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A15431 Tetrastylon papisticum, that is, The foure principal pillers of papistrie the first conteyning their raylings, slanders, forgeries, vntruthes: the second their blasphemies, flat contradictions to scripture, heresies, absurdities: the third their loose arguments, weake solutions, subtill distinctions: the fourth and last the repugnant opinions of new papistes with the old; of the new one with an other; of the same writers with themselues: yea of popish religion with and in it selfe. Compiled as a necessarie supplement or fit appertinance to the authors former worke, intituled Synopsis papismi: to the glorie of God for the dissuading of light-minded men from trusting to the sandie foundation of poperie, and to exhort good Christians stedfastlie to hold the rockie foundation of faith in the Gospell. Willet, Andrew, 1562-1621. 1593 (1593) STC 25701; ESTC S119967 179,229 213

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strange_a article_n against_o he_o which_o he_o never_o think_v as_o that_o he_o shall_v say_v that_o saint_n gregory_n when_o they_o allege_v his_o authority_n against_o he_o be_v but_o a_o rime●_n wherein_o john_n husse_v himself_o answer_v that_o they_o do_v he_o great_a injury_n for_o so_o much_o as_o he_o always_o esteem_v and_o repute_v s._n gregory_n for_o a_o most_o holy_a doctor_n of_o the_o church_n fox_n pag._n 606._o thus_o it_o be_v false_o object_v against_o the_o same_o john_n husse_v in_o the_o council_n of_o constance_n where_o he_o be_v most_o unjust_o condemn_v that_o he_o say_v there_o shall_v be_v a_o four_o person_n in_o divinity_n and_o that_o a_o doctor_n hear_v he_o to_o speak_v the_o same_o john_n husse_v desire_v the_o doctor_n may_v be_v name_v which_o not_o obtain_v he_o thus_o cry_v out_o o_o miserable_a and_o wretched_a man_n that_o i_o be_o which_o be_o force_v and_o compel_v to_o bear_v such_o blasphemy_n and_o slander_n fox_n p._n 622._o this_o be_v as_o we_o see_v the_o guise_n of_o the_o old_a papist_n thus_o without_o all_o fear_n to_o slander_v the_o child_n of_o god_n who_o offspring_n i_o mean_v the_o papist_n of_o latter_a time_n do_v tread_v in_o the_o same_o their_o father_n step_n so_o be_v m._n tindall_n that_o faithful_a servant_n of_o god_n abuse_v by_o they_o upon_o who_o they_o father_v many_o false_a article_n as_o that_o he_o shall_v say_v that_o it_o be_v impossible_a for_o we_o to_o consent_v to_o the_o will_n of_o god_n fox_n p._n 1247._o artic._n 3._o whereas_o he_o mean_v and_o so_o speak_v that_o by_o nature_n it_o be_v impossible_a no_o otherwise_o than_o the_o apostle_n say_v that_o the_o wisdom_n of_o the_o flesh_n be_v not_o subject_a to_o the_o law_n of_o god_n neither_o in_o deed_n can_v be_v that_o he_o shall_v say_v every_o man_n be_v lord_n of_o another_o man_n good_n as_o though_o he_o shall_v favour_v the_o anabaptisticall_a community_n p._n 1248._o articl_n 18._o tindals_n word_n be_v these_o if_o thy_o brother_n or_o neighbour_n need_n and_o thou_o have_v to_o help_v he_o and_o yet_o show_v no_o mercy_n but_o withdrawe_v thy_o hand_n from_o he_o thou_o rob_v he_o of_o his_o own_o that_o he_o shall_v say_v the_o worst_a turk_n have_v as_o much_o right_n to_o my_o good_n at_o his_o need_n as_o my_o household_n or_o i_o own_o self_n p._n 1248._o articl_n 20._o tyndall_n say_v and_o write_v thus_o if_o thy_o neighbour_n which_o thou_o know_v be_v serve_v and_o thou_o have_v yet_o superfluity_n to_o the_o very_a infidel_n we_o be_v debtor_n if_o they_o need_v as_o far_o forth_o as_o we_o maintain_v they_o not_o against_o christ._n lo_o here_o be_v no_o mention_n make_v of_o any_o turk_n and_o express_o he_o say_v that_o our_o neighbour_n &_o so_o our_o own_o family_n be_v to_o be_v prefer_v the_o rest_n to_o have_v of_o the_o remainder_n &_o superfluity_n be_v not_o this_o great_a heresy_n think_v you_o that_o christ_n take_v away_o all_o law_n and_o make_v we_o free_a and_o 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no_o vow_n of_o chastity_n fox_n p._n 187._o artic_a 17._o likewise_o to_o let_v pass_v how_o the_o pope_n himself_o make_v a_o loud_a lie_n in_o his_o bull_n against_o luther_n say_v that_o he_o offer_v money_n to_o luther_n to_o come_v up_o to_o rome_n whereas_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o there_o be_v 300_o crown_n give_v to_o ruffian_n &_o catchpole_n to_o murder_n luther_n p._n 1287._o but_o i_o will_v not_o rub_v this_o sore_a too_o long_o that_o which_o i_o have_v already_o say_v may_v serve_v as_o a_o taste_n &_o trial_n of_o their_o lie_a spirit_n unto_o these_o untruth_n and_o lie_n may_v be_v add_v also_o the_o fable_n and_o devise_v tale_n which_o go_v for_o currant_n among_o papist_n which_o be_v not_o the_o least_o prop_n and_o stay_v of_o popish_a superstition_n of_o this_o kind_n be_v that_o fabulous_a story_n that_o the_o wise_a man_n which_o come_v from_o the_o east_n to_o worship_n christ_n be_v 3._o king_n of_o persia_n who_o name_n be_v as_o the_o tale_n go_v 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