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A65706 The fallibility of the Roman Church demonstrated from the manifest error of the 2d Nicene & Trent Councils, which assert that the veneration and honorary worship of images is a tradition primitive and apostolical. Whitby, Daniel, 1638-1726. 1687 (1687) Wing W1728; ESTC R8848 85,812 92

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instruct_v the_o people_n to_o teach_v they_o diligent_o that_o the_o image_n of_o christ_n the_o mother_n of_o god_n and_o other_o saint_n be_v especial_o to_o be_v have_v and_o retain_v in_o temple_n and_o that_o due_a honour_n and_o veneration_n be_v to_o be_v give_v to_o they_o because_o the_o honour_n tender_v to_o they_o be_v refer_v to_o the_o prototype_n so_o that_o by_o the_o image_n which_o they_o kiss_v before_o which_o they_o uncover_v their_o head_n and_o prostrate_v themselves_o they_o worship_v christ_n and_o venerate_v the_o saint_n who_o similitude_n they_o be_v and_o this_o say_v they_o be_v do_v 25._o do_v j●xta_fw-la catholicae_fw-la &_o apostolicae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la usum_fw-la à_fw-la primaevis_fw-la christianae_n religionis_fw-la temporibus_fw-la receptum_fw-la sanctorumque_fw-la patrum_fw-la consensionem_fw-la sess_n 25._o according_a to_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o catholic_n and_o apostolic_a church_n receive_v from_o the_o first_o age_n of_o the_o christian_a faith_n and_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o holy_a father_n father_n 2._o on_o the_o other_o hand_n the_o council_n of_o constantinople_n consist_v of_o 338_o bishop_n assemble_v in_o the_o year_n 754_o declare_v that_o 508._o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d council_n nic._n 2._o p._n 452._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 508._o this_o evil_a invention_n of_o image_n neither_o have_v its_o be_v from_o the_o tradition_n of_o christ_n or_o his_o apostle_n nor_o of_o the_o holy_a father_n and_o have_v forbid_v all_o christian_n to_o worship_v any_o or_o to_o place_v a_o image_n in_o the_o church_n or_o in_o their_o private_a house_n they_o conclude_v unanimous_o thus_o 532._o thus_o ibid._n p._n 532._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d this_o be_v the_o faith_n of_o the_o apostle_n this_o be_v the_o faith_n of_o the_o father_n this_o be_v the_o faith_n of_o the_o orthodox_n the_o council_n of_o frankford_n consist_v of_o 300_o bishop_n assemble_v by_o charles_n the_o great_a out_o of_o italy_n germany_n and_o france_n a._n d._n 794._o declare_v that_o the_o 27._o the_o quia_fw-la ut_fw-la hoc_fw-la facerent_fw-la ab_fw-la apostolis_n sibi_fw-la traditum_fw-la mentiebantur_fw-la lib._n carol._n l._n 2._o c._n 25_o 27._o second_o nicene_n council_n have_v offend_v in_o two_o thing_n 1._o in_o decree_a that_o image_n shall_v be_v worship_v and_o 2._o in_o say_v false_o that_o this_o be_v deliver_v to_o they_o from_o the_o apostle_n they_o add_v that_o 1._o that_o relictis_fw-la priscorum_fw-la patrum_fw-la traditionibus_fw-la qui_fw-la imagine_v non_fw-la colere_fw-la sanxerunt_fw-la novas_fw-la conari_fw-la &_o insolita_n ecclesiae_fw-la consuetudines_fw-la infer_v praesat_fw-la in_o lib._n 1._o leave_v the_o tradition_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n who_o decree_v that_o image_n shall_v not_o be_v worship_v they_o endeavour_v to_o bring_v into_o the_o church_n new_a and_o unusual_a custom_n that_o they_o endeavour_v to_o bring_v into_o christian_a 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altar_n they_o frame_v this_o calumny_n the_o more_o effectual_o to_o draw_v they_o off_o from_o her_o communion_n 75._o communion_n dicebatur_fw-la illo_fw-la tempore_fw-la venturum_fw-la esse_fw-la paulum_fw-la &_o macarium_fw-la qui_fw-la interessent_fw-la sacrificio_fw-la ut_fw-la cum_fw-la altaria_fw-la solent_fw-la niter_fw-la aptarentur_fw-la proferren_a illi_fw-la imaginem_fw-la quam_fw-la primo_fw-la in_o altari_fw-la ponerent_fw-la sic_fw-la sacrificium_fw-la offerretur_fw-la hoc_fw-la cum_fw-la acciperent_fw-la aures_fw-la &_o animi_fw-la perculsi_fw-la sunt_fw-la ut_fw-la omnis_fw-la qui_fw-la haec_fw-la audierat_fw-la diceret_fw-la qui_fw-la inde_fw-la gustat_fw-la de_fw-la sacro_fw-la gustat_fw-la optat._n l._n 3._o p._n 75._o that_o the_o catholic_n paulus_n and_o macarius_n will_v bring_v a_o image_n and_o place_n it_o on_o the_o altar_n whilst_o the_o sacrifice_n be_v offer_v this_o rumour_n startle_v the_o faithful_a for_o when_o the_o fame_n of_o it_o be_v spread_v abroad_o the_o ear_n and_o mind_n of_o all_o man_n say_v optatus_n be_v much_o trouble_v at_o it_o and_o all_o that_o hear_v it_o begin_v thus_o to_o speak_v whosoever_o taste_v of_o any_o thing_n from_o thence_o do_v taste_v of_o a_o forbid_a thing_n whence_o we_o with_o 31._o with_o masius_n in_o josh_n cap._n 8._o v._n 31._o masius_n a_o learned_a romanist_n observe_v how_o much_o the_o ancient_a christian_n do_v detest_v the_o sight_n of_o any_o image_n on_o the_o altar_n that_o be_v how_o much_o they_o do_v detest_v the_o present_a practice_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o rome_n 2_o observe_v the_o answer_n of_o the_o christian_n of_o those_o time_n unto_o this_o calumny_n they_o do_v not_o say_v true_a it_o be_v we_o do_v set_v picture_n upon_o our_o altar_n and_o that_o not_o only_o for_o ornament_n and_o memory_n but_o for_o veneration_n also_o and_o we_o do_v well_o to_o do_v so_o and_o suitable_o to_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n so_o that_o you_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v trouble_v at_o it_o or_o fright_v from_o our_o communion_n by_o it_o which_o be_v the_o only_a answer_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n can_v make_v to_o this_o objection_n and_o which_o the_o father_n ofthat_o they_o shall_v be_v make_v make_v 4._o but_o 2_o these_o father_n do_v with_o one_o voice_n declare_v that_o by_o this_o precept_n the_o christian_n be_v forbid_v to_o worship_n to_o bow_v down_o or_o to_o give_v that_o age_n will_v have_v make_v have_v they_o then_o practise_v as_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n do_v now_o but_o they_o do_v utter_o deny_v the_o thing_n reject_v it_o with_o detestation_n and_o abhorrence_n optatus_n do_v confess_v that_o ibid._n that_o et_fw-la rectè_fw-la dictum_fw-la erat_fw-la si_fw-la talem_fw-la famam_fw-la similis_fw-la veritas_fw-la sequeretur_fw-la at_o ubi_fw-la ventum_fw-la est_fw-la à_fw-la supradictis_fw-la nihil_fw-la tale_n visum_fw-la est_fw-la nihil_fw-la viderunt_fw-la oculi_fw-la christiani_n quod_fw-la 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other_o place_n they_o affirm_v that_o god_n do_v only_o here_o forbid_v 584._o forbid_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d act._n 7._o p._n 556_o 584._o the_o worship_n of_o they_o with_o latria_n the_o worship_v of_o image_n 412._o image_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d act._n 5._o p._n 355_o 376_o 412._o as_o god_n but_o not_o the_o worship_n of_o they_o with_o doulia_fw-la and_o often_o do_v observe_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o 248._o or_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d act._n 7._o p._n 584._o act._n 4._o p._n 248._o outward_a worship_n by_o salute_v or_o bow_v of_o the_o body_n be_v not_o appropriate_v to_o god_n but_o be_v a_o honour_n oft_o give_v to_o the_o creature_n and_o therefore_o be_v such_o worship_n as_o may_v be_v give_v to_o s._n image_n and_o sure_o it_o may_v be_v charitable_o presume_v that_o the_o father_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n be_v as_o hearty_o concern_v for_o the_o instruction_n of_o their_o flock_n and_o be_v as_o able_a to_o perceive_v as_o roman_a catholic_n that_o seem_a opposition_n which_o the_o veneration_n of_o image_n bear_v to_o this_o commandment_n and_o yet_o we_o do_v not_o find_v in_o all_o their_o write_n for_o five_o hundred_o year_n one_o caution_n to_o inform_v the_o people_n that_o this_o law_n concern_v not_o that_o image-worship_n they_o be_v suppose_v to_o have_v practise_v and_o derive_v down_o unto_o posterity_n clemens_n alexandrinus_n origen_n tertullian_n and_o other_o writer_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n make_v frequent_a mention_n of_o this_o precept_n especial_o when_o they_o discourse_v against_o that_o image-worship_n which_o the_o heathen_n practise_v but_o they_o afford_v not_o one_o jota_n to_o distinguish_v that_o worship_n they_o condemn_v in_o the_o heathen_n from_o that_o which_o they_o be_v say_v to_o have_v then_o give_v to_o the_o image_n of_o christ_n and_o of_o his_o saint_n or_o to_o except_v they_o from_o the_o censure_n they_o so_o general_o pass_v upon_o all_o 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of_o any_o thing_n in_o heaven_n or_o earth_n in_o the_o next_o word_n thou_o shall_v not_o worship_v they_o he_o show_v the_o cause_n of_o that_o prohibition_n be_v the_o removal_n of_o idolatry_n and_o therefore_o say_v he_o the_o 22._o the_o sic_fw-la cherubin_n &_o seraphim-certe_a simplex_fw-la ornamentum_fw-la long_o diversas_fw-la habendo_fw-la causas_fw-la ab_fw-la idololatriae_fw-la conditione_n ob_fw-la quam_fw-la similitudo_fw-la prohibetur_fw-la contr_n marc._n l._n 2._o c._n 22._o cherubim_n seem_v not_o here_o forbid_v because_o they_o be_v not_o make_v for_o worship_n but_o for_o ornament_n clemens_n of_o alexandria_n to_o the_o same_o instance_n answer_v that_o 564._o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d strom._n l._n 5._o c._n 564._o the_o cherubim_n be_v the_o symbol_n of_o angel_n glorify_v not_o the_o image_n of_o saint_n for_o he_o who_o have_v advise_v they_o to_o make_v no_o grave_a idol_n will_v not_o himself_o have_v make_v the_o image_n of_o saint_n or_o holy_a thing_n 2_o the_o frame_n of_o the_o brazen_a serpent_n by_o moses_n be_v also_o plead_v in_o favour_n of_o image-worship_n in_o the_o second_o 109._o second_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d act._n 5._o p._n 356_o 357._o act._n 2._o p._n 108_o 109._o nicene_n council_n now_o to_o this_o tertullian_n answer_v that_o this_o be_v do_v by_o 5._o by_o non_fw-fr in_o idololatriae_fw-la titulum_fw-la sed_fw-la in_o figuram_fw-la remedii_fw-la contr._n marc._n l._n 2._o c._n 22._o non_fw-la ad_fw-la derogatioen_fw-mi legis_fw-la sed_fw-la ad_fw-la exemplarium_fw-la causae_fw-la suae_fw-la l._n the_o idol_n c._n 5._o moses_n not_o as_o a_o image_n of_o idolatry_n but_o as_o a_o figure_n of_o their_o remedy_n that_o it_o be_v do_v not_o in_o derogation_n to_o the_o law_n but_o as_o a_o figure_n of_o the_o cross_n 322._o cross_n just_a m._n dial_n cum_fw-la tryph._n p._n 321_o 322._o justin_n martyr_n in_o like_a manner_n say_v that_o it_o be_v a_o figure_n of_o the_o bless_a jesus_n who_o be_v to_o save_v we_o from_o the_o bite_n of_o the_o old_a serpent_n for_o otherwise_o say_v he_o how_o can_v we_o reconcile_v it_o with_o the_o command_n of_o the_o same_o god_n to_o make_v no_o kind_n of_o image_n tertullian_n speak_v thus_o to_o the_o christian_a 5._o christian_a ne_fw-fr facias_fw-la adversus_fw-la legem_fw-la simulacrum_fw-la aliquod_fw-la niti_fw-la &_o tibi_fw-la deus_fw-la jusserit_fw-la de_fw-fr idol_n cap._n 5._o if_o thou_o observe_v the_o same_o god_n thou_o have_v his_o law_n make_v no_o smilitude_n if_o thou_o respect_v the_o precept_n of_o the_o similitude_n that_o afterward_o be_v make_v imitate_v thou_o moses_n make_v no_o image_n against_o the_o law_n unless_o god_n also_o do_v command_v thou_o 3_o to_o the_o objection_n make_v by_o 93._o by_o de_fw-fr fide_fw-la orth._n cap._n 93._o damascen_n and_o before_o he_o by_o celsus_n that_o god_n make_v man_n after_o his_o own_o image_n origen_n reply_v that_o 389._o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d l._n 7._o p._n 376._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ibid._n vid._n l._n 8._o p._n 389._o it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o be_v a_o image_n of_o god_n another_o thing_n to_o be_v make_v after_o his_o image_n and_o that_o this_o image_n of_o god_n be_v preserve_v in_o the_o rational_a soul_n make_v like_o in_o virtue_n to_o to_o he_o not_o in_o the_o lineament_n of_o the_o body_n these_o be_v the_o exception_n make_v against_o this_o law_n which_o the_o ancient_a father_n diligent_o take_v notice_n of_o and_o show_v not_o to_o be_v breach_n of_o or_o contradiction_n to_o this_o precept_n whereas_o have_v then_o the_o christian_n be_v accustom_v to_o worship_n or_o bow_v down_o before_o the_o image_n of_o christ_n and_o of_o the_o bless_a virgin_n and_o the_o saint_n depart_v this_o practice_n will_v have_v minister_v more_o weighty_a scruple_n to_o employ_v their_o pen_n and_o therefore_o we_o have_v reason_n to_o conclude_v their_o practice_n give_v they_o no_o occasion_n to_o answer_v those_o objection_n which_o romanist_n be_v so_o industrious_a to_o solve_v and_o they_o who_o be_v concern_v about_o lesser_a matter_n never_o mention_n mention_n 3._o but_o then_o if_o we_o consider_v that_o these_o father_n who_o be_v so_o profound_o silent_a in_o the_o particular_n now_o mention_v so_o unconcerned_a to_o show_v that_o any_o veneration_n of_o any_o image_n whatsoever_o be_v any_o way_n consistent_a with_o this_o precept_n be_v very_o loud_a and_o frequent_a in_o declare_v as_o many_o of_o they_o do_v that_o this_o commandment_n render_v the_o very_a art_n of_o make_v image_n unlawful_a to_o the_o christian_a that_o with_o one_o voice_n they_o say_v that_o it_o forbid_v all_o outward_a veneration_n and_o bow_v down_o to_o any_o image_n whatsoever_o and_o that_o they_o do_v as_o full_o contradict_v and_o overthrow_v all_o the_o distinction_n shift_n and_o excuse_n of_o the_o romanist_n whereby_o they_o do_v endeavour_v to_o avoid_v the_o condemnation_n of_o this_o law_n i_o say_v when_o we_o consider_v this_o we_o can_v have_v the_o least_o suspicion_n leave_v that_o they_o shall_v practice_v in_o their_o action_n or_o in_o mind_n approve_v what_o they_o in_o word_n so_o full_o have_v condemn_v and_o 1._o we_o find_v that_o many_o of_o they_o have_v declare_v express_o that_o god_n by_o this_o commandment_n forbid_v the_o very_a make_n of_o a_o image_n and_o render_v the_o very_a art_n of_o paint_v and_o engrave_v image_n unlawful_a to_o the_o christian_n clemens_n of_o alexandria_n style_v it_o 41_o it_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 30._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 41_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o evil_a art_n and_o add_v that_o we_o christian_n plain_o be_v forbid_v to_o exercise_v this_o deceitful_a art_n the_o prophet_n have_v say_v thou_o shall_v not_o make_v the_o similitude_n of_o any_o thing_n in_o heaven_n or_o in_o earth_n origen_n declare_v that_o 321._o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d
the_o word_n of_o this_o commandment_n i_o conceive_v it_o can_v be_v reasonable_o think_v to_o be_v forbid_v in_o any_o other_o precept_n there_o be_v only_o this_o which_o speak_v of_o image-worship_n and_o if_o it_o be_v forbid_v in_o no_o precept_n of_o the_o moral_a law_n it_o necessary_o will_v follow_v that_o it_o be_v lawful_o perform_v by_o the_o heathen_n 4_o do_v they_o pretend_v that_o idol_n only_o be_v forbid_v to_o be_v adore_v in_o this_o precept_n but_o not_o image_n this_o indeed_o be_v the_o conceit_n of_o romish_a doctor_n and_o of_o the_o second_o nicene_n council_n but_o this_o also_o be_v plain_o opposite_a unto_o the_o general_a tradition_n of_o all_o the_o father_n of_o the_o church_n who_o constant_o observe_v what_o be_v as_o evident_a in_o the_o commandment_n as_o word_n can_v be_v viz._n that_o it_o forbid_v not_o only_a idol_n to_o be_v worship_v but_o also_o the_o similitude_n of_o any_o thing_n whatsoever_o as_o beside_o the_o express_a testimony_n of_o 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