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the_o scripture_n secure_o and_o aright_o before_o we_o know_v the_o substantial_a article_n of_o faith_n which_o all_o be_v bind_v express_o to_o believe_v the_o scripture_n the_o the_o minister_n here_o labour_v to_o prove_v that_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n be_v contain_v in_o scripture_n and_o therefore_o can_v be_v tradition_n unwritten_a which_o discourse_n be_v impertinent_a and_o the_o inference_n false_a for_o himself_o grant_v pag._n 150._o lin_v 16._o that_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n be_v both_o write_v tradition_n and_o unwritten_a the_o doctrine_n then_o of_o tradition_n be_v term_v unwritten_a not_o because_o it_o be_v no_o way_n write_v but_o because_o as_o the_o answerer_n say_v it_o be_v know_v by_o preach_v precedent_o and_o independent_o of_o scripture_n summary_n comprehension_n of_o which_o point_n be_v term_v the_o rule_n 13._o rule_n tertul._n de_fw-fr praescr_n c._n 13._o of_o faith_n this_o be_v gross_a be_v the_o answerer_n here_o bring_v three_o argument_n 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church_n cap._n 4._o d._n feild_n write_v in_o this_o sort_n we_o hold_v with_o the_o papist_n that_o neither_o conference_n of_o place_n nor_o consideration_n of_o antecedentia_fw-la and_o consequentia_fw-la nor_o the_o knowledge_n of_o tongue_n and_o look_v into_o the_o original_n â—s_v of_o any_o force_n unless_o we_o find_v the_o thing_n which_o we_o conceive_v to_o be_v understand_v and_o mean_v in_o the_o place_n interpret_v to_o be_v consonant_n unto_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n 19_o faith_n d._n feild_n l._n 4._o of_o the_o church_n cap._n 14._o &_o 19_o for_o who_o can_v be_v able_a to_o understand_v the_o scripture_n but_o he_o that_o be_v settle_v in_o those_o thing_n which_o the_o apostle_n presuppose_v in_o their_o delivery_n of_o scripture_n second_o by_o the_o experience_n both_o of_o all_o former_a age_n and_o this_o present_a prove_v by_o too_o many_o example_n that_o such_o as_o come_v to_o read_v &_o expound_v scripture_n without_o be_v aforehand_o settle_v by_o 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from_o the_o apostle_n witness_n 9_o witness_n ruffinus_n eccles._n hist._n l._n 2._o c._n 9_o s._n basill_n and_o s._n gregory_n nazianzen_n the_o two_o grande_fw-fr doctor_n of_o the_o grecian_a church_n and_o origen_n who_o thus_o write_v 29._o write_v orig._n tract_n in_o matth._n cap._n 29._o in_o our_o understand_v of_o scripture_n we_o must_v not_o depart_v from_o the_o first_o ecclesiastical_a tradition_n nor_o believe_v otherwise_o but_o as_o the_o church_n of_o god_n have_v by_o succession_n deliver_v to_o us._n ergo_fw-la no_o man_n be_v able_a to_o read_v &_o interpret_v scripture_n without_o scripture_n without_o protestant_n affirm_v as_o whitaker_n contr_n 1._o q._n 4._o c._n 2._o and_o other_o that_o no_o man_n can_v understand_v scripture_n that_o bring_v not_o with_o he_o the_o light_n of_o faith_n and_o christian_a piety_n puras_fw-la &_o sanctas_fw-la mentes_fw-la which_o do_v most_o evident_o demonstrate_v that_o faith_n about_o substantial_a point_n be_v ground_v on_o god_n word_n precedent_o unto_o scripture_n that_o persuasion_n which_o be_v precedent_n unto_o the_o knowledge_n of_o scripture_n and_o be_v the_o rule_n guide_v we_o in_o our_o knowledge_n of_o scripture_n can_v be_v ground_v upon_o knowledge_n of_o scripture_n but_o christian_a faith_n &_o piety_n as_o they_o grant_v be_v precedent_n unto_o knowledge_n of_o scripture_n yea_o must_v be_v bring_v unto_o the_o read_n thereof_o and_o direct_v we_o in_o it_o ergo_fw-la faith_n be_v not_o original_o ground_v on_o scripture_n the_o light_n &_o assistance_n of_o firm_a christian_a faith_n aforehand_o conceive_v by_o the_o voice_n of_o the_o church_n deliver_v what_o by_o tradition_n from_o ancestor_n she_o receive_v whence_o i_o also_o conclude_v that_o it_o be_v exceed_o dangerous_a boldness_n in_o man_n of_o this_o age_n so_o to_o presume_v on_o their_o interpretation_n of_o scripture_n get_v by_o diligent_a read_n and_o confer_v of_o place_n as_o they_o care_v not_o though_o a_o 344._o a_o luther_n de_fw-fr captiu_fw-la babyl_n tom._n 2._o wittenberg_n pag._n 344._o thousand_o of_o cyprian_n augustin_n church_n &_o tradition_n shall_v stand_v against_o they_o the_o four_o argument_n those_o that_o understand_v the_o scripture_n aright_o must_v be_v such_o as_o they_o be_v to_o who_o the_o apostle_n write_v and_o deliver_v the_o scripture_n and_o who_o instruction_n they_o intend_v by_o their_o writing_n but_o the_o apostle_n as_o d._n margin_n d._n lib._n 4._o of_o the_o church_n c._n 4._o in_o the_o margin_n feild_n acknowledge_v write_v to_o they_o they_o have_v former_o teach_v more_o at_o large_a that_o be_v instruct_v and_o ground_v in_o all_o substantial_a and_o necessary_a point_n of_o faith_n that_o know_v the_o common_a necessary_a observation_n of_o christianity_n ergo_fw-la they_o that_o read_v and_o presume_v to_o interpret_v the_o scripture_n without_o first_o know_v and_o firm_o believe_v by_o tradition_n at_o the_o least_o all_o necessary_a and_o substantial_a point_n of_o faith_n church_n faith_n the_o minister_n pag._n 34._o lin_v 34._o charge_v the_o
the_o choice_n of_o printer_n that_o protestant_n enjoy_v of_o thou_o gentle_a reader_n in_o requital_n of_o my_o labour_n i_o require_v no_o more_o then_o that_o to_o the_o peruse_n of_o they_o thou_o will_v bring_v a_o unpartial_a mind_n free_a from_o prejudicate_a opinion_n raise_v by_o pulpit-inuective_n and_o popular_a report_n free_a i_o say_v from_o human_a regard_n affect_v unto_o the_o truth_n of_o salvation_n resolve_v when_o the_o same_o appear_v not_o to_o be_v keep_v from_o the_o embrace_n thereof_o through_o the_o fear_n of_o temporal_a danger_n if_o thy_o mind_n be_v thus_o indifferent_o &_o pious_o dispose_v i_o do_v not_o doubt_v but_o after_o attentive_a read_n thou_o will_v give_v the_o same_o censure_n of_o the_o conference_n and_o disputation_n betwixt_o we_o and_o our_o adversary_n which_o marcellinus_n pronounce_v of_o the_o conference_n betwixt_o the_o catholic_n and_o donatist_n augustin_n in_o breviculo_fw-la collat._n omnium_fw-la argumentorun_n manifestatione_n à _fw-la catholicis_fw-la aduersarios_fw-la confutato_n esse_fw-la that_o the_o catholic_n be_v prove_v superior_a unto_o their_o adversary_n by_o the_o manifest_a truth_n of_o all_o kind_n of_o argument_n a_o table_n of_o the_o content_n and_o principal_a matter_n handle_v aswell_o in_o the_o answer_n as_o in_o the_o rejoinder_n the_o preface_n to_o the_o reader_n a_o introduction_n to_o the_o censure_n show_v the_o vanity_n of_o the_o picture_n and_o pageant_n display_v in_o the_o first_o two_o page_n of_o the_o minister_n book_n content_n of_o the_o censure_n sect._n i._o doctor_n white_a his_o ignorance_n of_o latin_a and_o grammar_n or_o else_o wilful_a go_v against_o the_o know_a truth_n pag._n 9_o §_o 1._o s._n epiphanius_n word_n about_o image_n interpret_v against_o grammar_n pag._n 10.11_o etc._n etc._n §_o 2._o his_o grammatical_a ignorance_n about_o the_o word_n accipite_fw-la manducate_a bibite_fw-la pag._n 12.13_o etc._n etc._n §_o 3._o his_o gross_a misprision_n in_o translate_n of_o latin_n pag._n 15.16_o etc._n etc._n §_o 4._o about_o s._n cyprian_n teach_v transubstantiation_n and_o the_o word_n species_n pag._n 19.20_o etc._n etc._n §_o 5._o his_o abuse_v the_o jesuit_n word_n against_o english_a construction_n to_o a_o impious_a sense_n pag._n 23.24_o etc._n etc._n sect._n ii_o d._n white_a his_o gross_a and_o incredible_a ignorance_n in_o logic_n pag._n 30._o §_o 1._o his_o fond_a accusation_n of_o the_o jesuit_n as_o peccant_a against_o the_o form_n of_o syllogism_n pag._n 31._o §_o 2._o four_o argument_n by_o he_o bring_v all_o foolish_a &_o peccant_a in_o form_n pag_n 37.38_o etc._n etc._n §_o 3._o his_o ridiculous_a argument_n to_o prove_v a_o divine_a ordinance_n for_o layman_n to_o read_v the_o scripture_n pag._n 43.44_o etc._n etc._n sect._n iii_o d._n white_a his_o gross_a ignorance_n of_o theology_n pag._n 51._o §·_o 1._o his_o teach_n that_o unto_o minister_n religious_a adoration_n be_v duâ—_n pag._n 52.53_o etc._n etc._n §_o 2._o that_o that_o can_v be_v the_o true_a church_n which_o have_v wicked_a pastor_n pag._n â—6_n 57_o etc._n etc._n §_o 3._o he_o profess_v infidelity_n about_o the_o bless_a sacracrament_n pag._n 64.65_o etc._n etc._n §_o 4._o his_o gross_a ignorance_n further_o discover_v about_o the_o same_o pag._n 68_o 69·_fw-la etc._n etc._n §_o 5._o his_o extreme_a ignorance_n about_o satisfaction_n pag._n 72.73_o etc._n etc._n §_o 6._o his_o ignorance_n about_o the_o holy_a cross_n &_o water_n of_o jordan_n pag._n 77.78_o etc._n etc._n §_o 7._o his_o ignorance_n about_o tradition_n pag_n 83.84_o etc._n etc._n sect._n four_o d._n white_a his_o ignorance_n in_o holy_a scripture_n pag._n 86._o §_o 1._o he_o deny_v the_o text_n &_o context_n of_o scripture_n pag._n 87.88_o etc._n etc._n §_o 2._o he_o be_v force_v to_o go_v against_o christ_n express_a word_n pag._n 89.90_o etc._n etc._n §_o 3._o he_o be_v force_v to_o deny_v the_o creed_n pag._n 92.93_o etc._n etc._n §_o 4._o in_o answer_v scripture_n he_o contradict_v himself_o &_o grant_v the_o jesuit_n the_o question_n pag._n 95.96_o etc._n etc._n §_o 5._o in_o lieu_n of_o answer_v he_o confirm_v the_o jesuit_n argument_n pag._n 98.99_o etc._n etc._n §_o 6._o he_o send_v the_o jesuite_n to_o god_n for_o a_o answer_n pag._n 101.102_o etc._n etc._n §_o 7._o his_o innumerable_a gross_a impertinency_n in_o cypher_v &_o score_n of_o scripture_n pag._n 104.105_o etc._n etc._n §_o 8._o he_o cit_v scripture_n that_o make_v against_o he_o pag._n 108.109_o etc._n etc._n §_o 9_o scripture_n abuse_v &_o falsify_v pag._n 112.113_o etc._n etc._n the_o text_n of_o matth._n 24.24_o that_o even_o the_o elect_n shall_v be_v deceive_v be_v it_o possible_a by_o he_o most_o gross_o apply_v pag._n 116._o etc._n etc._n the_o text_n act._n 17.11_o about_o the_o beroean_n abuse_v pag._n 118.119_o etc._n etc._n the_o text_n 1._o joan._n 18._o if_o we_o say_v we_o have_v no_o sin_n etc._n etc._n falsify_v pag._n 120.121_o etc._n etc._n sect._n v._o his_o ignorance_n fraud_n &_o falsehood_n in_o allege_v father_n and_o all_o manner_n of_o author_n pag._n 125._o §_o 1._o seven_o testimony_n of_o s._n augustine_n about_o scripture_n &_o tradition_n falsify_v 127.128_o etc._n etc._n §_o 2._o seven_o testimony_n of_o other_o father_n falsify_v pag._n 134.135_o etc._n etc._n §_o 3._o foul_a calumniation_n &_o falsification_n of_o hosius_n bellarmine_n petrus_n à _fw-fr soto_n &_o bosius_n p._n 143.144_o etc._n etc._n §_o 4._o other_o father_n impudent_o falsify_v as_o if_o they_o do_v aver_v what_o they_o do_v most_o constant_o maintain_v &_o prove_v pag._n 150.151_o etc._n etc._n §_o 5._o gross_a imputation_n with_o manifest_a falsehood_n impute_v unto_o cardinal_n baronius_n pag._n 153.154_o etc._n etc._n content_n of_o the_o answer_n and_o rejoinder_n the_o preface_n to_o king_n james._n pag._n 3._o that_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v the_o only_a true_a church_n p._n 3._o a_o short_a treatise_n concern_v the_o resolution_n of_o faith_n for_o the_o more_o full_a clear_n of_o the_o ensue_a controversy_n about_o tradition_n scripture_n &_o the_o church_n pag._n 15._o §_o 1._o the_o protestant_a resolution_n of_o faith_n declare_v pag._n 15.16_o etc._n etc._n §_o 2._o the_o former_a resolution_n confute_v by_o six_o argument_n pag._n 16.17.18_o etc._n etc._n §_o 3._o concern_v the_o light_n of_o scripture_n pag._n 21.22_o etc._n etc._n ¶_o the_o second_o part_n of_o this_o treatise_n about_o the_o catholic_a resolution_n of_o faith_n pag._n 30._o §_o 1._o the_o first_o principle_n prove_v pag._n 30.31_o etc._n etc._n §_o 2._o the_o seeond_a principle_n demonstrate_v pag._n 32.33_o etc._n etc._n §_o 3._o the_o three_o principle_n prove_v pag._n 36.37_o etc._n etc._n §_o 4._o how_o the_o church_n tradition_n be_v prove_v infallible_a independent_o of_o scripture_n pag._n 38.39_o etc._n etc._n §_o 5._o the_o difference_n between_o prophetical_a and_o ordinary_a divine_a illumination_n by_o which_o protestant_n cavil_n be_v answer_v pag._n 41.42_o etc._n etc._n §_o 6._o the_o four_o principle_n prove_v pag._n 44.45_o etc._n etc._n the_o first_o ground_n §_o 1._o that_o a_o christian_a resolution_n of_o faith_n be_v build_v upon_o perpetual_a tradition_n derive_v by_o succession_n from_o the_o apostle_n pag._n 50.51_o etc._n etc._n §_o 2._o concern_v the_o sufficiency_n and_o clarity_n of_o scripture_n pag._n 61.62_o etc._n etc._n ¶_o how_o catholic_n grant_v the_o same_o sufficiency_n to_o be_v in_o scripture_n as_o protestant_n do_v and_o the_o true_a state_n of_o the_o question_n about_o the_o sufficiency_n of_o scripture_n and_o of_o tradition_n pag._n 63.64_o etc._n etc._n the_o second_o ground_n §_o 3._o that_o there_o be_v a_o visible_a church_n always_o in_o the_o world_n to_o who_o tradition_n man_n be_v to_o cleave_v that_o this_o church_n be_v one_o universal_a apostolical_a holy_a pag._n 70.71_o etc._n etc._n §_o 4._o the_o property_n of_o the_o church_n prove_v by_o matth._n 28.20_o pag._n 82.83_o etc._n etc._n §_o 5._o that_o the_o roman_a be_v the_o one_o holy_a catholic_a apostolical_a church_n from_o &_o by_o which_o we_o be_v to_o receive_v the_o tradition_n of_o christian_a doctrine_n pag._n 85.86_o etc._n etc._n ¶_o that_o the_o protestant_a church_n be_v not_o before_o luther_n pag._n 85.86_o etc._n etc._n ¶_o that_o the_o grecian_n be_v not_o protestant_n in_o essence_n pag._n 87._o ¶_o that_o the_o waldense_n be_v not_o protestant_n for_o essence_n and_o kind_n pag._n 88_o ¶_o that_o protestant_n not_o be_v able_a to_o clear_v themselves_o to_o be_v the_o visible_a church_n by_o tradition_n do_v vain_o appeal_v unto_o scripture_n for_o their_o doctrine_n pag._n 89.90_o etc._n etc._n §_o 6._o the_o conclusion_n of_o this_o matter_n show_v that_o protestant_n err_v fundamental_o pag._n 108.109_o etc._n etc._n the_o nine_o point_n i._o point_n about_o worship_n of_o image_n pag._n 123._o §_o 1._o worship_n of_o image_n consequent_a out_o of_o the_o principle_n of_o nature_n and_o christianity_n pag._n 125.126_o etc._n etc._n §_o
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send_v unto_o protestant_n and_o by_o they_o print_v respon_n 2._o de_fw-fr inuocatione_n sanctorum_fw-la they_o defend_v transubstantiation_n ibid._n resp_n 1._o c._n 13._o communion_n in_o one_o kind_n for_o the_o sick_a gilbert_n genebrard_n de_fw-fr ritibus_fw-la graecorum_n second_o concern_v primacy_n of_o jurisdiction_n they_o hold_v that_o christ_n do_v institute_v monarchical_a primacy_n in_o peter_n theophilact_n in_o cap._n 21._o joan._n that_o the_o roman_a bistop_n for_o many_o age_n lawful_o succeed_v peter_n in_o this_o primacy_n ignatius_n constantinopolitan_n epist._n ad_fw-la nicolaum_n primum_fw-la that_o the_o roman_a bishop_n lose_v this_o primacy_n for_o hold_v the_o procession_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n from_o god_n the_o son_n &_o that_o therefore_o this_o primacy_n be_v now_o in_o the_o patriarch_n of_o constantinople_n michael_n constant._n apud_fw-la sigeb_n in_o chron._n a_o 1064._o be_v this_o protestancy_n in_o substance_n three_o it_o be_v great_a 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they_o hold_v all_o minister_n to_o be_v damn_v that_o have_v rent_n and_o possession_n and_o that_o the_o church_n perish_v under_o sylvester_n and_o constantine_n through_o the_o poison_n of_o temporal_a good_n which_o cleargyman_n then_o begin_v to_o enjoy_v as_o they_o say_v against_o the_o law_n of_o god_n i_o be_o sure_a none_o that_o know_v protestant_n will_v think_v this_o doctrine_n of_o poverty_n and_o give_v away_o all_o to_o the_o poor_a to_o be_v the_o essence_n or_o so_o much_o as_o a_o accidence_n of_o their_o religion_n in_o respect_n of_o this_o their_o head-heresy_n about_o poverty_n the_o waldense_n be_v name_v the_o poorman_n of_o lion_n and_o be_v say_v by_o reynerius_n cite_v by_o the_o minister_n pag._n 130._o to_o have_v be_v ever_o since_o silvester_n or_o the_o apostle_n and_o that_o they_o be_v much_o applaud_v in_o the_o world_n to_o wit_n as_o i_o say_v only_o in_o regard_n of_o this_o heresy_n about_o poverty_n hold_v ancient_o by_o the_o heretic_n term_v apostolici_fw-la not_o in_o respect_n of_o other_o error_n or_o doctrine_n wherein_o they_o agree_v with_o protestant_n and_o so_o protestant_n labour_v in_o vain_a by_o waldensian_o and_o the_o apostolici_fw-la to_o bring_v their_o pedigree_n from_o the_o apostle_n beside_o the_o waldensian_o hold_v these_o anabaptisticall_a error_n which_o be_v set_v down_o by_o illyricus_n in_o catalogo_fw-la testium_fw-la pag._n 1502._o &_o seq_fw-la out_o of_o reynerius_n a_o author_n of_o those_o time_n who_o he_o term_n candidum_fw-la &_o sincerum_fw-la sincere_a and_o unpartial_a that_o child_n be_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v baptism_n be_v of_o no_o use_n for_o they_o see_v they_o do_v not_o believe_v that_o there_o be_v no_o difference_n betwixt_o bishopp_n and_o priest_n nor_o betwixt_o layman_n and_o priest_n that_o the_o apostle_n be_v mere_a layman_n that_o every_o layman_n that_o be_v virtuous_a be_v priest_n may_v consecrate_v preach_v administer_v sacrament_n that_o a_o woman_n pronounce_v the_o word_n in_o the_o vulgar_a tongue_n do_v consecrate_v yea_o transubstantiate_a bread_n into_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n that_o it_o be_v mortal_a sin_n to_o swear_v in_o any_o case_n that_o the_o magistrate_n secular_a and_o ecclesiastical_a be_v in_o mortal_a sin_n lose_v their_o office_n and_o that_o no_o man_n be_v to_o obey_v they_o indeed_o illyricus_n pag._n 1514._o &_o 1525._o in_o fine_a say_v that_o this_o last_o error_n be_v false_o lay_v to_o the_o charge_n of_o the_o waldensians_n by_o reynerius_n which_o he_o prove_v because_o aeneas_n silvius_n in_o his_o catalogue_n of_o their_o doctrine_n make_v no_o mention_n of_o this_o but_o he_o be_v gross_o deceive_v two_o way_n first_o because_o reynerius_n live_v in_o that_o time_n and_o be_v inquisitor_n can_v know_v their_o error_n better_a than_o silvius_n nor_o can_v we_o suspect_v his_o fidelity_n be_v as_o illyricus_n do_v acknowledge_v sincerus_fw-la &_o candidus_fw-la sincere_a and_o unpartial_a towards_o waldensian_o second_o aeneas_n silvius_n in_o his_o catalogue_n set_v down_o by_o illyricus_n even_o in_o that_o very_a pag._n 1525._o a_o little_a before_o the_o middle_n charge_v the_o waldensians_n express_o with_o this_o doctrine_n against_o magistracy_n qui_fw-la mortalis_fw-la culpae_fw-la reus_fw-la sit_fw-la eum_fw-la neque_fw-la saeculari_fw-la neque_fw-la ecclesiastica_fw-la dignitate_fw-la potiri_fw-la nec_fw-la parendum_fw-la ei_fw-la esse_fw-la final_o the_o waldensian_o hold_v it_o not_o necessary_a to_o profess_v their_o faith_n yea_o that_o they_o may_v deny_v it_o go_v to_o mass_n celebrate_v and_o do_v outward_a act_n of_o idolatry_n this_o even_a illyricus_n pag._n 1508._o do_v acknowledge_v to_o have_v be_v a_o fault_n in_o they_o but_o he_o say_v they_o may_v have_v be_v save_v by_o repentance_n this_o be_v a_o idle_a shift_n for_o how_o can_v they_o repent_v themselves_o of_o that_o which_o they_o hold_v not_o to_o be_v sin_n how_o can_v they_o be_v 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2._o that_o this_o worship_n be_v ever_o since_o the_o apostle_n in_o the_o church_n without_o beginning_n pag._n 142.143_o etc._n etc._n §_o 3._o the_o place_n of_o exodus_fw-la &_o deut._n with_o no_o probability_n urge_v against_o the_o worship_n of_o image_n by_o protestant_n that_o make_v they_o pag._n 154.155_o etc._n etc._n §_o 4._o inconvenience_n which_o may_v come_v by_o occasion_n of_o image_n easy_o prevent_v and_o their_o utility_n very_o great_a pag._n 158.159_o the_o second_o and_z third_z point_n ii_o pray_v &_o offer_v oblation_n to_o the_o b._n virgin_n mary_n iii_o worshipping_n &_o invocation_n of_o saint_n &_o angel_n pag._n 172._o §_o 1._o a_o eleven_o demonstration_n that_o the_o ancient_a christian_a church_n do_v ever_o hold_v invocation_n of_o saint_n as_o a_o matter_n of_o faith_n &_o religion_n pag._n 173.174_o etc._n etc._n §_o 2._o invocation_n of_o saint_n not_o to_o be_v dislike_v because_o not_o express_v in_o scripture_n pag._n 194._o §_o 3._o 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etc._n §_o 4._o the_o doctrine_n of_o satisfaction_n pag._n 358.359_o etc._n etc._n §_o 5._o work_n with_o reference_n unto_o the_o treasure_n of_o the_o church_n pag._n 362.363_o etc._n etc._n ¶_o the_o minister_n rail_v argument_n against_o the_o former_a doctrine_n censure_v pag._n 372.373_o etc._n etc._n the_o nine_o point_n ix_o the_o opinion_n of_o depose_v king_n &_o give_v away_o their_o kingdom_n by_o papal_a power_n whether_o direct_o or_o indirect_o pag._n 382._o ¶_o the_o minister_n fond_a cavil_v that_o jesuit_n honour_n not_o the_o king_n as_o soveraygne_n pag._n 383.384_o etc._n etc._n ¶_o his_o fond_a proof_n of_o his_o slander_n that_o jesuit_n hold_v singular_a opinion_n to_o the_o prejudice_n of_o king_n pa._n 385.386_o etc._n etc._n ¶_o his_o fondness_n in_o cavil_v at_o the_o jesuit_n word_n about_o the_o temporal_a sovereignty_n of_o pope_n pag._n 389.390_o etc._n etc._n ¶_o his_o miserable_a apology_n for_o protestant_n p._n 391.392_o etc._n etc._n ¶_o his_o 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etc._n the_o canonical_a authority_n of_o the_o scripture_n confirm_v in_o the_o apostle_n day_n be_v by_o succession_n of_o bishop_n &_o propagation_n of_o church_n place_v in_o a_o high_a throne_n of_o authority_n etc._n etc._n how_o direct_o be_v this_o testimony_n of_o s._n augustine_n against_o that_o which_o you_o will_v prove_v thereby_o how_o have_v tradition_n no_o credit_n or_o authority_n but_o from_o scripture_n if_o the_o scripture_n by_o successive_a tradition_n of_o bishop_n hand_n so_o hand_n from_o the_o apostle_n have_v get_v quoad_fw-la nos_fw-la in_o the_o persuasion_n of_o the_o christian_a world_n the_o high_a seat_n of_o divine_a authority_n to_o be_v honour_v as_o god_n word_n unto_o which_o every_o man_n must_v yield_v if_o this_o successive_a tradition_n on_o which_o as_o s._n augustine_n teach_v our_o persuasion_n about_o the_o authority_n of_o scripture_n depend_v be_v make_v weak_a &_o fallible_a by_o protestant_n how_o shall_v the_o scripture_n be_v able_a to_o keep_v her_o credit_n and_o authority_n in_o our_o faith_n very_o it_o can_v except_o christian_n will_v cease_v to_o rely_v on_o the_o authority_n of_o god_n reveal_v and_o on_o doctrine_n deliver_v by_o the_o succession_n of_o bishop_n &_o hunt_v after_o divine_a and_o apostolical_a scripture_n by_o the_o send_v and_o smell_v of_o the_o doctrine_n deliver_v therein_o as_o you_o do_v likewise_o by_o addition_n of_o the_o particle_n only_o you_o falsify_v the_o say_n of_o lit_fw-fr of_o pag._n 95._o lin_v 31._o &_o in_o marg._n lit_fw-fr paschasius_fw-la for_o whereas_o he_o promittit_fw-la he_o paschas_fw-la in_o matth._n c._n 28._o cum_fw-la electis_fw-la semper_fw-la adfuturum_fw-la se_fw-la promittit_fw-la say_v christ_n promise_v to_o be_v with_o his_o elect_n all_o day_n until_o the_o consummation_n of_o the_o world_n you_o cite_v he_o as_o say_v only_o with_o the_o elect_a more_o gross_o in_o the_o same_o place_n you_o falsify_v druthmarus_n for_o whereas_o matth._n whereas_o in_o cap._n 28._o matth._n he_o say_v christ_n be_v with_o the_o reprobate_n by_o the_o presence_n of_o his_o godhead_n but_o with_o the_o elect_a in_o another_o manner_n you_o make_v he_o say_v christ_n promise_v to_o be_v only_o with_o the_o elect_a contrary_a to_o his_o meaning_n who_o teach_v that_o the_o presence_n and_o perpetual_a assistance_n of_o our_o saviour_n be_v so_o unite_v unto_o his_o church_n &_o her_o pastor_n that_o they_o may_v not_o err_v but_o still_o teach_v all_o that_o he_o command_v but_o that_o presence_n whereof_o that_o text_n proper_o speak_v be_v not_o only_o afford_v unto_o the_o elect_n but_o unto_o wicked_a man_n for_o the_o salvation_n of_o all_o worthy_a communicant_n as_o yourself_o 14._o yourself_o pag._n 52._o lin_v 14._o affirm_v you_o 105._o you_o see_v pag._n 105._o rail_v bitter_o against_o the_o jesuit_n for_o prove_v that_o your_o protestant_a church_n can_v be_v the_o true_a church_n nor_o part_n thereof_o because_o you_o sever_v yourselves_o from_o the_o roman_a church_n and_o do_v not_o join_v unto_o any_o preexistent_a christian_a society_n of_o pastor_n but_o apart_v yourselves_o from_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o whole_a world_n for_o this_o his_o argument_n you_o rail_v against_o the_o roman_a church_n for_o a_o whole_a leaf_n pag._n 106._o and_o 107._o where_o thus_o you_o conclude_v your_o foul_a foliall_a inuective_n they_o since_o their_o synod_n of_o trent_n have_v proceed_v from_o evil_a to_o worse_o this_o worse_o the_o minister_n in_o proof_n of_o all_o this_o bring_v nothing_o only_o in_o the_o margin_n he_o name_v the_o massacre_n of_o paris_n be_v that_o do_v by_o the_o father_n of_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n do_v that_o prove_v obscure_v and_o outface_v of_o truth_n have_v not_o the_o protestant_n then_o slay_v be_v traitor_n against_o their_o king_n be_v not_o the_o king_n inform_v of_o their_o plot_n to_o murdâ—r_v he_o his_o mother_n his_o brethren_n &_o the_o cheief_a of_o his_o noble_n if_o to_o prevent_v his_o own_o instant_a death_n the_o king_n do_v by_o martial_a law_n without_o juridical_a form_n proceed_v against_o know_a rebel_n iâ—_n this_o such_o a_o thing_n as_o you_o may_v say_v it_o surpass_v all_o perfidious_a stratagem_n and_o immane_a cruelty_n of_o infidel_n what_o idle_a eloquence_n be_v this_o obscure_v &_o outface_v the_o truth_n with_o forgery_n and_o sophistry_n they_o have_v conspire_v against_o kingdom_n and_o state_n they_o have_v surpass_v profess_v infidel_n in_o perfidious_a stratagem_n and_o immane_a cruelty_n and_o whereas_o they_o expel_v we_o by_o excommunication_n and_o chase_v we_o away_o from_o they_o by_o persecution_n yet_o this_o roman_a advocate_n tax_v we_o with_o schism_n &_o apostasy_n never_o remember_v what_o 1._o what_o lib._n 5._o the_o baptism_n c._n 1._o s._n augustine_n long_o since_o deliver_v the_o sacrilege_n of_o schism_n be_v then_o commit_v when_o there_o be_v no_o just_a cause_n of_o separation_n thus_o by_o long_o continue_v fierce_a bitter_a blast_n of_o false_a reproach_n you_o dirive_v your_o unwary_a reader_n upon_o the_o hide_a rock_n of_o a_o falsifyed_a sentence_n of_o s._n aug._n as_o though_o this_o most_o divine_a doctor_n have_v insinuate_v the_o lawfullnes_n of_o revolt_n &_o separation_n from_o all_o christian_a church_n what_o can_v be_v more_o false_a he_o dispute_v against_o the_o donatist_n who_o have_v sever_v themselves_o from_o the_o christian_a world_n pretend_v that_o caecilian_a bishop_n of_o carthage_n &_o other_o catholic_n have_v give_v up_o the_o holy_a bibles_n to_o the_o fire_n s._n aug._n do_v convince_v they_o of_o schism_n two_o way_n first_o because_o this_o pretence_n be_v it_o true_a be_v not_o just_a for_o there_o can_v be_v no_o just_a cause_n of_o separation_n from_o the_o whole_a world_n and_o of_o begin_v a_o new_a distinct_a christian_a church_n these_o be_v his_o word_n etc._n word_n augustin_n ep_v 48._o ad_fw-la vincent_n fieri_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la ut_fw-la aliqui_fw-la iustam_fw-la causam_fw-la habeant_fw-la qua_fw-la communionem_fw-la svam_fw-la separent_fw-la à _fw-la communione_fw-la orbis_n terrarum_fw-la eamue_fw-la appellent_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la christi_fw-la quòd_fw-la se_fw-la just_a ab_fw-la omnium_fw-la gentium_fw-la communione_fw-la separaverint_fw-la ibid._n nos_fw-la ideo_fw-la certi_fw-la sumus_fw-la neminem_fw-la se_fw-la à _fw-la communione_fw-la omnium_fw-la gentium_fw-la iuâ—â—è_fw-la separare_fw-la potuisse_fw-la etc._n etc._n we_o be_v certain_a that_o none_o can_v just_o separate_v themselves_o from_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o whole_a world_n and_o again_o it_o be_v no_o way_n possible_a that_o any_o shall_v have_v reason_n to_o separate_v themselves_o from_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o whole_a world_n and_o so_o term_v themselves_o the_o church_n because_o upon_o just_a cause_n they_o have_v divide_v themselves_o from_o the_o society_n of_o all_o nation_n thus_o s._n aug._n what_o can_v be_v more_o direct_a against_o that_o doctrine_n for_o which_o you_o cite_v he_o or_o more_o efficacious_a to_o conclude_v that_o you_o protestant_n be_v guilty_a of_o damnable_a schism_n second_o say_v
that_o pope_n stephen_n shall_v lest_o of_o all_o man_n admit_v that_o heretic_n who_o cleave_v not_o to_o peter_n sea_n can_v valide_o baptize_v for_o his_o true_a word_n by_o you_o falsify_v and_o curtal_v be_v these_o and_o citata_fw-la and_o quòd_fw-la una_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la semel_fw-la à _fw-la christo_fw-la supra_fw-la petram_fw-la solidata_fw-la est_fw-la hinc_fw-la intelligi_fw-la potest_fw-la quòd_fw-la soli_fw-la petro_n christus_fw-la dixerit_fw-la quaecumque_fw-la ligaveris_fw-la super_fw-la terram_fw-la etc._n etc._n atque_fw-la adeo_fw-la in_o hac_fw-la parte_fw-la iustè_fw-la indignor_fw-la quod_fw-la qui_fw-la successionem_fw-la petri_n se_fw-la habere_fw-la contendit_fw-la supra_fw-la quem_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la fundamenta_fw-la posita_fw-la sunt_fw-la alius_fw-la petras_n inducit_fw-la etc._n etc._n firmil_n epist_n citata_fw-la herein_o i_o do_v just_o fret_v against_o the_o open_a and_o manifest_a folly_n of_o stephen_n that_o see_v he_o do_v so_o glory_n of_o the_o dignity_n of_o his_o bishopric_n and_o stand_v so_o much_o upon_o his_o be_v the_o successor_n of_o peter_n on_o who_o the_o foundation_n of_o the_o church_n be_v lay_v that_o he_o will_v bring_v in_o two_o rock_n and_o the_o building_n of_o many_o church_n while_o by_o his_o authority_n he_o do_v maintain_v that_o in_o they_o church_n alien_a from_o peter_n sea_n or_o rock_n true_a baptism_n be_v give_v thus_o firmilian_a whence_o it_o be_v clear_a that_o he_o do_v not_o revile_v s._n stephen_n in_o respect_n of_o his_o claim_v primacy_n and_o authority_n by_o succession_n from_o peter_n as_o you_o make_v he_o to_o your_o purpose_n to_o do_v but_o that_o be_v the_o successor_n of_o peter_n he_o urge_v this_o his_o primacy_n against_o anabaptisme_n whereas_o he_o shall_v rather_o in_o firmilian_a his_o opinion_n have_v be_v firmilian_a be_v stephanus_n qui_fw-la per_fw-la successionem_fw-la petri_n cathedram_fw-la habere_fw-la praedicat_fw-la nullo_n adversus_fw-la haereticoâ—_n zelo_fw-la excitatur_fw-la ibid._n firmilian_a zealous_a in_o deny_v the_o validity_n of_o baptism_n give_v by_o heretic_n who_o ever_o impugn_v the_o unity_n of_o peter_n chair_n whereas_o your_o adversary_n say_v that_o the_o scripture_n to_o they_o that_o know_v tradition_n be_v abundant_o sufficient_a but_o without_o tradition_n not_o against_o this_o 16._o this_o pag._n 37._o lin_v 5._o &_o pag._n 42._o lin_v 16._o you_o urge_v this_o say_n of_o vincentius_n lyrinensis_n 2._o lyrinensis_n vincent_n lyr._fw-la adu_fw-la hâ—r_n c._n 2._o the_o canon_n of_o the_o scripture_n be_v perfect_a and_o sufficient_a in_o itself_o for_o all_o matter_n yea_o more_o than_o sufficient_a very_o this_o be_v sufficient_a &_o more_o than_o sufficient_a to_o show_v the_o beggary_n of_o your_o religion_n otherwise_o this_o testimony_n so_o impertinent_a will_v not_o be_v by_o you_o and_o your_o fellow_n so_o perpetual_o not_o perpetual_o john_n white_a defence_n pag._n â—70_n wotton_n field_n whitaker_n and_o who_o not_o allege_v for_o lyrinensis_n do_v not_o say_v that_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o scripture_n be_v abundant_o sufficient_a but_o only_o the_o same_o be_v suppose_v in_o a_o objection_n or_o question_n move_v unto_o he_o in_o answer_v whereto_o lyrinensis_n do_v show_v that_o this_o suppose_a sufficiency_n be_v not_o such_o but_o of_o necessity_n the_o rule_n of_o tradition_n must_v be_v join_v therewith_o i_o know_v you_o be_v not_o ignorant_a of_o the_o text_n you_o have_v read_v it_o but_o read_v it_o i_o pray_v you_o once_o again_o &_o therein_o read_v the_o conviction_n of_o your_o falsehood_n some_o etc._n some_o forsitan_fw-la requirat_fw-la aliquis_fw-la câ—m_fw-la sit_fw-la perfectus_fw-la etc._n etc._n may_v ask_v see_v the_o canon_n of_o the_o scripture_n be_v perfect_a and_o sufficient_a unto_o itself_o in_o all_o thing_n what_o need_n be_v there_o that_o the_o authority_n of_o ecclesiastical_a interpretation_n be_v join_v therewith_o because_o all_o do_v not_o understand_v the_o holy_a scripture_n in_o the_o same_o sense_n &_o this_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o depth_n or_o difficulty_n thereof_o that_o the_o same_o passage_n be_v take_v this_o way_n by_o one_o and_o that_o way_n by_o another_o so_o that_o as_o many_o dissonant_n interpretation_n may_v seem_o be_v bring_v thereof_o as_o there_o be_v interpreter_n etc._n etc._n hence_o in_o regard_n of_o the_o manifold_a wind_n and_o turn_n of_o error_n it_o be_v est_fw-la be_v multum_fw-la necesse_fw-la est_fw-la very_a necessary_a that_o the_o line_n of_o prophetical_a and_o apostolical_a doctrine_n be_v square_v according_a to_o the_o norma_fw-la the_o ecclesiastici_fw-la &_o catholici_fw-la sensus_fw-la norma_fw-la rule_n of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a sense_n in_o this_o testimony_n two_o thing_n be_v affirm_v contrary_a to_o the_o purpose_n you_o bring_v it_o first_o that_o the_o sufficiency_n of_o scripture_n be_v not_o so_o full_a nor_o so_o perfect_a as_o be_v suppose_v in_o the_o question_n the_o scripture_n be_v deep_a dark_a difficile_a that_o set_v tradition_n aside_o in_o lieu_n of_o one_o certain_a assure_a truth_n one_o may_v find_v therein_o manifold_a wind_n and_o turn_n of_o error_n second_o that_o in_o this_o respect_n the_o scripture_n can_v be_v the_o only_a rule_n of_o faith_n but_o it_o be_v necessary_a and_o very_a necessary_a that_o beside_o scripture_n we_o allow_v the_o rule_n of_o church-tradition_n or_o exposition_n you_o know_v this_o as_o you_o do_v with_o what_o conscience_n can_v you_o cite_v this_o place_n for_o the_o sole-sufficiency_n of_o scripture_n &_o so_o many_o time_n cite_v it_o take_v a_o thing_n false_o suppose_v in_o the_o question_n for_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o author_n pag_n 44._o lin_v 24._o to_o prove_v the_o perspicuity_n of_o the_o scripture_n in_o itself_o without_o the_o light_n of_o tradition_n for_o all_o necessary_a point_n you_o cite_v the_o word_n of_o irenaeus_n all_o the_o 46._o the_o irenaeus_n l._n 2._o cap._n 46._o scripture_n both_o prophetical_a &_o evangelicall_a be_v clear_a without_o ambiguity_n and_o may_v indifferent_o be_v hear_v of_o all_o man_n be_v it_o possible_a you_o dare_v in_o defence_n of_o your_o fancy_n cite_v this_o place_n in_o this_o manner_n according_a to_o which_o it_o be_v false_a even_o in_o your_o own_o fancy_n for_o do_v not_o you_o yourself_o write_v pag._n 35._o lin_v 18._o we_o acknowledge_v that_o many_o particular_a text_n and_o passage_n of_o holy_a scripture_n be_v obscure_a and_o hard_a to_o be_v understand_v how_o then_o be_v all_o scripture_n both_o prophetical_a and_o evangelicall_a clear_a without_o any_o ambiguity_n indifferent_o unto_o all_o man_n be_v you_o also_o so_o dull_a of_o hear_v as_o not_o to_o perceive_v the_o jar_n betwixt_o this_o sentence_n of_o s._n irenaeus_n and_o the_o sentence_n of_o the_o father_n which_o after_o he_o present_o you_o produce_v s._n hierome_n it_o be_v the_o manner_n of_o scripture_n to_o join_v that_o which_o be_v manifest_a after_o that_o which_o be_v obscure_a s._n augustine_n plain_n place_n be_v find_v in_o scripture_n to_o expound_v and_o open_v the_o dark_a &_o hard_a if_o this_o be_v true_a how_o be_v all_o the_o scripture_n clear_a without_o ambiguity_n yea_o s._n irenaeus_n in_o the_o very_a next_o chapter_n scripture_n chapter_n iren._n l._n 2._o c._n 47._o ut_fw-la in_o rebuâ—_n creatiâ—_n quaedam_fw-la deo_fw-la subiacent_a quaedam_fw-la &_o in_fw-la nostram_fw-la venerunt_fw-la scientiam_fw-la sic_fw-la &_o in_o 〈◊〉_d scripture_n say_v that_o some_o thing_n in_o scripture_n be_v clear_a and_o manifest_a which_o we_o must_v learn_v and_o believe_v other_o be_v dark_a and_o obscure_a the_o interpretation_n of_o which_o we_o must_v remit_v unto_o god_n very_o these_o argument_n convince_v you_o to_o have_v falsify_v irenaeus_n as_o you_o have_v indeed_o &_o very_o gross_o for_o he_o do_v not_o say_v all_o scripture_n be_v clear_a without_o ambiguity_n as_o you_o 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will_v blush_v to_o confirm_v your_o slander_n with_o such_o silly_a and_o ridiculous_a proof_n other_o father_n impudent_o falsify_v as_o if_o they_o do_v deny_v what_o they_o do_v most_o constant_o maintain_v and_o prove_v §._o 4._o you_o be_v so_o bold_a in_o your_o falsehood_n as_o you_o dare_v cite_v the_o father_n for_o your_o fancy_n where_o ex_fw-la professo_fw-la even_o of_o purpose_n they_o dispute_v against_o it_o and_o prove_v the_o contrary_n pag_n 85_o lin_v 26._o you_o say_v the_o gift_n of_o do_v miracle_n be_v never_o promise_v in_o the_o scripture_n to_o be_v perpetual_a and_o be_v long_o since_o cease_v augustin_n retract_v l._n 1._o c._n 13._o now_o s._n augustine_n do_v in_o that_o place_n say_v and_o prove_v the_o contrary_a to_o wit_n that_o though_o miracle_n be_v not_o now_o ordinary_o annex_v unto_o the_o office_n of_o teach_v and_o administration_n of_o sacrament_n as_o they_o be_v in_o the_o primitive_a church_n yet_o miracle_n be_v do_v and_o frequent_o 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105._o the_o minister_n say_v if_o we_o can_v demonstrate_v we_o maintain_v the_o religion_n which_o the_o holy_a apostle_n teach_v this_o alone_a be_v sufficient_a to_o prove_v we_o be_v the_o true_a church_n though_o we_o can_v not_o nominate_v any_o visible_a church_n of_o our_o religion_n out_o of_o history_n though_o the_o preacher_n &_o professor_n thereof_o be_v never_o see_v nor_o can_v be_v name_v thus_o disorderly_o they_o place_v the_o cart_n before_o the_o horse_n they_o know_v that_o their_o religion_n be_v supernatural_a truth_n before_o they_o be_v sure_a that_o it_o be_v either_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n or_o of_o the_o apostle_n or_o of_o god_n the_o four_o argument_n four_o it_o be_v great_a blindenes_n and_o frantic_a and_o field_n appendix_n part_n 2._o pag._n 20._o do_v acknowledge_v that_o they_o who_o see_v not_o this_o light_n of_o scripture_n and_o yet_o pretend_v it_o must_v be_v brain_n sick_a and_o frantic_a want_v of_o common_a sense_n for_o 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of_o james_n and_o about_o the_o sense_n of_o these_o word_n this_o be_v my_o body_n and_o yet_o they_o amarae_fw-la they_o john_n white_a say_v they_o know_v the_o sense_n of_o scripture_n to_o be_v divine_a by_o their_o own_o light_n shine_v and_o by_o their_o own_o show_v itself_o in_o they_o as_o sweetness_n be_v know_v by_o it_o own_o taste_n caluin_n lib._n 1._o institut_fw-la c._n 7._o §._o 2._o in_o fine_a non_fw-la obscuriorem_fw-la veritatis_fw-la suae_fw-la seipsum_fw-la scriptura_fw-la ultâ—ò_fw-la praese_n fert_fw-la quà m_fw-la coloris_fw-la suire_v albae_fw-la &_o nigrae_fw-la saporis_fw-la res_fw-la suave_n &_o amarae_fw-la challenge_v resolution_n in_o these_o matter_n by_o the_o light_n of_o the_o spirit_n make_v they_o to_o see_v manifest_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o thing_n and_o to_o discern_v true_a scripture_n in_o text_n and_o sense_n from_o false_a as_o easy_o as_o the_o light_n of_o the_o sun_n from_o darkness_n what_o can_v be_v more_o fond_a and_o ridiculous_a the_o five_o argument_n five_o if_o no_o man_n be_v save_v without_o divine_a and_o supernatural_a faith_n and_o if_o supernatural_a faith_n be_v resolve_v not_o by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n but_o by_o the_o resplendent_a verity_n of_o the_o doctrine_n what_o hope_v of_o salvation_n can_v wise_a and_o prudent_a man_n expect_v in_o the_o protestant_a church_n without_o divine_a illumination_n make_v they_o to_o see_v the_o truth_n of_o thing_n believe_v they_o can_v have_v supernatural_a faith_n nor_o be_v save_v if_o protestant_n say_v true_a wise_a &_o prudent_a man_n can_v be_v so_o fond_a as_o to_o believe_v that_o they_o see_v manifest_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o thing_n they_o believe_v by_o christian_a faith_n as_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o trinity_n of_o the_o incarnation_n of_o the_o real_a presence_n of_o the_o resurrection_n of_o the_o dead_a and_o other_o like_a article_n believe_v what_o church_n what_o protestant_n be_v force_v by_o this_o argument_n 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elsewhere_o orthodox_n 392._o deride_v it_o say_v a_o blind_a man_n can_v judge_v of_o colour_n &_o a_o rude_a and_o ignorant_a person_n be_v less_o able_a to_o examine_v controversye_n and_o deep_a point_n of_o religion_n and_o again_o ibid._n pag._n 393._o we_o do_v not_o set_v a_o blind_a horse_n before_o other_o nor_o suffer_v any_o vulgar_a person_n to_o be_v his_o own_o carver_n in_o receive_v and_o refuse_v public_a doctrine_n and_o the_o same_o do_v he_o teach_v in_o this_o reply_n pag._n 301._o yea_o luther_n tom._n 1._o germ._n wiâ—temb_n come_v in_o gal._n fol._n 29._o §._o 3_o say_v non_fw-la quivis_fw-la habet_fw-la intellectum_fw-la &_o sensum_fw-la ut_fw-la de_fw-la controversijs_fw-la fidel_n inter_fw-la nos_fw-la &_o papistas_n tutò_fw-la &_o christianè_fw-la iudicare_fw-la possit_fw-la how_o they_o shall_v these_o be_v save_v but_o by_o simple_o believe_v the_o tradition_n of_o ancestor_n hand_n from_o hand_n deliver_v unto_o they_o common_a people_n shall_v not_o 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faith_n whereby_o we_o believe_v the_o history_n of_o scripture_n and_o mystery_n of_o our_o religion_n ibid._n pag._n 161._o lin_v 5._o wherefore_o he_o say_v that_o the_o difference_n betwixt_o protestant_n and_o we_o catholic_n be_v only_o in_o two_o point_n first_o that_o they_o require_v not_o only_o dogmatic_a faith_n but_o also_o that_o this_o be_v a_o fiducial_a assent_n that_o be_v join_v with_o hope_n pag._n 163._o lin_v 1._o but_o we_o forsooth_o hold_v justification_n by_o dogmatic_a faith_n only_o and_o by_o such_o faith_n as_o be_v in_o devil_n and_o do_v not_o require_v that_o the_o dogmatical_a or_o intellectual_a assent_n be_v also_o fiducial_a that_o be_v join_v with_o hope_n pag._n 168._o lin_v 2._o second_o that_o we_o hold_v that_o a_o man_n can_v be_v certain_a by_o faith_n that_o he_o be_v just_a but_o protestant_n hold_v the_o contrary_a yet_o he_o say_v pag._n 167._o lin_v 20._o that_o there_o be_v very_o small_a difference_n if_o any_o at_o all_o betwixt_o 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and_o the_o apostolical_a church_n practise_v it_o whereas_o we_o can_v prove_v by_o scripture_n that_o the_o apostle_n do_v warrant_n or_o practice_v the_o set_n up_o of_o image_n this_o they_o say_v with_o great_a confidence_n but_o any_o substantial_a proof_n of_o this_o their_o say_n i_o can_v never_o read_v or_o hear_v the_o testimony_n they_o bring_v in_o this_o behalf_n search_v the_o scripture_n let_v his_o word_n dwell_v plentiful_o among_o you_o etc._n etc._n be_v insufficient_a to_o prove_v a_o direct_a and_o express_v precept_n or_o practice_n of_o translate_n scripture_n into_o the_o vulgar_a tongue_n catholic_n on_o the_o contrary_a side_n though_o they_o boast_v not_o of_o scripture_n as_o know_v that_o nothing_o be_v so_o clear_o set_v down_o in_o it_o but_o malapert_a error_n may_v contend_v against_o it_o with_o some_o show_n of_o probability_n yet_o have_v scripture_n much_o more_o clear_a and_o express_v then_o any_o that_o protestant_n can_v bring_v for_o 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decease_v many_o year_n before_o be_v the_o author_n of_o salvation_n unto_o they_o that_o have_v lose_v themselves_o by_o their_o sloth_n patrocinatur_fw-la sloth_n homil._n 2._o in_o psal._n 50._o david_n mortuus_fw-la est_fw-la sed_fw-la merita_fw-la eius_fw-la vigent_fw-la homo_fw-la mortuus_fw-la vivo_fw-la patrocinatur_fw-la david_n be_v dead_a but_o his_o merit_n live_v the_o dead_a man_n be_v the_o patron_n of_o the_o live_n remittit_fw-la live_n serm._n de_fw-fr virtute_fw-la &_o vitio_fw-la ad_fw-la mortuos_fw-la confugiens_fw-la propter_fw-la eos_fw-la peccata_fw-la remittit_fw-la for_o their_o sake_n that_o be_v dead_a god_n forgive_v sin_n s._n ephrem_fw-la merear_fw-la ephrem_fw-la ephem_n serm_n de_fw-fr lau._n ss_z martyrum_fw-la ut_fw-la vestris_fw-la precibus_fw-la saluari_fw-la merear_fw-la assist_v i_o o_o holy_a martyr_n before_o the_o throne_n of_o the_o divine_a majesty_n that_o by_o your_o prayer_n i_o may_v be_v save_v s._n augustine_n svi_fw-la augustine_n 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in_o encomio_fw-la ad_fw-la beatam_fw-la virginem_fw-la mariam_n dum_fw-la hic_fw-la manemus_fw-la nos_fw-la protegas_fw-la supplicamus_fw-la &_o ut_fw-la nobis_fw-la parcat_fw-la filius_fw-la tuus_fw-la &_o deus_fw-la perennibus_fw-la tuis_fw-la precibus_fw-la o_o unspoted_a virgin_n mother_n thy_o son_n and_o god_n pardon_v we_o our_o sin_n by_o the_o incessancy_n of_o thy_o pray_v for_o us._n and_o can_v the_o holy_a father_n think_v worship_n and_o invocation_n of_o saint_n with_o confidence_n in_o their_o merit_n not_o to_o be_v a_o matter_n of_o faith_n which_o they_o so_o constant_o teach_v and_o commend_v to_o be_v a_o mean_n of_o salvation_n and_o remission_n of_o sin_n the_o five_o demonstration_n that_o which_o the_o father_n do_v practice_v in_o their_o great_a need_n and_o in_o the_o chief_a act_n of_o religion_n when_o the_o use_n of_o true_a christian_a devotion_n be_v most_o necessary_a that_o they_o hold_v as_o assure_v and_o certain_a devotion_n &_o exercise_v of_o 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pray_v unto_o saint_n as_o that_o most_o holy_a council_n of_o chalcedon_n holy_a flavian_n live_v with_o god_n the_o bless_a martyr_n pray_v for_o us._n as_o also_o do_v s._n augustine_n suis._n augustine_n augustine_n lib._n 5._o the_o baptism_n contr_n donatist_n cap._n 2._o adiunet_n nos_fw-la cyprianê°_n orationibus_fw-la suis._n enter_v into_o the_o discussion_n of_o a_o most_o difficile_a controversy_n prefix_v this_o devotion_n holy_a cyprian_a help_v we_o with_o his_o prayer_n in_o the_o very_a act_n of_o martyrdom_n when_o they_o be_v present_o to_o go_v out_o of_o this_o world_n they_o do_v invocate_v saint_n as_o do_v saint_n acyndimus_fw-la final_o the_o whole_a christian_a church_n at_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n still_o have_v use_v the_o same_o as_o appeareth_z by_o all_o ancient_a chrysostome_n ancient_a the_o roman_a that_o of_o jerusalem_n the_o aethiopian_a anaphora_fw-la syriaca_fw-la that_o of_o milan_n s._n basill_n s._n chrysostome_n liturgy_n that_o 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of_o martyr_n in_o confirmation_n whereof_o the_o testimony_n of_o s._n basill_n nazianzen_n nissen_n chrysostome_n ambrose_n hierome_n augustine_n prudentius_n paulinus_n gregory_n the_o great_a gregory_n turonensis_n and_o other_o may_v be_v plentiful_o allege_v the_o seven_o demonstration_n what_o the_o father_n teach_v as_o a_o necessary_a supernatural_a duty_n of_o christian_a humility_n they_o teach_v as_o a_o matter_n of_o faith_n the_o father_n
theodos._n nor_o as_o the_o sanctifier_n of_o our_o soul_n dwell_v in_o the_o same_o by_o grace_n hierom_n in_o proverb_n c._n 2._o nullum_fw-la invocare_fw-la idâ—â—_n intus_fw-la orando_fw-la vocare_fw-la nisi_fw-la deum_fw-la debemus_fw-la three_o that_o the_o priest_n do_v not_o invocate_v saint_n by_o direct_a prayer_n in_o the_o lyturgy_n of_o the_o mass_n which_o be_v a_o sacrifice_n the_o devotion_n thereof_o be_v to_o be_v direct_v to_o god_n only_o augustine_n lib._n 22._o the_o civet_n c._n 10._o carthag_n 4._o c._n 23._o four_o that_o our_o friend_n that_o be_v decease_v do_v not_o now_o hear_v we_o in_o the_o familiar_a manner_n they_o be_v wont_v converse_v with_o us._n hierom._n ad_fw-la heliodor_n de_fw-fr obitu_fw-la nepotiam_fw-la whatsoever_o i_o write_v seem_v to_o be_v dead_a &_o 〈◊〉_d because_o nepotian_n do_v not_o hear_v it_o to_o wit_n iâ—_n visible_a manner_n delight_v therein_o and_o applaud_v the_o same_o as_o he_o be_v accustom_v to_o do_v in_o his_o life-time_n 6._o life-time_n hence_o appear_v the_o impertinency_n of_o the_o minister_n that_o so_o often_o urge_v this_o place_n of_o s._n hierome_n pag._n 29.2_o lin_v 22._o orthodox_n pa._n 54._o li._n 6._o five_o that_o they_o do_v not_o know_v what_o be_v do_v in_o this_o world_n by_o their_o natural_a force_n augustine_n de_fw-fr cura_fw-la pro_fw-la mortuis_fw-la c._n 16._o per_fw-la divinam_fw-la potentiam_fw-la martyr_n vivorum_fw-la rebus_fw-la intersunt_fw-la quoniam_fw-la defuncti_fw-la per_fw-la naturam_fw-la propriam_fw-la vivorum_fw-la rebus_fw-la interest_n non_fw-la possunt_fw-la six_o speak_v unto_o some_o decease_a person_n they_o make_v a_o if_o whether_o they_o hear_v they_o or_o not_o because_o they_o speak_v unto_o such_o as_o they_o know_v not_o certain_o to_o be_v saint_n nazianzen_n orat_fw-la 3._o in_o julian._n praise_n julian._n the_o minister_n here_o say_v do_v not_o the_o father_n reckon_v constantine_n to_o be_v in_o joy_n and_o glory_n and_o yet_o gregory_n nazianzen_n use_v a_o apostrophe_n to_o he_o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d hear_v o_o thou_o spirit_n of_o great_a constantine_n if_o thou_o have_v any_o notion_n of_o these_o thing_n i_o answer_v you_o falsify_v the_o text_n of_o nazianzen_n both_o in_o the_o greek_a &_o in_o your_o english_a translation_n for_o his_o word_n be_v hear_v o_o thou_o spirit_n of_o great_a constantius_n if_o thou_o have_v any_o notion_n of_o these_o thing_n yea_o that_o we_o may_v see_v you_o corrupt_v the_o text_n wilful_o &_o against_o your_o conscience_n even_o in_o this_o very_a reply_n &_o in_o this_o point_n â—f_a controversy_n you_o cite_v the_o same_o pag._n 359._o light_v a._n in_o this_o manner_n audi_fw-la etiam_fw-la 〈◊〉_d constantij_fw-la magni_fw-la anima_fw-la siquis_fw-la mortuus_fw-la sensus_fw-la est_fw-la hear_v o_o thou_o spirit_n of_o â—reat_a constantius_n etc._n etc._n now_o constantius_n be_v a_o arian_n and_o a_o persecutor_n of_o catholic_n unto_o his_o die_a day_n though_o on_o his_o death_n bed_n it_o be_v say_v â—e_v make_v some_o kind_n of_o repentance_n hence_o s._n gregory_n nazianzen_n may_v doubt_v â—f_o his_o be_v in_o glory_n and_o say_v hear_v if_o thou_o have_v any_o notion_n of_o these_o â—â—inges_n the_o same_o father_n in_o his_o funeral_n oration_n for_o his_o sister_n gorgonia_n where_o he_o say_v sister_n admit_v of_o this_o oration_n in_o lieu_n of_o many_o funeral_n offering_n if_o this_o reward_n be_v give_v to_o holy_a soul_n to_o feel_v these_o thing_n he_o do_v not_o doubt_n of_o she_o hear_v his_o prayer_n but_o only_o whether_o she_o receive_v a_o humane_a natural_a content_n in_o that_o his_o affectuous_a panigyricall_a make_v in_o her_o praise_n this_o truth_n suppose_v i_o can_v but_o conceive_v that_o your_o majesty_n profess_v so_o much_o love_n to_o the_o first_o primitive_a age_n may_v deceive_v satisfaction_n about_o this_o point_n the_o cause_n of_o protestant_n dislike_n be_v weak_a and_o not_o to_o be_v 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serm_n de_fw-fr cruse_n sive_fw-la expresso_fw-la dei_fw-la mandato_fw-la cry_v for_o express_v scripture_n express_v command_n oâ—_n the_o write_a word_n yet_o now_o they_o be_v 〈◊〉_d go_v 89._o go_v wotton_n in_o his_o trial_n pag._n 89._o from_o that_o principle_n as_o they_o be_v exceed_o angry_a 228._o angry_a john_n white_a in_o his_o defence_n pag._n 228._o with_o we_o that_o wâ—_n shall_v think_v that_o any_o of_o they_o be_v 〈◊〉_d any_o time_n broacher_n of_o such_o a_o absurdity_n wherefore_o in_o their_o write_a book_n whâ—â—_n they_o teach_v in_o pulpit_n i_o know_v not_o they_o 6._o they_o d._n field_n of_o the_o church_n l._n 4._o c._n 20._o whitaker_n de_fw-fr sacra_fw-la scrip._n cont_n 1._o q._n 6._o disclaim_v from_o express_a scripture_n and_o think_v it_o a_o sufficient_a warrant_n of_o a_o christâ—â—â—_n custom_n that_o the_o same_o be_v scripture_n be_v note_v that_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o be_v express_v in_o scripture_n and_o another_o to_o be_v ground_v 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concern_v the_o cross_n in_o baptism_n the_o minister_n say_v pag._n 302._o that_o it_o be_v
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