Selected quad for the lemma: church_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
church_n ancient_a scripture_n true_a 3,390 5 4.3044 3 false
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A39999 Rectius instruendum, or, A review and examination of the doctrine presented by one assuming the name of ane [sic] informer in three dialogues with a certain doubter, upon the controverted points of episcopacy, the convenants against episcopacy and separation : wherein the unsoundnes, and (in manythinges) the inconsistency of the informers principles, arguments, and answers upon these points, the violence which he hath offred unto the Holy Scripture and to diverse authors ancient and modern, is demonstrat and made appear, and that truth which is after godlines owned by the true Protestant Presbyterian Church of Scotland asserted and vindicated. Forrester, Thomas, 1635?-1706. 1684 (1684) Wing F1597; ESTC R36468 441,276 728

There are 60 snippets containing the selected quad. | View original text

rectius_fw-la instruendum_fw-la or_o a_o review_n and_o examination_n of_o the_o doctrine_n present_v by_o one_o assume_v the_o name_n of_o one_fw-mi informer_n in_o three_o dialogue_n with_o a_o certain_a doubter_n upon_o the_o controvert_v point_n of_o episcopacy_n the_o covenant_n against_o episcopacy_n and_o separation_n wherein_o the_o unsoundnes_n and_o in_o many_o thing_n the_o inconsistency_n of_o the_o informer_n principle_n argument_n and_o answer_n upon_o these_o point_n the_o violence_n which_o he_o have_v offer_v unto_o the_o holy_a scripture_n and_o to_o diverse_a author_n ancient_a and_o modern_a be_v demonstrat_fw-la and_o make_v appear_v and_o that_o truth_n which_o be_v after_o godliness_n own_v by_o the_o true_a protestant_n presbyterian_a church_n of_o scotland_n assert_v and_o vindicate_v prov_n 19_o 27_o cease_v myson_n to_o hear_v the_o instruction_n that_o cause_v to_o err_v from_o the_o word_n of_o knowledge_n print_a in_o the_o year_n 1684._o the_o preface_n to_o the_o reader_n christian_n reader_n that_o which_o the_o wiseman_n long_o since_o offer_v to_o their_o consideration_n who_o observe_v the_o revolve_v course_n of_o providence_n be_v there_o any_o thing_n whereof_o it_o may_v be_v say_v this_o be_v new_a have_v its_o signal_n accomplishment_n in_o the_o renew_a collision_n of_o opinion_n and_o debeat_n the_o conflict_n betwixt_o truth_n and_o error_n or_o not_o of_o yesterday_o but_o as_o early_o as_o the_o morning_n of_o time_n when_o he_o who_o be_v a_o liar_n from_o the_o beginning_n assault_v with_o a_o horrid_a calumny_n the_o truth_n and_o faithfulness_n of_o god_n and_o have_v by_o a_o lie_n mad_a a_o breach_n in_o our_o first_o parent_n integrity_n by_o induce_v they_o to_o believe_v it_o instilld_v his_o poison_n into_o our_o nature_n a_o love_n of_o darkness_n rather_o than_o light_v the_o eye_n of_o the_o understanding_n like_o nature_n bodily_a organ_n when_o its_o cristalin_a humour_n be_v vitiat_fw-la can_v see_v and_o receive_v the_o impression_n of_o its_o object_n truth_n and_o duty_n in_o its_o lively_a colour_n and_o nat●…_n simplicity_n and_o if_o sometime_o the_o clear_a beam_n of_o truth_n force_v a_o passage_n for_o itself_o &_o make_v some_o impression_n upon_o the_o perverse_a &_o dark_a mind_n of_o man_n o_o how_o quick_o be_v that_o little_a victory_n lose_v this_o begin_a signature_n obliterat_fw-la by_o the_o rebellious_a will_n &_o affection_n the_o carnal_a mind_n be_v not_o subject_a to_o the_o law_n of_o god_n nor_o can_v be_v hence_o truth_n be_v detain_v in_o unrightiousness_n conviction_n stifle_v and_o the_o convince_a spirit_n of_o god_n counteracted_a and_o grieve_a hence_o all_o the_o renew_v plead_n for_o &_o discovery_n of_o truth_n beget_v in_o most_o man_n by_o a_o woeful_a antiperistasis_n nothing_o but_o renew_a contradiction_n &_o spurning_n against_o it_o while_o as_o the_o sun_n vigorous_a influence_n upon_o the_o vapour_n of_o this_o dull_a earth_n by_o its_o irradiation_n it_o attract_v and_o condense_n thick_a fog_n dark_a cloud_n of_o perverse_a dispute_n the_o more_o to_o obscure_v itself_o yet_o a_o holy_a seed_n there_o be_v and_o have_v be_v in_o all_o generation_n child_n of_o light_n and_o of_o the_o day_n who_o work_n and_o honourable_a badge_n it_o be_v to_o contend_v and_o be_v valiant_a for_o the_o truth_n who_o under_o the_o conduct_n of_o michael_n that_o great_a prince_n who_o stand_v up_o for_o his_o people_n truth_n sincere_a lover_n and_o asserter_n have_v from_o the_o beginning_n war_v this_o good_a warfare_n against_o that_o old_a apostate_n and_o his_o follower_n so_o that_o the_o war_n which_o john_n see_v in_o heaven_n betwixt_o michael_n and_o the_o dragon_n be_v not_o then_o only_o begin_v but_o a_o new_a battle_n and_o encounter_n of_o that_o old_a war_n proclaim_v in_o paradise_n betwixt_o the_o seed_n of_o the_o woman_n and_o the_o serpent_n all_o man_n be_v enrol_v in_o one_o of_o these_o two_o army_n imbarque_v in_o one_o of_o these_o interest_n according_a as_o they_o be_v regenerate_v or_o unregenerat_v as_o they_o have_v the_o seed_n of_o god_n in_o they_o or_o not_o &_o discoury_n of_o truth_n have_v various_a effect_n according_o either_o of_o more_o intense_a love_n or_o violent_a hatred_n as_o the_o sun_n shine_v upon_o the_o flower_n &_o dunghill_n draw_v equal_o forth_o a_o sweet_a &_o stink_a savour_n the_o erect_n of_o this_o royal_a stand_n art_n of_o zions_n king_n and_o lawgiver_n ingadge_v his_o faithful_a witness_n to_o flow_v unto_o it_o and_o come_v under_o it_o and_o excit_v such_o who_o have_v but_o the_o spirit_n of_o that_o world_n in_o they_o to_o a_o counter-must_a against_o it_o who_o will_v not_o have_v think_v that_o the_o long_v for_o appearance_n of_o that_o immanuel_n and_o desire_v of_o all_o nation_n that_o eternal_a word_n and_o wisdom_n of_o god_n in_o the_o flesh_n shall_v have_v put_v a_o end_n to_o all_o rebellion_n of_o wretched_a sinner_n aga●…_n he_o but_o it_o never_o grow_v more_o then_o by_o his_o convince_a discoury_n of_o himself_o eternal_a truth_n and_o holiness_n suffer_v contradiction_n of_o sinner_n against_o himself_o he_o oft_o silence_a enemy_n reason_v not_o their_o malice_n and_o the_o most_o admirable_a act_n of_o his_o effectionat_a condescend_v love_n to_o man_n the_o give_v of_o himself_o to_o death_n for_o they_o be_v entertain_v with_o the_o most_o virulent_a and_o hellish_a eruption_n of_o their_o wrath_n against_o he_o in_o murder_a he_o the_o ruler_n oppose_v this_o great_a ruler_n of_o israel_n the_o learned_a scribe_n and_o rabbis_n with_o all_o their_o literal_a knowledge_n of_o moses_n and_o the_o prophet_n can_v not_o yea_o will_v not_o see_v and_o acknowledge_v this_o great_a prophet_n the_o covenant_v people_n will_v not_o receive_v this_o great_a messenger_n of_o the_o covenant_n and_o they_o who_o boast_v to_o be_v abraham_n seed_n reject_v this_o promise_a seed_n can_v not_o see_v he_o when_o among_o they_o but_o hate_v he_o who_o abraham_n see_v a_o far_o off_o and_o rejoice_v in_o the_o discovery_n yet_o this_o wisdom_n of_o god_n be_v then_o and_o still_o be_v justify_v of_o all_o child_n of_o god_n and_o such_o as_o be_v of_o the_o truth_n will_v see_v its_o beauty_n throw_v all_o the_o mist_n of_o man_n calumny_n and_o contending_n against_o it_o the_o angry_a cloud_n wherewith_o god_n have_v now_o of_o a_o considerable_a time_n cover_v the_o daughter_n of_o zion_n in_o our_o land_n challenge_v in_o this_o as_o much_o as_o in_o any_o thing_n else_o our_o mournful_a observation_n &_o simpathize_v compassion_n that_o man_n have_v take_v the_o boldness_n with_o perverse_a dispute_n to_o infest_v her_o true_a son_n and_o child_n to_o assault_v she_o precius_fw-la ordinance_n and_o privilege_n and_o with_o a_o barefaced_a impudence_n to_o endeavour_v the_o removal_n of_o the_o ancient_a land_n mark_n which_o our_o father_n have_v set_v nay_o which_o the_o great_a god_n have_v establish_v yea_o to_o cajoll_v we_o with_o poor_a sophistry_n into_o a_o careless_a disregard_n and_o abandon_v of_o the_o magnalia_fw-la dei_fw-la the_o great_a thing_n of_o god_n law_n important_a truth_n and_o duty_n as_o if_o they_o be_v mere_a trifle_n and_o indifferency_n to_o cast_v the_o aspersion_n of_o supercilius_fw-la scrupulositie_n upon_o true_a zeal_n for_o god_n of_o rebellion_n upon_o true_a loyalti_fw-la and_o faithfulness_n to_o the_o king_n of_o saint_n of_o devisive_a humour_n upon_o sincer_n endeavour_v after_o the_o union_n and_o true_a order_n of_o the_o house_n of_o god_n be_v it_o not_o to_o put_v light_n for_o darkness_n and_o darkness_n for_o light_n bitter_a for_o wee●…t_n and_o sweet_a for_o bitter_a yea_o cru●…_n percilius_fw-la mockrie_n yet_o at_o this_o rate_n be_v we_o treat_v by_o our_o prelatic_a pamphleteer_n the_o authority_n of_o the_o second_o great_a moral_a precept_n anent_o the_o receive_n and_o maintain_v of_o all_o god_n ordinance_n the_o doct_n worsh._n disc_n and_o governm_fw-la of_o his_o house_n the_o weight_n and_o importance_n of_o the_o three_o anent_o the_o observation_n of_o most_o sacred_a solemn_a oath_n and_o vow_n to_o he_o for_o this_o great_a end_n weigh_v but_o light_a in_o these_o man_n balance_n but_o he_o who_o hand_n hold_v the_o plummet_n and_o line_n judge_v otherwise_o their_o balance_n be_v false_a not_o the_o balance_n of_o the_o sanctuary_n their_o new_a plagiary_n divinity_n depend_v in_o a_o great_a measure_n upon_o the_o camelion-rule_a of_o worldly_a wisdom_n and_o steer_v its_o course_n by_o the_o versatil_a rule_n of_o human_a law_n be_v calculat_v for_o any_o meridian_n but_o that_o of_o canaan_n &_o immanuels_n land_n where_o all_o must_v go_v to_o his_o law_n and_o testimony_n and_o be_v pronounce_v base_a metal_n which_o be_v reprobat_fw-la by_o that_o touchston_n where_o every_o pin_n of_o the_o tabernacle_n must_v have_v its_o sampler_n from_o the_o holy_a mount_n ere_o it_o get_v
prelacy_n this_o order_n be_v confound_v the_o chief_a officer_n of_o this_o church_n be_v the_o magistrate_n commissioner_n to_o church_n and_o state_n whereas_o church_n officer_n be_v give_v by_o christ_n as_o mediator_n to_o his_o church_n as_o a_o church_n 1_o cor._n 12_o ver._n 28._o 3._o the_o act_n of_o civil_a and_o ecclesiastic_a authority_n be_v thus_o confound_v spiritual_a church_n ruler_n act_n only_o in_o spiritual_a matter_n by_o god_n appointment_n and_o civil_a ruler_n there_o immediate_a proper_a act_n be_v only_o in_o matter_n civil_a but_o here_o church_n officer_n be_v parliament_n commissioner_n and_o civil_a ruler_n in_o the_o high_a commission_n do_v excommunicate_a again_o in_o the_o 2._o place_n this_o erastian_n prelacy_n confound_v these_o two_o power_n in_o their_o cause_n which_o be_v whole_o diverse_a 1._o the_o efficient_a cause_n be_v diverse_a god_n as_o creator_n be_v author_n of_o magistracy_n rom._n 13._o but_o christ_n as_o mediator_n appoint_v church_n government_n matt._n 28_o 18._o but_o here_o the_o magistrate_n qua_fw-la talis_fw-la be_v a_o suprem_a church_n ruler_n and_o thus_o be_v suppose_v to_o have_v his_o power_n from_o christ_n as_o mediator_n and_o head_n of_o his_o church_n which_o be_v one_fw-mi opinion_n full_o confute_v by_o those_o who_o havewritten_v against_o erastus_n particular_o mr_n gillespie_n in_o the_o aaron_n rod._n 2._o they_o differ_v in_o the_o material_a cause_n the_o matter_n on_o which_o the_o two_o power_n do_v act_n be_v diverse_a ecclesiastic_a power_n do_v act_n in_o the_o exercise_n of_o the_o key_n the_o administration_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n have_v this_o for_o its_o proper_a object_n and_o matter_n the_o civil_a power_n consist_v in_o the_o civil_a and_o secular_a sword_n the_o one_o reach_v the_o inward_a the_o othere_o the_o outward_a man_n but_o in_o this_o erastian_n prelacye_n the_o sword_n and_o key_n be_v make_v one_o promiscuous_o use_v and_o put_v into_o the_o same_o hand_n 3._o the_o two_o power_n differ_v in_o their_o formal_a cause_n the_o civil_a power_n be_v put_v forth_o in_o political_a punishment_n the_o ecclesiastic_a in_o spiritual_a censure_n but_o here_o the_o same_o power_n be_v the_o first_o radix_fw-la and_o fountain_n of_o spiritual_a censure_n and_o civil_a punishment_n and_o give_v they_o their_o formal_a essence_n and_o be_v as_o such_o final_o the_o proper_a immediate_a end_n of_o civil_a power_n be_v the_o temporal_a external_n political_a peace_n of_o the_o commonwealth_n rom._n 13._o 1_o 2._o 3._o but_o the_o proper_a end_n ofecclesiastick_a power_n be_v the_o church_n spirival_n good_a and_o edification_n as_o such_o matth._n 18._o 15._o 1_o cor._n 5._o 5._o 2._o cor._n 10._o 8._o and_o 13._o 10._o but_o here_o the_o magistrate_n quatalis_fw-la be_v the_o church_n head_n these_o end_n be_v confound_v these_o and_o several_a such_o like_a argument_n be_v make_v use_n of_o by_o our_o writer_n against_o erastus_n which_o do_v full_o evince_v the_o unlawfulness_n of_o this_o erastian_n prelacy_n whosoever_o shall_v peruse_v apollonius_n his_o jus_o majest_n circ_n sacr_n the_o jus_o div_o regim_n eccles_n the_o aaron_n rod_n wallaeus_fw-la against_o vtenbog_n and_o such_o like_a will_v find_v this_o abundant_o clear_a to_o sh●…t_v up_o all_o with_o one_o word_n more_o there_o be_v these_o 3._o horrid_a absurdity_n in_o relation_n to_o church_n government_n which_o the_o premise_a mould_n of_o this_o erastian_n prelacy_n will_v necessary_o infer_v 1._o that_o a_o man_n may_v be_v bear_v not_o only_o a_o church_n member_n but_o a_o chief_a church_n ruler_n nay_o that_o a_o heathen_a and_o a_o man_n that_o never_o profess_v the_o true_a religion_n but_o life_n and_o die_v one_fw-mi ingraind_a enemy_n to_o it_o and_o so_o have_v neither_o mater_fw-la nor_o form_n of_o church_n membership_n may_v be_v a_o chieff_n church_n officer_n for_o his_o majesty_n present_a authority_n herine_n acknowledge_v by_o our_o prelate_n and_o which_o be_v the_o fountain_n of_o their_o power_n be_v the_o proper_a crown_n dignity_n of_o all_o that_o ever_o shall_v possess_v and_o wear_v it_o and_o so_o here_o be_v a_o monstrous_a church_n officer_n who_o 1._o have_v no_o qualification_n of_o any_o church_n officer_n who_o ever_o christ_n appoint_v 2._o a_o church_n officer_n who_o be_v not_o set_v in_o the_o church_n which_o be_v the_o essential_a mark_n of_o all_o church_n officer_n 1._o cor._n 12_o 28._o for_o that_o suppose_v he_o must_v be_v a_o church_n member_n a_o 2d_o absurdity_n be_v this_o that_o child_n and_o woman_n who_o may_v have_v a_o lawful_a lineal_a right_n to_o the_o croun_n may_v be_v church_n officer_n yea_o the_o fountain_n of_o our_o prelate_n authority_n and_o of_o all_o their_o under●…ings_n and_o the_o chieff_a governoure_n of_o this_o church_n and_o thus_o they_o who_o be_v forbid_v so_o much_o as_o to_o speak_v in_o the_o church_n shall_v be_v chieff_n church_n ruler_n and_o likeways_o such_o as_o have_v not_o the_o use_n of_o reason_n 1._o tim._n 3_o 5._o 1._o cor._n 14._o 34_o 35._o a_o 3d._a absurdity_n be_v that_o the_o church_n government_n upon_o earth_n may_v be_v monarchical_a and_o that_o one_o man_n may_v be_v her_o supreme_a head_n legislator_n and_o architectonick_a monarch_n and_o ruler_n for_o aquatenus_fw-la ad_fw-la omne_fw-la valet_fw-la consequentia_fw-la upon_o the_o same_o ground_n that_o the_o suprem_fw-mi civil_a ruler_n be_v chieff_n head_n and_o ruler_n over_o the_o church_n in_o his_o dominion_n the_o church_n in_o all_o other_o place_n be_v a_o body_n of_o the_o same_o nature_n shall_v the_o christian_a church_n be_v contract_v within_o his_o dominion_n he_o be_v her_o supreme_a universal_a head_n and_o it_o be_v so_o if_o his_o civil_a dominion_n shall_v be_v extend_v over_o all_o the_o church_n by_o this_o same_o reason_n of_o his_o headship_n over_o one_o he_o may_v be_v head_n over_o all_o and_o exercise_v one_fw-mi arbitrary_a at_o least_o a_o legislative_a power_n over_o all_o her_o ordinance_n and_o officer_n and_o if_o this_o will_v not_o clear_o set_v the_o pope_n treeple_n croun_n upon_o his_o head_n and_o disowne_v all_o that_o ever_o the_o protestant_n church_n have_v write_v and_o act_v against_o his_o blasphemous_a supremacy_n let_v common_a discretion_n judge_n ambrose_n epist_n 33._o ad_fw-la valentinianum_fw-la imperatorem_fw-la say_v noli_fw-la gravare_fw-la imperator_fw-la ut_fw-la pute_fw-la in_o ea_fw-la quae_fw-la divina_fw-la sunt_fw-la aliquod_fw-la imperiale_a jus_o habere_fw-la opliticorum_fw-la tibi_fw-la munerum_fw-la jus_o concessum_fw-la est_fw-la non_fw-la sacrorum_fw-la grieve_v not_o o_o emperor_n so_o as_o to_o think_v that_o you_o have_v any_o imperial_a authority_n over_o these_o thing_n which_o be_v divine_a the_o right_a or_o authority_n of_o political_a office_n be_v commit_v unto_o thou_o but_o not_o of_o sacred_a chap._n vii_o the_o informer_n deceitful_a shift_v and_o obscure_v the_o true_a state_n of_o the_o question_n anent_o episcopacy_n and_o flinch_v from_o the_o point_n debatable_a discover_v several_a way_n he_o decline_v a_o direct_a plead_n for_o prelate_n civil_a office_n yet_o offer_v some_o argument_n defence_n thereof_o wherein_o his_o prevarication_n and_o contradiction_n to_o himself_o be_v make_v appear_v to_o come_v now_o to_o examine_v what_o this_o new_a dialogist_n have_v produce_v in_o defence_n of_o the_o present_a prelacy_n establish_v among_o we_o and_o to_o examine_v his_o answer_n to_o our_o plea_n against_o it_o we_o shall_v not_o stand_v upon_o the_o trifle_a debate_n about_o the_o personal_a good_a quality_n of_o some_o that_o have_v be_v prelate_n with_o which_o he_o preface_v this_o dialogue_n it_o be_v altogether_o extrinsic_a to_o the_o question_n anent_o the_o lawfulness_n of_o the_o office_n itself_o and_o will_v be_v no_o argument_n in_o our_o case_n against_o he_o as_o this_o man_n can_v but_o acknowledge_v else_o he_o must_v give_v up_o the_o cause_n upon_o his_o concession_n of_o the_o unquestionable_a eminent_a piety_n and_o integrity_n of_o many_o burn_a and_o shine_v light_n who_o have_v be_v the_o lord_n constant_a witness_n against_o prelacy_n that_o which_o be_v here_o main_o considerable_a be_v his_o prevarication_n in_o state_v the_o question_n anent_o prelacy_n viz._n whither_o the_o ancient_a bishope_n have_v a_o superiority_n over_o other_o minister_n wherein_o he_o utter_o ●…ches_v away_o from_o the_o point_n debeatable_a 1._o in_o make_v this_o the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n what_o bishopes_n be_v in_o the_o primitive_a church_n whereas_o the_o true_a state_n of_o our_o question_n be_v whither_o the_o prelate_n now_o existent_a in_o this_o church_n be_v a_o scripture_n bishop_n and_o consonant_n thereunto_o or_o one_fw-mi officer_n appoint_v by_o christ_n in_o his_o house_n yea_o or_o not_o and_o not_o whither_o there_o have_v be_v bishop_n or_o such_o as_o we_o now_o have_v in_o the_o ancient_a church_n the_o question_n be_v not_o of_o the_o mater_fw-la of_o
worship_n god_n for_o the_o seasi_fw-la be_v proclaim_v to_o jehova_n and_o to_o have_v a_o visible_a sign_n of_o his_o presence_n will_v the_o informer_n say_v that_o this_o have_v be_v a_o good_a argument_n to_o warrant_n the_o breach_n of_o the_o second_o command_n though_o this_o practice_n be_v but_o forty_o day_n young_a than_o the_o promulgation_n if_o self_n so_o the_o case_n be_v here_o though_o he_o can_v show_v we_o human_a clear_a testimony_n nay_o more_o even_a scripture_n testimony_n as_o to_o the_o factum_fw-la that_o the_o diocesian_n yea_o and_o erastian_n prelate_n have_v be_v existent_a and_o set_v up_o in_o some_o church_n in_o the_o apostle_n own_o time_n yet_o if_o we_o can_v from_o our_o lord_n and_o his_o apostle_n doctrine_n and_o practice_v prove_v this_o officer_n to_o be_v a_o plant_n not_o of_o a_o divine_a plantation_n and_o contrary_a to_o the_o divine_a institutiones_fw-la he_o must_v needs_o grant_v that_o though_o esteem_v golden_a it_o ought_v to_o be_v nehushtan_n reject_v and_o pluck_v up_o by_o the_o root_n the_o papist_n who_o hold_v the_o scripture_n to_o be_v but_o a_o half-rule_a make_v up_o by_o tradition_n yet_o will_v not_o dare_v to_o own_o profess_o at_o least_o any_o principle_n or_o practice_v condemn_v in_o the_o word_n suppose_v he_o can_v bring_v thousand_o of_o testimony_n from_o ancient_a writer_n touch_v his_o prelate_n he_o plead_v for_o they_o be_v but_o h●…man_a testimony_n and_o therefore_o can_v beget_v a_o divine_a faith_n which_o be_v found_v upon_o the_o word_n only_o surge_n veritas_fw-la ipsa_fw-la scripturas_fw-la tuas_fw-la inter_fw-la retare_fw-la quam_fw-la c●…nsuetudo_fw-la non_fw-la nooit_n nam_fw-la si_fw-la nosset_n non-esset_a say_v tertullian_n arise_v o_o truth_n itself_o and_o expone_fw-la they_o scripture_n which_o custom_n have_v not_o know_v for_o have_v it_o know_v they_o it_o have_v not_o be_v the_o informer_n testimony_n may_v induce_v to_o believe_v that_o there_o be_v bishop_n in_o the_o church_n but_o whither_o the_o office_n which_o these_o bishop_n be_v suppose_v to_o hold_v be_v of_o god_n yea_o or_o not_o this_o question_n must_v be_v bring_v to_o a_o high_a tribunal_n and_o god_n oracle_n must_v determine_v therein_o before_o the_o conscience_n can_v be_v satisfy_v as_o to_o the_o own_n of_o such_o a_o church_n officer_n and_o if_o god_n dissowne_v he_o i_o may_v be_v one_fw-mi athanasius_n contra_fw-la orbem_fw-la in_o withstand_v he_o it_o be_v still_o certain_a that_o these_o human_a witness_n be_v testesfacti_fw-la at_o most_o but_o not_o judices_fw-la very_fw-la &_o recti_fw-la attester_n of_o matter_n of_o fact_n but_o not_o judge_n of_o what_o be_v right_a and_o equal_a therein_o thus_o we_o have_v see_v that_o though_o all_o our_o informer_n plead_v from_o antiquity_n be_v grant_v his_o cause_n profliga_fw-la by_o scripture_n weapon_n lie_v grovel_v in_o the_o dust_n whereas_o he_o allege_n testimony_n as_o to_o the_o existence_n of_o prelate_n in_o the_o christian_a church_n near_o the_o apostle_n time_n or_o contemporary_a with_o they_o &_o that_o catalogue_n of_o a_o succession_n of_o prelate_n down_o from_o apostle_n and_o evangilist_n have_v be_v keep_v in_o church_n which_o he_o think_v speak_v convince_o for_o the_o episcopacy_n of_o timothy_n and_o titus_n etc._n etc._n ay_o ans._n although_o this_o be_v the_o very_a marrow_n and_o strength_n of_o all_o his_o argument_n from_o antiquity_n yet_o when_o try_v it_o will_v be_v find_v many_o way_n defective_a and_o unsound_a for_o clear_v whereof_o i_o shall_v offer_v some_o thing_n both_o to_o the_o major_n and_o assumption_n of_o this_o argument_n which_o will_v be_v find_v quite_o to_o break_v the_o force_n of_o all_o his_o pretence_n this_o way_n for_o thus_o the_o argument_n must_v run_v if_o diocesian_n bishop_n by_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n do_v exist_v in_o the_o primitive_a time_n and_o catalogue_n of_o they_o be_v draw_v by_o these_o ancient_n from_o apostle_n and_o euangilist_n than_o i_o must_v believe_v these_o bishop_n to_o be_v of_o divine_a institution_n but_o thus_o it_o be_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n ergo_fw-la i_o must_v believe_v diocesian_a bishope_n to_o be_v of_o divine_a institution_n now_o this_o be_v the_o argument_n in_o its_o genuine_a strength_n this_o pitiful_a pleader_n offer_v not_o a_o jott_n in_o proof_n of_o the_o major_a proposition_n who_o connexion_n he_o can_v but_o know_v the_o we_o all_o deny_v all_o that_o he_o offer_v be_v in_o proof_n of_o the_o assumption_n which_o be_v also_o denved_a &_o will_v be_v find_v very_o maim_v i._o to_o the_o major_n i_o say_v that_o it_o be_v of_o very_o dangerous_a consequence_n to_o make_v that_o which_o man_n call_v antiquity_n or_o ancient_a custom_n the_o infallible_a rule_n and_o commentary_n as_o to_o the_o nature_n and_o office_n of_o church_n officer_n mention_v in_o scripture_n because_o 1._o if_o man_n practice_n must_v be_v the_o key_n and_o comment_n in_o this_o case_n so_o as_o we_o must_v not_o contradict_v or_o counteract_v it_o then_o why_o may_v not_o also_o human_a practice_n and_o profession_n of_o succeed_v age_n determine_v as_o to_o every_o scripture_n truth_n and_o duty_n therein_o hold_v out_o 2._o this_o be_v to_o set_v up_o a_o high_a rule_n and_o tribunal_n than_o the_o scripture_n and_o to_o make_v our_o faith_n to_o stand_v in_o man_n wisdom_n not_o in_o god_n and_o to_o make_v the_o scripture_n of_o a_o private_a interpretation_n as_o if_o the_o prophecy_n have_v come_v by_o the_o will_n of_o man_n for_o if_o i_o must_v believe_v no_o otherways_o anent_o the_o scripture_n relate_v to_o the_o office_n of_o timothy_n and_o titus_n then_o according_a to_o the_o practice_n of_o suppose_a bishop_n their_o successores_fw-la and_o that_o they_o hold_v no_o other_o office_n but_o such_o as_o these_o suppose_a successores_fw-la be_v say_v to_o have_v have_v than_o the_o custom_n and_o practice_n of_o fallible_a man_n become_v to_o i_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o ratio_fw-la a_o priori_fw-la and_o the_o chief_a ground_n why_o i_o believe_v these_o scripture_n to_o have_v such_o a_o sense_n and_o no_o other_o and_o so_o i_o give_v man_n a_o dominion_n over_o my_o faith_n and_o my_o faith_n herein_o resolve_v ultimate_o into_o a_o human_a practice_n and_o testimony_n of_o fallible_a man_n which_o be_v a_o principle_n no_o protestant_n will_v allow_v next_o as_o to_o the_o asumption_n of_o the_o argument_n i_o will_v demand_v of_o this_o informer_n how_o i_o must_v be_v infallible_o assure_v anent_o this_o universal_a judgement_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n and_o of_o this_o true_a succession_n and_o how_o he_o will_v instruct_v the_o universal_a harmonious_a judgement_n of_o all_o the_o ancient_a father_n in_o this_o great_a point_n viz._n that_o such_o prelate_n as_o we_o have_v now_o be_v the_o first_o recipient_n of_o the_o ordinary_a power_n of_o government_n from_o the_o apostle_n and_o evangelist_n as_o their_o only_a immediate_a &_o ordinary_a successor_n the_o topic_a of_o our_o informer_n argument_n do_v suppose_v the_o certanty_n of_o this_o mater_fw-la of_o fact_n but_o to_o clear_v this_o will_v be_v find_v a_o hard_a piece_n of_o work_n because_o 1._o it_o be_v certan_a that_o many_o of_o the_o ancient_n write_v nothing_o many_o of_o their_o write_n be_v lose_v many_o write_n go_v under_o their_o name_n be_v counterfeit_v &_o most_o especial_o to_o this_o debate_n it_o be_v possible_o none_o of_o the_o hard_a task_n to_o discover_v some_o write_n here_o cite_v to_o be_v mere_a countersite_n how_o shall_v i_o know_v that_o the_o testimony_n of_o those_o who_o have_v write_v be_v not_o contradict_v in_o this_o point_n by_o such_o man_n of_o their_o time_n who_o either_o have_v not_o write_v or_o who_o write_n be_v perish_v 2._o there_o be_v many_o thing_n which_o the_o ancient_n speak_v of_o as_o derive_v from_o the_o apostle_n and_o have_v have_v one_fw-mi universal_a consent_n as_o far_o as_o the_o knowledge_n thereof_o have_v come_v to_o we_o which_o be_v acknowledge_v to_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o the_o apostolic_a doctrine_n as_o the_o error_n anent_o the_o vision_n of_o god_n that_o the_o saint_n sie_n not_o his_o face_n till_o the_o last_o day_n the_o error_n of_o free_a will_n which_o until_o augustin_n oppose_v it_o be_v universal_o receive_v the_o millenary_a error_n anent_o christ_n personal_a reign_n upon_o the_o earth_n a_o thousand_o year_n call_v by_o lactantius_n the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o holy_a prophet_n and_o christian_n wisdom_n which_o christian_n follow_v justin_n martyr_n hold_v they_o to_o be_v no_o christian_n that_o dissow_v this_o and_o this_o be_v own_v as_o one_fw-mi apostolic_a tradition_n so_o child_n partake_v of_o the_o lord_n supper_n and_o the_o necessity_n of_o baptism_n be_v by_o augustin_n
he_o since_o he_o dare_v not_o say_v that_o they_o be_v more_o corrupt_v than_o the_o church_n of_o the_o jew_n be_v at_o that_o time_n and_o so_o we_o may_v echo_v back_o his_o alas_o how_o will_v you_o justify_v this_o separation_n of_o you_o with_o a_o enquiry_n how_o he_o and_o his_o party_n will_v justify_v their_o separation_n from_o the_o true_a ministry_n of_o the_o church_n of_o scotland_n what_o if_o a_o party_n of_o corrupt_a priest_n and_o levite_n have_v rise_v up_o and_o pursue_v a_o course_n of_o defection_n tend_v to_o raze_v and_o ruin_v all_o god_n ordinance_n cast_v out_o all_o such_o priest_n and_o levite_n as_o will_v not_o concur_v with_o they_o and_o have_v appoint_v a_o acknowledgement_n of_o and_o concurrence_n with_o their_o wicked_a defection_n to_o be_v the_o only_a condition_n upon_o which_o they_o will_v admit_v either_o priest_n or_o people_n to_o share_v in_o the_o ordinance_n in_o the_o mean_a time_n a_o great_a body_n of_o priest_n and_o people_n adhere_v to_o god_n ordinance_n and_o contend_v against_o they_o have_v be_v keep_v their_o possession_n of_o the_o temple_n worship_n as_o long_o as_o they_o can_v i_o dare_v refer_v to_o our_o informer_n to_o give_v judgement_n in_o this_o case_n and_o show_v what_o simeon_n and_o anna_n joseph_n and_o mary_n will_v have_v do_v and_o to_o which_o of_o the_o party_n they_o will_v have_v adhere_v and_o let_v our_o cause_n be_v judge_v by_o this_o his_o doubter_n in_o the_o next_o place_n object_n that_o conformist_n lecture_n not_o &_o therefore_o may_v not_o be_v hear_v here_o he_o but_o trifle_n to_o insinuat_fw-la that_o this_o be_v sole_o look_v upon_o by_o we_o as_o a_o ground_n of_o not_o own_v they_o but_o in_o so_o far_o as_o in_o this_o our_o case_n it_o be_v a_o piece_n of_o their_o apostasy_n from_o our_o establish_a reform_a worrhip_n and_o a_o express_a badge_n of_o conformity_n to_o prelacy_n and_o in_o both_o these_o respect_n flat_a perjury_n and_o breach_n of_o covenant_n we_o look_v upon_o it_o as_o have_v its_o own_o influence_n with_o other_o ground_n to_o warrant_v a_o non-union_n to_o they_o while_o stand_v in_o a_o state_v opposition_n to_o faitfull_a minister_n mantain_v this_o with_o other_o piece_n of_o our_o reformation_n to_o this_o objection_n our_o informer_n answer_v 1._o that_o some_o conformist_n lectured_a and_o ye●…_n be_v separat_fw-la from_o and_o so_o may_v all_o of_o they_o be_v upon_o the_o forementioned_a ground_n thus_o disow_v and_o separate_a from_o although_o they_o have_v keep_v a_o form_n of_o this_o but_o i_o believe_v they_o be_v for_o sign_n and_o wonder_n among_o they_o who_o keep_v the_o lecture_n or_o own_o it_o at_o all_o next_o he_o tell_v we_o of_o the_o ancient_a read_n of_o the_o scripture_n in_o the_o jewish_a church_n and_o of_o moses_n and_o the_o prophet_n in_o the_o synagogue_n act_n 13._o 15_o 27._o and_o 15._o 21._o and_o likewise_o in_o the_o christian_a church_n but_o what_o then_o who_o deny_v this_o why_o they_o have_v he_o tell_v we_o the_o scripture_n public_o read_v in_o their_o church_n but_o i_o trow_v the_o read_n be_v the_o better_a of_o expound_v and_o he_o may_v have_v find_v that_o the_o levite_n neh._n 8._o 8._o read_v the_o law_n of_o god_n distinct_o and_o give_v the_o sense_n and_o cause_v the_o people_n understand_v the_o read_n and_o he_o dare_v not_o say_v that_o the_o ancient_a public_a read_n of_o scripture_n among_o the_o jew_n be_v by_o god_n appointment_n a_o dumb_a read_n without_o exposition_n why_o give_v god_n prophet_n and_o teacher_n unto_o his_o church_n if_o not_o for_o this_o end_n and_o faith_n come_v main_o by_o hear_v the_o word_n preach_v why_o then_o grow_v his_o reverend_a father_n and_o their_o conform_v son_n so_o angry_a with_o this_o church_n laudable_a practice_n of_o give_v the_o sense_n together_o with_o the_o read_n comprobat_fw-la by_o that_o ancient_a practice_n of_o the_o jewish_a church_n which_o he_o pretend_v since_o otherwise_o the_o text_n read_v one_fw-mi 100_o time_n be_v still_o like_o a_o kernel_n under_o a_o hard_a shell_n nay_o but_o he_o say_v if_o we_o separat_fw-la upon_o this_o ground_n we_o will_v have_v separate_a from_o the_o church_n in_o all_o age_n sure_o not_o from_o that_o church_n where_o the_o law_n be_v expon_v and_o its_o sense_n give_v as_o well_o as_o read_v beside_o that_o our_o non-union_n to_o our_o prelatic_a innovator_n or_o withdraw_v too_o if_o he_o please_v have_v this_o as_o a_o appendix_n with_o other_o ground_n that_o conformist_n in_o withhold_v our_o former_a lecture_n or_o expository_n read_v from_o the_o people_n and_o substitute_v a_o bare_a read_n in_o its_o place_n discover_v themselves_o to_o be_v teacher_n who_o be_v keep_v close_o and_o not_o open_v the_o seal_n of_o god_n book_n &_o be_v afraid_a that_o their_o hearer_n shall_v learn_v too_o fast_o in_o the_o 3d_o place_n he_o tell_v we_o a_o tedious_a story_n anent_o the_o disuse_n of_o our_o first_o authorize_v method_n of_o lecture_v which_o be_v at_o first_o only_o to_o read_v one_o chapter_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n and_o another_o of_o the_o new_a with_o brief_a explication_n of_o occur_v difficulty_n but_o that_o thereafter_o we_o hold_v with_o one_o chapter_n then_o with_o a_o part_n of_o one_o and_o raise_v observation_n making_z it_o a_o short_a sermon_n so_o that_o its_o all_o one_o to_o separat_fw-la for_o this_o as_o to_o separat_fw-la for_o short_a sermon_n which_o be_v caeteris_fw-la paribus_fw-la think_v better_a than_o a_o long_a then_o he_o tell_v we_o further_o to_o cloak_n this_o their_o laziness_n that_o variety_n of_o purpose_n be_v hardly_o retain_v and_o procure_v a_o weary_v and_o that_o one_o thing_n put_v out_o another_o etc._n etc._n but_o what_o fruitless_a talk_n be_v all_o this_o if_o our_o church_n appointment_n be_v of_o this_o nature_n at_o first_o to_o open_v up_o difficulty_n upon_o the_o read_n do_v she_o therefore_o intend_v to_o cut_v off_o the_o exercise_n of_o that_o gift_n anent_o practical_a observation_n which_o be_v find_v in_o experience_n so_o eminent_o edify_v as_o himself_o acknowledge_v in_o the_o next_o page_n and_o the_o method_n of_o preach_v abroad_o to_o which_o method_n we_o be_v behold_v for_o some_o excellent_a commentary_n upon_o the_o scripture_n which_o will_v probable_o have_v be_v by_o this_o time_n entire_a through_o the_o whole_a bible_n according_a to_o the_o design_n and_o mould_n project_v by_o the_o reverend_a brethren_n and_o minister_n of_o this_o church_n if_o our_o prelate_n lazy_a read_v tribe_n have_v not_o invade_v the_o pulpit_n of_o the_o lord_n faithful_a labourer_n again_o suppose_v there_o be_v as_o to_o this_o method_n some_o deviation_n from_o the_o first_o appointment_n yet_o since_o our_o church_n give_v a_o tacit_n approbation_n &_o universal_o use_v it_o his_o censure_n be_v too_o critical_a &_o saucy_a beside_o to_o plead_v from_o the_o variation_n in_o the_o practice_n to_o a_o total_a disuse_n be_v dull_a reason_n and_o whatever_o the_o lecture_n be_v at_o first_o this_o be_v certain_a that_o this_o universal_a practice_n and_o eminent_o edify_v piece_n of_o public_a duty_n own_v by_o our_o church_n be_v present_o disuse_v and_o discharge_v by_o prelate_n and_o its_o disuse_n become_v one_o of_o the_o badge_n of_o conformity_n and_o a_o part_n of_o their_o mark_n upon_o their_o creature_n and_o therefore_o eatenus_fw-la in_o all_o reason_n it_o ought_v to_o have_v its_o own_o weight_n with_o other_o ground_n as_o to_o disow_v they_o in_o their_o present_a state_n and_o circumstance_n the_o experience_n of_o all_o the_o true_a seeker_n of_o god_n can_v disprove_v sufficient_o what_o he_o add_v of_o a_o tedious_a nauseat_n as_o the_o issue_n of_o variety_n of_o purpose_n variety_n rather_o take_v off_o then_o beget_v tediousness_n whence_o the_o scripture_n be_v compose_v for_o this_o end_n of_o such_o a_o sweet_a variety_n of_o purpose_n and_o method_n his_o story_n of_o pembo_n defire_v to_o hear_v one_o word_n or_o sentence_n at_o once_o and_o no_o more_o till_o after_o a_o long_a time_n be_v calculat_v well_o to_o patronize_v a_o read_n or_o non-preaching_a ministry_n but_o the_o many_o scripture_n precept_n give_v to_o christian_n anent_o growth_n in_o knowledge_n and_o leave_v the_o first_o principle_n and_o not_o to_o be_v always_o child_n in_o understanding_n and_o likewise_o the_o scripture_n precept_n strait_o charge_v and_o enjoin_v minister_n to_o be_v instant_a in_o season_n and_o out_o of_o season_n preach_v exhort_v with_o all_o long_a suffering_n and_o doctrine_n sufficient_o discover_v the_o ●…diculous_a tendency_n of_o this_o story_n 4._o he_o tell_v we_o that_o suppose_v it_o be_v a_o fault_n every_o fault_n will_v not_o warrant_v separation_n we_o say_v not_o that_o every_o fault_n nay_o nor_o this_o simple_o consider_v
watchtower_n and_o post_n by_o a_o number_n of_o schismatic_a innovator_n who_o be_v dissolve_v her_o union_n and_o impeach_v her_o authority_n in_o this_o extraordinary_a case_n minister_n more_o enlarge_v and_o unfixt_v officiate_a be_v no_o breach_n of_o this_o rule_n because_o 1._o in_o this_o case_n the_o parochial_a constitution_n be_v impossible_a to_o be_v hold_v and_o god_n call_v not_o to_o impossibility_n and_o yet_o his_o call_n to_o preach_v the_o gospel_n stand_v and_o bind_v and_o by_o consequence_n to_o preach_v to_o other_o than_o the_o minister_n parish_n the_o common_a rule_n will_v plead_v for_o this_o viz._n necessitas_fw-la non_fw-la habet_fw-la legem_fw-la which_o this_o informer_n himself_o do_v hold_v will_n in_o some_o case_n warrant_v the_o lay_n by_o of_o that_o which_o otherwise_o be_v a_o duty_n he_o know_v what_o his_o inference_n be_v from_o david_n eat_v of_o the_o show_n bread_n to_o keep_v from_o starve_v and_o paul_n and_o those_o with_o he_o their_o cast_v their_o good_n into_o the_o sea_n to_o preserve_v from_o perish_v so_o that_o of_o necessity_n he_o must_v admit_v this_o rule_n and_o answer_v upon_o his_o own_o ground_n 2._o the_o reason_n which_o do_v warrant_v our_o first_o reformer_n officiate_a in_o this_o manner_n a_o practice_n which_o he_o dare_v not_o say_v that_o the_o author_n mention_v or_o any_o reform_a divine_n do_v condemn_v will_v warrant_v this_o our_o practice_n in_o this_o persecute_v state_n of_o our_o church_n it_o be_v clear_a that_o the_o case_n of_o reformation_n be_v parallel_n to_o that_o of_o a_o church_n defection_n and_o persecution_n in_o relation_n to_o this_o practice_n controvert_v as_o we_o clear_v from_o act_n 8._o 3._o the_o same_o great_a end_n of_o the_o church_n great_a good_a and_o edificaton_n which_o warrant_n fix_v of_o minister_n to_o their_o post_n in_o a_o church_n settle_v peaceful_a state_n will_v warrant_v their_o officiate_a more_o large_o and_o at_o other_o post_n when_o put_v from_o their_o own_o in_o her_o disturb_a persecute_v and_o destroy_v coondition_n by_o a_o prevalent_a schismatic_a backslide_a party_n the_o faithful_a watchman_n see_v the_o city_n betray_v by_o a_o party_n of_o profess_a defendant_n who_o be_v let_v in_o the_o enemy_n do_v their_o duty_n to_o the_o city_n best_o in_o resist_v they_o and_o run_v to_o help_v 4._o if_o faithful_a minister_n their_o necessary_a keep_v their_o post_n and_o the_o unlawfulness_n of_o exercise_v their_o ministry_n any_o where_o else_o be_v in_o this_o case_n assert_v than_o it_o will_v follow_v that_o a_o minister_n stand_v in_o that_o relation_n to_o a_o disturb_a and_o destroy_v church_n and_o all_o his_o gift_n and_o grace_n be_v useless_a in_o that_o case_n which_o notwithstanding_o be_v give_v for_o the_o good_a of_o the_o church_n but_o this_o be_v absurd_a shall_v not_o the_o weep_a church_n be_v take_v by_o the_o hand_n by_o her_o true_a son_n when_o she_o be_v wound_v and_o her_o vail_n take_v away_o by_o smite_v watchman_n 5._o by_o our_o principle_n the_o prelatic_a party_n be_v schismatic_n who_o have_v already_o break_v and_o overturn_v our_o church_n order_n and_o reformation_n now_o this_o informer_n will_v not_o deny_v that_o in_o such_o a_o case_n the_o church_n may_v send_v forth_o her_o minister_n to_o officiat_fw-la among_o such_o backslider_n and_o schismatic_n for_o their_o heal_n and_o recovery_n he_o know_v upon_o what_o ground_n mr_n lightoun_v not_o long_o since_o send_v out_o some_o of_o his_o brethren_n to_o preach_v in_o the_o west_n of_o scotland_n beside_o mr_n gillespie_n will_v tell_v he_o miscell_n page_n 23._o that_o a_o schismatic_a church_n have_v no_o just_a right_n to_o the_o liberty_n of_o a_o sound_a church_n as_o to_o the_o call_n or_o settle_v of_o minister_n so_o that_o in_o our_o principle_n no_o conformist_n be_v due_o or_o lawful_o call_v and_o settle_v 6._o our_o divine_n do_v grant_v that_o in_o extraordinary_a case_n even_o the_o want_n of_o ordination_n itself_o will_v not_o hinder_v to_o officiat_fw-la ministerial_o but_o that_o there_o may_v be_v a_o necessity_n which_o will_v sustain_v and_o comport_v with_o the_o want_n of_o it_o mr_n gillespy_n misc._n ch_n 4._o page_n 63._o tell_v we_o that_o in_o extraordinary_a case_n when_o ordination_n cannotbe_n have_v and_o when_o there_o be_v none_o who_o have_v commission_n &_o authority_n from_o god_n to_o ordain_v then_o and_o there_o a_o inward_a call_n from_o god_n stir_v up_o and_o ●…ing_v with_o the_o people_n good_a will_n and_o consent_n who_o god_n make_v willing_a can_v make_v a_o minister_n authorize_v to_o ministerial_a act_n that_o at_o the_o first_o plantation_n of_o church_n ordination_n may_v be_v want_v without_o make_v void_a the_o ministry_n because_o ordination_n can_v be_v have_v and_o if_o necessity_n will_v plead_v this_o in_o relation_n to_o ordination_n itself_o ergo_fw-la a_o fortiori_fw-la this_o necessity_n of_o our_o church_n destroy_v perturb_a condition_n may_v much_o more_o comport_v with_o ordain_v minister_n their_o more_o enlarge_a officiate_a for_o the_o help_n and_o recovery_n of_o a_o perish_a remnant_n by_o wolf_n in_o sheep_n clothing_n next_o this_o informer_n go_v on_o in_o his_o nauseat_a repetition_n charge_n intrusion_n upon_o our_o minister_n and_o inquire_v what_o warrant_v they_o have_v to_o preach_v and_o administer_v sacrament_n to_o those_o of_o another_o minister_n charge_n be_v neither_o call_v nor_o desire_v by_o these_o minister_n i_o answer_v they_o have_v god_n call_v to_o preach_v the_o gospel_n as_o minister_n of_o this_o church_n and_o as_o this_o call_n will_v warrant_v their_o officiate_a in_o other_o parish_n upon_o the_o lawful_a minister_n desire_v or_o invitation_n in_o a_o settle_a serene_a state_n of_o our_o church_n so_o in_o this_o her_o ruin_a and_o destroy_v condition_n the_o same_o call_v abundant_o warrant_n their_o help_a of_o these_o congregation_n and_o such_o poor_a macedonian_n who_o desire_v their_o help_n while_n under_o destroy_v schismatic_n who_o have_v no_o lawful_a call_n to_o be_v their_o miinister_n from_o god_n or_o this_o church_n but_o here_o our_o informer_n assault_v we_o with_o a_o dilemma_n either_o presbyterian_a minister_n call_v be_v ordinary_a or_o extraordinary_a ordinary_a they_o have_v none_o since_o they_o be_v not_o invite_v by_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o congregation_n to_o who_o they_o preach_v extraordinary_a they_o will_v not_o pretend_v unto_o i_o answer_v by_o a_o counterdilemma_n and_o retort_v his_o argument_n thus_o either_o the_o pretend_a minister_n of_o these_o congregation_n have_v a_o ordinary_a or_o extraordinary_a call_n to_o officiat_fw-la therein_o ordinary_a they_o have_v none_o according_a to_o the_o doctrine_n reformation_n and_o principle_n of_o this_o church_n be_v neither_o call_v by_o the_o people_n nor_o ordain_v by_o the_o presbytery_n of_o this_o church_n if_o we_o speak_v of_o the_o generality_n who_o be_v ordain_v and_o obtrude_v by_o the_o prelate_n upon_o these_o congregation_n where_o they_o officiat_fw-la and_o for_o those_o who_o be_v otherwise_o ordain_v and_o have_v conform_v we_o have_v tell_v he_o that_o by_o accept_v presentation_n from_o patron_n and_o collation_n from_o prelate_n they_o have_v renounce_v their_o presbyterian_a call_n and_o ordination_n and_o the_o call_v of_o this_o church_n consequent_o and_o thus_o do_v fall_v under_o the_o same_o consideration_n with_o the_o rest_n and_o for_o the_o exraordinary_a call_v neither_o the_o one_o nor_o the_o other_o will_v pretend_v unto_o it_o and_o when_o he_o answer_v this_o dilemma_n and_o by_o the_o scripture-rule_n and_o the_o principle_n and_o reformation_n of_o this_o church_n which_o the_o informer_n have_v not_o disprove_v yea_o admit_v we_o to_o suppose_v in_o this_o question_n justify_v the_o curate_n call_v to_o of_o ●…iciat_a in_o these_o congregation_n over_o which_o they_o assume_v a_o authority_n we_o shall_v produce_v we_o as_o to_o this_o practice_n which_o he_o condemn_v beside_o what_o answer_n will_v he_o give_v to_o such_o a_o dilemma_n in_o the_o mouth_n of_o schismatic_a congregation_n offer_v unto_o such_o minister_n as_o the_o church_n send_v from_o their_o own_o congregation_n to_o officiat_fw-la among_o they_o and_o whatever_o his_o answer_n be_v it_o will_v suit_n our_o case_n then_o he_o tell_v we_o of_o act_n of_o council_n condemn_v this_o encroachment_n as_o he_o call_v it_o but_o when_o he_o shall_v exhibit_v a_o case_n parallel_n to_o we_o which_o these_o act_n speak_v unto_o we_o shall_v consider_v it_o for_o what_o he_o add_v of_o the_o aberdeen_n doctor_n their_o charge_v the_o presbyterian_a minister_n who_o preach_v in_o their_o congregation_n with_o a_o practice_n repugnant_a to_o the_o scripture_n and_o canon_n of_o ancient_a council_n he_o shall_v have_v do_v well_o to_o have_v produce_v these_o scripture_n which_o the_o doctor_n allege_v and_o for_o ancient_a canon_n i_o think_v all_o
themselves_o into_o which_o we_o hop●…_n will_v be_v abundant_o clear_a to_o the_o understand_a peruser_n of_o what_o i_o have_v offer_v upon_o that_o head_n and_o the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n as_o it_o be_v exhibit_v how_o clear_a and_o full_a our_o confession_n and_o principle_n be_v in_o assert_v the_o due_a right_n of_o magistracy_n as_o well_o as_o of_o a_o true_a gospel_n ministry_n and_o how_o harmonious_o we_o join_v to_o the_o confession_n of_o all_o the_o reform_a church_n herein_o be_v sufficient_o notour_n to_o the_o unbiased_a and_o judicious_a and_o consequent_o that_o no_o precipitation_n or_o straying_n from_o the_o scripture_n path_n upon_o these_o head_n can_v be_v charge_v upon_o our_o cause_n and_o principle_n great_a and_o manifold_a have_v be_v the_o assault_n of_o satan_n upon_o this_o poor_a church_n and_o reproach_n of_o that_o grand_a accuser_n of_o the_o brethren_n upon_o our_o reformation_n and_o the_o faithful_a promoter_n thereof_o and_o the_o plower_n have_v long_o plough_v upon_o her_o back_n and_o enemy_n of_o all_o sort_n have_v many_o time_n afflict_v she_o from_o her_o youth_n o_o that_o our_o provoke_v jealous_a god_n will_v show_v we_o wherefore_o he_o contend_v and_o give_v both_o minister_n and_o people_n a_o heart-affecting_a sight_n and_o sense_n of_o the_o true_a ground_n of_o this_o controversy_n and_o show_v unto_o we_o our_o transgression_n wherein_o we_o have_v exceed_v and_o provoke_v he_o thus_o to_o lengthen_v out_o our_o desolation_n that_o he_o will_v excite_v minister_n to_o make_v full_a proof_n of_o their_o ministry_n and_o open_v up_o to_o they_o a_o effectual_a door_n and_o engage_v his_o people_n to_o a_o due_a and_o suitable_a subjection_n to_o their_o ministry_n that_o this_o word_n may_v run_v swift_o and_o this_o sword_n of_o the_o lord_n eut_fw-fr the_o cord_n of_o the_o wicked_a that_o we_o be_v all_o excite_a to_o encompase_v his_o throne_n with_o strong_a cry_v and_o tear_n in_o order_n to_o the_o return_v of_o the_o eclipse_v depart_v glory_n that_o this_o great_a shepherd_n israel_n will_v show_v himself_o the_o only_a wise_a of_o god_n and_o the_o only_a potentate_n in_o dissappoint_v and_o crush_a the_o crafty_a cruel_a stratagem_n and_o design_n of_o satan_n now_o act_v both_o the_o roar_a lion_n and_o subtle_a old_a serpent_n and_o of_o his_o grand_a lieutenant_n antichrist_n and_o his_o artisan_n that_o this_o our_o isle_n upon_o which_o the_o ●…ay-spring_n from_o on_o high_a do_v early_a shin●…_n and_o which_o do_v early_o wait_v for_o his_o law●…_n who_o be_v zions_n great_a lawgiver_n be_v rec●…_n vere_v from_o popish_a darkness_n and_o fro●…_n decay_v after_o the_o time_n of_o reformation_n may_v have_v a_o restore_n heal_a visit_n and_o be_v make_v a_o marry_a land_n may_v be_v upon_o this_o ground_n a_o land_n of_o desire_n that_o christ_n tabernacle_n now_o fall_v down_o may_v be_v rear_v up_o according_a to_o the_o pattern_n and_o plant_v among_o we_o until_o his_o glotious_a appearance_n to_o accomplish_v his_o church_n warfare_n and_o to_o make_v up_o his_o jewel_n this_o be_v the_o expectation_n of_o the_o prisoner_n of_o hope_n and_o in_o this_o expectation_n let_v we_o turn_v in_o to_o the_o strong_a hold_n even_o to_o his_o name_n which_o be_v a_o strong_a tower_n and_o go_v on_o in_o his_o strentgh_a keep_v his_o good_a way_n which_o have_v always_o be_v strength_n unto_o the_o upright_a let_v we_o contend_v for_o the_o faith_n once_o deliver_v to_o the_o saint_n and_o be_v steadfast_a unmoveable_a always_o abound_v in_o the_o work_n of_o the_o lord_n since_o he_o come_v quick_o who_o be_v our_o head_n and_o judge_n and_o his_o reward_n be_v with_o he_o so_o that_o neither_o our_o labour_n nor_o suffering_n shall_v be_v in_o vain_a in_o the_o lord_n the_o content_n first_o part_n chap._n 1._o page_n 2._o that_o the_o prelate_n now_o establish_v in_o this_o church_n be_v both_o diocesian_n and_o erastian_n clear_v by_o the_o present_a stand_a act_n hereanent_a page_n 2_o 3._o a_o twofold_a state_n of_o the_o question_n propon_v according_o argument_n from_o scripture_n against_o the_o diocesian_a prelate_n as_o a_o pretend_a church_n officer_n such_o as_o 1._o appropriate_v the_o term_n episcopus_fw-la common_a to_o all_o pastor_n to_o a_o prelate_n the_o absu_fw-la di●…y_n of_o this_o discover_v calvine_v remarkable_a testimony_n on_o titus_n 1_o 7._o page_n 4._o 2_o make_v it_o relate_v to_o pastor_n which_o have_v the_o flock_n for_o its_o immediate_a object_n clear_v from_o 1_o pet._n 5_o 3._o invade_v and_o null_v the_o authority_n allow_v to_o presbyter_n the_o matter_n of_o fact_n clear_v from_o the_o principle_n of_o prelatist_n and_o the_o absurdity_n hereof_o from_o several_a scripture_n ground_n page_n 6_o 7_o 8_o 9_o 10_o 11_o 12._o 4._o impeach_a christ_n kingly_a office_n as_o head_n of_o his_o church_n and_o the_o perfection_n of_o his_o word_n in_o obtrude_a a_o officer_n on_o his_o church_n of_o a_o different_a mould_n from_o those_o describe_v and_o allow_v by_o he_o clear_v from_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o prelate_n office_n and_o some_o scripture_n ground_n page_n 13_o 14_o 15._o chap._n 2._o page_n 16._o some_o more_o argument_n against_o the_o diocesian_a prelate_n that_o his_o office_n debase_v the_o act_n and_o exercise_n of_o the_o power_n of_o order_n clear_v from_o the_o matter_n of_o fact_n and_o several_a scripture_n ground_n page_n 16_o 17_o 18._o it_o maim_n and_o diversify_v the_o pastoral_a office_n by_o antiscripturall_a new_a invent_a degree_n thereof_o clear_v at_o large_a page_n 19_o 〈◊〉_d his_o office_n many_o way_n contrare_fw-la to_o thevery_a nature_n 〈◊〉_d the_o gospel_n church_n government_n clear_v also_o at_o larg●…_n from_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o prelate_n office_n and_o several_a scripture_n ground_n page_n 21_o 22_o 23_o 24._o cap._n 3_o page_z 25._o the_o diocesian_a bishop_n office_n debase_v extraordinary_a office_n in_o consound_v they_o with_o ordinary_a clear_v from_o the_o scripture-account_n of_o these_o extraordinary_a office_n and_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o prelate_n office_n according_a to_o the_o principle_n and_o plead_n of_o the_o episcopal_a party_n pag_n 25_o 26_o 27_o 28_o 29._o 30._o the_o derivation_n of_o the_o prelate_n office_n from_o the_o apostolical_a authority_n and_o the_o power_n of_o timothy_n and_o titus_n load_v with_o absurdity_n ibid._n chap._n 4._o page_n 30._o the_o diocesian_a prelate_n office_n take_v away_o the_o people_n right_a to_o call_v their_o pastor_n this_o right_n prove_v from_o scripture_n and_o divine_a reason_n page_n 31_o 32_o 33._o it_o exclude_v the_o office_n of_o the_o roll_a elder_n prove_v from_o the_o practice_n of_o prelatist_n as_o likeways_o the_o precede_a charge_n the_o divine_a right_n of_o this_o office_n prove_v from_o several_a scripture_n ground_n especial_o 1_v tim._n 5_o 17._o and_o some_o chief_a exception_n of_o the_o prelatic_a party_n examine_v page_n 34_o 35_o 36_o 37_o 38._o chap._n 5._o page_n 39_o that_o the_o present_a prelacy_n be_v gross_a erastianisme_n prove_v from_o the_o matter_n of_o fact_n some_o argument_n against_o it_o under_o that_o notion_n it_o exclude_v and_o deny_v all_o church_n government_n in_o the_o hand_n of_o church_n officer_n distinct_a from_o the_o civil_a contrary_a to_o the_o church_n privilege_n both_o under_o the_o old_a and_o new_a testament_n which_o be_v demonstrat_fw-la at_o large_a page_n 41_o 42_o 43_o 44_o be_v in_o many_o point_n one_fw-mi encroachment_n upon_o the_o liberty_n of_o the_o gospel_n church_n and_o upon_o christ_n mediatory_a authority_n over_o the_o same_o which_o be_v clear_v page_n 45_o 46._o chap._n 6_o page_n 47._o erastianisme_n deny_v the_o complete_a constitution_n of_o the_o apostolic_a church_n in_o point_n of_o government_n remove_v the_o scripture_n land_n mark_n set_v to_o distinguish_v the_o civil_a and_o ecclesiastic_a power_n which_o be_v clear_v in_o several_a point_n page_n 47_o 48_o 49_o 50._o it_o be_v liable_a to_o great_a absurdity_n ibid._n chap._n 7._o pag._n 51._o the_o informer_n shift_v and_o obscure_v the_o true_a state_n of_o the_o question_n anent_o episcopacy_n and_o flinch_v from_o the_o point_n debateable_a discover_v several_a way_n page_n 52_o 53_o he_o decline_v a_o direct_a plead_n for_o the_o prelate_n civil_a office_n yet_o offer_v some_o argument_n in_o defence_n thereof_o wherein_o his_o prevarication_n and_o contradiction_n to_o himself_o be_v make_v appear_v his_o pretend_a scripture_n argument_n from_o the_o instance_n of_o eli_n and_o samuel_n and_o the_o priest_n concurrence_n in_o that_o court_n 11_o numb_a to_o fortify_v the_o prelate_n civil_a state_n office_n ad_fw-la examine_v page_n 54_o 55_o 56_o 57_o 58_o 59_o he_o be_v contradict_v by_o interpreter_n in_o this_o point_n antiquity_n full_a and_o clear_a against_o he_o the_o ground_n of_o the_o assembly_n 1638_o sess._n 25._o against_o the_o
about_o his_o ministry_n and_o the_o duty_n entrust_v to_o he_o etc._n etc._n balsamon_n expoundes_o this_o part_n of_o the_o canon_n and_o sum_n it_o up_o thus_o decernit_fw-la itaque_fw-la praesens_fw-la canon_n ut_fw-la si_fw-la quis_fw-la episcopus_fw-la vel_fw-la presbyter_n ad_fw-la docendum_fw-la pertinentem_fw-la manuum_fw-la impositionem_fw-la acceperit_fw-la &_o suum_fw-la munus_fw-la non_fw-la implea_n segregetur_fw-la the_o present_a canon_n discern_v that_o if_o any_o bishop_n or_o presbyter_n have_v receive_v imposition_n of_o hand_n relate_v to_o teach_n and_o fulfille_v not_o his_o office_n that_o he_o be_v set_v aside_o etc._n etc._n where_o its_o evident_a that_o he_o make_v the_o bishop_n ordination_n or_o imposition_n of_o hand_n relative_a unto_o the_o great_a duty_n and_o office_n of_o preach_v the_o gospel_n aswell_o as_o that_o of_o the_o presbyter_n and_o according_o expounde_n the_o canon_n the_o thirty-nine_o canon_n entrust_v the_o bishop_n with_o the_o charge_n of_o the_o people_n soul_n in_o correspondence_n with_o the_o precede_a in_o the_o forecited_a cap_n xii_o photii_fw-la we_o be_v refer_v to_o the_o syn._n carthag_n can_v cxxiii_o syn._n vi_o can_n xix_o lxiiii_o see_v also_o syn._n sexta._fw-la in_o trullo_n can_v xix_o quod_fw-la opportet_fw-la eos_fw-la qui_fw-la prasunt_fw-la ecclesiis_fw-la in_fw-la omnibus_fw-la quidem_fw-la diebus_fw-la sed_fw-la praecipue_fw-la dominicis_fw-la docere_fw-la pietatis_fw-la &_o rectae_fw-la rationis_fw-la eloquia_fw-la ex_fw-la divina_fw-la scriptura_fw-la colligentes_fw-la intelligentias_fw-la &c_n &c_n that_o all_o such_o as_o be_v set_v over_o church_n on_o all_o day_n but_o especial_o on_o the_o lord_n day_n most_o teach_v the_o oracle_n of_o piety_n and_o pure_a religion_n draw_v instruction_n from_o the_o divine_a scripture_n &c_n &c_n balsamon_n begin_v his_o commentary_n upon_o the_o canon_n thus_o episcopi_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la doctores_fw-la constituuntur_fw-la &_o propterea_fw-la dicit_fw-la canon_n cis_fw-la omnino_fw-la necesse_fw-la esse_fw-la eum_fw-la cui_fw-la praesunt_fw-la populam_fw-la semper_fw-la docere_fw-la &_o multo_fw-la magis_fw-la in_o diebus_fw-la dominicis_fw-la &c_n &c_n that_o be_v the_o bishop_n be_v constitut_v teacher_n of_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o the_o canon_n say_v unto_o they_o that_o its_o absolute_o necessary_a always_o to_o teach_v that_o people_n over_o who_o they_o be_v set_v and_o much_o more_o on_o the_o lord_n day_n wherein_o all_o be_v almost_o present_a in_o church_n and_o artificer_n cease_v from_o their_o work_n etc._n etc._n so_o that_o our_o non-preaching_a or_o seldom_o preach_v prelate_n who_o by_o a_o new_a consecration_n forsooth_o superad_v unto_o their_o presbyterial_a ordination_n to_o preach_v the_o gospel_n get_v a_o bill_n of_o ease_n from_o this_o great_a duty_n to_o act_v state_n game_n except_o when_o their_o lordship_n please_v to_o step_v into_o the_o pulpit_n to_o supererogat_n stand_v arraighn_v stigmatise_v and_o depose_v by_o the_o ancient_a canon_n as_o unworthy_a of_o any_o office_n in_o the_o house_n of_o god_n vide_fw-la can_n apost_n conc_fw-fr general_n &_o partic_a sanct._n patr._n photii_fw-la nomocan_n cum_fw-la balsam_n comment_n pag._n mihi_fw-la 39_o 116_o 117_o 121_o 207._o unto_o this_o account_n and_o censure_n of_o antiquity_n and_o of_o the_o ancient_a canon_n pass_v upon_o our_o non-preaching_a prelate_n i_o will_v here_o subjoin_v a_o remarkable_a passage_n of_o a_o learled_a divine_n who_o praise_n be_v in_o all_o the_o church_n whittaker_n the_o eccles._n contr_n 2._o cap._n 3._o be_v about_o to_o prove_v that_o the_o church_n of_o room_n be_v no_o true_a church_n of_o christ._n present_v this_o for_o his_o first_o argument_n pontifex_fw-la romanus_n non_fw-la est_fw-la verus_fw-la episcopus_fw-la ergo_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la romana_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la vera_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la nam_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la non_fw-la potestesse_n sine_fw-la episcopo_fw-la the_o pope_n of_o rome_n be_v no_o true_a bishop_n therefore_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v no_o true_a church_n because_o the_o church_n can_v be_v without_o a_o bishop_n but_o least_o this_o last_o assertion_n cheer_v up_o our_o informer_n and_o his_o fellow_n he_o add_v disputo_fw-la ex_fw-la eorum_fw-la placitis_fw-la that_o he_o disput_v upon_o his_o popish_a adversary_n principle_n and_o thus_o class_v they_o among_o the_o popish_a party_n in_o this_o point_n but_o how_o prove_v he_o the_o pope_n to_o be_v no_o true_a bishop_n propter_fw-la praecipuum_fw-la munus_fw-la episcopi_fw-la say_v he_o quoth_v in_o illo_fw-la desideratur_fw-la because_o of_o the_o chief_a office_n of_o a_o bishop_n which_o be_v want_v in_o he_o and_o what_o be_v that_o olim_fw-la episcopi_fw-la romani_fw-la diligenter_fw-la docebant_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la &_o nulli_fw-la facti_fw-la sunt_fw-la episcopi_fw-la nisi_fw-la qui_fw-la in_o hoc_fw-la munere_fw-la fideles_fw-la erant_fw-la olim_fw-la hoc_fw-la ad_fw-la se_fw-la pertinere_fw-la &_o praecipuum_fw-la suum_fw-la munus_fw-la esse_fw-la putabant_fw-la ut_fw-la populum_fw-la sibi_fw-la commissum_fw-la docerent_fw-la atque_fw-la instituerent_fw-la adeo_fw-la ut_fw-la monstri_fw-la simile_n esset_fw-la per_fw-la annos_fw-la post_fw-la christum_fw-la plusquam_fw-la sexcento_n episcopum_fw-la aliquem_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la esse_fw-la qui_fw-la aut_fw-la nollet_fw-la aut_fw-la non_fw-la posset_n populum_fw-la docere_fw-la that_o be_v of_o old_a the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n diligent_o teach_v the_o church_n and_o none_o be_v make_v bishope_n who_o be_v not_o faithful_a in_o this_o office_n of_o old_a they_o look_v upon_o this_o as_o the_o chief_a duty_n incumbent_a upon_o they_o to_o teach_v and_o instruct_v the_o people_n commit_v to_o they_o so_o that_o fore_o more_o than_o six_o hundred_o year_n after_o christ_n it_o will_v have_v be_v look_v upon_o as_o a_o monster_n if_o any_o such_o bishop_n be_v in_o the_o church_n who_o either_o be_v not_o willing_a or_o able_a to_o teach_v the_o people_n he_o add_v that_o all_o the_o apostolic_a bishope_n be_v such_o and_o that_o the_o apostle_n require_v it_o in_o a_o bishop_n that_o he_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d apt_a to_o teach_v 1_o tim._n 3_o 2._o hoc_fw-la est_fw-la say_v he_o non_fw-la ejusmodi_fw-la qui_fw-la curet_fw-la ●…antum_fw-la &_o det_fw-la operam_fw-la ut_fw-la alii_fw-la doceant_fw-la &_o hanc_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la docendi_fw-la aliis_fw-la tribuat_fw-la sed_fw-la qui_fw-la ipse_fw-la sufficiat_fw-la alios_fw-la docere_fw-la not_o such_o a_o one_o who_o be_v diligent_a only_a to_o provide_v other_o to_o teach_v and_o give_v this_o authority_n to_o other_o but_o who_o be_v himself_o sufficient_a to_o teach_v other_o this_o he_o prove_v because_o the_o apostle_n be_v in_o that_o place_n show_v how_o the_o bishop_n most_o be_v endue_v and_o gift_v before_o he_o be_v choose_v and_o that_o therefore_o by_o be_v apt_a to_o teach_v we_o most_o understand_v a_o personal_a care_n and_o ability_n and_o not_o a_o depute_a care_n quis_fw-la enim_fw-la hoc_fw-la praestare_fw-la non_fw-la posset_n say_v he_o who_o be_v he_o who_o may_v not_o perform_v this_o this_o he_o further_o clear_v from_o 2._o tim_fw-la 2._o 2._o where_o the_o apostle_n enjoin_v timothy_n to_o commit_v what_o he_o have_v hear_v of_o he_o to_o faithful_a man_n qui_fw-la essent_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d themselves_o able_a to_o teach_v other_o reprehend_v turrian_n and_o with_o he_o our_o episcopal_a man_n in_o interpret_n that_o first_o passage_n of_o a_o depute_a care_n as_o to_o teach_n and_o show_v that_o the_o old_a interpreter_n translate_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o doctor_n or_o teacher_n and_o a_o doctor_n say_v he_o be_v such_o a_o one_o as_o can_v teach_v himself_o thereafter_o he_o cite_v oecumenius_n and_o chrysostom_n thus_o expound_v the_o premise_a scripture_n and_o even_o soom_n of_o the_o popish_a scoolman_n as_o aquinas_n upon_o this_o text_n who_o call_v this_o the_o proper_a work_n and_o duty_n of_o a_o prelate_n and_o show_v we_o that_o aquinas_n pertinent_o apply_v to_o this_o purpose_n that_o passage_n jer._n 3._o 15._o i_o will_v give_v pastor_n according_a to_o my_o own_o heart_n who_o shall_v feed_v you_o with_o knowledge_n and_o understanding_n and_o that_o cajetan_a and_o catharinus_n do_v thus_o expound_v this_o text_n in_o all_o which_o we_o see_v with_o how_o full_a a_o consent_n of_o ancient_a and_o modern_a church_n and_o divine_v our_o non-preaching_a or_o seldom_o preach_v prelate_n be_v condemn_v and_o how_o full_o our_o scripture-argument_n against_o they_o upon_o this_o head_n be_v fortify_v and_o confirm_v 12._o as_o in_o other_o point_n of_o difference_n so_o the_o ancient_a bishope_n be_v as_o far_o from_o our_o prelate_n fastuus_fw-la pomp_n and_o sumptuus_fw-la grandeur_fw-fr which_o they_o assume_v ammianus_n marcellinus_n lib._n 27._o de_fw-la habitu_fw-la aquavitae_fw-la beatorum_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la tell_v we_o of_o their_o tenuitas_fw-la edendi_fw-la potandique_fw-la parcissime_fw-la indumentorum_fw-la vilitas_fw-la etc._n etc._n their_o spare_a eat_n and_o drink_v their_o meanness_n of_o apparel_n their_o lovely_a countenance_n as_o that_o which_o commend_v they_o to_o god_n and_o his_o true_a worshipper_n paulus_n samosatenus_fw-la his_fw-la fastuus_fw-la pomp_n
argument_n as_o signify_v any_o thing_n against_o we_o since_o the_o retortion_n thereof_o be_v so_o manifest_a and_o therefore_o nothing_o he_o have_v say_v will_v impeach_v calvine_n and_o beza_n impugn_v of_o episcopacy_n who_o impugnation_n of_o it_o will_v stand_v to_o all_o generation_n moreover_o in_o this_o citation_n of_o that_o epist_n to_o bishop_n grindal_n the_o informer_n have_v sue_v off_o the_o half_a of_o the_o sentence_n viz_o quod_fw-la tu_fw-la igitur_fw-la coram_fw-la istam_fw-la quorundam_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d tamdiu_fw-la pertulisti_fw-la reverend_a vir_fw-la ineo_fw-la sane_fw-la insigne_fw-la patientiae_fw-la ac_fw-la lenitatis_fw-la christianae_n specimen_fw-la dedisti_fw-la quo_fw-la majori_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o near_o the_o close_a of_o the_o same_o letter_n beza_n faithful_o advise_v as_o the_o fit_a remedy_n for_o remove_v offence_n ut_fw-la in_o legitimo_fw-la caetu_fw-la ex_fw-la uno_fw-la dei_fw-la verbo_fw-la abolitis_fw-la semel_fw-la papisticae_fw-la tyrannidis_fw-la vestigiis_fw-la ea_fw-la constituatur_fw-la administrandae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la ratio_fw-la non_fw-la quae_fw-la huic_fw-la vel_fw-la illi_fw-la adlubescat_fw-la non_fw-la quae_fw-la veteri_fw-la aut_fw-la recenti_fw-la consuetudine_fw-la sed_fw-la quae_fw-la firmo_fw-la verbi_fw-la dei_fw-la fundamento_fw-la superstructae_fw-la piorum_fw-la conscientiis_fw-la fatisfaciat_fw-la &_o in_o eternum_fw-la perseveret_fw-la that_o be_v that_o in_o a_o lawful_a a_o ssembly_n from_o the_o word_n of_o god_n only_o all_o the_o footstep_n of_o popish_a tyranny_n be_v once_o abolish_v that_o method_n of_o church_n government_n be_v establish_v not_o which_o shall_v please_v this_o or_o that_o person_n not_o which_o be_v found_v upon_o new_a or_o old_a custom_n or_o the_o wisdom_n of_o the_o flesh_n but_o which_o be_v build_v upon_o the_o sure_a foundation_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n may_v satisfy_v the_o conscience_n of_o the_o godly_a and_o endure_v for_o ever_o which_o rule_n and_o mould_n of_o bishop_n will_v no_o doubt_v cashier_n and_o raze_v to_o the_o foundation_n the_o diocesian_n erastian_n prelate_n who_o he_o plead_v for_o yea_o all_o the_o prelate_n in_o britain_n for_o what_o he_o add_v p._n 87._o it_o may_v be_v easy_o and_o without_o prejudice_n to_o our_o cause_n grant_v that_o god_n by_o his_o providence_n have_v make_v he_o a_o judge_n the_o informer_n will_v not_o own_o such_o one_fw-mi atheistical_a principle_n as_o to_o deny_v that_o the_o bishop_n civil_a government_n in_o england_n or_o pretend_v ecclesiastic_a be_v not_o the_o object_n of_o divine_a providence_n or_o be_v so_o brutish_a as_o to_o conclude_v god_n approbation_n of_o usurp_a tyrant_n from_o his_o permissive_a providence_n in_o reference_n to_o their_o tyranny_n or_o usurpation_n else_o he_o will_v for_o ever_o destroy_v his_o loyalty_n and_o fealty_n either_o to_o the_o king_n or_o his_o lordbishop_n that_o passage_n of_o calvin_n letter_n to_o cardinal_n sadolet_n after_o citedby_v he_o p._n 88_o though_o admit_v be_v a_o poor_a proof_n that_o he_o hold_v church_n government_n to_o be_v alterable_a certain_o calvin_n hold_v the_o scripture_n parity_n to_o be_v the_o most_o ancient_a government_n vetustissimae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la or_o of_o the_o most_o ancient_a church_n for_o such_o no_o doubt_n he_o hold_v the_o apostolic_a church_n to_o be_v beside_o we_o must_v tell_v he_o that_o this_o passage_n upon_o search_n be_v not_o find_v and_o as_o it_o be_v here_o express_v be_v very_o insignificant_a since_o by_o vetus_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la he_o may_v understand_v the_o church_n after_o the_o apostle_n time_n which_o early_o begin_v to_o corrupt_v the_o government_n as_o for_o salmasius_n his_o retracting_a his_o opinion_n as_o to_o church_n government_n it_o will_v no_o more_o impeach_v the_o truth_n itself_o which_o he_o assert_n than_o any_o other_o man_n defection_n will_v weaken_v the_o sound_a doctrine_n which_o he_o once_o hold_v will_v the_o informer_n take_v this_o argument_n from_o the_o papist_n if_o they_o shall_v plead_v from_o the_o retractiones_fw-la of_o protestant_n and_o from_o their_o writing_n for_o popery_n that_o the_o protestant_n doctrine_n be_v not_o sound_a will_v he_o not_o say_v that_o their_o first_o practice_n or_o write_n for_o truth_n will_v stand_v good_a and_o witness_n against_o they_o in_o their_o defection_n though_o it_o may_v be_v a_o question_n whither_o that_o retraction_n be_v real_a or_o not_o which_o durel_n mention_n and_o the_o informer_n out_o of_o he_o p._n 89._o especial_o this_o be_v another_o of_o our_o informer_n mute_a citation_n which_o he_o keep_v as_o he_o do_v the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n in_o these_o dialogue_n under_o the_o cloud_n point_v we_o to_o no_o page_n in_o that_o answer_n of_o salmasius_n to_o milton_n we_o will_v not_o here_o stand_v to_o show_v how_o that_o salmasius_n eye_n be_v blind_v with_o court-gift_n and_o pension_n have_v receive_v no_o small_a sum_n from_o king_n charles_n the_o second_o for_o his_o encouragement_n to_o that_o work_n and_o several_a learned_a divine_n who_o best_o know_v he_o think_v his_o literature_n more_o considerable_a than_o his_o divinity_n be_v solid_a as_o for_o that_o place_n of_o salmasius_n in_o his_o walo_n mess._n c._n 4._o p._n 253._o cite_v page_n 90._o the_o entire_a sentence_n be_v epistolae_fw-la illae_fw-la viz_o quae_fw-la ignatii_n dicuntur_fw-la natae_fw-la &_o suppositae_fw-la videntur_fw-la circa_fw-la initium_fw-la aut_fw-la medium_n secundi_fw-la saeculi_fw-la quo_fw-la tempore_fw-la primus_fw-la singularis_fw-la episcopatus_fw-la supra_fw-la presbyteratum_fw-la introductus_fw-la fuit_fw-la whatever_o time_n this_o be_v it_o appear_v by_o what_o follow_v that_o place_n in_o salmasius_n that_o about_o this_o time_n church_n power_n begin_v exceed_o to_o be_v corrupt_v and_o bishop_n exalt_v almost_o to_o one_fw-mi equality_n with_o christ_n and_o man_n begin_v to_o plead_v a_o jus_o divinum_fw-la for_o they_o for_o ignatius_n in_o epistola_fw-la ad_fw-la trallenses_n assert_n episcopum_fw-la venerandum_fw-la esse_fw-la sicut_fw-la christum_fw-la quemadmodum_fw-la apostoli_fw-la praeceperunt_fw-la that_o the_o bishop_n must_v be_v have_v in_o veneration_n as_o christ_n as_o the_o apostle_n have_v command_v and_o he_o cite_v the_o apostle_n word_n but_o such_o as_o do_v no_o where_o occur_v in_o our_o bibles_n and_o certanly_a if_o there_o be_v no_o more_o truth_n in_o that_o relation_n anent_o his_o retraction_n mention_v by_o that_o author_n than_o their_o be_v solidity_n in_o that_o ground_n of_o it_o which_o he_o allege_v it_o be_v not_o worth_a the_o noticing_z for_o the_o confusion_n in_o england_n can_v with_o any_o show_n of_o reason_n be_v charge_v upon_o presbyterial_a government_n which_o be_v never_o yet_o settle_v there_o and_o this_o informer_n dare_v not_o deny_v the_o bless_a effect_n of_o truth_n and_o unity_n &_o godliness_n which_o it_o have_v have_v in_o this_o land_n as_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o church_n abroad_o and_o particular_o in_o that_o passage_n of_o the_o syntagma_n confessionum_fw-la which_o he_o cite_v in_o the_o last_o dialogue_n if_o blondel_n in_o callng_v episcopacy_n most_o ancient_a do_v except_o the_o more_o ancient_a apostolic_a time_n which_o he_o plead_v as_o exemplify_a presbyterian_a parity_n he_o give_v it_o but_o the_o spurious_a afterbirth_n of_o humane_a antiquity_n the_o same_o we_o say_v as_o to_o his_o passage_n cite_v out_o of_o moulin_n p._n 90._o and_o if_o something_o of_o the_o humane_a proestos_fw-la be_v grant_v to_o have_v creep_v in_o ere_o john_n go_v oft_o the_o stage_n will_v that_o commend_v it_o any_o more_o than_o that_o mystery_n of_o iniquity_n and_o love_n of_o preeminence_n which_o the_o scripture_n assure_v we_o be_v in_o paul_n time_n and_o he_o sure_o by_o no_o mean_n beside_o we_o must_v here_o again_o tell_v our_o informer_n that_o this_o citation_n out_o of_o moulen_n be_v among_o the_o rest_n of_o his_o mute_n since_o he_o have_v neither_o note_a book_n nor_o page_n but_o now_o from_o our_o opinion_n of_o the_o unalterablenes_n of_o presbyterian_a government_n and_o our_o acknowledgement_n of_o the_o bring_n in_o of_o a_o proestos_fw-la so_o early_o the_o informer_n will_v involve_v we_o he_o say_v in_o one_o of_o two_o great_a absurdity_n partur_fw-la montes_fw-la what_o be_v these_o the_o 1._o be_v that_o that_o generation_n who_o live_v short_o after_o john_n be_v altogether_o ignorant_a of_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n mind_n anent_o presbyterian_a parity_n else_o they_o will_v not_o have_v adventure_v to_o change_v the_o government_n but_o this_o absurdity_n be_v easy_o discuss_v for_o it_o light_v equal_o upon_o the_o instance_n already_o give_v of_o israells_n defection_n in_o worship_v the_o golden_a calf_n forty_o day_n soon_o than_o 40._o year_n or_o more_o after_o the_o holy_a pattern_n of_o doctrine_n show_v they_o upon_o the_o mount_n how_o often_o do_v we_o find_v sudden_a change_n in_o scripture_n of_o the_o divine_a institution_n how_o quick_o after_o joshua_n and_o the_o elder_n do_v all_o israel_n depart_v from_o god_n way_n and_o ordinance_n how_o quick_o
opposition_n to_o prelacy_n so_o the_o confession_n of_o the_o french_a church_n credimus_fw-la veram_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la &c_n &c_n we_o believe_v that_o the_o true_a church_n ought_v to_o be_v govern_v by_o that_o policy_n which_o christ_n have_v ordain_v viz_o that_o there_o be_v pastor_n presbyter_n or_o elder_n and_o deacon_n and_o again_o we_o believe_v that_o all_o true_a pastor_n wherever_o they_o be_v be_v endue_v with_o equal_a and_o the_o same_o power_n under_o one_o head_n and_o bishop_n christ_n jesus_n which_o strike_v our_o diocesian_n and_o erastian_n frame_v of_o government_n stark_o dead_a which_o be_v second_v thus_o by_o the_o belgic_a confess_v art_n 30._o all_o christ_n minister_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n have_v the_o same_o and_o equal_a power_n and_o authority_n as_o be_v all_o minister_n of_o that_o only_a universal_a head_n and_o bishop_n christ._n to_o thesewe_v may_v add_v many_o other_o testimony_n of_o reform_a divine_n as_o calvin_n piscator_fw-la marl●…rat_fw-la on_o 1._o tim_n 4._o 14._o tit._n 1._o 3_o zanch._n de_fw-fr statu_fw-la p●…ccat_fw-la and_o legal_a in_o 4tum_fw-la praecep_v chemnitius_n loc._n com._n part._n 3._o de_fw-fr eccles._n cap._n 4._o exam._n council_n trid._n part_n 2._o de_fw-fr sacram._n ordinis_fw-la pag._n 224_o 225._o prove_v also_o that_o election_n and_o vocation_n of_o minister_n belong_v to_o the_o whole_a church_n antonius_n sadael_n resp._n ad_fw-la repetita_fw-la turriani_n sophismata_fw-la par_fw-fr 2._o lo●…_n 12._o beza_n the_o divers_a ministrorum_fw-la gradibus_fw-la junius_n controu._n 5._o l._n c_o 3_o n_o 3._o chamierus_n panstratia_n cathol_a tom_n 2._o de_fw-la occum_n pontis_fw-la cap._n 6._o a_o 3d._n great_a point_n of_o presbyterian_a government_n in_o opposition_n to_o prelacy_n be_v the_o people_n interest_n in_o the_o election_n and_o call_v of_o minister_n and_o for_o this_o there_o be_v as_o full_a a_o consent_n of_o divine_n and_o church_n both_o ancient_a and_o modern_a several_a of_o the_o forementioned_a confession_n clear_v this_o the_o people_n election_n and_o call_v be_v take_v in_o together_o with_o presbyter_n ordination_n cyprian_n epist._n 68_o be_v full_a to_o this_o purpose_n plebs_fw-la ipsa_fw-la maxim_n habet_fw-la potestatem_fw-la vel_fw-la eligendi_fw-la dignos_fw-la sacerdotes_fw-la vel_fw-la indignos_fw-la recusandi_fw-la quod_fw-la &_o ipsum_fw-la videmus_fw-la de_fw-la divina_fw-la authoritate_fw-la descendere_fw-la ut_fw-la sacerdos_n sub_fw-la omnium_fw-la oculis_fw-la plebe_fw-la present_n deligatur_fw-la &_o dignus_fw-la atque_fw-la idoneus_fw-la public●…_n judicio_fw-la ac_fw-la testimonio_fw-la comprobetur_fw-la that_o be_v the_o people_n themselves_o have_v chief_o the_o power_n either_o of_o elect_v worthy_a priest_n or_o refuse_v the_o unworthy_a which_o mater_fw-la we_o see_v even_o of_o itself_o to_o descend_v from_o the_o divine_a authority_n that_o the_o priest_n be_v set_v apart_o under_o the_o eye_n of_o all_o in_o the_o people_n presence_n and_o as_o worthy_a and_o qualify_v be_v approve_v by_o a_o public_a judgement_n and_o testimony_n so_o lib_n 1._o epist_n 4._o be_v full_a for_o the_o church_n liberty_n and_o right_n in_o election_n the_o 4t_n council_n of_o carthage_n can._n 22._o require_v to_o the_o admission_n of_o every_o clergy_n man_n civium_fw-la assensum_fw-la &_o testimonium_fw-la &_o convenientiam_fw-la the_o consent_n of_o the_o citzen_n their_o testimony_n and_o agreement_n socrat_n l._n 4._o c._n 25._o say_v that_o ambrose_n be_v choose_v bishop_n of_o milan_n by_o the_o uniform_a voice_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o pretend_a apostolic_a but_o true_o old_a constitution_n of_o clement_n lib._n 8._o cap._n 4._o the_o bishop_n who_o must_v be_v ordain_v be_v appoint_v in_o all_o thing_n to_o be_v unblameable_a choose_v by_o all_o the_o people_n unto_o who_o let_v the_o people_n be_v assemble_v on_o the_o lord_n day_n n._n b._n with_o the_o presbytery_n and_o the_o bishop_n there_o present_a give_v their_o consent_n and_o a_o bishop_n ask_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o presbytery_n &_o the_o people●…_n if_o they_o desire_v such_o a_o man_n to_o be_v set_v over_o they_o the_o helvetick_a confession_n tell_v we_o that_o the_o right_a choose_n of_o minister_n be_v by_o consent_n of_o the_o church_n so_o the_o belgic_a confession_n tell_v we_o that_o minister_n elder_n and_o deacon_n be_v to_o be_v advance_v to_o their_o office_n by_o the_o lawful_a election_n of_o the_o church_n greg._n nazian_n orat_fw-la 31._o commend_v athanasius_n his_o call_n as_o be_v after_o the_o apostolical_a example_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o suffrage_n of_o all_o the_o people_n blondel_n clear_v this_o from_o a_o large_a consent_n of_o antiquity_n page_n 379._o to_o 473._o and_o this_o be_v clear_v also_o by_o a_o large_a consent_n of_o protestant_n divine_v luther_n de_fw-la potest_fw-la papae_fw-la calvin_n on_o act._n 6_o 3._o beza_n confess_v cap._n 5._o art_n 35._o musculus_fw-la in_fw-la loc._n come_v zanch._n on_o 4t_n come_v junius_n animadvers_fw-la on_o bellarm_n controu._n 5._o l._n c._n 7._o cartwright_n on_o act._n 14._o v._n 23._o wallaeus_n bullinger_n wittaker_n see_v mr_n gilesp_n misc._n quest_n pag_n 18_o 19_o our_o first_o book_n of_o discipline_n appoint_v to_o the_o people_n their_o vote_n and_o suffrage_n in_o election_n of_o minister_n in_o the_o 4t_n head_n and_o the_o second_o book_n cap_n 3_o discharge_v any_o to_o intrude_v contrary_a to_o the_o will_n of_o the_o congregation_n or_o without_o the_o voice_n of_o the_o eldership_n a_o 4t_n essential_a point_n of_o presbyterian_a government_n in_o opposition_n to_o prelacy_n be_v in_o relation_n to_o the_o office_n of_o the_o rule_a elder_n as_o appoint_v by_o christ._n this_o we_o clear_v from_o scripture_n and_o there_o be_v as_o clear_v a_o consent_n of_o antiquity_n for_o it_o and_o of_o modern_a reform_a church_n and_o divine_n exhibit_v by_o our_o writer_n for_o this_o ignatius_n epist_n ad_fw-la trallianos_fw-la ad_fw-la initium_fw-la pag._n 66._o edit_n oxon_n an._n 1644._o be_v cite_v likewise_o baronius_n in_o his_o annal_n anno_fw-la 103._o in_o the_o gesta_fw-la purgationis_fw-la caeciliani_n &_o felicis_n tertul._n apolog._n advers._fw-la gentes_fw-la cap._n 39_o origen_n ontra_fw-la celsum_fw-la lib._n 3._o cyprian_n epist._n 36._o optatus_n lib._n 1._o pag._n 41._o edit_n paris_n an._n 1631._o ambrose_n comment_n on_o 1_o tim._n 5_o 1._o and_o for_o modern_a writer_n whittaker_n contra_fw-la duraeum_n lib_n 9_o sect._n 47._o thorndicks_n discourse_n of_o religious_a assembly_n cap._n 4._o pag._n 117._o rivet_n cathol_a orthodox_n tract_n 2._o quest_n 22_o sect._n 4_o final_o presbyterian_a government_n as_o it_o stand_v in_o opposition_n to_o the_o present_a prelacy_n in_o its_o erastian_n mould_n and_o maintain_v a_o spiritual_a authority_n in_o the_o hand_n of_o church_n officer_n distinct_a from_o and_o independent_a upon_o the_o civil_a power_n of_o the_o world_n have_v as_o full_a a_o consent_n of_o the_o learned_a as_o erastianism_n be_v first_o hatch_v by_o thomas_n erastus_n physician_n in_o heidelberg_n about_o the_o year_n 1568._o and_o much_o catch_v up_o and_o plead_v for_o by_o arminian_n since_o so_o it_o have_v be_v impugn_a by_o a_o full_a consent_n of_o reform_a divine_n who_o have_v full_o prove_v it_o to_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o rule_n of_o church_n government_n set_v down_o in_o the_o scripture_n both_o in_o the_o old_a and_o new_a testament_n and_o utter_o eversive_a of_o the_o gospel_n ministry_n and_o church_n the_o eminent_a divine_n who_o have_v write_v against_o it_o be_v beza_n who_o encounter_v with_o erastus_n himself_o upon_o this_o point_n zachriasursin_n wallaeus_n helmichius_fw-la triglandus_fw-la dr_n revius_n dr_n voetius_fw-la appollonius_n and_o many_o other_o especial_o the_o famous_a and_o learned_a mr_n gillespy_n in_o that_o elaborat_a piece_n entitle_v aaron_n rod_n blossom_a wherein_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o ancient_a and_o modern_a church_n as_o to_o this_o great_a point_n of_o truth_n be_v exhibit_v see_v 2._o book_n 1_o cap._n p●…g_n 167._o now_o from_o all_o that_o be_v say_v whither_o presbyterian_a government_n have_v not_o the_o patronage_n of_o the_o pure_a scripture_n antiquity_n and_o a_o full_a consent_n of_o the_o after_o pure_a time_n and_o of_o reform_a church_n and_o divine_n in_o all_o the_o forementioned_a point_n of_o its_o opposition_n to_o the_o prelacy_n now_o establish_v both_o in_o hold_v 1._o the_o identity_n of_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n as_o to_o name_n and_o thing_n 2._o presbyter_n right_a of_o ordination_n and_o jurisdiction_n 3._o the_o people_n interest_n in_o the_o election_n and_o call_v o._n minister_n 4._o the_o rule_a elder_n office_n 5._o the_o church_n intrinsic_a power_n of_o government_n i_o leave_v to_o the_o impartial_a to_o judge_v and_o consequent_o of_o the_o vanity_n of_o this_o new_a dialoguist_n his_o plead_n upon_o this_o point_n a_o confutation_n of_o the_o second_o dialogue_n anent_o the_o covenant_n against_o episcopacy_n wherein_o the_o informer_n reason_v against_o the_o
of_o schism_n which_o he_o say_v we_o be_v carry_v on_o in_o opposition_n to_o the_o peace_n and_o liberty_n of_o this_o church_n which_o christ_n have_v bequeath_v to_o she_o in_o legacy_n this_o heavy_a charge_n we_o will_v glad_o know_v how_o he_o will_v instruct_v and_o because_o he_o can_v stay_v to_o discuss_v that_o point_n in_o this_o dialogue_n we_o will_v therefore_o superse_v our_o enquiry_n here_o and_o pass_v over_o to_o his_o three_o dialogue_n and_o examine_v therein_o the_o ground_n of_o this_o accusation_n which_o we_o doubt_v not_o to_o discover_v to_o be_v as_o irrational_a as_o these_o examine_v in_o the_o precede_a dialogue_n a_o confutation_n of_o the_o three_o dialogue_n upon_o the_o point_n of_o separation_n wherein_o upon_o exhibit_v the_o true_a state_n of_o the_o question_n the_o practice_n of_o adhere_v to_o presbyterian_a minister_n in_o the_o exercise_n of_o their_o ministry_n and_o deny_v of_o a_o subjection_n to_o conformist_n as_o the_o lawful_a pastor_n of_o this_o church_n from_o who_o god_n people_n be_v bind_v to_o receive_v the_o ordinance_n be_v vindicat_fw-la from_o the_o charge_n of_o a_o sinful_a schismatic_a separation_n the_o true_a and_o solid_a ground_n of_o this_o practice_n offer_v and_o the_o informer_n argument_n against_o it_o full_o answer_v chap._n i._n the_o question_n state_v and_o clear_v from_o our_o church_n state_n before_o and_o since_o the_o introduction_n of_o prelacy_n the_o different_a condition_n of_o presbyterian_a minister_n and_o conformist_n separation_n in_o many_o case_n not_o schism_n the_o informer_n groundless_a supposition_n argument_n present_v and_o prosecute_v at_o some_o length_n whereby_o this_o practice_n be_v acquit_v of_o the_o charge_n of_o a_o sinful_a separation_n and_o discover_v to_o fall_v under_o scripture_n precept_n and_o obligation_n as_o duty_n the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n in_o the_o three_o dialogue_n be_v anent_o sinful_a separation_n and_o schism_n whether_o the_o people_n of_o god_n be_v guilty_a of_o it_o in_o adhere_v to_o such_o minister_n as_o contend_v for_o our_o reformation_n rather_o than_o curate_n or_o conformist_n and_o whether_o they_o stand_v in_o this_o case_n of_o our_o church_n oblige_v to_o adhere_v to_o the_o one_o or_o the_o other_o as_o their_o true_a pastor_n from_o who_o they_o be_v to_o receive_v the_o gospel_n ordinance_n and_o to_o who_o they_o owe_v subjection_n reverence_n and_o obedience_n according_o this_o state_n of_o the_o question_n our_o informer_n can_v in_o the_o least_o pick_v a_o quarrel_n at_o it_o be_v most_o suitable_a unto_o his_o plead_n which_o be_v all_o along_o ground_v upon_o this_o supposition_n that_o conformist_n do_v stand_v in_o a_o ministerial_a relation_n to_o this_o church_n and_o professor_n therein_o from_o which_o he_o conclude_v people_n obligation_n to_o adhere_v unto_o they_o as_o their_o only_a true_a and_o proper_a pastor_n and_o in_o correspondence_n to_o this_o principle_n and_o inference_n do_v universal_o and_o absolute_o fasten_v the_o charge_n of_o intrusion_n and_o schism_n upon_o presbyterian_a minister_n and_o people_n as_o to_o their_o respective_a act_n of_o preach_v and_o hear_v in_o their_o present_a state_n and_o circumstance_n so_o that_o if_o we_o can_v overturn_v this_o his_o grand_a topic_a &_o fortify_v the_o antithesis_fw-la thereof_o he_o must_v grant_v that_o all_o his_o reason_n in_o this_o dialogue_n fall_v to_o the_o ground_n for_o clear_v this_o let_v we_o take_v a_o little_a view_n first_o of_o our_o church_n of_o scotland_n her_o case_n at_o prelacy_n introduction_n 2_o of_o her_o present_a case_n three_o of_o the_o different_a ground_n which_o the_o presbyterian_a and_o prelatic_a party_n plead_v upon_o for_o the_o people_n adherence_n four_o on_o who_o side_n the_o separation_n stand_v schism_n be_v a_o sinful_a separation_n from_o a_o church_n with_o who_o &_o in_o what_o act_n we_o be_v bind_v to_o adhere_v so_o that_o when_o this_o question_n be_v clear_v who_o be_v that_o church_n to_o which_o we_o stand_v under_o obligation_n to_o adhere_v it_o will_v go_v far_o to_o clear_v this_o debate_n first_o as_o to_o the_o state_n of_o our_o church_n at_o prelacy_n introduction_n i_o shall_v l●…y_v down_o these_o three_o supposition_n in_o relation_n to_o the_o matter_n of_o fact_n first_o that_o our_o church_n from_o the_o infancy_n of_o her_o reformation_n together_o with_o popry_a reject_a prelacy_n and_o in_o her_o national_a capacity_n and_o in_o her_o supreme_a judicatories_n disow_v it_o as_o contrary_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n as_o a_o piece_n of_o antichrist_n wicked_a hierarchy_n and_o in_o her_o national_a capacity_n abjure_v the_o same_o often_o solemn_o and_o universal_o this_o have_v be_v already_o clear_v upon_o the_o precede_a dialogue_n 2_o presbyterian_a government_n have_v be_v look_v on_o by_o our_o church_n as_o the_o only_a government_n of_o the_o church_n appoint_v by_o christ_n in_o scripture_n and_o as_o the_o hedge_n of_o her_o reform_a doctrine_n nay_o the_o own_n of_o it_o have_v be_v the_o great_a badge_n and_o criterion_n to_o try_v her_o true_a member_n the_o subscribe_v the_o book_n of_o discipline_n and_o the_o national_a covenant_n of_o old_a and_o the_o solemn_a league_n of_o late_a with_o engadgement_n of_o adherence_n to_o presbyterian_a government_n have_v be_v the_o ordinary_a door_n of_o entry_n into_o her_o ministry_n this_o as_o to_o mater_fw-la of_o fact_n be_v clear_a and_o undeniable_a 3_o our_o church_n have_v judicial_o condemn_v e●…astianisme_n and_o minister_n their_o state_n office_n and_o appoint_v judicial_o the_o censure_v of_o the_o opposer_n of_o this_o her_o establishment_n as_o scandalow_n assembly_n 38._o sess._n 16_o 17._o confirm_v and_o renew_v in_o assembly_n 39_o so_o assembly_n 40._o sess_z 5._o in_o the_o second_o place_n as_o to_o our_o church_n her_o present_a condition_n these_o thing_n be_v clear_a and_o undeniable_a 1._o that_o all_o the_o legal_a right_n of_o the_o late_a work_n of_o reformation_n be_v remove_v in_o the_o act_n rescissory_a 2._o presbyterian_a government_n be_v raze_v and_o the_o church-government_n monoplize_v in_o the_o arch_a bishop_n and_o bishop_n obtrude_v upon_o this_o church_n and_o the_o right_a and_o liberty_n of_o presbyter_n and_o all_o our_o former_a church-judicatories_a be_v remove_v and_o take_v away_o 3_o one_fw-mi arbitary_a and_o erastian_n prelacy_n be_v set_v up_o in_o opposition_n both_o unto_o our_o church_n intrinsic_a power_n of_o government_n and_o likewise_o her_o particular_a frame_n of_o presbyterian_a government_n 4._o all_o her_o vow_n and_o great_a oath_n both_o in_o the_o national_a covenant_n as_o explaind_v an._n 1638._o and_o in_o the_o solemn_a league_n against_o prelacy_n and_o for_o maintain_v her_o reformation_n be_v disow_v raze_v and_o cassat_fw-la as_o far_o as_o legal_a enacting_n can_v reach_v 5._o one_fw-mi express_v bad●…e_o be_v appoint_v as_o to_o both_o minister_n and_o people_n their_o own_v this_o course_n of_o defection_n and_o disow_v the_o late_a reformation_n viz._n minister_n submit_v to_o erastianism_n and_o prelacy_n and_o own_v their_o new_a court_n and_o people_n hear_v their_o vi●…ars_n and_o substitute_n for_o the_o same_o scope_n in_o th●…_n ruler_n diclaird_a design_n 6._o minister_n betwixt_o three_o and_o four_o hundred_o disown_n and_o stand_v in_o opposition_n to_o this_o course_n and_o a_o great_a part_n and_o body_n of_o the_o professor_n of_o this_o church_n have_v likewise_o disownd_v the_o same_o &_o stand_v their_o ground_n hence_o upon_o what_o be_v say_v it_o follow_v in_o the_o seven_o place_n that_o one_fw-mi axe_n be_v lay_v to_o the_o root_n of_o her_o reform_a doctrine_n worship_n and_o government_n the_o great_a hedge_n thereof_o be_v remove_v viz_o her_o solemn_a vow_n and_o beside_o her_o doctrinal_a principle_n anent_o the_o antichrist_n and_o his_o hierarchy_n the_o church_n intrinsic_a power_n of_o government_n christian_a liberty_n the_o unlawfulness_n of_o significant_a ceremony_n in_o god_n worship_n her_o doctrine_n anent_o justification_n the_o imperfection_n of_o obedience_n christ_n certain_a determinat_fw-la and_o full_a satisfaction_n for_o sinner_n in_o opposition_n to_o the_o socinian_n and_o arminian_n error_n the_o morality_n of_o the_o sabbath_n etc._n etc._n be_v oppose_v by_o this_o innovate_a prelatic_a party_n and_o next_o for_o her_o worship_n beside_o what_o corruption_n be_v already_o introduce_v and_o other_o plead_v for_o as_o the_o perth_n article_n &c._n &c._n it_o be_v upon_o the_o matter_n subject_v to_o man_n arbitrary_a imposition_n and_o our_o national_a covenant_n and_o conf●…ssion_n be_v disownd_v ae_z strike_v against_o popish_a corruption_n and_o also_o our_o late_a confession_n as_o assert_v the_o abovementioned_a doctrine_n &_o principle_n and_o for_o government_n the_o curate_n be_v mere_a slave_n of_o prelate_n in_o all_o their_o meeting_n by_o his_o negative_a voice_n and_o the_o prelate_n themselves_o be_v but_o the_o magistrate_n creature_n and_o
principle_n doctrine_n &_o practice_n be_v point_n blank_a contrary_n thereunto_o be_v not_o 2._o it_o suppose_v that_o there_o be_v no_o lawful_a use_n of_o ordinance_n among_o presbyterian_a minister_n as_o person_n who_o have_v no_o lawful_a call_n to_o officiat_fw-la in_o this_o case_n hence_o this_o man_n plead_v for_o disow_v they_o universal_o and_o absolute_o but_o we_o affirm_v they_o be_v minister_n stand_v in_o that_o relation_n to_o this_o church_n and_o under_o the_o obligation_n of_o christ_n command_v to_o officiat_fw-la which_o conformist_n have_v not_o yet_o disprove_v 4._o he_o suppose_v that_o every_o thing_n which_o may_v be_v expedient_a as_o to_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o order_n of_o a_o church_n when_o enjoin_v her_o full_a peaceable_a constitution_n will_v equal_o oblige_v in_o her_o break_a and_o persecute_v condition_n when_o a_o prevail_a backslide_a party_n be_v in_o her_o bosom_n now_o scripture_n and_o reasen_n will_v disprove_v this_o circumstance_n of_o order_n must_v give_v place_n to_o important_a duty_n in_o extreme_a necessity_n as_o this_o be_v the_o scatter_a officer_n of_o the_o church_n of_o jerusalem_n go_v every_o where_o preach_v the_o gospel_n act._n 8_o so_o do_v minister_n in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o reformation_n 4._o it_o be_v suppose_v that_o our_o change_n be_v only_o as_o to_o government_n and_o such_o only_a as_o be_v in_o king_n james_n time_n both_o which_o we_o have_v show_v to_o be_v false_a 5._o he_o take_v for_o grant_v that_o their_o personal_a fault_n who_o be_v conformist_n and_o a_o suppose_a pullution_n of_o the_o worship_n thereby_o be_v our_o ground_n of_o non-union_n and_o that_o our_o grant_v they_o to_o have_v the_o essence_n of_o a_o ministerial_a call_n and_o that_o their_o scandal_n will_v not_o pollute_v the_o worship_n will_v infer_v the_o hear_n of_o they_o in_o this_o our_o case_n which_o be_v also_o false_a for_o even_o upon_o this_o supposition_n we_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o own_v they_o no_o more_o than_o one_fw-mi ingraind_a schismatic_a obtrude_v forcible_o by_o a_o party_n of_o the_o congregation_n upon_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o people_n may_v be_v own_v on_o this_o ground_n 6_o this_o man_n beg_v the_o question_n in_o suppose_v that_o the_o constitution_n and_o frame_n of_o the_o prelacy_n now_o establish_v be_v the_o same_o with_o that_o of_o the_o ancient_a church_n for_o he_o often_o tell_v we_o that_o we_o will_v have_v separate_a from_o the_o ancient_a church_n upon_o the_o same_o ground_n for_o which_o we_o disow_v conformist_n whereas_o we_o have_v show_v the_o difference_n of_o our_o prelacy_n from_o they_o in_o many_o point_n that_o our_o prelate_n both_o as_o diocesian_n &_o erastian_n be_v whole_o discrepant_a from_o the_o ancient_a bishop_n 7._o he_o take_v it_o for_o grant_v that_o minister_n who_o disow_v this_o course_n of_o backslide_v their_o relation_n to_o their_o flock_n be_v cut_v off_o in_o the_o present_a posture_n of_o our_o church_n and_o that_o the_o prelate_n and_o their_o substitute_n the_o curate_n be_v the_o only_a proper_a representative_a church_n of_o scotland_n who_o according_o have_v only_o the_o lawful_a power_n and_o exercise_v of_o the_o key_n as_o to_o either_o admission_n or_o censure_n of_o minister_n a_o principle_n always_o disow_v by_o our_o church_n see_v protester_n no_o subverter_n pag._n 96._o rutherfoord_v due_a right_n of_o presbyt_fw-la pag._n 430._o 431._o altar_n damasc._n pag._n 23._o 8._o he_o suppose_v that_o its_o unlawful_a in_o this_o our_o case_n to_o officiat_fw-la ren●…tente_fw-la magistrat●…_n that_o this_o very_a violence_n and_o the_o present_a law_n will_v render_v minister_n officiate_a unwarrantable_a pag._n 205._o which_o be_v a_o great_a mistake_n for_o the_o magistrate_n can_v loose_v from_o the_o pastoral_a relation_n which_o he_o give_v not_o ejusdem_fw-la est_fw-la constituere_fw-la &_o destituere_fw-la a●…esmedull_n cap._n 30._o thes_n 14._o and_o hence_o the_o minister_n relation_n to_o the_o church_n national_n stand_v though_o he_o restrain_v the_o exercise_n thereof_o in_o any_o one_o place_n and_o consequent_a lie_v the_o tie_n and_o command_v to_o officiat_fw-la so_o that_o disobey_v the_o magistrate_n command_v not_o to_o officiat_fw-la be_v no_o disobedience_n to_o his_o lawful_a authority_n nay_o apollonius_n think_v that_o the_o divine_a relation_n of_o a_o minister_n to_o this_o church_n though_o banish_v from_o his_o native_a country_n do_v stand_v ius_n majestatis_fw-la circasacra_fw-la part_n 1._o pag._n 331._o 9_o he_o still_o suppose_v that_o what_o will_v not_o exse_v or_o of_o itself_o plead_v for_o disow_v the_o hear_n of_o the_o gospel_n or_o of_o a_o minister_n simpliciter_fw-la will_v plead_v nothing_o in_o this_o our_o case_n for_o disow_a conformist_n the_o man_n weakness_n personal_a fault_n not_o lecture_v etc._n etc._n be_v not_o of_o themselves_o sufficient_a to_o cut_v we_o off_o from_o hear_v absolute_o but_o though_o this_o be_v grant_v we_o have_v the_o pure_a genuine_a church_n of_o scotland_n and_o her_o faithful_a ministry_n to_o adhere_v unto_o and_o over_o and_o above_o these_o ground_n mention_v conformist_n schismatic_a practice_n and_o corrupt_a doctrine_n to_o lay_v to_o their_o charge_n which_o will_v make_v this_o ground_n in_o our_o case_n very_o weighty_a and_o preponderate_a and_o this_o the_o informer_n himself_o must_v grant_v for_o he_o will_v not_o say_v that_o such_o like_a pretence_n or_o argument_n in_o our_o case_n be_v valid_a as_o to_o the_o own_n of_o nonconformist_n and_o des●…rting_v of_o curate_n moreover_o he_o will_v grant_v that_o presbyterian_a minister_n may_v lawful_o be_v hear_v if_o conformist_n be_v not_o stand_v in_o their_o way_n now_o so_o the_o case_n be_v in_o relation_n to_o presbyterian_a minister_n plead_v for_o that_o none_o of_o these_o thing_n which_o he_o mention_n be_v valid_a to_o infer_v people_n disow_v of_o conformist_n be_v there_o no_o other_o minister_n in_o scotland_n and_o if_o this_o church_n have_v universal_o both_o minister_n and_o people_n fall_v into_o this_o cou●…se_n of_o backslide_v will_v be_v ready_o grant_v but_o without_o any_o advantage_n to_o his_o cause_n as_o be_v evident_a to_o these_o many_o discovery_n of_o his_o beg_v the_o question_n in_o this_o debate_n our_o plea_n and_o argument_n will_v be_v clear_a if_o we_o add_v a_o short_a view_n of_o our_o supposition_n in_o this_o case_n and_o question_n such_o as_o 1._o our_o principle_n of_o the_o unlawfulness_n of_o prelacy_n 2._o the_o bind_a force_n of_o our_o covenant_n 3._o our_o church_n divine_a tight_a to_o her_o reformation_n and_o privilege_n once_o establish_v 4._o that_o this_o be_v a_o case_n both_o of_o defection_n and_o persecution_n 5._o of_o competition_n betwixt_o minister_n &_o professor_n contend_v for_o our_o reformation_n and_o a_o party_n of_o backslider_n overturning_a it_o 6._o the_o tendency_n of_o this_o course_n of_o prelatic_a defection_n to_o raze_v our_o reformation_n and_o that_o if_o not_o prevent_v it_o will_v end_v in_o propery_n 7._o that_o presbyterian_a minister_n relation_n to_o this_o church_n and_o their_o obligation_n to_o duty_n found_v upon_o that_o relation_n be_v not_o extinguish_v but_o subsist_v notwithstanding_o of_o the_o present_a violence_n and_o persecution_n which_o they_o with_o their_o weep_a mother_n be_v expose_v unto_o have_v premise_v these_o thing_n from_o what_o be_v say_v we_o may_v draw_v forth_o at_o length_n the_o great_a state_n of_o the_o question_n thus_o whether_o when_o the_o reformation_n of_o a_o national_a church_n in_o doctrine_n worship_n discipline_n and_o government_n be_v by_o a_o backslide_a party_n overturnd_v and_o a_o course-carryed_n on_o to_o raze_v it_o god_n have_v leave_v a_o considerable_a body_n of_o minister_n &_o professor_n who_o stand_v in_o opposition_n to_o that_o course_n and_o be_v in_o their_o capacity_n testify_v against_o it_o be_v these_o minister_n and_o professor_n who_o preach_v and_o hear_v in_o opposition_n to_o that_o course_n or_o the_o comply_a ministry_n and_o hearer_n the_o schismatic_n this_o be_v clear_o the_o state_n of_o this_o question_n we_o shall_v offer_v these_o argument_n to_o fortify_v our_o principle_n of_o disow_a conformist_n in_o this_o our_o case_n and_o deny_v a_o subjection_n to_o they_o as_o the_o minister_n of_o this_o church_n and_o adherence_n to_o presbyterian_a minister_n in_o the_o exercise_n of_o their_o ministry_n and_o acquit_v this_o principle_n and_o practice_n from_o the_o informer_n charge_v of_o sinful_a separation_n 1._o whoever_o of_o the_o two_o partiss_fw-la adhere_v unto_o the_o true_a genuine_a church_n own_v her_o constitution_n authority_n and_o privilege_n its_o certain_a the_o contrary_a party_n must_v be_v the_o schismatics_n here_o it_o must_v be_v see_v who_o be_v the_o first_o departer_n who_o have_v first_o break_v the_o hedge_n who_o have_v first_o disownd_v and_o oppose_v the_o covenant_n the_o government_n the_o sound_n and_o
they_o than_o those_o that_o be_v mere_o ordain_v by_o the_o prelate_n 3._o he_o tell_v we_o that_o on_o this_o ground_n we_o will_v not_o adhere_v to_o these_o who_o timothy_n and_o titus_n ordain_v nor_o will_v we_o have_v hear_v a_o minister_n for_o many_o age_n of_o the_o church_n then_o he_o tell_v we_o of_o jerom_n quid_fw-la facit_fw-la excepta_fw-la ordinatione_fw-la episcopus_fw-la and_o that_o minister_n have_v now_o a_o hand_n in_o ordain_v conformist_n that_o on_o this_o ground_n we_o will_v not_o have_v hear_v the_o member_n of_o the_o assembly_n 1638._o who_o be_v thus_o ordain_v and_o some_o now_o though_o non-conformists'_a who_o be_v ordain_v before_o the_o year_n 1638_o by_o bishop_n the_o valitidity_n of_o which_o ordination_n be_v vindicat_fw-la by_o ●…us_fw-la dicinum_fw-la minist_n ang●…ie_v ans._n we_o have_v already_o prove_v that_o episcopal_a ordination_n be_v not_o in_o the_o lest_o warrant_a by_o the_o authority_n of_o timothy_n and_o titus_n suppose_v in_o these_o epistle_n but_o rather_o a_o presbyterial_a ordination_n which_o be_v the_o pattern_n show_v upon_o the_o mount_n 2._o we_o have_v also_o prove_v that_o his_o prelatic_a ordination_n whereof_o the_o prelate_n have_v he_o sole_a and_o proper_a power_n according_a to_o this_o constitution_n be_v a_o stranger_n in_o the_o first_o pure_a age_n and_o even_o in_o jerom_n time_n 3._o we_o have_v also_o prove_v that_o the_o grant_n of_o the_o essentials_n of_o their_o ministerial_a call_n who_o be_v ordain_v by_o bishop_n will_v plead_v nothing_o for_o own_v curate_n who_o be_v both_o scandalous_a and_o perjure_a intruder_n and_o have_v nothing_o for_o the_o most_o part_n which_o may_v in_o the_o least_o ground_n a_o charitable_a construction_n that_o they_o be_v ever_o call_v of_o god_n and_o be_v stand_v in_o opposition_n to_o a_o faithful_a ministry_n by_o they_o exclude_v and_o persecute_v from_o their_o watcthower_n none_o of_o which_o can_v be_v say_v of_o the_o instance_n which_o he_o mention_n as_o for_o that_o concurrence_n which_o he_o pretend_v conformist_n have_v with_o the_o bishop_n in_o ordination_n of_o minister_n it_o be_v according_a to_o our_o law_n mere_o precarious_a and_o pro_fw-la forma_fw-la and_o therefore_o utter_o insufficient_a to_o found_v his_o conclusion_n the_o doubter_n object_n that_o though_o some_o of_o they_o be_v ordain_v by_o the_o presbytery_n yet_o they_o be_v now_o turn_v the_o bishop_n curate_n he_o may_v have_v add_v and_o turn_v court_n or_o erastian-curats_n since_o the_o all_o of_o our_o present_a conformist_n authority_n be_v derive_v from_o the_o court_n and_o subordinat_a to_o the_o supremacy_n as_o be_v evident_a in_o the_o act_n of_o restitution_n and_o other_o subsequent_o act_n in_o answer_n to_o this_o he_o allege_n weakness_n of_o judgement_n strength_n of_o passion_n in_o the_o objecter_n but_o real_o show_v both_o in_o himself_o by_o tell_v we_o that_o we_o may_v fear_v christ_n threaten_v he_o that_o despise_v you_o despise_v i_o since_o he_o have_v not_o yet_o make_v it_o appear_v that_o the_o man_n he_o plead_v for_o have_v a_o relaion_n to_o this_o church_n as_o her_o true_a pastor_n according_a to_o the_o principle_n and_o tenor_n of_o our_o reformation_n then_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o curate_n signify_v a_o cure_n of_o soul_n but_o the_o true_a nonconformist_a tell_v his_o fellow_n dialogist_n that_o this_o term_n owe_v its_o invention_n to_o man_n vanity_n loathe_v the_o lowly_a scripture_n style_n of_o minister_n and_o be_v in_o effect_n nothing_o but_o the_o issue_n of_o the_o corrution_n of_o the_o church_n humility_n and_o that_o what_o they_o pretend_v herein_o while_o destroy_v in_o stead_n of_o feed_v be_v like_a to_o stand_v in_o judgement_n against_o they_o at_o the_o great_a day_n for_o his_o next_o interpretation_n of_o curate_n viz._n he_o that_o serve_v the_o cure_n though_o not_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o place_n but_o the_o substitute_n of_o another_o we_o owe_v he_o thanks_o for_o one_o egg_n be_v not_o like_a another_o than_o they_o be_v to_o such_o vicarious_a substitute_n but_o he_o will_v not_o have_v they_o call_v the_o bishop_n curate_n as_o if_o he_o be_v pastor_n of_o the_o diocese_n and_o they_o depute_v under_o he_o and_o bishop_n he_o say_v have_v such_o thought_n of_o minister_n what_o their_o thought_n be_v be_v best_a see_v by_o their_o deed_n we_o have_v prove_v that_o according_a to_o this_o frame_n of_o prelacy_n the_o bishop_n be_v proper_o the_o sole_a pastor_n of_o the_o diocese_n in_o the_o 7._o argument_n against_o prelacy_n the_o doubter_n next_o objection_n be_v that_o they_o be_v perjure_v person_n and_o therefore_o not_o to_o be_v hear_v he_o answer_v 1._o that_o many_o of_o they_o never_o take_v the_o covenant_n and_o therefore_o be_v not_o perjure_v which_o be_v already_o remove_v when_o we_o do_v prove_v from_o deut._n 29._o that_o it_o oblidge_n even_o those_o who_o do_v not_o personal_o swear_v it_o be_v remarkable_a that_o deut._n 5._o 2_o 3._o god_n be_v say_v to_o have_v make_v a_o covenant_n with_o his_o people_n in_o horeb_n even_o with_o we_o say_v moses_n and_o all_o of_o we_o alive_a here_o this_o day_n they_o be_v dead_a who_o engage_v at_o horeb_n and_o many_o there_o present_a be_v not_o then_o bear_v so_o neh._n 9_o 38._o all_o enter_v into_o covenant_n but_o some_o only_o do_v seal_v it_o sure_o the_o intention_n and_o relation_n of_o the_o covenanter_n and_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o oath_n itself_o will_v make_v it_o thus_o extensive_a next_o he_o say_v minister_n that_o take_v it_o and_o comply_v with_o prelacy_n be_v not_o perjure_v for_o the_o reason_n which_o be_v give_v in_o the_o last_o conference_n which_o reason_n i_o have_v there_o answer_v and_o prove_v that_o there_o be_v nothing_o in_o our_o case_n which_o may_v in_o the_o least_o limit_n or_o invalidat_fw-la its_o obligation_n and_o upon_o the_o ground_n which_o be_v offer_v to_o evince_v the_o stand_a obligation_n of_o that_o oath_n i_o do_v affirm_v that_o they_o be_v perjure_v 3._o he_o tell_v we_o that_o scandalous_a fault_n though_o deserve_a censure_n yet_o while_o it_o be_v not_o inflict_v and_o the_o person_n not_o convict_v his_o ministry_n ought_v to_o be_v wait_v upon_o as_o judas_n who_o come_v clothe_v with_o christ_n commission_n to_o preach_v so_o long_o as_o he_o be_v not_o convict_v yet_o be_v to_o be_v hear_v ans._n 1._o he_o grant_v that_o scandalous_a fault_n special_o of_o a_o high_a nature_n and_o if_o the_o man_n be_v impenitent_a do_v deserve_v deposition_n now_o their_o fault_n be_v both_o scandalous_a and_o of_o a_o high_a nature_n such_o as_o profanity_n perjury_n and_o apostasy_n in_o all_o which_o they_o be_v most_o impenitent_a and_o avow_v the_o same_o and_o as_o for_o their_o be_v convict_v and_o censure_v which_o he_o require_v as_o needful_a for_o disow_v they_o i_o answer_v they_o stand_v upon_o the_o matter_n convict_v by_o clear_a scripture_n ground_n and_o by_o the_o stand_a act_n and_o judicial_a decision_n of_o this_o church_n in_o her_o supreme_a judicatory_n and_o assembly_n which_o have_v condemn_v and_o make_v censurable_a with_o deposition_n their_o present_a principle_n and_o practice_n in_o opposition_n to_o her_o vow_n and_o government_n again_o there_o be_v a_o great_a difference_n betwixt_o what_o ought_v to_o be_v people_n carriage_n towards_o scandalous_a minister_n when_o a_o redress_n by_o lawful_a church_n judicatory_n may_v be_v have_v to_o which_o people_n may_v have_v recourse_n and_o what_o the_o duty_n of_o a_o people_n be_v in_o that_o case_n wherein_o a_o prevail_a backslide_a party_n and_o a_o persecute_v magistrate_n own_o such_o minister_n so_o that_o the_o true_a church_n can_v have_v no_o access_n for_o censure_v and_o remove_v they_o in_o this_o last_o case_n suppose_v their_o scandal_n to_o be_v of_o a_o high_a nature_n this_o inevitable_a necessity_n of_o the_o church_n incapacity_n for_o present_a may_v supply_v the_o defect_n of_o a_o formal_a censure_n in_o the_o judgement_n of_o some_o and_o ground_n a_o disow_n of_o they_o as_o if_o they_o be_v already_o cast_v out_o especial_o if_o their_o entry_n be_v by_o perjurious_a intrusion_n and_o their_o profanity_n and_o scandal_n thereafter_o notour_n to_o all_o now_o how_o applicable_a this_o be_v to_o conformist_n need_v not_o my_o pain_n to_o subsume_v we_o may_v also_o here_o tell_v he_o that_o there_o be_v scandal_n which_o be_v official_a render_v the_o man_n coram_fw-la deo_fw-la no_o officer_n and_o that_o in_o case_n of_o their_o become_v very_o atrocius_fw-la mr_n durham_n will_v allow_v to_o depart_v to_o more_o pure_a ordinance_n on_o scandal_n page_n 129._o although_o we_o will_v not_o take_v upon_o we_o to_o determine_v how_o &_o in_o what_o case_n during_o the_o church_n incapacity_n &_o discompose_v state_n a_o minister_n atrocious_a scandal_n after_o his_o entry_n and_o
we_o do_v under_o such_o like_a restriction_n and_o limitation_n upon_o which_o people_n be_v enjoin_v to_o observe_v what_o the_o pharisee_n prescribe_v we_o may_v observe_v what_o civil_a ruler_n bid_v we_o do_v but_o not_o own_v they_o as_o teacher_n 2._o there_o be_v many_o thing_n in_o the_o context_n which_o seem_v utter_o to_o repugn_v to_o this_o inference_n that_o our_o lord_n enjoin_v the_o own_n or_o attend_v of_o their_o instruction_n as_o ecclesiastic_a teacher_n 1._o he_o bid_v beware_v of_o their_o leaven_n or_o doctrine_n math._n 16._o 12._o join_v they_o with_o sadducees_o who_o deny_v the_o resurrection_n and_o err_v fundamental_o sure_o not_o to_o hear_v they_o be_v the_o best_a way_n to_o evite_v their_o leaven_n 2._o it_o will_v be_v hard_a to_o prove_v that_o they_o be_v priest_n pharisees_n since_o all_o the_o pharisee_n be_v not_o such_o as_o nieodemus_fw-la and_o joseph_n of_o arimathea_n who_o be_v civil_a ruler_n and_o consequent_o any_o command_n to_o obey_v they_o will_v no_o more_o infer_v hear_v they_o preach_v than_o such_o a_o command_n as_o to_o council_n or_o parliament_n the_o thing_n command_v be_v not_o hear_v they_o as_o teacher_n but_o only_a obebienc●…_n which_o may_v be_v very_o proper_o enjoin_v as_o to_o civil_a ruler_n 3._o the_o quality_n ascribe_v unto_o they_o such_o as_o their_o sit_v in_o moses_n chair_n who_o be_v king_n in_o jesurun_n not_o aaron_n who_o be_v the_o py_a their_o love_v the_o chief_a seat_n in_o synagogue_n whereas_o if_o teacher_n their_o chief_a seat_n be_v know_v and_o appropriate_v to_o they_o their_o pay_a tithe_n whereas_o if_o priest_n tithe_n be_v payable_a to_o they_o these_o quality_n i_o say_v seem_v to_o import_v that_o they_o be_v not_o priest_n and_o teacher_n by_o office_n that_o hear_v of_o they_o or_o attend_v their_o ministry_n as_o such_o be_v enjoin_v hear_v of_o and_o attede_v their_o ministry_n as_o such_o 15._o 4._o christ_n bid_v let_v they_o alone_o which_o sound_v like_a own_o they_o not_o as_o teacher_n he_o call_v they_o blind_a leader_n of_o the_o blind_a nay_o he_o call_v they_o the_o stranger_n who_o voice_n the_o true_a sheep_n hear_v not_o but_o rather_o the_o true_a shepherd_n math._n 15._o 13_o 14_o joh._n 10._o 4_o 5._o and_o such_o as_o shut_v up_o heaven_n against_o man_n and_o hinder_v such_o as_o be_v enter_v all_o which_o seem_v very_o inconsistent_a with_o a_o command_n of_o hear_v they_o 5_o christ_n speak_v to_o the_o disciple_n as_o well_o as_o the_o people_n in_o this_o precept_n now_o its_o certain_a that_o neither_o the_o disciple_n do_v eyer_n hear_v they_o nor_o can_v they_o leave_v his_o ministry_n nor_o be_v it_o find_v that_o christ_n who_o come_v to_o fulfil_v all_o righteousness_n teach_v they_o to_o do_v so_o by_o his_o example_n final_o the_o word_n of_o this_o precept_n have_v for_o their_o scope_n to_o engage_v to_o beware_v of_o the_o pharisee_n infectious_a evil_n so_o that_o this_o command_n to_o do_v &_o observe_v what_o they_o deliver_v as_o sit_v in_o moses_n seat_n which_o they_o do_v then_o possess_v be_v but_o by_o way_n of_o concession_n which_o suppose_v only_o that_o which_o he_o intend_v short_o to_o abolish_v and_o now_o will_v have_v improven_v for_o the_o best_a advantadge_n 2._o grant_v that_o they_o be_v to_o be_v hear_v i_o deny_v his_o consequence_n that_o therefore_o curate_n in_o this_o our_o case_n be_v to_o be_v hear_v also_o the_o case_n be_v very_o different_a and_o the_o disparity_n when_o clear_v will_v discover_v his_o consequence_n to_o be_v naught_o from_o the_o hear_n of_o the_o pharisee_n to_o the_o hear_n of_o conformist_n i_o offer_v it_o then_o in_o these_o particular_n 1._o these_o pharisee_n ministry_n be_v not_o of_o itself_o actual_o exclusive_a of_o and_o a_o direct_a intrusion_n upon_o the_o ministry_n of_o faithful_a teacher_n suppose_v they_o have_v chase_v away_o all_o israel_n lawful_a teacher_n and_o by_o perjurious_a violence_n thrust_v themselves_o into_o their_o room_n will_v our_o lord_n have_v bid_v own_o or_o hear_v they_o if_o our_o informer_n say_v so_o he_o will_v contradict_v himself_o and_o overturn_v the_o scope_n of_o his_o reason_n in_o this_o dialogue_n for_o he_o thnik_v that_o the_o ministry_n of_o presbyterian_a minister_n be_v intrusion_n and_o thereupon_o plead_v for_o disow_v and_o not_o hear_v they_o 2._o he_o plead_v for_o own_v curate_n as_o christ_n ambassador_n clothe_v with_o his_o authority_n to_o deliver_v his_o message_n but_o christ_n do_v here_o at_o least_o for_o any_o thing_n he_o have_v say_v from_o this_o text_n only_o enjoin_v to_o hear_v the_o pharisee_n interpretation_n and_o decision_n of_o that_o nation_n municipal_a or_o civil_a law_n anent_o the_o rule_n of_o external_a righteousness_n and_o civil_a policy_n which_o two_o be_v very_o different_a 3._o christ_n have_v guard_v the_o law_n from_o their_o corrupt_a gloss_n and_o the_o disciple_n from_o their_o snare_n show_v in_o this_o precept_n how_o to_o make_v the_o best_a advantage_n of_o that_o dispensation_n now_o ready_a to_o vanish_v away_o since_o he_o be_v short_o to_o erect_v a_o gospel_n ministry_n and_o remove_v all_o that_o legal_a dispensation_n and_o then_o none_o of_o they_o be_v to_o be_v hear_v but_o this_o man_n plead_v for_o disow_v our_o faithful_a send_v gospel_n minister_n under_o a_o stand_a relation_n to_o this_o church_n and_o the_o obligation_n of_o christ_n stand_a command_n and_o commission_n to_o officiat_fw-la and_o this_o in_o favour_n of_o intrude_a hireling_n usurp_v their_o place_n and_o oppose_v these_o faithful_a ambassador_n in_o their_o master_n work_n and_o message_n now_o who_o see_v not_o the_o difference_n betwixt_o these_o 4._o they_o be_v not_o in_o a_o state_v opposition_n to_o a_o faithful_a body_n of_o teacher_n acknowledge_v and_o own_a by_o the_o sound_a church_n of_o israel_n and_o testify_v against_o they_o seek_v to_o root_v they_o out_o and_o together_o with_o they_o a_o reformation_n to_o which_o all_o have_v recent_o vow_v adherence_n 5._o there_o be_v no_o badge_n or_o test_n of_o compliance_n w●…b_v all_o their_o abomination_n particular_o appoint_v and_o enjoin_v by_o the_o ruler_n in_o this_o act_n of_o hear_v they_o as_o there_o be_v in_o our_o case_n in_o relation_n to_o the_o hear_n of_o curate_n render_v as_o i_o say_v the_o not_o hear_v they_o and_o adherence_n rather_o to_o a_o faithful_a ministry_n testify_v against_o they_o a_o case_n of_o confession_n especial_o this_o difference_n will_v be_v apparent_a if_o our_o national_a vow_n and_o covenant_n express_o oblige_v to_o adhere_v to_o these_o faithful_a minister_n in_o opposition_n to_o they_o and_o their_o course_n of_o backslide_v be_v due_o ponder_v next_o as_o for_o what_o he_o say_v of_o simeon_n and_o anna_n joseph_n and_o mary_n their_o attend_v the_o temple_n worship_n at_o that_o time_n as_o his_o argument_n there_o from_o be_v remove_v by_o what_o be_v say_v so_o to_o clear_v this_o further_a i_o add_v 1._o that_o its_o wide_a reason_n from_o the_o godly_a their_o lawful_a concurrence_n with_o that_o church_n now_o under_o the_o rust_n of_o old_a corruption_n in_o what_o be_v good_a and_o sound_a to_o our_o desert_v a_o sound_a church_n and_o ministry_n to_o comply_v with_o abjure_a corruption_n and_o schismatic_a innovator_n reintroduce_v after_o they_o have_v be_v cast_v out_o 2._o it_o be_v as_o wide_a reason_n from_o their_o not_o separate_v from_o god_n ancient_a church_n upon_o the_o ground_n of_o corruption_n to_o conclude_v against_o noncompliance_a with_o a_o party_n who_o be_v not_o our_o church_n though_o they_o usurp_v her_o name_n but_o be_v oppose_v and_o testify_v against_o by_o our_o true_a church_n and_o ministry_n we_o in_o this_o case_n as_o i_o have_v say_v do_v not_o separat_fw-la from_o the_o church_n of_o scotland_n her_o doctrine_n worship_n or_o ministry_n but_o only_o from_o schismatic_a backslider_n from_o the_o union_n &_o reformation_n of_o this_o church_n but_o in_o the_o case_n of_o these_o old_a saint_n &_o worthy_n separation_n from_o the_o temple_n will_v have_v import_v a_o absolute_a separation_n from_o the_o ministry_n &_o church_n of_o israel_n in_o a_o word_n the_o utter_a impertinency_n of_o all_o his_o plead_n in_o this_o argument_n and_o from_o these_o instance_n appear_v in_o this_o that_o he_o suppose_v that_o its_o mere_o for_o conformist_n personal_a fault_n we_o disowne_v ordinance_n administer_v by_o they_o as_o if_o they_o be_v ther●…_n by_o pollute_a which_o have_v no_o more_o truth_n in_o it_o then_o that_o its_o mere_o for_o presbyterian_a minister_n personal_a fault_n as_o pullute_v the_o worship_n that_o he_o plead_v for_o disow_v they_o but_o upon_o the_o ground_n of_o the_o present_a case_n and_o circumstance_n wherein_o they_o stand_v he_o plead_v for_o disow_v presbyterian_a minister_n and_o they_o
that_o number_n and_o not_o their_o joint_n polity_n and_o form_v thought_n address_v also_o main_o to_o the_o plain_a and_o unlearned_a reader_n yet_o for_o its_o scope_n and_o substance_n i_o doubt_v not_o but_o it_o will_v be_v find_v such_o as_o be_v able_a to_o speak_v with_o the_o enemy_n in_o the_o gate_n and_o succsesful_o to_o undergo_v their_o assault_n if_o any_o such_o be_v make_v upon_o it_o one_o thing_n be_v indeed_o to_o be_v regret_v whereof_o i_o can_v not_o but_o acquaint_v the_o reader_n in_o this_o place_n that_o because_o of_o many_o difficulty_n which_o the_o overseer_n of_o the_o first_o part_n in_o answer_n to_o the_o first_o dialogue_n at_o the_o press_n do_v labour_n under_o both_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o copy_n and_o several_a other_o way_n there_o be_v some_o considerable_a tipographical_a error_n which_o have_v creep_v into_o it_o and_o several_a latin_a and_o greeck_n word_n misrepresent_v of_o which_o error_n such_o as_o do_v considerable_o mar_v the_o sense_n be_v note_v among_o the_o errata_fw-la the_o other_o part_n it_o be_v hope_v will_v not_o be_v so_o bad_a &_o create_v the_o reader_n such_o difficulty_n i_o shall_v also_o here_o acquaint_v the_o reader_n that_o i_o have_v see_v a_o manuscript_n entitle_v position_n relate_v to_o public_a worship_n maintain_v by_o presbyterian_o in_o former_a time_n and_o contradict_v by_o the_o practice_n of_o many_o in_o these_o day_n drive_v the_o same_o design_n with_o this_o informer_n in_o his_o third_n di._n alogue_n and_o upon_o the_o same_o ground_n whereof_o i_o have_v write_v a_o considerable_a time_n since_o a_o full_a examen_fw-la but_o can_v here_o present_v it_o both_o because_o that_o pasquil_a be_v not_o extant_a and_o especial_o because_o it_o be_v for_o substance_n fullyanswered_a in_o this_o reply_n the_o author_n upon_o these_o general_a acknowledge_v ground_n of_o the_o obligation_n lie_v upon_o all_o church-member_n to_o attend_v the_o ordinance_n the_o unlawfulnesse_n of_o separate_n from_o public_a worship_n for_o the_o sin_n of_o minister_n or_o fellow-worshipper_n the_o condemn_v of_o the_o brounist_n in_o england_n by_o the_o old_a nonconformist_n there_o because_o of_o a_o total_a separation_n though_o themselves_o do_v separat_fw-la in_o part_n their_o acknowledge_v of_o the_o lawfulness_n of_o episcopal_a ordination_n for_o substance_n etc._n etc._n draw_v out_o a_o strange_a and_o remote_a conclusion_n against_o presbyterian_a minister_n of_o this_o church_n their_o officiate_a in_o their_o present_a case_n &_o circumstance_n and_o people_n adhere_v to_o they_o in_o the_o exercise_n of_o their_o ministry_n the_o absurdity_n of_o which_o inference_n and_o what_o a_o sand-rope_n connexion_n it_o be_v need_v not_o any_o renew_a discovery_n here_o which_o be_v but_o actum_fw-la agere_fw-la the_o impertinent_a and_o groundless_a supposition_n upon_o which_o this_o inference_n be_v found_v and_o the_o confuse_a shuffle_n together_o of_o thatwhich_v in_o this_o question_n be_v to_o be_v distinguish_v be_v abundant_o above_o evince_v and_o also_o the_o apparent_a inconsistency_n of_o this_o way_n and_o method_n of_o argue_v since_o from_o all_o these_o ground_n a_o destroy_a conclusion_n may_v be_v draw_v out_o against_o this_o pasquiller_n in_o reference_n to_o the_o own_n of_o presbyterian_a minister_n in_o their_o ministry_n since_o the_o ordinance_n administer_v by_o they_o be_v real_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n their_o mission_n and_o ordination_n warrantable_a the_o worship_n not_o corrupt_v by_o their_o suppose_a scandal_n and_o consequent_o they_o be_v high_o guilty_a who_o disown_n their_o ministry_n or_o plead_v for_o it_o or_o else_o to_o evite_v the_o deadly_a rebound_n of_o his_o own_o weapon_n and_o argue_v he_o must_v state_n the_o question_n of_o new_a and_o restrict_n and_o limit_n to_o the_o particular_a state_n and_o circumstance_n of_o this_o church_n but_o then_o he_o must_v confess_v his_o argue_v upon_o these_o general_a position_n to_o be_v but_o beat_v of_o the_o air_n and_o poor_a childish_a babble_n it_o be_v not_o unpleasant_a to_o trace_v the_o many_o gross_a contradiction_n incident_a to_o this_o way_n of_o argue_v and_o apparent_a to_o man_n of_o a_o ordinary_a reach_n who_o have_v read_v this_o paper_n first_o attend_v of_o ordinance_n add_v receive_n they_o from_o conformist_n be_v all_o one_o and_o identify_v with_o they_o yea_o tie_v with_o adamantine_a chain_n yet_o in_o the_o case_n of_o presbyterian_a minister_n these_o two_o be_v as_o far_o separat_fw-la as_o east_n &_o west_n second_o nothing_o but_o a_o substantial_a corruption_n of_o ordinance_n administer_v by_o conformist_n can_v warrant_v a_o withdraw_n from_o they_o &_o this_o principle_n say_v the_o author_n have_v strong_a scripture_n ground_n to_o warrant_v it_o but_o take_v this_o principle_n over_o to_o presbyterian_a minister_n and_o then_o it_o lose_v all_o its_o virtue_n and_o he_o will_v find_v ground_n of_o separate_n from_o they_o be_v ordinance_n never_o so_o pure_a and_o this_o be_v no_o strange_a thing_n the_o sharp_a sight_a eye_n can_v see_v itself_o three_o a_o man_n can_v never_o be_v reconcile_v to_o himself_o who_o confess_v the_o episcopal_a ordination_n lawful_a and_o yet_o disow_v conformist_n but_o once_o turn_v the_o table_n and_o the_o game_n run_v cross_a a_o man_n may_v acknowledge_v the_o presbyterian_a minister_n have_v a_o lawful_a ordination_n and_o never_o cross_v that_o principle_n though_o he_o total_o disow_v they_o there_o be_v also_o several_a gross_a inadvertency_n beside_o these_o that_o be_v common_a with_o his_o fellow_n in_o this_o way_n of_o argue_v which_o be_v peculiar_a to_o the_o author_n of_o that_o pasquil._n such_o as_o his_o cut_v the_o sinew_n and_o overturning_a the_o fundation_n of_o his_o argue_v in_o grant_v all_o to_o be_v true_a which_o nonconformist_n charge_v prelatist_n with_o id_fw-la est_fw-la that_o they_o be_v schismatic_n etc._n etc._n so_o in_o the_o second_o position_n yet_o hold_v that_o this_o position_n viz._n that_o ordinance_n be_v not_o pollute_v by_o their_o scandal_n will_v infer_v a_o conclusion_n of_o hear_v they_o hic_fw-la &_o nunc_fw-la whereas_o this_o very_a ground_n of_o schism_n be_v that_o upon_o which_o he_o main_o plead_v for_o disow_v presbyterian_a minister_n his_o confound_v in_o the_o matter_n of_o aerius_n his_o suppose_a censure_n by_o the_o ancient_a church_n our_o acknowledgement_n of_o the_o factum_fw-la and_o of_o the_o ius_n his_o deny_v in_o answer_n to_o the_o objection_n anent_o the_o covenant_n that_o any_o act_n under_o a_o general_n head_n of_o duty_n consider_v physical_o or_o material_o may_v become_v hic_fw-la &_o nunc_fw-la and_o in_o its_o present_a circumstance_n sinful_a exaccidente_fw-la yet_o walk_v all_o along_o upon_o this_o very_a ground_n in_o condemn_v the_o preach_n of_o presbyterian_a minister_n and_o people_n hear_v they_o in_o call_v in_o answer_n to_o another_o objection_n the_o prelatic_a party_n the_o church_n of_o scotland_n as_o now_o constitute_v yet_o in_o the_o premise_a concession_n acknowledge_v they_o schismatic_n from_o this_o church_n thus_o steal_v back_o a_o principle_n to_o make_v shift_n of_o answer_n which_o he_o have_v already_o give_v away_o to_o his_o adversary_n in_o this_o debate_n in_o grant_v to_o the_o presbyterian_o that_o this_o frame_n of_o prelacy_n be_v worse_a than_o the_o former_a and_o give_v more_o to_o the_o magistrate_n than_o god_n word_n allow_v yet_o call_v this_o establishment_n of_o it_o the_o prerogative_n of_o authority_n &_o the_o command_n of_o submission_n thereunto_o lawful_a command_n these_o &_o many_o such_o like_a absurdity_n be_v obvious_a to_o any_o that_o have_v read_v that_o chattered_a pasquil_n which_o may_v be_v make_v further_o convince_o appear_v if_o we_o can_v dilate_v upon_o it_o and_o present_v the_o pasquil_n itself_o but_o this_o little_a toutch_n may_v abundant_o discover_v its_o vanity_n and_o insufficiency_n in_o the_o present_a dispute_n and_o that_o the_o cause_n which_o our_o prelate_n puppet_n be_v plead_v for_o be_v so_o desperate_a and_o totter_a that_o it_o need_v many_o concession_n of_o its_o adversary_n and_o beg_a sup_n position_n to_o underprop_v it_o withal_o &_o yet_o sorotten_a be_v this_o fabric_n and_o bow_v wall_n that_o it_o must_v notwithstanding_o fall_v to_o the_o ground_n reader_n i_o shall_v detain_v thou_o no_o long_o from_o the_o persual_a of_o these_o sheet_n save_v only_o to_o tell_v thou_o that_o as_o the_o strengthen_n of_o the_o heart_n of_o the_o lord_n remnant_n in_o follow_v their_o duty_n and_o amid_o their_o present_a suffering_n be_v the_o intendment_n of_o this_o appearance_n so_o there_o be_v no_o patrociny_n intend_v nor_o can_v be_v draw_v by_o the_o most_o remote_a consequence_n from_o what_o be_v here_o plead_v upon_o the_o point_n of_o separation_n unto_o these_o dreadfullly_n presage_v anti-●…_a nisterial_a principle_n and_o practice_n tha●…_n several_a in_o this_o land_n be_v sad_o precipitate_v
judge_n in_o matter_n of_o faith_n and_o practice_n not_o custom_n and_o antiquity_n ibid._n the_o informer_n reason_v on_o this_o head_n reduce_v to_o a_o formal_a syllogism_n the_o major_a proposition_n the_o informer_n though_o oblige_v offer_v no_o proof_n of_o it_o be_v scannd_v and_o likeways_o the_o assumption_n and_o the_o unsoundnesse_n of_o both_o discover_v page_n 192_o 193_o 194_o 195_o 196._o the_o informer_n argument_n from_o the_o catalogue_n of_o bishop_n large_o scannd_v and_o the_o insufficicy_n thereof_o discover_v in_o the_o judgement_n of_o sound_a divine_n several_a thing_n do_v invalidat_n eusebius_n testimony_n page_n 197_o 198_o 199_o 200_o 201_o 202._o that_o the_o first_o pure_a church_n be_v govern_v by_o presbyter_n without_o bishop_n jeroms_n testimony_n in_o his_o commentary_n upon_o titus_n and_o the_o epistle_n to_o evagrius_n for_o the_o identity_n of_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n and_o a_o presbyterial_a government_n in_o the_o apostolic_a time_n large_o vindicate_v from_o the_o exception_n of_o this_o informer_n which_o be_v discover_v to_o offer_v violence_n to_o jeromes_n word_n to_o be_v inconsistentent_a with_o themselves_o and_o contrary_a to_o that_o sense_n of_o jeromes_n testimony_n which_o be_v exhibit_v by_o learned_a protestant_a divine_n yea_o some_o adversary_n themselves_o page_n 204_o 205_o 206_o 207_o 208_o 209_o 210_o 211_o 212_o 213_o 214_o 215_o 316_o 217_o 218_o 219_o 220_o 221_o 222_o chap._n 14_o misprint_v chap._n 13_o page_n 223._o the_o difference_n betwixt_o our_o present_a prelacy_n and_o the_o ancient_a episcopacy_n state_v and_o evince_v in_o many_o point_n such_o as_o 1_o the_o power_n of_o ordination_n and_o jurisdiction_n above_o presbyter_n clear_v in_o several_a particular_n and_o from_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o ancient_n and_o eminent_a protestant_a divine_n chrysostom_n testimony_n on_o 1_o tim._n i._n homely_a ii_o explaind_v 2._o that_o they_o be_v set_v up_o by_o the_o presbyter_n free_a choice_n and_o election_n prove_v from_o antiquity_n 3_o in_o referen●…_n to_o the_o people_n interest_n in_o their_o choice_n 4._o that_o they_o can_v not_o ordain_v alone_o 5._o that_o they_o do_v not_o invade_v presbyter_n decisive_a suffrage_n clear_v also_o from_o antiquity_n page_n 223_o 224_o 225_o 226_o 227_o 228_o 229_o 230_o 231._o 6._o in_o the_o point_n of_o their_o civil_a state-office_n which_o be_v prove_v to_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o canon_n call_v apostolic_a &_o other_o canon_n of_o ancient_a council_n 7._o that_o metropolitan_a primacy_n be_v a_o stranger_n to_o antiquity_n also_o clear_v 8._o so_o likeways_o erastian_n prelacy_n page_n 232_o 233_o 234._o 9_o our_o prelate_n exclusion_n of_o the_o roll_a elder_n from_o church_n indicatories_n cross_v antiquity_n 10._o their_o large_a and_o provincial_a inspection_n 11._o their_o lay_v aside_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o gospel_n render_v they_o monster_n to_o pure_a antiquity_n and_o expose_v they_o to_o the_o censure_n of_o ancient_a canon_n page_n 235_o 236_o 237_o 238_o 239_o 240_o 241_o 242._o 12._o in_o their_o fastuous_a pomp_n and_o sumptuous_a grandeur_n ibid._n chap._n 15_o misprint_v chap._n 14._o page_n 243_o the_o informer_n pretend_v testimony_n out_o of_o calvin_n beza_n blondell_n etc._n etc._n for_o episcopacy_n examine_v their_o anti-episcopall_a judgement_n clear_v from_o their_o ing_n particular_o calvine_v from_o his_o commentari●…_n upon_o the_o controvert_v scripture_n in_o this_o point_n several_a passage_n of_o his_o institution_n and_o commentary_n vindicate_v page_n 243_o 244_o 245_o 246_o 247_o 248_o 249_o 250_o 251._o as_o also_o of_o some_o epistle_n page_n 252_o 253_o 254._o as_o also_o of_o beza_n page_n 255_o 256_o 257_o 258_o 259_o 360._o the_o informer_n two_o absurdity_n which_o by_o way_n of_o 〈◊〉_d dilemma_n he_o offer_v unto_o we_o from_o our_o assertion_n of_o the_o unalterablenesse_n of_o presbyterian_a government_n and_o our_o concession_n of_o a_o pro●…stos_n early_o bring_v in_o scannd_a and_o retort_v upon_o himself_o page_n 260_o 261_o 262_o 263._o some_o passage_n of_o blondel_n vindicate_v and_o of_o chamier_n and_o moulin_n page_n 264_o 265_o 266_o 267_o 268._o misprint_v 236_o the_o author_n of_o jus_o divinum_fw-la ministerii_fw-la anglicani_fw-la vindicate_v at_o some_o length_n and_o in_o special_a from_o imputation_n of_o a_o contradiction_n impose_v upon_o they_o by_o the_o informer_n page_n 269_o 270_o 271_o 272_o 273_o 274_o misprint_v 237_o 238_o 262_o 263_o 264_o a_o passage_n of_o bucer_n vindicate_v ibid._n chap._n 16._o misprint_v 15._o page_n 275._o misprint_v 265._o several_a testimony_n of_o the_o father_n offer_v by_o mr_n durham_n in_o his_o commentary_n upon_o the_o revelation_n for_o evince_v the_o identity_n of_o angel_n bishop_n and_o presbyter_n vindicate_v from_o the_o exception_n of_o the_o informer_n his_o exception_n to_o mr_n durhame_v testimony_n of_o augustine_n examine_v as_o likeways_o to_o that_o of_o ambrose_n and_o chrysostome_n page_n 275_o 276_o 277_o 278_o 279_o 280_o 281_o misprint_v 265_o 266_o 267_o 268_o 269_o 270_o 271_o the_o informer_n inconsistence_n note_v page_n 281_o 282_o 283_o misprint_v 271_o 272_o 273._o chap._n 17._o misprint_v 16._o page_n 284._o misprint_v 274._o the_o harmonious_a consent_n of_o ancient_a father_n modern_a divine_n and_o confession_n of_o reform_a church_n for_o presbyterian_a government_n in_o its_o essential_a point_n of_o difference_n from_o prelacy_n exhibit_v 1._o that_o there_o be_v no_o diffence_n betwixt_o a_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n jure_fw-la divino_fw-la page_n 285_o 286_o 287_o misprint_v 275_o 276_o 277._o 2._o in_o their_o point_n of_o ordination_n &_o jurisdiction_n that_o these_o be_v not_o in_o the_o hand_n of_o a_o single_a prelate_n but_o that_o presbyter_n have_v essential_a joint-interest_n therein_o page_n 288_o 289_o 290_o misprint_v 278_o 279_o 280._o 3._o in_o point_n of_o the_o people_n interest_n in_o the_o election_n and_o call_v of_o minister_n page_n 290_o 291_o misprint_v 280_o 281_o 4._o in_o relation_n to_o the_o roll_a elder_n as_o appoint_v by_o christ._n page_n 292_o misprint_v 282_o 5._o as_o it_o stand_v in_o opposition_n to_o erastian_n principle_n and_o the_o present_a prelacy_n in_o that_o respect_n and_o maintain_v a_o spiritual_a authority_n in_o the_o hand_n of_o church_n officer_n distinct_a from_o &_o independent_a upon_o the_o civil_a power_n of_o the_o world_n ibid._n second_o part_n chap._n 1._o pag._n 2._o a_o twofold_a state_n of_o the_o question_n propose_v the_o one_o touch_v the_o abjuration_n of_o this_o prelacy_n in_o either_o or_o both_o covenant_n the_o other_o concern_v the_o obligation_n of_o these_o oath_n against_o it_o that_o prelacy_n be_v abjure_v in_o the_o national_a covenant_n prove_v from_o several_a clause_n of_o it_o page_z 3_o 4_o 5_o 6_o that_o it_o be_v also_o abjure_v in_o the_o solemn_a league_n and_o covenant_n prove_v from_o several_a passage_n thereof_o and_o the_o than_o state_n of_o our_o church_n page_z page_z 7_o 8_o 9_o 10._o the_o stand_a force_n of_o these_o oath_n upon_o the_o present_a and_o succeed_a generation_n prove_v 1._o from_o their_o nature_n and_o essenc_n page_z 11_o 12_o 13._o 2._o from_o the_o subject_n they_o affect_v 3._o their_o matter_n and_o object_n 4._o their_o end_n and_o scope_n and_o even_o as_o to_o presbyterian_a government_n page_z 13_o 14._o chap._n 2._o page_n 16_o the_o informer_n argument_n against_o abjuration_n of_o prelacy_n in_o the_o national_a covenant_n some_o reason_n of_o he_o against_o a_o oath_n in_o general_n or_o this_o oath_n obligation_n upon_o the_o posterity_n weigh_v page_n 16_o 17_o 18_o 19_o 20_o mr_n croftons_n testimony_n in_o his_o analepsis_n for_o the_o obligation_n of_o the_o covenant_n upon_o the_o posterity_n page_n 21_o 22._o the_o informer_n reason_n against_o the_o abjuration_n of_o prelacy_n in_o the_o national_a covenant_n examine_v the_o author_n of_o the_o apologetical_a relation_n vindicate_v together_o with_o the_o assembly_n 1638._o page_n 23_o 24_o 25_o 26_o 27_o 28_o 29_o 30_o 31_o 32_o 33_o 34_o 35_o 36_o 37_o 38_o 39_o 40_o 41._o chap._n 3._o page_n 42._o the_o abjuration_n of_o prelacy_n in_o the_o solemn_a league_n and_o covenant_n vindicat_fw-la from_o the_o exception_n of_o the_o informer_n the_o informer_n allege_v it_o be_v only_o the_o english_a prelacy_n that_o the_o covenant_n oblidge_n against_o how_o in_o pertinent_o clear_v page_n 43_o 44_o 45._o that_o timorcus_n afford_v no_o help_n to_o he_o in_o this_o answer_n clear_v ibid._n nor_o mr_n crofton_n which_o be_v also_o clear_v page_n 46_o 47_o 48_o 49_o 50._o from_o several_a passage_n of_o mr_n crofton_n in_o his_o analepsis_n the_o covenant_n exclude_v our_o prelacy_n and_o oblidge_n to_o presbyterian_a government_n in_o his_o principle_n prove_v ibid._n his_o objection_n anent_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o 2_o article_n offer_v by_o the_o parliament_n of_o england_n answer_v as_o also_o his_o exception_n to_o our_o argument_n take_v from_o
not_o to_o add_v new_a spiritual_a officer_n who_o must_v have_v a_o new_a work_n etc._n etc._n and_o the_o bishop_n authority_n must_v either_o be_v comprehend_v among_o the_o rule_n anent_o these_o officer_n enumerat_a and_o the_o exercise_n of_o their_o power_n or_o he_o be_v an●…_n apocryphal_a officer_n and_o unlawful_a or_o he_o must_v say_v we_o may_v add_v new_a officer_n and_o office_n and_o institution_n in_o point_n of_o government_n to_o these_o contain_v in_o scripture_n and_o so_o our_o divine_n argument_n against_o the_o pope_n from_o the_o scripture_n silence_n anent_o he_o in_o its_o enumeration_n of_o officer_n be_v naught_o 3._o christ_n exercise_v one_fw-mi external_a visible_a kingdom_n over_o his_o church_n visible_a and_o all_o church_n officer_n and_o their_o administration_n be_v in_o his_o name_n and_o authoritis_fw-la as_o be_v above_o clear_v every_o church_n officer_n mission_n and_o warrant_n must_v be_v find_v in_o his_o word_n other_o w●…yes_n he_o run_v unsent_a and_o can_v expect_v his_o blessing_n all_o that_o come_v be_v for_o he_o and_o anticipat_v his_o call_n be_v thief_n and_o robber_n 4._o all_o christ_n officer_n and_o their_o gift_n be_v christ_n royal_a and_o mediatorie_a donation_n to_o his_o church_n and_o by_o he_o peculiar_o set_v and_o authorize_v therein_o ephes._n 4._o 〈◊〉_d 7_o 8._o &c_n &c_n 1._o cor._n 12._o 28._o he_o as_o the_o great_a master_n of_o the_o house_n give_v all_o his_o steward_n their_o key_n their_o order_n now_o how_o christ_n the_o king_n and_o head_n of_o his_o church_n his_o donation_n his_o commission_n his_o give_v his_o key_n shall_v be_v instruct_v other_o way_n then_o by_o his_o clear_a warrant_n and_o institutiones_fw-la in_o his_o word_n and_o testament_n i_o will_v glad_o learn_v of_o this_o informer_n be_v there_o any_o officer_n of_o state_n any_o subordinat_a magistrate_n allow_v in_o a_o kingdom_n which_o have_v not_o the_o clear_a warrant_n of_o the_o law_n sure_o not_o and_o so_o the_o case_n be_v here_o final_o the_o ground_n and_o reason_n which_o he_o build_v this_o shift_a evasion_n upon_o viz._n that_o many_o thing_n be_v not_o otherways_o command_v then_o under_o some_o general_n as_o that_o all_o thing_n be_v do_v decent_o or_o to_o edification_n instance_v in_o the_o moderator_n and_o clerk_n of_o a_o meeting_n of_o minister_n be_v very_o poor_a for_o since_o the_o authority_n which_o god_n give_v paul_n be_v to_o edification_n &_o all_o ordinance_n which_o have_v the_o most_o clear_a institution_n must_v be_v thus_o qualify_v and_o to_o this_o end_n that_o which_o be_v not_o otherways_o command_v then_o under_o this_o general_a must_v needs_o be_v the_o alterable_a circumstance_n only_o commone_v to_o civil_a and_o sacred_a action_n and_o such_o as_o suppose_v the_o thing_n itself_o clothe_v with_o these_o circumstance_n to_o be_v that_o which_o be_v to_o be_v do_v and_o by_o consequence_n fall_v hactenus_fw-la under_o the_o compass_n of_o a_o command_n or_o institution_n for_o it_o be_v these_o only_a which_o be_v leave_v to_o the_o regulation_n of_o christian_a prudence_n according_a to_o the_o general_a rule_n of_o the_o word_n but_o as_o we_o have_v above_o clear_v such_o one_fw-mi eminent_a church_n officer_n as_o the_o bishop_n be_v suppose_v to_o be_v or_o any_o church_n officer_n can_v be_v no_o such_o circumstance_n but_o be_v such_o a_o substantial_a point_n of_o government_n as_o require_v a_o clear_a and_o positive_a warrant_n or_o else_o must_v be_v hold_v unlawful_a and_o this_o he_o must_v acknowledge_v or_o contradict_v himself_o for_o he_o dare_v not_o say_v but_o that_o church_n officer_n be_v other_o way_n command_v then_o under_o this_o general_a and_o himself_o allege_v the_o prelate_n divine_a institution_n &_o so_o he_o can_v be_v none_o of_o these_o thing_n which_o have_v only_o this_o general_a warrant_n beside_o i_o will_v know_v if_o he_o will_v say_v that_o this_o officer_n the_o prelate_n must_v be_v set_v up_o and_o act_n with_o decency_n and_o order_n sure_o he_o will_v not_o deny_v this_o if_o then_o the_o prelate_n himself_o be_v but_o a_o piece_n of_o decentie_n and_o order_n as_o be_v only_o command_v under_o that_o notion_n and_o a_o species_n under_o that_o general_a than_o he_o say_v that_o order_n and_o decency_n must_v be_v manage_v &_o clothe_v with_o order_n and_o decency_n which_o will_v be_v very_o hard_a to_o reconceale_v to_o sense_n or_o he_o must_v say_v that_o the_o prelate_n must_v act_v with_o disorder_n and_o confusion_n or_o to_o evit_fw-la these_o rock_n that_o the_o prelate_n must_v be_v warrant_v under_o another_o notion_n then_o that_o of_o a_o circumstance_n of_o mere_a order_n and_o so_o must_v have_v a_o particular_a warrant_n his_o instance_n of_o the_o moderator_n and_o clerk_n be_v very_o foolish_a the_o clerk_n not_o be_v necessary_o a_o church_n officer_n and_o the_o moderator_n no_o distinct_a church_n officer_n from_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o member_n and_o so_o be_v utter_o impertinent_a to_o this_o point_n and_o question_n anent_o a_o church_n officer_n distinct_a from_o and_o superior_a to_o a_o presbyter_n whither_o he_o ought_v to_o have_v a_o particular_a scripture_n warrant_v beside_o that_o the_o same_o divine_a warrant_n that_o a_o judicial_a procedor_fw-la by_o disquisition_n vote_n and_o suffrage_n have_v and_o be_v exemplify_v in_o that_o synod_n act._n 15._o this_o be_v the_o necessary_a frame_n of_o judicatories_n as_o such_o and_o consequent_o of_o all_o church_n judicatory_n the_o moderator_n have_v the_o same_o foundation_n of_o his_o office_n but_o he_o will_v never_o let_v we_o see_v a_o shadow_n of_o this_o for_o the_o prelate_n now_o to_o show_v what_o good_a harmony_n this_o informer_n keep_v in_o this_o point_n with_o some_o chieff_a man_n of_o his_o way_n &_o other_o also_o let_v we_o hear_v what_o they_o hold_v institutum_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la de_fw-la regimine_fw-la ecclesiastico_fw-la &_o ea_fw-la gubernationis_fw-la ratio_fw-la quae_fw-la aetate_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la fuit_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o apostle_n appointment_n as_o to_o church_n government_n and_o that_o way_n and_o method_n of_o government_n which_o be_v in_o their_o time_n be_v perpetual_a and_o can_v no_o more_o be_v change_v then_o the_o priesthood_n of_o aaron_n can_v say_v saravia_n con_v troth_n bezam_n whitaker_n controv_fw-mi 4._o quest_n 1._o cap._n 9_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o church_n must_v not_o be_v governed-ut_a humano_fw-la ingenio_fw-la arriserit_fw-la as_o please_v man_n fancy_n sed_fw-la ut_fw-la christo_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la domino_fw-la so_o lique_fw-la principi_fw-la placet_fw-la but_o as_o it_o please_v christ_n her_o only_a head_n and_o lord_n hence_o he_o conclude_v that_o the_o form_n which_o he_o have_v institut_n must_v be_v hold_v fast_o as_o the_o best_a matth._n sutliv_n de_fw-fr pontif_n roman_n lib._n 1_o cap._n 1._o answer_v beauty_n argument_n from_o civil_a to_o ecclesiastic_a monarchy_n tell_v he_o that-sicut_a unus_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la summus_fw-la princeps_fw-la &c_n &c_n as_o thereis_n one_o chieff_a prince_n of_o the_o church_n so_o there_o be_v one_o true_a essential_a form_n thereof_o differ_v from_o the_o various_a mould_n of_o commone_v wealth_n &_o that_o as_o she_o have_v but_o one_o head_n so_o but_o one_o frame_n of_o policy_n which_o those_o who_o resyle_n from_o christi_fw-la leges_fw-la transgrediuntur-they_a transgress_v the_o law_n of_o christ_n and_o blott_n her_o true_a government_n field_n of_o the_o church_n lib_n 5._o cap._n 45._o argue_v thus_o against_o the_o pope_n temporal_a power_n that_o among_o man_n none_o have_v power_n of_o chainge_v any_o thing_n but_o he_o alone_o to_o who_o in_o a_o eminent_a degree_n it_o belong_v and_o from_o who_o it_o be_v original_o derive_v but_o to_o govern_v the_o church_n as_o such_o be_v not_o eminent_o in_o the_o magistrate_n it_o be_v a_o bad_a omen_n cespitare_fw-la in_o limine_fw-la our_o informer_n we_o see_v in_o his_o first_o answer_n to_o his_o doupter_n be_v so_o anhappie_a as_o therein_o to_o justle_v with_o soom_n chieff_a champion_n of_o his_o cause_n chap._n ix_o the_o informer_n undertake_v to_o answer_v the_o argument_n of_o presbyterian_o against_o episcopacy_n his_o answer_n to_o our_o argument_n from_o matth._n 20_o 25_o 26._o and_o petr._n 5_o 3._o examine_v at_o large_a the_o genuine_a strength_n and_o nerve_n of_o our_o reason_n upon_o these_o text_n which_o he_o dare_v not_o meddle_v with_o his_o answer_n find_v inconsistent_a with_o themselves_o the_o same_o with_o papist_n answer_n for_o the_o papacy_n and_o contrare_fw-la to_o the_o sense_n of_o sound_a divine_n the_o doubter_n in_o the_o nixt_a place_n alleage_n prelacy_n to_o the_o forbid_a and_o therefore_o unlawful_a bring_v for_o proof_n matth._n 20_o 25_o 26_o 27_o 28._o and_o the_o argument_n from_o this_o text_n he_o make_v his_o poor_a doubter_n slender_o and_o curtly_a to_o represent_v thus_o that_o christ_n forbid_v any_o of_o his_o
govern_v they_o by_o ecclesiastic_a discipline_n which_o he_o make_v to_o be_v the_o bishop_n office_n 2._o their_o sole_a power_n in_o ordination_n and_o government_n here_o suppose_v by_o he_o do_v certain_o presuppose_v the_o christian_a church_n in_o fieri_fw-la whereof_o they_o be_v to_o be_v founder_n first_o they_o be_v as_o christ_n immediate_a extraordinary_a ambassador_n to_o convert_v and_o bring_v in_o church_n then_o to_o plant_v officer_n &_o the_o gospel_n government_n in_o they_o now_o who_o will_v say_v but_o this_o power_n be_v necessary_a for_o the_o first_o plant_n of_o the_o church_n and_o so_o come_v under_o the_o character_n of_o these_o thing_n which_o this_o man_n acknowledge_v to_o be_v expire_v sure_o where_o no_o other_o officer_n be_v to_o concur_v the_o apostle_n of_o necessity_n behoove_v to_o ordain_v sole_o and_o their_o apostolic_a inspection_n over_o they_o do_v necessary_o depend_v upon_o and_o flow_v from_o their_o apostolic_a extraordinary_a mission_n and_o infalibilitie_n so_o that_o this_o power_n in_o so_o fare_v as_o episcopal_a like_o be_v indispensible_o needful_a for_o the_o first_o sound_n of_o the_o church_n and_o consequent_o must_v be_v expire_v by_o his_o own_o confession_n the_o nature_n and_o exercise_n of_o this_o power_n suppose_v and_o require_v their_o peculiar_a mission_n infallibility_n and_o gift_n of_o tongue_n which_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o this_o man_n to_o be_v expire_v privilege_n necessary_a ry_z only_o at_o that_o time_n moreover_o the_o apostle_n power_n in_o ordination_n and_o government_n do_v include_v extraordinary_a miraculous_a road_n and_o censure_n &_o a_o power_n in_o coerce_a the_o rebellious_a thus_o peter_n stroke_n ananias_n and_o sapphira_n dead_a for_o their_o lie_v which_o be_v a_o fearful_a apostolic_a censure_n put_v forth_o by_o his_o apostolic_a authority_n at_o that_o time_n paul_n stroke_n elimas_n the_o sorcerer_n blind_a for_o withstand_v the_o truth_n beside_o their_o power_n in_o ordination_n at_o that_o time_n include_v their_o miraculous_a confer_v of_o the_o spirit_n by_o the_o imposition_n of_o hand_n 2_o tim._n 1_o 6_o act._n 19_o 1_o 2_o 6._o now_o all_o these_o apostolic_a privilege_n which_o this_o man_n must_v needs_o acknowledge_v upon_o his_o own_o ground_n to_o be_v expire_v and_o extraordinary_a be_v necessary_o include_v in_o &_o essential_a unto_o the_o apostolic_a power_n the_o nature_n and_o exercise_n thereof_o must_v be_v expire_v also_o we_o shall_v offer_v here_o to_o the_o informer_n a_o distinction_n of_o the_o learned_a junius_n who_o in_o his_o answer_n to_o beauties_n argument_n for_o the_o apostle_n episcopal_a singular_a power_n from_o that_o word_n shall_v i_o come_v to_o you_o with_o a_o rod_n distinguish_v the_o ordinary_a and_o extraordinary_a rod_n secundum_fw-la illam_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o council_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 16._o that_o be_v according_a to_o the_o commone_v ordinary_a road_n peter_n be_v a_o fellow_n presbyter_n 1_o pet._n 5._o but_o according_a to_o the_o singular_a and_o extraordinary_a he_o strike_v dead_a ananias_n and_o sapphira_n in_o respect_n of_o this_o commonrode_a say_v he_o paul_n say_v 1_o cor_n 5._o you_o be_v gather_v together_o with_o my_o spirit_n in_o the_o name_n of_o our_o lord_n jesus_n but_o as_o to_o this_o singular_a one_o he_o say_v shall_v i_o come_v to_o you_o with_o arode_o 1_o cor_fw-la 4_o 21_o this_o common_a road_n he_o deny_v to_o have_v he_o in_o the_o hand_n of_o any_o one_o man_n whither_o apostle_n or_o other_o or_o that_o they_o have_v any_o sole_a or_o singular_a pre-eminence_n in_o church_n constitute_v and_o this_o cut_v the_o wind_n pipe_n of_o our_o informer_n topic_a and_o argument_n here_o for_o the_o prelate_n power_n which_o lead_v to_o a_o 3d._a answer_n 3_o we_o prove_v already_o that_o the_o apostle_n exercise_v no_o singular_a episcopal_a pre-eminence_n in_o church_n constitut_v and_o what_o they_o do_v in_o church_n not_o as_o yet_o constitut_v and_o infieri_fw-la be_v not_o to_o the_o purpose_n by_o his_o own_o confession_n since_o it_o fall_v in_o among_o those_o thing_n necessary_a for_o the_o first_o plant_n of_o the_o church_n which_o privilege_n the_o acknowledge_v be_v go_v that_o the_o apostle_n exercise_v no_o such_o single_a pre-eminence_n in_o church_n constitut_v be_v abundant_o clear_v in_o the_o 2._o argument_n against_o episcopacy_n where_o we_o show_v that_o neither_o in_o ordination_n nor_o excommunication_n nor_o in_o ministerial_a decision_n of_o controversy_n the_o apostle_n assume_v one_fw-mi episcopal_a power_n in_o church_n constitut_v but_o have_v the_o ordinary_a church-officer_n presbyteria_o concur_v with_o they_o we_o likwaye_v prove_v in_o the_o 8._o argument_n that_o the_o episcopal_a power_n be_v neither_o formaliter_fw-la nor_o eminenter_fw-la contain_v in_o the_o apostle_n authority_n but_o be_v inconsistent_a there_o with_o and_o contrary_a thereunto_o there_o sole_a directive_n corrective_a power_n over_o the_o diocese_n as_o be_v the_o proper_a sole_a pastoure_n thereof_o their_o sole_a decisive_a suffrage_n and_o lordly_a dominion_n over_o church-judicatories_a beside_o their_o civil_a rule_n like_o that_o of_o the_o prince_n of_o the_o gentile_n render_v our_o prelate_n power_n ex_fw-la sua_fw-la natura_fw-la &_o in_o universum_fw-la different_a from_o the_o very_a nature_n of_o the_o apostle_n authority_n and_o the_o authority_n of_o a_o gospel_n ministry_n altogether_o and_o consequent_o it_o can_v not_o be_v transmit_v by_o the_o apostle_n to_o the_o church_n as_o any_o piece_n of_o the_o gospel_n church_n government_n and_o by_o further_a consequence_n they_o be_v none_o of_o the_o father_n or_o child_n who_o the_o true_a church_n or_o the_o apostle_n bring_v forth_o but_o the_o spritus_fw-la brood_n of_o satanical_a antichristian_a pride_n as_o for_o what_o he_o add_v of_o the_o father_n make_v bishop_n successor_n to_o the_o apostle_n junius_n will_v tell_v he_o de_n cler_n cap_n 14._o not._n 15._o that_o this_o be_v not_o to_o be_v understand_v of_o a_o succession_n from_o christ_n institutionquia_fw-la nunquam_fw-la instituit_fw-la christus_fw-la ut_fw-la apostolis_n secundum_fw-la gradum_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la succederetur_fw-la because_o christ_n never_o appoint_v successor_n to_o the_o apostle_n in_o the_o church_n according_a to_o degree_n and_o that_o the_o father_n understand_v it_o of_o a_o succession_n ex_fw-la simili_fw-la non_fw-la ex_fw-la pari_fw-la a_o succession_n of_o similitude_n not_o of_o parity_n and_o of_o a_o similitude_n secundum_fw-la quid_fw-la or_o imaginary_a according_a as_o prelate_n be_v then_o mould_v chap._n x._o the_o informer_n great_a argument_n for_o prelacy_n from_o the_o pretend_a episcopacy_n of_o timothy_n and_o titus_n their_o episcopal_a office_n disprove_v from_o the_o office_n of_o evangelist_n ascribe_v express_o to_o the_o one_o and_o by_o good_a consequence_n to_o the_o other_o from_o many_o circumstance_n of_o the_o sacred_a text_n and_o the_o judgement_n of_o interpreter_n the_o informer_n plead_n from_o there_o power_n in_o ordination_n and_o jurisdiction_n suppose_v in_o the_o precept_n address_v to_o they_o there_o anent_o from_o the_o necessity_n of_o this_o power_n the_o concernment_n of_o of_o after-age_n therein_o &c_n &c_n examine_v the_o unsoundenes_n and_o inconsistency_n of_o his_o argue_v and_o answer_n upon_o this_o head_n several_a way_n discover_v the_o informer_n present_v unto_o we_o nixt_v the_o pretend_a episcopacy_n of_o tymothy_n and_o titus_n at_o ephesus_z and_o creete_z and_o the_o douhter_n allege_v that_o paul_n call_v all_o the_o miniter_n at_o ephesus_z and_o creete_z bishop_n he_n rejoyne_v that_o tymoth_n and_o titus_n be_v bishop_n as_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o bishop_n be_v afterward_o take_v that_o be_v have_v a_o power_n in_o ordination_n and_o jurisdiction_n over_o and_o above_o inferior_a minister_n this_o argument_n from_o the_o pretend_a episcopacy_n of_o timothy_n and_o titus_n as_o also_o the_o nixt_a take_v from_o the_o suppose_a episcopal_a power_n of_o the_o seven_o asian_a angel_n have_v be_v so_o full_o answer_v and_o baffle_v by_o many_o that_o it_o be_v a_o wonder_n how_o he_o have_v the_o confidence_n to_o repone_v to_o we_o these_o oft_o sodden_a colewort_n we_o give_v already_o a_o hint_n in_o the_o st_n a●…gument_n of_o the_o acknowledge_v extraordinary_a function_n of_o tymothy_n and_o titus_n which_o be_v abundant_o clear_v by_o many_o from_o their_o unfixed_a motion_n and_o officiate_a their_o occasional_a transient_a employment_n in_o these_o place_n paul_n actual_a revocation_n of_o they_o both_o there_o from_o the_o condition_n of_o these_o church_n as_o be_v but_o in_o fieri_fw-la as_o to_o their_o organic_n settlement_n and_o constitution_n particular_o that_o their_o power_n in_o ordination_n and_o jurisdiction_n be_v not_o episcopal_a i_o prove_v from_o these_o ground_n 1._o in_o church_n already_o constitut_o this_o authority_n be_v not_o sole_o resident_a in_o tymothy_n and_o titus_n falluntur_fw-la qui_fw-la putant_fw-la say_v calvin_n instit_n lib_n
by_o the_o ancient_n but_o if_o he_o have_v offer_v we_o testimony_n speak_v of_o sole_a power_n of_o these_o bishop_n in_o ordination_n and_o jurisdiction_n leave_v nothing_o to_o presbyter_n but_o the_o key_n of_o doctrine_n of_o bishop_n with_o a_o negative_a voice_n in_o judicatories_n have_v sole_a dominion_n over_o a_o diocese_n the_o only_a proper_a pastoure_n thereof_o and_o prelate_n of_o erastus_n his_o cutt_n then_o i_o shall_v confess_v there_o be_v early_o such_o bishop_n as_o he_o plead_v for_o and_o we_o shall_v acknowledge_v their_o power_n to_o be_v a_o commentary_n upon_o the_o scripture_n he_o plead_v from_o but_o with_o this_o proviso_n that_o he_o can_v quiparat_fw-la they_o with_o their_o first_o progenitour_n and_o show_v we_o these_o privilege_n in_o the_o scripture-escutciones_a of_o their_o founder_n but_o till_o then_o i_o think_v our_o conviction_n must_v be_v suspend_v that_o presbyter_n have_v the_o key_n of_o doctrine_n he_o will_v not_o deny_v that_o they_o have_v the_o power_n of_o ordination_n and_o jurisdiction_n and_o that_o key_n likeway_v entrust_v to_o they_o have_v be_v prove_v from_o scripture_n 1._o tim._n 4._o 14._o luk._n 22._o 66._o act._n 20_o 28._o 1._o pet._n 5_o 2_o 1._o cor_fw-la 5._o 5._o now_o let_v he_o say_v do_v these_o first_o succeed_a bishop_n in_o their_o suppose_a diocese_n always_o take_v this_o power_n in_o ordination_n and_o jurisdiction_n from_o the_o first_o scripture_n bishop_n and_o stand_v invest_v therewith_o in_o after_o time_n how_o then_o come_v jerom_n to_o say_v that_o even_n in_o his_o time_n elder_n be_v subject_a to_o the_o bishop_n only_o by_o custom_n not_o by_o dispensation_n from_o the_o lord_n in_o his_o comment_n on_o tit_n and_o on_o isa._n 3_o that_o they_o have_v even_o in_o his_o time_n a_o caetus_fw-la presbiterorum_fw-la a_o meeting_n or_o court_n of_o presbyter_n and_o one_fw-mi apostolic_a senate_n how_o come_v a_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o presbytery_n to_o be_v mention_v councancyr_n can._n 18._o how_o come_v ambrose_n a_o father_n of_o the_o church_n upon_o ephes._n 4._o to_o assert_v that_o after_o the_o church_n be_v enlarge_v cepit_fw-la alio_fw-la ordine_fw-la gubernari_fw-la it_o begin_v to_o be_v govern_v after_o another_o manner_n then_o at_o first_o and_o that_o non_fw-la per_fw-la omne_fw-la conveniunt_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o the_o government_n then_o in_o the_o church_n be_v not_o every_o way_n suitable_a to_o the_o apostle_n appointment_n i_o think_v these_o assertion_n may_v convince_v the_o informer_n of_o the_o folly_n of_o this_o argument_n but_o 2._o what_o if_o some_o of_o these_o first_o successor_n be_v find_v but_o mere_a constant_a moderator_n what_o be_v then_o become_v of_o his_o series_n of_o a_o succession_n of_o diocesian_a bishop_n from_o timothy_n and_o titus_n and_o the_o asian_a angel_n say_v not_o jerom_n ad_fw-la evagrium_fw-la alexandria_n presbyteri_fw-la unum_fw-la ex_fw-la se_fw-la electum_fw-la in_o excelsiori_fw-la gradu_fw-la collocatum_fw-la episcopum_fw-la nominabant_fw-la &c_n &c_n that_o the_o bishop_n at_o alexandria_n be_v only_o a_o presbyter_n choose_v to_o preside_v etc._n etc._n ambrose_n say_v that_o this_o distinction_n betaixt_v bishop_n and_o presbyter_n come_v in_o by_o couns●…l_n cubi_n prius_fw-la therefore_o he_o hold_v it_o be_v not_o derive_v from_o divine_a 〈◊〉_d and_o therein_o give_v the_o lie_n to_o our_o informer_n for_o that_o he_o say_v be_v different_a from_o their_o present_a custom_n augustin_n epist_n 10._o say_v with_o jerom_n that_o by_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n episcopatus_fw-la be_v major_a presbyterio_fw-la the_o episcopacy_n be_v great_a than_o the_o presbyterat_a how_o come_v ●…irmilianus_fw-la apud_fw-la cypr._n ep_n 78._o to_o assert_v that_o the_o presbyter_n possident_fw-la ordinandi_fw-la potestatem_fw-la possese_n the_o power_n of_o ordination_n and_o these_o presbyter_n he_o call_v praepositi_fw-la the_o precedent_n or_o ruler_n jerom_n say_v quid_fw-la facit_fw-la excepta_fw-la ordinatione_fw-la episcopus_fw-la quod_fw-la nonfacit_fw-la presbyter_n what_o do_v the_o bishop_n except_o ordination_n which_o the_o presbyter_n do_v not_o yet_o even_o in_o this_o presbyter_n than_o concur_v with_o they_o and_o share_v in_o that_o power_n say_v not_o chriso_v upon_o 1._o tim_n inter_fw-la episcopum_fw-la et_fw-la presbyterum_fw-la interest_n ferme_fw-fr nihil-between_a the_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n there_o be_v almost_o no_o difference_n as_o for_o his_o line_n of_o succession_n they_o will_v say_v nothing_o until_o he_o prove_v these_o bishop_n to_o be_v episcopos_fw-la principes_fw-la prince-or_a lord_n bishop_n and_o nor_o episcopos_fw-la preside_v or_o moderator_n bishop_n which_o will_v be_v a_o hard_a task_n since_o he_o must_v answer_v blondel_n who_o large_o prove_v that_o before_o the_o year_n 140_o there_o be_v not_o a_o bishop_n over_o presbyter_n even_o the_o constant_a precedent_n far_o from_o the_o power_n of_o the_o present_a dioces●…an_n policarp_n himself_o his_o suppose_a bishop_n of_o smyrna_n make_v but_o two_o order_n of_o ministry_n bishop_n and_o 〈◊〉_d in_o his_o epistle_n to_o the_o philippian_n dr._n reynolds_n in_o his_o conference_n with_o hart_n prove_v that_o the_o first_o bishop_n who_o come_v in_o after_o the_o apostle_n be_v nothing_o but_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d moderator_n of_o the_o presbytery_n in_o a_o word_n as_o many_o learned_a man_n do_v prove_v the_o discrepancy_n of_o the_o ancient_n among_o themselves_o and_o their_o variety_n of_o name_n and_o speech_n in_o relation_n to_o these_o first_o suppose_v bishop_n and_o that_o several_a authores_fw-la be_v spurius_n and_o counterfeit_v who_o be_v bring_v in_o to_o give_v testimony_n in_o this_o point_n so_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o this_o man_n and_o his_o fellow_n in_o plead_v thus_o for_o timothy_n episcopacy_n do_v put_v the_o blot_n of_o dread_a full_a apostasy_n upon_o he_o in_o make_v he_o fall_v as_o the_o angel_n of_o ephesus_n be_v charge_v from_o his_o first_o love_n so_o that_o if_o they_o will_v not_o run_v on_o this_o inconvenience_n and_o stage_n this_o eminent_a saint_n for_o such_o one_fw-mi apostate_n contrary_a to_o the_o scripture_n account_n of_o he_o they_o must_v whole_o quit_v this_o plea._n as_o for_o what_o he_o add_v of_o several_n writer_n acknowledge_v the_o angel_n a_o single_a person_n we_o have_v show_v how_o vain_a a_o reason_n this_o be_v to_o prove_v his_o point_n but_o the_o doubter_n object_n to_o some_o purpose_n that_o beza_n and_o other_o may_v take_v the_o angel_n to_o be_v but_o moderator_n to_o this_o he_o answer_v thou_o the_o angel_n must_v needs_o be_v a_o bishop_n because_o he_o be_v chief_o commend_v or_o discomend_v as_o have_v a_o chief_n hand_n in_o what_o be_v right_a or_o amiss_o in_o these_o church_n that_o the_o power_n find_v in_o timothy_n and_o titus_n prove_v it_o be_v so_o with_o these_o angel_n that_o beza_n say_v these_o angel_n power_n be_v more_o eminent_a than_o the_o rest_n of_o their_o fellow_n ans._n 1._o as_o for_o beza_n its_o true_a he_o expones_fw-la the_o angel_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o the_o precedent_n but_o add_v sed_fw-la hinc_fw-la statui_fw-la episcopalis_fw-la ille_fw-la gradus_fw-la &c_n &c_n that_o be_v but_o that_o episcopal_a degree_n which_o be_v after_o ward_n by_o human_a invention_n bring_v into_o the_o church_n of_o god_n nether_a certain_o can_v nor_o aught_o to_o be_v hence_o conclude_v nay_o not_o so_o much_o as_o the_o office_n of_o a_o perpetual_a precedent_n shall_v be_v of_o necessity_n as_o the_o thence_o arise_v oligarchical_a tyranny_n let_v our_o informer_n mark_v this_o who_o head_n be_v the_o antichristian_a beast_n now_o at_o length_n with_o the_o most_o certan_a ruin_n not_o of_o the_o church_n only_o but_o of_o the_o world_n also_o make_v manifest_a and_o this_o also_o be_v all_o which_o dr._n reynolds_n acknowledge_v now_o i_o think_v he_o will_v find_v no_o advantage_n nor_o credit_n here_o to_o his_o diocesian_a bishop_n since_o beza_n make_v he_o but_o a_o human_a invention_n yea_o and_o the_o poisonous_a egg_n out_o of_o which_o antichrist_n be_v hatch_v 2_o as_o for_o his_o reason_n that_o this_o angel_n be_v chief_o reprove_v or_o commend_v as_o have_v the_o chief_a hand_n in_o what_o be_v right_a or_o amiss_o he_o must_v prove_v before_o this_o reason_n will_v pass_v current_n that_o one_o single_a person_n be_v chief_o reprove_v or_o commend_v and_o likeways_o that_o his_o have_v the_o commendation_n or_o reproof_n address_v to_o he_o will_v evince_v a_o chief_a authority_n or_o chief_a hand_n as_o he_o call_v it_o in_o government_n we_o tell_v he_o that_o in_o beza_n and_o dr._n reynolds_n judgement_n the_o angel_n be_v only_a the_o prese_n mor●…derator_n receive_v the_o epistle_n or_o address_n now_o will_v one_fw-mi epistle_n contain_v commendation_n or_o reproof_n of_o a_o synod_n and_o address_v to_o the_o moderator_n make_v he_o chief_a as_o to_o what_o be_v commend_v or_o tax_v in_o
such_o a_o precedent_n or_o primate_n as_o diotrephe_n affect_v to_o be_v distinct_a from_o the_o divine_o appoint_a bishop_n and_o therefore_o whatever_o he_o may_v suppose_v to_o be_v creep_v in_o at_o that_o time_n he_o must_v needs_o upon_o this_o ground_n interpret_v it_o to_o be_v a_o recess_n from_o the_o divine_a appointment_n and_o in_o so_o far_o a_o corruption_n as_o for_o what_o our_o informer_n repeat_v here_o again_o ad_fw-la nauseam_fw-la that_o bishop_n be_v immediate_o the_o church_n before_o all_o the_o apostle_n be_v go_v and_o immediate_o after_o which_o be_v a_o commentary_n upon_o timothy_n and_o titus_n and_o the_o asian_a angel_n and_o diotrephes_n i_o answer_v i_o believe_v indeed_o as_o to_o his_o last_o instance_n that_o there_o be_v diotrephesy_n early_o enugh_o and_o beza_n episcopus_fw-la humanus_fw-la or_o fix_v precedent_n but_o that_o there_o be_v either_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n or_o one_fw-mi hundred_o year_n and_o more_o afterward_o i_o speak_v far_o within_o compass_n his_o diocesian_a prelate_n with_o sole_a power_n of_o ordination_n and_o jurisdiction_n in_o a_o diocese_n he_o will_v assoon_o join_v the_o pole_n together_o as_o prove_v it_o by_o any_o faithful_a and_o authentic_a testimony_n chap._n xii_o the_o informer_n appeal_v to_o antiquity_n in_o the_o point_n of_o episcopacy_n that_o antiquity_n be_v at_o most_o testis_fw-la facti_fw-la but_o not_o judex_fw-la very_fw-la may_v witness_v matter_n of_o fact_n but_o be_v no_o judge_n of_o what_o be_v right_a therein_o prove_v from_o the_o testimony_n of_o scripture_n and_o the_o father_n the_o informer_n reason_v on_o this_o head_n reduce_v to_o a_o formal_a syllogism_n and_o discuss_v that_o in_o the_o first_o pure_a age_n the_o church_n be_v govern_v by_o presbyter_n withtout_a bishope_n prove_v by_o testimony_n of_o the_o father_n particular_o of_o jerome_n his_o testimony_n at_o large_a vindicate_v from_o the_o exceptiones_fw-la of_o the_o informer_n our_o informer_n have_v by_o this_o time_n get_v out_o of_o the_o strait_n of_o his_o scripture_n argument_n for_o prelacy_n and_o his_o pretend_a reply_n to_o scripture_n argument_n against_o they_o wherein_o we_o have_v see_v how_o pitiful_o he_o lie_v be_v bruillied_a in_o his_o endeavour_n to_o put_v the_o fairding_n of_o some_o scripture_n character_n upon_o this_o monster_n the_o diocesian_a prelate_n now_o he_o will_v launch_v out_o in_o to_o the_o vast_a ocean_n of_o antiquity_n wherein_o he_o suppose_v and_o not_o altogother_n amiss_o that_o this_o leviathan_n can_v swim_v much_o better_a and_o therefore_o he_o fill_v up_o the_o three_o part_n of_o the_o pamplet_n with_o a_o tedious_a legend_n of_o human_a testimony_n in_o relation_n to_o bishop_n but_o in_o this_o his_o argue_n from_o antiquity_n he_o play_v the_o same_o petty_a sophister_n as_o in_o his_o pretend_a scripture_n proof_n for_o he_o be_v still_o plead_v for_o a_o versatil_a chimaera_n of_o his_o own_o brain_n and_o dare_v not_o state_n the_o question_n as_o to_o the_o prelate_n now_o existent_a in_o his_o diocesian_n and_o erastian_a mould_n like_v to_o who_o if_o he_o will_v show_v i_o but_o one_o prelate_n among_o all_o his_o ragged_a testimony_n i_o will_v yield_v the_o cause_n to_o he_o so_o that_o we_o be_v not_o concen_v in_o his_o testimony_n they_o be_v all_o mute_a or_o ambiguous_a as_o to_o our_o debate_n we_o shall_v therefore_o proceed_v to_o consider_v the_o substantial_o of_o his_o argument_n on_o this_o head_n and_o add_v some_o chapter_n which_o will_v be_v find_v abundant_o to_o cut_v the_o sinne●…es_n of_o his_o reason_n from_o pretend_a testimony_n of_o the_o father_n and_o vindicat_fw-la our_o cause_n even_o in_o point_n of_o antiquity_n 〈◊〉_d i_o suppose_v this_o man_n if_o he_o will_v not_o renounce_v his_o protestant_n profession_n can_v but_o grant_v that_o it_o be_v not_o antiquity_n as_o he_o call_v it_o or_o human_a testimony_n but_o the_o scripture_n of_o truth_n which_o most_o judge_n in_o this_o debate_n so_o that_o i_o hop_v i_o may_v suppose_v that_o he_o look_v upon_o his_o antiquitity_n as_o one_fw-mi accessory_a appendix_n only_o to_o his_o scripture_n argument_n and_o that_o the_o scripture_n be_v not_o for_o he_o but_o against_o he_o i_o hope_v it_o be_v convince_o apparent_a from_o that_o be_v say_v above_o we_o must_v to_o the_o law_n and_o the_o testimony_n in_o this_o and_o all_o other_o point_n of_o faith_n antiquity_n without_o the_o first_o scripture_n antiquity_n deserve_v not_o the_o name_n id_fw-la adulterum_fw-la quod_fw-la posterius_fw-la id_fw-la verum_fw-la quod_fw-la pri_fw-la nium_fw-la say_v tertullian_n that_o be_v adulterate_a which_o be_v last_o and_o trere_fw-la which_o be_v first_o i_o be_o the_o way_n the_o truth_n and_o the_o life_n say_v christ_n but_o not_o i_o be_o custom_n and_o cyprian_n tell_v we_o that_o consuetudo_fw-la sin_n veritate_fw-la est_fw-la vetusias_fw-la erroris_fw-la antiquity_n without_o truth_n be_v but_o a_o mouldy_a error_n our_o lord_n himself_o reject_v this_o argument_n it_o be_v say_v of_o old_a and_o appose_n unto_o it_o yet_o i_o say_v well_n may_v we_o then_o oppose_v the_o scripture_n say_n to_o our_o informer_n it_o be_v say_v of_o old_a and_o by_o our_o lord_n warrant_v reject_v his_o pretence_n from_o antiquity_n to_o warrant_v any_o thing_n which_o the_o word_n condemn_v and_o for_o this_o we_o have_v good_a warrant_n of_o antiquity_n itself_o for_o the_o father_n universal_o do_v hold_v that_o only_o the_o scripture_n must_v judge_v in_o point_n of_o faith_n sunt_fw-la libri_fw-la dominici_n quorum_fw-la authoritati_fw-la utrique_fw-la consentimus_fw-la utrique_fw-la credimus_fw-la there_o be_v in_o they_o all_o thing_n to_o be_v believe_v and_o practise_v utrique_fw-la servimus_fw-la ibi_fw-la quaeramus_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la ibi_fw-la discutiamus_fw-la causam_fw-la nostram_fw-la be_v great_a augustins_n advice_n the_o book_n of_o the_o lord_n be_v they_o to_o who_o authority_n we_o both_o consent_n which_o we_o both_o believe_v to_o which_o we_o both_o submit_v there_o let_v we_o seek_v the_o church_n there_o let_v we_o discuss_v our_o cause_n jerom_n on_o chap._n 23_o of_o matth._n tell_v we_o quod_fw-la de_fw-fr scripture_n authoritatem_fw-la non_fw-la habet_fw-la eaedem_fw-la facilitate_v contemnitur_fw-la qua_fw-la probatur_fw-la that_o which_o derive_v not_o its_o authority_n from_o scripture_n the_o contemne_n of_o it_o be_v as_o ready_a as_o the_o proof_n be_v offer_v and_o on_o the_o 1._o chap._n of_o hag_n quae_fw-la absque_fw-la athoritate_fw-la &_o testimoniis_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la quasi_fw-la traditione_n apostolica_fw-la sponte_fw-la reperiunt_fw-la atque_fw-la confingunt_fw-la percutit_fw-la gladius_n dei_fw-la such_o thing_n as_o man_n of_o there_o own_o accord_n find_v out_o &_o forge_n upon_o pretence_n of_o apostolic_a tradition_n with_o out_o the_o authority_n and_o testimony_n of_o scripture_n the_o sword_n of_o god_n strike_v throw_v the_o same_o beside_o this_o discover_v the_o plea_n from_o antiquity_n to_o be_v very_a impertiment_n in_o this_o debate_n because_o the_o question_n betwixt_o we_o be_v not_o defacto_fw-la but_o de_fw-la jure_fw-la not_o what_o sort_n of_o bishop_n have_v be_v as_o to_o matter_n of_o fact_n introduce_v into_o the_o church_n of_o old_a or_o of_o late_a but_o by_o what_o warrant_n and_o right_n they_o have_v possess_v their_o place_n we_o allege_v and_o prove_v that_o the_o present_a prelate_n now_o existent_a stand_v condemn_v by_o christ_n the_o great_a lawgiver_n his_o rule_n in_o point_n of_o church_n government_n set_v down_o in_o his_o testament_n now_o to_o answer_v this_o charge_n with_o humane_a testimony_n as_o to_o custom_n or_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n even_o grant_v that_o his_o testimony_n do_v prove_v the_o matter_n of_o fact_n viz_o that_o our_o present_a prelate_n be_v exemplify_v in_o the_o ancient_a bishop_n what_o be_v it_o but_o to_o oppose_v humane_a corruption_n to_o god_n ordinance_n the_o practice_n of_o man_n to_o god_n rule_n and_o man_n testimony_n who_o be_v liar_n to_o the_o divine_a oracle_n of_o the_o god_n of_o truth_n this_o man_n think_v it_o a_o herculean_a argument_n when_o he_o draw_v his_o human_a testimony_n as_o to_o prelacy_n near_o the_o apostle_n time_n as_o if_o he_o have_v travel_v to_o hercules_n pillar_n and_o wonder_n how_o we_o can_v suppose_v that_o the_o church_n can_v so_o soon_o alter_v the_o divine_a institution_n but_o i_o pray_v how_o long_o be_v it_o after_o god_n holy_a law_n be_v proclaim_v from_o heaven_n by_o his_o own_o terrible_a voice_n that_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o israel_n together_o with_o aaron_n himself_o set_v up_o and_o worship_v the_o golden_a calf_n contrary_a unto_o the_o very_a express_a letter_n of_o the_o second_o command_n now_o suppose_v that_o idolatry_n several_a hundred_o year_n afterward_o have_v plead_v this_o antiquity_n or_o ancient_a custom_n of_o the_o church_n of_o israel_n after_o frequent_o imitate_v and_o which_o have_v its_o plausible_a pretext_n of_o intention_n to_o
that_o the_o bishop_n at_o his_o first_o rise_n be_v only_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o moderator_n of_o the_o presbytery_n blondel_n at_o large_a mantain_n the_o same_o only_o he_o hold_v that_o the_o next_o in_o degree_n succeed_v he_o when_o dead_a hence_o musculus_fw-la after_o he_o have_v from_o the_o text_n allege_v by_o jerome_n prove_v that_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n be_v all_o one_o add_v that_o thereafter_o ambition_n beget_v strife_n about_o precedency_n one_o be_v set_v up_o to_o be_v moderator_n in_o a_o fix_a orb_n and_o lest_o our_o informer_n or_o any_o else_o allege_v that_o prelacy_n therefore_o be_v necessary_a to_o prevent_v schism_n this_o eminent_a light_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n add_v but_o whither_o that_o device_n of_o man_n profit_v the_o church_n or_o no_o the_o time_n after_o can_v better_v judge_n and_o that_o the_o effect_n issue_v upon_o it_o dicover_v that_o it_o be_v not_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n his_o remedy_n to_o take_v away_o schism_n but_o satan_n project_n to_o destroy_v a_o faithful_a ministry_n the_o same_o say_v sadael_n viz_o that_o this_o difference_n betwixt_o bishop_n and_o minister_n which_o be_v introduce_v to_o remedy_v schism_n open_v a_o gap_n to_o ambition_n so_o dr_n whittaker_n have_v out_o of_o jerome_n show_v that_o faction_n occasion_v the_o change_n of_o the_o ancient_a apostolic_a parity_n among_o minister_n add_v that_o many_o wise_a and_o godly_a man_n have_v judge_v the_o change_n and_o remedy_n more_o pernicious_a than_o the_o disease_n itself_o which_o though_o at_o first_o it_o do_v not_o appear_v yet_o experience_v after_o prove_v that_o it_o bring_v the_o antichristian_a yoke_n upon_o the_o neck_n of_o the_o church_n see_v the_o appendix_n to_o jus_o divin_fw-fr minist_n evangel_n in_o which_o testimony_n of_o these_o great_a man_n we_o may_v observe_v two_o thing_n 1._o that_o they_o admit_v the_o first_o bishop_n to_o have_v be_v nothing_o else_o but_o fix_a moderator_n 2_o that_o even_o this_o much_o they_o do_v condemn_v as_o a_o deviation_n from_o the_o first_o appointment_n and_o as_o that_o which_o give_v a_o rise_n to_o the_o antichristian_a tyranny_n now_o the_o difference_n and_o disproportion_n betwixt_o this_o fix_a moderator_n and_o our_o present_a diocesian_n erastian_a prelate_n be_v so_o plain_a and_o obvious_a that_o nothing_o further_o need_v be_v say_v to_o clear_v it_o therefore_o his_o argument_n from_o the_o catalogue_n and_o those_o early_a first_o bishop_n who_o take_v place_n in_o the_o church_n be_v pitiful_o claudicant_a as_o to_o a_o conclusion_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n approbation_n of_o our_o prelate_n to_o clear_v it_o further_o its_o evident_a if_o we_o lay_v weight_n upon_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o ancient_a bishope_n themselves_o in_o point_n of_o church_n government_n that_o 1_o they_o hold_v not_o their_o consecration_n or_o ordination_n to_o be_v distinct_a from_o that_o of_o presbyter_n episcopi_fw-la &_o presbyteri_fw-la una_fw-la &_o eadem_fw-la est_fw-la ordinatio_fw-la that_o the_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n have_v one_o and_o the_o same_o ordination_n we_o hear_v be_v ambrose_n assertion_n 2._o no_o delegation_n of_o external_a jurisdiction_n to_o presbyter_n be_v acknowledge_v by_o the_o ancient_n as_o it_o be_v by_o our_o new_a hierachical_a pleader_n the_o prelatist_n hold_v that_o the_o bishop_n be_v proper_o the_o pastor_n of_o the_o whole_a diocese_n and_o that_o all_o the_o minister_n thereof_o have_v but_o a_o derive_v precarius_fw-la ministry_n under_o he_o so_o d●…wn_n defence_n lib_n 2._o c._n 4._o p._n 67._o field_n of_o the_o church_n 56._o c._n 27_o sarav_n the_o trip_n epis_fw-la p_o 87._o spala●…_n l._n 2._o c._n 9_o num._n 15._o and_o yet_o ambrose_n on_o 1_o tim._n 5_o and_o chrisostom_n hom._n 17_o on_o matthew_n call_v presbyter_n express_o christi_fw-la vicarios_fw-la christ_n vicar_n cyprian_a lib._n 4._o epist._n 8._o say_v dominum_fw-la sacerd●…tes_fw-la in_o sua_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o the_o lord_n condescend_v to_o elect_v &_o constitut_v to_o himself_o priest_n in_o his_o church_n 3._o the_o ancient_n hold_v that_o the_o power_n of_o external_a jurisdiction_n be_v common_a with_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n ignatius_n in_o his_o epistle_n to_o the_o trallian_n call_v the_o presbyter_n senatum_fw-la dei_fw-la god_n court_n or_o senat._n et_fw-la non_fw-la consiliarios_fw-la solum_fw-la sed_fw-la &_o assessores_fw-la episcopi_fw-la not_o counsellor_n only_a as_o be_v our_o curate_n and_o scarce_o that_o but_o the_o bishop_n assessor_n irenaeus_n lib._n 4._o cap._n 44._o call_v they_o principes_fw-la prince_n or_o chieff_n augustin_n serm_n 86._o call_v the_o brethren_n ineremo_fw-la patronos_fw-la rectores_fw-la terrae_fw-la patroness_n and_o rector_n of_o the_o earth_n chrisostom_n express_o show_v on_o 1._o tim._n 1_o hom_o 11._o ecclesijs_fw-la praesidisse_fw-la sicut_fw-la episcopi_fw-la &c_n &c_n that_o they_o preside_v over_o the_o church_n as_o the_o bishop_n and_o receive_v together_o with_o they_o the_o office_n of_o teach_v and_o govern_v the_o church_n the_o homily_n begin_v thus_o postquam_fw-la de_fw-la episcopis_fw-la dixit_fw-la eosque_fw-la formavit_fw-la quidnam_fw-la illos_fw-la habere_fw-la conveniat_fw-la a_o quo_fw-la item_n abstinere_fw-la necesse_fw-la sit_fw-la dictans_fw-la ommisso_fw-la interim_n presbyterorum_fw-la ordine_fw-la ad_fw-la diaconos_fw-la transiit_fw-la cur_n id_fw-la quaeso_fw-la quia_fw-la scilicet_fw-la inter_fw-la episcopum_fw-la atque_fw-la presbyterum_fw-la interest_n ferme_fw-fr nihil_fw-la quip_n &_o presbyteris_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la cura_fw-la permissa_fw-la est_fw-la &_o quae_fw-la de_fw-la episcopis_fw-la dixit_fw-la ●…ea_fw-la etiam_fw-la presbyteris_fw-la congruunt_fw-la that_o be_v after_o he_o have_v speak_v of_o bishope_n and_o form_v they_o enjoin_v what_o thing_n it_o become_v they_o to_o have_v and_o from_o what_o it_o be_v necessary_a they_o shall_v abstain_v omit_v the_o mean_a whil_n the_o order_n of_o presbyter_n he_o pass_v over_o to_o deacones_fw-la why_o so_o i_o pray_v even_o because_o that_o betwixt_o a_o bishope_n and_o presbyter_n there_o be_v almost_o no_o difference_n because_o unto_o presbyter_n also_o the_o care_n of_o the_o church_n be_v allow_v and_o what_o he_o say_v before_o concern_v bishope_n the_o same_o thing_n also_o do_v agree_v to_o presbyter_n i_o know_v he_o add_v sola_o quip_n ordinatione_fw-la superiores_fw-la illi_fw-la sunt_fw-la atque_fw-la hoc_fw-la tantum_fw-la plus_fw-la quam_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la habere_fw-la videntur_fw-la that_o the_o bishope_n only_o in_o ordination_n be_v superior_a to_o presbyter_n according_a to_o the_o latin_a interpretation_n follow_v by_o dounam_fw-la and_o bilson_n and_o by_o bellarmin_n before_o they_o but_o the_o more_o learned_a interpreter_n have_v observe_v that_o the_o greek_a will_v bear_v a_o far_a other_o sense_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d sola_fw-la enim_fw-la suffragatione_fw-la horum_fw-la ascenderunt_fw-la atque_fw-la hoc_fw-la solo_fw-la videntur_fw-la presbyteris_fw-la injuriam_fw-la facere_fw-la that_o be_v that_o only_o by_o the_o presbyter_n suffrage_n they_o have_v ascend_v viz_o to_o this_o power_n and_o in_o this_o only_o they_o seem_v to_o do_v injury_n to_o presbyter_n the_o learned_a junius_n the_o cleric_a cap._n 7._o not_o 611._o tell_v we_o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d hic_fw-la presbyterorum_fw-la non_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la quod_fw-la si_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d est_fw-la ordinatio_fw-la ergo_fw-la presbyterorum_fw-la est_fw-la ordinatio_fw-la the_o hand_n suffrage_n be_v here_o the_o presbyter_n but_o if_o it_o be_v mean_v of_o ordination_n than_o ordination_n belong_v to_o they_o and_o have_v prove_v this_o construction_n &_o sense_n of_o the_o greek_a from_o suidas_n he_o show_v that_o chrisost._n place_v not_o the_o difference_n in_o ordination_n betwixt_o the_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n but_o in_o this_o that_o the_o bishope_n ascendunt_fw-la supra_fw-la presbyteros_fw-la in_o gradum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v ascend_v into_o there_o degree_n of_o episcopacy_n above_o the_o presbyter_n although_o because_o they_o step_n up_o by_o their_o suffrage_n they_o seem_v to_o wrong_v they_o when_o they_o assume_v any_o power_n to_o themselves_o who_o upon_o the_o ground_n of_o order_n not_o of_o power_n say_v he_o be_v set_v over_o they_o by_o there_o own_o suffrag_n he_o also_o tell_v bellarm._n the_o cleric_a ca._n 15._o not_o 29._o that_o grant_v his_o sense_n of_o chrysost._n word_n yet_o the_o bishop_n ordain_v only_o signo_fw-la &_o sermone_fw-la declare_v the_o sacred_a institution_n or_o inauguration_n of_o the_o person_n ordain_v but_o not_o ordinatione_fw-la veritatis_fw-la or_o by_o the_o true_a ordination_n which_o that_o sign_n represent_v some_o add_v that_o if_o chrisost._n be_v thus_o understand_v in_o the_o sense_n of_o bellarm._n and_o his_o episcopal_a sectator_n he_o do_v not_o right_o expound_v his_o text_n while_o distinguish_v that_o which_o he_o acknowledge_v the_o apostle_n make_v one_o &_o the●…_n same_o jerome_n tell_v we_o of_o their_o common_a government_n of_o the_o church_n together_o with_o the_o bishop_n from_o who_o gratian_n
in_o decretis_fw-la cause_n 16._o quest._n 1_o cap._n show_v that_o ecclesia_fw-la habet_fw-la senatum_fw-la presbyterorum_fw-la &c_n &c_n that_o the_o church_n have_v a_o senate_n of_o presbyter_n without_o who_o counsel_n the_o bishop_n can_v do_v nothing_o 2._o we_o hear_v that_o these_o ancient_a bishop_n be_v set_v up_o by_o the_o presbyter_n as_o their_o fix_a moderator_n and_o have_v all_o their_o episcopal_a power_n from_o their_o free_a choice_n and_o election_n and_o that_o any_o prerogative_n which_o they_o have_v over_o presbyter_n they_o ascribe_v it_o to_o custom_n and_o to_o the_o presbyter_n own_o choic_a consuetudini_fw-la non_fw-la dominicae_fw-la dispositionis_fw-la veritati_fw-la to_o custom_n not_o the_o truth_n of_o divine_a appointment_n as_o jerome_n speak_v irenaeus_n who_o live_v ann_n 180_o lib_n 4._o cap._n 43_o tell_v we_o that_o we_o must_v adher_o to_o those_o presbyter_n qui_fw-la successionem_fw-la habent_fw-la ab_fw-la apostolis_n qui_fw-la cum_fw-la episcopatus_fw-la successione_n charisma_n veritatis_fw-la acceperunt_fw-la who_o have_v succession_n from_o the_o apostle_n and_o together_o with_o the_o succession_n of_o episcopacy_n have_v the_o gift_n of_o verity_n ambrose_n in_o cap_n 4._o ephes._n affirm_v that_o non_fw-la per_fw-la omne_fw-la conveniunt_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o government_n in_o his_o time_n agree_v not_o in_o all_o point_n with_o scripture_n he_o mean_v it_o of_o any_o excrescent_a power_n which_o the_o bishop_n then_o have_v above_o presbyter_n and_o augustine_n ascribe_v all_o his_o difference_n from_o jerom_n who_o be_v a_o presbyter_n unto_o ecclesiae_fw-la usus_fw-la the_o church_n custom_n and_o grant_v that_o in_o this_o only_a episcopatus_fw-la presbyterio_n major_a est_fw-la the_o episcopacy_n be_v great_a than_o the_o presbyterat_a tom._n 2._o operum_fw-la epist._n 19_o ad_fw-la hieron_n and_o jerome_n hold_v in_o his_o epistle_n to_o evagrius_n primatum_fw-la hunc_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la alexandria_n primum_fw-la caepisse_v etc._n etc._n that_o this_o primacy_n of_o bishop_n begin_v first_o at_o alexandria_n and_o postmortem_a marcae_fw-la evangelistae_fw-la after_o the_o death_n of_o mark_n the_o evangelist_n and_o thus_o give_v the_o lie_n to_o our_o informer_n who_o will_v make_v we_o believe_v that_o it_o come_v from_o mark_n personal_a practice_n and_o appointment_n while_o a_o live_v he_o tell_v we_o also_o that_o it_o be_v paulatim_fw-la &_o by_o ●…ent_a degree_n that_o omnis_fw-la sollicitudo_fw-la ad_fw-la unum_fw-la delata_fw-la the_o episcopal_a care_n be_v put_v upon_o on_o sozom._n lib._n 1._o cap._n 15._o call_v it_o civitatis_fw-la consuetudinem_fw-la a_o custom_n wh●…ch_o prevail_v with_o other_o cite_v it_o be_v remarkable_a that_o by_o ephiphanius_n confession_n haeres_fw-la 87._o non_fw-la habuit_fw-la alexandrie_n duos_fw-la episcopos_fw-la ut_fw-la aliae_fw-la urbes_fw-la alexandria_n have_v not_o two_o bishope_n as_o other_o city_n but_o the_o informer_n will_v not_o dare_v to_o say_v that_o our_o prelate_n now_o have_v their_o power_n by_o presbyter_n election_n as_o these_o ancient_a bishopes_n 3_o it_o be_v also_o clear_a that_o in_o these_o first_o time_n when_o the_o episcopus_fw-la praeses_fw-la be_v set_v up_o and_o for_o some_o age_n afterward_o not_o only_o the_o presbyter_n but_o the_o people_n also_o have_v a_o great_a interest_n in_o their_o choice_n cyprian_n epist_n 68_o speak_v of_o the_o choice_n of_o bishop_n say_v that_o pleb●…_n maxim_n habet_fw-la potestatem_fw-la the_o people_n have_v main_o a_o power_n and_o that_o plebe_fw-la present_n that_o be_v in_o the_o people_n presence_n they_o be_v set_v up_o which_o he_o say_v be_v a_o power_n they_o have_v descend_v upon_o they_o de_fw-fr divina_fw-la auctoritate_fw-la that_o be_v from_o the_o divine_a authority_n and_o this_o have_v the_o approbation_n of_o one_fw-mi african_a synod_n consult_v by_o the_o church_n of_o spain_n as_o to_o election_n athanas_n epist_n ad_fw-la orthodox_n condemn_v the_o come_n in_o of_o a_o bishop_n without_o the_o people_n consent_n as_o a_o breach_n not_o only_o of_o one_fw-mi ecclesiastic_a constitution_n but_o one_fw-mi apostolic_a precept_n see_v smect_n page_n 26._o prove_a this_o at_o large_a that_o bishop_n be_v elect_v by_o the_o people_n cyprian_a lib._n 1._o epist._n 4._o nomine_fw-la synodi_fw-la africanae_fw-la videmus_fw-la de_fw-la divina_fw-la authoritate_fw-la descendere_fw-la ut_fw-la sacer_fw-la do_v plebe_fw-la present_n sub_fw-la omnium_fw-la oculis_fw-la deligatur_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o the_o priest_n be_v choose_v under_o the_o eye_n of_o all_o the_o people_n be_v present_a and_o approve_v as_o fit_a and_o worthy_a by_o a_o public_a testimony_n this_o he_o say_v we_o see_v descend_v from_o divine_a authority_n &_o ibid._n diligenter_fw-la the_o traditione_n divina_fw-la &_o apostolica_fw-la traditione_n tenendum_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la apud_fw-la nos_fw-la fere_n &_o per_fw-la provincias_fw-la universas_fw-la tenetur_fw-la ut_fw-la episcopus_fw-la deligatar_n plebi_fw-la cui_fw-la ordinatur_fw-la present_n etc._n etc._n that_o it_o be_v to_o to_o be_v hold_v from_o the_o divine_a and_o apostolic_a tradition_n as_o almost_o through_o all_o province_n it_o be_v observe_v that_o that_o the_o bishop_n be_v choose_v in_o the_o people_n presence_n over_o who_o he_o be_v ordain_v etc._n etc._n he_o testify_v that_o thus_o cornelius_n be_v choose_v bishop_n of_o rome_n lib._n 4_o epist_n 2._o grat._n do_v 62._o can_v nulla_fw-la ratio_fw-la fuit_fw-la ut_fw-la inter_fw-la episcopos_fw-la habeantur_fw-la qui_fw-la nec_fw-la a_o clero_fw-la sunt_fw-la electi_fw-la nec_fw-la a_o plebibus_fw-la sunt_fw-la expetiti_fw-la no_o reason_n permitt_v that_o they_o shall_v be_v hold_v bishop_n who_o be_v neither_o choose_v by_o the_o clergy_n nor_o desire_v by_o the_o people_n so_o ambrose_n be_v choose_v by_o the_o citticen_n of_o milan_n flavianus_n by_o those_o of_o antioch_n chrisostom_n by_o the_o constantin●…politans_n this_o custom_n be_v so_o root_v that_o when_o emperor_n afterward_o obtrude_v bishop_n without_o the_o previus_fw-la election_n of_o the_o clergy_n and_o people_n the_o most_o famous_a bishop_n much_o stomach_v it_o ubi_fw-la ille_fw-la canon_n say_v athanasius_n epist._n ad_fw-la solitariam_fw-la vitam_fw-la agentes_fw-la ut_fw-la a_fw-la pallatio_fw-la mittatur_fw-la be_v qui_fw-la futurus_fw-la est_fw-la episcopus_fw-la where_o be_v that_o canon_n that_o he_o who_o be_v to_o be_v bishop_n shall_v be_v send_v from_o the_o court_n let_v our_o court_n prelate_n mark_v this_o and_o our_o curate_n answer_v this_o quere_z now_o i_o hope_v our_o informer_n will_v not_o allege_v that_o the_o people_n have_v any_o the_o least_o interest_n in_o the_o choice_n of_o our_o prelate_n so_o that_o they_o be_v but_o novel_a &_o none_o of_o the_o ancient_a bishop_n in_o this_o point_n 4._o non_fw-fr of_o the_o first_o bishop_n can_v ordain_v alone_o this_o be_v beyond_o debate_n as_o to_o the_o first_o episcopus_fw-la prese_n but_o even_o in_o after_o time_n also_o when_o bishop_n power_n be_v far_o advance_v they_o can_v not_o thus_o ordain_v that_o their_o power_n of_o ordination_n be_v not_o singular_a appear_v from_o the_o four_o council_n of_o carthage_n can._n 22_o which_o decree_v that_o the_o bishope_n ordain_v not_o without_o the_o clergy_n and_o can._n 3._o they_o be_v not_o to_o impose_v hand_n without_o they_o the_o presbyter_n in_o cyprian_n time_n have_v the_o power_n bartisandi_fw-la of_o baptise_v manum_fw-la imponendi_fw-la or_o of_o lay_v on_o hand_n &_o ordinandi_fw-la that_o be_v of_o ordain_v epist_n 78._o and_o in_o egypt_n in_o absence_n of_o the_o bishop_n they_o ordain_v alone_o see_v smect_n p._n 27._o upon_o this_o ground_n ambrose_n say_v that_o betwixt_o the_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n there_o be_v almost_o no_o difference_n now_o have_v not_o our_o prelate_n power_n to_o ordain_v alone_o and_o have_v they_o not_o the_o facto_fw-la frequent_o do_v so_o so_o that_o upon_o this_o account_n also_o they_o be_v new_o mint_v gentleman_n 5._o the_o power_n and_o government_n of_o the_o ancient_a bishop_n in_o church_n judicatory_n be_v not_o sole_a and_o singular_a as_o that_o of_o our_o prelate_n nor_o do_v they_o invad_v or_o inhanse_v their_o decisive_a conclusive_a suffrage_n as_o they_o do_v who_o be_v prince_n in_o all_o the_o present_a church_n meeting_n which_o must_v only_o give_v they_o advice_n and_o not_o that_o unless_o this_o high_a priest_n judge_v they_o of_o know_a loyalty_n and_o prudence_n and_o may_v do_v with_o their_o advice_n what_o he_o please_v whereas_o cyprian_n epist._n 6._o and_o 28_o profess_v that_o he_o neither_o can_v nor_o will_v do_v any_o thing_n without_o the_o clergy_n and_o the_o 4●…_n council_n of_o carthage_n condemn_v the_o bishop_n decision_n unless_o fortify_v by_o the_o sentence_n of_o the_o clergy_n can._n 23._o where_o be_v the_o negative_a voice_n here_o see_v ruffin_n hist._n lib._n 10._o cap._n 9_o smectim_n prove_v from_o canon_n of_o ancient_a council_n &_o the_o father_n that_o neither_o 1._o in_o censure_v presbyter_n nor_o 2._o in_o judgeing_a of_o the_o conversation_n or_o crime_n of_o church_n member_n nor_o 3_o in_o
in_o all_o his_o antiquity_n a_o prel●…y_n deryo_v all_o its_o power_n both_o of_o ordination_n and_o jurisdiction_n absolute_o from_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n have_v no_o intrinsic_a spiritual_a authority_n and_o in_o all_o its_o administeration_n act_v by_o way_n of_o deputation_n and_o commission_n from_o the_o magistrate_n as_o accountable_a to_o he_o in_o every_o piece_n thereof_o immediate_o and_o sole_o as_o other_o inferior_a civil_a governor_n dane_n he_o say_v that_o these_o bishop_n in_o the_o first_o age_n exercise_v not_o one_fw-mi inherent_a ecclesiastic_a spiritual_a power_n distinct_a from_o and_o independent_a upon_o the_o magistrate_n be_v all_o their_o meeting_n and_o all_o matter_n cognoscible_a in_o they_o give_v up_o to_o be_v pro_fw-la libitu_fw-la dispose_v of_o by_o any_o prince_n or_o potentat_fw-la whither_o heathen_a or_o christian_n do_v not_o all_o minister_n and_o bishop_n of_o these_o time_n exercise_v one_fw-mi ecclesiastic_a independent_a authority_n as_o be_v total_o distinct_a from_o and_o not_o a_o part_n of_o the_o civil_a government_n be_v ever_o there_o erastian_n government_n hear_v of_o in_o the_o christian_a world_n till_o thomas_n erastus_n of_o heidelberg_n brotch_v it_o and_o have_v it_o not_o since_o that_o time_n be_v impugn_a by_o the_o most_o famous_a light_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n as_o contrary_a to_o the_o rule_n of_o the_o gospel_n church_n government_n so_o that_o our_o informer_n must_v acknowledge_v the_o present_a ecclesiasticocivil_a or_o linsy-wolsy-prelacy_a to_o be_v a_o speckled_a bird_n of_o new_a fashion_a colour_n never_o before_o see_v to_o which_o he_o will_v not_o find_v a_o paralleel_n among_o all_o the_o father_n or_o bishop_n of_o former_a age_n 9_o let_v i_o add_v how_o will_v our_o informer_n make_v it_o appear_v that_o in_o the_o first_o pure_a age_n any_o of_o the_o ancient_a bishop_n do_v deny_v &_o whole_o exclud_v roll_a elder_n from_o church_n judieatories_n we_o have_v prove_v this_o officer_n to_o be_v juris_fw-la divini_fw-la from_o scripture_n and_o the_o full_a consent_n of_o antiquity_n &_o also_o of_o reform_a divine_n be_v abundantlie_o clear_a &_o exhibit_v by_o many_o of_o the_o learned_a for_o the_o divine_a right_n of_o this_o officer_n ambrose_n be_v bring_v in_o complean_v of_o the_o disuse_n of_o these_o officer_n on_o 1_o tim._n 5._o as_o a_o devation_n from_o the_o scripture-patern_n &_o proceed_v from_o the_o pride_n &_o negligence_n of_o doctor_n origin_n his_o testimony_n lib_n 3._o contr_n celsum_n be_v remarkable_a who_o show_v that_o among_o the_o more_o polite_a hearer_n who_o be_v above_o the_o catechumenist_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n non_fw-la nulli_fw-la praepositi_fw-la sunt_fw-la qui_fw-la in_o vitam_fw-la &_o mores_fw-la eorem_fw-la qui_fw-la admittuntur_fw-la inquirunt_fw-la ut_fw-la qui_fw-la turpia_fw-la committunt_fw-la eos_fw-la communi_fw-la caetu_fw-la interdicant_fw-la qui_fw-la vero_fw-la ab_fw-la istis_fw-la abborrent_n ex_fw-la animo_fw-la complext_v meliores_fw-la quotidie_fw-la reddant_fw-la there_o be_v some_o set_v over_o the_o rest_n who_o inquire_v into_o the_o life_n and_o manner_n of_o those_o who_o be_v admit_v that_o such_o as_o commit_v these_o thing_n that_o be_v vile_a they_o may_v discharge_v they_o from_o the_o public_a assembly_n and_o embrace_v from_o their_o heart_n such_o as_o be_v far_o from_o these_o thing_n they_o may_v render_v they_o every_o day_n better_o here_o be_v censurer_n of_o manner_n find_v in_o the_o ancient_a church_n though_o not_o minister_n and_o design_v and_o constitut_v to_o their_o work_n with_o authority_n in_o their_o hand_n to_o interdict_v the_o scandalous_a and_o what_o be_v these_o but_o rule_v elder_n so_o augustin_n epist._n 137._o write_v to_o his_o charge_n direct_v it_o thus_o dilectis_fw-la sratrbus_fw-la clero_fw-la senioribus_fw-la &_o universae_fw-la plebi_fw-la eccle●…ae_fw-la hippo_fw-it ensis_fw-la to_o the_o belove_a brethren_n the_o clergy_n the_o elder_n and_o the_o whole_a people_n of_o the_o church_n of_o hippo._n so_o contr._n crese_n gramattic_a omnes_fw-la vos_fw-la episcopi_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la diaconi_fw-la &_o siniores_fw-la scitis_fw-la all_o you_o '_o bishop_n presbyter_n deacons_n and_o elder_n do_v know_v here_o be_v tuo_fw-la sort_n of_o elder_n mention_v in_o one_o comma_n who_o can_v be_v nothing_o else_o but_o rule_v elder_n for_o the_o same_o purpose_n the_o learned_a in_o handle_v this_o theme_n do_v cite_v barronius_n ann_n 103._o where_o he_o enumerat_o episcopi_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la diaconi_fw-la seniores_fw-la bishop_n presbyter_n deacon_n elder_n so_o also_o tertullian_n apolleget_v adversus_fw-la gentes_fw-la c._n 39_o cyprian_n epist._n 39_o optatus_n lib._n 1._o p._n 41._o and_o many_o other_o see_v assertion_n of_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n of_o scotland_n christoph_n justell_v observe_v &_o not_o in_o cod._n can._n eccles._n afrique_n p._n 110_o 111._o jus_o divinum_fw-la regim_fw-la eccles._n smectim_n &c_n &c_n 10._o the_o ancient_a bishop_n be_v not_o set_v over_o whole_a province_n but_o city_n by_o city_n for_o most_o part_n yea_o several_a city_n have_v more_o which_o say_v they_o be_v not_o at_o all_o bishop_n proper_o clemens_n in_o constit._n l._n 7._o c._n 46._o show_v that_o evodius_n and_o ignatius_n have_v at_o once_o the_o episcopacy_n over_o the_o church_n of_o antioch_n and_o what_o be_v this_o but_o a_o mere_a collegiate_n ministry_n council_n african_n cap._n 21._o appoint_v that_o to_o examine_v the_o cause_n of_o a_o presbyter_n sex_n episcopl_n ex_fw-la vicinis_fw-la locis_fw-la adjungerentur_fw-la 6_o bishop_n from_o neighbour_a place_n be_v adjoin_v poor_a dorps_n have_v their_o bishop_n as_o be_v clear_a in_o history_n nazianzon_n a_o little_a town_n near_o caesarea_n yet_o be_v all_o the_o episcopal_a see_v of_o gregory_n nazianzen_n in_o chrysostoms_n time_n the_o diocese_n contain_v but_o one_o city_n homil._n 3_o in_o acta_fw-la nun_n terr_v arum_fw-la orbis_fw-la imperium_fw-la tenet_fw-la imperator_fw-la etc._n etc._n do_v not_o the_o emperor_n say_v he_o govern_v the_o world_n but_o this_o man_n be_v a_o bishop_n only_o of_o one_o city_n sozom._n hist._n bcclesiast_n lib._n 7._o cap._n 19_o tell_v we_o that_o he_o find_v with_o the_o arabian_n and_o those_o of_o cyprus_n bishop_n in_o little_a dorps_n 11._o the_o ancient_a bishop_n place_v preach_v among_o the_o chief_a part_n of_o their_o office_n and_o be_v not_o idle_a drone_n as_o we_o be_v theophilact_fw-mi on_o 1_o tim._n 3._o tell_v we_o that_o docendi_fw-la officium_fw-la omnium_fw-la precipue_v ut_fw-la insit_fw-la episcopis_fw-la est_fw-la necesse_fw-la that_o the_o office_n of_o preach_v which_o be_v the_o chieff_a of_o all_o other_o its_o necessary_a that_o the_o bishop_n be_v endue_v with_o it_o as_o we_o court-prelats_a so_o our_o non-preaching_a prelate_n be_v stranger_n unto_o and_o condemn_v by_o the_o ancient_a canon_n photii_fw-la nomocan_n do_fw-mi 8._o cap_n 12._o de_fw-fr episcopis_fw-la qui_fw-la non_fw-la convertunt_fw-la haereticos_fw-la &_o de_fw-fr episcopis_fw-la &_o clericis_fw-la qui_fw-la non_fw-la docent_fw-la populum_fw-la he_o present_n and_o digest_v the_o canon_n against_o bishop_n and_o clergy_n man_n who_o convert_v not_o haeretik_n and_o teach_v not_o the_o people_n some_o of_o these_o canon_n be_v as_o follow_v the_o 58._o canon_n of_o those_o call_v apostolic_a rune_v thus_o episcopus_fw-la vel_fw-la presbyter_n qui_fw-la cleri_fw-la vel_fw-la populi_fw-la curam_fw-la non_fw-la gerit_fw-la &_o eos_fw-la piet_fw-la atem_fw-la non_fw-la docet_fw-la segregetur_fw-la &_o si_fw-la in_o socordia_fw-la perseveret_fw-la deponatur_fw-la the_o bishop_n or_o presbyter_n who_o take_v no_o care_n of_o the_o people_n or_o clergy_n and_o teach_v they_o not_o piety_n let_v he_o be_v set_v aside_o and_o if_o he_o continue_v in_o his_o folly_n let_v he_o be_v depose_v balsamon_n upon_o this_o canon_n tell_v we_o that_o episcopalis_fw-la dignitas_fw-la in_o docendo_fw-la consistit_fw-la &_o omnis_fw-la episcopus_fw-la debet_fw-la docere_fw-la populum_fw-la pia_fw-la dogmata_fw-la &c_n &c_n the_o episcopal_a dignity_n consist_v in_o teach_v and_o every_o bishop_n ought_v to_o teach_v the_o people_n holy_a statute_n for_o the_o bishop_n be_v for_o this_o end_n establish_v to_o attend_v the_o people_n &c_n &c_n thereafter_o he_o show_v that_o the_o presbyter_n ought_v to_o be_v so_o employ_v quia_fw-la etiam_fw-la prope_fw-la episcopos_fw-la sedent_fw-la in_o superioribus_fw-la cathedris_fw-la because_o they_o sit_v beside_o the_o bishop_n in_o the_o high_a seat_n they_o be_v not_o then_o the_o prelate_n underlinge_n as_o our_o curate_n be_v now_o hence_o he_o conclude_v that_o the_o bishop_n or_o priest_n who_o neglect_v this_o duty_n be_v to_o be_v set_v aside_o and_o if_o continue_v to_o be_v depose_v the_o 36._o of_o these_o canon_n put_v this_o censor_n upon_o the_o bishop_n who_o neglect_v this_o duty_n si_fw-mi quis_fw-la ordinatus_fw-la episcopus_fw-la non_fw-la suscipiat_fw-la ministerium_fw-la &_o curam_fw-la sibi_fw-la commissam_fw-la sit_fw-la segregatus_fw-la &c_n &c_n that_o the_o ordain_v bishop_n shall_v be_v set_v aside_o sure_v who_o go_v not_o
and_o attendant_n although_o a_o great_a bishop_n be_v high_o condemn_v as_o expose_v our_o faith_n to_o envy_v and_o hatred_n euseb._n lib._n 7._o cap._n 29._o the_o canon_n of_o the_o 4_o council_n of_o carthage_n insert_v by_o gratian_n in_o the_o body_n of_o the_o decree_n distinct_a 41._o provide_v that_o episcopus_fw-la non_fw-la long_o ab_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la hospitiolum_fw-la vil_fw-mi emsupellectilem_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o the_o bishop_n have_v his_o little_a manse_v not_o far_o from_o the_o church_n that_o he_o have_v mean_a household_n stuff_n etc._n etc._n et_fw-la dignitatis_fw-la suae_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la fide_fw-la &_o meritis_fw-la quaerat_fw-la and_o purchase_v authority_n to_o his_o office_n or_o dignity_n by_o faith_n and_o good_a work_n sozom._n lib_n 6._o cap._n 16._o relat_n of_o basilius_n magnus_n bishop_n of_o caesaria_n that_o he_o answer_v the_o imperours_n praefect_n who_o threaten_v the_o confiscation_n of_o his_o good_n thus_o horum_fw-la nihil_fw-la i_o cruciari_fw-la potest_fw-la equidem_fw-la opes_fw-la non_fw-la habeo_fw-la preterquam_fw-la laceram_fw-la vestem_fw-la &_o paucos_fw-la libros_fw-la none_o of_o these_o thing_n can_v torment_v i_o true_o i_o have_v no_o good_n but_o a_o tear_a garment_n and_o some_o book_n see_v the_o historia_fw-la motuum_fw-la page_v 143._o to_o 174._o now_o from_o all_o that_o be_v say_v i_o think_v common_a ingenuity_n will_v acknowledge_v and_o this_o informer_n himself_o if_o he_o be_v not_o one_fw-mi utter_a stranger_n to_o it_o that_o our_o present_a episcopacy_n be_v as_o far_o discrepant_a from_o that_o of_o the_o ancient_a christian_a church_n as_o east_n from_o west_n and_o by_o consequence_n that_o this_o plead_n from_o the_o ancient_a prostasie_n or_o even_o the_o after_o bishop_n to_o legittimat_fw-la and_o patronize_v our_o present_a prelacy_n be_v a_o most_o gross_a nonsequitur_fw-la and_o notorious_a fallacy_n chap._n fourteen_o the_o informer_n pretend_v testimony_n out_o of_o calvine_n beza_n blondel_n etc._n etc._n for_o episcopacy_n examine_v their_o anti-episcopall_a judgement_n clear_v from_o their_o write_n the_o informer_n cross_v bishop_n spotswood_n and_o tilen_v his_o two_o absurdity_n which_o by_o way_n of_o dilemma_n he_o offer_v to_o we_o from_o our_o assertion_n of_o the_o unalterablee_n of_o presbyterian_a government_n &_o our_o concession_n of_o a_o proestos_fw-la early_o bring_v in_o scan_v &_o retort_v upon_o himself_o the_o authores_fw-la of_o jus_o divinum_fw-la ministerii_fw-la evangelici_fw-la vindicate_v at_o some_o length_n whereas_o the_o informer_n be_v bold_a to_o affirm_v that_o calvin●…_n beza_n blondel_n and_o other_o eminent_a divine_n who_o have_v write_v against_o episcopacy_n be_v reconcilable_a to_o it_o yea_o to_o a_o hierarchy_n of_o the_o high_a stamp_n we_o answer_v 1._o the_o full_a and_o harmanious_a consent_n of_o ancient_n and_o modern_a divine_n and_o reform_a church_n for_o that_o which_o we_o plead_v for_o in_o point_n of_o church-government_n shall_v be_v exhibit_v in_o the_o last_o chapter_n 2._o as_o for_o calvin_n judgement_n in_o relation_n to_o presbyterian_a government_n it_o be_v so_o full_o know_v to_o the_o world_n in_o his_o write_n that_o we_o think_v there_o need_v no_o more_o to_o put_v a_o brand_n of_o impudence_n upon_o any_o then_o to_o deny_v it_o and_o we_o do_v appeal_v to_o his_o judicious_a commente_n upon_o all_o the_o controvert_v place_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n betwixt_o they_o and_o we_o wherein_o all_o that_o we_o plead_v for_o either_o as_o to_o the_o identity_n of_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n in_o name_n and_o thing_n the_o presbyterye_n power_n in_o ordination_n and_o jurisdiction_n the_o extraordinary_a evangelistick_a power_n of_o timothy_n and_o titus_n the_o divine_a right_n of_o the_o roll_a elder_n the_o people_n right_a in_o the_o call_n of_o minister_n the_o unlawfulness_n of_o prelate_n sole_a power_n and_o dominion_n over_o their_o brethren_n the_o unwarrantablenes_n of_o minister_n state_n office_n &c_n &c_n be_v clear_o assert_v let_v any_o consult_v he_o upon_o matth._n 18._o 17._o matth_n 21_o 22._o luk._n 22_o 25._o act._n 6_o 2_o 3_o 4._o act._n 14_o 23._o act._n 20_o 17_o 28_o 29_o 30._o 1._o cor._n 5._o 1_o cor._n 12._o 28._o with_o rom._n 12_o 6_o 7._o 2_o cor._n 2_o 6_o 7._o eph_n 4_o 11_o 12._o 1_o thess._n 5_o 12_o 13._o 2_o thess._n 3_o 14._o heb._n 13_o 7_o 17._o 1_o tim._n 1_o 3._o etc._n etc._n and_o 4_o 14._o 2_o tim_n 2_o 4_o 2_o tim._n 1_o 6._o tit._n 1_o 6_o 7._o etc._n etc._n and_o such_o like_a place_n where_o he_o will_v be_v find_v to_o give_v sentence_n for_o we_o against_o the_o prelatik_a party_n and_o expound_v they_o just_a as_o we_o do_v 3._o these_o adversary_n do_v grant_v that_o the_o government_n in_o this_o church_n which_o famous_a mr._n knox_n own_v and_o all_o his_o day_n contend_v for_o be_v presbyterial_a government_n and_o it_o be_v as_o well_o know_v and_o acknowledge_v by_o themselves_o that_o he_o have_v the_o sense_n and_o judgement_n both_o of_o calvin_n and_o beza_n in_o that_o great_a bussiness_n spotswood_n in_o his_o history_n tell_v we_o that_o john_n knox_n frame_v our_o rule_n of_o discipline_n in_o imitation_n of_o what_o he_o have_v see_v at_o geneva_n tilen_v in_o his_o petulant_a piece_n entitle_v paraensis_fw-la ad_fw-la scotos_fw-gr genevensis_fw-la discipline_n zelotas_n make_v this_o undeniable_a he_o call_v calvin_n and_o beza_n all_o along_o our_o master_n and_o allege_v that_o we_o can_v hear_v of_o nothing_o but_o out_o of_o their_o scool_a etc._n etc._n but_o that_o they_o own_v presbyterian_a government_n as_o the_o only_a government_n appoint_v in_o the_o house_n of_o god_n he_o never_o take_v the_o confidence_n or_o have_v the_o forehead_n to_o deny_v when_o john_n knox_n be_v desire_v by_o some_o to_o write_v to_o calvin_n and_o other_o about_o a_o certain_a difficulty_n he_o answer_v that_o he_o come_v not_o here_o without_o all_o their_o judgement_n in_o what_o he_o have_v do_v and_o that_o they_o may_v think_v he_o unconstant_a in_o write_v for_o a_o resolution_n in_o that_o matter_n now_o john_n knox_n look_v upon_o episcopocy_n as_o a_o limb_n of_o antichrist_n hierarchy_n and_o as_o have_v aliquid_fw-la commumune_fw-la cum_fw-la anti_fw-la christo._n something_o in_o it_o common_a with_o antichrist_n so_o that_o what_o the_o informer_n mention_n of_o measson_n and_o bish_n andrews_n their_o assert_v of_o calvin_n and_o beza_n episcopal_a government_n at_o geneva_n and_o their_o preeminencie_n in_o ordination_n and_o jurisdiction_n be_v a_o gross_a calumny_n the_o eminent_a part_n of_o these_o famous_a divine_n may_v make_v their_o judgement_n have_v great_a influence_n in_o determine_v other_o but_o that_o either_o calvin_n or_o beza_n do_v ever_o encroach_v upon_o the_o decisive_a power_n of_o their_o fellow_n presbyter_n or_o act_v any_o thing_n pro_fw-la imperio_fw-la or_o sole_o be_v a_o calumny_n which_o any_o who_o ever_o read_v their_o life_n can_v sufficient_o disprove_v their_o labour_n and_o practice_v as_o well_o as_o their_o write_n be_v for_o mantaine_v the_o due_a right_n of_o presbyterian_a government_n against_o enemy_n of_o all_o sort_n in_o the_o life_n of_o galleaceus_fw-la caracciolus_n it_o be_v report_v that_o calvin_n be_v consult_v by_o he_o in_o a_o case_n of_o conscience_n require_v secrecy_n in_o a_o great_a measure_n will_v give_v he_o no_o determinat_fw-la answer_n though_o a_o rule_a elder_n in_o that_o church_n without_o consult_v his_o brethren_n as_o for_o that_o which_o the_o informer_n cite_v out_o of_o calvines_n inflit._n l._n 4._o c._n 4._o sect._n 2._o where_o he_o acknowledge_v that_o jerom_n teach_v that_o the_o proestos_fw-la be_v one_fw-mi ancient_a institution_n and_o that_o he_o repeat_v what_o i_o say_v a_o marco_n etc._n etc._n it_o be_v a_o pitiful_a proof_n to_o conclude_v thereupon_o that_o calvin_n acknowledge_v diocesian_a prelate_n as_o ancient_a as_o mark._n for_o calvine_n know_v well_o that_o i_o speak_v but_o of_o the_o proestos_fw-la first_o set_v up_o and_o the_o informer_n have_v not_o prove_v that_o either_o calvin_n or_o jerom_n give_v their_o approbation_n to_o the_o set_n of_o he_o up_o and_o for_o what_o he_o add_v that_o calvin_n say_v ne_fw-la ex_fw-la equalitate_fw-la ut_fw-la fieri_fw-la solet_fw-la dissidi●…_n orirenter_fw-la that_o they_o be_v set_v up_o least_o from_o equality_n discord_n shall_v arise_v as_o usual_o there_o do_v grant_v that_o he_o acknowledge_v they_o be_v more_o than_o mere_a moderator_n that_o be_v fix_v moderator_n what_o then_o be_v our_o prelate_n no_o more_o or_o will_v his_o acknowledgement_n of_o the_o factum_fw-la prove_v his_o acknowledment_n of_o the_o jus_o and_o though_o man_n corruption_n abuse_v parity_n to_o discord_n what_o then_o our_o corruption_n will_v abuse_v the_o best_a ordinance_n of_o god_n as_o for_o what_o he_o cite_v from_o instit._n l._n 4._o c._n 5._o sect._n 11._o our_o informer_n have_v not_o prove_v that_o calvin_n by_o episcopi_fw-la and_o
call_v one_fw-mi evasion_n anent_o the_o alteration_n of_o some_o thing_n in_o the_o apostolic_a church_n as_o we_o disowne_v stillingfleet_n in_o make_v the_o frame_n of_o government_n which_o the_o apostle_n establish_v in_o the_o church_n versatile_a various_a or_o alterable_a so_o we_o disowne_v this_o informer_n in_o resolve_v it_o sole_o upon_o the_o church_n decision_n what_o apostolic_a practice_n be_v imitable_a or_o moral_a and_o what_o not_o a_o dangerous_a popish_a principle_n and_o wherein_o he_o will_v be_v find_v inconsistent_a with_o himself_o but_o for_o the_o apostolic_a government_n by_o the_o common_a concell_n of_o presbyter_n we_o hold_v it_o moral_a and_o perpetual_a upon_o the_o same_o ground_n of_o the_o church_n union_n and_o edification_n which_o himself_o do_v plead_v as_o for_o the_o shift_n and_o bad_a issue_n which_o he_o allege_n presbyterian_a writter_n be_v drive_v unto_o neither_o he_o nor_o any_o of_o his_o party_n can_v make_v it_o appear_v but_o his_o own_o pitiful_a shift_n and_o of_o other_o of_o his_o way_n in_o plead_v for_o this_o hierarchy_n we_o hope_v by_o this_o time_n be_v sufficient_o apparent_a as_o for_o durell_n offer_v to_o get_v episcopacy_n one_fw-mi approbation_n from_o all_o foreign_a divine_n we_o let_v it_o pass_v as_o a_o piece_n of_o prelatic_a pageantry_n fit_a to_o fill_v pamphlet_n ad_fw-la pompam_fw-la non_fw-la ad_fw-la pugnam_fw-la quid_fw-la tanto_fw-la tulit_fw-la hic_fw-la promissor_n hiatu_fw-la durel_n and_o the_o informer_n can_v stand_v before_o their_o evidence_n who_o have_v make_v the_o contrary_a appear_v for_o what_o he_o add_v anent_o our_o superintendent_o as_o have_v upon_o the_o matter_n one_fw-mi episcopal_n power_n i_o refer_v he_o to_o the_o defence_n of_o the_o epistle_n of_o philadelphus_n against_o spotswood_n calumny_n print_v at_o the_o end_n of_o didoclavius_n page_n 30_o 31._o where_o he_o will_v find_v the_o difference_n betwixt_o they_o and_o prelate_n clear_v and_o state_v in_o 12._o particular_n to_o his_o conviction_n unless_o he_o have_v resolve_v ne_fw-la si_fw-la persuaseris_fw-la persuaderis_fw-la so_o that_o worthy_a mr._n knox_n give_v no_o patrociny_n to_o prelacy_n in_o countenance_v the_o admission_n of_o superintendent_o how_o he_o have_v deryve_v his_o prelacy_n from_o scripture_n and_o through_o antiquity_n to_o reform_a time_n &_o church_n in_o their_o confession_n let_v the_o impartial_a judge_n by_o what_o i_o have_v answer_v from_o the_o beginning_n as_o for_o the_o author_n of_o jus_o divinum_fw-la minist_n anglic_n their_o proof_n of_o the_o identity_n of_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n at_o length_n clear_v from_o father_n schoolman_n &_o reform_a divine_n even_o from_o episcopal_a divine_n in_o england_n the_o informer_n have_v do_v better_a not_o to_o mention_v that_o piece_n then_o to_o have_v make_v such_o a_o simple_a &_o insipid_a return_n anent_o the_o scoolmens_n notione_n whither_o episcopacy_n be_v a_o different_a order_n from_o presbytery_n or_o a_o different_a degree_n of_o the_o same_o order_n for_o though_o this_o be_v grant_v that_o the_o scoole-man_n toss_v such_o a_o question_n dare_v he_o say_v that_o the_o ancient_a father_n both_o greek_n and_o latin_n and_o late_o reform_v divine_v cite_v in_o that_o learned_a piece_n in_o their_o clear_a and_o positive_a assertion_n of_o the_o parity_n of_o bishop_n &_o presbyter_n jure_fw-la divino_fw-la entertain_v any_o such_o notion_n as_o this_o again_o have_v he_o be_v so_o ingenuus_fw-la and_o true_a to_o the_o learned_a authores_fw-la of_o that_o piece_n and_o unto_o himself_o ●…s_v he_o ought_v to_o have_v be_v he_o may_v have_v find_v cite_v therein_o a_o passage_n of_o cassander_n in_o his_o book_n of_o consul●…_n artic._n 14_o which_o break_v this_o his_o answer_n all_o in_o piece_n and_o because_o his_o squeemish_n eye_n look_v asquint_o upon_o it_o i_o shall_v here_o set_v it_o down_o that_o it_o may_v appear_v what_o a_o great_a charge_n this_o be_v which_o he_o bring_v against_o these_o divine_n an_fw-mi episcopa●…us_fw-la inter_fw-la ordines_fw-la ecclesiasticos_fw-la ponendus_fw-la sit_fw-la inter_fw-la theologos_fw-la &_o canoni●…as_fw-la non_fw-la convenit_fw-la convenit_fw-la autem_fw-la inter_fw-la own_v in_o apostolorum_fw-la aetate_fw-la inter_fw-la episcopos_fw-la &_o presbyteros_fw-la nullum_fw-la discrimen_fw-la fuisse_fw-la sed_fw-la post_fw-la modum_fw-la schismatis_fw-la evitandi_fw-la causa_fw-la episcopum_fw-la presbyteris_fw-la fuisse_fw-la praepositum_fw-la &c_n &c_n that_o be_v whither_o episcopacy_n be_v to_o be_v place_v among_o the_o ecclesiastic_a order_n it_o be_v not_o agree_v between_o the_o theologue_n &_o canonist_n but_o it_o be_v agree_v among_o all_o that_o in_o the_o apostle_n age_n there_o be_v no_o difference_n between_o bishop_n &_o presbyter_n but_o afterward_o upon_o the_o ground_n of_o evit_a schism_n the_o bishop_n be_v set_v ever_o presbyter_n etc._n etc._n now_o whither_o these_o disputant_n do_v agree_v that_o always_o from_o the_o apostle_n time_n there_o be_v bishop_n distinct_a from_o presbyter_n as_o this_o informer_n be_v not_o ashamed_a to_o affirm_v let_v the_o great_a adversary_n judge_v by_o this_o account_n of_o such_o one_fw-mi impartial_a witness_n how_o can_v he_o say_v that_o these_o father_n may_v be_v of_o this_o mind_n and_o likwayes_o these_o late_a divine_n that_o always_o from_o the_o apostle_n there_o be_v bishop_n set_v over_o presbyter_n what_o a_o selfcontradict_a tenet_n be_v this_o for_o any_o rational_a man_n to_o entertain_v viz_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n re_fw-mi &_o nomine_fw-la in_o name_n and_o thing_n the_o same_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n and_o in_o their_o doctrine_n and_o yet_o that_o bishop_n be_v set_v over_o presbyter_n by_o the_o apostle_n and_o distinct_a from_o they_o in_o their_o time_n what_o will_v he_o make_v of_o all_o jerome_n scripture_n proof_n through_o the_o apostle_n time_n and_o write_n anent_o this_o complete_a parity_n of_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n of_o the_o say_n of_o ambrose_n that_o non_fw-la per_fw-la omne_fw-la conveniunt_fw-la seripta_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la ordinationi_fw-la quae_fw-la nun●…_n est_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la the_o writing_n of_o the_o apostle_n agree●…_n not_o in_o every_o thing_n with_o the_o ordinance_n or_o appointment_n he_o mean_v of_o government_n which_o be_v now_o in_o the_o church_n what_o will_v he_o make_v of_o bishop_n jewel_n tell_v harding_n in_o his_o defence_n against_o he_o that_o in_o call_v it_o a_o haerefie_n to_o affirm_v bishop_n and_o presbyter_n to_o be_v one_o he_o reflect_v upon_o jerome_n and_o other_o father_n who_o he_o cite_v against_o he_o yea_o upon_o the_o apostle_n paul_n and_o make_v he_o also_o a_o haeretick_n what_o will_n he_o make_v of_o that_o assertion_n of_o beza_n episcopus_fw-la papam_fw-la peperit_fw-la the_o bishop_n bring_v forth_o the_o pope_n of_o whittaker_n that_o the_o set_n up_o the_o prelate_n yea_o the_o first_o proestos_fw-la or_o precedent_n to_o prevent_v schism_n be_v a_o remedy_n worse_o than_o the_o disease_n now_o if_o he_o will_v reconcile_v these_o say_n and_o assertion_n with_o their_o hold_a bishop_n distinct_a from_o presbyter_n to_o have_v be_v in_o and_o from_o the_o time_n of_o the_o apostle_n he_o will_v prove_v a_o wonderful_a oedipus_n but_o our_o informer_n have_v not_o yet_o do_v with_o these_o author_n and_o have_v another_o reflection_n upon_o they_o anent_o what_o they_o say_v page_n 64._o that_o eusebius_n and_o iraeneus_n be_v deceive_v themselves_o &_o deceive_v other_o he_o tell_v we_o 1._o they_o be_v hard_o put_v to_o it_o when_o seek_v to_o relieve_v themselves_o by_o discredit_v these_o authores_fw-la but_o this_o man_n be_v hard_o put_v to_o it_o if_o he_o deny_v that_o which_o be_v so_o noto●…ly_o true_a &_o make_v good_a by_o so_o many_o of_o the_o learned_a be_v junius_n and_o scalliger_n who_o be_v approve_v herein_o by_o dr_n reynolds_n hard_o put_v to_o it_o who_o demonstrat_n eusebius_n gross_a error_n &_o mistake_n 2._o he_o say_v though_o in_o some_o thing_n eusebius_n be_v mistake_v most_o he_o be_v so_o in_o every_o point_n wherein_o he_o make_v bishop_n superior_a to_o presbyter_n &_o draw_v their_o succession_n from_o the_o apostle_n ans._n for_o the_o catalogue_n of_o bishop_n from_o the_o apostle_n we_o speak_v to_o it_o already_o and_o for_o eusebius_n speak_v always_o in_o that_o strain_n the_o reverend_a author_n of_o that_o piece_n with_o other_o do_v tell_v the_o informer_n that_o all_o that_o eusebius_n say_v be_v that_o it_o be_v report_v that_o his_o learned_a censurer_n scalliger_n make_v it_o appear_v that_o he_o read_v ancient_a history_n parum_fw-la attente_fw-la not_o attentiu_o &_o that_o he_o take_v his_o measure_n in_o this_o point_n &_o his_o relation_n upon_o trust_n from_o clemens_n fabulus_fw-la &_o hegesippus_n not_o extant_a 3._o the_o informer_n think_v it_o strange_a that_o they_o can_v suppose_v irenaeus_n johns_n contemporarie_a and_o disciple_n to_o be_v deceive_v as_o to_o church_n government_n answer_n have_v he_o but_o look_v upon_o the_o 4._o
proposition_n of_o their_o appendix_n he_o may_v have_v see_v this_o objection_n full_o remove_v for_o therein_o they_o make_v good_a from_o many_o place_n of_o irenaeus_n which_o be_v tedious_a here_o to_o transcribe_v that_o by_o bishop_n he_o understand_v mere_a presbyter_n and_o not_o bishop_n distinct_a from_o presbyter_n from_o which_o place_n of_o irenaeus_n they_o collect_v 1._o that_o he_o call_v presbyter_n successor_n of_o the_o apostle_n 2._o that_o he_o call_v they_o bishop_n 3._o that_o he_o hold_v the_o apostolic_a doctrine_n to_o be_v derive_v by_o their_o succession_n 4._o that_o what_o in_o one_o place_n he_o say_v of_o bishop_n the_o same_o he_o say_v elsewhere_o of_o presbyter_n which_o sense_n and_o account_v of_o he_o they_o back_o with_o pregnant_a testimony_n of_o dr._n reynolds_n &_o whittaker_n &_o other_o learned_a protestant_n divine_v and_o light_n in_o that_o church_n and_o in_o proposition_n 7._o anent_o the_o pretend_a succession_n of_o prelate_n from_o the_o apostolic_a time_n they_o clear_v it_o that_o these_o succession_n be_v draw_v from_o mere_a presbyter_n viz_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o the_o minister_n first_o ordain_v as_o among_o the_o athenian_n their_o be_v 9_o archontes_n or_o chief_a ruler_n equal_a in_o authority_n yet_o the_o succession_n of_o governor_n in_o athens_n be_v derive_v from_o one_o of_o they_o who_o be_v the_o first_o archo●…_n ut_fw-la compendiosior_fw-la ac_fw-la minus_fw-la impedita_fw-la esset_fw-la temporum_fw-la enumeratio_fw-la that_o the_o calculation_n of_o time_n may_v not_o be_v hinder_v but_o be_v the_o more_o compendious_a 4._o he_o say_v it_o be_v more_o likly_a that_o jerom_n be_v deceive_v if_o we_o understand_v he_o to_o speak_v of_o bishop_n who_o be_v introduce_v after_o the_o apostle_n time_n then_o eusebius_n or_o irenaeus_n who_o live_v before_o ans._n that_o eusebius_n be_v deceive_v be_v not_o only_o allege_v but_o prove_v by_o the_o learned_a and_o jerom_n prove_v so_o clear_o from_o scripture_n the_o identity_n of_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n both_o in_o name_n and_o thing_n do_v convince_a lie_n infer_v that_o the_o bishop_n set_v over_o presbyter_n be_v discrepant_a from_o the_o scripture_n pattern_n that_o irenaeus_n by_o bishop_n understand_v these_o first_o moderator_n be_v make_v good_a from_o his_o write_n next_o whereas_o these_o reverend_a authores_fw-la pag._n 114_o 115._o say_v that_o irenaeus_n by_o bishop_n mean_v presbyter_n and_o page_n 65._o that_o the_o father_n speak_v of_o church_n officer_n of_o former_a time_n after_o the_o stile_n of_o their_o own_o and_o that_o the_o bishop_n in_o the_o catalogue_n be_v only_o the_o first_o ordain_v presbyter_n for_o the_o more_o expedit_fw-la reckon_v this_o man_n think_v these_o answer_n inconsistent_a because_o 1._o they_o say_v that_o eusebius_n &_o irenaeus_n be_v deceive_v when_o they_o speak_v of_o bishop_n and_o next_o that_o by_o bishop_n irenaeus_n mean_v only_a presbyter_n ans._n have_v the_o informer_n attend_v better_v the_o place_n he_o point_v at_o he_o will_v have_v keepd_v off_o this_o fantastic_a reflection_n for_o they_o show_v that_o these_o first_o proestotes_n or_o moderator_n who_o be_v in_o themselves_o and_o upon_o the_o mater_n mere_a presbyter_n be_v by_o former_a time_n and_o writer_n present_v under_o one_fw-mi episcopal_a notion_n and_o the_o power_n of_o bishop_n then_o prevalent_a unto_o eusebius_n and_o irenaeus_n who_o eusebius_n especial_o too_o credulous_o follow_v in_o his_o character_n and_o account_n of_o they_o occasion_v the_o deceive_v of_o other_o and_o that_o he_o and_o irenaeus_n speak_v of_o they_o in_o that_o manner_n and_o stile_n in_o the_o catalogue_n may_v deceive_v other_o by_o name_v they_o so_o who_o be_v upon_o the_o mater_fw-la mere_a presbyter_n who_o the_o succeed_a writer_n follow_v as_o they_o show_v out_o of_o junius_n contr._n 2._o ch_z 5._o not_o 18._o and_o fancy_v to_o themselves_o such_o bishop_n as_o then_o have_v obtain_v fall_v into_o these_o snare_n of_o tradition_n because_o they_o suppose_v that_o according_a to_o the_o custom_n of_o their_o time_n there_o can_v be_v but_o one_o bishop_n in_o a_o church_n at_o the_o same_o time_n and_o to_o clear_v it_o that_o the_o person_n who_o irenaeus_n speak_v of_o be_v upon_o the_o mater_fw-la presbyter_n in_o answer_n to_o that_o objection_n from_o irenaeus_n lib_n 3._o cap._n 3._o where_o bishop_n be_v name_v as_o set_v up_o by_o the_o apostle_n they_o answer_v that_o the_o word_n bishop_n have_v a_o various_a acceptation_n and_o that_o irenaeus_n name_v anicetus_n higinus_n pius_n presbyter_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n the_o word_n be_v then_o promiscuouslie_o use_v so_o that_o whatever_o impression_n irenaeus_n may_v have_v of_o they_o according_a to_o the_o language_n and_o custom_n of_o the_o time_n yet_o upon_o the_o matter_n they_o be_v presbyter_n only_o and_o therefore_o they_o put_v the_o episcopal_a party_n to_o prove_v that_o those_o who_o they_o name_v bishop_n be_v very_fw-la nominis_fw-la episcopi_fw-la or_o hierarchicall_a bishop_n they_o do_v not_o speak_v so_o much_o of_o the_o impression_n which_o irenaeus_n or_o eusebius_n have_v of_o they_o as_o of_o the_o true_a nature_n and_o state_n of_o these_o church-officer_n who_o according_a to_o the_o custom_n of_o their_o time_n they_o call_v bishop_n by_o irenaeus_n his_o call_v they_o sometime_o presbyter_n according_a to_o the_o promiscuous_a use_n of_o the_o name_n even_o hand_v down_o to_o he_o they_o prove_v that_o his_o express_v they_o under_o one_fw-mi episcopal_a notion_n then_o receive_v or_o any_o such_o impression_n of_o they_o which_o he_o may_v entertain_v be_v wrong_v since_o according_a to_o the_o scripture_n language_n the_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n import_v no_o other_o office_n than_o a_o pastor_n what_o inconsistency_n will_v our_o informer_n show_v in_o this_o that_o irenaeus_n and_o other_o be_v deceive_v in_o represent_v the_o first_o proestotes_n under_o one_fw-mi episcopal_a notion_n upon_o a_o credulous_a report_n from_o their_o forefather_n and_o yet_o that_o the_o person_n who_o they_o thus_o represent_v be_v upon_o the_o mater_fw-la presbyter_n as_o for_o what_o he_o add_v p._n 102_o from_o bucer_n de_fw-la animarum_fw-la cura_fw-la anent_o a_o proestos_fw-la or_o the_o election_n and_o ordination_n of_o one_o who_o go_v before_o the_o rest_n and_o have_v the_o episcopal_a ministry_n in_o the_o chief_a degree_n even_o in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o apostle_n by_o the_o testimony_n of_o tertullian_n cyprian_n irenaeus_n eusebius_n ancient_a than_o jerom_n we_o say_v that_o any_o who_o know_v bucers_n judgement_n in_o church_n government_n and_o be_v acquaint_v with_o his_o write_n thereanent_a will_v acknowledge_v that_o the_o proestos_fw-la be_v the_o utmost_a length_n he_o go_v as_o to_o episcopacy_n and_o a_o proestos_fw-la during_o life_n have_v no_o doubt_n something_o of_o one_fw-mi episcopal_a ministry_n and_o be_v above_o his_o brethren_n and_o we_o be_v to_o expone_fw-la his_fw-la summus_fw-la gradus_fw-la or_o chief_a degree_n by_o the_o word_n praecipue_fw-la or_o chief_o that_o go_v before_o who_o will_v doubt_v but_o the_o constant_a fix_v proestos_fw-la be_v in_o so_o far_o set_v over_o the_o rest_n but_o here_o we_o must_v mind_v the_o informer_n of_o two_o thing_n 1._o that_o this_o proestos_fw-la choose_v by_o the_o presbytery_n be_v as_o we_o say_v far_o short_a of_o the_o diocesian_a prelate_n who_o own_v no_o presbyter_n in_o his_o election_n &_o have_v one_fw-mi arbitrary_a power_n over_o they_o 2._o that_o it_o be_v thus_o defacto_fw-la be_v far_o from_o amount_v to_o a_o proof_n of_o the_o jus_o and_o who_o will_v say_v that_o bucer_n can_v take_v the_o apostle_n james_n to_o be_v formalie_n bishop_n of_o jerusalem_n or_o choose_v to_o be_v a_o fix_a moderator_n by_o presbyter_n who_o apostolic_a office_n both_o bucer_n and_o the_o informer_n will_v acknowledge_v to_o have_v reach_v the_o whole_a world_n in_o relation_n to_o the_o water_v &_o plant_v of_o church_n next_o if_o these_o word_n will_v plead_v for_o a_o hierarchy_n even_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n and_o that_o bucer_n take_v upon_o the_o testimony_n of_o tertullian_n irenaeus_n &c_n &c_n the_o apostle_n james_n and_o other_o for_o hierarchicall_a bishop_n sure_o he_o be_v oblige_v to_o have_v take_v notice_n of_o jeroms_n proof_n for_o the_o parity_n of_o bishop_n &_o presbyter_n in_o the_o apostle_n time_n which_o since_o he_o do_v not_o it_o be_v most_o probable_a that_o he_o mean_v to_o assert_v the_o factum_fw-la only_o of_o exalt_v presbyter_n to_o such_o a_o degree_n at_o that_o time_n but_o not_o the_o jus_o as_o be_v say_v else_o i_o see_v no_o consistencie_n in_o the_o word_n if_o he_o reckon_v the_o apostle_n james_n in_o this_o account_n for_o he_o say_v apostolorum_fw-la temporibus_fw-la unus_fw-la ex_fw-la presbyteris_fw-la electus_fw-la that_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n one_o be_v choose_v from_o among_o the_o presbyter_n
now_o sure_o the_o apostle_n james_n be_v not_o of_o the_o presbyter_n mere_o or_o choose_v from_o among_o they_o but_o to_o undeceave_v our_o informer_n as_o to_o bucers_n judgement_n in_o this_o point_n and_o to_o fortify_v the_o answer_n adduce_v i_o shall_v present_v unto_o he_o that_o which_o bucer_n assert_n de_n gub_n eccles_n p_o 432._o viz_o that_o the_o father_n call_v these_o first_o proestotes_n or_o moderator_n yea_o even_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o bishop_n n._n b._n in_o a_o large_a &_o general_a appellation_n because_o they_o first_o preach_v the_o gospel_n to_o those_o church_n and_o that_o to_o prove_v a_o succession_n of_o the_o true_a doctrine_n they_o name_v the_o most_o eminent_a minister_n the_o bishop_n to_o show_v that_o there_o be_v in_o these_o church_n a_o constant_a tract_n from_o the_o apostle_n both_o of_o sound_a doctrine_n &_o faithful_a teacher_n thereof_o eminent_a i_o say_v for_o gift_n and_o zeal_n or_o suffer_v for_o the_o gospel_n n._n b._n not_o in_o any_o episcopal_a authority_n except_o what_o be_v in_o that_o prostasie_n often_o mention_v now_o whither_o bucer_n be_v for_o one_fw-mi episcopacy_n in_o the_o high_a degree_n even_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n and_o the_o episcopacy_n of_o james_n let_v any_o judge_n and_o whither_o or_o not_o this_o informer_n have_v acquitt_v prelacy_n of_o be_v both_o a_o groundless_a and_o godless_a usurpation_n in_o god_n church_n as_o his_o now_o prosyleted_a doubter_n say_v he_o be_v teach_v to_o call_v it_o the_o appeal_n be_v likwayes_o make_v to_o the_o judicious_a and_o impartial_a to_o judge_v from_o what_o be_v offer_v from_o the_o begin_n hereanent_a chap._n xv._n mr_n durham_n citation_n of_o the_o father_n for_o evince_v the_o identity_n of_o angel_n bishop_n and_o presbyter_n vindicat_fw-la from_o the_o exception_n of_o this_o informer_n mr_n durhame_n in_o his_o excellent_a commentary_n upon_o the_o revelation_n pag._n 223._o have_v go_v throw_v the_o epistle_n and_o embrace_v the_o sylleptick_a sense_n and_o acceptation_n of_o the_o word_n angel_n present_v in_o a_o digression_n several_a weighty_a and_o unanswerable_a argument_n both_o from_o these_o epistle_n and_o parallel_v text_n to_o prove_v the_o identity_n of_o angel_n bishop_n and_o presbyter_n which_o this_o informer_n pass_v over_o sicco_fw-it pede_fw-la find_v they_o no_o doubt_n pill_n of_o too_o hard_a a_o digestion_n for_o his_o stomach_n but_o mr._n durham_n add_v to_o his_o scriptureproofe_n of_o this_o important_a truth_n several_a clear_a testimony_n of_o most_o eminent_a ancient_a father_n assert_v the_o very_a same_o thing_n than_o seria_n res_fw-la agitur_fw-la with_o our_o informer_n and_o he_o bestirr_v himself_o amain_o to_o take_v these_o weapon_n out_o of_o mr_n durham_n hand_n offer_v several_a exception_n against_o his_o testimony_n which_o in_o vindication_n of_o the_o memory_n of_o so_o great_a a_o seer_n from_o this_o pampleter_n imputation_n and_o for_o the_o more_o full_a confirmation_n of_o this_o truth_n we_o shall_v now_o examine_v and_o repel_v mr_n durhame_n say_v that_o not_o only_a jerome_n but_o likewise_o other_o of_o the_o ancient_n such_o as_o augustin_n ambrose_n chrysostom_n be_v of_o aerius_n mind_n hereanent_fw-la to_o this_o he_o answer_v that_o mr_n durhame_n bring_v this_o as_o medina_n assertion_n as_o he_o be_v cite_v by_o bellarmin_n but_o know_v he_o not_o that_o medina_n be_v cite_v for_o this_o by_o many_o other_o as_o dr_n reynolds_n particular_o and_o likewise_o why_o will_v he_o not_o examine_v these_o ancient_n cite_v by_o medina_n and_o examine_v what_o truth_n be_v in_o his_o citation_n if_o he_o intend_v to_o repel_v this_o testimony_n well_o but_o what_o say_v our_o informer_n to_o these_o testimony_n offer_v by_o mr_n durhame_n he_o answer_v 1._o that_o though_o these_o father_n be_v of_o jeroms_n mind_n i●…is_fw-la n●…_n great_a prejudice_n that_o will_v hence_o ensue_v to_o bishop_n as_o he_o hat●…_n already_o clear_v ans._n we_o have_v make_v it_o appear_v tha●…_n jerome_n make_v the_o first_o bishop_n mere_a fix_a moderator_n and_o likewise_o one_fw-mi humane_a invention_n or_o custom_n discrepant_a from_o ihe_n first_o divine_a bishop_n who_o be_v prove_v by_o he_o to_o be_v in_o scripture_n the_o same_o with_o presbyter_n and_o i●…_n this_o be_v no_o prejudice_n to_o his_o diocesian_a prelate_n with_o sole_a power_n of_o ordination_n and_o jurisdiction_n let_v any_o judge_n 2._o the_o informer_n wonder_v how_o mr_n durhame_n coul●…_n cite_v augusti●…_n as_o of_o aerius_n mind_n since_o augustine_n hold_v he_o to_o be_v erroneous_a upon_o this_o ground_n haeres_fw-la 53._o a●…s_n why_o do_v he_o not_o answer_v to_o that_o passage_n of_o augusti●…_n cite_v by_o mr._n durhame_n as_o he_o pretend_v to_o answer_v to_o som●…_n of_o the_o rest_n of_o these_o father_n what_o say_v he_o to_o augustin●…_n word_n be_v they_o not_o he_o or_o do_v they_o not_o clear_o assert_v the_o identity_n of_o bishop_n &_o presbyter_n to_o say_v that_o augustin_n account_v aerius_n a_o heretic_n for_o this_o while_o he_o offer_v not_o to_o remove_v augustins_n clear_a assertion_n of_o the_o same_o thing_n be_v but_o to_o set_v he_o by_o the_o ear_n with_o himself_o not_o to_o answer_v his_o testimony_n next_o as_o for_o augustin_n account_v aerius_n a_o heretic_n for_o this_o he_o shall_v know_v that_o the_o learned_a do_v consent_v that_o augustin_n in_o this_o follow_v epiphanius_n who_o first_o impute_v heresy_n to_o aerius_n and_o make_v but_o very_o simple-insipid_a answer_n to_o aerius_n argument_n for_o his_o opinion_n and_o moreover_o that_o augustin_n relate_v his_o opinion_n anent_o the_o parity_n of_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n or_o rather_o his_o deny_v that_o their_o ought_v to_o be_v one_fw-mi ecclesiastic_a constitution_n anent_o their_o difference_n as_o that_o which_o epiphanius_n put_v among_o the_o roll_n of_o heresy_n himself_o not_o positive_o determine_v that_o this_o be_v a_o heresy_n for_o as_o be_v consent_v unto_o by_o the_o learned_a and_o particular_o by_o dr._n reinolds_n in_o his_o letter_n to_o sir_n francis_n knoll_v touch_v dr._n bancroft_n sermon_n about_o the_o difference_n betwixt_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n augustin_n aknowledge_v himself_o ignorant_a how_o far_o the_o definition_n of_o heresy_n do_v extend_v he_o enumerat_o the_o heresy_n which_o he_o find_v note_v by_o other_o writer_n but_o apply_v not_o the_o definition_n of_o heresy_n to_o every_o one_o of_o they_o far_o less_o can_v he_o do_v so_o in_o this_o point_n which_o be_v his_o own_o judgement_n as_o the_o passage_n cite_v by_o mr._n durham_n do_v evince_v that_o jerom_n and_o augustin_n be_v of_o aerius_n mind_n as_o to_o bishop_n be_v the_o judgement_n of_o very_a many_o sane_fw-la cum_fw-la aerio_fw-la sensit_fw-la hieronimus_fw-la say_v whittak_n contr._n 4._o q._n 1._o cap._n 3._o sect._n 30._o jerom_n true_o be_v of_o aerius_n mind_n on_o which_o ground_n we_o need_v care_v the_o less_o that_o aerius_n be_v so_o oft_o object_v to_o we_o by_o blockish_a man_n see_v how_o rude_a whittaker_n be_v again_o to_o our_o informer_n saravia_n himself_o the_o grad_n cap._n 23._o acknowledge_v that_o jerom_n dissent_v from_o epiphanius_n in_o this_o dr._n reynolds_n in_o that_o epistle_n to_o knoll_v about_o bancroft_n sermon_n assert_v with_o the_o informer_n that_o aerius_n be_v for_o his_o opinion_n condemn_v of_o heresy_n by_o the_o whole_a church_n prove_n from_o jerom_n and_o other_o writter_n who_o be_v contemporarie_a with_o epiphanius_n or_o flourish_v after_o he_o that_o augustin_n present_v that_o assertion_n anent_o the_o identite_n of_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n a●…_n heretical_a only_o as_o he_o find_v it_o relate_v by_o epiphanius_n whereas_o himself_o know_v not_o how_o far_o the_o name_n of_o heresy_n be_v to_o be_v extend_v as_o he_o testefy_v in_o his_o preface_n concern_v heresy_n but_o that_o augustin_n himself_o be_v of_o the_o judgement_n that_o by_o divine_a right_n there_o be_v no_o difference_n betwixt_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n he_o prove_v from_o his_o word_n epist._n 19_o he_o cite_v also_o jewel_n against_o harding_n the_o jesuit_n assert_v likewise_o with_o the_o informer_n that_o aerius_n be_v condemn_v for_o his_o opinion_n as_o a_o heretic_n who_o prove_v that_o jerome_n augustin_n ambrose_n be_v of_o the_o same_o mind_n thus_o we_o see_v augustin_n make_v in_o this_o point_n consistent_a with_o jerome_n &_o also_o with_o himself_o who_o this_o man_n make_v to_o speak_v contradiction_n so_o as_o he_o may_v come_v fair_a off_o 3._o he_o answer_v that_o ambrose_n and_o chrysostoms_n testimony_n will_v not_o come_v mr._n durham_n length_n because_o though_o ambrose_n or_o one_o hilary_n say_v that_o episcopi_fw-la &_o presbyteri_fw-la una_fw-la est_fw-la ordinatio_fw-la that_o they_o be_v both_o priest_n yet_o the_o bishop_n be_v the_o first_o so_o that_o every_o priest_n be_v not_o a_o bishop_n for_o the_o bishop_n be_v the_o first_o priest_n
solemn_o consecrat_v by_o their_o fellow_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o their_o new_a episcopal_a order_n in_o a_o word_n we_o hear_v from_o cassander_n that_o the_o canonist_n and_o theologue_n who_o dispute_v this_o question_n do_v both_o accord_n that_o as_o to_o a_o jus_o divinum_fw-la or_o divine_a right_n there_o be_v no_o difference_n betwixt_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n either_o in_o order_n or_o degree_n and_o so_o though_o it_o be_v grant_v which_o yet_o the_o informer_n himself_o dare_v not_o positive_o assert_v that_o the_o father_n toss_v this_o question_n it_o will_v nothing_o help_v he_o nor_o prejudge_v mr_n durham_n quotation_n which_o speak_v of_o a_o jus_o divinum_fw-la as_o for_o what_o he_o add_v that_o the_o father_n cite_v by_o medina_n may_v hold_v the_o same_o notion_n let_v he_o hear_v how_o bellarmin_n no_o friend_n to_o presbyterian_a government_n represent_v his_o assertion_n the_o cler._n cap_n 15._o michael_n medina_n lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr sacrorum_fw-la hominum_fw-la origine_fw-la &_o eminentia_fw-la cap._n 5._o affirmat_fw-la sanctum_fw-la hieronimum_fw-la idem_fw-la omnino_fw-la cum_fw-la aerianis_fw-la sensisse_fw-la neque_fw-la solum_fw-la hieronimum_fw-la in_o ea_fw-la haeresi_fw-la fuisse_fw-la sed_fw-la etiam_fw-la ambrosium_fw-la sedulium_n primasium_n chrysostomum_n theodoretum_n oecumenium_n &_o theophylactum_n atque_fw-la ita_fw-la inquit_fw-la medina_n isti_fw-la viri_fw-la alioqui_fw-la sanctissimi_fw-la &_o sacrarum_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la consultissimi_fw-la quorum_fw-la tamen_fw-la sententiam_fw-la prius_fw-la in_o aerio_fw-la deinde_fw-la in_o waldensibus_fw-la postremo_fw-la in_o joanne_n wickleffo_n damnavit_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la that_o be_v michael_n medina_n in_o the_o first_o book_n concern_v the_o original_n and_o eminency_n of_o sacred_a man_n 5._o chap._n affirm_v that_o st_n jerome_n be_v every_o way_n of_o the_o same_o judgement_n with_o the_o aerian_o and_o that_o not_o only_o i_o be_v in_o that_o heresy_n but_o also_o ambrose_n sedulius_n primasius_n chrysostom_n theodoret_n oecomenius_n and_o theophylact_fw-mi and_o thus_o say_v medina_n these_o man_n otherways_o most_o godly_a and_o most_o expert_a in_o the_o holy_a scrpture_n who_o judgement_n notwithstanding_o the_o church_n condemn_v first_o in_o aerius_n next_o in_o the_o waldeneses_n and_o last_o in_o john_n wickleff_n let_v our_o informer_n note_v here_o 1._o that_o it_o be_v beyond_o debate_n with_o bellarmin_n that_o with_o medina_n at_o least_o all_o these_o father_n be_v aerian_n 2._o that_o his_o holy_a catholic_n church_n of_o rome_n be_v the_o grand_a condemner_n of_o this_o heresy_n 3._o that_o this_o be_v one_o of_o the_o heresy_n of_o the_o old_a waldenses_n these_o famous_a witness_n against_o antichrist_n and_o of_o john_n wickleff_n and_o such_o like_a eminent_a reformer_n afterwards_o he_o add_v that_o in_o jerome_n and_o these_o greek_a father_n that_o opinion_n be_v of_o old_a dissemble_v out_o of_o reverence_n to_o they_o but_o contrary_o in_o the_o heretic_n always_o condemn_v so_o we_o see_v the_o presbyterian_a principle_n be_v with_o he_o one_o of_o the_o heresy_n of_o protestant_n peter_n swav_n in_o the_o history_n of_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n pag._n 664._o edit_n francfort_n relate_v that_o when_o the_o authority_n of_o jerom_n and_o augustin_n be_v bring_v to_o prove_v episcopacy_n to_o be_v but_o one_fw-mi ecclesiastic_a constitution_n michael_n medina_n answer_v that_o it_o be_v no_o wonder_n that_o jerom_n augustin_n and_o other_o of_o the_o father_n fall_v into_o that_o heresy_n not_o have_v thorough_o search_v the_o matter_n &_o that_o he_o maintain_v pro_fw-la virili_fw-la this_o to_o be_v their_o opinion_n final_o to_o make_v these_o father_n one_o with_o themselves_o who_o this_o man_n enforce_v in_o his_o next_o passage_n cite_v page_n 71_o 72._o anent_o the_o derivation_n of_o episcopacy_n from_o the_o apostle_n and_o high_a to_o speak_v palpable_a contradiction_n we_o must_v say_v with_o whittaker_n that_o they_o call_v the_o apostle_n so_o because_o they_o do_v that_o upon_o the_o matter_n which_o bishop_n then_o do_v and_o because_o their_o power_n quadam_fw-la similitudine_fw-la or_o by_o a_o certain_a similitude_n or_o likeness_n as_o junius_n express_v it_o be_v like_a to_o that_o of_o these_o extraordinary_a church_n officer_n who_o notwithstanding_o they_o can_v not_o succeed_v in_o the_o same_o office_n nor_o can_v these_o father_n think_v so_o upon_o the_o ground_n former_o mention_v tilen_v in_o his_o specul_n antichr_n ortum_fw-la aperiens_fw-la aphoris_n 88_o tell_v we_o that_o episcopos_fw-la &_o presbyteros_fw-la re_fw-la &_o nomine_fw-la eosdem_fw-la fuisse_fw-la non_fw-la hieronimus_fw-la solum_fw-la in_o 1._o tim._n 3._o sed_fw-la etiam_fw-la scriptura_fw-la perspicue_n docet_fw-la tit._n 1._o act._n 20._o phil._n 1._o proinde_fw-la humani_fw-la instituti_fw-la sive_fw-la positivi_fw-la ut_fw-la vocant_fw-la juris_fw-la est_fw-la illa_fw-la sub_fw-la diversis_fw-la nominibus_fw-la munerum_fw-la distinctio_fw-la that_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n be_v the_o same_o in_o name_n and_o thing_n or_o office_n not_o only_o jerome_n on_o 1._o tim._n 3._o but_o the_o scripture_n also_o do_v evident_o teach_v tit._n 1._o act._n 20._o phil._n 1._o and_o therefore_o that_o distinction_n of_o the_o office_n under_o diverse_a name_n be_v of_o human_a institution_n as_o they_o call_v it_o or_o of_o positive_a right_n a_o fit_a lookingglass_n this_o have_v no_o doubt_n be_v to_o the_o same_o tilen_v when_o he_o write_v his_o paraenesis_n and_o change_v his_o note_n and_o likewise_o it_o be_v a_o fit_a look_a glass_n for_o this_o informer_n chap._n xvi_o the_o harmonious_a consent_n of_o ancient_a father_n modern_a divine_n and_o confession_n of_o reform_a church_n for_o presbyterian_a government_n in_o all_o its_o essential_a point_n of_o difference_n from_o prelacy_n be_v exhibit_v it_o be_v clear_a that_o presbyterian_a government_n the_o pure_a ancient_a and_o genuine_a government_n of_o this_o church_n in_o every_o essential_a ingredient_n of_o it_o as_o it_o stand_v in_o opposition_n to_o prelacy_n be_v approve_v by_o such_o a_o consent_n of_o antiquity_n and_o modern_a divine_n that_o it_o will_v take_v up_o almost_o as_o much_o room_n as_o this_o informer_n pamphlet_n to_o reckon_v up_o their_o name_n that_o we_o may_v present_v they_o in_o 〈◊〉_d compendious_a view_n take_v it_o thus_o 1._o that_o jure_fw-la divino_fw-la there_o be_v no_o difference_n betwixt_o a_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n have_v a_o very_a large_a consent_n of_o antiquity_n collect_v by_o many_o of_o the_o learned_a who_o testimony_n we_o may_v see_v in_o bishop_n jewel_n against_o hardin_n edit_n ann._n 1570._o p._n 243._o and_o reynolds_n in_o the_o forementioned_a epistle_n at_o large_a cite_v petry_n hist._n part_n 3._o p_o 469_o 470_o 471._o where_o there_o be_v exhibit_v a_o full_a consent_n both_o of_o the_o greek_a and_o latin_a father_n for_o this_o point_n of_o truth_n the_o doctor_n in_o his_o conference_n with_o hart_n hold_v that_o the_o precedent_n choose_v out_o at_o first_o to_o moderate_a be_v be_v who_o afterward_o the_o father_n call_v bishop_n and_o that_o the_o name_n bishop_n common_a to_o all_o minister_n be_v by_o they_o thus_o appropriate_v to_o this_o precedent_n next_o for_o modern_a writer_n the_o same_o dr_n reynolds_n tell_v we_o in_o the_o formentioned_a epistle_n that_o those_o who_o have_v labour_v about_o the_o reform_n of_o the_o church_n these_o 500_o year_n have_v teach_v that_o all_o pastor_n be_v they_o entitle_v bishop_n or_o priest_n have_v equal_a authority_n and_o power_n by_o god_n word_n cite_v the_o waldenses_n in_o aen._n silu._n hift_n of_o bohem._n chap._n 35._o pitch_n hierarch_n ecclesiast_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 10._o marsil_n patavin_n defence_n pacis_fw-la part_n 2._o cap._n 15._o wickleff_n in_o thom._n walden_n doct._n fil._n tom._n 1._o lib_n 2._o cap._n 60._o and_o tom_n 2._o cap_n 7._o and_o his_o scholar_n husse_v and_o the_o hussit_n aeneas_z silvius_z loccit_fw-la luther_n advers._fw-la falso_fw-la nomin_v scot_n epise_v &_o adversus_fw-la papat_fw-la rom._n calv._n in_o epist._n ad_fw-la phil._n tit._n 1._o erentius_fw-la apolog._n confess_v wittenberg_n cap._n 21_o bulinger_n decad._n 5._o serm_v 3._o musculus_fw-la loc._n com_n tit_n de_fw-la ministerio_fw-la verbi_fw-la then_o he_o add_v jewel_n pilkington_n dr._n humphrey_n in_o campian_n &_o duraeum_n jesuit_n part._n 2._o ra●…_n 3._o whittak_n ad_fw-la rationes_fw-la campian_n 6._o &_o confut_n durae_fw-la like_o 6._o mr_n bradfoord_n lambert_n fox_n act._n mon._n fulk_n ansr._n to_o the_o rhemeflit_v to_o these_o may_v be_v add_v cartwright_n against_o the_o rhemist_n bishop_n bilson_n himself_o against_o seminartes_n lib._n 1._o p_o 318._o bishop_n morton_n in_o his_o catholic_n apology_n part._n 1._o cap._n 33._o erasmus_n upon_o 1_o tim._n 4._o to_o which_o add_v that_o in_o the_o o●…cumenick_n coun●…les_v of_o constance_n &_o basile_n it_o be_v conclude_v that_o presbyter_n shall_v have_v decisive_a suffrage_n in_o council_n as_o well_o as_o bishop_n because_o that_o by_o the_o law_n of_o god_n bishop_n be_v not_o great_a than_o
they_o and_o it_o be_v express_o give_v they_o act._n 15._o 23._o to_o which_o we_o may_v add_v the_o council_n aquisgravense_a sub_fw-la ludovico_n pio_n imperatore_n 1._o anno_fw-la 816._o which_o approve_v it_o for_o sound_a divinity_n out_o of_o scripture_n that_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n be_v equal_a bring_v the_o same_o text_n that_o aerius_n do_v to_o these_o mention_v the_o learned_a reynolds_n do_v add_v the_o common_a judgement_n of_o reform_a church_n viz._n helvetia_n savoy_n france_n scotland_n germany_n hungary_n poland_n the_o low_a country_n cite_v the_o harmony_n of_o confession_n yea_o their_o own_o church_n of_o england_n chap_n ii_o of_o the_o harmony_n thereafter_o he_o learned_o refute_v our_o informer_n as_o to_o what_o he_o say_v anent_o jeroms_n so_o often_o repeat_v a_o marco_n evangelista_n show_v both_o by_o the_o decree_n of_o the_o 4t_n council_n of_o carthage_n cap._n 3._o anent_o presbyter_n interest_n in_o ordination_n which_o say_v he_o prove_v that_o the_o bishop_n ordain_v not_o then_o alone_o in_o all_o place_n although_o jerom_n say_v quid_fw-la facit_fw-la excepta_fw-la ordinatione_fw-la &c_n &c_n and_o by_o jeroms_n prove_v bishop_n and_o presbyter_n to_o be_v all_o one_o in_o scripture_n and_o even_o in_o the_o right_n of_o ordination_n 1._o tim._n 4._o 14._o that_o jerom_o can_v not_o mean_a bishop_n in_o alexandria_n to_o have_v have_v that_o episcopal_a power_n since_o mark_n about_o which_o the_o question_n be_v where_o also_o he_o vindicat_o calvin_n jnstit_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 4._o c_o 4._o sect_n 2._o cite_v by_o bancroft_n as_o likwayes_o by_o our_o dialogist_n here_o as_o consent_v to_o the_o establishment_n of_o one_fw-mi episcopacy_n since_o mark_v at_o alexandria_n he_o say_v that_o calvin_n have_v show_v that_o minister_n choose_v out_o one_o to_o preside_v to_o who_o especial_o they_o give_v the_o name_n of_o bishop_n show_v that_o notwithstanding_o this_o bishop_n be_v not_o above_o they_o in_o honour_n and_o dignity_n that_o he_o shall_v rule_v over_o they_o but_o be_v appoint_v only_o to_o ask_v the_o vote_n to_o direct_v and_o admonish_v and_o see_v that_o perform_v which_o be_v agree_v upon_o by_o their_o common_a consent_n and_o have_v declare_v that_o jerom_n show_v this_o to_o have_v be_v in_o by_o the_o consent_n of_o man_n upon_o tit._n 1._o he_o add_v that_o the_o same_o jerom_n other_o where_o show_v how_o ancient_a one_fw-mi order_n in_o the_o church_n it_o be_v even_o from_o mark_n time_n to_o heraclius_n &c_n &c_n in_o which_o word_n of_o calvin_n say_v the_o doctor_n see_v that_o the_o order_n of_o the_o church_n which_o he_o mention_n have_v evident_a relation_n to_o that_o before_o describe_v and_o that_o in_o the_o describe_v of_o it_o he_o have_v say_v the_o bishop_n be_v not_o so_o above_o the_o rest_n in_o honour_n that_o he_o have_v rule_v over_o they_o it_o follow_v that_o mr._n calvin_n do_v not_o so_o much_o as_o seem_v to_o confess_v upon_o jeroms_n report_n that_o ever_n since_o mark_v time_n bishop_n have_v have_v a_o roll_a superiority_n over_o the_o clergy_n a_o contradictory_n conclusion_n to_o that_o of_o our_o informer_n the_o doctor_n proceed_v thus_o wherefore_o to_o use_v no_o more_o proof_n in_o a_o thing_n manifest_a which_o else_o may_v be_v easy_o prove_v more_o at_o large_a out_o of_o jerom_n and_o mr._n calvin_n both_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o neither_o of_o they_o do_v affirm_v that_o bishop_n so_o long_a time_n have_v have_v such_o a_o superiority_n as_o dr._n bancroft_n seem_v to_o father_n upon_o they_o to_o all_o this_o add_v that_o dr._n holland_n the_o king_n professor_n in_o oxford_n at_z one_fw-mi act_n jul_o 9_o 1608._o conclude_v against_o mr_n lane_n question_n a_o episcopatus_fw-la sit_fw-la ordo_fw-la distinctú_v a_o presbyteratu_fw-la eoque_fw-la superior_a jure_fw-la divino_fw-la that_o be_v whither_o episcopacy_n be_v a_o distinct_a order_n from_o the_o presbyterat_fw-la &_o superior_a thereunto_o by_o divine_a right_n that_o the_o affirmative_a be_v most_o false_a against_o the_o scripture_n father_n the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n yea_o the_o very_a schoolman_n themselves_o lombard_n thomas_n bonaventur_fw-la a_o second_o essential_a point_n of_o presbyterian_a government_n in_o opposition_n to_o prelacy_n be_v in_o the_o mater_fw-la of_o ordination_n and_o jurisdiction_n viz_o that_o these_o be_v not_o in_o the_o hand_n of_o any_o single_a prelate_n but_o that_o presbyter_n have_v one_fw-mi essential_a joint_a interest_n therein_o and_o this_o also_o have_v a_o large_a consent_n and_o testimony_n of_o the_o learned_a both_o ancient_a and_o modern_a for_o this_o the_o 4t_n council_n of_o carthage_n be_v adduce_v can._n 5._o and_o the_o council_n of_o constance_n and_o basile_n anent_o presbyter_n decisive_a suffrage_n in_o council_n cyprian_n epist._n 33._o and_o 78._o council_n of_o antioch_n can●…_n 10._o of_o aneyra_n can._n 13._o ruffian_n hist._n lib._n 10._o cap._n 9_o sozom_n l._n 2._o c._n 23._o and_o many_o such_o smectim_n pag._n 28_o 29_o 30_o 31._o cite_v many_o testimony_n for_o this_o see_v blondel_n apol._n sect._n 3._o pag._n 120._o to_o 130._o prins_n un-bish_a of_o timothy_n and_o titus_n from_o pag._n 52._o to_o 83._o where_o the_o full_a consent_n of_o reform_a divine_n be_v adduce_v such_o as_o joannes_n luckawit_v in_o his_o confession_n of_o the_o taborit_n against_o rokenzana_n cap_n 13._o the_o wald●…nses_n and_o taborit_n apud_fw-la fox_n act_n monum_fw-la p._n 210._o illyric_n catol_n testiumveritatis_fw-la tit._n waldenses_n 455._o melanchton_n arg._n &_o respon_n par_fw-fr 7._o de_fw-fr potest_fw-la episcopi_fw-la arg._n 2._o hiperius_fw-la on_o 1._o tim._n 4._o 14._o hemmingius_fw-la ibid._n gerardus_n loc._n theol._n de_fw-fr ministerio_fw-la ecclesiastico_fw-la prove_v this_o at_o large_a peizelius_fw-la arg._n &_o resp._n par._n 7._o de_fw-fr ordin_n ministrorum_fw-la in_o arg._n 1._o musculus_fw-la loc_n com._n de_fw-fr ministerio_fw-la verbi_fw-la morn●…y_o lord_n of_o pless_n de_fw-fr eccles._n cap_n 11._o nay_o canonist_n and_o schoolman_n themselves_o summa_fw-la angelica_fw-la ordo_fw-la sect_n 13._o and_o innocentius_n there_o cite_v filiu●…ius_fw-la jesuit_n de_fw-la casibus_fw-la consc._n par._n 1._o tract_n 9_o alexander_n alensis_n sum._n theol._n par_fw-fr 4._o quest._n 9_o m._n 5._o artic._n 1._o cajetan_n on_o 1._o tim._n 4._o 14._o and_o many_o other_o likewise_o it_o be_v make_v good_a that_o the_o bishop_n swallow_v up_o this_o power_n of_o presbyter_n and_o reserve_v it_o only_o to_o himself_o come_v from_o popish_a authority_n leo_fw-la primus_fw-la epist._n ●…8_n on_o complaint_n of_o unlawful_a ordination_n write_v to_o the_o german_a and_o french_a bishop_n reckon_v up_o what_o thing_n be_v reserve_v to_o the_o bishop_n and_o among_o the_o rest_n presbyterorum_fw-la &_o diaconorum_fw-la consecratio_fw-la the_o consecration_n of_o presbyter_n and_o deacons_n then_o add_v quae_fw-la omne_fw-la solis_fw-la deberi_fw-la summis_fw-la pontificibus_fw-la authoritate_fw-la canonum_fw-la praecipitur_fw-la that_o be_v all_o which_o thing_n be_v command_v to_o be_v reserve_v to_o the_o chief_a priest_n by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o canon_n for_o this_o see_v also_o rabanus_n maurus_n de_fw-fr instit._fw-la clericorum_fw-la l._n 1._o c._n 6._o and_o to_o this_o truth_n of_o presbyter_n power_n in_o ordination_n the_o confession_n of_o reform_a church_n give_v a_o harmonious_a echo_n the_o latter_a confession_n of_o helvetia_n harmon_n of_o confess_v chap._n 11._o pag_n 232._o assert_v that_o the_o holy_a function_n of_o the_o ministry_n be_v givin●…_n the_o lay_v on_o of_o the_o hand_n of_o presbyter_n no_o word_n of_o pre_n lat_n hand_n so_o the_o 18._o chap_n pag._n 236._o they_o be_v to_o be_v ordain_v by_o public_a prayer_n and_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n which_o power_n they_o say_v be_v the_o same_o and_o alike_o in_o all_o cite_v that_o passage_n luke_n 10._o he_o that_o will_v be_v great_a among_o you_o let_v he_o be_v your_o servant_n so_o act._n 15._o and_o jerom_n on_o tit._n 1._o therefore_o say_v they_o let_v no_o man_n forbid_v that_o we_o return_v to_o the_o old_a appointment_n of_o god_n so_o they_o call_v the_o presbyterian_a way_n of_o ordination_n and_o rather_o receive_v it_o then_o the_o custom_n devise_v by_o man_n so_o they_o call_v the_o episcopal_a method_n thus_o the_o confession_n of_o bohem._n chap._n 9_o harm_n sect_n 11_o pag._n 246._o 247._o after_o set_v down_o the_o qualification_n of_o minister_n as_o to_o ordination_n they_o say_v that_o after_o prayer_n and_o fast_v they_o be_v to_o be_v confirm_v and_o approve_v of_o the_o elder_n by_o the_o lay_n on_o of_o their_o hand_n so_o the_o confess_v sax_n chap_n 12._o harm_n conf_n par_fw-fr 2._o affirm_v that_o it_o belong_v to_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n to_o ordain_v minister_n lawful_o elect_v and_o call_v where_o we_o have_v assert_v both_o the_o presbyter_n power_n in_o ordination_n and_o the_o people_n interest_n in_o the_o call_v of_o pastor_n in_o
thing_n be_v so_o fresh_a &_o recent_a 3._o that_o discipline_n which_o the_o taker_n and_o framer_n of_o this_o cou●…nant_n at_o the_o take_n of_o it_o and_o in_o pursuance_n of_o its_o end_n do_v carry_v on_o and_o establish_v that_o discipline_n it_o must_v needs_o include_v and_o engage_v unto_o in_o their_o sense_n but_o that_o be_v presbyterian-government_n for_o to_o omit_v many_o precede_a discovery_n heirof_o mention_v in_o the_o apology_n in_o the_o year_n 1580._o the_o assembly_n after_o their_o judicial_a declarator_n that_o prelacy_n be_v contrary_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n send_v commissioner_n to_o the_o king_n to_o desire_v the_o establishment_n of_o the_o book_n of_o policy_n by_o one_fw-mi act_n of_o council_n until_o a_o parliament_n be_v convene_v and_o what_o this_o book_n of_o policy_n contain_v we_o do_v already_o hint_n then_o in_o this_o same_o year_n the_o national_a covenant_n and_o confession_n be_v swear_v by_o the_o king_n and_o council_n in_o the_o assembly_n 1581._o it_o be_v subscribe_v by_o all_o the_o member_n and_o the_o act_n of_o the_o assembly_n at_o dundie_n explain_v and_o it_o be_v again_o judicial_o declare_v that_o the_o church_n do_v thereby_o whole_o condemn_v the_o estate_n of_o bishop_n as_o they_o be_v in_o scotland_n at_o which_o very_a nick_n of_o time_n the_o confession_n of_o faith_n swear_v before_o in_o the_o year_n 1580._o be_v present_v to_o the_o assembly_n by_o the_o king_n and_o council_n together_o with_o his_o letter_n to_o nobleman_n and_o gentleman_n for_o erect_v presbytery_n complete_o through_o the_o nation_n and_o dissolve_v prelacy_n all_o the_o three_o viz_o both_o the_o king_n the_o estate_n and_o the_o assembly_n full_o agree_v in_o this_o judgement_n as_o to_o church_n government_n and_o this_o oath_n for_o its_o maintenance_n and_o according_a to_o this_o joint_a authoritative_a determination_n of_o church_n and_o state_n presbytery_n be_v erect_v likewise_o in_o this_o assembly_n according_a to_o the_o foresaid_a joint_a conclusion_n the_o second_o book_n of_o discipline_n contain_v the_o mould_n of_o presbyterial_a government_n and_o likewise_o this_o national_a covenant_n and_o oath_n for_o its_o preservation_n be_v as_o the_o two_o great_a charter_n of_o our_o church_n government_n and_o liberty_n insert_v into_o the_o church_n record_n ad_fw-la futuram_fw-la rei_fw-la memoriam_fw-la and_o that_o posterity_n may_v not_o be_v ignorant_a of_o the_o discipline_n swear_v in_o that_o covenant_n upon_o which_o and_o many_o such_o like_a ground_n the_o assembly_n 1638_o do_v again_o judicial_o declare_v this_o sense_n of_o this_o national_a oath_n which_o according_o be_v receive_v with_o one_fw-mi express_v application_n to_o prelacy_n and_o the_o other_o corruption_n attend_v it_o and_o take_v by_o the_o whole_a land_n with_o a_o full_a concurrence_n of_o the_o civil_a sanction_n and_o authority_n anno._n 1640._o the_o second_o great_a engadgement_n plead_v against_o prelacy_n be_v that_o of_o the_o solemn_a league_n and_o covenant_n wherein_o we_o vow_v the_o preservation_n of_o the_o reform_a religion_n of_o the_o church_n of_o scotland_n in_o doctrine_n worship_n discipline_n and_o government_n according_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o the_o example_n of_o the_o best_a reform_a church_n in_o the_o second_o article_n we_o swear_v the_o extirpation_n of_o poprie_fw-la and_o prelacy_n arch-bishop_n bishop_n their_o chancellor_n and_o commissary_n etc._n etc._n and_o all_o ecclesiastical_a officer_n depend_v on_o that_o hierarchy_n of_o whatever_o be_v find_v contrary_a to_o sound_v doctrine_n and_o the_o power_n of_o godliness_n which_o engadgement_n have_v be_v likewise_o take_v by_o all_o rank_n by_o parliament_n assembly_n and_o the_o body_n of_o the_o people_n now_o that_o the_o prelacy_n at_o this_o time_n establish_v be_v abjure_v in_o this_o engadgement_n be_v these_o way_n evident_a 1._o prelacy_n be_v raze_v in_o anno._n 1638._o according_a to_o our_o national_a covenant_n and_o one_fw-mi engadgement_n be_v frame_v of_o adherence_n to_o the_o religion_n establish_v in_o doctrine_n worship_n discipline_n and_o government_n in_o opposition_n unto_o all_o innovation_n former_o introduce_v and_o upon_o both_o ground_n presbyterian_a government_n in_o its_o exact_a parity_n be_v set_v up_o and_o judicial_o enact_v both_o by_o assembly_n and_o parliament_n that_o the_o solemn_a league_n must_v needs_o strike_v against_o prelacy_n be_v in_o this_o apparent_a because_o this_o league_n be_v clear_o referable_a to_o the_o great_a end_n of_o the_o national_a covenant_n as_o it_o stand_v then_o establish_v explain_v and_o swear_v by_o this_o whole_a nation_n and_o therefore_o be_v one_fw-mi accessory_n engadgement_n commensurat_fw-la unto_fw-la and_o to_o be_v explain_v by_o the_o precede_a and_o consequent_o none_o can_v doubt_v that_o it_o strike_v against_o prelacy_n and_o engadge_v to_o presbyterian_a government_n who_o know_v how_o former_a engadgement_n stand_v 2._o the_o preservation_n of_o the_o doctrine_n worship_n discipline_n and_o government_n then_o existent_a in_o scotland_n refer_v to_o the_o then_o establishment_n thereof_o in_o opposition_n to_o the_o former_a prelacy_n and_o all_o its_o corruption_n it_o be_v evident_a that_o all_o sort_n of_o prelacy_n &_o whatever_o corruption_n in_o government_n be_v inconsistent_a with_o presbyterian_a simplicity_n and_o parity_n be_v here_o abjure_v and_o covenant_v against_o as_o we_o engage_v the_o preservation_n of_o the_o doctrine_n and_o worship_n as_o then_o reform_v from_o prelatic_a innovation_n so_o likewise_o we_o swear_v to_o preserve_v our_o church_n ancient_a and_o pure_a discipline_n as_o it_o stand_v then_o recover_v from_o prelatic_a encroachment_n that_o discipline_n &_o government_n be_v here_o swear_v unto_o as_o the_o discipline_n and_o government_n of_o the_o church_n of_o scotland_n which_o the_o church_n and_o state_n of_o scotland_n at_o this_o time_n establish_v and_o own_a but_o so_o it_o be_v that_o that_o be_v presbyterian_a government_n then_o full_o ratify_v both_o by_o church_n and_o state_n ergo_fw-la the_o preservation_n of_o presbyterian_a government_n be_v swear_v and_o by_o further_a consequence_n that_o government_n which_o be_v by_o church_n and_o state_n extirpate_v as_o abjure_v in_o the_o national_a covenant_n and_o contrary_a unto_o this_o presbyterian_a frame_n be_v likewise_o abjure_v and_o covenant_v against_o in_o this_o league_n but_o such_o be_v prelacy_n bishop_n arch-bishop_n &c_n &c_n ergo_fw-la again_o 3._o the_o great_a ground_n upon_o which_o our_o adversary_n deny_v the_o national_a covenant_n to_o strike_v against_o prelacy_n be_v that_o they_o hold_v that_o the_o then_o existent_a discipline_n to_o which_o in_o that_o oath_n we_o vow_v adherence_n as_o the_o discipline_n of_o this_o church_n be_v not_o presbyterian_a government_n &_o that_o king_n james_n do_v not_o own_o it_o ergo_fw-la by_o one_fw-mi argument_n a_o contrariis_fw-la and_o ad_fw-la hominem_fw-la since_o its_o undeniable_a with_o they_o that_o de_fw-la facto_fw-la presbyterian_a government_n be_v now_o enact_v ratify_v establish_v and_o set_v up_o both_o by_o assembly_n and_o king_n and_o parliament_n that_o government_n we_o must_v stand_v oblige_v unto_o by_o the_o solemn_a league_n as_o the_o reform_a discipline_n and_o government_n of_o this_o church_n and_o contrary_o that_o government_n which_o be_v then_o the_o facto_fw-la by_o assembly_n king_n and_o parliament_n raze_v as_o inconsistent_a with_o presbyterian_a government_n and_o as_o abjure_v in_o the_o national_a covenant_n that_o government_n we_o can_v deny_v but_o the_o solemn_a league_n strike_v against_o but_o so_o it_o be_v that_o prelacy_n be_v at_o this_o time_n raze_v by_o assembly_n king_n and_o parliament_n as_o inconsistent_a with_o the_o national_a covenant_n and_o presbyterian_a government_n then_o establish_v ergo_fw-la this_o solemn_a league_n strike_v against_o prelacy_n 4._o the_o word_n preserve_v here_o use_v and_o the_o expression_n of_o common_a enemy_n clear_v this_o further_a preserving●…relates_n ●…relates_z to_o that_o which_o one_o be_v in_o possession_n of_o the_o common_a enemy_n of_o this_o possession_n in_o the_o sense_n of_o all_o both_o imposer_n and_o engadger_n be_v the_o prelate_n and_o their_o malignant_a agent_n so_o that_o the_o hold_v fast_o of_o what_o be_v attain_v in_o point_n of_o reformation_n &c_n &c_n presbyterian_a government_n in_o all_o its_o establish_a privilege_n against_o prelate_n prelacy_n and_o all_o the_o incroachement_n thereof_o be_v here_o most_o evident_o engage_v unto_o 5._o that_o engadgement_n and_o oath_n which_o they_o who_o have_v set_v up_o prelacy_n in_o our_o church_n do_v cassat_fw-la and_o remove_v as_o inconsistent_a therewith_o that_o must_v needs_o by_o their_o own_o confession_n strike_v against_o it_o but_o so_o it_o be_v that_o our_o parliament_n and_o ruler_n do_v whole_o cassat_fw-la this_o solemn_a league_n in_o order_n to_o the_o establish_n of_o prelacy_n ergo_fw-la by_o their_o own_o confession_n it_o strike_v against_o it_o they_o cassat_fw-la the_o national_a covenant_n
proceed_v his_o doubter_n allege_v that_o all_o stand_v bind_v against_o bishop_n in_o the_o covenant_n which_o do_v abjure_v they_o he_o cry_v out_o at_o all_o bind_v as_o a_o paradox_n and_o tell_v we_o that_o many_o minister_n and_o people_n never_o take_v it_o and_o ask_v if_o we_o think_v they_o bind_v yes_o we_o think_v they_o bind_v as_o we_o do_v judge_v they_o bind_v in_o god_n covenant_n deut_n 29._o who_o be_v not_o there_o as_o well_o as_o these_o who_o be_v there_o young_a and_o old_a wife_n little_a one_o from_o the_o hewer_n of_o wood_n to_o the_o drawer_n of_o water_n it_o seem_v this_o man_n either_o have_v not_o read_v that_o chapt_n or_o understand_v not_o the_o import_n of_o national_a compact_n even_o among_o nation_n themselves_o which_o do_v certain_o oblige_v all_o member_n in_o the_o incorporation_n although_o not_o personal_o swear_v by_o every_o individual_a will_v he_o say_v that_o no_o subject_n as_o a_o bear_a subject_n owe_v fealty_n and_o alledgeance_n to_o his_o majesty_n but_o such_o as_o have_v personal_o swear_v the_o oath_n of_o supremacy_n or_o alledgeance_n if_o so_o than_o a_o man_n can_v not_o be_v guilty_a of_o treason_n which_o be_v certain_o a_o breach_n of_o this_o fealty_n unless_o he_o have_v personal_o swear_v which_o i_o know_v not_o who_o will_v assert_v but_o the_o doubter_n allege_v that_o it_o oblige_v even_o the_o posterity_n he_o tell_v we_o that_o this_o be_v a_o strange_a fancy_n juramentum_fw-la be_v with_o casuist_n vinculum_fw-la personale_fw-la bind_v those_o that_o take_v it_o only_o that_o according_o the_o covenant_n say_v we_o every_o one_o for_o ourselves_o and_o not_o for_o ourselves_o and_o other_o that_o the_o father_n who_o be_v against_o bishop_n his_o swear_n shall_v not_o prelimit_v his_o son_n judgement_n who_o be_v for_o they_o in_o a_o disputable_a point_n or_o oblige_v he_o to_o act_v contrary_a to_o his_o judgement_n ans_fw-fr 1._o that_o there_o be_v covenant_n and_o oath_n real_a and_o hereditary_a as_o well_o as_o personal_a be_v evident_a in_o scripture_n and_o if_o this_o man_n be_v not_o more_o lead_v by_o fancy_n then_o truth_n he_o will_v not_o deny_v it_o which_o be_v not_o only_o thus_o evident_a but_o acknowledge_v also_o by_o casuist_n be_v not_o that_o oath_n and_o covenant_n deut_n 29._o make_v with_o they_o who_o be_v not_o there_o and_o belong_v unto_o and_o by_o consequence_n engage_v their_o seed_n for_o ever_o deut_n 5_o 2_o 3._o moses_n tell_v the_o people_n emphatical_o that_o god_n make_v the_o covenant_n with_o they_o who_o be_v then_o alive_a even_o that_o covenant_n at_o horeb_n though_o they_o be_v all_o near_a dead_a with_o who_o it_o be_v make_v neh_n 9_o 38._o all_o enter_v into_o covenant_n but_o only_o some_o seal_v it_o be_v not_o that_o oath_n of_o joseph_n brethren_n anent_o the_o carry_v up_o of_o his_o bone_n from_o egypt_n to_o canaan_n the_o oath_n to_o the_o gibeonite_n such_o as_o do_v reach_v and_o oblige_v their_o posterity_n so_o that_o oath_n betwixt_o david_n and_o jonathan_n 2._o sam_n 9_o 7._o now_o that_o the_o nature_n of_o this_o oath_n be_v such_o can_v be_v doubt_v it_o be_v about_o matter_n of_o perpetual_a and_o everlasting_a importance_n which_o no_o time_n can_v alter_v evacuat_a or_o limit_n and_o have_v the_o public_a faith_n of_o church_n and_o state_n interpose_v therein_o by_o a_o vowand_a covenant_n with_o god_n and_o man_n over_o and_o above_o the_o oath_n and_o likewise_o be_v in_o its_o nature_n promissory_a in_o relation_n to_o duty_n midse_n and_o end_n perpetual_o necessary_a and_o oblige_a it_o be_v palpable_o evident_a that_o it_o be_v real_a and_o not_o personal_a only_o 2._o for_o that_o expression_n every_o one_o for_o ourselves_o it_o be_v very_o impertinent_o here_o allege_v to_o exclude_v the_o posterity_n for_o the_o end_n and_o motive_n of_o the_o oath_n before_o this_o be_v express_v to_o be_v the_o glory_n of_o god_n the_o advancement_n of_o christ_n kingdom_n the_o happiness_n of_o the_o king_n and_o his_o posterity_n the_o true_a public_a liberty_n safety_n of_o the_o kingdom_n etc._n etc._n wherein_o every_a one_o private_a state_n be_v include_v which_o of_o necessity_n include_v the_o posterity_n and_o design_n the_o obligation_n for_o they_o next_o in_o the_o close_a of_o the_o first_o article_n the_o posterity_n be_v express_o take_v in_o when_o the_o end_n and_o design_n of_o the_o matter_n therein_o contain_v be_v say_v to_o be_v that_o we_o and_o our_o posterity_n after_o we_o may_v live_v in_o faith_n and_o love_n &c_n &c_n and_o in_o the_o close_a of_o the_o 5._o article_n we_o engage_v to_o endeavour_v that_o the_o kingdom_n may_v remain_v conjoin_v in_o a_o firm_a peace_n and_o union_n to_o all_o posterity_n and_o therefore_o his_o negative_a inference_n viz_o for_o ourselves_o and_o not_o for_o our_o posterity_n be_v opposite_a unto_o the_o very_a sense_n scope_n and_o word_n of_o this_o oath_n so_o that_o this_o clause_n be_v cleary_a referable_a unto_o the_o various_a capacity_n condition_n and_o relation_n wherein_o in_o order_n to_o the_o work_n of_o god_n the_o then_o engadger_n stand_v 3._o his_o notion_n about_o prelimit_v the_o son_n by_o the_o father_n engadgement_n be_v a_o poor_a shift_n for_o this_o may_v be_v object_v against_o any_o national_a mutual_a compact_n in_o matter_n of_o a_o far_o low_a nature_n than_o this_o this_o may_v have_v be_v object_v against_o josuahs_n oath_n to_o the_o gibeonite_n may_v not_o the_o posterity_n look_v upon_o it_o as_o a_o disputable_a point_n to_o keep_v unto_o they_o and_o may_v not_o zedekiahs_n posterity_n look_v on_o it_o as_o a_o disputable_a point_n to_o keep_v that_o oath_n of_o he_o to_o the_o king_n of_o babylon_n i_o wonder_v if_o this_o man_n will_v think_v it_o one_fw-mi unlawful_a covenant_n and_o vow_n to_o engage_v for_o prelacy_n as_o now_o constitute_v and_o oblige_v for_o ourselves_o and_o posterity_n that_o it_o shall_v stand_v in_o this_o posture_n sure_o he_o will_v not_o deny_v the_o warrantableness_n of_o this_o since_o he_o look_v upon_o prelacy_n as_o the_o ancient_a apostolic_a frame_n own_v by_o the_o primitive_a church_n but_o shall_v the_o son_n judgement_n who_o be_v other_o way_n mind_v be_v prelimited_a by_o the_o father_n or_o else_o must_v he_o act_v contrary_a to_o his_o judgement_n let_v the_o informer_n see_v to_o this_o if_o he_o say_v it_o be_v not_o a_o disputable_a point_n to_o hold_v the_o present_a prelacy_n and_o that_o therefore_o the_o son_n be_v oblige_v to_o inform_v his_o judgement_n and_o act_n rational_o the_o obligation_n to_o the_o duty_n carry_v in_o its_o bosom_n a_o prior_n obligation_n to_o know_v it_o sure_o he_o must_v acknowledge_v that_o this_o be_v our_o case_n and_o answer_v as_o to_o the_o covenant_n and_o that_o consequent_o his_o objection_n be_v naught_o and_o the_o horn_n of_o his_o horn_a argument_n be_v crooked_a so_o that_o it_o push_v we_o with_o neither_o of_o they_o we_o may_v also_o here_o tell_v he_o that_o a_o prelimitation_n as_o to_o practise_v in_o many_o thing_n not_o indispensable_o necessary_a will_v fall_v under_o the_o father_n paternal_a power_n over_o child_n witness_v that_o case_n of_o the_o rechabite_v and_o that_o this_o will_v not_o in_o every_o thing_n infer_v a_o prelimi_fw-la tation_n in_o judgement_n as_o to_o the_o object_n simpliciter_fw-la nay_o who_o know_v no●…_n that_o the_o great_a moral_a precept_n honour_n thy_o father_n and_o thy_o mother_n import_v a_o very_a extensive_a obligation_n upon_o child_n as_o such_o in_o order_n to_o obedience_n to_o parent_n and_o give_v unto_o parent_n a_o large_a and_o extensive_a authority_n hereanent_fw-la but_o shall_v the_o son_n be_v prelimit_n in_o his_o judgement_n anent_o all_o these_o or_o act_v contrary_a to_o it_o so_o this_o objection_n in_o the_o informer_n sense_n and_o according_a to_o his_o scope_n will_v blur_v out_o a_o great_a part_n of_o the_o 5t_n command_n but_o what_o need_v more_o the_o matter_n here_o engage_v unto_o be_v important_a truth_n and_o duty_n not_o disputable_a point_n as_o he_o and_o the_o rest_n of_o his_o adiaphorist_n latitudinarian_a party_n will_v make_v they_o and_o therefore_o we_o be_v under_o perpetual_a obligation_n to_o own_o and_o maintain_v the_o same_o but_o if_o this_o man_n will_v abide_v a_o quere_z here_o and_o a_o little_a retortion_n of_o his_o notion_n further_o think_v he_o it_o not_o hard_a to_o prelimit_v the_o faithful_a ministry_n and_o professor_n of_o this_o nation_n in_o their_o judgement_n about_o his_o disputable_a point_n of_o the_o present_a conformity_n by_o so_o many_o law_n and_o act_n or_o else_o oblige_v they_o to_o act_v contrary_a to_o their_o judgement_n sure_a father_n have_v at_o least_o as_o great_a if_o not_o a_o great_a authority_n to_o limit_v their_o child_n than_o the_o prelate_n
formal_o depend_v upon_o he_o yet_o as_o a_o humane_a device_n they_o make_v way_n for_o he_o and_o eatenus_fw-la be_v a_o part_n of_o his_o hierarchy_n which_o the_o opposition_n of_o some_o bishop_n when_o he_o first_o attempt_v supremacy_n do_v nothing_o invalidat_n beside_o that_o the_o question_n here_o betwixt_o the_o apologist_n and_o that_o pamphleter_n be_v about_o prelacy_n as_o it_o appear_v before_o the_o reformer_n in_o its_o then_o be_v and_o will_v but_o not_o of_o the_o first_o proestote_n or_o moderatour_n what_o he_o add_v here_o anent_o calvin_n his_o own_n of_o a_o hierarchy_n and_o pronounce_v anathema_n upon_o they_o who_o will_v dissowne_v it_o if_o cut_v off_o from_o its_o dependence_n upon_o the_o pope_n be_v answer_v already_o upon_o the_o 1._o dialogue_n he●…e_v i_o shall_v only_o add_v that_o if_o calvin_n in_o that_o passage_n oppose_v unto_o the_o popish_a bishop_n such_o as_o take_v christ_n for_o their_o head_n what_o curse_n will_v he_o not_o judge_v they_o worthy_a of_o who_o own_o and_o plead_v for_o such_o bishop_n as_o pretend_v to_o renounce_v the_o pope_n headship_n take_v for_o their_o immediate_a head_n a_o civil_a pope_n and_o make_v he_o as_o to_o all_o spiritual_a matter_n a_o more_o absolute_a head_n then_o the_o pope_n himself_o as_o for_o his_o argument_n from_o these_o minister_n who_o reason_v with_o the_o doctor_n of_o aberdeen_n their_o declare_v that_o the_o doctor_n may_v take_v the_o national_n covenant_n and_o yet_o debate_n and_o vote_n in_o relation_n to_o episcopacy_n in_o the_o ensue_a assembly_n i_o wonder_v what_o blur_v this_o man_n eye_n that_o cite_v pag._n 395._o of_o the_o apology_n he_o can_v not_o look_v back_o to_o pag._n 393._o where_o he_o may_v have_v find_v this_o argument_n of_o his_o master_n the_o author_n of_o the_o seasonable_a case_n answer_v which_o this_o casuist_n draw_v from_o that_o pamphlet_n emit_v anno_fw-la 1638._o under_o the_o name_n of_o his_o majesty_n commissioner_n so_o that_o we_o have_v it_o here_o in_o the_o 3●…_n concoction_n and_o yet_o it_o be_v as_o raw_a as_o at_o the_o first_o the_o answer_n in_o short_a be_v i_o remit_v it_o at_o length_n to_o his_o read_n in_o that_o piece_n that_o it_o be_v not_o the_o national_a covenant_n itself_o that_o the_o doctor_n scruple_v to_o subscribe_v and_o consequent_o anent_o which_o that_o debate_n be_v state_v betwixt_o the_o minister_n and_o they_o but_o the_o addition_n contain_v the_o application_n to_o the_o present_a time_n which_o as_o to_o prelacy_n be_v express_v thus_o he_o forbear_v the_o approbation_n of_o the_o corruption_n of_o the_o public_a government_n of_o the_o church_n by_o this_o they_o think_v they_o be_v express_o specifical_o bind_v against_o prelacy_n this_o these_o minister_n deny_v but_o never_o say_v that_o prelacy_n be_v not_o abjure_v in_o the_o national_a covenant_n it_o self_n or_o the_o negative_a confession_n let_v this_o sin-absolver_n read_v the_o answer_n of_o the_o minister_n wherein_o this_o will_v be_v clear_v the_o doubter_n next_o object_n that_o the_o decision_n of_o the_o assembly_n 1638._o put_v it_o out_o of_o doubt_n that_o prelacy_n be_v abjure_v in_o that_o covenant_n and_o that_o all_o episcopacy_n be_v mean_v by_o the_o pope_n hierarchy_n to_o which_o he_o answer_v 1._o that_o prelacy_n be_v of_o divine_a or_o apostolic_a right_a that_o decision_n be_v null_a from_o the_o beginning_n ans._n whereas_o he_o say_v he_o have_v prove_v prelacy_n to_o be_v of_o divine_a or_o apostolic_a right_n i_o will_v presume_v to_o say_v i_o have_v prove_v the_o contrary_a so_o that_o the_o covenant_n be_v so_o far_o from_o be_v null_n upon_o this_o ground_n that_o it_o be_v rather_o a_o accessory_a tie_n to_o disow_v a_o corruption_n to_o the_o disow_v whereof_o wewere_v before_o by_o scripture_n ground_n preoblidge_v but_o pass_v this_o he_o next_o allege_v that_o it_o be_v more_o than_o that_o assembly_n can_v do_v to_o declare_v this_o who_o so_o 1._o say_v he_o how_o can_v they_o put_v a_o sense_n upon_o one_fw-mi oath_n take_v 58._o year_n before_o and_o few_o or_o none_o of_o the_o first_o taker_n alive_a or_o if_o alive_a few_o or_o none_o member_n of_o that_o assembly_n how_o can_v they_o know_v that_o their_o exposition_n be_v according_a to_o the_o mind_n of_o the_o first_o imposer_n but_o why_o will_v this_o plageary_n tell_v we_o still_o over_o and_o over_o the_o argument_n of_o the_o seasonable_a case_n without_z noticing_z the_o answer_n thereof_o already_o exhibit_v unto_o he_o do_v not_o the_o apologist_n tell_v he_o that_o this_o reason_n suppose_v the_o sense_n of_o that_o covenant_n to_o perish_v with_o the_o first_o framer_n and_o whereas_o that_o casuist_n add_v to_o make_v the_o argument_n strong_a which_o this_o his_o disciple_n forget_v that_o the_o oath_n be_v vinculum_fw-la personale_fw-la they_o can_v not_o give_v the_o sense_n of_o dead_a man_n to_o this_o the_o apologist_n answer_v that_o there_o be_v also_o a_o vinculum_fw-la real_n as_o this_o national_a oath_n be_v and_o that_o it_o oblige_v all_o the_o land_n and_o the_o posterity_n we_o be_v according_o in_o order_n to_o performance_n bind_v to_o search_n into_o its_o meaning_n and_o that_o this_o be_v the_o proper_a work_n &_o duty_n of_o a_o general_a assembly_n that_o that_o casuist_n himself_o acknowledge_v which_o this_o borrower_n shall_v have_v notice_v that_o this_o be_v the_o judgement_n of_o minister_n concern_v its_o sense_n when_o prelate_n be_v first_o obtrude_v upon_o this_o church_n so_o that_o its_o true_a meaning_n from_o hand_n to_o hand_n be_v come_v to_o they_o and_o that_o they_o be_v the_o more_o in_o tuto_fw-la to_o judge_n of_o it_o and_o whereas_o the_o argument_n of_o the_o seasonable_a case_n have_v a_o limitation_n in_o it_o which_o this_o man_n forget_v viz_o unless_o that_o assembly_n can_v produce_v authentic_a evidence_n that_o this_o be_v the_o meaning_n of_o imposer_n the_o apologist_n tell_v he_o that_o they_o do_v produce_v authentic_a express_a evidence_n that_o such_o be_v the_o meaning_n of_o the_o first_o taker_n i_o will_v know_v how_o this_o man_n come_v to_o descant_v upon_o the_o sense_n of_o ancient_a writer_n in_o this_o pamphlet_n and_o to_o determine_v anent_o sentence_n of_o private_a writer_n dead_a several_a century_n of_o year_n ago_o he_o be_v very_o confident_a in_o fasten_v his_o gloss_n upon_o jerom_n word_n i_o trow_v that_o author_n be_v dead_a more_o than_o 58._o year_n ago_o and_o for_o as_o clear_a as_o his_o word_n be_v against_o the_o divine_a right_n of_o prelacy_n yet_o this_o man_n think_v he_o be_v cock_n sure_a that_o this_o be_v not_o the_o meaning_n of_o jerom_n word_n which_o presbyrerian_n allege_v quis_fw-la talia_fw-la fando_fw-la temperet_fw-la a_o risu_fw-la but_o the_o seasonable_a case_n go_v on_o to_o object_v next_o and_o this_o resolver_n follow_v up_o at_o his_o heel_n that_o all_o which_o that_o assembly_n produce_v sess._n 16._o to_o prove_v this_o to_o be_v the_o meaning_n of_o that_o oath_n amount_v only_o to_o this_o that_o the_o church_n about_o that_o time_n of_o take_v the_o covenant_n and_o also_o afterward_o be_v labour_v against_o bishop_n but_o prove_v not_o that_o episcopacy_n be_v abjure_v in_o the_o word_n of_o the_o oath_n now_o why_o will_v he_o not_o do_v his_o doubter_n such_o a_o small_a piece_n of_o justice_n as_o to_o put_v into_o his_o mouth_n the_o large_a answer_n of_o the_o apollogist_n to_o this_o argument_n from_o pag._n 406._o to_o 409._o but_o this_o will_v have_v make_v he_o too_o stiff_a a_o doubter_n for_o this_o resolver_n or_o informer_n but_o have_v he_o nothing_o in_o the_o surveyer_n to_o resolve_v this_o well_o the_o apollogist_n here_o tell_v he_o and_o his_o leader_n in_o this_o argument_n that_o the_o covenant_n suppose_v a_o government_n then_o in_o be_v to_o the_o defence_n of_o which_o it_o oblidge_v that_o that_o government_n be_v not_o prelacy_n but_o presbytery_n he_o clear_v by_o a_o large_a induction_n of_o our_o assembly_n act_n and_o procedure_n as_o the_o assembly_n 1638._o do_v before_o so_o that_o that_o matter_n of_o fact_n be_v clear_a there_o be_v no_o doubt_n but_o that_o the_o national_a covenant_n bind_v to_o defend_v and_o preserve_v presbyterian_a government_n then_o own_v and_o exi_a even_o as_o its_o engadgement_n to_o defend_v the_o king_n must_v needs_o be_v understand_v of_o king_n james_n who_o be_v then_o reign_v that_o this_o be_v the_o government_n then_o existent_a and_o own_a by_o this_o church_n we_o clear_v in_o short_a already_o and_o need_v not_o here_o repeat_v it_o but_o 3._o this_o informer_n pass_v over_o a_o more_o plausible_a objection_n of_o his_o master_n the_o seasonable_a case_n inquire_v by_o what_o war_n and_o that_o assembly_n can_v put_v upon_o other_o their_o sense_n of_o the_o covenant_n they_o may_v
be_v but_o what_o be_v mean_v by_o discipline_n in_o that_o covenant_n the_o substantial_o of_o it_o say_v he_o and_o necessary_a policy_n as_o express_v in_o the_o first_o dook_v of_o discipline_n 9_o cap._n which_o be_v unalterable_a though_o particular_a form_n as_o some_o think_v may_v be_v change_v but_o 1._o why_o will_v this_o versatil_a informer_n bemist_n his_o reader_n what_o dark_a and_o general_a expression_n whither_o mean_v he_o the_o essential_a necessary_a policy_n according_o to_o that_o phrase_n of_o the_o book_n or_o a_o necessary_a policy_n express_v and_o assert_v in_o that_o book_n if_o the_o first_o i_o will_v ask_v he_o 1._o why_o condescend_v he_o not_o upon_o that_o essential_a and_o necessary_a policy_n and_o give_v no_o account_n of_o its_o nature_n and_o extent_n as_o it_o be_v contradistinguish_v from_o that_o which_o be_v not_o necessary_a but_o mutable_a 2._o if_o by_o substantial_o of_o government●…_n he_o mean_v all_o church-officer_n of_o divine_a appointment_n according_a to_o the_o scripture_n account_n of_o their_o qualification_n their_o authority_n and_o its_o due_a exercise_n with_o what_o sense_n or_o reason_n can_v he_o suppose_v or_o any_o else_o that_o this_o will_v not_o determine_v a_o particular_a form_n &_o cansubsi_v without_o it_o how_o can_v a_o particular_a form_n be_v more_o formal_o and_o explicit_o describe_v then_o thus_o but_o next_o if_o by_o necessary_a policy_n he_o understand_v the_o policy_n hold_v out_o and_o assert_v in_o that_o first_o book_n i_o will_v ask_v he_o 1._o why_o exclude_v he_o the_o second_o book_n which_o be_v at_o this_o time_n extant_a and_o receive_v and_o which_o do_v in_o several_a chapter_n viz._n 5_o 6_o 7_o 8._o treat_v of_o the_o pastor_n doctor_n elder_a and_o deacon_n office_n which_o he_o will_v no_o doupt_v own_o as_o substantial_a piece_n of_o church-policy_n be_v so_o clear_o assert_v in_o scripture_n 2._o why_o answer_v he_o not_o to_o the_o account_n &_o character_n of_o that_o first_o book_n give_v by_o the_o apoll_n pag._n 10._o who_o tell_v he_o that_o it_o overthrow_v prelacy_n in_o the_o establish_n of_o church-session_n the_o way_n of_o election_n and_o trial_n of_o minister_n and_o several_a other_o thing_n contrary_a to_o the_o episcopal_a method_n will_v he_o by_o this_o silence_n consent_n that_o prelacy_n stand_v in_o opposition_n to_o the_o substantial_o of_o church_n government_n and_o the_o utter_o necessary_a policy_n thereof_o to_o a_o policy_n indeed_o unalterable_a to_o use_v his_o time_n phrase_n if_o he_o say_v that_o he_o understand_v by_o this_o phrase_n that_o policy_n which_o be_v necessary_a in_o either_o or_o both_o these_o book_n but_o not_o the_o intir_fw-fr policy_n delineate_v therein_o how_o will_v he_o prove_v that_o the_o covenant-obligation_n in_o the_o intention_n of_o the_o imposer_n reach_v the_o on_o and_o not_o the_o other_o next_o i_o will_v ask_v this_o informer_n whither_o think_v he_o that_o particular_a form_n of_o government_n be_v alterable_a yea_o or_o not_o if_o not_o how_o come_v he_o to_o distinguish_v they_o in_o this_o from_o the_o essential_a necessary_a policy_n which_o he_o call_v unalterable_a if_o he_o think_v they_o alterable_a why_o do_v he_o not_o positive_o assert_v this_o but_o present_v this_o opininion_n as_o the_o thought_n of_o some_o only_a and_o censure_n still_v fleet_n opinion_n herein_o pag._n 76._o beside_o if_o by_o substantial_o of_o government_n he_o unstand_v the_o discipline_n assert_v in_o that_o book_n he_o justle_v and_o deal_v stroke_n what_o his_o reverend_a father_n b._n spotswood_n in_o his_o character_n thereof_o exhibit_v in_o his_o history_n pag._n 174._o for_o first_o he_o say_v it_o be_v frame_v in_o imitation_n of_o the_o government_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n in_o geneva_n which_o all_o know_v be_v presbyterian_a 2_o he_o say_v it_o it_o can_v not_o take_v effect_n as_o be_v but_o a_o dream_n and_o do_v he_o call_v the_o substantial_o of_o government_n but_o a_o dream_n think_v this_o man_n sure_o either_o the_o bishop_n or_o our_o informer_n dream_n 3_o he_o wish_v john_n knox_n have_v retain_v the_o old_a policy_n and_o therefore_o in_o his_o sense_n this_o policy_n be_v distinct_a from_o prelacy_n on_o the_o other_o hand_n the_o framer_n the_o ministry_n owne_v it_o supplicat_fw-la the_o parliament_n after_o it_o be_v draw_v up_o for_o the_o restauration_n of_o the_o discipline_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n and_o for_o discharge_v the_o pope_n usurpation_n and_o of_o all_o that_o discipline_n that_o do_v flow_v therefrom_o as_o inconsistent_a with_o the_o discipline_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n and_o the_o discipline_n contain_v in_o that_o book_n how_o absurd_a be_v it_o to_o suppose_v that_o it_o be_v only_a substantial_o which_o be_v at_o this_o time_n existent_a and_o no_o particular_a form_n it_o be_v a_o form_n of_o government_n and_o the_o discipline_n of_o this_o church_n which_o the_o covenant_n oblidge_n unto_o and_o the_o apologist_n as_o well_o as_o the_o assembly_n 1638._o can_v have_v give_v he_o a_o large_a account_n and_o proof_n of_o a_o particular_a form_n at_o this_o time_n existent_a in_o a_o word_n let_v we_o have_v all_o the_o substantial_o of_o government_n i._n e._n allchurch_n officer_n divine_o appoint_v with_o their_o due_a power_n and_o assembly_n high_a and_o low_o and_o it_o will_v quick_o justle_v his_o prelacy_n to_o the_o door_n and_o make_v he_o he_o and_o hisfather_n fee_v he_o dint_n of_o the_o true_a church_n of_o scotland_n her_o sword_n and_o censure_n for_o what_o they_o have_v do_v if_o they_o repent_v not_o chap._n iii_o the_o abjuration_n of_o prelacy_n in_o the_o solemn_a league_n and_o covenant_n vindicat_fw-la from_o the_o exception_n of_o this_o informer_n also_o mr_n crofton_n and_o timorcus_n acquit_v of_o afford_v any_o patrociny_n to_o his_o cause_n dr_n sanderson_n stand_v in_o term_n of_o contradiction_n to_o he_o in_o this_o point_n but_o now_o this_o our_o oedipus_n and_o doubt_n resolver_n who_o have_v acquit_v himself_o so_o dexterous_o in_o absolve_v we_o from_o the_o national_a covenant_n march_v up_o after_o the_o seasonable_a case_n to_o try_v how_o he_o can_v play_v the_o sin-absolver_n as_o to_o the_o solemn_a league_n and_o his_o doubter_n make_v a_o wide_a step_n to_o the_o 2d_o article_n wherein_o he_o allege_v bishop_n be_v abjure_v and_o that_o protestant_a bishop_n be_v mean_v to_o this_o he_o answer_v that_o it_o be_v not_o every_o kind_n of_o protestant_a bishop_n that_o be_v there_o intend_a and_o that_o timorcus_n pag._n 14_o 16._o hold_v that_o all_o episcopacy_n be_v not_o abjure_v but_o that_o they_o can_v in_o england_n free_o submit_v to_o the_o primitive_a episcopacy_n viz_o the_o precedency_n of_o one_o over_o the_o rest_n without_o who_o nothing_o be_v ordinary_o to_o be_v do_v in_o ordination_n and_o jurisdiction_n that_o they_o assert_v its_o only_a the_o english_a kind_n of_o prelacy_n express_v in_o the_o article_n for_o that_o end_n that_o be_v abjure_v which_o we_o have_v not_o in_o scotland_n that_o mr_n vine_n and_o gattaker_n assert_v that_o its_o only_a that_o complex_fw-la frame_n consist_v of_o all_o the_o officer_n there_o mention_v that_o be_v abjure_v that_o the_o assembly_n of_o divine_n be_v reconcilable_a to_o moderate_a episcopacy_n that_o timorcus_n hold_v that_o the_o english_a parliament_n &_o our_o commissioner_n be_v not_o against_o all_o episcopacy_n cite_v likewise_o mr_n crofton_n pag._n 70_o 71._o hence_o he_o conclude_v that_o the_o english_a preshyterian_n will_v not_o cry_v out_o against_o conformist_n as_o guilty_a of_o perjury_n ans._n i._o it_o be_v a_o very_a pitiful_a shift_n to_o measure_v our_o obligation_n in_o scotland_n against_o prelacy_n by_o the_o 2d_o article_n of_o the_o league_n which_o relate_v to_o the_o church_n of_o england_n wherein_o only_o that_o prelacy_n be_v existent_a for_o since_o scotland_n from_o the_o time_n of_o our_o reformation_n never_o have_v such_o a_o prelacy_n as_o the_o adversary_n acknowledge_v they_o must_v consequent_o grant_v that_o the_o prelacy_n which_o that_o article_n engadge_v to_o extirpate_v be_v not_o sole_o or_o main_o the_o prelacy_n which_o we_o stand_v oblige_v against_o in_o that_o covenant_n but_o a_o prelacy_n inconsistent_a with_o presbyterian_a government_n and_o under_o that_o formal_a consideration_n which_o in_o the_o first_o article_n we_o be_v engage_v to_o preserve_v in_o order_n to_o which_o preservation_n of_o our_o reform_a discipline_n from_o our_o own_o prelacy_n the_o second_o article_n which_o do_v relate_v to_o the_o extirpation_n of_o prelacy_n in_o england_n and_o ireland_n be_v subservient_fw-fr as_o a_o mean_a to_o its_o end_n this_o be_v convince_o clear_a for_o i._o extirpation_n and_o preservation_n be_v opposite_a term_n and_o the_o last_o be_v make_v use_n of_o as_o to_o our_o church_n of_o scotland_n must_v needs_o relate_v to_o presbyterian_a government_n as_o
thus_o as_o our_o late_a confession_n be_v disownd_v in_o relation_n to_o several_a doctrinal_a point_n of_o christian_a liberty_n morality_n of_o the_o sabath_n free_a election_n &c_n &c_n so_o likewise_o in_o relation_n to_o its_o principle_n as_o to_o church_n gobernment_n and_o christ_n appoint_v officer_n law_n and_o censure_n as_o head_n of_o his_o church_n his_o not_o give_v the_o key_n to_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n etc._n etc._n wherein_o our_o prelatic_a party_n be_v come_v so_o great_a a_o length_n that_o the_o late_a thesis_n from_o st_n andrews_n a_o 81_o deign_v that_o assembly_n of_o divine_n who_o confession_n be_v authoririze_v by_o the_o general_a assembly_n of_o this_o church_n with_o no_o other_o name_n than_o that_o of_o a_o conventicle_n 8_o our_o church_n case_n be_v now_o worse_o than_o when_o prelacy_n be_v introduce_v by_o king_n james_n the_o limitation_n of_o erastianism_n by_o the_o act_n of_o parliament_n an._n 1592._o in_o relation_n to_o her_o privilege_n concern_v head_n of_o religion_n heresy_n excommunication_n and_o censure_n clear_v this_o next_o church-judicatories_a be_v not_o discontinue_v but_o sit_v upon_o their_o old_a ground_n and_o prelate_n be_v restore_v by_o parliament_n to_o their_o civil_a dignity_n only_o hence_o 9_o it_o be_v clear_a that_o this_o pure_a presbyterian_a church_n have_v be_v mere_o passive_a as_o to_o all_o these_o innovation_n late_o introduce_v her_o true_a representative_n or_o lawful_a assembly_n never_o have_v consent_v to_o this_o course_n of_o conformity_n as_o appear_v by_o the_o assembly_n 38._o their_o act_n anent_o these_o meeting_n at_o linlithgow_n 1606_o at_o glasgow_n 1610._o at_o aberdeen_n 1616._o at_o st_n andrews_n 1617._o at_o perth_n 1618._o which_o consent_v to_o prelacy_n all_o which_o meeting_n they_o demonstrat_fw-la to_o be_v contrary_a in_o their_o frame_n and_o constitution_n to_o the_o privilege_n of_o this_o church_n and_o at_o prelacy_n late_a erection_n presbyterian_a judicatory_n and_o synod_n be_v prepare_v a_o judicial_a testimony_n before_o they_o be_v raise_v so_o that_o the_o voice_n of_o our_o lawful_a assembly_n be_v still_o hear_v in_o opposition_n to_o this_o course_n &_o since_o prelacy_n erection_n we_o have_v never_o have_v so_o much_o as_o a_o shadow_n of_o one_fw-mi assembly_n etc._n etc._n for_o the_o 3d_o point_n viz._n the_o different_a ground_n which_o the_o presbyterian_a and_o prelatic_a party_n and_o this_o man_n particular_o do_v plead_v upon_o for_o the_o people_n adherence_n take_v it_o short_o thus_o the_o prelatist_n do_v plead_v first_o that_o they_o be_v minister_n and_o in_o that_o relation_n to_o this_o church_n 2lv_n that_o corruption_n in_o administrator_n will_v not_o according_a to_o our_o own_o principle_n warrant_v separation_n from_o ordinance_n 3_o they_o plead_v order_n and_o union_n which_o they_o allege_v be_v break_v by_o people_n withdraw_v these_o be_v the_o chief_n topic_n they_o insist_v on_o on_o the_o other_o hand_n presbyterian_a minister_n plead_v for_o disow_v they_o according_a to_o the_o forementioned_a state_n of_o the_o question_n first_o from_o this_o that_o the_o body_n of_o presbyterian_a minister_n &_o professor_n adhere_v to_o our_o church_n reformation_n principle_n and_o privilege_n be_v the_o pure_a genuine_a church_n of_o scotland_n though_o now_o flee_v into_o a_o wilderness_n who_o voice_n we_o be_v call_v to_o hear_v as_o her_o true_a chiidren_n 2_o that_o this_o course_n of_o conformity_n be_v a_o mere_a intrusion_n on_o this_o church_n and_o invasion_n of_o christ_n kingdom_n prerogative_n and_o ordinance_n subject_v the_o law_n officer_n and_o censure_n of_o his_o church_n unto_o man_n exauctorate_n &_o put_v in_o officer_n without_o his_o warrant_n that_o prelate_n and_o their_o depute_n consequent_o have_v no_o right_n to_o officiat_fw-la as_o minister_n in_o this_o chuich_n since_o both_o the_o one_o and_o the_o other_o be_v arrant_a intruder_n upon_o the_o same_o and_o promoter_n of_o this_o schismatic_a destroy_a course_n of_o defection_n 3_o that_o our_o church_n divine_a right_a and_o claim_v to_o her_o privilege_n stand_v fast_o notwithstanding_o the_o present_a encroachment_n and_o invasion_n thereof_o and_o her_o child_n obligation_n of_o adherence_n to_o the_o same_o according_o 4_o that_o hence_o it_o follow_v because_o of_o the_o nature_n and_o tendency_n of_o this_o course_n of_o defection_n that_o all_o be_v oblige_v to_o keep_v themselves_o free_a from_o the_o least_o accession_n to_o it_o and_o therefore_o to_o disow_v curate_n both_o as_o maintain_v principle_n contrary_a to_o the_o principle_n and_o doctrine_n of_o this_o church_n and_o as_o stand_v in_o a_o state_v opposition_n to_o she_o &_o likewise_o as_o the_o object_n of_o her_o censure_n if_o she_o be_v in_o capacity_n to_o draw_v her_o sword_n that_o the_o people_n of_o god_n have_v both_o corrupt_a doctrine_n to_o lay_v to_o their_o charge_n beside_o the_o corruption_n worship_n and_o also_o their_o go_v out_o from_o the_o fellowship_n of_o this_o church_n and_o lead_v the_o people_n away_o from_o our_o vow_a reformation_n etc._n etc._n in_o the_o four_o place_n to_o come_v to_o clear_v this_o great_a point_n on_o who_o fide_fw-la the_o separation_n stand_v let_v we_o premise_v these_o thing_n 1._o every_o separation_n be_v not_o sinful_a even_o from_o a_o church_n which_o have_v the_o essentials_n yea_o and_o more_o than_o the_o essentials_n a_o man_n may_v go_v from_o one_o church_n to_o another_o without_o hazard_n of_o separation_n but_o further_a in_o these_o case_n separation_n be_v not_o schism_n i._o it_o if_o be_v from_o those_o though_o never_o so_o many_o who_o be_v draw_v back_o and_o in_o so_o far_o as_o draw_v back_o from_o whatever_o piece_n of_o duty_n and_o integrity_n be_v attain_v for_o this_o be_v still_o tobe_n hold_v fast_o according_a to_o many_o scripture_n command_v as_o we_o shall_v show_v so_o elias_n when_o god_n covenant_n be_v forsake_v be_v as_o another_o athanasius_n ay_o and_o i_o only_o be_o leave_v in_o point_n of_o tenacious_a integrity_n 2_o if_o we_o separat_fw-la in_o that_o which_o a_o national_n church_n have_v command_v we_o as_o her_o member_n to_o disow_v by_o her_o stand_a act_n and_o authority_n while_o those_o from_o who_o we_o separate_v own_o that_o corruption_n 4._o if_o minister_n their_o suppose_a separation_n be_v one_fw-mi officiate_a as_o they_o can_v have_v access_n after_o a_o national_a churches_n reformation_n be_v overturnd_v and_o they_o persecute_v from_o their_o watchtower_n by_o these_o overturner_n for_o in_o this_o case_n the_o persecuter_n separat_fw-la from_o they_o and_o chase_v they_o away_o 4._o there_o be_v a_o lawful_a forbearance_n of_o union_n and_o compliance_n with_o noto_fw-la ious_a backslider_n in_o that_o which_o be_v of_o itself_o sinful_a or_o inductive_a to_o it_o which_o be_v far_o from_o separation_n strict_o take_v the_o command_n of_o abstain_v from_o every_o appearance_n of_o evil_a and_o hate_v the_o garment_n spot_v with_o the_o flesh_n do_v clear_o include_v this_o 5._o many_o thing_n will_v warrant_v separation_n from_o such_o a_o particular_a minister_n or_o congregation_n which_o will_v not_o warrant_v separation_n from_o the_o church_n national_a nor_o infer_v it_o by_o mr_n durham_n acknowledgement_n on_o scandal_n pag._n 129._o for_o if_o scandal_n become_v excessive_a he_o allow_v to_o depart_v to_o another_o congregation_n 6._o there_o be_v a_o command_v withdraw_v from_o person_n and_o society_n even_o in_o worship_n the_o precept_n to_o avoid_v they_o that_o cause_n division_n and_o offence_n contrary_a to_o the_o receive_a doctrine_n rom._n 16._o 17._o to_o come_v out_o from_o among_o the_o unclean_a &_o be_v separate_a 2_o cor._n 6._o 17_o to_o cease_v from_o instruction_n that_o cause_v to_o err_v from_o ehe_fw-ge word_n of_o knowledge_n prev_n 19_o 27._o to_o save_v ourselves_o from_o the_o untoward_a generation_n act._n 2._o 40_o will_v clear_o import_v this_o by_o consequence_n two_o this_o charge_n of_o sinful_a separation_n which_o they_o put_v on_o god_n people_n suppose_v many_o thing_n which_o must_v be_v prove_v as_o first_o that_o the_o prelate_n and_o their_o adherent_n be_v the_o only_a true_a organic_n church_n of_o scotland_n which_o be_v deny_v her_o frame_n and_o constitution_n be_v such_o as_o it_o say_v sure_o the_o minister_n and_o professor_n adhere_v to_o her_o reformation_n must_v be_v the_o true_a church_n of_o scotland_n though_o the_o lesser_a number_n as_o they_o shall_v have_v be_v if_o this_o prelatiok_v defection_n have_v be_v entire_o popish_a these_o soldier_n who_o keep_v the_o gen●…rals_n order_n be_v the_o true_a army_n not_o the_o deserter_n of_o the_o same_o either_o the_o church_n in_o this_o nation_n as_o late_o reform_v &_o constitute_v and_o to_o who_o constitution_n many_o conformist_n vow_v adherence_n be_v not_o the_o true_a organic_n protestant_n church_n of_o scotland_n or_o this_o party_n who_o constitution_n
pure_a doctrine_n of_o this_o church_n in_o compliance_n with_o persecuter_n sure_o they_o and_o they_o only_o be_v the_o schismatics_n have_v not_o this_o invasion_n be_v make_v upon_o our_o church_n and_o her_o privilege_n what_o will_v have_v be_v her_o judgement_n of_o the_o present_a principle_n and_o practice_n of_o conformist_n in_o any_o of_o her_o lawful_a court_n will_v they_o not_o have_v be_v judge_v censurable_a as_o the_o worst_a of_o schismatic_n now_o what_o be_v the_o difference_n here_o except_z that_o this_o party_n make_v the_o great_a number_n but_o will_v this_o take_v away_o the_o charge_n of_o schism_n suppose_v a_o party_n of_o notorious_a schismatics_n shall_v cry_v ou●…_n upon_o such_o as_o withdraw_v from_o they_o as_o schismatics_n be_v not_o this_o a_o ridiculous_a charge_n and_o just_o so_o be_v that_o of_o conformist_n in_o this_o case_n 2._o every_o schism_n suppose_v one_fw-mi obligation_n of_o adherence_n to_o that_o church_n from_o which_o the_o separation_n be_v make_v now_o then_o let_v he_o prove_v minister_n obligation_n to_o join_v into_o this_o prelatic_a course_n without_o which_o they_o will_v not_o admit_v they_o to_o officiat_fw-la and_o disprove_v our_o prior_n obligation_n to_o opposeit_v or_o else_o minister_n obligation_n to_o preach_v and_o people_n consequent_o to_o hear_v in_o opposition_n to_o this_o course_n of_o defection_n will_v stand_v good_a on_o the_o old_a ground_n and_o all_o the_o scripture_n command_v found_v on_o pastor_n of_o this_o church_n their_o ministerial_a relation_n to_o set_v the_o trumpet_n to_o their_o mouth_n and_o give_v a_o ministerial_a testimony_n against_o this_o defection_n and_o people_n obligation_n to_o hear_v and_o take_v warning_n will_v press_v and_o plead_v for_o that_o which_o he_o call_v schism_n and_o a_o sinful_a separation_n 3._o hence_o presbyterian_a minister_n and_o professor_n be_v in_o this_o their_o practice_n never_o toch_v by_o all_o his_o argument_n and_o defence_n but_o these_o be_v weapon_n in_o their_o hand_n against_o he_o and_o the_o conform_v party_n 1._o whereas_o he_o plead_v the_o essence_n of_o the_o ministerial_a call_n which_o conformist_n lay_v claim_v unto_o presbyterian_a minister_n answer_v that_o nonconform_v minister_n have_v this_o that_o they_o be_v minister_n of_o this_o church_n and_o have_v a_o better_a right_n to_o officiat_fw-la as_o her_o true_a pastor_n than_o prelatist_n and_o if_o this_o will_v not_o plead_v for_o hear_v nonconformist_n why_o shall_v this_o argument_n be_v think_v valide_fw-la for_o hear_v curate_n be_v not_o the_o same_o way_n from_o athens_n to_o thebes_n and_o from_o thebes_n to_o athens_n if_o his_o concession_n touch_v the_o essence_n of_o their_o ministerial_a call_n will_v not_o with_o he_o infer_v hear_v nonconformist_n because_o of_o their_o suppose_a schism_n ergo_fw-la a_o fortiori_fw-la it_o will_v not_o infer_v the_o hear_n of_o curate_n who_o real_o be_v such_o 2._o he_o plead_v that_o corruption_n and_o fail_n in_o administrator_n or_o even_o some_o corruption_n in_o ordinance_n will_v not_o infer_v disow_v of_o minister_n why_o then_o plead_v he_o for_o disow_v presbyterian_a minister_n and_o ordinance_n adminis_fw-la read_v by_o they_o to_o who_o this_o be_v so_o clar_o applicable_a 3_o he_o plead_v union_n but_o let_v he_o say_v what_o be_v the_o order_n and_o union_n of_o this_o church_n before_o these_o innovation_n be_v it_o one_fw-mi union_n under_o prelacy_n erastianism_n and_o persurious_a breach_n of_o covenant_n be_v not_o our_o church_n reformation_n in_o doctrine_n worship_n discipline_n and_o government_n a_o beautiful_a order_n and_o union_n now_o who_o break_v this_o supppose_v we_o shall_v plead_v union_n against_o his_o withdraw_a presbyterian_a professor_n from_o presbyterian_a minister_n will_v he_o own_v this_o plead_n or_o not_o rather_o disowne_v it_o because_o he_o think_v our_o union_n be_v schismatical_a well_o so_o we_o hold_v and_o do_v prove_v the_o prelatic_a union_n to_o be_v &_o therefore_o until_o he_o disprove_v our_o charge_n against_o his_o party_n this_o plead_n be_v null_a 4._o divine_n do_v tell_v we_o particular_o timorcus_n chap._n 7._o page_n 32._o that_o a_o sinful_a separation_n which_o fall_v within_o the_o compass_n of_o schism_n be_v from_o the_o communion_n of_o a_o church_n as_o walk_v according_a to_o the_o divine_a rule_n otherwise_o if_o the_o church_n deviation_n special_o be_v great_a there_o be_v no_o fear_n of_o any_o guilt_n by_o schism_n in_o depart_v from_o it_o and_o hence_o infer_v that_o unless_o absolver_n can_v instruct_v that_o prelacy_n be_v juris_fw-la divini_fw-la disow_v and_o abjure_v it_o can_v be_v schismatical_a moreover_o this_o man_n himself_o grant_v that_o schism_n in_o its_o ordinary_a acceptation_n be_v take_v for_o a_o causeless_a separate_n and_o that_o where_o communion_n with_o a_o church_n can_v be_v hold_v without_o sin_n in_o that_o case_n separation_n be_v necessary_a now_o than_o if_o we_o can_v prove_v that_o our_o non_fw-fr union_n be_v not_o causeless_a and_o that_o communion_n can_v be_v hold_v with_o conformist_n in_o our_o case_n and_o circumstance_n without_o sin_n we_o be_v not_o schismatic_n by_o his_o owned_a confession_n to_o clear_v then_o this_o great_a point_n of_o the_o sinfulness_n of_o own_v they_o in_o their_o demand_v conformity_n we_o offer_v these_o consideration_n 1._o own_v they_o and_o subject_v ourselves_o to_o their_o ministry_n as_o the_o pastor_n of_o this_o church_n have_v a_o palpable_a breach_n of_o covenant_n in_o it_o as_o the_o case_n now_o stand_v for_o all_o along_o we_o must_v suppose_v its_o bind_a force_n and_o that_o there_o be_v a_o considerable_a body_n of_o minister_n &_o professor_n contend_v for_o it_o and_o that_o the_o question_n be_v to_o which_o of_o the_o party_n contend_v we_o be_v bind_v to_o adhere_v and_o that_o according_a to_o our_o principle_n anent_o its_o bind_a force_n and_o the_o unlawfulness_n of_o prelacy_n which_o this_o man_n can_v disprove_v the_o own_n of_o they_o in_o the_o manner_n above_o express_v be_v a_o breach_n of_o covenant_n many_o way_n special_o as_o this_o man_n plead_v for_o it_o with_o a_o total_a disow_n of_o presbyterian_a minister_n in_o their_o ministry_n in_o this_o case_n it_o be_v a_o resil_n from_o what_o we_o have_v attain_v in_o point_n of_o reformation_n contrary_a to_o the_o first_o article_n wherein_o we_o be_v bind_v to_o maintain_v purity_n of_o worship_n and_o doctrine_n as_o then_o establish_v now_o their_o preach_n be_v for_o the_o most_o part_n consist_v of_o corrupt_a doctrine_n contrary_a to_o our_o reformation_n and_o their_o prayer_n have_v several_a petition_n with_o which_o we_o can_v join_v such_o as_o for_o prosper_a prelate_n and_o their_o course_n not_o to_o speak_v of_o the_o abrogate_a the_o lecture_n repeat_v of_o the_o creed_n at_o baptism_n sing_v a_o set_a form_n of_o conclusion_n or_o what_o innovation_n in_o worship_n be_v introduce_v again_o this_o be_v a_o concurience_n with_o promoter_n of_o this_o course_n of_o backslide_v and_o a_o suffering_n ourselves_o to_o be_v withdraw_v from_o our_o union_n engage_v unto_o and_o a_o denial_n of_o suitable_a assistance_n to_o faithful_a minister_n contend_v for_o the_o covenant_n against_o backslider_n all_o which_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o other_o article_n thereof_o this_o will_v be_v special_o clear_a if_o it_o be_v further_o consider_v that_o 1._o the_o body_n of_o presbyterian_a minister_n be_v eject_v if_o disow_v in_o the_o manner_n and_o extent_n plead_v for_o by_o this_o informer_n the_o presbyterian_a interest_n and_o our_o reformation_n according_a to_o the_o covenant_n will_v be_v extinct_a sell_v and_o betray_v 2._o hear_v curate_n and_o people_n subject_v themselves_o to_o their_o ministry_n as_o the_o pastor_n of_o this_o church_n be_v by_o the_o ruler_n require_v as_o a_o direct_a badge_n and_o test_n of_o own_v erastianism_n and_o prelacy_n in_o opposition_n to_o the_o covenant_n &_o work_n of_o reformation_n so_o that_o its_o a_o case_n of_o confession_n now_o to_o adhere_v to_o a_o faithful_a ministry_n contend_v for_o it_o 3._o there_o be_v no_o other_o way_n to_o exoner_n our_o conscience_n before_o god_n and_o the_o world_n and_o declare_v our_o nonconformitie_n to_o this_o course_n of_o backslide_v but_o by_o this_o practice_n there_o be_v no_o get_n of_o wrong_n redress_v or_o corruption_n in_o the_o ministry_n remove_v thus_o the_o apology_n pag._n 272._o 4._o we_o be_v in_o the_o covenant_n engage_v against_o indifferency_n in_o this_o great_a work_n of_o reformation_n and_o be_v not_o this_o the_o way_n to_o fall_v into_o it_o more_o and_o more_o 5._o we_o engage_v that_o we_o shall_v endeavour_v that_o this_o work_n of_o reformation_n shall_v remain_v inviolable_a to_o posterity_n but_o what_o memory_n shall_v the_o posterity_n have_v of_o this_o work_n if_o prelate_n and_o curate_n be_v thus_o submit_v unto_o 6._o we_o engage_v
opposition_n in_o our_o capacity_n to_o all_o prelatic_a malignant_a enemy_n of_o the_o lord_n work_v and_o interest_n but_o how_o be_v it_o perform_v when_o we_o thus_o strengthen_v their_o hand_n in_o their_o avow_a opposition_n thereunto_o 7._o how_o assist_v we_o and_o defend_v in_o this_o common_a cause_n of_o religion_n and_o liberty_n such_o as_o enter_v into_o this_o league_n when_o we_o thus_o divide_v from_o our_o suffer_a brethren_n wound_n and_o offend_v they_o and_o shake_v off_o a_o faithful_a covenant-keeping_a ministry_n 8_o how_o maintain_v we_o our_o reform_a doctrine_n worship_n and_o union_n when_o thus_o own_v false_a prophet_n and_o the_o instruction_n that_o cause_v to_o err_v from_o the_o word_n of_o knowledge_n and_o such_o as_o cause_v division_n and_o offence_n contrary_a to_o the_o doctrine_n we_o have_v learnt_a prov._n 19_o 27._o rom._n 16._o 17_o 18._o 9_o how_o maintain_v we_o the_o privilege_n of_o our_o church_n and_o her_o reform_a government_n when_o own_v intrude_a prelate_n and_o their_o creature_n as_o minister_n of_o this_o church_n and_o disow_v her_o true_a minister_n now_o take_v she_o by_o the_o hand_n this_o practice_n be_v one_fw-mi approve_v of_o curate_n call_v and_o mission_n rather_o than_o that_o of_o presbyterian_a minister_n which_o no_o man_n will_v deny_v to_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o covenant_n next_o own_v and_o adhere_v to_o curate_n in_o this_o our_o case_n and_o according_a to_o our_o principle_n have_v a_o accession_n to_o much_o guilt_n otherwise_o such_o as_o 1._o the_o own_n of_o a_o palpable_o blast_v and_o disow_v a_o palpable_o seal_v ministry_n 2_o a_o high_a reflection_n on_o the_o suffering_n of_o many_o godly_a upon_o this_o ground_n 3._o a_o shut_n of_o our_o eye_n against_o ministerial_a discovery_n of_o the_o sin_n and_o duty_n of_o the_o time_n 4._o a_o cast_v of_o ourselves_o on_o tentation_n of_o great_a compliance_n 5._o a_o break_n of_o fellowship_n with_o these_o that_o be_v contend_v for_o god_n work_n and_o deny_v a_o sympathy_n with_o they_o yea_o a_o trample_n on_o their_o blood_n which_o have_v be_v shed_v on_o this_o ground_n 6._o a_o disow_v the_o ministerial_a authority_n and_o tear_v the_o commission_n of_o christ_n faithful_a ambassador_n and_o deprive_v ourselves_o of_o the_o blessing_n and_o benefit_n of_o their_o labour_n etc._n etc._n 5._o this_o practice_n of_o deny_v a_o subjection_n to_o the_o ministry_n of_o conformist_n and_o of_o our_o ruler_n demand_v conformity_n therein_o unto_o the_o present_a course_n of_o defection_n will_v be_v find_v to_o fall_v under_o great_a scripture_n obligation_n such_o as_o 1._o the_o obligation_n of_o persevere_v in_o integrity_n and_o hold_v it_o fast_o colos._n 1._o 23._o heb._n 10_o 23._o psal._n 25._o 21._o suppose_v prelacy_n unlawful_a and_o the_o bind_a force_n of_o the_o covenant_n in_o reference_n to_o all_o the_o work_n of_o reformation_n as_o it_o stand_v establish_v this_o practice_n be_v clear_o cross_v to_o the_o premise_a obligation_n both_o as_o one_fw-mi acknowledgement_n of_o prelacy_n and_o erastiani_fw-la i_o and_o also_o as_o a_o disow_n of_o faithful_a minister_n 2._o the_o obligation_n of_o keep_v at_o the_o great_a distance_n from_o sin_n express_v judas_n 23._o 1_o thess._n 5._o 22._o 1_o tim._n 5._o 22._o will_v infer_v disow_v curate_n in_o this_o case_n 1._o all_o direct_v or_o interpretative_a consent_n to_o sin_n be_v here_o discharge_v 2._o a_o practice_n otherwise_o lawful_a will_v on_o this_o ground_n become_v inexpedient_a hic_fw-la &_o nunc_fw-la we_o must_v not_o eat_v in_o the_o case_n of_o offence_n though_o we_o may_v free_o eat_v all_o meat_n rom._n 14._o 14._o 1_o cor._n 10._o 25._o now_o on_o the_o forementiond_v supposition_n the_o own_n of_o curate_n have_v a_o accession_n to_o their_o sin_n beyond_o that_o of_o one_fw-mi apearance_n or_o a_o touch_n it_o be_v both_o a_o desert_v the_o presbyterian_a ministry_n and_o a_o badge_n of_o conformity_n to_o erastian_n prelacy_n and_o all_o the_o corruption_n and_o defection_n of_o the_o time_n which_o be_v thereby_o advance_v &_o promote_v it_o be_v also_o in_o this_o case_n of_o competition_n a_o deliberate_a adherence_n to_o the_o prelatic_a rather_o than_o presbyterian_a interest_n 3._o the_o great_a obligation_n of_o a_o testimony_n to_o truth_n and_o duty_n express_v heb._n 10._o 23._o mat._n 10._o 32._o will_v plead_v for_o this_o practice_n all_o truth_n must_v be_v avow_v &_o practical_o avow_v we_o must_v walk_v circumspect_o or_o exact_o as_o the_o word_n import_v &_o we_o must_v avow_v truth_n &_o duty_n on_o the_o great_a hazard_n even_o the_o small_a mater_fw-la be_v great_a when_o a_o testimony_n be_v concern_v in_o it_o be_v it_o but_o the_o circumstance_n of_o a_o open_a window_n daniel_n dare_v not_o ommit_v it_o upon_o the_o great_a hazard_n and_o as_o this_o testimony_n must_v be_v full_a so_o must_v it_o also_o be_v constant_a demas_n shame_n be_v that_o the_o afliction_n of_o the_o gospel_n make_v he_o forsake_v the_o apostle_n after_o great_a appearance_n for_o christ_n and_o embrace_v this_o present_a world_n and_o beside_o whatever_o truth_n or_o duty_n be_v oppose_v that_o become_v the_o special_a object_n of_o this_o testimony_n hence_o minister_n and_o professor_n in_o their_o capacity_n be_v call_v to_o contend_v for_o this_o work_n of_o reformation_n and_o minister_n silence_v as_o to_o a_o ministerial_a testimony_n against_o this_o course_n of_o backslide_v and_o people_n disow_a they_o and_o adhere_v to_o conformist_n be_v so_o palpable_o cross_v thereunto_o as_o nothing_o can_v be_v more_o 4._o this_o practice_n be_v infer_v from_o the_o scripture_n obligation_n to_o guard_v against_o the_o slumble_a and_o offend_v our_o brethren_n express_v 2_o cor._n 6._o 3._o math._n 18._o 6._o 1_o cor._n 10._o 32._o here_o be_v discharge_v any_o dictum_fw-la vel_fw-la factum_fw-la quo_fw-la alius_fw-la deterior_fw-la redditur_fw-la say_v polanus_fw-la whatever_o practice_n give_v occasion_n of_o our_o brother_n sin_v of_o call_v truth_n in_o question_n of_o act_v with_o a_o doubt_v conscience_n or_o which_o weaken_v his_o plerophory_n or_o assurance_n be_v here_o discharge_v and_o neither_o the_o lawfulness_n nor_o indifferency_n of_o the_o thing_n itself_o nor_o man_n authority_n command_v it_o nor_o the_o weakness_n yea_o or_o wickedness_n of_o those_o in_o hazard_n to_o be_v stumble_v will_v warrant_v the_o do_v of_o that_o out_o of_o which_o offence_n arise_v paul_n declare_v all_o meat_n lawful_a yet_o will_v not_o eat_v in_o case_n of_o offence_n 1_o cor._n 10._o 25._o 1_o cor._n 8._o 13._o this_o declare_v of_o the_o lawfulness_n of_o that_o practice_n be_v equivalent_a to_o any_o civil_a declarator_n or_o law_n which_o alter_v not_o the_o nature_n of_o scandal_n paul_n will_v not_o have_v the_o weak_a stumble_v rom._n 14._o 1_o 2_o 3._o 1_o cor._n 8._o 11_o 12._o nor_o give_v occasion_n to_o the_o malicious_a who_o desire_a occasion_n 2_o cor._n 11._o 12._o now_o own_v of_o curate_n as_o the_o case_n be_v now_o circumstantiat_fw-la do_v harden_v they_o in_o their_o apostasy_n and_o have_v a_o tendency_n to_o wound_v the_o peace_n of_o the_o godly_a who_o dare_v not_o own_v they_o or_o may_v provoke_v they_o to_o act_v against_o their_o light_n and_o therefore_o unless_o own_v they_o can_v be_v prove_v a_o necessary_a duty_n as_o matter_n now_o stand_v the_o premisd_a scripture_n obligation_n will_v infer_v it_o to_o be_v sinful_a 5._o disow_a conformist_n will_v clear_o follow_v from_o the_o scripture_n obligation_n to_o turn_v away_o from_o seducer_n and_o such_o as_o turn_v aside_o from_o god_n way_n 2_o tim._n 3._o 1._o the_o apostle_n have_v give_v a_o large_a induction_n of_o evil_n adhere_v to_o these_o in_o the_o last_o day_n put_v among_o the_o rest_n of_o their_o black_a theta_n covenant_n break_v conclude_v his_o discovery_n with_o this_o grand_a precept_n ver_fw-la 5._o from_o such_o turn_n away_o we_o must_v beware_v of_o false_a prophet_n the_o concision_n and_o of_o such_o as_o walk_v not_o according_a to_o the_o receive_a ordinance_n math._n 7._o 15._o rom._n 16._o 17._o philip._n 3._o 2._o 2_o thess._n 3._o 6._o christ_n sheep_n do_v flee_v from_o the_o stranger_n and_o hear_v not_o his_o voice_n john_n 10_o 27._o 1._o all_o promoter_n of_o way_n contrary_a to_o the_o simplicity_n of_o the_o gospel_n be_v here_o command_v to_o be_v eschew_v 2._o we_o must_v know_v and_o discover_v such_o by_o their_o fruit_n and_o practical_a unfaithfulness_n as_o well_o as_o false_a doctrine_n mat._n 7._o 16._o compare_v with_o 2_o tim._n 3._o these_o that_o practical_o act_v the_o fox_n cant._n 2._o 15._o be_v to_o be_v take_v away_o and_o consequent_o eschew_v the_o saint_n must_v be_v fortify_v against_o these_o that_o lie_v in_o wait_n to_o deceive_v god_n disow_v these_o that_o make_v sad_a the_o heart_n of_o the_o godly_a and_o
strengthen_v the_o hand_n of_o evil_a doer_n ezek_n 13._o 22._o such_o as_o stand_v not_o in_o his_o counsel_n jer._n 33._o 22._o &_o cause_n people_n to_o err_v by_o their_o lie_n and_o lightness_n jer._n 26._o 32._o now_o upon_o the_o forementiond_v supposition_n its_o clear_a that_o conformist_n be_v lead_v aside_o from_o our_o reformation_n oppose_v the_o principle_n &_o privilege_n of_o this_o church_n they_o be_v covenant_n breaker_n from_o who_o we_o be_v to_o turn_v away_o they_o be_v speak_v peace_n to_o the_o wicked_a and_o heal_v the_o wound_n slight_o and_o be_v rule_v with_o force_n and_o rigour_n ezek._n 34._o 4._o 1_o pet._n 5._o 3._o witness_v their_o present_a violence_n 6._o this_o practice_n of_o presbyterian_a minister_n officiate_a in_o opposition_n to_o this_o course_n and_o people_n adherence_n to_o their_o ministry_n be_v infer_v from_o the_o scripture_n obligation_n of_o many_o terrible_a charge_n and_o adjuration_n lay_v upon_o minister_n in_o reference_n to_o a_o faithful_a diligence_n in_o their_o ministerial_a function_n and_o a_o suitable_a ministerial_a testimony_n concern_v the_o sin_n and_o duty_n of_o the_o time_n which_o be_v necessary_o inclusive_a of_o their_o people_n reciprocal_a diligence_n in_o attend_v their_o ministry_n and_o their_o obedience_n and_o faithful_a adherence_n according_o they_o be_v command_v to_o cry_v aloud_o and_o show_v the_o people_n their_o sin_n isa._n 58._o 1._o and_o as_o they_o will_v not_o have_v the_o blood_n of_o soul_n upon_o they_o to_o give_v faithful_a warning_n touch_v sin_n and_o duty_n and_o their_o people_n case_n and_o hazard_n especial_o in_o time_n of_o great_a sin_n and_o judgement_n when_o god_n be_v terrible_o plead_v his_o controversy_n with_o they_o ezek._n 3._o 17._o hence_o they_o be_v enjoin_v to_o be_v instant_a in_o season_n and_o out_o of_o season_n reprove_v rebuke_v and_o exhort_v with_o all_o long_a suffering_n and_o doctrine_n 2_o tim._n 4._o 1._o and_o as_o faithful_a watchman_n on_o jerusalem_n wall_n never_o to_o hold_v their_o peace_n day_n nor_o night_n till_o she_o be_v establish_v and_o make_v a_o praise_n in_o the_o earth_n isa._n 62._o 6._o to_o fulfil_v and_o make_v full_a pro●…fe_n of_o their_o ministry_n colloss_n 4._o 17._o and_o as_o these_o command_n in_o order_n to_o ministerial_a diligence_n do_v singular_o oblige_v herunto_o in_o this_o case_n so_o the_o scripture_n woe_n and_o threaten_n thunder_v against_o minister_n negligence_n and_o unfaithfulness_n be_v very_a convince_a and_o awaken_n see_v ezek._n chap._n 3._o and_o chap._n 13._o 5._o 6_o hence_o on_o the_o forementiond_v supposition_n it_o clear_o follow_v 1._o that_o minister_n be_v oblige_v to_o be_v constant_o instant_a in_o season_n and_o out_o of_o season_n in_o their_o ministerial_a testimony_n against_o this_o course_n of_o defection_n 2._o this_o case_n of_o defection_n and_o persecution_n ampliat_n and_o extend_v this_o duty_n to_o all_o to_o who_o they_o can_v have_v access_n as_o the_o scatter_a preacher_n acts._n 8._o go_v every_o where_o preach_v the_o gospel_n after_o that_o persecution_n that_o arise_v about_o stephen_n 3._o this_o ministerial_a testimony_n upon_o the_o forementioned_a ground_n must_v be_v level_v at_o all_o the_o corruption_n of_o the_o time_n and_o all_o the_o branch_n and_o degree_n of_o our_o defection_n 4._o the_o duty_n and_o obligation_n of_o the_o people_n of_o god_n be_v reciprocal_a and_o commensurable_a thereunto_o and_o if_o hear_v curate_n and_o disow_a presbyterian_a minister_n be_v not_o inconsistent_a with_o this_o great_a obligation_n let_v any_o judge_n 6._o that_o part●…_n in_o a_o reform_a church_n which_o have_v overturnd_v her_o reformation_n have_v shut_v out_o lay_v aside_o and_o persecute_v away_o sound_a adherer_n thereunto_o both_o minister_n and_o professor_n and_o will_v not_o admit_v minister_n to_o officiat_fw-la but_o upon_o the_o sinful_a term_n of_o compliance_n with_o their_o way_n can_v charge_v the_o sound_a party_n with_o schism_n in_o stand_v where_o they_o be_v &_o own_v and_o prosecute_n their_o respective_a duty_n as_o minister_n and_o flock_n in_o opposition_n to_o these_o overturner_n and_o backslider_n for_o this_o will_v justify_v the_o most_o ingraind_a schism_n that_o ever_o be_v hear_v of_o now_o so_o the_o case_n be_v here_o for_o all_o presbyterian_a minister_n be_v cast_v out_o and_o they_o and_o all_o sound_a professor_n adhere_v to_o they_o persecute_v unless_o they_o will_v retract_v their_o principle_n and_o conform_v to_o prelacy_n minister_n in_o take_v up_o a_o new_a tenor_n and_o exercise_n of_o their_o ministry_n in_o a_o precarious_a servile_a dependence_n upon_o erastian_n prelacy_n head_a and_o influence_v by_o a_o mere_a civil_a papacy_n and_o people_n in_o subject_v themselves_o to_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o servile_a depute_v of_o erastian_n prelate_n as_o a_o badge_n of_o their_o hearty_a compliance_n with_o and_o submission_n unto_o this_o blasphemous_a supremacy_n and_o consent_n to_o the_o overturning_a of_o the_o pure_a constitution_n and_o reformation_n of_o this_o church_n so_o that_o the_o presbyterian_o their_o plea_n be_v a_o own_n of_o duty_n against_o schismatic_n disow_v it_o do_v not_o our_o divine_n tell_v the_o romanist_n on_o this_o ground_n that_o they_o have_v separate_v and_o persecute_v we_o away_o from_o they_o and_o that_o therefore_o the_o schism_n lie_v upon_o themselves_o not_o on_o we_o so_o the_o case_n be_v here_o let_v this_o man_n say_v what_o will_v have_v be_v the_o judgement_n of_o our_o church_n in_o any_o of_o her_o former_a judicatory_n anent_o a_o party_n own_v such_o principle_n as_o conformist_n do_v and_o persecute_v or_o cast_v out_o all_o that_o oppose_v they_o and_o dare_v not_o concur_v in_o their_o course_n of_o backslide_v in_o overturning_a the_o swear_a reformation_n of_o this_o church_n i_o dare_v appeal_n to_o the_o informer_n himself_o if_o such_o will_v not_o have_v be_v judge_v censurable_a as_o the_o worst_a of_o schismatic_n and_o he_o can_v assign_v nothing_o now_o to_o turn_v or_o cast_v the_o scale_n no_o ground_n of_o disparity_n unless_o he_o place_v it_o in_o this_o that_o prelatist_n be_v the_o great_a number_n and_o have_v the_o civil_a power_n on_o their_o side_n and_o if_o this_o pitiful_a plea_n will_v carry_v it_o the_o romanist_n have_v long_o since_o outweigh_v the_o protestant_n church_n in_o this_o debate_n which_o this_o man_n will_v not_o for_o very_a shame_n admit_v 7._o this_o practice_n of_o adhere_v to_o presbyterian_a minister_n and_o disow_a curate_n have_v nothing_o of_o the_o ingredient_n of_o schismor_n sinful_a separation_n from_o this_o church_n include_v therein_o as_o matter_n now_o stand_v and_o as_o the_o question_n be_v state_v on_o the_o forementioned_a hypothesis_n which_o will_v appear_v in_o these_o clear_a position_n in_o the_o point_n of_o schism_n which_o be_v evident_a in_o their_o own_o light_n be_v apply_v and_o bring_v home_o to_o our_o present_a case_n 1._o schism_n be_v a_o start_n out_o from_o under_o due_a relation_n to_o a_o church_n and_o from_o her_o ministry_n and_o duty_n according_o but_o in_o this_o our_o case_n and_o practice_v under_o debate_n minister_n and_o professor_n be_v pursue_v the_o duty_n of_o their_o respective_a relation_n to_o this_o church_n as_o it_o stand_v reform_v and_o establish_v before_o these_o innovation_n and_o the_o apostate_n prelatick_fw-mi party_n be_v do_v the_o contrary_a 2._o in_o a_o sinful_a schismatic_a separation_n it_o be_v always_o suppose_a that_o the_o withdraw_a be_v from_o those_o who_o be_v hold_v the_o communion_n of_o the_o true_a church_n otherwise_o we_o lose_v the_o basis_n and_o fundation_n of_o all_o sound_a definition_n of_o schism_n but_o here_o the_o persecute_v party_n be_v own_v the_o reformation_n of_o this_o pure_a church_n against_o a_o party_n of_o separatist_n who_o have_v break_v her_o order_n union_n and_o national_a vow_n and_o who_o be_v also_o censurable_a by_o all_o her_o stand_a act_n 3._o in_o a_o proper_a schismatic_a separation_n the_o principle_n and_o practice_n of_o these_o from_o who_o the_o separation_n be_v make_v be_v suppose_v to_o be_v subservient_fw-fr to_o that_o church_n union_n right_a establishment_n and_o for_o maintain_v her_o communion_n but_o to_o separat_fw-la from_o those_o who_o principle_n and_o practice_n be_v a_o state_v opposition_n and_o in_o so_o far_o as_o a_o opposition_n to_o her_o purity_n and_o reformation_n be_v to_o maintain_v her_o true_a union_n and_o communion_n and_o not_o sinful_o to_o separat_fw-la from_o it_o the_o assumption_n as_o to_o this_o practice_n under_o debate_n may_v be_v clear_v by_o a_o large_a induction_n of_o particular_n if_o we_o take_v a_o view_n of_o the_o two_o party_n presbyterian_a and_o prelatical_a their_o carriage_n in_o relation_n to_o this_o church_n it_o will_v be_v evident_a 1._o in_o general_n that_o conformist_n their_o principle_n and_o practice_n be_v a_o
direct_a impeachment_n of_o our_o establish_a reformation_n and_o that_o presbyterian_o be_v maintain_v and_o adhere_v to_o the_o same_o 2._o conformist_n do_v avowed_o disowne_v and_o abjure_v our_o covenant_n presbyterian_o adhere_v unto_o and_o own_o the_o same_o 3._o conformist_n be_v break_v and_o dissipate_v our_o church_n establish_v order_n and_o union_n presbyterian_o be_v in_o this_o practice_n contend_v for_o both_o the_o one_o party_n be_v wound_v our_o church_n both_o by_o persecution_n and_o reproach_n the_o other_o be_v take_v she_o by_o the_o hand_n endeavour_v her_o help_n and_o comfort_n in_o this_o her_o deep_a distress_n and_o so_o the_o covenant_n oblige_v to_o disowne_v the_o first_o and_o adhere_v to_o the_o second_o 4._o the_o one_o be_v censurable_a by_o she_o the_o other_o deserve_v her_o praise_n now_o can_v there_o be_v any_o question_n in_o this_o to_o which_o of_o these_o party_n people_n be_v oblige_v to_o adhere_v according_a to_o the_o principle_n of_o our_o reformation_n in_o the_o four_o place_n in_o a_o sinful_a separation_n as_o to_o communion_n in_o worship_n it_o must_v be_v suppose_v the_o worship_n of_o that_o church_n own_v and_o establish_v therein_o because_o a_o party_n innovate_a herein_o as_o well_o as_o innovate_a in_o doctrine_n and_o government_n contrary_a to_o that_o which_o be_v establish_v be_v hactenus_fw-la and_o ipso_fw-la facto_fw-la in_o this_o their_o practice_n and_o upon_o this_o very_a ground_n schismatics_n both_o in_o their_o worship_n and_o government_n therefore_o to_o disowne_v they_o therein_o can_v be_v no_o schism_n for_o this_o will_v involve_v a_o palpable_a contradiction_n that_o these_o withdrawer_n in_o this_o same_o practice_n and_o in_o the_o same_o respect_n and_o circumstance_n thereof_o be_v schismatic_n and_o not_o schismatic_n now_o prelatist_n their_o doctrine_n be_v new_a and_o odd_a and_o not_o the_o voice_n of_o this_o church_n and_o their_o worship_n over_z and_o above_o the_o corruption_n adhere_v to_o it_o be_v the_o worship_n of_o a_o innovate_a party_n and_o contrary_a to_o our_o church_n establish_v order_n and_o therefore_o to_o disowne_v they_o therein_o be_v no_o sinful_a separation_n from_o this_o church_n her_o fellowship_n and_o worship_n while_o exist_v in_o her_o sound_n and_o pure_a part_n and_o oppose_v these_o innovation_n 5._o in_o schismatic_a separation_n the_o rent_n be_v make_v in_o the_o bowel_n of_o the_o true_a and_o genuine_a church_n so_o that_o when_o a_o schism_n and_o rent_n be_v state_v betwixt_o a_o godly_a ministry_n contend_v for_o a_o pure_a church_n reformation_n against_o a_o apostate_n party_n of_o the_o ministry_n the_o sound_a professor_n stand_v preoblige_v to_o adhere_v unto_o and_o strength●…n_o the_o sound_a part_n upon_o this_o very_a ground_n of_o hold_v the_o union_n and_o communion_n of_o that_o pure_a church_n against_o these_o backslider_n suppose_v they_o will_v rend_v and_o ruin_v she_o if_o not_o oppose_v and_o so_o the_o case_n be_v here_o the_o union_n and_o order_n of_o this_o church_n be_v already_o break_a by_o the_o prelatic_a innovator_n and_o backslider_n and_o by_o they_o only_o so_o that_o upon_o the_o supposal_n of_o this_o fix_a schism_n the_o people_n of_o god_n must_v adhere_v to_o the_o sound_a church_n and_o ministry_n and_o in_o this_o extreme_a necessity_n the_o lesser_a obligation_n as_o to_o parochial_a order_n must_v give_v place_n to_o the_o great_a duty_n of_o preserve_v and_o maintain_v the_o church_n union_n and_o reformation_n when_o a_o course_n be_v carry_v on_o tend_v to_o ruin_v it_o 6._o every_o sinful_a separation_n be_v from_o the_o fellowship_n of_o a_o church_n either_o in_o her_o ministry_n lawful_a court_n or_o worship_n and_o ordinance_n according_a to_o the_o various_a relation_n state_n and_o condition_n of_o separatist_n whether_o church_n officer_n or_o other_o but_o in_o this_o our_o case_n presbyterian_a minister_n and_o professor_n separat_fw-la in_o none_o of_o these_o respect_n from_o the_o genuine_a church_n of_o scotland_n 1._o minister_n separate_v not_o from_o her_o court_n for_o none_o of_o her_o lawful_a court_n be_v now_o public_o own_a or_o existent_a 2._o people_z separate_z not_o from_o her_o worship_n as_o it_o stand_v reform_v and_o vow_v unto_o when_o they_o own_o the_o ordinance_n dispense_v by_o her_o true_a pastor_n for_o that_o only_o be_v the_o true_a worship_n of_o this_o church_n nor_o 3_o from_o her_o doctrine_n and_o a_o due_a subjection_n to_o her_o faithful_a pastor_n in_o the_o lord_n and_o therefore_o neither_o from_o the_o fellowship_n of_o her_o faithful_a minister_n and_o professor_n where_o be_v then_o the_o schism_n since_o both_o the_o doctrine_n worship_n and_o government_n of_o this_o true_a church_n be_v own_v and_o backslider_n and_o schismatic_n only_a and_o as_o such_o be_v disownd_v 7._o schism_n suppose_v that_o these_o who_o we_o withdraw_v from_o be_v such_o to_o who_o we_o be_v under_o obligation_n to_o adhere_v for_o it_o be_v a_o breach_n of_o union_n which_o be_v cement_v and_o conglutinate_v by_o the_o obligation_n and_o duty_n of_o those_o who_o be_v concern_v to_o hold_v it_o fast_o so_o that_o where_o the_o obligation_n to_o the_o duty_n in_o subserviency_n to_o this_o union_n can_v be_v demonstrate_v to_o be_v incumbent_a upon_o such_o and_o such_o person_n and_o in_o such_o act_n by_o who_o and_o wherein_o this_o union_n be_v to_o be_v uphold_v the_o charge_n of_o schism_n upon_o these_o act_n which_o be_v suppose_v to_o violat_a that_o union_n evanish_v and_o fall_v to_o the_o ground_n but_o if_o the_o person_n though_o a_o minister_n suppose_a from_o who_o the_o separation_n be_v make_v want_v that_o which_o immediate_o ground_n this_o obligation_n of_o own_v h●…m_n hic_fw-la &_o nunc_fw-la as_o the_o case_n stand_v circumstantiat_fw-la in_o that_o respect_n withdraw_v or_o non-union_n can_v be_v no_o schism_n for_o else_o the_o most_o ingraind_a schismatic_n may_v be_v own_v the_o informer_n himself_o must_v of_o necessity_n admit_v this_o for_o otherwise_o he_o will_v cross_v and_o cut_v the_o sinew_n of_o all_o his_o plead_n and_o argument_n which_o he_o present_v in_o this_o dialogue_n for_o disow_a presbyterian_a minister_n in_o this_o our_o case_n for_o i_o be_o confident_a that_o out_o of_o this_o circumstanciat_a case_n he_o will_v grant_v that_o it_o be_v no_o breach_n of_o any_o of_o his_o rule_n or_o reason_n to_o hear_v they_o that_o they_o be_v minister_n and_o be_v preach_v faith_n and_o repentance_n that_o they_o have_v a_o lawful_a ministerial_a call_n and_o ordination_n etc._n etc._n all_o these_o he_o think_v will_v plead_v nothing_o as_o the_o case_n be_v now_o circumstantiat_fw-la for_o adhere_v to_o they_o because_o of_o that_o in_o their_o present_a condition_n which_o outweigh_v all_o this_o and_o lose_v people_n obligation_n to_o own_v they_o which_o he_o think_v be_v no_o schism_n but_o duty_n now_o let_v our_o informer_n turn_v the_o table_n if_o there_o be_v first_o that_o in_o curate_n present_a state_n which_o preponderats_n as_o to_o our_o disow_n of_o they_o now_o though_o all_o that_o he_o plead_v as_o to_o their_o ordination_n and_o ministerial_a call_n be_v grant_v it_o be_v no_o schism_n in_o this_o our_o case_n to_o disowne_v they_o according_a to_o his_o own_o principle_n and_o plead_n in_o this_o point_n 2._o he_o must_v grant_v that_o deny_v to_o hear_v hic_fw-la &_o nunc_fw-la and_o in_o such_o a_o complex_fw-la case_n be_v different_a from_o a_o deny_v to_o hear_v simpliciter_fw-la or_o disow_v such_o a_o man_n ministry_n simpliciter_fw-la or_o absolute_o as_o he_o will_v grant_v that_o out_o of_o this_o case_n presbyterian_a minister_n may_v be_v hear_v and_o that_o disow_v they_o be_v not_o simpliciter_fw-la a_o disow_a a_o true_a ministry_n or_o church_n or_o they_o as_o minister_n so_o that_o its_o this_o case_n of_o competition_n with_o conformist_n which_o with_o he_o cast_v the_o balance_n hence_o as_o matter_n now_o be_v state_v and_o circumstantiat_fw-la and_o upon_o our_o principle_n and_o premise_a hypothesis_n he_o must_v grant_v there_o be_v that_o in_o conformists_n case_n which_o hic_fw-mi &_o nunc_fw-la will_n loose_v our_o obligation_n to_o receive_v the_o ordinance_n from_o they_o as_o the_o minister_n of_o this_o church_n which_o be_v the_o white_a in_o the_o mark_n whereat_o all_o his_o arrow_n be_v shoot_v such_o as_o 1._o that_o we_o be_v preoblige_v by_o a_o lawful_a oath_n to_o extirpate_v and_o disowne_v they_o 2._o that_o they_o be_v promoter_n of_o a_o prelatic_a design_n to_o ruin_v our_o reformation_n 3._o that_o they_o have_v avowed_o disownd_v our_o covenant_n and_o that_o we_o be_v command_v by_o the_o overturner_n of_o our_o covenant_v reformation_n to_o hear_v they_o as_o a_o badge_n of_o our_o renounce_n it_o and_o concur_v in_o this_o course_n of_o backslide_v 4._o that_o they_o be_v intruder_n and_o not_o enter_v in_o
fundation_n other_o prayer_n according_a to_o every_o one_o occasion_n agustine_n epist_n 121._o tell_v we_o that_o liberum_fw-la est_fw-la it_o be_v free_a to_o ask_v what_o be_v in_o the_o lord_n prayer_n alijs_fw-la atque_fw-la alijs_fw-la modis_fw-la some_o time_n one_o way_n sometime_o another_o likewise_o justin_n martyr_n apol._n 2._o tell_v we_o that_o he_o who_o instruct_v the_o people_n pray_v according_a to_o his_o ability_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d we_o may_v also_o tell_v he_o of_o bishop_n andrews_n success_n or_o rather_o disappointment_n in_o seek_v a_o old_a jewish_a liturgy_n which_o when_o send_v to_o cambridge_n to_o be_v translate_v be_v find_v to_o be_v compose_v long_o after_o the_o jew_n rejection_n so_o the_o bishop_n be_v ashamed_a suffer_v this_o notion_n to_o die_v and_o the_o liturgy_n never_o see_v the_o light_n see_v smectim_n and_o didoclav_n pag._n 615_o 16_o 17_o 18_o 19_o &_o seq_n 2._o what_o consequence_n be_v this_o that_o because_o we_o disowne_v a_o schismatic_a party_n of_o innovator_n introduce_v these_o corruption_n mention_v ergo_fw-la we_o disowne_v they_o as_o no_o church_n wherein_o these_o have_v be_v admit_v must_v we_o bring_v in_o or_o comply_v with_o every_o corruption_n once_o purge_v out_o the_o retain_v whereof_o may_v be_v consistent_a with_o the_o essence_n of_o a_o true_a church_n what_o consequence_n or_o reason_n be_v here_o again_o do_v not_o he_o and_o all_o his_o brethren_n stand_v in_o direct_a opposition_n to_o the_o order_n and_o government_n of_o the_o presbyterian_a church_n of_o this_o nation_n and_o unto_o all_o that_o own_o be_v the_o same_o will_v he_o then_o admit_v this_o consequence_n that_o he_o unchurche_n she_o before_o prelacy_n come_v in_o and_o other_o reform_a church_n govern_v presbyterial_o so_o we_o see_v himself_o must_v acknowledge_v this_o his_o reason_v naught_o the_o doubter_n allege_v that_o these_o thing_n mention_v be_v of_o late_a date_n than_o the_o apostle_n to_o this_o he_o answer_v that_o bishop_n be_v from_o the_o apostle_n time_n the_o contrary_a whereof_o we_o have_v prove_v either_o as_o to_o diocesan_n or_o erastian_n bishop_n such_o as_o he_o mean_v yea_o even_o a_o proestos_fw-la which_o in_o the_o apostolic_a age_n have_v no_o place_n as_o we_o have_v make_v appear_v next_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o polycrates_n in_o the_o debate_n about_o keep_v of_o esther_n with_o victor_n bishop_n of_o rome_n allege_v johns_n authority_n but_o how_o prove_v he_o this_o be_v the_o question_n not_o what_o he_o allege_v sure_o bear_v allege_v as_o in_o other_o case_n so_o special_o in_o divinity_n be_v bad_a probation_n then_o he_o ask_v if_o we_o will_v hence_o infer_v that_o they_o be_v no_o good_a christian_n who_o use_v these_o thing_n suppose_v that_o they_o come_v in_o after_o the_o apostle_n time_n i_o answer_v we_o think_v that_o in_o so_o far_o as_o innovate_a they_o be_v not_o sound_a christian_n and_o so_o must_v he_o think_v unless_o he_o will_v be_v wise_a above_o what_o the_o apostle_n have_v write_v then_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o from_o rom._n 14._o it_o appear_v that_o albeit_o some_o thought_n he_o shall_v say_v understand_v and_o know_v that_o by_o their_o christian_a liberty_n they_o be_v fir_v from_o the_o ceremonial_a law_n and_o therefore_o make_v no_o distinction_n of_o day_n or_o meat_n yet_o paul_n enjoin_v they_o to_o bear_v with_o the_o weak_a to_o account_v they_o brethren_n and_o not_o despise_v they_o and_o the_o weak_a be_v not_o to_o judge_v the_o strong_a ans._n 1._o how_o prove_v he_o that_o the_o point_n in_o controversy_n viz._n prelacy_n lay_v aside_o our_o vow_n and_o covenant_n erastianism_n liturgy_n and_o festival-daye_n for_o mystical_a end_n and_o use_n be_v such_o nothing_o or_o indifferent_a matter_n as_o meat_n or_o day_n be_v at_o that_o time_n wherein_o pro_fw-la re_fw-mi nata_fw-la the_o church_n may_v use_v her_o liberty_n as_o for_o diocesan_n erastian_n prelacy_n we_o have_v make_v its_o antiscriptural_a complexion_n to_o appear_v so_o that_o it_o be_v not_o within_o the_o compass_n of_o any_o lawful_a liberty_n of_o the_o church_n to_o embrace_v or_o establish_v it_o we_o have_v also_o make_v the_o bind_a force_n of_o the_o covenant_n appear_v and_o that_o the_o lay_v aside_o of_o they_o consequent_o be_v a_o horrid_a guiltyness_n which_o this_o liberty_n can_v never_o be_v extend_v unto_o likewise_o the_o liturgy_n and_o impose_v of_o set_a form_n of_o prayer_n and_o adstrict_v public_a worship_n thereunto_o have_v be_v sufficient_o impugn_a from_o scripture_n and_o divine_a reason_n by_o several_a of_o the_o godly_a learned_a and_o discover_v to_o impeach_v the_o spiritual_a liberty_n of_o gospel_n worship_n the_o holy_a day_n also_o have_v with_o the_o same_o evidence_n be_v impugn_a by_o our_o divine_n who_o have_v prove_v that_o they_o do_v impinge_a upon_o our_o christian_a liberty_n be_v contrary_a to_o the_o fouth_z command_n enjoin_v work_n all_o the_o six_o day_n except_o on_o such_o occasional_a fast_n and_o feast_n as_o be_v hold_v out_o in_o the_o word_n &_o likewise_o be_v reprobate_a by_o the_o new_a testament_n prohibition_n about_o superstitious_a observation_n of_o day_n the_o jewish_a day_n be_v abrogat_fw-la as_o the_o informer_n can_v but_o grant_v how_o dare_v we_o impose_v upon_o ourselves_o a_o new_a yoke_n if_o it_o be_v here_o pertinent_a to_o dilate_v upon_o these_o point_n our_o principle_n herein_o may_v be_v abundant_o fortify_v and_o the_o truth_n clear_v to_o his_o conviction_n and_o by_o consequence_n the_o impertinency_n of_o this_o parallel_a argument_n and_o his_o pityful_a p●…_n 1._o 10_o principii_fw-la in_o equiparate_v the_o point_n now_o controver_v with_o these_o thing_n which_o be_v the_o object_n of_o christian_a liberty_n the_o informer_n give_v we_o nothing_o here_o but_o magisterial_a dictate_v again_o that_o tolerance_n which_o the_o apostle_n speak_v of_o as_o to_o day_n and_o meat_n relate_v to_o that_o time_n and_o case_n only_o of_o the_o weak_a jew_n when_o the_o ceremony_n though_o dead_a be_v not_o yet_o bury_v as_o they_o be_v to_o be_v honourable_o especial_o while_n the_o temple_n of_o jerusalem_n stand_v and_o the_o legal_a worship_n therein_o by_o god_n providence_n be_v continue_v but_o as_o these_o observance_n be_v ever_o discharge_v to_o the_o gentile_n except_o as_o to_o blood_n and_o thing_n strangle_v for_o that_o exigence_n only_o of_o the_o weak_a jew_n so_o after_o when_o christian_n liberty_n be_v know_v and_o this_o particular_a exigence_n be_v over_o and_o the_o ceremony_n bury_v it_o be_v within_o the_o liberty_n of_o no_o church_n to_o unbury_v they_o or_o tolerat_o these_o or_o such_o like_a observance_n in_o other_o final_o this_o very_a text_n condemn_v he_o though_o his_o beg_a supposition_n be_v grant_v for_o 1._o the_o eater_n must_v not_o despise_v he_o that_o eat_v not_o why_o then_o do_v conformist_n pursue_v nonconformist_n with_o such_o grievous_a punishment_n and_o law_n they_o not_o only_o despise_v but_o persecute_v to_o the_o death_n and_o vile_o reproach_v they_o who_o be_v thou_o that_o judge_v another_o man_n servant_n why_o then_o do_v they_o judge_v &_o censure_n nonconformist_n so_o high_o in_o their_o pulpit_n and_o pamphlet_n and_o the_o informer_n in_o this_o as_o schismatic_n of_o as_o deep_a a_o dye_n as_o ever_o the_o church_n be_v infest_a with_o 2._o he_o that_o but_o doubt_n be_v damn_v if_o he_o eat_v say_v the_o apostle_n why_o then_o do_v they_o so_o violent_o press_v conscientious_a doubter_n to_o their_o way_n 3._o if_o thy_o brother_n be_v grieve_v say_v the_o apostle_n with_o thy_o meat_n thou_o walk_v not_o charitable_o why_o then_o be_v they_o so_o uncharitable_a as_o to_o grieve_v nonconformist_n with_o prelatic_a exaction_n if_o the_o judge_a and_o despise_v the_o forbearer_n be_v forbid_v much_o more_o be_v their_o cruel_a edict_n and_o constrain_a law_n whereby_o they_o burden_v the_o conscience_n of_o tender_a forbearer_n in_o this_o case_n the_o practice_n of_o victor_n as_o to_o the_o asian_a church_n be_v no_o doubt_n high_o uncharitable_a but_o it_o be_v so_o main_o because_o of_o his_o censure_v about_o such_o a_o trifle_n as_o esther-observation_n &_o we_o see_v from_o this_o schism_n the_o sad_a effect_n of_o innovation_n and_o that_o the_o church_n unity_n &_o peace_n be_v best_a keep_v by_o adhere_v to_o the_o simplicity_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o so_o our_o depart_n from_o the_o gospel_n simplicity_n in_o point_n of_o government_n and_o introduce_v abjure_v prelacy_n be_v the_o chief_a ground_n of_o the_o present_a schism_n and_o confusion_n in_o this_o church_n but_o now_o follow_v our_o informer_n main_a charge_n of_o external_a schism_n in_o s●…parating_v from_o the_o church_n communion_n in_o word_n and_o sacrament_n contrary_a to_o the_o apostle_n direction_n not_o to_o forsake_v the_o assembly_n heb._n 10._o 25._o it_o
eye_v so_o when_o a_o faithful_a minister_n be_v thus_o due_o call_v and_o settle_v people_n be_v oblige_v to_o own_o his_o ministry_n by_o a_o due_a attendance_n upon_o the_o ordinance_n administer_v by_o he_o which_o be_v all_o that_o decency_n union_n and_o order_n and_o that_o act_n of_o our_o church_n after_o mention_v do_v call_v for_o which_o notwithstanding_o can_v be_v suppose_v to_o exclude_v all_o occasional_a usemaking_n of_o other_o gift_n bestow_v upon_o faithful_a minister_n which_o be_v as_o i_o say_v cross_v to_o the_o communion_n of_o saint_n and_o believer_n interest_n in_o one_o another_o gift_n and_o grace_n but_o 4._o our_o question_n here_o be_v state_v upon_o the_o supposition_n of_o the_o great_a part_n of_o this_o national_a church_n their_o apostasy_n &_o defection_n from_o our_o swear_a reformation_n and_o a_o great_a part_n of_o minister_n and_o professor_n adhere_v to_o their_o principle_n viz._n to_o which_o of_o the_o two_o party_n on_o this_o supposition_n people_n be_v to_o adhere_v in_o worship_n sure_o the_o lord_n palpable_a blast_v the_o backslide_a party_n their_o gift_n as_o to_o any_o save_a success_n and_o on_o the_o contrary_a his_o as_o palpable_a own_n and_o seal_v with_o his_o blessing_n the_o ministry_n of_o his_o faithful_a servant_n adhere_v to_o his_o truth_n be_v a_o loud_o call_v in_o this_o break_a state_n of_o our_o church_n and_o case_n of_o defection_n and_o persecution_n to_o come_v out_o from_o the_o one_o party_n and_o way_n and_o adhere_v to_o the_o other_o so_o his_o doubter_n in_o this_o and_o the_o next_o objection_n shall_v have_v argue_v thus_o in_o this_o case_n of_o defection_n and_o overturning_a of_o our_o reformation_n god_n be_v please_v to_o seal_v with_o a_o palpable_a blessing_n on_o our_o soul_n the_o word_n from_o minister_n adhere_v to_o their_o principle_n we_o may_v safe_o look_v on_o this_o as_o a_o call_v from_o god_n to_o hear_v they_o rather_o than_o the_o prelate_n perjure_v hireling_n who_o ministry_n we_o have_v find_v palpable_o blast_v since_o they_o comply_v with_o ●…his_n course_n of_o perjurious_a back_n side_v and_o opposition_n to_o god_n work_n in_o this_o case_n certain_o its_o a_o argument_n very_o pungent_a and_o found_v on_o that_o of_o jer._n 3._o 31_o 32._o where_o the_o lord_n threaten_v the_o prophet_n who_o cause_v the_o people_n to_o err_v by_o their_o lie_n and_o lightness_n and_o who_o he_o have_v not_o send_v nor_o command_v though_o they_o prophesy_v with_o this_o that_o therefore_o they_o shall_v not_o profit_v the_o people_n at_o all_o so_o the_o argument_n go_v upon_o the_o supposition_n of_o our_o church_n break_v and_o persecute_v state_n and_o a_o competition_n betwixt_o a_o faithful_a ministry_n and_o a_o party_n of_o schismatic_a innovator_n and_o overturner_n of_o our_o reformation_n will_v infer_v nothing_o against_o our_o church_n settle_a order_n under_o presbyterian_a government_n nor_o the_o assembly_n act_n 1647._o presuppose_v the_o same_o and_o it_o be_v not_o mere_o the_o gift_n but_o god_n save_v blessing_n attend_v the_o same_o which_o be_v the_o ground_n of_o this_o argument_n and_o that_o practice_n plead_v for_o thereby_o now_o as_o to_o his_o answer_n it_o be_v palpable_a that_o it_o meet_v not_o this_o argument_n in_o the_o least_o and_o beside_o his_o exclusive_a gloss_n be_v very_o impertinent_a viz._n because_o we_o be_v to_o seek_v the_o best_a and_o edify_a gift_n f●…r_v ourselves_o in_o our_o siation_n therefore_o we_o be_v not_o to_o seek_v the_o best_a in_o other_o also_o what_o consequence_n be_v this_o sure_o the_o informer_n will_v not_o deny_v simpliciter_fw-la that_o people_n be_v to_o seek_v after_o the_o most_o edify_a minister_n and_o this_o will_v follow_v on_o the_o very_a ground_n of_o our_o edification_n which_o we_o be_v to_o design_n in_o seek_v the_o best_a gift_n in_o and_o for_o ourselves_o nay_o the_o one_o be_v the_o great_a mean_a subservient_fw-fr to_o the_o other_o a_o faithful_a edify_a ministry_n be_v god_n method_n for_o win_v to_o the_o best_a gift_n for_o myself_o and_o therefore_o as_o a_o mean_a lead_n to_o this_o end_n fall_v within_o the_o compass_n of_o this_o command_n to_o seek_v and_o covet_v the_o best_a gift_n so_o a_o great_a than_o he_o voetius_fw-la conclude_v it_o a_o duty_n to_o seek_v the_o best_a edify_a ministry_n on_o this_o ground_n de_fw-fr politeia_fw-la eccles._n pag._n 52._o and_o likewise_o on_o these_o scripture_n luk._n 8_o 18_o 1_o thess._n 5._o 22._o and_o remove_v objection_n to_o the_o cotraire_fw-fr his_o second_o answer_n be_v that_o the_o apostle_n be_v there_o press_a unity_n and_o not_o to_o despise_v the_o mean_a gift_n more_o than_o the_o mean_a member_n and_o to_o avoid_v schism_n verse_n 25._o ans._n then_o it_o follow_v that_o in_o the_o sense_n of_o this_o precept_n which_o we_o have_v explain_v seek_v the_o best_a gift_n be_v consistent_a with_o unity_n and_o avoid_v schism_n and_o consequent_o in_o this_o our_o case_n it_o be_v no_o way_n inductive_a to_o schism_n but_o consistent_a with_o a_o due_a esteem_n of_o the_o mean_a gift_a minister_n who_o be_v faithful_a to_o withdraw_v from_o scandalous_a innovator_n who_o have_v already_o fix_v a_o schism_n in_o this_o church_n by_o oppose_v her_o swear_a reformation_n order_n and_o unity_n nay_o as_o matter_n now_o stand_v this_o be_v the_o sure_a way_n to_o keep_v our_o church_n union_n and_o integrity_n since_o this_o their_o course_n have_v such_o a_o clear_a tendency_n to_o the_o ruin_n of_o her_o reformation_n and_o pure_a constitution_n in_o doctrine_n worship_n discipline_n and_o government_n as_o be_v above_o clear_v his_o 3d_o answer_n be_v that_o edification_n be_v to_o be_v seek_v in_o a_o orderly_a way_n not_o in_o a_o way_n that_o mar_v the_o church_n peace_n and_o that_o though_o our_o sense_n of_o this_o general_a direction_n be_v grant_v it_o be_v thus_o to_o be_v understand_v ans._n let_v our_o swear_a establish_a reformation_n its_o principle_n rule_n and_o design_n sit_v in_o judgement_n and_o determine_v who_o be_v great_a enemy_n to_o this_o church_n peace_n and_o order_n they_o or_o we_o be_v not_o this_o church_n privilege_v with_o a_o beautiful_a order_n of_o government_n pure_a gospel-worship_n and_o sound_a doctrine_n before_o prelacy_n be_v introduce_v well_o then_o the_o way_n to_o this_o church_n true_a peace_n union_n and_o order_n must_v be_v in_o oppose_v their_o pretend_a order_n who_o be_v let_v in_o the_o enemy_n and_o have_v break_v her_o wall_n and_o hedge_n many_o of_o they_o say_v and_o swear_v that_o the_o presbyterial_a government_n of_o this_o church_n be_v a_o beautiful_a order_n unto_o which_o since_o they_o stand_v in_o opposition_n they_o be_v the_o most_o orderly_o who_o disowne_v they_o as_o for_o that_o which_o he_o add_v of_o people_n neglect_v minister_n set_v over_o they_o in_o the_o lord_n he_o must_v prove_v that_o conformist_n be_v such_o minister_n who_o be_v both_o scandalous_a for_o the_o far_o great_a part_n in_o their_o carriage_n have_v no_o visible_a badge_n of_o the_o lord_n call_v and_o do_v own_o principle_n and_o carry_v on_o a_o design_n point_fw-fr blank_n contraire_fw-fr to_o our_o reformation_n have_v leave_v the_o people_n conduct_n in_o the_o way_n of_o truth_n give_v up_o all_o their_o ministerial_a authority_n to_o abjure_a prelacy_n and_o make_v it_o their_o work_n to_o destroy_v and_o waste_v the_o lord_n vineyard_n though_o it_o be_v grant_v that_o they_o have_v be_v so_o set_v over_o people_n yet_o since_o they_o be_v trace_v way_n of_o schism_n and_o innovation_n condemn_v by_o our_o church_n christ_n flock_n can_v own_v or_o be_v subject_a to_o they_o as_o their_o soul_n spiritual_a guide_n they_o be_v man_n that_o have_v corrupt_v the_o covenant_n of_o levi_n and_o make_v many_o stumble_v at_o the_o law_n and_o beside_o since_o that_o compliance_n in_o subjection_n to_o conformist_n and_o disow_v of_o presbyterian_a minister_n which_o he_o do_v here_o plead_v for_o be_v in_o very_a deed_n a_o despise_v faithful_a minister_n set_v over_o their_o flock_n by_o the_o lord_n and_o stand_v in_o a_o ministerial_a relation_n to_o they_o and_o who_o consequent_o the_o lord_n people_n be_v call_v to_o honour_n and_o obey_v this_o same_o reason_n whereby_o he_o will_v persuade_v to_o adhere_v to_o the_o conform_v party_n plead_v more_o strong_o against_o they_o and_o his_o rule_n aftermention_v not_o to_o do_v evil_a that_o good_a may_v come_v of_o it_o will_v conclude_v that_o we_o shall_v not_o under_o pretence_n of_o keep_v parochial_a order_n or_o for_o evit_v confusion_n deprive_v ourselves_o of_o the_o blessing_n of_o the_o ministry_n of_o christ_n faithful_a ambassador_n to_o adhere_v unto_o who_o in_o this_o case_n we_o be_v under_o so_o many_o obligation_n as_o for_o the_o canon_n after'cit_v by_o he_o against_o minister_n
of_o his_o own_o blow_n in_o this_o retortion_n strike_v his_o argument_n stark_o dead_a and_o he_o must_v grant_v that_o the_o question_n be_v which_o of_o the_o two_o contend_a party_n have_v best_a right_n to_o officiat_fw-la as_o minister_n in_o the_o church_n of_o scotland_n according_a to_o her_o principle_n and_o reformation_n and_o according_a thereto_o it_o will_v not_o be_v difficult_a to_o determine_v who_o be_v the_o most_o orderly_a &_o to_o be_v hear_v &_o the_o disorderly_a have_v no_o reason_n to_o complain_v 2._o he_o say_v we_o must_v not_o think_v the_o mean_a gift_n useless_a but_o he_o must_v grant_v that_o man_n may_v sinful_o render_v they_o useless_a as_o he_o allege_n presbyterian_a minister_n do_v and_o we_o prove_v that_o conformist_n do_v so_o 3._o he_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o best_a gift_n can_v work_v without_o the_o spirit_n and_o that_o to_o do●…e_v on_o gift_n be_v to_o idolise_v man_n as_o those_o 1_o cor._n 1._o 3._o then_o he_o tell_v we_o how_o zanchius_n be_v offend_v with_o that_o frenchman_n of_o geneva_n who_o say_v he_o will_v leave_v paul_n shall_v be_v come_v there_o and_o hear_v calvine_n but_o what_o will_v this_o argue_v reprove_v must_v they_o be_v stigmatise_v as_o idoliser_n of_o man_n and_o gift_n who_o will_v not_o idolise_v abjure_v prelacy_n and_o perjure_a apostat_n and_o in_o own_v they_o while_o waste_v and_o destroy_v a_o pure_o reform_v church_n discountenance_v a_o faithful_a ministry_n contend_v for_o her_o reformation_n and_o signal_o bless_v therein_o sure_o his_o instance_n anent_o zanchius_n may_v be_v well_o apply_v to_o such_o as_o will_v hear_v none_o but_o curate_n and_o whole_o disowne_v presbyterian_a minister_n again_o if_o the_o best_a gift_n can_v work_v without_o the_o spirit_n and_o the_o spirit_n work_v ordinary_o and_o best_o with_o those_o who_o entertain_v he_o and_o as_o have_v their_o sense_n exercise_v habitual_o wait_v for_o his_o breathe_n in_o duty_n what_o hope_n be_v there_o that_o profane_a man_n and_o greiver_n of_o the_o spirit_n in_o walk_v contraire_fw-fr to_o god_n his_o people_n way_n and_o interest_n as_o be_v most_o conformist_n shall_v have_v the_o spirit_n seal_v attend_v their_o ministry_n what_o more_o he_o tell_v we_o 4._o that_o sometime_o the_o spirit_n will_v act_v with_o the_o mean_a gift_n more_o than_o the_o great_a as_o peter_n act_v 2._o be_v find_v to_o have_v convert_v more_o in_o one_o sermon_n than_o we_o read_v that_o our_o lord_n himself_o do_v though_o he_o speak_v as_o never_o man_n speak_v that_o christ_n 〈◊〉_d complain_v of_o small_a success_n isa._n 49._o 4._o &_o 53._o 1._o &_o upbraid_a people_n for_o unbelief_n math._n 11._o 21_o 22_o 23._o joh._n 5._o 40._o that_o after_o the_o sermon_n on_o the_o mount_v we_o read_v not_o that_o many_o be_v convert_v though_o they_o be_v astonish_v that_o the_o centurion_n faith_n be_v commend_v above_o that_o of_o israel_n and_o from_o the_o east_n and_o west_n many_o will_v sit_v down_o with_o abraham_n while_o the_o child_n of_o the_o kingdom_n be_v cast_v out_o ans._n 1._o he_o must_v grant_v that_o this_o argument_n take_v from_o the_o spirit_n work_v great_a thing_n by_o small_a mean_n will_v not_o plead_v for_o own_v presbyterian_a minister_n to_o who_o many_o of_o his_o scioli_n rabbi_n impute_v weakness_n of_o gift_n because_o they_o think_v that_o aliunde_fw-la or_o upon_o other_o ground_n such_o minister_n be_v not_o in_o this_o case_n to_o be_v hear_v well_o then_o let_v he_o take_v home_o his_o argument_n as_o insufficient_a until_o he_o prove_v that_o hic_fw-la &_o nunc_fw-la conformist_n be_v to_o be_v hear_v rather_o than_o nonconformist_n and_o prove_v his_o groundless_a supposition_n above_o mention_v wherein_o he_o beg_v the_o question_n and_o disprove_v our_o true_a supposition_n above_o also_o rehearse_v or_o this_o argument_n will_v signify_v just_o nothing_o 2._o for_o his_o instance_n as_o this_o man_n will_v be_v sober_a in_o such_o comparison_n so_o we_o must_v tell_v he_o there_o be_v a_o great_a difference_n betwixt_o little_a &_o no_o success_n a_o ministry_n with_o small_a effect_n and_o a_o ministry_n palpable_o blast_v as_o to_o any_o save_a issue_n and_o betwixt_o sincere_a design_v of_o success_n and_o mourn_v over_o the_o want_n of_o it_o make_v it_o a_o complaint_n as_o our_o lord_n weep_v over_o jerusalem_n impenitency_n and_o disobedience_n and_o the_o minister_n design_v himself_o and_o no_o such_o thing_n and_o want_v this_o impression_n mention_v sure_o as_o it_o will_v be_v hard_a for_o he_o to_o point_v we_o to_o any_o of_o their_o constant_a hearer_n who_o have_v be_v convert_v by_o their_o ministry_n so_o it_o will_v be_v as_o hard_a to_o point_v out_o any_o of_o their_o preacher_n who_o have_v the_o people_n spiritual_a profit_n for_o their_o design_n or_o their_o unprofitableness_n as_o their_o burden_n &_o complaint_n to_o god_n and_o since_o both_o these_o be_v conspicuous_a in_o presbyterian_a minister_n it_o be_v quick_o resolve_v which_o of_o the_o two_o be_v stand_v in_o god_n counsel_n and_o travel_v in_o birth_n to_o beget_v soul_n by_o the_o gospel_n and_o to_o have_v christ_n form_v in_o they_o but_o he_o will_v have_v we_o pray_v for_o conformist_n and_o lay_v aside_o prejudice_n ans._n i_o think_v we_o be_v indeed_o call_v to_o lay_v aside_o prejudice_n at_o their_o person_n and_o to_o pray_v for_o their_o repentance_n but_o to_o pray_v for_o a_o blessing_n on_o their_o ministry_n who_o be_v in_o such_o direct_a opposition_n to_o the_o lord_n people_n work_n and_o interest_n be_v a_o mock_n of_o god_n and_o harden_v they_o in_o their_o sin_n and_o consequent_o hear_v and_o receive_v the_o ordinance_n from_o they_o as_o the_o minister_n of_o this_o church_n be_v a_o strength_n ning_v of_o their_o hand_n in_o their_o disobedience_n beside_o will_v he_o allow_v people_n upon_o their_o pray_v for_o presbyterian_a minister_n to_o hear_v they_o i_o trow_v not_o than_o it_o seem_v lay_v aside_o prejudice_n and_o pray_v for_o curate_n may_v consist_v with_o not_o hear_v they_o his_o next_o childish_a objection_n put_v into_o the_o mouth_n of_o his_o doubter_n that_o though_o some_o withdraw_v all_o will_v not_o be_v not_o worth_a the_o noticing_z it_o be_v good_a for_o our_o church_n all_o her_o member_n do_v so_o understand_v their_o duty_n and_o obligaton_n as_o to_o deny_v that_o subjection_n to_o conformist_n which_o he_o plead_v for_o and_o that_o such_o pastor_n as_o they_o who_o destroy_v but_o feed_v not_o have_v no_o flock_n for_o they_o have_v not_o bring_v back_o the_o stray_a nor_o heal_v the_o sick_a etc._n etc._n but_o he_o tell_v we_o he_o have_v prove_v that_o none_o ought_v to_o withdraw_v how_o insignificant_a his_o precede_a proof_n be_v have_v be_v discover_v and_o if_o his_o ensue_n be_v no_o better_a it_o be_v certain_a that_o successus_fw-la defuit_fw-la ausis_fw-la and_o that_o he_o have_v overshote_v his_o mark_n in_o this_o undertake_n the_o doubter_n inquire_v next_o what_o obligation_n lie_v on_o he_o to_o be_v a_o ordinary_a hearer_n in_o his_o own_o congregation_n in_o answer_n to_o which_o the_o informer_n tell_v we_o first_o of_o our_o obligation_n show_v by_o he_o to_o maintain_v union_n and_o of_o the_o act_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n and_o our_o own_o which_o i_o have_v already_o answer_v next_o he_o tell_v we_o of_o the_o reciprocal_a obligation_n betwixt_o a_o minister_n and_o his_o congregation_n which_o can_v be_v so_o easy_o break_v the_o minister_n be_v to_o labour_v diligent_o and_o faithful_o among_o the_o people_n of_o his_o charge_n ezek._n 33._o 8._o heb._n 13._o 17._o the_o people_n of_o his_o charge_n be_v to_o attend_v his_o ministry_n to_o esteem_v he_o high_o and_o love_v h●…m_n for_o his_o work_n sake_n mal._n 2._o 7._o 1_o thes._n 5._o 11_o 12._o heb._n 13._o 17._o he_o ask_v how_o we_o obey_v this_o charge_n when_o we_o disowne_v discountenance_n and_o turn_v our_o back_n upon_o our_o minister_n and_o will_v not_o receive_v the_o law_n from_o their_o mouth_n ans._n that_o there_o be_v a_o reciprocal_a tie_n betwixt_o a_o minister_n and_o his_o flock_n be_v easy_o acknowledge_v but_o the_o informer_n forget_v the_o main_a and_o necessary_a point_n here_o to_o make_v this_o weapon_n strike_v home_o and_o the_o argument_n run_v straight_o without_o a_o bias_n viz._n what_o make_v up_o this_o tie_n according_a to_o the_o scripture_n pattern_n this_o he_o shall_v have_v condescend_v upon_o and_o make_v it_o good_a in_o the_o case_n of_o conformist_n and_o then_o his_o argue_v have_v be_v pertinent_a and_o formidable_a to_o the_o nonconformist_n but_o what_o will_v this_o poor_a general_n say_v that_o there_o be_v a_o reciprocal_a tie_n betwixt_o a_o minister_n and_o his_o flock_n while_o he_o have_v not_o make_v appear_v what_o be_v the_o scripture_n
reformation_n whereof_o these_o point_n mention_v be_v one_o main_a piece_n rather_o then_o such_o as_o have_v turn_v aside_o to_o this_o course_n of_o perjurious_a defection_n sure_o our_o obligation_n mention_v do_v every_o way_n include_v presbyterian_a minister_n &_o exclude_v conformist_n presbyterian_a minister_n be_v maintain_v the_o people_n right_a and_o liberty_n to_o call_v their_o pastor_n conformist_n be_v sell_v away_o this_o piece_n of_o her_o reformation_n &_o liberty_n and_o thus_o cross_v the_o scripture-pattern_n the_o first_o be_v adhere_v to_o this_o church_n vow_n and_o people_n be_v oblige_v to_o own_o these_o minister_n that_o be_v pursue_v the_o end_n the_o other_o be_v cast_v they_o away_o etc._n etc._n again_o 3._o all_o the_o motive_n mention_v in_o the_o premise_a act_n of_o parliament_n and_o in_o our_o church_n public_a act_n in_o opposition_n to_o patronage_n and_o prelatic_a usurpation_n in_o a_o minister_n entry_n be_v still_o bind_v and_o in_o force_n according_a to_o our_o principle_n as_o the_o informer_n will_v not_o for_o very_a shame_n deny_v and_o he_o must_v admit_v this_o supposition_n since_o in_o this_o point_n he_o profess_v to_o argue_v against_o we_o upon_o our_o own_o principle_n and_o so_o what_o do_v then_o engage_v to_o restore_v this_o piece_n of_o our_o church_n liberty_n and_o reformation_n the_o same_o do_v now_o bind_v to_o adhere_v thereunto_o and_o consequent_o to_o own_o the_o minister_n that_o contend_v for_o this_o reformation_n rather_o than_o the_o backslider_n and_o deserter_n thereof_o 4._o this_o man_n dare_v not_o assert_v that_o the_o grant_v conformist_n to_o have_v the_o essence_n of_o a_o ministerial_a call_n will_v in_o every_o case_n infer_v the_o conclusion_n of_o hear_v they_o or_o that_o the_o grant_v a_o minister_n to_o have_v this_o be_v the_o only_a &_o adequat_fw-la ground_n which_o will_v in_o all_o circumstantiat_fw-la case_n make_v hear_v necessary_a for_o 1._o what_o if_o he_o be_v violent_o obtrude_v by_o a_o part_n of_o the_o congregation_n upon_o the_o previous_o call_v minister_v his_o labour_n to_o who_o the_o people_n stand_v oblige_v to_o adhere_v again_o 2._o what_o if_o he_o be_v promote_a a_o schismatic_a course_n set_v up_o a_o altar_n against_o a_o altar_n as_o some_o of_o these_o man_n tell_v we_o in_o their_o pamphlet_n will_v a_o people_n across_o their_o principle_n as_o to_o his_o have_v the_o essence_n of_o a_o ministerial_a call_n if_o they_o refuse_v to_o follow_v he_o in_o that_o schismatic_a course_n nay_o he_o will_v not_o say_v it_o 3._o what_o will_v our_o informer_n answer_v to_o presbyterian_a minister_n plea_n for_o people_n adherence_n to_o they_o upon_o their_o lawful_a call_n mission_n and_o entry_n to_o their_o charge_n will_v this_o infer_v a_o necessity_n of_o the_o people_n own_n they_o and_o desert_v conformist_n if_o it_o will_v not_o as_o he_o must_v here_o say_v or_o yield_v the_o cause_n than_o he_o must_v confess_v that_o acknowledgement_n of_o the_o essence_n of_o curate_n call_v will_v not_o absulute_o plead_v for_o hear_v they_o until_o before_o the_o scripture_n bar_n and_o by_o the_o constitution_n and_o reformation_n of_o this_o church_n they_o can_v prove_v their_o claim_n to_o be_v better_a than_o that_o of_o presbyterian_a minister_n to_o officiat_fw-la as_o her_o true_a pastor_n which_o will_v be_v ad_fw-la kalendas_fw-la graecas_fw-la &_o whatever_o he_o can_v pretend_v here_o as_o to_o disow_v of_o presbyterian_a minister_n in_o their_o administration_n notwithstanding_o of_o their_o have_v a_o lawful_a call_n and_o pastoral_a relation_n to_o this_o church_n will_v be_v easy_o retort_v upon_o himself_o and_o abundant_o counterballance_v by_o that_o which_o in_o the_o case_n of_o conformist_n may_v be_v plead_v to_o supersede_n and_o stop_v the_o people_n own_v of_o they_o in_o this_o circumstantiat_fw-la posture_n of_o our_o church_n so_o that_o the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n here_o be_v this_o whether_o minister_n ordain_v by_o bishop_n and_o present_v by_o patron_n or_o those_o who_o be_v ordain_v by_o the_o presbytry_n and_o call_v by_o the_o people_n have_v best_a right_n to_o officiat_fw-la in_o this_o church_n as_o her_o pastor_n according_a to_o the_o scripture_n rule_n her_o reformation_n and_o principle_n and_o to_o be_v own_a or_o disownd_v by_o the_o people_n according_o the_o decision_n will_v be_v very_o easy_a and_o favourable_a to_o presbyterian_a minister_n and_o exclusive_a of_o all_o his_o fraternity_n and_o whatever_o he_o do_v here_o allege_v anent_o p●…esbyterian_a minister_n schism_n intrusion_n or_o disorder_n will_v be_v easy_o retort_v upon_o himself_o reputando_fw-la rem_fw-la in_o universum_fw-la &_o ab_fw-la initio_fw-la or_o trace_v matter_n to_o their_o true_a original_n but_o now_o what_o say_v our_o informer_n to_o this_o argument_n of_o his_o doubter_n as_o he_o slender_o propones_fw-la it_n to_o make_v it_o foordable_a 1._o he_o tell_v we_o that_o sundry_a who_o we_o refuse_v to_o hear_v enter_v by_o the_o people_n call_n but_o though_o it_o be_v grant_v that_o such_o may_v be_v hear_v who_o be_v but_o a_o few_o how_o will_v this_o plead_v for_o all_o the_o rest_n and_o loose_v his_o doubter_n argument_n as_o to_o they_o 2._o we_o tell_v he_o that_o it_o be_v not_o the_o want_n of_o the_o people_n call_n simple_o and_o abstract_o from_o the_o circumstance_n of_o our_o case_n that_o we_o ground_n upon_o in_o disow_v they_o no_o more_o than_o it_o be_v presbyterian_a minister_n want_v of_o a_o episcopal_a ordination_n which_o he_o plead_v simple_o as_o the_o ground_n of_o disow_v they_o but_o our_o ground_n be_v their_o stand_v all_o of_o they_o in_o a_o direct_a state_v opposition_n to_o the_o reformation_n union_n and_o order_n of_o this_o church_n and_o drive_v on_o a_o interest_n and_o design_n tend_v to_o overturn_v it_o and_o by_o consequence_n be_v liable_a to_o her_o high_a censure_n and_o likewise_o their_o persecute_v and_o oppose_v faithful_a minister_n contend_v for_o her_o reformation_n 3._o all_o those_o who_o he_o allege_v enter_v by_o the_o people_n call_n hang_a by_o their_o conformity_n to_o this_o prelacy_n and_o erastianism_n disow_v their_o first_o entry_n in_o this_o manner_n and_o obtain_v presentation_n from_o patron_n and_o collation_n from_o prelate_n according_a to_o their_o new_a act_n and_o order_n be_v now_o of_o the_o same_o stamp_n with_o the_o rest_n as_o to_o their_o principle_n and_o carriage_n and_o consequent_o the_o people_n disow_v they_o upon_o the_o forementioned_a ground_n in_o this_o our_o case_n fall_v under_o the_o same_o obligation_n with_o their_o disow_v other_o and_o the_o rather_o because_o their_o apostasy_n be_v a_o aggravation_n of_o their_o guilt_n but_o now_o what_o say_v our_o informer_n to_o this_o text_n acts._n 14._o 23._o which_o be_v bring_v by_o his_o doubter_n to_o prove_v the_o people_n right_a in_o the_o election_n of_o pastor_n he_o grant_v that_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v borrow_v from_o the_o custom_n use_v in_o some_o of_o the_o ancient_a greek_a state_n where_o the_o people_n signify_v their_o election_n of_o magistrate_n by_o the_o stretch_n forth_o of_o their_o hand_n because_o the_o word_n so_o signify_v well_o what_o then_o have_v he_o to_o quarrel_v at_o in_o this_o argument_n for_o the_o people_n right_a in_o the_o call_n of_o minister_n from_o this_o text_n 1._o he_o tell_v we_o that_o doctor_n hamond_n and_o other_o critic_n show_v that_o the_o word_n be_v oftenused_a by_o writter_n to_o express_v the_o action_n of_o one_o single_a person_n as_o it_o be_v take_v by_o luke_n act_v 10._o 41._o speak_v of_o god_n choose_v or_o appoint_v so_o that_o the_o word_n be_v not_o necessary_o to_o be_v underst●…od_a of_o the_o action_n of_o many_o chsiung_a by_o snffrage_n ans._n that_o the_o greek_a word_n in_o its_o ordinary_a and_o constant_a acceptation_n do_v import_v and_o be_v make_v use_n of_o to_o signify_v a_o choose_n by_o suffrage_n and_o lift_v up_o or_o extend_v the_o hand_n presbyterian_a writer_n have_v prove_v from_o a_o full_a consent_n of_o critic_n interpreter_n and_o the_o best_a greeck_n author_n the_o syriack_n version_n show_v that_o the_o word_n be_v not_o to_o be_v understand_v of_o the_o apostle_n ordination_n of_o elder_n but_o of_o the_o church_n election_n of_o elder_n in_o render_v the_o text_n thus_o moreover_o they_o make_v to_o themselves_o that_o be_v the_o disciple_n mention_v in_o the_o former_a verse_n make_v to_o themselves_o for_o such_o as_o be_v make_v be_v not_o elder_n or_o minister_n to_o paul_n &_o barnabas_n but_o to_o the_o multitude_n of_o the_o disciple_n in_o every_o church_n while_o they_o be_v fast_v with_o they_o &_o pray_v &_o commend_v they_o &c._n &c._n which_o election_n can_v not_o be_v but_o after_o the_o grecian_a form_n by_o the_o church_n lift_v up_o or_o stretch_v out_o of_o
be_v take_v as_o joint_a act_n of_o paul_n &_o barnabas_n and_o of_o the_o church_n together_o with_o they_o viz._n that_o they_o all_o concur_v in_o make_v they_o elder_n by_o suffrage_n and_o in_o prayer_n and_o fast_v and_o commend_v themselves_o to_o the_o lord_n 3._o how_o prove_v he_o that_o the_o relative_a they_o in_o our_o translation_n be_v refer_v to_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n only_o rather_o than_o the_o church_n sure_o this_o be_v a_o blind_a proof_n and_o as_o we_o use_v to_o say_v a_o baculo_fw-la ad_fw-la angulum_fw-la they_o ordain_v elder_n ergo_fw-la paul_n and_o barnabas_n only_o ordain_v by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n since_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o it_o be_v resolve_v by_o the_o learned_a can_v hardly_o in_o propriety_n of_o speech_n import_n lay_v on_o of_o hand_n in_o ordination_n which_o be_v proper_a to_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n and_o the_o septuagint_n who_o luke_n follow_v express_v the_o lay_n on_o of_o hand_n by_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d our_o informer_n must_v acknowledge_v this_o from_o the_o sequel_n of_o his_o own_o reason_n for_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n can_v not_o elect_v minister_n very_o true_a and_o therefore_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o in_o its_o native_a acceptation_n signify_v election_n by_o suffrage_n as_o he_o have_v acknowledge_v must_v relate_v to_o the_o people_n since_o there_o can_v be_v no_o hand-suffrage_n betwixt_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n 4._o give_v and_o not_o grant_v that_o this_o be_v a_o act_n of_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n distinct_a from_o the_o church_n suffrage_n our_o argument_n stand_v good_a and_o this_o will_v not_o in_o the_o least_o yield_v the_o question_n as_o this_o man_n foolish_o imagine_v for_o to_o read_v it_o thus_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n ordain_v elder_n by_o suffrage_n be_v all_o one_o with_o this_o that_o they_o ordain_v such_o to_o be_v elder_n as_o be_v choose_v by_o the_o church_n the_o people_n declare_v by_o hand-suffrage_n who_o they_o will_v have_v to_o be_v elder_n and_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n ordain_v they_o elder_n as_o the_o consul_n who_o hold_v the_o court_n among_o the_o roman_n create_v new_a magistrate_n that_o be_v do_v receive_v the_o vote_n and_o preside_v in_o the_o election_n since_o as_o i_o say_v the_o hand-suffrage_n can_v in_o any_o propriety_n of_o speech_n relate_v to_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n alone_o see_v calvine_n institut_n lib._n 4._o cap._n 53._o paragr_n 15._o and_o mr_n gillesp._n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la who_o further_o tell_v we_o that_o this_o may_v be_v either_o a_o action_n of_o the_o church_n only_o as_o the_o syriack_n make_v it_o or_o a_o joint_a action_n both_o of_o the_o church_n and_o of_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n as_o junius_n make_v it_o or_o a_o action_n of_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n in_o this_o sense_n that_o they_o do_v constitute_v elder_n to_o the_o church_n by_o the_o church_n own_o voice_n in_o all_o which_o sense_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d stand_v good_a for_o we_o to_o which_o we_o may_v add_v that_o calvine_n render_v the_o word_n cu●…_n suffragiis_fw-la creassent_fw-la when_o the_o have_v make_v by_o vote_n add_v that_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n ordain_v minister_n to_o the_o church_n for_o they_o do_v preside_v over_o and_o moderate_a the_o people_n election_n presbyteros_fw-la dicuntur_fw-la eligere_fw-la paulus_n &_o barnabas_n a_o soli_fw-la hoc_fw-la privato_fw-la officio_fw-la faciunt_fw-la quum_fw-la potius_fw-la rem_fw-la permittunt_fw-la omnium_fw-la sugragiis_fw-la ergo_fw-la in_o pastoribus_fw-la creandis_fw-la libera_fw-la fuit_fw-la populi_fw-la electio_fw-la sed_fw-la ne_fw-la quia_fw-la tumul●…uose_fw-la fieret_fw-la president_n paulus_n &_o barnabas_fw-la quasi_fw-la moderatores_fw-la that_o be_v paul_n and_o barnabas_n be_v say_v to_o ebuse_v elder_n but_o do_v they_o this_o sole_o and_o by_o themselves_o and_o do_v not_o rather_o remit_v this_o to_o the_o suffrage_n of_o all_o therefore_o in_o the_o make_n of_o pastor_n the_o people_n have_v a_o free_a election_n and_o choice_n but_o leave_v any_o thing_n shall_v be_v do_v tumultuous_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n do_v preside_v as_o moderatour_n so_o he_o say_v we_o be_v to_o understand_v the_o decree_n of_o the_o council_n of_o laodicea_n which_o seem_v to_o inhibit_v the_o people_n election_n the_o dutch_a annot._n upon_o this_o passage_n do_v tell_v we_o that_o this_o be_v a_o custom_n among_o the_o greek_n in_o choose_v their_o magistrate_n that_o the_o people_n by_o lift_v up_o their_o hand_n give_v to_o understand_v their_o vote_v so_o it_o seem_v that_o from_o thence_o this_o custom_n be_v also_o use_v in_o the_o primitive_a church_n that_o the_o set_v forth_o of_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n be_v do_v by_o apostle_n or_o those_o that_o be_v send_v by_o they_o for_o this_o purpose_n be_v approve_v by_o the_o church_n by_o the_o lift_n up_o of_o their_o hand_n which_o use_v long_o continue_v in_o the_o church_n as_o the_o ecclesiastic_a history_n testify_v and_o have_v tell_v we_o that_o other_o understand_v this_o of_o imposition_n of_o hand_n which_o they_o set_v down_o as_o the_o secondary_a and_o less_o probable_a opinion_n they_o add_v that_o this_o also_o be_v do_v with_o consent_n of_o the_o church_n as_o appear_v by_o the_o fast_n and_o pray_v which_o be_v do_v by_o the_o whole_a congregation_n and_o be_v also_o do_v in_o this_o choose_n of_o the_o elder_n refer_v to_o 1_o tim._n 5._o 17._o act_n 10._o 41._o upon_o which_o passage_n they_o show_v that_o the_o greek_a word_n in_o act_n 14._o 23._o signify_v proper_o by_o lift_v up_o of_o hand_n to_o choose_v or_o ordain_v and_o be_v here_o use_v concern_v the_o choose_n of_o ordinary_a minister_n by_o the_o suffrage_n of_o the_o church_n to_o which_o this_o extraordinary_a choose_n of_o apostle_n be_v here_o oppose_v as_o be_v do_v by_o lift_v up_o or_o stretch_v forth_o of_o god_n hand_n alone_o upon_o acts._n 6._o 6._o where_o mention_n be_v make_v of_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n they_o tell_v we_o that_o as_o this_o be_v usual_a in_o blessing_n gen._n 48._o 14._o in_o sacrifice_n leu._n 1._o 4._o and_o in_o installing_n into_o office_n numb_a 27._o 18._o deut_n 34._o 9_o so_o the_o church_n point_v at_o the_o apostolic_a church_n practice_n in_o investiture_n of_o minister_n do_v thus_o dedicate_v they_o to_o god_n his_o service_n and_o use_v thus_o to_o wish_v his_o blessing_n 1_o tim._n 5._o 22._o the_o english_a annot_n upon_o this_o text_n under_o debate_n do_v show_v that_o the_o word_n signify_v make_v of_o such_o a_o choice_n as_o be_v make_v or_o confirm_v by_o lift_v up_o of_o hand_n to_o signify_v suffrage_n or_o consent_n and_o have_v tell_v we_o of_o the_o general_a signification_n of_o the_o word_n in_o reference_n to_o ordination_n or_o appoint_v chap._n 10._o 41._o they_o add_v that_o the_o syriack_n read_v the_o text_n thus_o an_o they_o appoint_v to_o they_o elder_n in_o every_o congregation_n whence_o they_o collect_v that_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n do_v not_o all_o alone_a in_o ordain_v &_o church-government_n other_o christian_n show_v their_o consent_n or_o approbation_n of_o the_o person_n who_o be_v ordain_v elder_n by_o lift_v up_o their_o hand_n as_o very_o we_o will_v know_n of_o what_o behaviour_n they_o have_v be_v among_o they_o so_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v say_v they_o to_o disallow_v by_o some_o act_n election_n or_o decree_n add_v that_o suidas_n interpret_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o his_o interpreter_n render_v electio_fw-la delectus_fw-la per_fw-la suffragia_fw-la confirmatio_fw-la populi_fw-la totius_fw-la consensus_fw-la a_o election_n choose_v a_o confirmation_n by_o voice_n consent_n of_o all_o the_o people_n let_v our_o informer_n here_o observe_v 1._o that_o the_o choose_n of_o minister_n by_o suffrage_n and_o consent_n of_o the_o church_n be_v import_v and_o hold_v out_o in_o this_o passage_n under_o debate_n in_o the_o consentient_a judgement_n of_o interpreter_n and_o that_o this_o greek_n word_n as_o in_o its_o ordinary_a so_o its_o special_a acceptation_n in_o this_o place_n will_v clear_o infer_v so_o much_o whatever_o authority_n in_o ordination_n and_o election_n as_o to_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n and_o of_o minister_n consequent_o the_o circumstance_n of_o this_o text_n will_v bear_v out_o and_o infer_v 2._o that_o this_o interest_n of_o the_o people_n in_o the_o election_n and_o call_v of_o minister_n be_v comprobate_n by_o the_o judgement_n and_o consentient_a practice_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n as_o the_o history_n thereof_o do_v verify_v 3._o that_o that_o passage_n act._n 10._o 41._o do_v in_o their_o sense_n nothing_o invalidate_v this_o right_n of_o the_o people_n hold_v out_o in_o this_o text_n the_o one_o place_n speak_v of_o a_o immediate_a choose_n by_o god_n the_o
other_o of_o mediate_v and_o ordinary_a by_o man_n the_o one_o point_v at_o ordination_n and_o appoint_v of_o the_o apostle_n to_o their_o office_n in_o a_o general_a sense_n the_o other_o of_o the_o special_a or_o specifical_a mould_n of_o the_o call_n and_o election_n of_o minister_n 4._o that_o this_o right_a and_o interest_n of_o the_o people_n in_o minister_n call_v as_o it_o be_v found_v upon_o the_o ancient_a practice_n and_o unrepealed_a privilege_n of_o god_n church_n under_o the_o old_a testament_n so_o it_o have_v beside_o this_o and_o such_o like_a instance_n and_o exemplary_a recommendation_n of_o the_o new-testament_n a_o constant_a moral_a warrant_n of_o the_o people_n knowledge_n anent_o the_o case_n and_o behaviour_n of_o their_o spiritual_a guide_n his_o 3d_o answer_n to_o this_o text_n be_v that_o if_o we_o understand_v it_o of_o a_o hand_n suffrage_n we_o lose_v by_o it_o why_o so_o because_o we_o give_v advantadge_n to_o the_o independent_o for_o popular_a election_n of_o minister_n wherea_fw-la we_o give_v this_o power_n not_o to_o all_o the_o people_n but_o to_o the_o session_n and_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o therefore_o understand_a presbyterian_o have_v forbear_v to_o pressthis_fw-la text_n ans._n 1._o we_o have_v prove_v that_o a_o congregational_a eldership_n be_v juris_fw-la divini_fw-la &_o that_o by_o consequence_n this_o election_n strict_o take_v must_v be_v their_o privilege_n see_v 9_o argument_n against_o prelacy_n on_o the_o 1._o dialogue_n who_o these_o understand_a presbyterian_o be_v who_o do_v not_o understand_v this_o place_n as_o warrand_a the_o people_n interest_n in_o the_o election_n &_o call_v of_o minister_n the_o informer_n have_v not_o give_v we_o a_o account_n since_o his_o doubter_n be_v none_o of_o they_o and_o if_o he_o mean_v the_o author_n of_o jus_o divinum_fw-la ministerii_fw-la evangelici_fw-la he_o will_v find_v that_o they_o do_v clear_o assert_v this_o truth_n propos_fw-fr 1._o so_o as_o it_o do_v not_o exclude_v the_o due_a right_n of_o minister_n herein_o see_v pag._n 127._o and_o 129._o and_o the_o assembly_n of_o divine_n in_o their_o directory_n for_o ordination_n of_o minister_n 4._o branch_n do_v require_v the_o people_n consent_n and_o approbation_n as_o necessary_o antecedaneous_a to_o the_o ordination_n beside_o can_v the_o informer_n be_v ignorant_a that_o there_o be_v several_a other_o weighty_a scripture_n ground_n &_o argument_n plead_v by_o our_o writter_n to_o fortify_v this_o right_n of_o the_o people_n why_o do_v he_o not_o then_o put_v these_o also_o into_o the_o mouth_n of_o his_o doubter_n and_o give_v we_o a_o account_n of_o his_o own_o and_o his_o episcopal_a master_n '_o skill_n in_o dissolve_v they_o moreover_o though_o it_o be_v grant_v that_o all_o here_o do_v concur_v in_o this_o suffrage_n where_o no_o eldership_n be_v yet_o constitute_v as_o mr_n gillespy_n judge_v probable_a miscell_n pag._n 14._o it_o will_v nothing_o infringe_v the_o power_n of_o the_o eldership_n in_o church_n constitute_v there_o be_v a_o vast_a difference_n betwixt_o the_o modus_fw-la rei_fw-la in_o church_n constitute_v and_o these_o in_o fieri_fw-la or_o that_o be_v to_o be_v constitute_v again_o 2._o we_o tell_v he_o that_o the_o word_n import_v a_o judicial_a suffrage_n by_o extend_v of_o hand_n and_o that_o in_o commitiis_fw-la among_o court_n senate_n and_o representative_n of_o the_o people_n as_o in_o the_o roman_a senate_n in_o which_o the_o consul_n preside_v and_o that_o among_o the_o greek_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v the_o magistrate_n create_v by_o suffrage_n in_o the_o court_v solemn_o hold_v for_o that_o purpose_n that_o the_o roman_a senate_n do_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o chrysostome_n say_v which_o doctor_n potter_n expones_fw-la make_v their_o god_n by_o suffrage_n charity_n mistake_v page_n 145._o again_o suppose_v eldership_n here_o existent_a this_o phrase_n may_v be_v well_o refer_v to_o the_o people_n as_o import_v their_o consent_n and_o approbation_n reserve_v still_o to_o the_o eldership_n their_o juridical_a suffrage_n and_o decisive_a vote_n in_o election_n mr_n gillespy_n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la clear_v this_o show_v that_o in_o athens_n itself_o the_o people_n do_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d when_o they_o do_v but_o like_o well_o the_o person_n nominate_v as_o when_o a_o thesaurer_n offer_v some_o to_o be_v surety_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d who_o the_o people_n shall_v approve_v this_o he_o prove_v from_o demosth._n advers._fw-la timocr_n from_o which_o oration_n he_o make_v it_o good_a that_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o assembly_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o court_n of_o judge_n be_v plain_o distinguish_v so_o far_o that_o they_o may_v not_o be_v both_o upon_o one_o day_n and_o that_o though_o the_o people_n do_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d yet_o not_o they_o but_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o judge_n do_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ordain_v or_o appoint_v a_o magistrate_n in_o a_o word_n we_o give_v in_o this_o mater_fw-la the_o minister_n call_v the_o suffrage_n and_o election_n to_o the_o eldership_n i_o mean_v in_o a_o church_n constitute_v and_o the_o consent_n which_o be_v distinct_a from_o the_o decisive_a voice_n as_o the_o learned_a acknowledge_v gamachaeus_n in_o primam_fw-la 2dae_fw-la ou●…_n of_o thomas_n quest_n 15_o show_v this_o to_o the_o whole_a people_n and_o the_o formal_a authoritative_a mission_n and_o imposition_n of_o hand_n make_v the_o man_n a_o minister_n and_o give_v he_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d who_o have_v it_o not_o before_o to_o the_o presbytery_n according_a to_o the_o scripture_n pattern_n which_o be_v toto_fw-la coelo_fw-la different_a from_o the_o independent_o principle_n in_o this_o point_n if_o any_o object_n that_o the_o give_v the_o suffrage_n and_o election_n of_o minister_n to_o the_o eldership_n exclude_v the_o people_n make_v the_o breach_n great_a betwixt_o the_o independent_o and_o we_o then_o needs_o it_o be_v sufficient_a to_o clear_v we_o from_o their_o principle_n that_o we_o allow_v not_o either_o to_o the_o eldership_n or_o congregation_n the_o formal_a authoritative_a mission_n and_o imposition_n of_o hand_n and_o that_o our_o argument_n upon_o this_o head_n seem_v to_o give_v to_o the_o people_n not_o only_o consent_v but_o suffrage_n in_o election_n i_o shall_v desire_v first_o that_o mr_n gillespy_v answer_v be_v consider_v miscell_n page_n 24._o to_o a_o objection_n about_o our_o homologate_a with_o independent_o in_o this_o point_n who_o say_v that_o in_o this_o point_n of_o election_n we_o do_v not_o homologate_v with_o they_o who_o give_v to_o the_o collective_a body_n of_o the_o church_n woman_n and_o child_n under_o age_n only_o except_v the_o power_n of_o decisive_a vote_n or_o suffrage_n in_o election_n we_o give_v the_o vote_n only_o to_o the_o eldership_n or_o church_n representative_a so_o that_o they_o carry_v along_o with_o they_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o major_a or_o better_a part_n of_o the_o congregation_n so_o that_o he_o make_v the_o attribute_v of_o this_o decisive_a voice_n &_o suffrage_n in_o election_n unto_o the_o people_n to_o be_v down_o right_a independency_n &_o the_o march_n stone_n of_o their_o difference_n from_o we_o he_o tell_v we_o afterward_o that_o the_o consent_n and_o knowledge_n belong_v to_o the_o whole_a church_n without_o which_o minister_n may_v not_o be_v intrude_v &_o the_o counsel_n and_o deliberation_n which_o be_v distinct_a from_o this_o consent_n to_o the_o able_a &_o wise_a of_o the_o congregation_n especial_o the_o magistrate_n but_o he_o distinguish_v from_o both_o these_o the_o decisive_a vote_n in_o court_n or_o judicatory_a &_o the_o formal_a consistorial_n determination_n in_o the_o case_n of_o election_n and_o this_o he_o say_v belong_v only_o unto_o and_o consist_v in_o the_o vote_n of_o the_o eldership_n and_o that_o the_o independent_o contrary_o give_v the_o conference_n and_o deliberation_n to_o the_o eldership_n as_o we_o use_v to_o do_v in_o committee_n but_o the_o decision_n to_o the_o whole_a congregation_n add_v further_o that_o such_o as_o have_v write_v against_o independent_o do_v thus_o state_n the_o difference_n betwixt_o they_o and_o we_o in_o this_o point_n viz._n not_o whether_o matter_n of_o great_a importance_n and_o public_a concernment_n ought_v to_o be_v determine_v with_o the_o people_n free_a consent_n for_o this_o we_o grant_v but_o whether_o the_o cause_n must_v be_v bring_v to_o the_o body_n of_o the_o congregation_n to_o give_v their_o voice_n therein_o together_o with_o the_o officer_n of_o the_o church_n cite_n laget_fw-ge in_fw-ge his_o defence_n of_o church-government_n chap._n 1._o and_o mr_n herle_v prolocutor_n of_o the_o assembly_n of_o divine_n in_o that_o piece_n entitle_v the_o independency_n on_o scripture_n of_o the_o independency_n of_o church_n page_n 3._o where_o he_o set_v down_o this_o forementioned_a consent_n to_o the_o minister_n who_o be_v to_o
be_v choose_v as_o that_o which_o we_o allow_v to_o the_o member_n of_o the_o congregation_n in_o common_a add_v further_o that_o independent_o place_v the_o whole_a essence_n of_o a_o call_n in_o election_n account_v ordination_n to_o be_v but_o a_o solemnize_n of_o it_o whereas_o we_o place_v the_o potestative_a mission_n not_o in_o the_o church_n election_n but_o lawful_a ordination_n so_o that_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o these_o divine_v the_o reserve_n to_o the_o presbytry_n the_o formal_a authoritative_a mission_n be_v the_o not_o the_o sole_a point_n of_o difference_n betwixt_o the_o independent_o and_o we_o nor_o can_v a_o man_n be_v clear_v from_o independent_a principle_n in_o their_o judgement_n who_o extend_v the_o decisive_a juridical●…_n vote_n in_o election_n beyond_o the_o eldership_n and_o give_v this_o decisive_a suffrage_n strict_o take_v to_o the_o people_n beside_o the_o absurd_a and_o dangerous_a consequence_n follow_v upon_o this_o opinion_n allow_v the_o formal_a juridical_a elective_a suffrage_n to_o the_o people_n be_v evident_a such_o as_o 1._o that_o this_o go_v in_o some_o respect_n beyond_o independent_o opinion_n as_o to_o the_o people_n power_n in_o elective_a suffrage_n who_o though_o they_o give_v it_o to_o the_o collective_a body_n yet_o ●…with_o a_o restriction_n exclude_v woman_n child_n and_o person_n under_o age_n not_o to_o every_o individual_a 2._o that_o this_o will_v infer_v that_o every_o point_n of_o government_n and_o every_o cause_n relate_v immediate_o to_o the_o congregation_n must_v be_v bring_v to_o the_o multitude_n or_o body_n of_o the_o people_n to_o give_v their_o voice_n therein_o together_o with_o the_o officer_n of_o the_o church_n for_o upon_o the_o same_o ground_n that_o the_o elective_a suffrage_n belong_v to_o they_o so_o must_v every_o piece_n of_o government_n now_o mr_n laget_fw-ge ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la express_o state_n this_o as_o the_o independent_o principle_n and_o as_o that_o wherein_o they_o differ_v from_o we_o 3._o this_o cut_v off_o all_o right_a and_o power_n of_o a_o juridical_a eldership_n which_o be_v by_o our_o writter_n assert_v and_o make_v good_a from_o the_o scripture_n and_o make_v all_o their_o authoritative_a decisive_a suffrage_n in_o this_o and_o other_o point_n of_o government_n in_o reference_n to_o the_o congregation_n a_o invasion_n of_o the_o people_n right_a and_o unlawful_a usurpation_n of_o their_o power_n for_o if_o this_o formal_a decisive_a suffrage_n belong_v to_o all_o the_o collective_a body_n jure_fw-la divino_fw-la how_o can_v they_o give_v it_o away_o 4._o this_o will_n by_o consequence_n bring_v the_o collective_a body_n to_o have_v their_o formal_a decisive_a juridical_a suffrage_n in_o superior_a church-judicatories_a presbytry_n and_o synod_n in_o every_o point_n wherein_o the_o congregational_a eldership_n and_o session_n have_v a_o immediate_a interest_n again_o since_o consent_v and_o knowledge_n be_v allow_v by_o our_o writter_n to_o the_o whole_a congregation_n and_o deliberation_n and_o counsel_n to_o some_o eminent_a member_n the_o elderships_n elective_a suffrage_n which_o in_o their_o judgement_n be_v necessary_o connect_v with_o this_o can_v be_v say_v to_o impeach_v the_o due_a right_n of_o the_o collective_a body_n of_o the_o congregation_n in_o this_o point_n unless_o as_o i_o say_v we_o step_v over_o the_o march-stone_n and_o bring_v in_o the_o whole_a collective_a body_n of_o the_o congregation_n to_o have_v a_o decisive_a suffrage_n in_o government_n in_o a_o word_n the_o scripture_n argument_n and_o other_o ground_n here_o hint_v which_o do_v clear_o conclude_v the_o people_n and_o congregation_n right_a as_o to_o a_o call_v in_o general_n will_v not_o infer_v that_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d belong_v to_o every_o one_o of_o the_o people_n or_o the_o whole_a collective_a body_n so_o far_o as_o to_o import_v a_o formal_a decisive_a suffrage_n for_o it_o be_v the_o due_a right_n of_o the_o people_n representative_n the_o eldership_n in_o who_o choice_n and_o election_n the_o people_n have_v a_o great_a interest_n and_o to_o which_o they_o give_v a_o formal_a consent_n the_o congregation_n do_v in_o and_o by_o they_o give_v their_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o suffrage_n and_o what_o be_v proper_a to_o some_o part_n of_o this_o organic_n body_n the_o church_n may_v be_v well_o say_v to_o be_v the_o due_a right_n and_o action_n of_o the_o whole_a in_o a_o general_a sense_n each_o part_n concur_v svo_fw-la modo_fw-la a_o man_n be_v say_v to_o see_v though_o the_o eye_n only_o be_v the_o proper_a organ_n of_o sight_n because_o the_o eye_n subsist_v in_o and_o with_o the_o body_n and_o can_v act_v without_o or_o separate_v from_o it_o so_o the_o people_n in_o a_o general_a sense_n and_o mediate_o elect_v by_o the_o eldership_n the_o whole_a collective_a body_n concur_v in_o what_o be_v proper_a to_o they_o herein_o we_o hear_v from_o mrgillespy_n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la at_o among_o the_o greek_n the_o people_n in_o consent_v to_o a_o choice_n of_o governor_n be_v say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d so_o that_o although_o upon_o the_o supposal_n of_o the_o divine_a right_n of_o a_o juridical_a eldership_n represent_v the_o congregation_n which_o right_o be_v abundant_o prove_v from_o scripture_n the_o formal_a cousistorial_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o juridical_a suffrage_n belong_v to_o they_o yet_o the_o whole_a collective_a body_n their_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o manner_n former_o explain_v stand_v good_a his_o last_o answer_n be_v that_o if_o we_o think_v the_o people_n election_n s●…_n necessary_a that_o none_o can_v be_v a_o minister_n without_o it_o than_o we_o null_a the_o ministry_n of_o the_o whole_a christian_a world_n for_o above_o 1000_o year_n upward_o and_o the_o ministry_n of_o this_o c●…rch_n ever_o till_o the_o year_n 1649._o for_o until_o then_o patronage_n be_v not_o take_v away_o ans_fw-fr we_o have_v prove_v that_o the_o people_n right_a in_o the_o call_n and_o election_n of_o pastor_n be_v the_o pure_a scripture_n pattern_n continue_v in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n for_o diverse_a age_n which_o be_v enough_o to_o prove_v that_o as_o it_o ought_v to_o be_v endeavour_v after_o and_o establish_v by_o church_n who_o will_v imitat_fw-la this_o pattern_n of_o the_o lord_n tabernacle_n show_v upon_o the_o moun●…_n so_o where_o it_o be_v obtain_v it_o ought_v to_o be_v hold_v fast_o against_o any_o contraire_fw-fr innovation_n that_o the_o people_n interest_n in_o the_o election_n and_o call_v of_o minister_n and_o teacher_n have_v place_n from_o the_o apostle_n even_o unto_o his_o own_o time_n in_o a_o good_a measure_n may_v be_v prove_v beside_o what_o we_o have_v say_v already_o to_o clear_v this_o by_o a_o very_o unsuspect_v witness_n marcus_n antonius_n de_fw-fr dominis_fw-la de_fw-fr repub._n eccles_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 22._o num._n 10._o he_o say_v in_o electione_n ministrorum_fw-la etiam_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la tempore_fw-la &_o ipsorum_fw-la instituto_fw-la plebem_fw-la &_o totam_fw-la multitudinem_fw-la magnam_fw-la habuisse_fw-la partem_fw-la and_o lib._n 3._o cap._n 3._o num._n 12._o jam_fw-la vero_fw-la post_fw-la concilium_fw-la nicenum_n in_fw-la electionibus_fw-la eundem_fw-la prorsus_fw-la veterem_fw-la morem_fw-la perpetuo_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la ad_fw-la nostra_fw-la pene_fw-la tempora_fw-la servasse_fw-la ut_fw-la a_o clero_fw-la &_o popul●…_n fieret_fw-la ex_fw-la patribus_fw-la ac_fw-la rebus_fw-la gestis_fw-la &_o conciliis_fw-la &_o juribus_fw-la ex_fw-la romanorum_fw-la pontificum_fw-la attestationibus_fw-la &_o decretis_fw-la jam_fw-la sumo_fw-la comprobandum_fw-la that_o be_v that_o after_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a the_o same_o ancient_a custom_n be_v own_a to_o his_o time_n by_o the_o church_n as_o to_o the_o people_n interest_n in_o this_o election_n and_o call_v of_o minister_n he_o undertake_v to_o prove_v from_o the_o father_n from_o history_n and_o council_n and_o law_n and_o the_o very_a decree_n of_o pope_n in_o the_o council_n of_o paris_n anno_fw-la 559._o there_o be_v such_o a_o decree_n quia_fw-la in_o aliquibus_fw-la crivitatibus_fw-la consuetudo_fw-la prisca_fw-la negligitur_fw-la etc._n etc._n because_o the_o ancient_a custom_n and_o decree_n of_o the_o canon_n be_v neglect_v in_o some_o city_n they_o appoint_v the_o decree_n of_o the_o canon_n to_o be_v keep_v and_o the_o ancient_a custom_n ut_fw-la nullus_fw-la civibus_fw-la invitis_fw-la ordinetur_fw-la episcopus_fw-la nisi_fw-la quem_fw-la populi_fw-la &_o clericorum_fw-la electio_fw-la pleni●…ima_fw-la quaesierit_fw-la voluntate_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o none_o be_v ordain_v a_o bishop_n without_o the_o will_n of_o the_o citizen_n but_o such_o only_a who_o the_o people_n and_o clergy_n shall_v choose_v with_o full_a consent_n that_o the_o people_n have_v a_o right_a to_o require_v call_v and_o elect_v their_o pastor_n in_o the_o ancient_a church_n didoclav_n prove_v from_o the_o example_n of_o eradius_fw-la ambrose_n flavianus_n nectarius_n etc._n etc._n from_o pag._n 3●…6_n to_o 331._o show_v that_o cyprian_a say_v of_o rabbinus_n that_o he_o be_v choose_v bishop_n
against_o be_v his_o groundless_a supposition_n allege_v but_o not_o prove_v by_o he_o and_o by_o we_o disprove_v by_o what_o be_v say_v above_o and_o likewise_o the_o application_n of_o this_o hear_n the_o pharisee_n to_o our_o hear_a curate_n be_v his_o bare_a petitio_fw-la principii_fw-la his_o assertion_n after_o subjoin_v viz._n that_o this_o passage_n will_v stand_v against_o we_o to_o our_o conviction_n as_o against_o the_o separatist_n in_o queen_n elizabeth_n time_n be_v but_o a_o piece_n of_o his_o ignorant_a arrogant_a confidence_n there_o be_v a_o vast_a difference_n betwixt_o our_o case_n and_o that_o of_o those_o separatist_n at_o that_o time_n as_o shall_v hereafter_o appear_v and_o beside_o presbyterian_a minister_n of_o this_o church_n have_v much_o more_o to_o say_v from_o this_o text_n for_o their_o people_n adhere_v to_o they_o than_o prelatist_n can_v plead_v the_o doubter_n next_o allege_n that_o many_o episcopal_a man_n have_v enter_v upon_o honest_a man_n labour_n and_o therefore_o aught_o to_o be_v disow_v as_o intruder_n he_o answer_v 1._o that_o all_o be_v not_o such_o that_o some_o conformist_n have_v keep●…_n their_o place_n they_o bid_v before_o the_o change_n other_o have_v enter_v in_o to_o the_o labour_n of_o those_o that_o be_v dead_a and_o transport_v elsewhere_o ans._n our_o informer_n do_v miserable_o pinch_v and_o narrow_a a_o sinful_a intrusion_n by_o this_o description_n which_o himself_n must_v acknowledge_v for_o shall_v a_o presbyterian_a minister_n step_n into_o his_o own_o church_n upon_o the_o death_n or_o transportation_n of_o one_o of_o the_o curate_n who_o will_v question_v that_o this_o man_n will_v call_v it_o a_o intrusion_n according_a to_o his_o principle_n anent_o the_o prelatic_a church_n and_o so_o he_o must_v acknowledge_v that_o notwithstanding_o what_o he_o here_o plead_v the_o curate_n entry_n be_v intrusion_n according_a to_o our_o principle_n beside_o that_o the_o ministry_n of_o those_o who_o have_v conform_v and_o be_v presbyterial_o ordain_v be_v a_o express_a own_n of_o the_o principle_n practice_n and_o design_n of_o this_o prelatic_a schismatic_n destroy_v party_n and_o by_o their_o acceptance_n of_o collation_n and_o presentation_n and_o concur_v in_o the_o prelate_n pretend_v judicatory_n a_o ministry_n complete_o of_o the_o prelatic_a mould_n its_o reductive_a if_o not_o formaliter_fw-la a_o intrusion_n or_o partake_v with_o the_o general_a intrusion_n and_o usurpation_n upon_o the_o pure_a reform_a ministry_n and_o church_n of_o scotland_n even_o as_o a_o state_n officer_n or_o magistrate_n his_o take_v his_o office_n from_o invader_n while_o a_o army_n be_v in_o the_o field_n against_o they_o do_v full_o and_o fit_o denominate_v he_o a_o invader_n in_o the_o exercise_n thereof_o though_o it_o be_v material_o the_o same_o office_n and_o employment_n which_o he_o have_v before_o or_o as_o a_o inferior_a officer_n in_o a_o army_n take_v his_o office_n and_o a_o new_a commission_n from_o a_o usurp_a general_n and_o other_o usurp_a superior_a officer_n who_o be_v dissolve_v and_o betray_v the_o true_a army_n expel_v the_o true_a general_n and_o officer_n contrary_a to_o their_o first_o commission_n do_v partake_v in_o that_o usurpation_n consider_v the_o church_n of_o scotland_n as_o it_o stand_v establish_v in_o doctrine_n discipline_n worship_n and_o government_n and_o her_o national_a and_o solemn_a vow_n sure_o this_o course_n of_o conformity_n be_v a_o most_o gross_a intrusion_n upon_o she_o without_o so_o much_o as_o a_o shadow_n of_o consent_n and_o so_o be_v all_o partake_n therein_o by_o consequence_n which_o no_o conformist_n can_v acquit_v himself_o of_o and_o therefore_o according_a to_o the_o tenor_n and_o principle_n of_o our_o reformation_n can_v be_v look_v upon_o as_o any_o of_o our_o true_a church_n her_o son_n and_o minister_n but_o here_o our_o informer_n pose_v we_o with_o some_o great_a query_n forsooth_o 1._o whether_o conformist_n be_v active_a in_o ut_v presbyterian_a minister_n or_o come_v in_o before_o they_o be_v out_o and_o their_o place_n declare_v vacant_a ans._n whoever_o be_v active_a or_o passive_a in_o out_v they_o one_o thing_n be_v sure_a they_o be_v violent_o thrust_v out_o contrary_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o the_o rule_n order_n and_o reformation_n of_o this_o church_n so_o that_o come_v in_o who_o will_n they_o be_v intruder_n 1._o because_o they_o have_v come_v in_o upon_o a_o charge_n to_o which_o faithful_a minister_n of_o this_o church_n have_v christ_n key_n and_o commission_n 2._o because_o come_v in_o and_o obtrude_v by_o those_o who_o be_v ingrained_a usurper_n thief_n and_o robber_n i_o mean_v perfidious_a prelate_n often_o abjure_v and_o cast_v out_o of_o this_o church_n with_o detestation_n and_o not_o in_o the_o order_n of_o this_o church_n nor_o by_o her_o door_n a_o poor_a man_n be_v by_o a_o number_n of_o robber_n dispossess_v of_o his_o house_n they_o put_v in_o a_o seem_a neutral_a to_o keep_v house_n for_o they_o the_o poor_a owner_n seek_v his_o possession_n &_o complain_v of_o this_o usurpation_n o_o say_v the_o new_a tenant_n and_o robber_n depute_v i_o be_o no_o intruder_n i_o have_v a_o good_a right_n i_o put_v you_o not_o out_o but_o find_v your_o house_n empty_a now_o let_v the_o informer_n use_v a_o little_a honest_a application_n and_o answer_v his_o weighty_a query_n 2._o he_o ask_v why_o will_v those_o dispossess_v minister_n suffer_v the_o people_n to_o starve_v because_o they_o have_v sleep_v out_o of_o their_o charge_n ans._n the_o people_n be_v starve_v &_o poison_v too_o by_o those_o that_o come_v in_o &_o these_o minister_n be_v concern_v upon_o their_o faith_n to_o the_o great_a shepherd_n to_o endeavour_v what_o they_o can_v to_o save_v his_o lamb_n from_o the_o wolf_n and_o give_v faithful_a ministerial_a warning_n of_o their_o flock_n hazard_v next_o he_o tell_v we_o though_o a_o minister_n be_v transport_v against_o his_o will_n yet_o the_o people_n shall_v submit_v to_o his_o successor_n true_o when_o for_o the_o church_n great_a good_n he_o be_v transport_v to_o another_o watchtower_n by_o her_o faithful_a guide_n and_o true_a church_n judicatories_n but_o not_o when_o the_o true_a pastor_n be_v chase_v away_o by_o usurp_a perjure_a prelate_n and_o a_o intrude_a hireling_n bring_v in_o as_o their_o vicar_n it_o be_v this_o man_n perted_a self_n to_o use_v his_o own_o phrase_n here_o that_o blur_v his_o eye_n to_o draw_v a_o similitudinar_a argument_n from_o such_o a_o absimilar_v instance_n one_o thing_n he_o do_v well_o to_o add_v as_o a_o proviso_n viz_o the_o successor_n come_v in_o upon_o a_o orderly_a or_o fair_a call_n and_o do_v this_o man_n think_v that_o conformist_n have_v this_o orderly_a call_n according_a to_o the_o reformation_n and_o doctrine_n of_o this_o church_n nay_o be_v he_o not_o dispute_v against_o this_o call_n and_o so_o if_o this_o be_v a_o necessary_a condition_n of_o a_o minister_n lawful_a succession_n the_o informer_n be_v in_o the_o brier_n of_o a_o palpable_a inconsistency_n near_o of_o kin_n to_o a_o contradiction_n as_o for_o what_o he_o add_v of_o the_o necessity_n of_o a_o ministry_n and_o make_v the_o best_a of_o what_o we_o can_v help_v in_o our_o superior_n we_o say_v that_o be_v the_o ruler_n use_v their_o power_n for_o give_v one_o lawful_a pastor_n for_o another_o and_o in_o the_o method_n of_o this_o church_n and_o according_a to_o the_o scripture_n pattern_n by_o lawful_a church_n indicatory_n these_o reason_n will_v say_v something_o but_o when_o they_o have_v overturn_v the_o reformation_n of_o a_o church_n and_o contrary_a to_o that_o church_n vow_n and_o their_o own_o be_v obtrude_a abjure_v prelate_n and_o a_o number_n of_o profane_a hireling_n as_o their_o depute_n to_o exclude_v and_o ruin_v a_o faithful_a ministry_n his_o reason_n in_o this_o case_n be_v naught_o and_o speak_v nothing_o to_o the_o point_n as_o for_o what_o he_o add_v afterward_o of_o minister_n in_o the_o year_n 1648_o eject_v for_o assert_v their_o duty_n to_o the_o king_n and_o their_o submit_v while_o other_o be_v put_v into_o their_o charge_n i_o answer_v he_o will_v never_o while_o he_o breathe_v be_v able_a to_o prove_v that_o they_o be_v depose_v for_o assert_v their_o duty_n to_o the_o king_n and_o not_o rather_o for_o promote_a a_o ungodly_a course_n tend_v to_o the_o king_n ruin_n and_o the_o ruin_n of_o our_o reformation_n and_o for_o other_o piece_n of_o their_o scandalous_a miscarriage_n by_o the_o true_a lawful_a judicatories_n of_o this_o church_n so_o that_o upon_o both_o ground_n the_o flock_n be_v concern_v to_o submit_v to_o such_o faithful_a pastor_n as_o be_v set_v over_o they_o in_o the_o way_n and_o method_n of_o this_o church_n and_o according_a to_o the_o scripture_n pattern_n his_o last_o answer_n to_o this_o argument_n of_o his_o doubter_n anent_o conformist_n intrusion_n be_v that_o presbyterian_a
as_o such_o let_v our_o informer_n take_v heed_n of_o this_o praemunire_n for_o this_o dangerous_a error_n which_o he_o have_v fall_v into_o will_v expose_v he_o to_o the_o severe_a censure_n of_o all_o protestant_n church_n 2_o hence_o minister_n who_o be_v ordain_v by_o prelate_n with_o presbyter_n concur_v be_v no_o more_o bind_v yea_o less_o bound_n to_o renounce_v their_o ordination_n simple_o then_o zuinglius_fw-la or_o luther_n be_v oblige_v to_o renounce_v they_o especial_o since_o their_o ordination_n be_v in_o a_o protestant_n church_n and_o under_o prelate_n own_v the_o protestant_n profession_n which_o our_o informer_n charity_n will_v no_o doubt_n esteem_v a_o considerable_a difference_n and_o their_o not_o renounce_v it_o simpliciter_fw-la will_v no_o more_o make_v they_o still_o dependent_a upon_o the_o prelate_n as_o to_o their_o ministry_n when_o prelate_n be_v remove_v then_o zuinglius_fw-la and_o luther_n be_v dependent_a upon_o the_o pope_n as_o to_o their_o ordination_n and_o the_o act_n flow_v therefrom_o after_o their_o separation_n from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n or_o infer_v that_o they_o do_v owe_v their_o baptism_n to_o the_o pope_n or_o the_o ordination_n of_o the_o popish_a priest_n who_o baptize_v they_o and_o be_v concern_v to_o be_v rebaptise_v so_o that_o the_o popish_a cause_n and_o interest_n be_v much_o oblige_v to_o our_o informer_n if_o his_o plead_n for_o our_o prelacy_n will_v hold_v good_a and_o it_o be_v no_o bad_a omen_n that_o both_o interest_n be_v thus_o embark_v together_o in_o this_o man_n and_o his_o fellow_n reason_v for_o they_o and_o must_v stand_v and_o fall_v together_o which_o fortify_v our_o hope_n and_o confidence_n that_o as_o the_o first_o have_v begin_v to_o fall_v so_o the_o other_o shall_v gradual_o decay_v wither_v and_o fall_v with_o it_o chap._n iu._n the_o informer_n answer_v to_o the_o doubter_n argument_n anent_o separation_n from_o a_o corrupt_a church_n and_o the_o retort_v charge_n of_o schism_n upon_o conformist_n examine_v our_o doubt-resolv_a will_v seem_v ingenuous_a in_o offer_v a_o answer_n to_o some_o chief_a objection_n against_o the_o own_n of_o conformist_n and_o therefore_o put_v into_o the_o mouth_n of_o his_o personat_fw-la doubter_n some_o more_o argument_n in_o such_o a_o mould_n as_o he_o suppose_v be_v for_o his_o best_a advantadge_n which_o i_o shall_v now_o consider_v and_o deal_v faithful_o with_o he_o and_o his_o suppose_a doubter_n in_o present_v these_o argument_n which_o he_o have_v disguise_v in_o their_o genuine_a strength_n and_o shall_v examine_v his_o answer_n which_o when_o weigh_v in_o the_o scripture_n balance_n and_o according_a to_o the_o true_a state_n of_o this_o question_n will_v no_o doubt_n be_v find_v as_o empty_v and_o insignificant_a as_o any_o of_o the_o precede_a the_o doubter_n have_v another_o argument_n that_o we_o be_v warrant_v by_o the_o word_n to_o separat_fw-la from_o a_o corrupt_a church_n this_o objection_n he_o curtly_a and_o advantageous_o propones_fw-la make_v his_o doubter_n suppose_v 1._o a_o confess_a separation_n in_o this_o practice_n from_o a_o church_n to_o which_o we_o be_v bind_v to_o adhere_v which_o this_o new_a advocate_n have_v not_o as_o yet_o make_v good_a 2._o that_o any_o corruption_n general_o or_o such_o as_o may_v denominate_v a_o church_n in_o some_o measure_n corrupt_a will_v warrant_v a_o separation_n which_o be_v a_o principle_n we_o do_v not_o own_o we_o acknowledge_v a_o church_n may_v be_v join_v with_o lawful_o wherein_o there_o be_v great_a corruption_n and_o this_o with_o mr_n durham_n and_o other_o on_o that_o subject_n but_o as_o to_o corruption_n we_o say_v if_o the_o controvert_v join_v be_v in_o that_o which_o be_v clear_a and_o necessary_a duty_n in_o the_o present_a circumstance_n there_o can_v be_v in_o this_o join_v no_o stain_n but_o in_o so_o far_o as_o a_o concurrence_n with_o that_o which_o be_v duty_n out_o of_o that_o complex_fw-la case_n can_v be_v perform_v without_o a_o direct_a compliance_n with_o or_o stain_v of_o these_o corruption_n than_o a_o proportion_a separation_n be_v needful_a in_o so_o far_o as_o suitable_a to_o that_o exigence_n and_o yet_o even_o in_o this_o case_n we_o assert_v that_o other_o duty_n in_o the_o fellowship_n with_o that_o same_o church_n may_v be_v own_v and_o that_o fellowship_n be_v not_o entire_o to_o be_v break_v off_o upon_o the_o precede_a ground_n in_o these_o thing_n wherein_o there_o be_v no_o such_o hazard_n but_o now_o what_o say_v he_o to_o this_o argument_n 1._o he_o tell_v we_o we_o be_v mistake_v if_o we_o think_v the_o bishop_n a_o corruption_n and_o that_o this_o will_v not_o be_v grant_v ans._n i_o hope_v i_o have_v make_v it_o evident_a that_o they_o be_v a_o corruption_n and_o therefore_o to_o be_v disow_v the_o 2_o answer_n be_v that_o its_o a_o mistake_n to_o think_v that_o for_o corruption_n and_o even_o great_a corruption_n a_o church_n be_v to_o be_v separate_z from_o then_o he_o tell_v we_o of_o the_o corrupt_a of_o the_o church_n of_o galatia_n that_o in_o the_o church_n of_o corinth_n a_o article_n of_o the_o creed_n be_v deny_v that_o there_o be_v great_a fault_n in_o the_o asian_a church_n rev._n 2._o 3._o and_o of_o the_o great_a corruption_n that_o be_v in_o the_o church_n of_o israel_n as_o be_v evident_a in_o the_o book_n of_o the_o king_n and_o prophet_n yet_o the_o people_n of_o god_n be_v not_o command_v to_o separat_fw-la as_o long_o as_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o worship_n be_v not_o corrupt_v as_o it_o be_v by_o jeroboam_n calf_n ans._n 1._o what_o if_o presbyterian_o shall_v borrow_v this_o argument_n from_o he_o and_o from_o these_o instance_n of_o not_o separate_v from_o a_o church_n notwithstanding_o of_o great_a corruption_n shall_v plead_v for_o all_o professor_n in_o scotland_n their_o adhere_n to_o presbyterian_a minister_n and_o this_o presbyterian_a church_n as_o have_v a_o worship_n not_o substantial_o corrupt_v whatever_o other_o personal_a fault_n or_o corruption_n they_o may_v be_v liable_a unto_o that_o yet_o they_o be_v a_o true_a church_n as_o to_o the_o main_a and_o that_o therefore_o they_o ought_v to_o be_v join_v with_o as_o the_o church_n of_o corinth_n and_o galatia_n wherein_o there_o be_v great_a corruption_n be_v still_o adhere_v to_o by_o professor_n what_o will_v he_o say_v in_o this_o case_n i_o know_v he_o will_v say_v that_o its_o ridiculous_a for_o such_o a_o party_n of_o schismatic_n to_o call_v ourselves_o the_o church_n of_o scotland_n but_o what_o if_o we_o return_v this_o answer_n to_o he_o again_o that_o according_a to_o the_o reformation_n and_o principle_n of_o our_o church_n out_o of_o which_o prelate_n be_v eject_v vow_n against_o they_o universal_o take_v on_o and_o presbyterial_a government_n complete_o settle_v therein_o its_o ridiculous_a to_o call_v a_o party_n of_o prelate_n and_o their_o adherent_n the_o church_n of_o scotland_n or_o for_o they_o to_o usurp_v her_o name_n who_o have_v thus_o overturn_v her_o reformation_n so_o that_o until_o he_o make_v good_a the_o above_o mention_v hypothese_n or_o supposition_n viz._n that_o conformist_n be_v the_o true_a organic_n church_n of_o scotland_n that_o this_o our_o practice_n be_v a_o separation_n proper_o such_o that_o its_o mere_o because_o of_o conformist_n personal_a fault_n that_o we_o withdraw_v that_o we_o be_v under_o prior_n obligation_n to_o adhere_v unto_o curate_n with_o all_o their_o corruption_n rather_o than_o our_o presbyterian_a ministry_n and_o church_n which_o be_v both_o free_a of_o they_o and_o contend_v against_o they_o until_o these_o and_o such_o like_a supposition_n be_v make_v good_a his_o argument_n from_o the_o precede_a scripture_n jostance_n as_o to_o join_v with_o a_o church_n that_o have_v corruption_n be_v a_o meet_a petitio_fw-la principii_fw-la and_o will_v not_o help_v his_o cause_n in_o the_o least_o which_o will_v be_v further_a evident_a if_o we_o consider_v in_o the_o 2d_o place_n that_o the_o case_n of_o these_o church_n and_o professor_n therein_o be_v far_o from_o we_o in_o relation_n to_o corruption_n for_o 1._o the_o doctrinal_a corruption_n of_o galatia_n as_o to_o the_o legal_a ceremony_n by_o the_o bad_a influence_n of_o judaize_v teacher_n though_o they_o be_v of_o a_o large_a yet_o the_o informer_n will_v not_o prove_v they_o be_v either_o of_o such_o a_o universal_a spread_v and_o tincture_n or_o strengthen_v by_o such_o a_o universal_a acknowledgement_n as_o to_o make_v the_o state_n of_o that_o church_n correspond_v with_o his_o hypothesis_n in_o this_o argument_n 2._o that_o error_n in_o the_o church_n of_o corinth_n in_o relation_n to_o the_o resurrection_n appear_v not_o to_o have_v be_v own_v by_o their_o teacher_n and_o church_n officer_n far_o less_o public_o avow_v and_o obstinate_o and_o presumptuous_o maintair_v by_o they_o or_o any_o considerable_a number_n of_o hearer_n which_o make_v their_o case_n wide_o from_o
they_o will_v not_o have_v allow_v and_o command_v the_o faithful_a prophet_n and_o member_n of_o that_o church_n to_o oppose_v they_o and_o cleave_v unto_o their_o respective_a duty_n and_o unto_o one_o another_o in_o the_o follow_v thereof_o as_o for_o what_o he_o add_v that_o there_o be_v then_o no_o command_n to_o separat_fw-la from_o the_o worship_n while_o it_o be_v not_o substantial_o corrupt_v i_o wonder_v if_o he_o will_v charge_v a_o corruption_n of_o the_o worship_n itself_o or_o in_o the_o substance_n thereof_o upon_o the_o duty_n now_o own_v and_o perform_v by_o presbyterian_a minister_n and_o professor_n from_o who_o he_o notwithstanding_o think_v its_o duty_n to_o separat_fw-la so_o that_o until_o he_o prove_v as_o i_o say_v conformist_n their_o better_a claim_n to_o officiat_fw-la as_o minister_n of_o this_o church_n then_o presbyterian_a minister_n this_o argument_n light_v heavy_a on_o himself_o and_o the_o censure_n put_v upon_o novatian_n and_o donatist_n fall_v upon_o their_o divide_n and_o destroy_v party_n the_o case_n of_o these_o schismatic_n be_v as_o far_o from_o we_o as_o east_n from_o west_n be_v novatian_n or_o donatist_n first_o cast_v out_o by_o a_o violent_a backslide_a party_n for_o not_o concur_v in_o a_o course_n of_o backslide_v in_o overturning_a a_o church_n swear_v reformation_n and_o be_v they_o enjoin_v &_o command_v to_o own_o the_o course_n of_o these_o backslider_n i_o think_v the_o donatist_n &_o novatian_n their_o violence_n against_o adherer_n to_o the_o union_n of_o the_o true_a church_n be_v a_o fit_a emblem_n of_o the_o present_a practice_n of_o conformist_n how_o can_v this_o man_n say_v that_o there_o be_v then_o great_a corruption_n they_o now_o can_v there_o be_v great_a corruption_n in_o government_n then_o a_o papacy_n of_o the_o high_a degree_n as_o be_v their_o premacy_n and_o hierarchy_n can_v there_o be_v great_a corruption_n in_o practice_n than_o perjury_n and_o such_o gross_a profanity_n as_o conformist_n be_v blot_v with_o for_o the_o most_o part_n great_a corruption_n in_o principle_n then_o popish_a arminian_n error_n etc._n etc._n the_o doubter_n object_n that_o if_o we_o may_v not_o separat_fw-la from_o a_o corrupt_a church_n what_o mean_v these_o scripture_n command_v enjoin_v separation_n such_o as_o 2_o cor._n 6._o 14_o 15_o 16._o 1_o cor._n 5._o 11_o 2_o thes_n 3._o 6_o rev._n 18._o 3_o we_o have_v already_o say_v that_o he_o deal_v deceitful_o in_o make_v his_o presbyterian_a doubter_n assert_v that_o we_o may_v separat_fw-la from_o a_o corrupt_a church_n in_o every_o case_n but_o this_o we_o say_v that_o in_o whatever_o case_n and_o in_o how_o far_o soever_o we_o can_v join_v with_o a_o corrupt_a church_n without_o the_o contagion_n and_o stain_n of_o its_o corruption_n in_o so_o far_o and_o in_o that_o case_n a_o separation_n be_v necessary_a and_o fall_v within_o the_o compass_n of_o these_o scripture_n command_v and_o that_o in_o this_o our_o case_n the_o demand_v conformity_n as_o to_o presbyterian_a minister_n and_o professor_n can_v be_v yield_v without_o the_o stain_n of_o prelatist_n their_o sin_n be_v above_o clear_v so_o that_o he_o need_v not_o tell_v we_o here_o that_o every_o corruption_n be_v not_o a_o sufficient_a ground_n of_o separation_n for_o we_o have_v hear_v our_o informer_n acknowledge_v that_o a_o church_n may_v be_v in_o that_o degree_n corrupt_v as_o will_v render_v a_o separation_n warrantable_a yea_o and_o necessary_a i_o can_v wish_v he_o have_v condescend_v upon_o that_o degree_n of_o corruption_n and_o show_v we_o here_o the_o maximum_fw-la quod_fw-la sic_fw-la &_o minimum_fw-la quod_fw-la non_fw-la as_o to_o the_o ground_n of_o this_o separation_n and_o how_o far_o these_o corruption_n may_v strike_v at_o a_o church_n vital_n and_o yet_o her_o life_n and_o essence_n as_o a_o church_n subsist_v and_o here_o i_o will_v close_v in_o a_o little_a with_o this_o man_n and_o inquire_v that_o since_o a_o church_n corruption_n will_v with_o he_o in_o some_o case_n render_v a_o separation_n necessary_a upon_o what_o ground_n be_v it_o necessary_a and_o from_o what_o prior_n principle_n be_v this_o conclude_v sure_o it_o must_v be_v upon_o this_o ground_n left_a union_n with_o that_o church_n blot_n the_o soul_n and_o make_v we_o share_v in_o her_o sin_n so_o that_o in_o this_o case_n we_o be_v not_o oblige_v to_o hold_v union_n and_o fellowship_n with_o she_o when_o it_o be_v infectious_a as_o be_v most_o clear_o import_v in_o that_o command_n 2_o cor._n 6._o and_o if_o separation_n be_v upon_o this_o ground_n allow_v whether_o the_o corruption_n be_v lesser_a or_o great_a eatenus_fw-la or_o in_o so_o far_o we_o be_v oblige_v to_o separat_fw-la for_o majus_n &_o minus_fw-la non_fw-la variant_n speciem_fw-la rei_fw-la next_o i_o infer_v that_o a_o non-union_n to_o a_o corrupt_a party_n who_o can_v be_v call_v the_o church_n or_o at_o lest_o who_o be_v the_o church_n be_v magnalis_fw-la &_o sub_fw-la judice_fw-la will_v be_v a_o fortiori_fw-la warrant_v and_o upon_o lesser_a ground_n than_o separation_n which_o suppose_v a_o anterior_a obligation_n of_o union_n and_o actual_a union_n out_o of_o this_o case_n and_o abstract_v from_o it_o but_o for_o these_o scripture_n mention_v he_o say_v they_o will_v not_o prove_v our_o point_n and_o to_o that_o of_o 2_o cor_fw-la 6._o 14._o he_o answer_v that_o our_o lord_n be_v speak_v of_o separate_n from_o ungodly_a fellowship_n with_o idolater_n not_o of_o withdraw_v from_o christian_n assembly_n but_o do_v he_o not_o enjoin_v that_o separation_n because_o of_o the_o hazard_n of_o infection_n by_o their_o sin_n and_o why_o not_o also_o from_o christian_n assembly_n where_o there_o be_v the_o same_o hazard_n of_o this_o infection_n do_v he_o not_o acknowledge_v that_o the_o case_n of_o a_o church_n or_o christian_n assembly_n may_v be_v such_o as_o will_v render_v even_o a_o separation_n necessary_a now_o if_o in_o this_o case_n the_o tender_a separater_n shall_v plead_v this_o text_n and_o that_o corrupt_a church_n or_o assembly_n of_o christian_n give_v our_o informer_n answer_v viz._n that_o it_o plead_v only_o for_o separate_v from_o fellowship_n with_o idolater_n not_o of_o withdraw_v from_o christian_n assembly_n how_o will_v he_o extricat_fw-la himself_n and_o reconcile_v this_o answer_n with_o his_o concession_n but_o for_o these_o text_n 1_o cor._n 5._o 11._o and_o 2_o thess._n 3._o 6._o he_o say_v they_o be_v mean_v only_o of_o needless_a fellowship_n in_o private_a converse_n with_o scandalous_a person_n but_o allow_v not_o to_o withdraw_v from_o the_o public_a worship_n because_o of_o the_o presence_n of_o such_o scandalous_a one_o as_o if_o this_o do_v pollute_v the_o worship_n though_o it_o may_v be_v the_o fault_n of_o church_n guide_v not_o to_o keep_v they_o back_o ans._n the_o ground_n here_o be_v the_o same_o and_o acknowledge_v by_o he_o whatever_o be_v the_o withdraw_n which_o be_v more_o immediate_o enjoin_v viz._n lest_o their_o fellowship_n prove_v contagious_a scandalous_a or_o in_o any_o measure_n sinful_a &_o so_o if_o fellowship_n with_o a_o church_n in_o her_o assembly_n be_v thus_o infectious_a these_o scripture_n do_v enjoin_v a_o separation_n upon_o the_o same_o ground_n and_o by_o necessary_a consequence_n from_o what_o he_o have_v acknowlege_v and_o therefore_o this_o answer_n be_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n unless_o he_o will_v retract_v his_o concession_n that_o there_o may_v be_v corruption_n in_o a_o church_n and_o her_o assembly_n which_o will_v render_v a_o separation_n necessary_a next_o as_o for_o what_o he_o add_v that_o ordinance_n be_v not_o pollute_v by_o the_o presence_n of_o scandalous_a one_o it_o be_v not_o for_o he_o nor_o against_o we_o since_o he_o acknowledge_v there_o may_v be_v a_o lawful_a yea_o necessary_a separation_n from_o a_o church_n &_o her_o assembly_n in_o worship_n though_o not_o upon_o this_o ground_n of_o the_o ordinance_n their_o pollution_n by_o the_o presence_n of_o scandalous_a one_o because_o of_o the_o reason_n which_o we_o have_v already_o hear_v and_o we_o do_v also_o upon_o other_o ground_n than_o this_o of_o a_o pretend_a pollution_n of_o the_o ordinance_n by_o their_o scandal_n maintain_v our_o disow_a conformist_n in_o their_o worship_n to_o be_v a_o duty_n as_o we_o have_v hear_v even_o that_o they_o be_v force_v all_o to_o a_o sinful_a compliance_n with_o they_o in_o a_o schismatic_n depart_v from_o the_o unity_n of_o this_o church_n and_o perjurious_a overturning_a the_o work_n of_o reformation_n and_o will_v neither_o suffer_v minister_n nor_o professor_n to_o join_v with_o they_o in_o worship_n but_o with_o a_o express_a aknowledgement_n in_o the_o intent_n of_o our_o law_n and_o own_v of_o this_o defection_n sure_o we_o be_v command_v to_o withdraw_v from_o every_o brother_n that_o walk_v disorderly_a which_o our_o informer_n plead_v as_o a_o sufficient_a ground_n to_o disowne_v presbyterian_a minister_n &_o
will_v warrant_n separation_n but_o that_o this_o with_o many_o other_o presumptuous_o maintain_v and_o avow_v will_v warrant_v a_o non-union_n unto_o a_o schismatic_a party_n of_o innovator_n destroy_v and_o overturning_a a_o well_o reform_a church_n and_o root_a out_o a_o faithful_a remnant_n of_o adherer_n thereto_o as_o for_o the_o want_n of_o the_o circumcision_n and_o the_o passover_n for_o sometime_o in_o the_o jewish_a church_n which_o he_o next_o plead_v as_o that_o which_o do_v not_o cause_v a_o separation_n not_o to_o stand_v upon_o the_o particular_a impediment_n of_o circumcision_n while_o in_o the_o wilderness_n or_o a_o inquiry_n into_o what_o special_a let_n may_v have_v have_v a_o influence_n or_o a_o sinful_a influence_n upon_o the_o disuse_n of_o the_o passover_n yet_o conformist_n case_n who_o be_v but_o a_o schismatic_n unsound_a part_n of_o this_o church_n reject_v a_o approve_a ordinance_n and_o duty_n in_o compliance_n with_o and_o subserviency_n unto_o a_o perjurious_a course_n of_o defection_n be_v so_o far_o discrepant_a from_o this_o that_o any_o may_v see_v the_o disparity_n as_o for_o that_o of_o 2_o king_n 23._o 22._o that_o there_o be_v not_o hold_v such_o a_o passover_n as_o that_o of_o josiah_n from_o the_o day_n of_o the_o judge_n that_o judge_v israel_n nor_o in_o all_o the_o day_n of_o the_o king_n of_o israel_n nor_o of_o the_o king_n of_o judah_n it_o be_v only_o speak_v comparatiu_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o spirituality_n and_o s●…lemnity_n of_o that_o passover_n and_o do_v not_o suppose_v one_fw-mi absolute_a disuse_n of_o this_o ordinance_n through_o all_o that_o time_n a_o learned_a interpreter_n upon_o this_o passage_n do_v paraphrase_n the_o verse_n thus_o that_o there_o be_v no_o passover_n celebrat_n with_o so_o solemn_a care_n great_a preparation_n and_o universal_a joy_n the_o great_a because_o of_o their_o remembrance_n of_o their_o miserable_a time_n under_o manasseh_n and_o amon._n and_o that_o from_o the_o day_n of_o samuel_n the_o last_o of_o the_o judge_n as_o it_o be_v exexpress_v 2_o chron._n 35._o 18._o none_o of_o the_o king_n have_v with_o such_o care_n prepare_v themselves_o the_o priest_n and_o people_n to_o renew_v their_o covenat_n with_o god_n as_o josiah_n now_o do_v and_o as_o he_o will_v not_o be_v able_a to_o prove_v that_o out_o of_o the_o case_n of_o persecution_n invasion_n dispersion_n or_o captivity_n and_o the_o inevitable_a necessity_n flow_v from_o these_o there_o be_v a_o warrantable_a disuse_n of_o these_o holy_a ordinance_n so_o professor_n their_o not_o separate_v from_o that_o church_n even_o upon_o a_o sinful_a disuse_n will_n never_o come_v home_o to_o his_o purpose_n as_o be_v already_o oft_o clear_v 5._o he_o add_v that_o upon_o this_o ground_n we_o will_v separat_fw-la from_o all_o other_o church_n and_o from_o our_o own_o church_n before_o the_o year_n 1645._o and_o then_o he_o will_v please_v we_o again_o by_o tell_v we_o that_o he_o can_v wish_v all_o sermon_n be_v as_o lecture_n the_o chief_a point_n of_o a_o long_a text_n be_v propound_v which_o will_v be_v more_o edify_v then_o when_o they_o rack_v thè_z text_n and_o their_o brain_n a_o native_a and_o kindly_a character_n of_o his_o party_n and_o their_o preach_n to_o seek_v matter_n from_o their_o text_n to_o hold_v out_o the_o time_n but_o we_o have_v oft_o tell_v he_o that_o it_o be_v not_o this_o defect_n only_o or_o without_o the_o circumstance_n of_o our_o present_a case_n that_o we_o plead_v as_o a_o ground_n of_o disow_v they_o and_o if_o he_o account_v the_o lecture-method_n of_o preach_v the_o more_o edify_a with_o what_o conscience_n have_v they_o deprive_v god_n people_n of_o this_o exercise_n &_o method_n of_o preach_v upon_o my_o lord_n bishop_n order_n it_o seem_v his_o ipse_fw-la dixit_fw-la be_v the_o first_o rule_n of_o edification_n with_o our_o informer_n and_o his_o fellow_n a_o principle_n well_o suit_v to_o lawless_a and_o lordly_a prelacy_n which_o must_v have_v all_o ordinance_n mancipate_v to_o its_o arbitrary_a command_n so_o that_o our_o informer_n give_v the_o supreme_a magistrate_n a_o papal_a power_n over_o church-government_n and_o solemn_a sacred_a oath_n and_o vow_n in_o the_o precede_a dialogue_n and_o the_o bishop_n a_o dominion_n over_o worship_n in_o this_o put_v pityful_a fetter_n upon_o christ_n glorious_a bride_n and_o as_o in_o this_o point_n and_o most_o of_o his_o reason_n in_o beg_v the_o question_n he_o but_o skirmish_n with_o his_o own_o shadow_n so_o in_o thus_o wound_v our_o church_n by_o his_o dangerous_a lax_n principle_n in_o his_o pretend_a heal_v but_o true_o hurtful_a and_o trifle_a dialogue_n he_o show_v himself_o to_o be_v a_o physician_n of_o no_o value_n chap._n v._n the_o informer_n answer_n and_o reason_v upon_o the_o point_n of_o scandal_n and_o offence_n in_o reference_n to_o the_o own_n of_o conformist_n consider_v his_o dangerous_a principle_n both_o as_o to_o civil_a and_o ecclesiastic_a power_n in_o this_o point_n his_o answer_n to_o the_o doubter_n argument_n for_o presbyterian_a minister_n preach_v in_o the_o manner_n controvert_v take_v from_o the_o practice_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n examine_v his_o absurd_a principle_n ●…nent_a the_o magistrate_n coercive_a power_n over_o the_o exercise_n of_o the_o ministerial_a office_n have_v discover_v this_o man_n unsoundness_n in_o the_o point_v above_o examine_v wherein_o we_o have_v see_v how_o in_o oppose_v the_o lord_n work_v his_o faithful_a servant_n their_o labour_n in_o promote_a it_o he_o have_v dash_v against_o the_o scripture_n and_o sound_n divine_v and_o state_v himself_o in_o opposition_n to_o both_o we_o shall_v next_o discover_v some_o more_o of_o his_o error_n which_o be_v the_o issue_n of_o the_o former_a &_o of_o the_o wicked_a design_n for_o promote_a whereof_o they_o be_v present_v the_o first_o that_o offer_v itself_o to_o be_v consider_v be_v in_o the_o point_n of_o scandal_n from_o which_o we_o argue_v against_o the_o own_n of_o confor●…ists_n as_o be_v above_o express_v and_o this_o grand_a doubt-resolv_a will_n needs_o discuss_v it_o but_o with_o what_o success_n we_o shall_v present_o see_v his_o doubter_n in_o the_o next_o place_n offer_v to_o he_o a_o argument_n against_o hear_v conformist_n take_v from_o the_o offence_n and_o stumble_v of_o many_o godly_a flow_v from_o this_o practice_n of_o hear_v they_o since_o they_o look_v upon_o it_o as_o a_o sin_n and_o tell_v he_o that_o the_o apostle_n say_v we_o must_v not_o give_v offence_n nor_o lay_v a_o stumble_a block_n before_o other_o we_o have_v already_o propose_v and_o some_o way_n improven_v this_o argument_n from_o the_o scandal_n of_o the_o weak_a in_o this_o case_n to_o this_o he_o first_o answer_n that_o when_o we_o be_v forbid_v to_o give_v offence_n it_o be_v mean_v of_o not_o do_v that_o which_o be_v of_o itself_o sinful_a whereby_o we_o grieve_v the_o godly_a and_o lay_v a_o stumble_a block_n in_o the_o way_n of_o other_o by_o our_o evil_a example_n but_o when_o we_o do_v our_o duty_n in_o obey_v god_n we_o can_v give_v offence_n to_o any_o and_o if_o they_o take_v offence_n be_v their_o own_o sin_n and_o weakness_n but_o none_o be_v give_v as_o here_o he_o say_v it_o be_v their_o weakness_n to_o offend_v at_o maintain_v unity_n and_o peace_n that_o this_o rather_o give_v a_o good_a example_n and_o to_o lie_v by_o from_o hear_v conformist_n for_o fear_n of_o offence_n of_o the_o weak_a be_v to_o omit_v duty_n and_o harden_v they_o in_o sin_n ans._n the_o informer_n offer_v this_o reply_n from_o the_o sense_n of_o that_o scripture_n general_o hint_v by_o his_o doubter_n seem_v at_o first_o view_n to_o restrict_n the_o command_n of_o not_o give_v offence_n to_o that_o which_o be_v in_o itself_o sinful_a wherein_o it_o may_v easy_o be_v make_v appear_v that_o he_o contradict_v sound_a divine_n scripture_n and_o himself_o especial_o the_o passage_n to_o which_o the_o doubter_n refer_v be_v of_o a_o far_a other_o sense_n and_o scope_n but_o lest_o this_o censure_n shall_v appear_v too_o critical_a and_o upon_o consideration_n of_o his_o second_o answer_n i_o shall_v not_o meddle_v with_o what_o he_o say_v here_o in_o thesi_fw-la or_o this_o assertion_n in_o itself_o consider_v but_o to_o the_o assumption_n &_o application_n of_o this_o passage_n in_o his_o answer_n i_o return_v to_o he_o this_o in_o short_a that_o he_o do_v but_o here_o still_o beg_v the_o question_n in_o suppose_v that_o the_o own_n of_o curate_n be_v in_o this_o our_o case_n a_o duty_n and_o a_o maintain_n of_o peace_n and_o order_n in_o the_o church_n whereof_o we_o have_v make_v the_o contrary_n appear_v and_o that_o maintain_v the_o true_a union_n and_o peace_n of_o this_o church_n be_v to_o own_o her_o true_a and_o faithful_a ambassador_n contend_v for_o her_o reformation_n true_a order_n and_o union_n against_o
all_o ordinary_a place_n appoint_v for_o divine_a worship_n nay_o scarce_o any_o place_n of_o residence_n in_o their_o native_a land_n free_a from_o the_o fulmina_fw-la &_o thunderbolt_n of_o prelate_n mad_a rage_n but_o what_o say_v he_o to_o this_o argument_n he_o tell_v we_o 1._o that_o though_o christ_n preach_v thus_o yet_o it_o be_v not_o to_o separat_fw-la from_o the_o jewish_a church_n nor_o do_v he_o disowne_v the_o hear_n of_o their_o teacher_n but_o allow_v to_o hear_v scribe_n and_o pharisee_n with_o a_o proviso_n to_o beware_v of_o their_o leaven_n that_o he_o send_v those_o who_o be_v miraculous_o heal_v to_o the_o priest_n and_o do_v not_o bid_v disowne_v they_o ans._n 1._o whatever_o be_v conclude_v as_o to_o christ_n disow_v or_o separate_a the_o people_n from_o the_o teacher_n of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o jew_n at_o that_o time_n wherein_o the_o informer_n have_v offer_v nothing_o which_o will_v amount_v to_o a_o demonstration_n of_o what_o he_o affirm_v and_o his_o assertion_n tho_o grant_v will_v not_o fortify_v the_o conclusion_n he_o aim_v at_o yet_o this_o be_v certain_a and_o undeniable_a and_o in_o so_o far_o his_o doubter_n parallel_v argument_n stand_v inviolable_a against_o he_o viz._n that_o our_o bless_a lord_n preach_v after_o this_o manner_n which_o he_o condemn_v since_o he_o condemn_v in_o universum_fw-la &_o simple_o presbyterian_a minister_n preach_v and_o people_n hear_v they_o in_o this_o manner_n abstract_v from_o the_o disow_n of_o curate_n and_o their_o ministry_n so_o that_o this_o answer_n meet_v not_o the_o objection_n as_o level_v against_o his_o principle_n and_o he_o can_v deny_v but_o that_o in_o so_o far_o as_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n be_v own_v their_o ordinary_a jewish_a teacher_n be_v separat_fw-la from_o and_o disow_v but_o he_o condemn_v all_o own_n of_o presbyterian_a minister_n and_o withdraw_v from_o curate_n as_o ingraind_a schism_n and_o sinful_a separation_n this_o answer_n be_v the_o more_o forcible_a if_o it_o be_v consider_v that_o our_o lord_n have_v liberty_n of_o their_o synagogue_n to_o preach_v in_o yet_o he_o frequent_o leave_v they_o and_o preach_v in_o private_a house_n and_o in_o the_o field_n and_o therefore_o presbyterian_a minister_n may_v use_v this_o liberty_n who_o in_o a_o piece_n of_o cruelty_n beyond_o that_o of_o the_o scribe_n and_o pharisee_n to_o christ_n they_o have_v banish_v from_o pulpit_n 2._o as_o for_o our_o lord_n not_o put_v people_n to_o separat_fw-la from_o that_o church_n or_o the_o teacher_n thereof_o we_o have_v already_o show_v how_o far_o it_o be_v from_o his_o purpose_n and_o what_o a_o wide_a consequenceit_n be_v from_o a_o non-separation_n from_o the_o jewish_a church_n and_o teacher_n though_o corrupt_v while_o that_o legal_a dispensation_n stand_v which_o be_v short_o to_o be_v remove_v and_o the_o gospel_n ministry_n erect_v in_o its_o place_n and_o from_o our_o lord_n tolerance_n thereof_o as_o god_n ancient_a ministry_n though_o now_o corrupt_a to_o which_o he_o be_v to_o put_v a_o honourable_a close_a to_o conclude_v that_o a_o people_n be_v to_o disowne_v a_o faithful_a gospel_n ministry_n and_o church_n in_o compliance_n with_o a_o number_n of_o destroy_a innovator_n eject_v they_o and_o raze_v a_o swear_a reformation_n which_o all_o that_o church_n be_v bind_v to_o defend_v this_o be_v such_o a_o palpable_a inconsequence_n as_o any_o may_v upon_o first_o view_n discover_v it_o 3._o there_o be_v beside_o what_o be_v say_v this_o reason_n in_o special_a wherefore_o our_o lord_n will_v not_o have_v the_o jewish_a ministry_n at_o first_o universal_o leave_v because_o he_o come_v as_o a_o minister_n of_o the_o circumcision_n to_o confirm_v the_o promise_n make_v to_o the_o father_n he_o be_v to_o come_v to_o the_o temple_n as_o the_o king_n son_n and_o lord_n of_o all_o the_o prophet_n who_o go_v before_o he_o the_o law_n be_v to_o go_v forth_o from_o zion_n and_o the_o word_n from_o jerusalem_n jesus_n come_v first_o to_o his_o own_o therefore_o the_o jewish_a ministry_n and_o teach_n be_v to_o stand_v for_o a_o time_n to_o make_v this_o apparent_a and_o as_o christ_n great_a witness_n for_o his_o authority_n and_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o gospel_n either_o for_o their_o conviction_n or_o conversion_n hence_o he_o appeal_v unto_o the_o scripture_n which_o they_o hear_v daily_o read_v and_o preach_v search_v the_o scripture_n for_o they_o testify_v of_o i_o and_o when_o he_o enjoin_a the_o heal_v leper_n to_o go_v and_o show_v himself_o to_o the_o priest_n it_o be_v to_o offer_v the_o sacrifice_n which_o moses_n command_v for_o a_o testimony_n unto_o they_o so_o that_o to_o make_v the_o substitute_n of_o the_o gospel_n to_o the_o legal_a dispensation_n and_o ordinance_n apparent_a and_o its_o ministry_n to_o the_o jewish_a ministry_n and_o priesthood_n to_o which_o christ_n death_n and_o resurrection_n only_o be_v to_o put_v a_o final_a period_n it_o be_v necessary_a it_o shall_v be_v own_a in_o some_o measure_n and_o christ_n can_v not_o whole_o disowne_v it_o without_o stop_v a_o great_a part_n of_o his_o mediatory_a fulfil_n of_o all_o righteousness_n for_o he_o be_v as_o head_n of_o the_o circumcise_a people_n and_o as_o of_o the_o seed_n of_o abraham_n according_a to_o the_o flesh_n to_o obey_v the_o judicial_a and_o ceremonial_a law_n and_o therefore_o he_o due_o attend_v the_o passover_n and_o all_o the_o solemn_a feast_n which_o can_v not_o subsist_v in_o their_o exercise_n without_o the_o stand_n of_o that_o old_a ministry_n now_o how_o far_o this_o be_v from_o our_o question_n and_o infer_v the_o own_n of_o curate_n in_o our_o case_n be_v obvious_a to_o the_o mean_a capacity_n what_o he_o say_v of_o hear_v the_o scribe_n and_o pharisee_n be_v already_o answer_v but_o now_o this_o informer_n will_v offer_v some_o special_a reason_n of_o christs-preaching_a after_o this_o manner_n to_o cut_v short_a our_o argument_n here_o the_o first_o be_v because_o he_o be_v to_o bring_v in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o preach_v himself_o the_o true_a mes●…ah_n which_o be_v needful_a to_o be_v do_v and_o because_o of_o the_o opposition_n of_o his_o doctrine_n by_o the_o jewish_a teacher_n ans._n 1._o although_o he_o be_v to_o bring_v in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o gospel_n into_o the_o world_n yet_o as_o he_o be_v send_v first_o and_o immediate_o to_o the_o lose_a sheep_n of_o the_o house_n of_o israel_n and_o to_o exercise_v his_o ministry_n towards_o they_o main_o upon_o which_o ground_n at_o his_o first_o send_v forth_o the_o disciple_n he_o command_v they_o to_o go_v to_o these_o lose_a sheep_n not_o in_o the_o way_n of_o the_o gentile_n so_o he_o have_v the_o synagogue_n and_o temple_n to_o preach_v in_o and_o frequent_o do_v so_o and_o yet_o notwithstanding_o go_v to_o the_o field_n with_o great_a multitude_n and_o to_o other_o place_n then_o these_o appoint_v for_o their_o ordinary_a and_o public_a worship_n and_o therefore_o presbyterian_a minister_n may_v do_v the_o like_a who_o be_v deny_v our_o conformist_n synagogue_n or_o ordinary_a place_n of_o worship_n they_o be_v upon_o important_a ground_n oblige_v as_o our_o bless_a lord_n be_v to_o officiat_fw-la and_o bestir_v themselves_o in_o the_o exercise_n of_o their_o ministry_n and_o therefore_o 2._o since_o he_o reason_n from_o the_o necessity_n of_o the_o work_n which_o christ_n be_v about_o and_o the_o opposition_n which_o he_o meet_v with_o therein_o from_o his_o enemy_n these_o sameground_n plead_v strong_o for_o presbyterian_a minister_n officiate_a in_o the_o manner_n controvert_v because_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o gospel_n by_o christ_n faithful_a ambassador_n be_v never_o more_o necessary_a and_o never_o meet_v with_o great_a opposition_n from_o its_o enemy_n and_o therefore_o upon_o his_o own_o ground_n it_o follow_v that_o minister_n ought_v to_o embrace_v all_o occasion_n of_o preach_v and_o in_o any_o place_n where_o they_o can_v have_v access_n sure_o he_o dare_v not_o restrict_n the_o necessity_n of_o the_o work_n and_o the_o persecution_n from_o which_o he_o infer_v the_o lawfulness_n of_o preach_v after_o that_o manner_n to_o that_o particular_a necessity_n and_o persecution_n attend_v the_o first_o plant_n of_o the_o gospel_n or_o affirm_v that_o these_o ground_n may_v never_o again_o recur_v for_o legitimate_v of_o this_o practice_n since_o thus_o he_o will_v condemn_v ou●…_n first_o reformer_n come_v we_o to_o the_o 2d_o reason_n which_o be_v this_o christ_n be_v head_n of_o his_o whole_a church_n and_o be_v not_o to_o be_v limit_n in_o the_o manner_n of_o he_o ministry_n as_o ordinary_a teacher_n but_o may_v preach_v where_o and_o when_o he_o please_v since_o all_o belong_v to_o his_o ministry_n and_o that_o none_o will_v say_v that_o he_o be_v pastor_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n but_o the_o pope_n nor_o can_v any_o mere_a man_n do_v what_o christ_n do_v in_o
every_o thing_n but_o our_o meeting_n he_o say_v be_v in_o despite_n of_o the_o law_n and_o we_o add_v disobedience_n to_o our_o schism_n ans._n 1._o we_o shall_v easy_o acknowledge_v that_o all_o christ_n action_n be_v not_o imitable_a such_o as_o those_o of_o divine_a power_n as_o work_v of_o miracle_n and_o the_o action_n of_o divine_a prerogative_n as_o the_o take_n of_o the_o ass_n without_o the_o owner_n liberty_n the_o act_n of_o his_o special_a mediatory_a prerogative_n such_o as_o the_o endite_v of_o the_o scripture_n give_v of_o his_o spirit_n lay_v down_o his_o life_n institute_v church_n officer_n col._n 3._o 16._o joh._n 10._o 15._o mat._n 28._o 18_o 19_o these_o be_v not_o imitable_a nor_o yet_o such_o action_n as_o be_v mere_o occasional_a depend_v upon_o circumstance_n of_o time_n and_o place_n as_o the_o unleavened_a bread_n the_o time_n and_o such_o like_a circumstance_n of_o his_o supper_n but_o we_o say_v there_o be_v action_n imitable_a as_o 1._o in_o general_a christ_n exercise_n of_o grace_n which_o have_v constant_a and_o moral_a ground_n and_o be_v commend_v to_o christian_n for_o their_o imitation_n every_o christian_n life_n as_o such_o ought_v to_o be_v a_o imitation_n of_o he_o the_o precious_a mirror_n of_o grace_n mat._n 11._o 29._o learn_v of_o i_o for_o i_o be_o meek_a etc._n etc._n eph._n 5._o 2._o walk_v in_o love_n as_o christ_n also_o have_v love_v we_o joh._n 13._o 15._o i_o have_v give_v you_o a_o example_n that_o you_o shall_v do_v as_o i_o have_v do_v the_o christian_n must_v walk_v as_o he_o walk_v 1._o joh._n 2._o 6._o 2._o in_o particular_a action_n on_o moral_a ground_n flow_v from_o the_o relation_n wherein_o christ_n stand_v do_v oblige_v and_o be_v exemplary_a unto_o those_o that_o be_v under_o such_o relation_n viz._n christ_n subjection_n and_o obedience_n to_o his_o parent_n and_o pay_v tribute_n to_o caesar_n do_v exemplify_v child_n and_o subject_n their_o duty_n as_o in_o that_o capacity_n so_o his_o ministerial_a act_n and_o faithful_a diligence_n therein_o do_v exemplify_v minister_n duty_n now_o the_o question_n be_v as_o to_o this_o manner_n of_o christ_n preach_v in_o this_o case_n that_o be_v not_o in_o the_o ordinary_a and_o authorize_v assembly_n of_o that_o church_n but_o in_o the_o field_n and_o in_o house_n whether_o the_o ground_n of_o it_o will_v not_o sometime_o recur_v and_o oblige_v ordinary_a minister_n for_o it_o be_v ratio_fw-la exempli_fw-la we_o be_v to_o look_v unto_o rather_o than_o the_o mere_a circumstance_n of_o the_o individual_a act_n as_o chamier_n tell_v we_o tom._n 3._o lib._n 17._o de_fw-la jejunijs_fw-la and_o for_o evince_v this_o in_o our_o case_n our_o informer_n own_o answer_n be_v sufficient_a if_o we_o shall_v but_o suppose_v which_o neither_o our_o informer_n nor_o any_o of_o his_o fellow_n have_v ever_o be_v able_a to_o disprove_v that_o presbyterian_a minister_n be_v under_o a_o relation_n to_o this_o church_n as_o her_o true_a pastor_n and_o under_o the_o obligation_n of_o our_o lord_n command_v to_o officiat_fw-la according_o his_o ground_n be_v the_o necessity_n of_o the_o work_n and_o the_o bitter_a persecution_n of_o christ_n enemy_n both_o which_o ground_n be_v still_o vigent_fw-la in_o relation_n to_o presbyterian_a minister_n as_o be_v say_v for_o what_o he_o add_v of_o christ_n act_v this_o as_o head_n of_o his_o church_n and_o not_o limit_v in_o the_o exercise_n of_o his_o ministry_n as_o ordinary_a minister_n none_o of_o which_o be_v a_o universal_a postor_n it_o be_v very_o insignificant_a here_o for_o 1._o every_o piece_n of_o christ_n ministry_n his_o very_a teach_n and_o teach_v in_o the_o temple_n be_v as_o messenger_n of_o the_o covenant_n who_o be_v to_o come_v unto_o that_o temple_n and_o in_o the_o capacity_n of_o head_n of_o his_o church_n yet_o be_v exemplary_a for_o minister_n duty_n according_a to_o their_o measure_n 2._o he_o dare_v not_o say_v that_o our_o lord_n preach_v after_o the_o manner_n instance_a in_o the_o objection_n of_o his_o doubter_n or_o his_o preach_a while_n flee_v from_o persecutor_n be_v mere_o found_v upon_o this_o ground_n and_o do_v flow_v from_o no_o other_o cause_n and_o principle_n but_o this_o viz._n that_o he_o be_v not_o limit_v in_o the_o way_n and_o exercise_v of_o his_o ministry_n for_o he_o have_v already_o assign_v other_o reason_n of_o this_o viz._n the_o necessity_n of_o the_o work_n and_o his_o persecution_n simple_o consider_v so_o that_o if_o he_o shall_v assert_v this_o his_o 2._o answer_n will_v contradict_v his_o first_o and_o beside_o he_o will_v not_o deny_v but_o that_o such_o as_o be_v not_o head_n of_o the_o church_n and_o who_o be_v in_o a_o ordinary_a peaceful_a state_n thereof_o limit_v in_o the_o exercise_n of_o their_o ministry_n do_v preach_v after_o this_o manner_n for_o the_o officer_n of_o the_o church_n of_o jerusalem_n acts._n 8._o in_o that_o scatter_n and_o persecution_n go_v every_o where_o preach_v the_o gospel_n so_o do_v our_o first_o reformer_n not_o to_o stand_v upon_o that_o moral_a precept_n give_v to_o the_o apostle_n who_o be_v not_o head_n of_o the_o church_n viz._n when_o they_o persecut_v you_o in_o one_o city_n flee_v to_o another_o and_o the_o informer_n will_v not_o say_v that_o they_o be_v not_o to_o carry_v the_o gospel-message_n with_o they_o in_o this_o flight_n now_o that_o which_o those_o who_o be_v not_o head_n of_o the_o church_n but_o minister_n yea_o and_o ordinary_a minister_n have_v do_v the_o parallel_n of_o and_o warrantable_o sure_o that_o christ_n do_v not_o upon_o any_o extraordinary_a ground_n now_o expire_v but_o such_o be_v this_o way_n of_o preach_v ergo_fw-la &c_n &c_n in_o a_o word_n as_o its_o easy_o grant_v that_o ordinary_a minister_n be_v fix_v and_o limit_v to_o their_o charge_n in_o a_o settle_a state_n of_o the_o church_n so_o he_o dare_v not_o deny_v that_o a_o church_n disturb_v persecute_v condition_n will_v warrant_v their_o unfixt_v officiate_a upon_o the_o ground_n already_o give_v and_o he_o shall_v know_v that_o other_o than_o the_o pope_n be_v universal_a pastor_n and_o even_o in_o actu_fw-la exercito_fw-la of_o the_o whole_a church_n viz._n the_o apostle_n as_o himself_o acknowledge_v nor_o can_v he_o deny_v that_o ordinary_a minister_n be_v in_o actu_fw-la promo_fw-la relate_v to_o the_o whole_a church_n as_o her_o minister_n give_v to_o she_o by_o christ_n and_o set_v in_o she_o as_o for_o what_o he_o add_v of_o our_o meeting_n that_o they_o be_v against_o the_o law_n he_o know_v that_o all_o the_o jew_n appoint_v that_o any_o who_o own_a christ_n shall_v be_v excommunicate_a from_o the_o violence_n and_o persecution_n of_o which_o law_n himself_o infer_v our_o lord_n officiate_a in_o the_o manner_n controvert_v and_o he_o can_v easy_o make_v the_o application_n to_o our_o case_n and_o answer_v himself_o the_o doubter_n think_v it_o hard_o to_o be_v hinder_v by_o the_o law_n from_o hear_v the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o other_o part_n of_o worship_n or_o that_o minister_n be_v hinder_v to_o preach_v i●…_n be_v better_a to_o obey_v god_n then_o man_n he_o answer_v 1._o that_o the_o law_n allow_v and_o command_v we_o to_o hear_v the_o word_n preach●…_n in_o our_o own_o congregation_n in_o purity_n and_o defend_v it_o which_o be_v a_o great_a mercy_n and_o that_o its_o better_a to_o worship_n god_n pure_o with_o the_o law_n allowance_n then_o in_o a_o way_n contrary_a to_o it_o ans._n 1._o grant_v that_o the_o law_n do_v allow_v some_o to_o preach_v faithful_o what_o say_v this_o for_o their_o rob_v so_o many_o thousand_o of_o the_o lord_n people_n of_o the_o ministry_n of_o some_o hundred_o of_o faithful_a minister_n will_v a_o piece_n of_o the_o ruler_n duty_n in_o one_o point_n excuse_v their_o sin_n in_o twenty_o other_o and_o loose_v the_o people_n from_o their_o obligation_n to_o duty_n towards_o christ_n ambassador_n this_o be_v new_a divinity_n 2._o the_o law_n allow_v none_o to_o preach_v in_o the_o manner_n he_o plead_v for_o but_o with_o a_o blot●…_n of_o perjury_n in_o take_v on_o the_o prelate_n mark_v and_o comply_v with_o a_o perjurious_a course_n of_o defection_n and_o allow_v none_o to_o deliver_v their_o message_n faithful_o in_o relation_n to_o either_o the_o sin_n or_o duty_n of_o the_o time_n which_o be_v far_o from_o allow_v to_o preach_v in_o purity_n and_o in_o this_o case_n we_o must_v rather_o adhere_v to_o christ_n faithful_a shepherd_n upon_o his_o command_n though_o cross_n to_o man_n law_n then_o follow_v blind_a unfaithful_a guide_n in_o obedience_n thereunto_o and_o this_o upon_o that_o same_o ground_n of_o act_n 4._o 19_o which_o he_o mention_n but_o he_o say_v that_o answer_n of_o the_o apostle_n will_v no_o way_n quadrat_fw-la with_o our_o case_n why_o so_o 1._o because_o the_o apostle_n have_v a_o immediate_a extraordinary_a
indeed_o prove_v that_o the_o magistrate_n may_v civil_o punish_v a_o minister_n for_o crime_n and_o consequent_o cut_v he_o off_o from_o the_o exercise_n of_o his_o ministry_n but_o that_o he_o can_v simple_o and_o immediate_o or_o by_o proper_a elicit_a act_n discharge_v the_o exercise_n thereof_o can_v no_o more_o be_v prove_v from_o this_o instance_n then_o that_o the_o man_n who_o give_v bad_a physic_n or_o hurt_v the_o minister_n person_n and_o eatenus_fw-la stop_v the_o exercise_n of_o his_o ministerial_a office_n have_v a_o authority_n to_o inhibit_v the_o exercise_n of_o his_o ministry_n as_o for_o our_o informer_n restriction_n anent_o the_o king_n inhibit_v a_o minister_n to_o preach_v in_o his_o dominion_n it_o be_v a_o very_a poor_a and_o transparent_a sophistical_a cheat_n for_o no_o man_n ever_o say_v that_o he_o can_v exercise_v any_o magistratical_a power_n upon_o those_o who_o be_v without_o his_o dominion_n whether_o minister_n or_o other_o and_o thus_o shall_v his_o dominion_n in_o god_n providence_n be_v streach_v over_o all_o the_o christian_n church_n he_o have_v authority_n by_o this_o courtdivinity_n to_o silence_v the_o gospel_n sound_v in_o a_o clap_n and_o extinguish_v a_o gospel_n ministry_n when_o he_o please_v and_o then_o this_o man_n will_v do_v well_o to_o ponder_v how_o this_o consist_v with_o the_o nature_n and_o design_n of_o christ_n great_a commission_n to_o his_o first_o ambassador_n his_o apostle_n in_o reference_n to_o the_o gospel_n message_n and_o unto_o all_o minister_n until_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n and_o his_o promise_a presence_n according_o as_o also_o whether_o the_o apostle_n and_o ordinary_a minister_n afterward_o do_v warrantable_o counteract_v the_o magistrate_n opposition_n in_o this_o exercise_n of_o their_o ministry_n and_o what_o our_o lord_n answer_v will_v have_v be_v in_o case_n such_o a_o objection_n anent_o prince_n discharge_v the_o exercise_n of_o their_o ministry_n have_v be_v offer_v by_o the_o apostle_n at_o the_o first_o give_v out_o and_o seal_n of_o their_o great_a patent_n and_o commission_n to_o preach_v to_o all_o nation_n and_o whether_o our_o lord_n will_v have_v tell_v they_o that_o their_o commission_n do_v not_o bind_v in_o that_o case_n the_o informer_n be_v afraid_a to_o set_v his_o foot_n on_o such_o slippery_a ground_n as_o to_o assert_v that_o the_o king_n can_v depose_v absolute_o but_o yet_o aver_v that_o he_o can_v restrain_v the_o actual_a exercise_n of_o the_o ministerial_a office_n and_o sure_o if_o this_o be_v grant_v in_o that_o extent_n he_o plead_v for_o it_o will_v abundant_o secure_v self-seeking_a politician_n from_o the_o trouble_n of_o a_o faithful_a gospel-ministry_n &_o they_o will_v be_v content_a to_o part_v with_o this_o nicety_n of_o a_o simple_a depose_n but_o if_o in_o the_o judgement_n even_o of_o some_o of_o his_o rabbi_n who_o i_o can_v name_v the_o most_o formal_a ecclesiastical_a censure_n do_v amount_v to_o no_o more_o than_o this_o legal_a restraint_n of_o the_o exercise_n he_o do_v but_o pityful_o resarciat_fw-la his_o lapse_n and_o mend_v the_o matter_n by_o this_o whimsy_n as_o for_o what_o he_o add_v of_o beza_n letter_n to_o the_o nonconformist_n in_o england_n not_o to_o exercise_v their_o ministry_n against_o the_o queen_n authority_n and_o the_o bishop_n the_o often_o mention_a difference_n betwixt_o the_o then_o state_n of_o that_o church_n and_o our_o present_a condition_n do_v quite_o invalidat_fw-la his_o proof_n since_o certain_o in_o some_o case_n the_o counteracting_a the_o prince_n command_v as_o to_o the_o exercise_n of_o the_o ministry_n require_v a_o very_a cautious_a consideration_n but_o have_v our_o case_n in_o its_o present_a circumstance_n and_o latitude_n as_o above_o delineat_a be_v propound_v to_o beza_n touch_v the_o overturning_a the_o reformation_n of_o this_o church_n so_o full_o settle_v by_o civil_a and_o ecclesiastic_a authority_n and_o confirm_v by_o oath_n of_o all_o rank_n by_o prelate_n and_o their_o adherent_n eject_v all_o faithful_a minister_n who_o will_v not_o be_v subject_a to_o that_o course_n sure_a beza_n who_o as_o we_o hear_v request_v john_n knox_n never_o to_o let_v prelacy_n be_v introduce_v into_o scotland_n and_o all_o faithful_a minister_n to_o contend_v against_o it_o after_o it_o be_v cast_v out_o will_v have_v judge_v minister_n oblige_v in_o this_o our_o case_n especial_o after_o prelacy_n be_v thus_o vow_v against_o to_o keep_v their_o possession_n to_o preach_v the_o gospel_n and_o testify_v against_o such_o a_o wicked_a course_n as_o well_o as_o it_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o our_o first_o reformer_n to_o preach_v against_o the_o will_n of_o the_o then_o bishop_n and_o persecuter_n beside_o it_o be_v the_o doctrine_n and_o principle_n of_o our_o church_n that_o neither_o the_o magistrate_n nor_o prelate_n censure_n can_v loose_v a_o minister_n from_o the_o exercise_n of_o his_o ministry_n which_o be_v above_o clear_v so_o that_o our_o informer_n great_a diana_n which_o he_o be_v all_o this_o time_n declaim_v for_o viz._n the_o impose_v of_o a_o absolute_a silence_n upon_o the_o true_a pastor_n of_o this_o church_n that_o conformist_n only_o may_v be_v hear_v and_o own_v do_v so_o stoop_v and_o bow_v down_o that_o the_o underproping_n of_o his_o slender_a artifice_n and_o poor_a mean_a plead_n can_v prevent_v its_o precipice_n and_o ruin_n chap._n vi_o the_o nature_n of_o presbyterian_a minister_n relation_n to_o this_o church_n and_o their_o call_n to_o officiat_fw-la therein_o vindicate_v from_o the_o informer_n simple_a cavil_v mr_n baxter_n rule_n for_o the_o cure_n of_o church-division_n impertinent_o allege_v by_o he_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o jus_o divinum_fw-la minist_n anglic._n and_o of_o mr_n rutherfoord_n in_o his_o due_a right_n of_o presbytery_n anent_o unwarrantable_a separation_n insufficient_a to_o bear_v the_o weight_n of_o his_o conclusion_n the_o appearance_n of_o our_o lord_n ambassador_n in_o his_o message_n and_o for_o promote_a his_o interest_n have_v be_v much_o oppose_v by_o satan_n in_o very_o various_a method_n and_o versatile_a disguise_n in_o all_o age_n but_o that_o presbyterian_a minister_n of_o a_o pure_a apostolic_a presbyterian_a church_n shall_v be_v oppose_v in_o the_o exercise_n of_o their_o holy_a function_n and_o ministry_n receive_v from_o christ_n and_o this_o exercise_n impugn_a from_o pretend_a scripture_n ground_n and_o presbyterian_a principle_n may_v seem_v strange_a if_o these_o latter_a day_n have_v not_o produce_v many_o such_o prodigy_n of_o error_n and_o wickedness_n the_o progress_n of_o this_o personat_fw-la doubt-resolv_a his_o impugnation_n will_v discover_v so_o much_o which_o we_o now_o proceed_v to_o examine_v this_o informer_n next_o alleage_n that_o minister_n among_o we_o make_v themselves_o minister_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n and_o the_o doubter_n allege_v that_o a_o minister_n be_v a_o minister_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n he_o answer_n from_o mr_n rutherfoord_n due_a right_n of_o presb._n page_n 204._o that_o though_o a_o minister_n be_v a_o minister_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n yet_o not_o a_o catholic_n pastor_n of_o it_o that_o by_o ordination_n and_o his_o call_n he_o be_v make_v pastor_n and_o by_o election_n he_o be_v restrict_v to_o be_v ordinary_o the_o pastor_n of_o his_o flock_n and_o that_o mr_n durham_n on_o rev._n page_n 106_o 107._o think_v there_o be_v odds_o betwixt_o be_v a_o minister_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n and_o a_o catholic_n minister_n of_o it_o as_o the_o apostle_n be_v and_o the_o pope_n pretend_v viz._n to_o have_v immediate_a access_n for_o the_o exercise_n in_o all_o place_n that_o ●…ho_fw-la actu_fw-la prime_a they_o have_v a_o commission_n to_o ●…e_v minister_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n yet_o actu_fw-la secund●…_n they_o be_v peculiar_o delegated_a to_o such_o and_o such_o post_n but_o we_o have_v make_v ourselves_o minister_n of_o all_o the_o congregation_n of_o the_o country_n i_o answer_v this_o doctrine_n cross_v not_o our_o principle_n nor_o practice_n in_o the_o least_o for_o first_o when_o we_o assert_v that_o a_o minister_n be_v by_o election_n restrict_v to_o be_v ordinary_o the_o pastor_n of_o a_o flock_n and_o especial_o delegat_v and_o fix_v to_o such_o a_o post_n &_o particular_a watchtower_n it_o be_v not_o so_o to_o be_v understand_v as_o if_o there_o can_v be_v nolawful_a exercise_n of_o his_o ministry_n elsewhere_o for_o first_o this_o be_v flat_a independency_n etc._n etc._n 2._o all_o save_o they_o of_o this_o persuasion_n grant_v that_o the_o minister_n receive_v no_o new_a authority_n as_o to_o his_o ministerial_a act_n and_o officiate_a in_o other_o place_n but_o a_o new_a application_n only_o hence_o in_o the_o 2d_o place_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o the_o church_n her_o ordinary_a settle_a state_n under_o a_o settle_a ministry_n but_o when_o there_o be_v a_o destroy_a enemy_n within_o her_o bosom_n waste_v she_o and_o the_o faithful_a ministry_n be_v put_v from_o their_o
thing_n in_o their_o case_n consider_v it_o will_v be_v a_o hard_a task_n to_o produce_v these_o canon_n strike_v against_o that_o practice_n as_o it_o stand_v circumstantiat_fw-la consider_v their_o schismatic_a withstand_v the_o reformation_n of_o this_o church_n their_o arminian_n principle_n and_o defend_v popish_a ceremony_n which_o error_n they_o have_v open_o vent_v and_o obstinate_o maintain_v his_o next_o charge_n of_o ordain_v other_o to_o perpetuat_fw-la our_o schism_n be_v a_o manifest_a calumny_n this_o true_a organic_n church_n be_v by_o this_o practice_n only_o propagate_a a_o lawful_a pure_a ministry_n in_o opposition_n to_o their_o destroy_n schismatic_a course_n the_o bless_a fruit_n whereof_o and_o its_o seal_n upon_o the_o heart_n of_o the_o people_n of_o god_n have_v be_v conspicuous_a and_o we_o hope_v yet_o further_o will_n and_o no_o less_o gross_a be_v that_o calumny_n which_o follow_v anent_o our_o great_a mix_a communion_n and_o admission_n of_o ignorant_a vicious_a person_n unto_o they_o who_o he_o say_v by_o our_o way_n can_v be_v keep_v back_o there_o be_v none_o admit_v at_o any_o season_n of_o this_o nature_n which_o have_v be_v very_o rare_a but_o upon_o sufficient_a testimony_n from_o faithful_a minister_n or_o eldership_n but_o be_v he_o not_o ashamed_a to_o object_v this_o to_o we_o whereof_o his_o party_n be_v so_o notorious_o guilty_a who_o be_v know_v to_o admit_v yea_o call_v promiscuous_o to_o fill_v their_o empty_a table_n which_o tender_a soul_n dare_v not_o approach_v unto_o both_o gross_a ignorant_o and_o notorious_o profane_a to_o the_o shame_n and_o scandal_n of_o religion_n and_o the_o contempt_n of_o that_o holy_a ordinance_n our_o persuade_v people_n not_o to_o own_o conformist_n as_o the_o minister_n of_o this_o church_n we_o hope_v do_v now_o appear_v better_o ground_v then_o all_o this_o informer_n persuasive_n to_o the_o contrary_n and_o that_o we_o have_v be_v in_o any_o measure_n successful_a in_o this_o speak_v out_o god_n purpose_v not_o to_o leave_v whole_o our_o marry_a land_n for_o that_o which_o he_o cite_v out_o of_o baxter_n preface_n to_o the_o cure_n of_o church_n division_n anent_o the_o odiousness_n of_o sacrifice_n present_v to_o god_n without_o love_n and_o reconciliation_n to_o brethren_n and_o of_o make_v a_o people_n communion_n in_o worship_n the_o badge_n and_o mean_n of_o uncharitablness_n and_o division_n we_o th●…nk_v reconciliation_n and_o unionin_n the_o lord_n needful_a to_o acceptable_a worship_n but_o a_o association_n with_o scandalous_a schismatic_n and_o backslider_n in_o their_o wickedness_n we_o think_v be_v no_o less_o dangerous_a and_o obstructive_a to_o real_a fellowship_n with_o god_n in_o duty_n especial_o since_o god_n press_v our_o come_n out_o from_o among_o such_o and_o our_o be_v separat_fw-la from_o the_o contagion_n of_o their_o sin_n with_o this_o motive_n that_o he_o will_v receive_v we_o and_o as_o there_o be_v a_o holy_a brotherhood_n which_o we_o must_v associate_v with_o in_o order_n to_o communion_n with_o god_n so_o there_o be_v a_o congregation_n of_o evil_a doer_n which_o we_o must_v hate_v yea_o we_o have_v david_n precedency_n as_o be_v before_o observe_v to_o hate_v they_o with_o perfect_a hatred_n and_o count_v they_o our_o enemy_n but_o who_o can_v sufficient_o admire_v these_o man_n talk_n of_o unity_n and_o love_n who_o have_v first_o break_v and_o divide_v this_o poor_a church_n have_v be_v these_o so_o many_o year_n persecute_v to_o the_o death_n yea_o sweeming_a in_o the_o blood_n of_o the_o faithful_a minister_n and_o professor_n thereof_o because_o hey_n dare_v not_o join_v to_o their_o way_n and_o conform_v to_o their_o suppose_a trifle_n and_o indifferency_n sure_o prelacy_n be_v the_o grand_a idol_n of_o jealousy_n provoke_v god_n against_o we_o and_o the_o fire_n which_o have_v kindle_v all_o our_o combustion_n and_o have_v open_v the_o vein_n of_o the_o lord_n servant_n and_o people_n to_o bleed_v for_o many_o year_n occasion_v such_o horrid_a dispersion_n and_o unheard_a of_o oppression_n 〈◊〉_d the_o lord_n church_n and_o people_n in_o our_o land_n with_o what_o f●…ces_n can_v these_o upholder_n of_o this_o course_n look_v up_o to_o the_o god_n of_o love_n and_o peace_n and_o how_o can_v they_o lift_v up_o suc●…_n bloody_a wrathful_a hand_n to_o he_o but_o now_o his_o poor_a half_n proselyte_v doubter_n confess_v that_o there_o be_v much_o truth_n in_o what_o he_o have_v hear_v from_o this_o sound_a informer_n forsooth_o and_o take_v leave_v with_o a_o profess_a resolution_n to_o reflect_v upon_o what_o he_o have_v hear_v from_o he_o whereupon_o he_o dismiss_v he_o with_o some_o of_o his_o heal_a advice_n preface_v with_o a_o admonition_n to_o seek_v illumination_n from_o god_n but_o have_v this_o man_n be_v serious_a in_o seek_v this_o from_o god_n he_o have_v not_o vent_v in_o these_o trill_a dialogue_n such_o weak_a notion_n and_o reproach_n against_o god_n truth_n and_o people_n but_o since_o his_o doubter_n return_v he_o no_o answer_n thereunto_o i_o shall_v make_v up_o his_o want_n and_o short_o offer_v my_o thought_n upon_o they_o his_o first_o advice_n be_v not_o to_o be_v too_o confident_a of_o our_o own_o opinion_n as_o undoubted_o right_a but_o consider_v what_o he_o have_v say_v in_o his_o three_o conference_n ans._n if_o it_o be_v truth_n which_o we_o hold_v sure_o we_o most_o hold_v it_o by_o faith_n in_o a_o pure_a conscience_n and_o not_o be_v waver_v and_o ●…ossed_a child_n we_o acknowledge_v not_o the_o cartesian_a principle_n and_o the_o popish_a doubt_a way_n as_o find_v divinity_n and_o a_o confidence_n of_o truth_n be_v far_o from_o a_o self_n confidence_n as_o for_o what_o be_v offer_v in_o his_o three_o dialogue_n i_o hope_v it_o be_v sufficient_o antidote_v by_o what_o be_v say_v above_o so_o that_o it_o need_v not_o in_o the_o least_o demur_v our_o persuasion_n 2._o he_o will_v not_o have_v we_o think_v the_o matter_n of_o difference_n to_o be_v the_o substantial_o of_o relegion_n since_o person_n of_o both_o persuasion_n may_v keep_v love_n and_o fellowship_n without_o rent_v the_o church_n and_o neglect_v ordinance_n because_o great_a difference_n have_v be_v and_o communion_n not_o break_v thereby_o ans._n if_o these_o matter_n controvert_v be_v not_o substantial_o why_o then_o have_v they_o make_v such_o a_o substantial_a bloody_a contest_v for_o they_o ●…anquam_fw-la pro_fw-la aris_fw-la &_o focis_fw-la for_o so_o many_o year_n and_o if_o communion_n must_v not_o be_v break_v in_o a_o church_n upon_o this_o account_n why_o have_v they_o rend_v and_o overturn_v our_o church_n and_o persecute_v away_o so_o many_o godly_a minister_n and_o professor_n for_o these_o thing_n deny_v all_o fellowship_n with_o they_o in_o their_o worship_n for_o adhere_v to_o their_o principle_n and_o disow_v this_o course_n of_o conformity_n have_v prelatist_n suffer_v presbyterian_a minister_n and_o professor_n to_o stand_v as_o they_o be_v in_o this_o church_n to_o enjoy_v their_o principle_n and_o to_o follow_v their_o respective_a duty_n according_a to_o their_o station_n faithful_a minister_n to_o preach_v and_o god_n people_n to_o enjoy_v the_o fruit_n of_o their_o ministry_n he_o may_v with_o some_o colour_n have_v pretend_v to_o this_o desire_n of_o union_n and_o fellowship_n but_o since_o prelatist_n have_v cast_v they_o out_o and_o do_v so_o cruel_o persecute_v they_o for_o adhere_v to_o their_o principle_n and_o own_v these_o duty_n this_o pretence_n be_v nothing_o but_o deceitful_a hypocrisy_n he_o add_v that_o the_o difference_n be_v but_o a_o matter_n of_o government_n and_o if_o we_o separat_fw-la for_o this_o we_o will_v have_v separate_a from_o all_o church_n since_o christianity_n begin_v and_o if_o christ_n hold_v no_o comunion_n with_o a_o church_n where_o prelacy_n be_v he_o have_v then_o seldom_o have_v a_o church_n and_o have_v be_v for_o many_o year_n a_o head_n without_o member_n ans._n this_o be_v nothing_o but_o a_o renew_a repetition_n of_o groundless_a assertion_n for_o how_o prove_v he_o that_o our_o plea_n be_v a_o matter_n of_o government_n only_o sure_o their_o course_n strike_v at_o the_o whole_a of_o our_o reformation_n as_o have_v be_v clear_v again_o how_o prove_v he_o that_o we_o will_v have_v separate_a upon_o this_o ground_n from_o the_o church_n for_o so_o long_a a_o time_n though_o it_o be_v grant_v that_o our_o plea_n be_v only_o a_o matter_n of_o government_n since_o he_o have_v not_o yet_o produce_v instance_n of_o such_o a_o prelacy_n as_o we_o have_v in_o any_o church_n beside_o since_o the_o informer_n plead_v for_o prelacy_n upon_o pretend_a apostolical_a precept_n and_o practice_n and_o yet_o do_v here_o vilify_v it_o unto_o a_o mere_a punctilio_fw-la and_o make_v it_o such_o a_o sorry_a business_n as_o person_n may_v come_v and_o go_v upon_o it_o at_o their_o pleasure_n we_o may_v easy_o discover_v what_o nimble_a sophister_n and_o
backslide_v in_o this_o case_n and_o especial_o the_o join_n to_o a_o backslide_a party_n who_o be_v not_o the_o true_a church_n be_v much_o different_a from_o adherence_n to_o a_o church_n though_o backslidden_a it_o be_v a_o far_o different_a case_n not_o to_o leave_v the_o communion_n of_o a_o church_n because_o of_o some_o corruption_n and_o not_o to_o join_v with_o a_o unsound_a party_n of_o a_o church_n draw_v back_o from_o her_o reformation_n so_o that_o upon_o a_o due_a consideration_n of_o the_o matter_n of_o fact_n and_o presbyterian_a principle_n its_o evident_a that_o these_o testimony_n do_v level_v against_o conformist_n 2._o it_o be_v a_o far_o different_a case_n to_o own_o the_o ministry_n of_o a_o corrupt_a church_n wherein_o prelacy_n be_v universal_o own_a and_o wherein_o there_o have_v be_v no_o other_o way_n of_o entry_n into_o the_o ministry_n for_o many_o generation_n but_o by_o prelacy_n and_o to_o own_o a_o party_n of_o schismatic_a intruder_n introduce_v prelacy_n over_o the_o belly_n of_o a_o presbyterian_a church_n and_o shut_v out_o her_o faithful_a mininistry_n sure_o these_o intruder_n be_v in_o this_o case_n the_o brownist_n 3._o it_o be_v a_o far_o different_a case_n to_o submit_v to_o a_o ministry_n mere_o episcopal_a and_o to_o keep_v the_o worship_n in_o a_o church_n long_o under_o this_o government_n and_o to_o submit_v to_o a_o episcopal_a erastian_n ministry_n and_o a_o church_n government_n fundamental_o corrupt_a derive_v all_o its_o power_n from_o a_o antichristian_a supremacy_n and_o mere_a civil_a papacy_n after_o it_o have_v be_v eminent_o and_o universal_o disow_v by_o that_o church_n and_o vow_v against_o especial_o when_o a_o backslide_a party_n only_o do_v thus_o usurp_v over_o the_o sound_a ministry_n and_o have_v eject_v they_o and_o this_o erastian_n abomination_n be_v set_v up_o to_o raze_v this_o true_a spiritual_a government_n of_o the_o church_n once_o universal_o settle_v and_o own_a 4._o it_o be_v a_o far_o different_a case_n to_o submit_v to_o a_o episcopal_a ministry_n so_o far_o as_o pure_a while_o episcopacy_n be_v universal_o own_v and_o no_o obligation_n be_v upon_o any_o to_o disowne_v it_o further_o than_o its_o own_o corruption_n in_o that_o case_n will_v amount_v to_o and_o infer_v and_o to_o own_o and_o submit_v to_o a_o episcopal_a erastian_n government_n introduce_v by_o a_o innovate_a party_n into_o a_o presbyterian_a church_n against_o her_o stand_a act_n solemn_a oath_n and_o vow_n universal_o take_v on_o by_o that_o church_n against_o the_o same_o while_o a_o faithful_a ministry_n and_o the_o great_a part_n of_o the_o people_n be_v in_o conscience_n of_o their_o vow_n contend_v against_o it_o sure_o this_o superinduce_v obligation_n require_v a_o high_a degree_n of_o zeal_n against_o that_o defection_n and_o render_v it_o the_o more_o heinous_a the_o high_a place_n permit_v to_o david_n and_o solomon_n before_o the_o temple_n be_v build_v be_v censure_v in_o after_o time_n great_a light_n and_o obligation_n do_v in_o this_o case_n cast_v the_o balance_n these_o consideration_n do_v clear_o repel_v any_o argument_n which_o he_o will_v draw_v from_o his_o citation_n to_o our_o case_n but_o now_o to_o view_v they_o the_o english_a presbyterian_o in_o that_o piece_n do_v first_o assert_v page_n 10._o that_o all_o in_o the_o same_o bound_n most_o be_v under_o the_o care_n of_o the_o same_o minister_n and_o that_o these_o limit_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v brangle_v ans._n this_o shall_v be_v easy_o accord_v give_v we_o our_o beautiful_a church-order_n and_o a_o lawful_o call_v ministry_n and_o this_o parochial_a order_n shall_v be_v observe_v and_o obey_v 2._o page_n 11._o a_o man_n under_o a_o wicked_a or_o heretical_a minister_n must_v remove_v his_o habitation_n rather_o than_o brangle_v parochial_a order_n ans_fw-fr than_o it_o follow_v in_o their_o principle_n that_o when_o the_o order_n and_o union_n of_o a_o reform_a church_n be_v already_o brangle_v by_o innovate_a schismatic_n who_o wickedness_n and_o error_n be_v palpable_a man_n may_v attend_v a_o more_o pure_a ministry_n without_o schism_n by_o clear_a consequence_n sure_o he_o be_v a_o loser_n by_o this_o 3_o page_n 12._o to_o appoint_v elder_n in_o every_o church_n and_o every_o city_n be_v all_o one_o and_o convert_v in_o the_o city_n must_v join_v with_o the_o congregation_n in_o churchfellowship_n ans._n but_o what_o if_o a_o party_n in_o the_o city_n call_v themselves_o the_o church_n shut_v out_o the_o true_a minister_n and_o bring_v in_o one_o of_o their_o own_o must_v not_o the_o true_a convert_v own_o their_o first_o minister_n and_o oppose_v these_o innovator_n sure_o this_o testimony_n rebound_v another_o blow_n upon_o our_o mis_fw-fr informer_n 4._o page_n 25._o evil_a man_n defacto_fw-la have_v be_v officer_n hophni_n and_o phineas_n scribe_n and_o pharisee_n who_o ministerial_a act_n be_v not_o null_a and_o christ_n commission_n authorize_v judas_n ans._n this_o will_n as_o much_o plead_v for_o own_v presbyterian_a minister_n as_o conformist_n and_o if_o he_o allege_v that_o they_o be_v disorderly_a schismatical_a etc._n etc._n and_o therefore_o must_v not_o be_v own_v in_o this_o case_n i_o answer_v ●…he_n must_v prove_v this_o which_o he_o have_v not_o yet_o do_v 2._o he_o must_v acknowledge_v that_o the_o grant_v that_o the_o ministerial_a act_n of_o church-officer_n be_v not_o null_a by_o their_o sin_n will_v not_o plead_v for_o hear_v minister_n in_o every_o case_n until_o aliunde_fw-la and_o from_o other_o ground_n our_o obligation_n to_o own_o such_o man_n as_o our_o minister_n hic_fw-la &_o nunc_fw-la be_v make_v good_a which_o he_o have_v not_o yet_o do_v as_o to_o curate_n neither_o hophni_n or_o phineas_n nor_o the_o scribe_n and_o pharisee_n be_v root_a out_o the_o faithful_a ministry_n of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o jew_n who_o will_v not_o concur_v in_o a_o course_n of_o defection_n after_o they_o have_v lay_v down_o a_o course_n to_o overturn_v the_o ordinance_n which_o be_v the_o case_n of_o conformist_n in_o relation_n to_o we_o as_o be_v evident_a again_o state_n the_o question_n so_o that_o hophni_n and_o phineas_n and_o the_o pharisee_n ministry_n can_v not_o be_v own_v without_o partake_v in_o their_o sin_n than_o this_o man_n must_v needs_o grant_v that_o god_n people_n be_v oblige_v to_o disowne_v they_o and_o have_v disow_v they_o now_o we_o have_v prove_v this_o to_o be_v our_o case_n as_o to_o the_o own_n of_o conformist_n 5._o page_n 42_o 43._o israel_n be_v call_v the_o people_n of_o the_o lord_n even_o after_o the_o calf_n be_v set_v up_o at_o dan_n and_o bethel_n and_o cajaphas_n be_v own_a as_o high_a priest_n though_o they_o come_v to_o the_o office_n by_o bribry_n and_o faction_n and_o the_o highpriest_n have_v a_o hand_n in_o crucify_a christ._n ans._n the_o same_o reply_n and_o retortion_n recur_v as_o former_o what_o will_v he_o say_v if_o we_o plead_v this_o for_o presbyterian_a minister_n who_o he_o will_v not_o call_v worse_o than_o these_o mention_v nor_o will_v he_o say_v that_o our_o presbyterian_a church_n be_v worse_a than_o that_o church_n so_o that_o he_o must_v grant_v this_o will_v not_o reach_v his_o conclusion_n till_o more_o be_v suppose_v and_o prove_v in_o this_o point_n again_o though_o god_n in_o his_o sovereign_a dispensation_n have_v not_o as_o yet_o cast_v off_o the_o ten_o tribe_n have_v a_o faithful_a remnant_n among_o they_o yet_o i_o hope_v he_o will_v not_o from_o this_o plead_v for_o own_v the_o calf_n or_o the_o priest_n ministry_n who_o jeroboam_n have_v obtrude_v and_o set_v up_o contrary_a to_o god_n institution_n and_o for_o keep_v up_o that_o woeful_a breach_n in_o god_n worship_n and_o in_o israel_n which_o be_v thereby_o promote_v and_o this_o be_v a_o fit_a emblem_n of_o their_o innovate_a prelatic_a ministry_n beside_o that_o the_o high_a priest_n be_v man_n in_o a_o considerable_a measure_n decider_n and_o interpreter_n of_o the_o civil_a law_n and_o may_v in_o that_o respect_n be_v own_v but_o however_o it_o be_v as_o we_o have_v say_v bid_v argue_v from_o the_o comport_v with_o corruption_n in_o that_o old_a dispensation_n and_o ministry_n especial_o when_o draw_v near_o a_o end_n to_o the_o receive_n of_o abjure_a corruption_n into_o a_o church_n which_o have_v be_v rid_v of_o they_o and_o from_o a_o non-separating_a in_o the_o first_o case_n to_o conclude_v against_o a_o non-union_n or_o non_fw-la compliance_n in_o the_o second_o and_o thus_o neither_o will_n paul_n carriage_n towards_o the_o high_a priest_n act_v 23._o plead_v for_o adhere_v to_o curate_n upon_o the_o same_o ground_n for_o he_o will_v not_o say_v that_o paul_n understand_v not_o his_o office_n in_o a_o spiritual_a sense_n to_o be_v now_o expire_v and_o that_o he_o be_v not_o to_o be_v own_v as_o a_o teacher_n who_o be_v every_o way_n destitute_a of_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o
gospel_n and_o a_o enemy_n unto_o it_o jackson_n think_v with_o seural_a other_o that_o paul_n say_v i_o know_v not_o that_o he_o be_v the_o high_a priest_n etc._n etc._n ironical_o it_o be_v very_o improbable_a that_o paul_n know_v not_o the_o high_a priest_n and_o suppose_v it_o be_v so_o he_o know_v he_o to_o be_v a_o ruler_n as_o his_o own_o word_n discover_v so_o that_o it_o be_v no_o excuse_n to_o say_v he_o know_v not_o the_o high_a priest_n because_o as_o a_o judge_n it_o be_v against_o the_o law_n to_o revile_v he_o therefore_o say_v jackson_n upon_o exod._n 22._o 28._o though_o they_o understand_v paul_n as_o excuse_v himself_o yet_o he_o speak_v by_o way_n of_o derision_n as_o disdain_v he_o shall_v be_v account_v god_n highpriest_n who_o carry_v so_o which_o say_v he_o be_v the_o more_o probable_a when_o it_o be_v consider_v how_o far_o he_o be_v from_o have_v any_o true_a right_n to_o that_o place_n and_o power_n to_o which_o he_o pretend_v when_o christ_n have_v abolish_v the_o legal_a priest_n hood_n calvine_n on_o that_o place_n of_o the_o act_n say_v it_o be_v not_o credible_a that_o paul-gave_a he_o his_o wont_a honour_n cum_fw-la abolita_fw-la esset_fw-la adventu_fw-la christi_fw-la sacerdotij_fw-la majestas_fw-la &_o secuta_fw-la turpis_fw-la prophanatio_fw-la paulum_fw-la quasi_fw-la integra_fw-la vigeret_fw-la solito_fw-la honore_fw-la prosecutum_fw-la fuisse_fw-la qui_fw-la tunc_fw-la sub_fw-la pontificum_fw-la titulo_fw-la nullo_n jure_fw-la dominabantur_fw-la after_o the_o majesty_n of_o the_o priest_n hood_n be_v abolish_v by_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n and_o vile_a profanity_n attend_v it_o that_o paul_n as_o if_o the_o priesthood_n have_v be_v stand_v entire_a will_v have_v allow_v the_o wont_a honour_n to_o such_o who_o under_o the_o title_n of_o priest_n be_v govern_v without_o any_o right_a or_o just_a title_n and_o have_v object_v to_o himself_o that_o we_o must_v not_o contemn_v civil_a magistrate_n in_o his_o answer_n he_o put_v a_o difference_n betwixt_o civil_a mahistrat_n and_o church_n ruler_n inter_fw-la civiles_fw-la magistratus_fw-la say_v he_o &_o ecclesiae_fw-la praesules_fw-la aliquid_fw-la est_fw-la discrimenus_fw-la there_o be_v a_o difference_n betwixt_o civil_a magistrate_n and_o church_n officer_n though_o the_o administration_n of_o civil_a ruler_n be_v perverse_a and_o confuse_a yet_o he_o tell_v we_o the_o lord_n will_v have_v subjection_n remain_v entire_a sed_fw-la ubi_fw-la spiritual_fw-la regimen_fw-la degenerate_a sol●…untur_fw-la piorum_fw-la conscientiae_fw-la ne_fw-la injustae_fw-la dominationi_fw-la pareant_fw-la etc._n etc._n spiritual_a government_n be_v degenerate_a the_o conscience_n o●…_n the_o faithful_a be_v loose_v from_o obedience_n to_o a_o unjus●…_n domination_n but_o our_o informer_n will_v say_v that_o i_o thu●…_n set_v the_o author_n of_o jus_o divinum_fw-la minist_n anglic_a by_o the_o ear●…_n with_o calvin_n and_o jackson_n as_o to_o the_o sense_n of_o this_o place_n i_o answer_v they_o do_v not_o peremptorly_a and_o positive_o assert_v that_o paul_n acknowledge_v he_o as_o high_a priest_n bu●…_n only_o that_o many_o think_v he_o do_v 2._o hence_o the_o weight_n of_o their_o conclusion_n subjoin_v viz._n that_o corruption_n cleave_v to_o god_n ordinance_n null_a they_o not_o be_v not_o lay_v upon_o this_o sole_o nor_o positiu_o at_o all_o even_o as_o a_o partial_a but_o only_o as_o a_o probable_a ground_n and_o the_o conclusion_n itself_o when_o admit_v will_v never_o reach_v his_o design_n as_o be_v above_o clear_v again_o admit_v that_o paul_n acknowledge_v his_o providential_a title_n or_o jus_o in_o re_fw-mi as_o to_o a_o civil_a office_n and_o administration_n at_o that_o time_n as_o it_o may_v well_o have_v its_o own_o weight_n in_o reference_n to_o the_o premise_a conclusion_n civil_a rule_n as_o such_o be_v god_n ordinance_n which_o be_v not_o make_v null_a by_o corruption_n so_o upon_o the_o the_o difference_n of_o civil_a from_o sacred_a rule_n this_o concession_n will_v not_o legitimat_fw-la or_o infer_v a_o acknowledgement_n of_o the_o spiritual_a part_n of_o his_o administration_n thus_o we_o have_v see_v how_o well_o our_o informer_n have_v acquit_v himself_o in_o his_o argue_v from_o the_o english_a presbyterian_o let_v we_o next_o consider_v how_o he_o reason_n from_o mr_n rutherfoord_n in_o that_o piece_n forecited_a if_o at_o least_o we_o may_v call_v that_o which_o he_o here_o offer_v a_o formal_a reason_n since_o he_o offer_v not_o as_o i_o say_v any_o argument_n from_o these_o citation_n but_o sure_o we_o will_v find_v that_o these_o passage_n will_v burn_v his_o finger_n in_o that_o piece_n scil_n due_a right_n of_o presb_n page_n 220._o to_o 256._o there_o be_v several_a passage_n which_o this_o man_n take_v hold_v of_o as_o 1._o he_o assert_v that_o separation_n from_o a_o true_a church_n where_o the_o orthodox_n word_n be_v preach_v and_o sacrament_n due_o administrat_fw-la be_v unlawful_a and_o vindicat_o 2_o cor._n 6._o ans._n this_o in_o mr_n rutherfoord_v sense_n will_v plead_v more_o for_o the_o presbyterian_a ministry_n &_o professor_n then_o for_o conformist_n who_o he_o will_v not_o say_v that_o mr_n rutherfoord_n will_v look_v upon_o as_o our_o church_n in_o such_o a_o case_n as_o this_o since_o as_o we_o hear_v he_o hold_v that_o in_o case_n of_o such_o a_o breach_n as_o we_o have_v now_o the_o pure_a church_n remain_v with_o the_o small_a steadfast_a number_n and_o that_o the_o backslider_n from_o truth_n and_o purity_n though_o the_o ●…reater_a number_n yet_o real_o be_v the_o schismatic_n and_o ●…n_o this_o sense_n we_o be_v to_o understand_v he_o when_o he_o say_v that_o this_o separation_n as_o to_o worship_v will_v not_o infer_v a_o absolute_a separation_n and_o his_o allow_a non-union_n where_o there_o be_v not_o sufficient_a cause_n of_o separation_n in_o the_o case_n of_o pure_a to_o be_v join_v with_o and_o his_o admit_v a_o partial_a separation_n because_o of_o a_o partial_a corruption_n of_o ordinance_n peaceable_a plea_n page_n 121._o will_n much_o more_o plead_v for_o a_o total_a non-union_n in_o this_o our_o case_n and_o i_o dare_v appeal_v this_o informer_n if_o mr_n rutherfoord_v word_n peaceable_a plea_n page_n 122._o do_v not_o suit_n our_o case_n and_o express_v such_o a_o sense_n thereof_o as_o we_o have_v explaind_v and_o if_o he_o will_v not_o have_v apply_v that_o which_o follow_v unto_o our_o present_a prelatic_a party_n have_v he_o see_v our_o church_n in_o this_o posture_n and_o in_o her_o present_a circumstance_n viz._n we_o separate_v not_o from_o a_o true_a church_n or_o her_o lawful_a pastor_n when_o we_o separat_fw-la from_o hireling_n and_o idolshepherd_n who_o will_v not_o go_v before_o we_o and_o whether_o he_o will_v not_o have_v think_v and_o call_v conformist_n so_o thus_o page_n 148._o concl_n 6._o he_o tell_v we_o we_o may_v separat_fw-la from_o the_o worship_n when_o we_o separate_v not_o from_o the_o church_n so_o that_o its_o evident_a that_o in_o mr_n rutherfoord_v sense_n we_o separate_v not_o from_o the_o church_n of_o scotland_n nor_o her_o worship_n while_o withdraw_v from_o curate_n in_o attend_v the_o ministry_n of_o christ_n faithful_a ambassador_n in_o the_o next_o place_n this_o informer_n present_v to_o we_o these_o passage_n further_o in_o that_o piece_n mention_v viz._n page_n 233._o the_o personal_a fault_n of_o other_o be_v not_o sufficient_a ground_n for_o separation_n that_o the_o disciple_n think_v not_o the_o society_n unclean_a for_o judas_n sin_n though_o they_o know_v one_o of_o they_o have_v a_o devil_n again_o page_n 250._o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o separat_fw-la from_o the_o pharisee_n preach_v truth_n page_n 253._o the_o godly_a separate_a no●…_n from_o the_o church_n when_o the_o altar_n of_o damascus_fw-la be_v se●…_n up_o thing_n dedicat_fw-la to_o idol_n as_o lutheran_n image_n be_v call_v idolatry_n 1_o cor_fw-la 10._o 34._o idolatry_n by_o participation_n and_o the_o cup_n of_o devil_n yet_o paul_n command●…_n not_o separation_n and_o the_o table_n of_o the_o lord_n be_v there_o i_o answer_v this_o be_v already_o remove_v by_o what_o be_v say_v above_o as_o to_o any_o conclusion_n for_o his_o cause_n which_o thi●…_n loose_a disputer_n do_v not_o so_o much_o as_o offer_v to_o draw_v ou●…_n upon_o these_o citation_n 1._o unless_o he_o prove_v the_o conform_v party_n to_o be_v the_o true_a church_n of_o scotland_n to_o which_o in_o this_o case_n we_o be_v oblige_v to_o adhere_v or_o 2._o if_o we_o can_v prove_v that_o according_a to_o our_o church_n reformation_n presbyterian_a minister_n and_o professor_n be_v the_o true_a organic_n church_n of_o scotland_n though_o the_o persecute_v small_a number_n which_o according_a to_o mr_n rutherfoord_n be_v very_o easy_a for_o he_o say_v that_o in_o case_n of_o defection_n truth_n as_o life_n recool_v to_o the_o small_a hide_a part_n due_a right_a page_n 253._o in_o either_o case_n i_o say_v this_o will_v plead_v more_o apposite_o for_o adherence_n to_o
presbyterian_a minister_n and_o their_o assembly_n next_o mr_n rutherfoord_v scope_n be_v to_o prove_v that_o personal_a fault_n corrupt_v not_o the_o worship_n which_o we_o deny_v not_o but_o as_o we_o have_v above_o clear_v this_o fall_n utter_o short_a of_o reach_v his_o conclusion_n as_o to_o the_o own_n of_o curate_n until_o he_o first_o prove_v his_o forementioned_a supposition_n wherein_o he_o beg_v the_o question_n and_o this_o principle_n or_o assertion_n of_o mr_n rutherfoord_n will_v plead_v more_o strong_o for_o not_o disow_v presbyterian_a minister_n until_o this_o informer_n prove_v his_o supposition_n and_o disprove_v we_o in_o this_o debate_n in_o a_o word_n the_o impertinency_n of_o all_o his_o citation_n here_o appear_v in_o this_o that_o there_o be_v no_o reason_n whereby_o he_o can_v ward_v of_o this_o argument_n its_o reach_a adherence_n to_o presbyterian_a minister_n and_o infer_v a_o conclusion_n of_o own_v they_o but_o it_o will_v either_o first_o be_v retort_v upon_o himself_o or_o second_o the_o universality_n of_o the_o argument_n and_o the_o conclusion_n deduce_v there_o from_o so_o limit_v as_o utter_o to_o irritat_fw-la his_o design_n since_o he_o must_v acknowledge_v that_o there_o may_v be_v a_o lawful_a separation_n from_o a_o ministry_n and_o ordinance_n although_o not_o pollute_v by_o personal_a scandal_n and_o therefore_o this_o principle_n in_o every_o case_n will_v not_o infer_v a_o separation_n to_o be_v unlawful_a far_o less_o a_o non_fw-fr union_n and_o he_o must_v acknowledge_v that_o to_o argue_v the_o unlawfulness_n of_o a_o separation_n or_o non-union_n in_o every_o case_n or_o mere_o from_o this_o ground_n that_o there_o be_v no_o pollution_n of_o ordinance_n by_o the_o personal_a fault_n of_o worshipper_n or_o administrator_n thereof_o be_v a_o gross_a petitio_fw-la principii_fw-la &_o ignoratio_fw-la elenchi_fw-la and_o which_o his_o case_n suppose_v many_o thing_n which_o be_v to_o be_v prove_v as_o 1._o that_o conformist_n be_v this_o church_n 2._o that_o this_o practice_n of_o disow_v they_o as_o now_o circumstantiat_fw-la be_v proper_o a_o sinful_a separation_n 3._o that_o prelatist_n have_v the_o best_a right_n to_o officiat_fw-la as_o minister_n in_o this_o church_n 4._o that_o we_o have_v no_o other_o reason_n for_o a_o non-union_n but_o this_o pretend_a pollution_n of_o ordinance_n and_o that_o we_o stand_v oblige_v upon_o this_o supposition_n that_o the_o ordinance_n be_v not_o thus_o pollute_v to_o join_v to_o they_o rather_o than_o presbyterian_a minister_n and_o since_o this_o principle_n will_v prove_v they_o all_o to_o be_v schismatic_n who_o disowne_v presbyterian_a minister_n in_o preach_v the_o gospel_n it_o will_v follow_v therefrom_o that_o our_o informer_n be_v in_o this_o pamphlet_n plead_v for_o schism_n or_o else_o he_o must_v so_o limit_v this_o position_n as_o thereby_o his_o conclusion_n against_o we_o shall_v be_v utter_o cut_v off_o as_o be_v say_v four_o he_o present_v unto_o we_o that_o passage_n page_n 254._o where_o he_o show_v that_o the_o godly_a in_o england_n though_o separate_v from_o bishop_n and_o ceremony_n do_v not_o separat_fw-la from_o that_o church_n and_o approve_v their_o do_v so_o and_o in_o keep_v communion_n therewith_o in_o unquestionable_a duty_n the_o contrary_a whereof_o he_o charge_v upon_o these_o separatist_n against_o who_o he_o reason_v tell_v we_o ibidem_fw-la that_o if_o a_o church_n be_v incorrigible_a in_o a_o wicked_a conversation_n and_o yet_o retain_v the_o true_a faith_n it_o be_v to_o be_v presume_v that_o god_n have_v some_o there_o to_o be_v save_v that_o christ_n himself_o be_v where_o his_o ordinance_n be_v and_o some_o union_n with_o he_o the_o head_n that_o though_o a_o private_a scandalous_a brother_n ought_v to_o be_v cast_v off_o yet_o not_o a_o orthodox_n church_n ans._n 1._o the_o presbyterian_o have_v all_o this_o to_o plead_v for_o pleoples_n adherence_n to_o they_o until_o this_o informer_n prove_v that_o the_o prelatic_a party_n be_v our_o national_a organic_n church_n which_o will_v be_v ad_fw-la kalendas_fw-la graecas_fw-la 2._o mr_n rutherfoord_n all_o along_o state_n his_o question_n as_o to_o separation_n from_o a_o church_n so_o and_o so_o pollute_v ergo_fw-la he_o spak_v not_o of_o a_o schismatic_a destroy_v innovate_a party_n or_o a_o separation_n from_o they_o rather_o than_o a_o sound_a church_n contend_v against_o they_o which_o will_v quite_o invert_v his_o scope_n and_o argue_v and_o the_o ground_n and_o hypothesis_n thereof_o for_o i_o pose_v this_o man_n what_o if_o a_o party_n of_o acknowledge_a innovator_n cast_v out_o the_o true_a ministry_n and_o shall_v plead_v this_o passage_n of_o mr_n rutherfoord_v for_o their_o schism_n and_o the_o people_n adherence_n to_o they_o sure_o he_o will_v charge_v they_o with_o beg_v the_o question_n as_o we_o do_v consormists_n in_o this_o point_n and_o will_v acknowledge_v that_o mr_n rutherfoord_n plead_v nothing_o for_o they_o five_o mr_n rutherfoord_n say_v ib_fw-la idem_fw-la we_o may_v separat_fw-la from_o the_o lord_n supper_n where_o the_o bread_n be_v adore_v and_o from_o baptism_n where_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n be_v yet_o we_o be_v not_o to_o separat_fw-la from_o the_o church_n ans._n we_o may_v hence_o collect_v that_o in_o mr_n rutherfoord_v principle_n 1._o we_o be_v to_o separat_fw-la from_o all_o contagious_a worship_n though_o not_o absolute_o corrupt_v 2._o that_o this_o be_v no_o separation_n from_o the_o church_n while_o there_o be_v a_o pure_a church_n &_o ministry_n to_o be_v join_v with_o and_o to_o which_o we_o be_v join_v 3._o that_o a_o fortiori_fw-la a_o non-union_n unto_o and_o disow_v of_o a_o backslide_a party_n who_o be_v not_o our_o church_n be_v warrantable_a because_o of_o their_o contagious_a corruption_n especial_o when_o as_o be_v say_v the_o opposition_n of_o that_o party_n to_o the_o true_a church_n be_v so_o virulent_a mr_n rutherfoord_n tell_v we_o there_o that_o we_o separate_v not_o from_o the_o church_n when_o we_o profess_v to_o hear_v the_o word_n and_o allow_v the_o truth_n of_o doctrine_n and_o do_v not_o presbyterian_a professor_n own_o the_o true_a doctrine_n of_o our_o reform_a church_n while_o hear_v and_o and_o adhere_n unto_o her_o faithful_a pastor_n beside_o mr_n rutherfoord_n tell_v we_o that_o there_o may_v be_v cause_n of_o non-union_n where_o there_o be_v not_o sufficient_a cause_n of_o separation_n as_o paul_n separate_v not_o from_o the_o jew_n till_o they_o blaspheme_v yet_o say_v he_o there_o be_v no_o cause_n why_o people_n shall_v join_v to_o that_o church_n before_o that_o time_n since_o they_o have_v the_o clean_a to_o join_v with_o viz._n that_o of_o the_o apostle_n ergo_fw-la in_o case_n of_o a_o true_a reform_a church_n her_o be_v divide_v and_o rend_v by_o a_o backslide_a destroy_a party_n oppose_v her_o authority_n union_n and_o purity_n introduce_v innovation_n into_o she_o contrary_a to_o her_o reformation_n and_o vow_n and_o cast_v out_o her_o faithful_a ministry_n who_o dare_v not_o comply_v with_o their_o wicked_a course_n a_o non-union_n to_o they_o and_o adherence_n rather_o to_o that_o faithful_a ministry_n contend_v against_o they_o be_v no_o sinful_a separation_n from_o the_o church_n nor_o a_o separation_n at_o all_o by_o mr_n rutherfoord_v doctrine_n sure_o the_o presbyterian_a party_n be_v in_o our_o principle_n the_o clean_a church_n to_o who_o therefore_o mr_n rutherfoord_v allow_v to_o adhere_v page_n 253._o but_o here_o the_o informer_n present_v we_o another_o passage_n in_o that_o same_o place_n to_o repel_v what_o be_v say_v viz._n that_o he_o assert_n there_o be_v no_o just_a cause_n to_o leave_v a_o less_o clean_a church_n if_o true_a and_o to_o go_v to_o a_o pure_a though_o one_o who_o be_v a_o member_n of_o no_o church_n may_v join_v to_o that_o which_o he_o conceive_v pure_a ans._n this_o make_v as_o little_a for_o he_o as_o any_o of_o the_o rest_n for_o 1._o he_o be_v still_o speak_v of_o a_o church_n thus_o entire_o less_o pure_a in_o comparison_n of_o a_o more_o pure_a but_o bless_v be_v god_n their_o prelatic_a impurity_n have_v not_o infect_v all_o our_o church_n their_o be_v 1000_o of_o minister_n &_o professor_n who_o adhere_v to_o the_o truth_n this_o man_n will_v not_o say_v that_o this_o will_v plead_v for_o a_o people_n adherence_n to_o a_o party_n of_o schismatic_a backsliders_n intrude_a upon_o a_o pure_a church_n introduce_v innovation_n into_o she_o and_o eject_v her_o faithful_a ministry_n as_o conformist_n be_v now_o do_v which_o will_v be_v yet_o more_o convince_o clear_a if_o we_o consider_v 2._o that_o mr_n rutherfoord_n lay_v much_o weight_n upon_o this_o that_o a_o man_n be_v already_o a_o member_n of_o that_o church_n which_o be_v less_o pure_a but_o we_o can_v be_v say_v to_o be_v hactenus_fw-la member_n of_o and_o on_o this_o ground_n under_o a_o prio_fw-la obligation_n of_o adherence_n unto_o a_o party_n of_o innovator_n and_o
of_o presbyterian_o may_v be_v admit_v to_o judge_v ans._n how_o he_o have_v fasten_v this_o charge_n of_o schismatic_a principle_n and_o practice_n upon_o presbyterian_a minister_n and_o professor_n i_o leave_v it_o to_o the_o impartial_a to_o judge_n from_o what_o be_v here_o reply_v and_o how_o far_o any_o thing_n which_o he_o have_v affere_v either_o from_o scripture_n or_o the_o principle_n of_o presbyterian_o be_v from_o reach_v the_o conclusion_n which_o he_o aim_v at_o in_o these_o trifle_a dialogue_n which_o all_o who_o be_v conscientious_a be_v we_o hope_v shy_a this_o rejoynder_n and_o a_o respect_n to_o truth_n and_o duty_n sufficient_o antidote_v against_o and_o the_o learned_a as_o well_o as_o conscientious_a may_v wonder_v at_o such_o prodigious_o bold_a ignorance_n 4._o he_o wonder_v that_o so_o many_o of_o good_a note_n and_o not_o of_o the_o commons_n only_o be_v drink_v in_o the_o principle_n of_o brounist_n which_o have_v be_v zealous_o dispute_v against_o by_o old_a nonconformist_n ans._n how_o h●…_n have_v make_v good_a this_o charge_n i_o refer_v it_o to_o the_o persusall_n of_o what_o be_v here_o reply_v and_o how_o far_o the_o plead_n of_o these_o nonconformist_n who_o he_o mention_n be_v from_o help_v his_o cause_n i_o must_v here_o add_v that_o its_o astoninish_n to_o find_v this_o man_n pretend_v a_o principle_n of_o conscience_n for_o this_o undertake_n when_o his_o conscience_n can_v not_o but_o tell_v he_o that_o both_o upon_o the_o point_n of_o episcopacy_n the_o covenant_n and_o separation_n also_o he_o may_v have_v find_v all_o and_o more_o than_o he_o have_v say_v full_o answer_v and_o that_o he_o pitiful_o snake_n away_o from_o our_o argument_n &_o there_fw-mi not_o propose_v they_o in_o there_o genuine_a strength_n nay_o he_o do_v not_o so_o much_o as_o offer_v fair_o to_o state_n the_o question_n in_o any_o of_o these_o three_o great_a point_n which_o he_o pretend_v to_o inform_v we_o about_o but_o confuse_o shuffle_n they_o up_o for_o his_o own_o advantadge_n and_o upon_o the_o point_n of_o the_o covenant_n obligation_n he_o poor_o follow_v the_o argument_n of_o the_o seasonable_a case_n and_o some_o hint_n from_o the_o surveyer_n without_o so_o much_o as_o offer_v any_o return_n unto_o what_o the_o apologist_n have_v long_o since_o repelyd_v unto_o they_o if_o this_o be_v conscientious_a deal_n let_v any_o judge_n and_o yet_o he_o be_v not_o ashamed_a to_o tell_v the_o world_n that_o because_o episcopacy_n and_o the_o covenant_n be_v by_o people_n make_v the_o great_a ground_n of_o separate_a therefore_o he_o premise_v his_o two_o dialogue_n concern_v episcopacy_n and_o the_o covenant_n to_o show_v what_o a_o sandy_a ground_n they_o be_v for_o separation_n if_o prelacy_n be_v find_v at_o least_o lawful_a and_o the_o covenant_n in_o every_o case_n not_o obligatorie_n whereas_o he_o have_v offer_v nothing_o either_o to_o prove_v prelacy_n lawful_a or_o the_o covenant_n not_o obligatorie_n but_o what_o be_v by_o several_a of_o the_o godly_a learn_v abundant_o answer_v and_o full_o baffle_v several_a of_o which_o viz._n the_o apollogist_n and_o jus_o divinum_fw-la ministry_n anglican_n he_o seem_v to_o have_v have_v before_o he_o in_o write_v these_o dialogue_n and_o yet_o neither_fw-mi do_v he_o touch_v the_o answer_n of_o the_o apologist_n to_o his_o argument_n anent_o the_o covenant_n nor_o there_fw-mi he_o scan_v the_o pungent_a argument_n of_o the_o london_n minister_n against_o prelacy_n and_o likewise_o there_o answer_v to_o several_a thing_n which_o he_o have_v offer_v for_o it_o and_o particular_o there_o learned_a appendix_n in_o the_o point_n of_o antiquity_n which_o cut_v the_o sinew_n of_o all_o his_o tedious_a legend_n of_o testimony_n he_o dare_v not_o meddle_v with_o beside_o it_o will_v seem_v he_o have_v see_v smectymnus_n upon_o this_o subject_n who_o learned_a confutation_n of_o the_o episcopal_a plea_n as_o well_o from_o scripture_n as_o antiquity_n he_o pass_v over_o sicco_fw-it pede_fw-la and_o as_o for_o erastian_n prelacy_n he_o offer_v not_o a_o jot_n indefence_n of_o it_o though_o his_o conscience_n can_v tell_v he_o that_o this_o be_v one_o main_a point_n of_o our_o plea_n against_o he_o so_o that_o suppose_v episcopacy_n be_v in_o its_o self_n find_v lawful_a as_o he_o say_v yet_o if_o erastian_n episcopacy_n be_v find_v unlawful_a his_o cause_n and_o plead_n be_v lame_a and_o lose_v after_o this_o he_o will_v amuse_v his_o reader_n with_o a_o testimony_n of_o zanchie_a and_o another_o of_o blondell_n which_o part_v the_o hoof_n of_o his_o page_n first_o as_o for_o zanchie_a he_o cite_v a_o passage_n of_o his_o obser_n in_fw-la svam_fw-la ipsius_fw-la confessionem_fw-la cap._n 25._o aphor_n 10._o 11._o wherein_o he_o save_v first_o his_o faith_n be_v simple_o build_v upon_o the_o word_n of_o god_n next_o in_o some_o measure_n upon_o the_o commun_n consent_n of_o the_o ancient_a catholic_n church_n and_o that_o he_o believe_v what_o have_v be_v defyne_v by_o holy_a father_n gather_v together_o in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o lord_n citra_fw-la ullam_fw-la scripturae_fw-la contradictionem_fw-la that_o these_o thing_n be_v from_o the_o spirit_n of_o though_o not_o of_o the_o same_o authority_n with_o scripture_n than_o he_o add_v that_o nothing_o be_v more_o certain_a from_o counsel_n history_n and_o writeing_n of_o the_o father_n than_o these_o order_n of_o minister_n of_o which_o he_o have_v be_v speak_v to_o have_v be_v receive_v into_o the_o church_n with_o her_o entire_a consent_n and_o what_o be_v he_o to_o condemn_v what_o the_o whole_a church_n have_v approve_v i_o answer_v beside_o that_o he_o shall_v have_v set_v down_o these_o gradus_fw-la ministrorum_fw-la which_o zanchius_n speak_v of_o that_o his_o reader_n may_v have_v know_v what_o these_o degree_n be_v or_o whither_o they_o be_v prelatic_a degree_n or_o not_o which_o no_o doubt_n he_o will_v have_v do_v have_v he_o not_o find_v that_o this_o will_v have_v mar_v his_o intent_n for_o which_o cause_n he_o do_v not_o so_o much_o as_o offer_v to_o english_a any_o part_n of_o this_o or_o of_o the_o ensue_a testimony_n we_o say_v first_o that_o any_o who_o know_v zanchy_n learning_n and_o what_o the_o voice_n of_o the_o first_o and_o pure_a antiquity_n be_v and_o how_o far_o from_o give_v a_o testimony_n to_o the_o present_a diocesian_n much_o less_o the_o erastian_n prelate_n of_o who_o none_o can_v without_o extreme_a impudence_n assert_v that_o zanchie_a be_v speak_v will_v esteem_v this_o persuasion_n that_o the_o prelacy_n now_o existant_fw-la with_o we_o have_v the_o universal_a consent_n of_o all_o history_n council_n and_o father_n to_o be_v as_o far_o from_o the_o thought_n of_o zanchie_a as_o its_o necessary_a to_o prove_v his_o point_n 2._o zanchise_v ayes_o his_o faith_n simple_o and_o main_o lean_v upon_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o so_o whatever_o the_o word_n be_v find_v to_o condemn_v as_o we_o have_v prove_v it_o do_v the_o present_a prelacy_n in_o many_o respect_n zanchie_a will_n make_v no_o bone_n to_o condemn_v it_o likewise_o own_o it_o who_o will_n the_o next_o passage_n he_o cite_v be_v of_o blondell_n apoll._n pag._n 193._o who_o assert_n that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d belong_v absolute_o to_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n and_o it_o be_v anext_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o the_o manner_n &_o order_n of_o its_o government_n which_o the_o church_n always_o think_v permit_v to_o her_o arbitrement_n neither_fw-mi must_v we_o think_v every_o thing_n unlawful_a which_o humane_a custom_n of_o professor_n have_v bring_v into_o the_o use_n of_o divine_a thing_n that_o in_o such_o thing_n christian_n prudence_n must_v act_v its_o part_n that_o no_o church_n must_v be_v draw_v into_o one_fw-mi example_n that_o from_o the_o general_a precept_n 〈◊〉_d cor._n 14_o 40_o the_o church_n have_v full_a power_n to_o follow_v what_o be_v more_o decent_a and_o commodious_a ans._n 1._o we_o have_v before_o clear_v that_o with_o blondell_n their_o diocesian_a prelate_n stand_v absolute_o condemn_v in_o scripture_n and_o in_o his_o principle_n be_v diametral_o opposite_a to_o the_o divine_a scripture_n bishop_n which_o evident_o conclude_v his_o condemn_v the_o present_a episcopacy_n with_o sole_a power_n of_o ordination_n and_o jurisdiction_n much_o more_o the_o erastian_n prelate_n alter_v fundamental_o the_o government_n itself_o which_o he_o there_fw-mi not_o say_v that_o blondell_n ever_o dream_v of_o so_o that_o though_o we_o shall_v grant_v because_o of_o this_o testimony_n that_o blondell_n will_v befound_v to_o admit_v a_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o constant_a moderator_n which_o be_v well_o know_v be_v the_o outmost_a length_n he_o go_v and_o that_o the_o church_n example_n and_o practice_n here_o anent_o may_v be_v variable_a it_o fall_v utter_o short_a of_o reach_v the_o lest_o patrociny_n to_o his_o cause_n 2._o he_o cite_v 1_o cor_n 14._o 40
anent_o alterable_a circumstance_n of_o order_n and_o decency_n about_o which_o the_o church_n exercise_n of_o christian_a prudence_n be_v conuérsant_a so_o that_o he_o must_v understand_v what_o he_o plead_v for_o to_o be_v of_o that_o nature_n but_o we_o have_v show_v upon_o the_o first_o dialogue_n how_o far_o its_o contrary_a to_o scripture_n &_o reason_n to_o include_v a_o diocesian_a bishop_n or_o arch_a bishop_n within_o the_o compass_n of_o decency_n and_o order_n there_o command_v since_o decency_n and_o order_n point_v only_o at_o circumstance_n of_o action_n already_o command_v and_o circumstance_n commun_v to_o civil_a and_o sacred_a thing_n and_o this_o according_a to_o the_o general_a rule_n of_o the_o word_n so_o that_o none_o can_v think_v blondell_n so_o sottish_a as_o to_o take_v in_o among_o these_o the_o diocesian_n or_o erastian_n bishop_n and_o archbishop_n 3._o since_o the_o profess_a scope_n of_o blondell_n learned_a appology_n be_v to_o plead_v for_o sententia_fw-la hieronomi_fw-la which_o be_v that_o in_o apostolic_a time_n communi_fw-la concilio_fw-la presbyterorum_fw-la ecelesiae_fw-la gubernabantur_fw-la sure_o whatever_o blondell_n may_v admit_v as_o to_o the_o church_n liberty_n in_o relation_n to_o a_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d yet_o the_o admission_n of_o the_o diocesian_a prelate_n with_o sole_a power_n of_o ordination_n and_o jurisdiction_n which_o this_o man_n plead_v for_o and_o much_o more_o the_o erastian_n prelate_n will_v evert_v both_o his_o hypothesis_n and_o scope_n again_o he_o dare_v not_o deny_v that_o with_o blondell_n the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v the_o ministerial_a scripturall_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o presbyterat_a so_o that_o what_o he_o call_v the_o modus_fw-la rei_fw-la can_v in_o its_o self_n and_o consequent_o in_o blondells_n meaning_n be_v suppose_v such_o a_o modus_fw-la rei_fw-la as_o destroy_v the_o thing_n itself_o &_o the_o subject_n which_o it_o affect_v as_o certain_o by_o the_o diocesian_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d much_o more_o the_o erastian_n do_v the_o very_a substantial_o of_o presbyter_n divine_a power_n which_o this_o learned_a author_n be_v in_o that_o piece_n plead_v for_o and_o in_o a_o word_n i_o dare_v pose_v this_o informer_n whither_o blondell_n will_v not_o have_v think_v a_o national_a church_n liberty_n in_o this_o point_n of_o custom_n or_o alterable_a circumstance_n of_o decency_n and_o order_n even_o though_o we_o shall_v grant_v that_o he_o put_v episcopacy_n among_o these_o be_v tie_v up_o and_o restrain_v by_o sacred_a solemn_a oath_n and_o vow_n universal_o take_v on_o against_o the_o same_o so_o that_o his_o cause_n be_v never_o a_o whit_n better_v by_o these_o blind_a testimony_n which_o as_o be_v say_v he_o he_o dare_v not_o translate_v as_o he_o profess_v to_o do_v in_o the_o rest_n of_o his_o citation_n for_o the_o advantage_n of_o the_o unlearned_a the_o assertion_n after_o subjoun_v by_o he_o viz._n that_o the_o unlawfulness_n of_o episcopacy_n be_v question_v by_o none_o of_o the_o ancient_n except_o aerius_n and_o rare_o by_o any_o of_o the_o modern_a except_o some_o of_o our_o british_a divine_n that_o ancient_a and_o modern_a divine_n think_v that_o prelacy_n be_v the_o primitive_a government_n leave_v by_o the_o apostle_n we_o have_v prove_v to_o be_v a_o manifest_a untruth_n special_o when_o apply_v to_o the_o prelacy_n existant_fw-la with_o we_o and_o that_o it_o be_v the_o consentient_a judgement_n of_o the_o far_o great_a part_n both_o of_o ancient_a and_o modern_a that_o there_o be_v no_o difference_n jure_fw-la divino_fw-la betwixt_o a_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n and_o that_o our_o prelate_n now_o in_o scotland_n be_v as_o far_o different_a from_o the_o ancient_a bishop_n as_o east_n from_o west_n so_o that_o no_o patrociny_n can_v be_v draw_v from_o the_o one_o to_o the_o other_o that_o blondell_n profess_v to_o vindicat_fw-la jerom_n from_o that_o which_o he_o call_v aerianism_n who_o will_v believe_v take_v aerius_n opinion_n to_o be_v for_o the_o premise_a identity_n of_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n since_o we_o have_v make_v it_o appear_v by_o testimony_n of_o the_o learned_a that_o both_o greek_a and_o latin_a father_n hold_v this_o same_o opinion_n with_o aerius_n how_o he_o have_v prove_v episcopacy_n to_o be_v the_o government_n which_o have_v best_a warrant_n in_o the_o word_n and_o have_v continue_v without_o interruption_n for_o many_o year_n we_o refer_v it_o to_o the_o reader_n to_o judge_v by_o what_o be_v above_o reply_v wherein_o we_o have_v make_v it_o appear_v that_o as_o his_o pretend_a scripture_n proof_n for_o prelacy_n and_o his_o answer_n to_o our_o argument_n against_o it_o be_v most_o frivolous_a so_o none_o of_o his_o pretend_a testimony_n from_o antiquity_n do_v reach_v his_o conclusion_n nor_o any_o shadow_n of_o a_o patrociny_n for_o our_o present_a prelate_n now_o establish_v who_o we_o have_v full_o disprove_v from_o scripture_n both_o in_o his_o diocesian_n and_o erastian_n mould_n what_o poor_a shadow_n for_o proof_n do_v this_o man_n grasp_v at_o blondell_n think_v the_o scripture_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d lawful_a and_o its_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o belong_v to_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o good_a order_n ergo_fw-la he_o plead_v for_o the_o diocesian_a bishop_n with_o sole_a power_n of_o ordination_n and_o jurisdiction_n and_o a_o bishop_n derive_v all_o his_o power_n from_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n as_o immediate_o subject_a unto_o he_o which_o be_v a_o very_a antilogical_a proof_n and_o a_o mere_a rop_n of_o sand_n last_o he_o main_o commend_v to_o his_o reader_n this_o dialogue_n anent_o separation_n wherein_o he_o say_v all_o the_o reason_n bring_v for_o it_o be_v propound_v and_o answer_v without_o passion_n which_o do_v but_o alienat_fw-la the_o mind_n ans._n how_o poor_o this_o man_n have_v answer_v the_o true_a ground_n of_o disow_a conformist_n or_o rather_o past_o they_o over_o and_o how_o pityful_o he_o all_o along_o beg_v the_o question_n in_o suppose_v what_o he_o have_v to_o prove_v we_o hope_v be_v make_v sufficient_o appear_v to_o the_o judicious_a and_o impartial_a as_o for_o passion_n its_o true_a there_o be_v less_o of_o this_o in_o his_o pamphlet_n then_o in_o some_o other_o of_o this_o stamp_n which_o his_o fellow_n have_v fling_v out_o among_o the_o people_n yet_o he_o have_v his_o signal_n flash_v of_o it_o in_fw-la justify_v dr_n burnet_n parallel_n of_o nonconformist_n with_o scribe_n and_o pharisee_n and_o in_o call_v they_o as_o great_a and_o causeless_a schismatic_n as_o ever_o the_o church_n have_v in_o any_o age_n nay_o in_o his_o gross_a malicious_a reflect_v upon_o the_o suffering_n of_o poor_a innocent_n in_o this_o land_n tell_v we_o under_o the_o covert_n of_o cyprian_n word_n at_o their_o in_o expiable_a sin_n of_o discord_n be_v not_o purge_v by_o their_o suffering_n that_o forsake_v christ_n church_n they_o can_v be_v martyr_n nor_o reign_n with_o he_o which_o with_o what_o a_o tincture_n of_o malice_n it_o present_v its_o self_n let_v any_o judge_n his_o conference_n he_o say_v do_v bring_v water_n to_o quenchour_n flame_n but_o they_o bring_v rather_o fuel_n to_o the_o fire_n and_o wood_n and_o hay_n to_o uphold_v babel_n the_o rabbi_n who_o he_o plead_v for_o have_v kindle_v our_o flame_n and_o the_o best_a way_n to_o quench_v they_o be_v to_o put_v these_o incendiary_n to_o the_o door_n next_o he_o cite_v the_o preface_n of_o the_o syntag._n confess_v edit_fw-la genev._n wherein_o the_o church_n of_o scotland_n be_v commend_v for_o her_o unity_n as_o well_o as_o purity_n of_o doctrine_n and_o then_o he_o cry_v out_o o_o how_o have_v we_o lose_v our_o good_a name_n and_o the_o staff_n of_o bond_n be_v break_v in_o the_o midst_n of_o we_o but_o he_o shall_v have_v be_v so_o ingenuous_a as_o to_o have_v tell_v we_o that_o we_o be_v in_o the_o preface_n of_o that_o syntagma_n commend_v for_o our_o reform_a presbyterian_a discipline_n as_o the_o great_a bond_n and_o cement_n of_o our_o unity_n and_o the_o guard_n of_o our_o pure_a doctrine_n and_o who_o have_v break_v this_o bond_n and_o sacred_a hedge_n i_o need_v not_o tell_v he_o and_o what_o have_v be_v the_o distress_n confusion_n and_o desolation_n of_o our_o church_n since_o it_o be_v break_v every_o one_o now_o see_v so_o that_o he_o may_v lament_v the_o loss_n of_o our_o good_a name_n upon_o this_o ground_n and_o especial_o of_o our_o integrity_n where_o he_o a_o true_a son_n and_o watchman_n of_o this_o church_n the_o consequence_n of_o our_o sad_a division_n through_o the_o violence_n and_o schismatic_a intrusion_n of_o abjure_a perjure_a prelate_n and_o their_o underling_n have_v indeed_o hazard_v the_o stand_n of_o christ_n kingdom_n among_o we_o according_a to_o that_o of_o mark_v 3._o 24._o and_o the_o bite_a &_o devour_a wolf_n the_o prelate_n for_o who_o he_o plead_v have_v hazard_v
the_o consume_n of_o god_n poor_a remnant_n gal._n 5._o 19_o our_o church_n dissolution_n &_o corruption_n &_o be_v he_o as_o tender_a to_o prevent_v this_o as_o to_o preserve_v there_o worldly_a peace_n and_o sinful_a union_n he_o will_v have_v see_v prelacy_n to_o be_v the_o idol_n jealousy_n the_o wedge_n drive_v by_o the_o popish_a artisan_n to_o divide_v and_o break_v this_o church_n and_o as_o the_o true_a cause_n of_o all_o our_o breach_n to_o be_v remove_v in_o order_n to_o heal_v the_o popish_a invasion_n do_v indeed_o plead_v for_o union_n of_o the_o true_a prorestant_a church_n and_o interest_n against_o they_o and_o consequent_o to_o hold_v out_o and_o oppose_v such_o arrant_a upholder_n and_o promoter_n of_o that_o antichristian_a interest_n as_o prelate_n have_v first_o and_o last_o be_v find_v and_o never_o more_o than_o now_o since_o popry_a have_v never_o more_o prevail_v then_o since_o they_o be_v establish_v by_o the_o confession_n even_o of_o our_o ruler_n and_o that_o without_o control_n while_o they_o be_v enflame_v the_o power_n to_o the_o out_o most_o height_n of_o rage_n against_o poor_a innocent_a nonconfomist_n so_o that_o union_n with_o they_o who_o be_v at_o so_o palpable_a a_o union_n with_o rome_n be_v not_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o spirit_n which_o be_v to_o be_v keep_v in_o the_o bond_n of_o peace_n and_o to_o be_v own_v by_o any_o that_o favour_n the_o protestant_a interest_n the_o text_n which_o he_o present_v unto_o we_o upon_o the_o frontispeice_n of_o the_o pamphlet_n will_v be_v find_v to_o rebound_v a_o deadly_a blow_n upon_o his_o cause_n for_o that_o ●…assage_n psal._n 122._o 6._o 7._o pray_v for_o the_o peace_n of_o jerusalem_n etc._n etc._n we_o also_o pray_v for_o this_o peace_n and_o in_o order_n to_o the_o obtain_n of_o this_o suit_n that_o the_o lord_n will_v make_v up_o the_o breach_n in_o her_o wall_n and_o remove_v the_o treacherous_a breaker_n thereof_o who_o we_o may_v say_v again_o and_o again_o that_o in_o this_o they_o have_v deal_v very_o treacherous_o but_o what_o peace_n with_o conformist_n while_o their_o whoordomsare_n so_o many_o the_o next_o text_n be_v psal_n 133._o 1._o behold_v how_o good_a and_o pleasant_a a_o thing_n it_o be_v for_o brethren_n to_o duel_n together_o in_o unity_n it_o be_v so_o indeed_o and_o therefore_o woe_n unto_o they_o if_o they_o repent_v no●…_n who_o have_v break_v this_o bond_n of_o holy_a brotherhood_n have_v rend_v aaron_n garment_n corrupt_v the_o covenant_n of_o levi_fw-la and_o do_v avowed_o own_o principle_n and_o way_n upon_o which_o hermon_n dew_n heaven_n blessing_n can_v be_v expect_v therefore_o this_o command_n of_o lovely_a union_n engadge_v to_o disjoin_v ourselves_o from_o they_o for_o the_o next_o text_n mark_v 3._o 24._o a_o kingdom_n divide_v against_o its_o self_n can_v stand_v etc._n etc._n we_o say_v god_n church_n have_v stand_v amid_o great_a division_n be_v one_o and_o entire_a in_o it_o ●…f_n and_o will_v at_o last_o be_v deliver_v from_o all_o division_n and_o offence_n and_o therefore_o upon_o the_o same_o ground_n we_o be_v to_o avoid_v prelatist_n who_o have_v cause_v they_o for_o that_o of_o heb_n 10._o 25._o anent_o not_o forsake_v the_o assembly_n we_o bless_v the_o lord_n that_o such_o as_o be_v sorroufull_a for_o our_o church_n true_a assembly_n and_o to_o who_o this_o man_n and_o his_o fellow_n reproach_n thereof_o be_v a_o burden_n have_v have_v the_o assembly_n of_o christ_n ambassador_n to_o attend_v and_o that_o the_o great_a master_n of_o assembly_n have_v not_o whole_o leave_v they_o but_o have_v cover_v a_o table_n in_o the_o wilderness_n in_o this_o our_o church_n fli●…ht_v unto_o it_o to_o these_o who_o with_o peril_n of_o their_o life_n be_v seek_v their_o soul_n food_n because_o of_o the_o sword_n of_o the_o wilderness_n draw_v out_o by_o assembly_n of_o schismatic_a destroy_a intruder_n from_o who_o we_o must_v depart_v and_o who_o have_v persecut_v we_o away_o for_o adherance_n to_o our_o swear_a reformation_n and_o covenant_n with_o god_n which_o they_o have_v dissound_v the_o sentence_n next_o subjoin_v viz_o opinionum_fw-la varietas_fw-la &_o opinantium_fw-la unitas_fw-la non_fw-la sunt_fw-la asustata_fw-la do_v high_o reflect_v upon_o himself_o and_o the_o party_n he_o plead_v for_o who_o do_v persecut_v with_o fire_n and_o sword_n all_o who_o differ_v in_o judgement_n from_o they_o in_o these_o thing_n which_o they_o acknowledge_v but_o tricae_fw-la &_o matter_n indifferent_a so_o that_o in_o this_o they_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o we_o we_o be_v chase_v out_o from_o they_o and_o can_v be_v admit_v to_o no_o union_n with_o they_o except_o we_o unit_fw-la in_o there_o sin_n which_o throw_v grace_n we_o be_v fixt_o resolve_v against_o his_o design_n to_o quiet_v people_n mind_n and_o settle_v they_o in_o more_o peace_n and_o unity_n be_v of_o itself_o to_o good_a to_o be_v present_v as_o a_o porch_n here_o to_o such_o a_o shatter_a pasquill_n and_o to_o be_v pretend_v to_o so_o bad_a a_o cause_n &_o in_o this_o place_n may_v be_v not_o unsuitable_o assimilate_v to_o solomon_n ring_n of_o gold_n in_o a_o swine_n snout_n no_o doubt_n solid_a peace_n and_o unity_n be_v only_o to_o be_v find_v in_o god_n way_n in_o keep_v his_o covenant_n and_o own_v his_o messenger_n of_o peace_n who_o foot_n have_v be_v beautiful_a even_o on_o these_o reproach_v mountain_n &_o other_o place_n where_o god_n people_n assemble_v since_o they_o have_v his_o call_n and_o seal_v to_o preach_v the_o gospel_n and_o not_o in_o follow_v the_o fox_n in_o a_o way_n of_o perjury_n and_o breach_n of_o covenant_n as_o this_o pamphleter_n will_v persuade_v finis_fw-la courteous_a reader_n there_o be_v several_a considarable_a typographicall_a error_n in_o the_o first_o part_n especial_o thou_o be_v desire_v ere_o thou_o read_v or_o in_o the_o read_n to_o amend_v with_o thy_o pen_n these_o ensue_a or_o such_o like_a as_o will_v occur_v unto_o the_o in_o the_o perusal_n first_o part._n pag._n 5._o l._n 15._o read_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 6._o l._n 25._o r._n 28._o l._n 29._o r._n inequality_n p._n 8._o l._n 18._o r._n chide_v p._n 9_o l._n 2._o r._n juridical_a l._n 8._o r._n high_a p._n 10._o l._n 6._o r._n pastor_n l._n 16._o r._n dogmatic_a l._n 35._o r._n juridical_a pag._n 11._o for_o as_o the_o foundation_n of_o r._n influencing_a p._n 13._o l._n 30._o r._n this_o p._n 17._o l._n 6._o r._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d l._n 24._o r._n pofess_z p._n 18._o l._n 17._o r._n he_o p._n 19_o l._n 32._o r._n qualification_n p._n 21._o l._n 7._o r._n have_v p._n 22._o l._n 11._o r._n tell_v l._n 20._o r._n the._n p._n 25._o l._n 23._o r._n with_o p._n 26._o l._n 31._o r._n none_o p._n 27._o l._n 1._o r._n up_o l._n 7._o r._n these_o p._n 28._o l._n 24._o r._n unto_o p._n 29._o l._n 26._o r._n power_n p._n 31._o l._n 17._o r._n there_o p._n 32._o l._n 32._o r._n it_o p._n 36._o l._n 26._o r._n wear_v p._n 37._o l._n 9_o r._n bring_v p._n 39_o l._n 13._o r._n he_o p._n 12._o p._n 46._o l._n 23._o r._n rom._n 12._o p._n 51._o l._n 1._o r._n gravari_fw-la l._n 2._o r._n politicorum_fw-la chap._n 7._o tit._n l._n 5._o add_v in_o p._n 59_o l._n 10._o r._n wear_v l._n 16._o add_v a._n l._n ult_n r._n not_o p._n 63._o l._n 9_o r._n oecononemy_n l._n ult_n add_v show_v p._n 68_o l._n 7._o r._n simple_o l._n 33._o r._n to_o p._n 73._o l._n 22._o r._n be_v p._n 76._o l._n 9_o add_v be_v p._n 81._o l._n 10._o r._n subject_n l._n 30._o r._n of_o dominion_n p._n 82._o l._n 25._o r._n inform_v p._n 84._o l._n 1._o r._n negative_o p._n 85._o l._n 9_o r._n this_o p._n 86._o l._n ult_n r._n the._n p._n 89._o l._n 13._o r._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 80._o p._n 92._o l._n 4_o l_o 32._o r._n can_v p._n 94._o l._n 33._o r._n in_o p._n 95._o l._n 1._o deal_n be_v p._n 96._o l._n 4._o r._n he_o p._n 99_o l._n 27._o add_v be_v p._n 102._o l._n 10_o for_o the_o corinthian_n r._n church_n p._n 104._o l._n 13._o deal_n as_o we_o may_v after_o show_v 107._o l._n penult_n r._n officer_n and_o office_n p._n 108._o l._n 30._o r._n can_v p._n 109._o l._n 9_o add_v he_o p._n 114._o l._n 10._o r._n thus_o l._n 32._o add_v no._n p._n 116._o l._n 11._o ad●…_n according_a to_o the_o series_n of_o his_o reason_n no._n p_o 119._o l._n 9_o r._n this_o l._n 29._o r._n inferior_a p._n 120._o l._n 30._o r._n this_o p._n 123._o l._n 4._o r._n christian._n p._n 124._o l._n 9_o r._n to_o gather_v l._n ●…30_n deal_n ry_o p._n 125._o l._n 24._o r._n be_v p._n 126._o l._n 22._o r._n spurious_a p._n 129._o l._n 1._o r._n command_v l._n 4._o r._n
presbytry_n p._n 131._o l._n 13._o supple_a in_o the_o proper_a scriptural_a senc_n l._n 32._o r._n grad_v p._n 137._o l._n 1._o deal_n have_v one_fw-mi office_n next_o to_o that_o of_o apostle_n and_o doctor_n p._n 139._o l._n 20._o r._n his_o p._n 140._o l._n 21._o r._n for_o p._n 148._o l._n 12._o r._n supple_a take_v it_o in_o one_fw-mi authoritative_a juridical_a senc_n p._n 150._o l._n penult_n r._n pray_v p._n 157._o l._n 14._o deal_n apostolic_a and._n p._n 162._o l._n 27._o r._n circle_n stil._n p._n 163._o l._n 9_o r._n with_o l._n ult_n r._n ceremonial_a ibid._n r._n part_n p._n 164._o l._n 31._o r._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ibid._n deal_n one_fw-mi p._n 167._o l._n 5._o r_o exemplify_v p._n 170._o l._n 14._o r._n prov._n 9_o p._n 171._o l._n 14._o r_o labourer_n l._n ult_n add_v we_o p._n 174._o l._n 34._o r._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 177._o l._n 10._o r._n ubi_fw-la p._n 177._o l_o 31._o for_o even_o r._n except_a p._n 178._o l._n 2._o r._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 183._o l._n 30._o ar._n itself_o p._n 186._o l._n 16._o r._n and_o pride_n l._n penult_n add_v in_o p._n 188._o l._n ult_n r._n true_a p._n 191._o l._n 30._o r._n profligat_fw-la p._n 195._o l._n 16._o r._n interval_n the_o l._n 21._o r._n nothing_o p._n 196._o l._n 3._o r._n bold_a p._n 198._o p._n 199._o l._n 5._o r._n what_o p._n 200._o l._n 2._o deal_n message_n or_o l._n 13._o add_v in_o p._n 201._o l._n 33_o p._n suppositia_fw-la l._n 33_o r._n suppositious_a l._n ult_n what_o p._n 203_o l._n 17._o r._n till_o 204._o l._n 6._o r._n consuetudo_fw-la p._n 206._o l._n 24._o r._n for_o 1._o p._n 211._o l._n 21._o through_o the._n p._n 215._o l._n 25._o r._n distributive_o 217._o l._n 9_o deal_n by_o l._n 19_o add_v be_v p._n 219._o l._n 6._o r._n or_o p._n 221._o l._n 24_o add_v the._n l._n 25._o r._n oppose_v p._n 222._o l._n 25._o r._n of_o p._n 226_o r._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 227_o l._n 12_o r._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 229._o l._n 24._o r._n deligatur_fw-la plebe_fw-la p._n 231_o l._n 30._o r._n ligandi_fw-la l._n ult_n in_o p._n 236._o 11._o r._n ●…rum_fw-la p._n 238_o l._n 26._o r._n fit_a segregatus_fw-la l._n 27._o r._n set_v aside_o or_o cesure_v p._n 241_o l._n 20._o r._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d l._n 25_o r._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 142_o l._n 10._o r._n lowly_a p_o 143._o l._n 10._o r._n unalterablenes_n l._n 19_o r._n harmonious_a p._n 245_o l._n 7._o r._n common_a p._n 246._o l._n 28._o r._n name_n p._n 247._o l._n 28._o r._n office_n ibid._n r._n none_o l._n 30_o r._n we_o p._n 252._o l._n 3._o r._n 5._o l._n 33._o supple_a and_o beside_o l._n 34_o r._n this_o ibid._n supple_a which_o be_v p._n 261._o l._n 28._o r._n forget_v 29._o r._n for_o p._n 261._o l._n 26._o r._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 265._o l._n 10._o deal_n as_o to_o soom_n act_n p._n 272._o l._n 6._o r._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 281._o l._n 9_o r._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 2._o part._n pag_n 2._o l._n 15._o supple_a both_o p._n 7._o l._n 24._o supple_a anno_fw-la 40._o and_o 41._o p._n 24._o l._n 17._o r._n 1671._o p._n 62._o l._n 4._o r._n this_o p._n 73._o l._n 2._o r._n then_o l._n 20._o r._n can_v p._n 99_o l._n 18._o r._n commissary_n p._n 117._o l._n 4._o deal_n i_o p._n 124._o l._n 4._o r._n consonant_n p._n 132._o l._n 19_o r._n diaeceseos_n l._n 21._o supple_a the._n part._n 3._o pag._n 2._o l._n 13._o r._n our_o l._n 14._o r._n or_o p._n 4._o l._n 29._o r._n declare_v p._n 12._o l._n 13._o supple_a and_o be_v p._n 14._o l._n 28._o r._n do_v p._n 26_o l._n 15_o supple_a one_fw-mi p._n 28_o l._n 28._o r._n and._n p._n 29_o l._n 16_o r._n of_o p._n 35_o l._n 31_o supple_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 32._o r._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 36_o l._n 1_o r._n motion_n p._n 37_o l._n 28_o r_o four_o p._n 39_o l._n 32_o r._n constitution_n p._n 40_o l._n 32_o supple_a compare_v this_o with_o what_o he_o plead_v from_o the_o instance_n of_o solomon_n depose_v abiathar_n p._n 48_o l._n 9_o r._n by_o p._n 53_o l._n 2._o r._n obligation_n p._n 59_o l_o 8_o r._n intrusion_n p._n 61_o l._n 32_o add_v thereof_o p._n 64_o l._n 27_o r_o chouse_v p._n 67_o l._n 15_o r._n petitio_fw-la p._n 69_o l._n 25_o r._n they_o p._n 73_o l._n 32_o r._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 78_o l_o ult_n r._n sabinus_n p._n 81_o l._n 15_o r._n the_o p._n 83_o l._n penult_n r._n relation_n p._n 84_o l._n 15_o r._n no_o bishop_n p._n 90_o l._n 21._o r._n priest_n l._n 27_o deal_n hear_v of_o p._n 28_o deal_n and_o attend_v their_o ministry_n as_o such_o 15._o p._n 94_o l._n 11_o add_v graceless_a man_n p._n 95_o l._n 4_o deal_n of_o p._n 103_o l._n 18_o r._n ofl_fw-mi 23_o r_o scruple_n p._n 113_o l._n 1_o r._n supremacy_n p._n 127_o l._n 28_o r._n inquies_fw-la p._n 130_o l._n ult_n r._n calceorum_fw-la p._n 134_o l._n 12_o r._n another_o p._n 138_o l._n 26_o r._n authority_n l._n penult_n r._n our_o p._n 160_o l._n 1_o add_v this_o p._n 162_o l._n 27_o r._n presbyterian_a p._n 165_o l._n 17_o r._n they_o p._n 167_o l._n 27_o r._n for_o or_o r._n again_o p._n 168_o l._n r_o add_v especial_o p._n 170_o l._n 10_o r._n which_o notwithstanding_o be_v 179_o l._n 29_o r._n magistrate_n p._n 181_o l._n 12._o r._n a_o pure_a church_n p._n 183_o l._n 16_o r._n and_o which_o do_v p._n 186_o l._n 2_o r._n thousand_o l._n 16_o r._n this_o p._n 190_o l._n 11._o r._n more_o then_o l._n 28_o r._n offer_v p_o 162_o l._n 8_o r._n smectymnuus_n p._n p_o 162_o l._n 25_o r._n the_o holy_a spirit_n deal_n of_o ibid._n p._n pe_fw-es command_v p._n 76._o l._n 19_o after_o ambition_n r._n the_o text_n be_v most_o express_v in_o it_o that_o the_o inequality_n which_o they_o be_v strive_a about_o include_v a_o dominion_n and_o primacy_n p._n 77._o l._n 13._o after_o touch_v add_v since_o our_o lord_n be_v now_o exercise_v a_o absolute_a supremacy_n over_o his_o church_n how_o then_o i_o pray_v will_v this_o argument_n take_v from_o his_o example_n suit_n his_o scope_n &_o purpose_n of_o discharge_v a_o supremacy_n p._n 79._o l._n 20._o 21._o r._n thus_o do_v not_o christ_n discharge_v one_fw-mi inequality_n in_o discharge_v a_o primacy_n a_o inequality_n of_o the_o high_a pitch_n p._n 79_o l._n ult_n r._n seem_v to_o make_v p._n 80._o l._n ult_n after_o power_n add_v to_o use_v his_o way_n of_o speak_v p_o 81._o l_o 20_o r._n and_o neither_o despotic_a nor_o princely_a p._n 83._o l._n 28_o 29._o r._n that_o church-officer_n be_v of_o superior_a or_o inferior_a order_n or_o kind_n p._n 84._o l_o 26._o r._n a_o preach_a presbyter_n or_o pastor_n l._n 31_o 32._o r._n such_o presbyter_n have_v the_o scriptural_a episcopal_a authority_n p_o 85._o l._n 17_o r._n superior_a and_o inferior_a kind_n or_o order_n p._n 87._o l._n 6_o r._n after_o church_n ruler_n add_v we_o all_o know_v how_o prelatist_n and_o the_o popish_a church_n apply_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o clerus_fw-la l._n 9_o after_o denomination_n add_v consider_v in_o its_o true_a extent_n &_o import_n p._n 89._o l._n 5._o r._n to_o the_o high_a ordinary_a office_n bearer_n entrust_v with_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n l._n 14_o r._n whatever_o power_n of_o order_n or_o jurisdiction_n the_o scripture_n bishop_n can_v lay_v claim_n unto_o p._n 90_o l._n 1._o r._n the_o scripture_n episcopal_n power_n l._n 9_o r._n all_o this_o episcopal_a authority_n l._n 25_o r._n elder_n or_o bishop_n in_o a_o perfect_a parity_n and_o in_o common_a so_o l._n ult_n after_o flock_n p._n 91._o l._n 3._o after_o presbyter_n add_v when_o apply_v as_o be_v say_v to_o the_o high_a ordinary_a officer_n entrust_v with_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n l_o 12_o r._n preach_v presbyter_n or_o pastor_n so_o l._n 18_o l._n 32._o after_o elder_a add_v he_o must_v understand_v the_o preach_n elder_a or_o pastor_n if_o he_o speak_v to_o the_o point_n l._n ult_n and_o pag._n 92._o l._n 1._o r._n when_o god_n be_v point_v out_o thereby_o the_o high_a ordinary_a officer_n entrust_v with_o the_o word_n and_o doctrine_n l._n 5._o r._n preach_v presbyter_n l._n 15_o r._n preach_v elder_n l._n 17._o r._n this_o high_a ordinary_n stand_v officer_n often_o mention_v p._n 92._o l._n 17._o r._n when_o the_o word_n bishop_n be_v apply_v to_o the_o high_a ordinary_a church_n officer_n entrust_v with_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n l._n 24._o r._n preach_v elder_a or_o
adherence_n to_o this_o church_n her_o swear_a reformation_n principle_n and_o faithful_a ministry_n adherence_n to_o a_o divide_a sect._n for_o the_o 4._o anent_o the_o difference_n betwixt_o a_o sound_n and_o sinful_a zeal_n and_o that_o we_o be_v suspicious_a of_o our_o religious_a passion_n we_o say_v zeal_n for_o the_o gospel_n for_o keep_v covenant_n with_o god_n for_o reformation_n from_o popry_a and_o prelacy_n which_o be_v the_o the_o test_n of_o our_o zeal_n as_o state_v in_o opposition_n to_o they_o do_v convince_o evidence_n its_o soundness_n for_o the_o 5._o anent_o not_o be_v over_o tender_a of_o our_o repute_n or_o impatient_a of_o man_n censure_n we_o say_v to_o be_v tender_a of_o truth_n and_o duty_n and_o our_o good_a name_n in_o maintain_v it_o which_o be_v as_o precious_a ointment_n and_o to_o be_v tender_a of_o not_o offend_v and_o displease_v all_o who_o be_v thus_o tender_a be_v nothing_o but_o a_o true_a and_o gospel-tenderness_n for_o the_o 6._o anent_o eshew_v needless_a fellowship_n with_o the_o more_o censorious_a christian_n we_o say_v we_o stand_v oblige_v to_o keep_v fellowship_n with_o all_o the_o godly_a in_o all_o duty_n and_o this_o charge_n of_o over_o censoriousness_n we_o deny_v as_o to_o our_o plea_n against_o conformist_n neither_o have_v he_o informer_n yet_o make_v it_o good_a for_o the_o 7._o that_o we_o lay_v not_o too_o much_o weight_n on_o doubtful_a opinion_n nor_o begin_v with_o they_o we_o bless_v god_n that_o in_o this_o pure_a church_n god_n people_n have_v be_v teach_v the_o solid_a beginning_n and_o first_o principle_n and_o do_v build_v on_o that_o foundation_n but_o we_o have_v not_o so_o learned_a christ_n as_o to_o put_v into_o the_o category_n of_o thing_n doubtful_a breach_n of_o covenant_n abjure_v prelacy_n and_o a_o schismatic_a sinful_a compliance_n therewith_o for_o the_o 8._o anent_o not_o admire_v or_o favour_v a_o preacher_n for_o his_o voice_n affectionate_a utterance_n etc._n etc._n without_o solid_a understanding_n we_o say_v god_n people_n with_o we_o have_v be_v help_v not_o to_o regard_v man_n speech_n but_o their_o power_n and_o as_o they_o know_v christ_n the_o great_a shepherd_n his_o truth_n by_o his_o voice_n from_o they_o according_o as_o his_o sheep_n to_o follow_v they_o for_o the_o 9_o anent_o not_o reject_v a_o good_a cause_n because_o own_a by_o bad_a man_n we_o say_v the_o cause_n we_o disowne_v be_v bad_a in_o itself_o and_o we_o disowne_v the_o owner_n of_o this_o bad_a cause_n upon_o this_o ground_n and_o be_v confirm_v in_o our_o disow_n of_o it_o by_o the_o fruit_n which_o we_o see_v the_o own_n of_o it_o produce_v in_o its_o supporter_n and_o abbetor_n which_o be_v such_o as_o do_v warrant_v we_o according_a to_o our_o lord_n command_v to_o avoid_v and_o beware_v of_o they_o for_o the_o 10._o not_o to_o follow_v the_o bad_a example_n of_o religious_a person_n we_o bless_v the_o lord_n we_o be_v teach_v to_o walk_v by_o the_o rule_n of_o god_n word_n not_o by_o example_n of_o man_n and_o not_o to_o follow_v even_o a_o paul_n further_a than_o he_o be_v a_o follower_n of_o christ._n for_o the_o 11._o anent_o keep_v a_o eye_n on_o the_o state_n of_o all_o church_n upon_o earth_n and_o ponder_v how_o christ_n keep_v fellowship_n with_o they_o lest_o while_o we_o think_v we_o separat_fw-la only_o from_o these_o about_o we_o we_o separate_v from_o almost_o all_o church_n we_o say_v that_o we_o have_v look_v upon_o our_o own_o church_n deserve_o as_o among_o the_o pure_a and_o best_a reform_v and_o by_o the_o same_o rule_n be_v concern_v to_o keep_v up_o fellowship_n with_o she_o as_o know_v that_o such_o as_o renounce_v fellowship_n with_o she_o will_v renounce_v it_o with_o all_o church_n and_o this_o we_o do_v with_o a_o due_a charity_n for_o all_o reform_a church_n and_o whatever_o church_n do_v hold_v the_o foundation_n but_o upon_o these_o ground_n we_o be_v bind_v to_o disowne_v destroy_v schismatic_n as_o be_v our_o conformist_n who_o have_v introduce_v abjure_v innovation_n contrary_a to_o her_o pure_a constitution_n and_o reformation_n and_o have_v go_v out_o from_o her_o fellowship_n and_o by_o the_o same_o consequential_a reason_n from_o the_o fellowship_n of_o all_o church_n for_o the_o last_o rule_n which_o he_o mention_n that_o we_o count_v it_o as_o comfortable_a to_o be_v a_o martyr_n for_o love_n and_o peace_n by_o blind_a zealot_n as_o for_o the_o faith_n by_o infidel_n we_o say_v that_o we_o own_v no_o zeal_n which_o be_v not_o according_a to_o knowledge_n and_o be_v contend_v for_o the_o union_n and_o reformation_n of_o our_o mother_n against_o a_o party_n of_o blind_a fiery_a zealot_n for_o one_fw-mi abjure_v hierarchy_n contrary_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o this_o church_n vow_n in_o which_o honourable_a quarrel_n that_o many_o have_v suffer_v even_o to_o bond_n imprisonment_n yea_o death_n itself_o it_o be_v our_o glory_n as_o for_o what_o he_o add_v of_o the_o english_a nonconformist_n their_o testyfe_n against_o separation_n as_o a_o way_n which_o god_n never_o bless_v with_o peace_n and_o holiness_n though_o they_o dissent_v from_o the_o ceremony_n i_o nothing_o doubt_v but_o that_o they_o will_v have_v put_v the_o same_o character_n upon_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o prelate_n and_o their_o follower_n have_v they_o see_v and_o know_v all_o the_o circumstance_n of_o our_o case_n they_o dissent_v from_o fellowship_n in_o the_o ceremony_n and_o eatenus_fw-la from_o fellowship_n in_o the_o worship_n though_o that_o church_n have_v never_o be_v purge_v from_o they_o how_o much_o more_o than_o be_v we_o concern_v to_o disowne_v innovation_n introduce_v into_o this_o church_n after_o they_o have_v be_v cast_v out_o and_o vow_v against_o suppose_v that_o church_n have_v be_v as_o we_o reform_v in_o doctrine_n worship_n discipline_n and_o government_n and_o a_o party_n have_v rise_v up_o destroy_v that_o pure_a constitution_n contrary_a to_o all_o their_o vow_n admit_v none_o to_o fellowship_n without_o acknowledge_v of_o their_o wicked_a course_n persecute_v and_o cast_v out_o all_o minister_n and_o professor_n who_o will_v not_o concur_v and_o then_o let_v they_o tell_v we_o what_o these_o nonco●…ists_n will_v have_v do_v in_o this_o case_n sure_o upon_o the_o same_o ground_n that_o they_o eshew_v a_o contagion_n in_o communicate_v with_o the_o ceremony_n they_o will_v have_v eshew_v this_o piece_n of_o contagious_a conformity_n also_o especial_o the_o express_a vow_n of_o adherence_n to_o that_o suppose_a reformation_n in_o every_o piece_n of_o it_o and_o of_o disow_v all_o recess_n all_o backslider_n and_o of_o own_v all_o adherer_n to_o these_o vow_n in_o prusue_v the_o end_n thereof_o be_v take_v in_o and_o due_o ponder_v after_o the_o close_a of_o this_o dialogue_n our_o informer_n will_v needs_o strengthen_v his_o plea_n in_o present_v unto_o we_o by_o way_n of_o apendix_n some_o passage_n of_o the_o english_a presbyterian_o their_o jus_fw-la divinum_fw-la ministerij_fw-la anglicani_n and_o likewise_o in_o mr_n rutherfoord_n his_o due_a right_n of_o presbytery_n anent_o the_o unwarrantableness_n of_o separatio●…_n which_o as_o they_o be_v utter_o alien_a from_o our_o purpose_n so_o as_o will_v seem_v in_o the_o conviction_n hereof_o he_o do_v not_o so_o much_o as_o offer_v to_o draw_v a_o argument_n from_o any_o of_o they_o while_o propound_v these_o his_o grand_a suppose_a topic_n except_o a_o general_a hint_n at_o the_o close_a which_o be_v utter_o insufficient_a to_o fortify_v his_o conclusion_n as_o we_o shall_v after_o show_v but_o leave_v the_o favourable_a conclusion_n to_o be_v draw_v by_o his_o half-proselyted_n doubter_n or_o friendly_a partial_a reader_n however_o although_o upon_o the_o matter_n any_o seem_a conclusion_n he_o may_v draw_v from_o they_o be_v answer_v yet_o we_o shall_v view_v they_o brief_o have_v premise_v 1._o that_o he_o suppose_v but_o have_v not_o yet_o make_v good_a the_o charge_n of_o a_o sinful_a separation_n upon_o the_o people_n of_o god_n in_o this_o case_n which_o we_o have_v show_v to_o be_v more_o applicable_a to_o himself_o 2._o that_o the_o case_n of_o separation_n from_o that_o church_n at_o that_o time_n because_o of_o her_o corruption_n be_v far_o wide_a from_o this_o case_n of_o our_o disow_a conformist_n now_o and_o consequent_o all_o his_o citation_n will_v never_o come_v home_o to_o our_o purpose_n because_o 1._o not_o to_o separat_fw-la from_o a_o church_n upon_o the_o ground_n of_o corruption_n which_o have_v be_v long_o settle_v in_o she_o be_v very_o far_o distinct_a from_o this_o practice_n of_o disow_v a_o innovate_a party_n introduce_v corruption_n to_o the_o ruin_n of_o a_o pure_a church_n after_o they_o have_v be_v see_v and_o universal_o cast_v out_o which_o be_v the_o practice_n he_o now_o plead_v for_o a_o stop_v as_o to_o a_o advance_v in_o reformation_n be_v much_o different_a from_o