n alexandr_n thesaur_n p._n 116._o if_o the_o enemy_n of_o christ_n do_v think_v that_o jacob_n be_v a_o holy_a man_n and_o one_o endn_v with_o the_o prophetic_a spirit_n when_o he_o speak_v these_o word_n they_o may_v be_v well_o ashamed_a to_o charge_v he_o with_o so_o gross_a a_o error_n as_o be_v the_o invocation_n of_o a_o angel_n with_o god_n this_o custom_n therefore_o of_o put_v up_o the_o same_o petition_n in_o the_o same_o sentence_n to_o god_n and_o to_o the_o bless_a angel_n or_o to_o god_n and_o to_o the_o saint_n or_o angel_n must_v be_v acknowledge_v to_o be_v a_o thing_n arr._n thing_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d orat._n 4_o contr_n arr._n exceed_o repugnant_a to_o the_o doctrine_n which_o then_o obtain_v in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n and_o that_o which_o they_o esteem_v the_o 115._o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d b._n cyrill_n alexandr_n thesau_n p._n 115._o gross_a error_n 3_o they_o give_v we_o this_o as_o a_o sufficient_a evidence_n that_o jacob_n speak_v not_o to_o a_o creature_n because_o he_o say_v 260._o orat._n 4._o contra_fw-la arian_n p._n 260._o the_o angel_n that_o deliver_v i_o from_o all_o evil_n hence_o it_o be_v manifest_a say_v athanasius_n and_o st._n cyril_n that_o he_o do_v not_o speak_v of_o a_o create_a angel_n but_o of_o the_o angel_n of_o the_o covenant_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o these_o petition_n prescribe_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o often_o tender_v both_o to_o saint_n and_o angel_n be_v in_o the_o judgement_n of_o these_o father_n such_o as_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v tender_v to_o a_o creature_n and_o so_o be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n as_o therefore_o athanasius_n to_o the_o arian_n so_o say_v i_o to_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n 369._o rome_n contr._n arian_n ora_fw-la 2._o p._n 369._o let_v they_o know_v that_o never_o any_o good_a man_n put_v up_o such_o a_o prayer_n to_o any_o thing_n that_o be_v beget_v they_o be_v teach_v by_o christ_n to_o pray_v to_o god_n the_o father_n to_o be_v deliver_v from_o all_o evil._n 8._o c._n 16._o v._n 8._o and_o by_o the_o son_n of_o syrach_n to_o confess_v that_o it_o be_v he_o who_o deliver_v from_o all_o evil_a and_o this_o interpretation_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n will_v manifest_o appear_v to_o be_v the_o truth_n if_o we_o consider_v who_o this_o angel_n be_v for_o the_o angel_n who_o deliver_v he_o from_o all_o evil_a must_v be_v that_o very_a angel_n which_o deliver_v he_o from_o laban_n wrath_n and_o from_o the_o fury_n of_o his_o brother_n esau_n now_o the_o angel_n which_o say_v unto_o he_o i_o have_v see_v all_o that_o laban_n do_v unto_o thou_o 13._o 31_o gen._n 13.20_o 28_o gen._n 13._o return_v thou_o therefore_o into_o the_o land_n of_o thy_o kindred_n be_v the_o god_n of_o bethel_n the_o god_n to_o who_o he_o vow_v a_o vow_n that_o god_n who_o do_v appear_v in_o haran_n to_o he_o it_o be_v the_o god_n of_o his_o father_n abraham_n and_o the_o fear_n of_o isaac_n that_o rebuke_v laban_n and_o charge_v he_o not_o to_o do_v he_o hurt_v 4._o v._o 29.42.32_o gen._n 23._o 12_o hos_fw-la 4._o the_o angel_n that_o he_o wrestle_v with_o and_o with_o who_o he_o prevail_v be_v the_o god_n of_o heaven_n last_o it_o be_v his_o prayer_n to_o this_o god_n that_o make_v his_o brother_n esau_n melt_v into_o expression_n of_o the_o great_a love_n 2._o i_o answer_v this_o be_v no_o prayer_n but_o a_o wish_v thus_o when_o st._n paul_n conclude_v in_o his_o epistle_n to_o the_o church_n of_o corinth_n the_o grace_n of_o the_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n and_o the_o love_n of_o god_n 13.14_o 2_o cor._n 13.14_o and_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v with_o you_o all_o i_o hope_v he_o do_v not_o pray_v unto_o the_o grace_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o love_n of_o god_n and_o the_o communication_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n so_o then_o this_o passage_n may_v be_v thus_o expound_v i_o wish_v to_o god_n that_o he_o and_o that_o good_a angel_n who_o under_o he_o preserve_v i_o from_o all_o evil_n may_v preserve_v the_o lad_n some_o roman_a catholic_n confess_v that_o which_o we_o now_o contend_v for_o and_o tell_v we_o 18._o vide_fw-la vossium_n de_fw-fr invoc_n sanct._n disp_n 2_o th._n 18._o that_o although_o this_o practice_n in_o its_o self_n be_v good_a and_o profitable_a god_n will_v not_o suffer_v his_o own_o people_n to_o invoke_v these_o bless_a spirit_n lest_o they_o shall_v worship_v they_o as_o god_n idolatry_n be_v a_o vice_n they_o be_v so_o prone_a upon_o the_o least_o occasion_n to_o commit_v answer_v we_o find_v that_o notwithstanding_o the_o proneness_n of_o this_o people_n to_o that_o sin_n god_n often_o do_v appear_v in_o the_o similitude_n of_o angel_n to_o they_o he_o use_v the_o ministry_n of_o angel_n in_o the_o delivery_n of_o that_o law_n they_o do_v so_o high_o reverence_n he_o use_v their_o ministry_n both_o in_o confer_v of_o the_o choice_a blessing_n on_o his_o people_n and_o the_o inflict_a of_o the_o most_o remarkable_a judgement_n both_o on_o they_o and_o on_o their_o enemy_n and_o he_o deliver_v those_o thing_n touch_v the_o ministry_n and_o custody_n of_o holy_a angel_n which_o romanist_n conceive_v to_o be_v sufficient_a ground_n and_o motive_n for_o their_o invocation_n whence_o we_o may_v very_o well_o conclude_v it_o be_v not_o out_o of_o fear_n of_o any_o proneness_n of_o that_o people_n to_o this_o idolatry_n that_o he_o do_v not_o enjoin_v this_o practice_n but_o only_o because_o he_o be_v a_o jealous_a god_n and_o will_v not_o give_v his_o honour_n to_o another_o against_o the_o worship_n of_o a_o image_n or_o of_o the_o host_n of_o heaven_n or_o any_o other_o god_n which_o by_o the_o heathen_n be_v still_o worship_v under_o some_o visible_a representation_n we_o have_v frequent_a caution_n and_o very_o dreadful_a threaten_n in_o moses_n and_o the_o prophet_n but_o against_o this_o idolatry_n of_o worship_v those_o spirit_n which_o in_o their_o nature_n be_v invisible_a those_o writing_n give_v we_o not_o one_o caution_n or_o prohibition_n though_o they_o do_v often_o call_v they_o god_n of_o which_o affair_n i_o be_o not_o able_a to_o conceive_v a_o better_a reason_n than_o this_o be_v that_o it_o be_v just_a matter_n of_o suspicion_n that_o this_o rude_a heavy_a people_n may_v be_v prone_a to_o worship_v what_o they_o see_v but_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v fear_v that_o they_o shall_v worship_v what_o be_v invisible_a and_o seldom_o do_v appear_v and_o hence_o we_o find_v this_o people_n continual_o revolt_a from_o the_o invisible_a jehovah_n to_o the_o sun_n moon_n and_o star_n and_o to_o the_o heathen_a deity_n but_o never_o do_v we_o find_v they_o in_o the_o least_o incline_v to_o the_o worship_n of_o these_o bless_a spirit_n moreover_o if_o we_o do_v consider_v that_o in_o the_o whole_a new_a testament_n 8._o §_o 8._o we_o have_v not_o any_o precept_n to_o enjoin_v example_n to_o commend_v or_o promise_v to_o encourage_v we_o unto_o this_o invocation_n we_o have_v a_o further_a reason_n to_o believe_v that_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n disapprove_v of_o it_o for_o can_v we_o think_v that_o christ_n himself_o and_o all_o his_o servant_n and_o apostle_n will_v have_v neglect_v to_o
the_o very_a ground_n and_o reason_n of_o that_o practice_n viz._n the_o benefit_n we_o may_v receive_v by_o put_v up_o request_n unto_o they_o and_o the_o concernment_n which_o lie_v upon_o we_o so_o to_o do_v in_o order_n to_o our_o preservation_n from_o all_o evil_a and_o the_o obtainment_n of_o the_o great_a blessing_n for_o he_o express_o tell_v we_o our_o care_n must_v be_v to_o get_v his_o favour_n who_o alone_o be_v god_n and_o that_o if_o celsus_n or_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n will_v have_v we_o to_o procure_v the_o favour_n of_o the_o inferior_a being_n he_o must_v know_v that_o all_o good_a spirit_n soul_n and_o angel_n if_o we_o do_v obtain_v god_n favour_n when_o we_o pray_v to_o he_o they_o need_v not_o be_v call_v upon_o for_o the_o assistance_n of_o their_o prayer_n for_o they_o will_v pray_v together_o with_o we_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d not_o be_v call_v upon_o so_o to_o do_v this_o he_o do_v frequent_o repeat_v and_o indeed_o it_o be_v the_o common_a language_n of_o those_o time_n he_o live_v in_o witness_v the_o like_a expression_n of_o arnobius_n 101._o arnobius_n in_o ho_o omne_fw-la quod_fw-la colendum_fw-la est_fw-la colimus_fw-la quod_fw-la adorari_fw-la convenit_fw-la adoramus_fw-la quod_fw-la obsequium_fw-la venerationis_fw-la exposcit_fw-la venerationibus_fw-la promeremur_fw-la cum_fw-la enim_fw-la divinitatis_fw-la ipsius_fw-la tencamus_fw-la caput_fw-la à _fw-la quo_fw-la ipsa_fw-la divinitas_fw-la divorum_fw-la omnium_fw-la quicunque_fw-la sunt_fw-la ducitur_fw-la supervacuum_fw-la putamus_fw-la personas_fw-la ire_n per_fw-la singulas_fw-la cum_fw-la &_o ipsi_fw-la qui_fw-la sint_fw-la &_o quae_fw-la habeant_fw-la nomina_fw-la nesciamus_fw-la &_o cujus_fw-la sint_fw-la praeterea_fw-la numeri_fw-la neque_fw-la liquidum_fw-la neque_fw-la comprehensum_fw-la neque_fw-la exploratum_fw-la habere_fw-la possimus_fw-la atque_fw-la ut_fw-la in_o terrestribus_fw-la regnis_fw-la necessitate_v nulla_fw-la compellimur_fw-la regalibus_fw-la in_o familiis_fw-la constitutos_fw-la nominatim_fw-la cum_fw-la principibus_fw-la adorare_fw-la sed_fw-la in_o regum_fw-la ipsorum_fw-la cultu_fw-la quicquid_fw-la illis_fw-la annexum_fw-la est_fw-la tacita_fw-la &_o se_fw-la sentit_fw-la honorificentia_fw-la comprehendi_fw-la non_fw-la alia_fw-la ratione_fw-la quicunque_fw-la hi_o dii_fw-la sunt_fw-la quos_fw-la esse_fw-la nobis_fw-la proponitis_fw-la fi_fw-la sint_fw-la progeny_n regius_fw-la &_o principali_fw-la oriuntur_fw-la è_fw-la capite_fw-la etiam_fw-la si_fw-la nullos_fw-la accipiant_fw-la nominatim_fw-la à _fw-la nobis_fw-la cultus_fw-la intelligunt_fw-la se_fw-la tamen_fw-la honorari_fw-la communiter_fw-la cum_fw-la svo_fw-la rege_fw-la atque_fw-la in_o illius_fw-la venerationibus_fw-la contineri_fw-la arnobius_n contra_fw-la gentes_fw-la lib._n 3_o p._n 101._o in_o worship_v the_o father_n and_o the_o lord_n of_o all_o thing_n we_o worship_v all_o thing_n that_o be_v to_o be_v worship_v we_o adore_v all_o thing_n that_o may_v convenient_o be_v adore_v we_o venerate_v all_o that_o call_v for_o veneration_n for_o hold_v to_o the_o head_n from_o whence_o these_o divi_z borrow_v their_o divinity_n we_o think_v it_o needless_a to_o go_v to_o every_o person_n see_v we_o know_v not_o what_o they_o be_v what_o name_v they_o have_v or_o of_o what_o order_n they_o may_v be_v and_o as_o in_o honour_v the_o king_n we_o honour_v all_o that_o do_v belong_v unto_o he_o so_o what_o ever_o god_n you_o do_v propose_v unto_o we_o if_o they_o be_v of_o this_o kingly_a progeny_n and_o do_v belong_v unto_o this_o head_n although_o they_o do_v receive_v no_o worship_n from_o we_o they_o understand_v that_o they_o be_v worship_v together_o with_o their_o king_n and_o be_v include_v in_o that_o veneration_n which_o we_o pay_v to_o he_o 4._o this_o answer_n render_v the_o discourse_n of_o origen_n impertinent_a and_o a_o perfect_a declination_n of_o the_o question_n betwixt_o he_o and_o celsus_n for_o celsus_n thus_o dispute_v no_o god_n nor_o any_o son_n of_o god_n can_v possible_o descend_v from_o heaven_n but_o if_o you_o do_v assert_v this_o of_o the_o angel_n of_o god_n these_o be_v no_o other_o than_o our_o daemon_n 23â—_n orig._n l._n 7._o 5._o p._n 23â—_n to_o this_o st._n origen_n return_v this_o answer_n 1._o that_o to_o deny_v that_o any_o god_n descend_v from_o heaven_n be_v to_o deny_v what_o be_v esteem_v a_o thing_n common_a by_o the_o heathen_a world_n 2._o that_o christian_n do_v indeed_o confess_v this_o be_v the_o office_n of_o the_o angel_n to_o come_v down_o from_o and_o to_o ascend_v to_o heaven_n and_o to_o offer_v up_o the_o prayer_n of_o man_n to_o god_n but_o yet_o say_v he_o we_o must_v not_o worship_v they_o as_o god_n for_o all_o our_o prayer_n must_v be_v direct_v to_o god_n and_o to_o his_o son_n christ_n jesus_n who_o be_v the_o live_a word_n and_o god_n which_o argument_n if_o it_o have_v any_o strength_n at_o all_o consist_v in_o this_o that_o whiâ—h_v you_o must_v not_o worship_n and_o adore_v as_o god_n you_o must_v not_o pray_v unto_o but_o angel_n you_o must_v not_o worship_n and_o adore_v as_o god_n ergo_fw-la angel_n you_o must_v not_o pray_v unto_o this_o be_v that_o father_n plea_n to_o which_o t._n g._n may_v answer_v in_o behalf_n of_o celsus_n as_o well_o as_o of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n that_o he_o apparent_o distinguish_v those_o angel_n both_o from_o god_n and_o from_o the_o son_n of_o god_n and_o therefore_o do_v not_o contend_v that_o we_o shall_v pray_v unto_o they_o as_o to_o that_o god_n who_o be_v the_o author_n of_o all_o good_a but_o only_o as_o to_o the_o minister_n and_o servant_n of_o god_n who_o he_o appoint_v to_o preside_v over_o such_o person_n family_n and_o country_n and_o therefore_o he_o be_v content_v only_o that_o it_o may_v be_v lawful_a to_o say_v unto_o they_o as_o do_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o st._n sebastian_n cerne_n familiam_fw-la tuam_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la behold_v thy_o family_n and_o to_o st._n gabriel_n preserve_v thy_o country_n 2._o 〈◊〉_d 2._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d celsus_n object_n that_o if_o with_o god_n we_o do_v adore_v his_o son_n then_o may_v we_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d venerate_v his_o minister_n to_o this_o st._n origen_n reply_v that_o if_o 386._o if_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d orig._n contra_fw-la celsum_fw-la lib._n 8._o p._n 386._o celsus_n by_o the_o minister_n of_o god_n have_v understand_v gabriel_n and_o michael_n and_o other_o angel_n and_o archangel_n and_o have_v contend_v that_o they_o shall_v be_v venerate_v perpaps_o by_o purify_n of_o the_o word_n and_o of_o the_o action_n of_o the_o venerator_n we_o may_v say_v something_o of_o that_o matter_n i.e._n perhaps_o some_o action_n which_o in_o some_o sense_n may_v bear_v the_o name_n of_o veneration_n may_v be_v perform_v to_o those_o angel_n this_o t._n g._n think_v a_o great_a advantage_n to_o his_o cause_n and_o wonder_n that_o the_o doctor_n will_v produce_v this_o passage_n but_o i_o conceive_v it_o be_v the_o clear_a confutation_n of_o it_o that_o we_o can_v desire_v for_o have_v grant_v this_o and_o then_o restrain_v our_o petition_n unto_o god_n the_o father_n and_o his_o son_n jesus_n christ_n as_o he_o express_o do_v he_o most_o apparent_o demonstrate_v that_o prayer_n can_v be_v no_o part_n of_o the_o forementioned_a service_n he_o allow_v to_o saint_n 2._o in_o that_o he_o thus_o distinguish_v of_o veneration_n and_o never_o do_v distinguish_v in_o the_o like_a manner_n of_o prayer_n and_o supplication_n or_o of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d id_fw-la est_fw-la of_o adoration_n and_o worship_n it_o follow_v that_o although_o he_o think_v some_o veneration_n may_v be_v allow_v to_o angel_n in_o some_o inferior_a kind_n yet_o no_o petition_n be_v to_o be_v put_v up_o unto_o they_o and_o that_o no_o worship_n and_o adoration_n shall_v be_v give_v unto_o they_o 3._o when_o origen_n in_o answer_n to_o this_o passage_n say_v ibid._n say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d id._n ibid._n we_o christian_n venerate_a with_o supplication_n only_a god_n and_o his_o son_n jesus_n christ_n and_o put_v up_o our_o petition_n to_o god_n by_o his_o only_a son_n if_o he_o do_v understand_v only_o such_o supplication_n as_o be_v make_v to_o he_o as_o to_o the_o author_n of_o all_o good_a he_o be_v as_o vain_a and_o impertinent_a as_o t._n g._n in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o dr._n for_o celsus_n only_o do_v contend_v for_o such_o a_o worship_n and_o consequent_o for_o such_o address_n only_o as_o agree_v unto_o the_o minister_n and_o servant_n of_o god_n 4._o origen_n plain_o do_v inform_v we_o that_o the_o veneration_n he_o allow_v to_o angel_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 416._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d id._n l._n 8._o p._n 416._o to_o speak_v well_o of_o they_o and_o pronounce_v they_o bless_v and_o imitate_v to_o their_o virtue_n and_o what_o be_v this_o to_o supplication_n 3._o celsus_n object_n that_o daemon_n do_v belong_v to_o god_n and_o therefore_o must_v be_v pray_v unto_o and_o