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jesuite_n and_o other_o do_v affirm_v 32._o affirm_v in_o cap_n 17._o mat._n â—om_n 2._o lib._n 10._o cap._n 32._o to_o honour_v he_o above_o the_o rest_n as_o the_o prince_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o the_o head_n of_o the_o church_n see_v abulensis_n q._n 198._o 199._o and_o 200._o in_o cap._n 17._o mat._n and_o barradius_fw-la upon_o this_o place_n 26_o second_o although_o we_o shall_v grant_v that_o our_o saviour_n do_v for_o some_o special_a cause_n exempt_v s._n peter_n from_o pay_v tribute_n to_o caesar_n either_o by_o a_o personal_a privilege_n or_o else_o real_a and_o descend_v to_o his_o successor_n it_o do_v not_o therefore_o follow_v that_o he_o do_v exempt_v he_o from_o all_o civil_a subjection_n to_o temporal_a prince_n as_o neither_o do_v it_o follow_v that_o because_o the_o child_n of_o king_n for_o that_o their_o good_n and_o their_o father_n be_v common_a or_o any_o of_o the_o king_n servant_n be_v by_o special_a privilege_n exempt_v from_o pay_v tribute_n they_o be_v 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the_o end_n of_o the_o temporal_a and_o spiritual_a power_n to_o prove_v that_o the_o temporal_a power_n among_o christian_n as_o it_o be_v temporal_a be_v subject_a to_o the_o ecclesiastical_a as_o it_o be_v ecclesiastical_a be_v propound_v widdringtons_n answer_n to_o the_o same_o relate_v and_o d._n schulckenius_n reply_v thereunto_o clear_o confute_v chap._n 6._o wherein_o card._n bellarmine_n second_o argument_n to_o prove_v the_o same_o take_v from_o the_o union_n of_o king_n and_o bishop_n clerk_n and_o laikes_n in_o one_o church_n be_v rehearse_v the_o answer_n of_o widdrington_n of_o mr._n d._n barclay_n and_o of_o mr._n john_n barclay_n thereunto_o be_v relate_v and_o card._n bellarmine_n reply_n to_o the_o same_o be_v most_o clear_o overthrow_v chap._n 7._o wherein_o card._n bellarmine_n three_o argument_n to_o prove_v the_o same_o take_v from_o the_o obligation_n by_o which_o christian_n prince_n be_v bind_v to_o change_v their_o temporal_a government_n if_o it_o hinder_v 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