lord_n rebuke_v every_o proud_a tongue_n that_o dare_v attempt_v so_o high_a despite_n against_o god_n and_o his_o truth_n the_o jesuite_n proceed_v lâ—c_a here_o the_o devil_n disputation_n against_o the_o private_a mass_n which_o i_o think_v good_a to_o lay_v down_o thus_o at_o large_a 17â—_n large_a reply_v pag._n 17â—_n here_o the_o jesuite_n begin_v to_o triumph_v but_o upon_o what_o reason_n the_o precedent_a discourse_n will_v declare_v yet_o his_o intent_n be_v pious_a that_o my_o poor_a delude_a countryman_n may_v understand_v whither_o his_o new_a master_n do_v lead_v he_o ibid._n he_o ibid._n the_o owl_n may_v leave_v preach_v unless_o it_o be_v to_o night_n bird_n for_o the_o jesuite_n may_v assure_v himself_o that_o this_o most_o reverend_a lord_n will_v never_o be_v so_o deceive_v movere_fw-la deceive_v ruffin_n hist_o eccles_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 11._o dolis_fw-la apud_fw-la ignorantes_fw-la locus_fw-la est_fw-la scientibus_fw-la vero_fw-la dolum_fw-la intendere_fw-la 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atque_fw-la commendat_fw-la wherein_o christ_n be_v pretend_v real_o to_o be_v sacrifice_v this_o be_v never_o in_o the_o ancient_a church_n much_o less_o triumph_v therein_o and_o although_o the_o jesuite_n will_v have_v it_o ancient_a yet_o it_o be_v not_o bear_v in_o the_o father_n time_n possit_fw-la time_n erasmus_n de_fw-fr concord_n eccles_n versus_fw-la sinem_fw-la sunt_fw-la qui_fw-la in_o missa_fw-la commâ—nionem_fw-la requirant_fw-la sic_fw-la fateor_fw-la a_o christo_fw-la suis_fw-la institutum_fw-la &_o ita_fw-la olim_fw-la consuevit_fw-la observari_fw-la casâ—ander_n consult_v art_n 24._o §._o de_fw-fr iteratione_n pag._n 223._o certain_o ex_fw-la tota_fw-la canonis_fw-la compositione_n manifestè_fw-la apparet_fw-la totam_fw-la illâ—â—â—ysticam_fw-la in_fw-la qua_fw-la canon_n adhibebatur_fw-la actionem_fw-la vel_fw-la publicam_fw-la vel_fw-la certe_fw-la inter_fw-la plures_fw-la semper_fw-la celebratam_fw-la suisse_fw-la quod_fw-la si_fw-la â—odie_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d queat_fw-la facile_fw-la verus_fw-la â—ius_fw-la intellectus_fw-la restitui_fw-la possit_fw-la but_o bring_v into_o the_o church_n by_o the_o decay_n of_o devotion_n on_o the_o people_n part_n charitas_fw-la part_n erasmus_n de_fw-fr amab_n concord_n ecclesiae_fw-la verum_fw-la id_fw-la quo_fw-la minus_fw-la fiat_fw-la haud_fw-la stat_fw-la per_fw-la sacerdotes_fw-la sed_fw-la per_fw-la laices_fw-la in_fw-la quibus_fw-la hâ—u_fw-la nimium_fw-la refrixit_fw-la charitas_fw-la which_o defection_n it_o have_v still_o nourish_v the_o word_n sacrifice_n indeed_o be_v in_o use_n among_o the_o father_n though_o calvin_n think_v it_o be_v abuse_v neither_o do_v they_o or_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n thereby_o hold_v it_o a_o real_a sacrifice_v of_o christ_n but_o a_o commemoration_n of_o his_o death_n semel_fw-la death_n lombard_n sent._n lib._n 4._o dist_n 12._o par_fw-fr 2._o quaeritur_fw-la si_fw-mi quod_fw-la gerit_fw-la sacerdos_fw-la proprie_fw-la dicatur_fw-la sacrificium_fw-la vel_fw-la 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they_o and_o you_o a_o unmeasurable_a distance_n intervallum_fw-la distance_n calvin_n lib._n devera_fw-la eccles_n reform_v extat_fw-la in_o tractat._n theolog_fw-la calvini_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 389._o utrumque_fw-la illis_fw-la concedo_fw-la veteres_fw-la non_fw-la mâ—do_fw-la sacriâ—iciâ—â—oce_fw-la abuser_n esse_fw-la sed_fw-la etiam_fw-la caeremoniâ_fw-la verum_fw-la sireputemus_fw-la quantum_fw-la a_o veterum_fw-la corruptelâ_fw-la distet_fw-la quae_fw-la nunc_fw-la abipsis_fw-la fucatur_fw-la â—â—pietas_fw-la immensum_fw-la est_fw-la ferè_fw-la intervallum_fw-la and_o therefore_o the_o jesuite_n abuse_v their_o adversary_n in_o make_v they_o to_o impute_v that_o to_o the_o father_n which_o they_o know_v these_o never_o hold_v whereby_o the_o jesuit_n may_v see_v how_o vain_a he_o be_v in_o make_v we_o to_o be_v enemy_n of_o this_o mystery_n when_o we_o only_o oppose_v their_o popish_a innovation_n and_o defile_n of_o so_o sacred_a a_o institution_n and_o whereas_o the_o 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〈◊〉_d romana_fw-la athanasius_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d hist_o cap._n 〈…〉_o s._n 〈◊〉_d basil_n &_o augustine_n style_v thâ—se_a writing_n â—â—ving_v his_o counterfeit_a calixius_n at_o rome_n make_v these_o book_n canonical_a it_o be_v plain_a that_o they_o be_v so_o term_v in_o respect_n of_o other_o corrupt_a writing_n which_o be_v read_v in_o the_o church_n at_o that_o time_n which_o practice_n be_v except_v against_o by_o the_o three_o council_n of_o carthage_n 〈◊〉_d as_o it_o be_v urge_v by_o the_o jesuite_n wherein_o it_o be_v decree_v that_o nothing_o shall_v be_v read_v in_o the_o church_n under_o the_o name_n of_o divine_a scripture_n and_o i_o think_v you_o will_v not_o conceive_v this_o inhibition_n have_v any_o relation_n to_o any_o of_o those_o book_n we_o call_v apocryphal_a they_o be_v never_o condemn_v to_o be_v read_v by_o the_o church_n beside_o bellarmine_n tell_v we_o the_o title_n of_o divine_a â—â—_o give_v by_o most_o 〈◊〉_d and_o most_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o the_o prayer_n of_o 〈◊〉_d the_o 3_o and_o 4._o of_o 〈◊〉_d the_o 3._o and_o 4._o of_o 〈◊〉_d and_o the_o book_n of_o pastorâ—_n â—_z etc._n etc._n and_o the_o call_n of_o 〈◊〉_d prophetical_a scripture_n by_o s._n ambrose_n be_v to_o like_a effect_n it_o be_v give_v to_o the_o four_o book_n of_o eâ—â—ras_n which_o the_o jesuite_n will_v not_o have_v canonical_a scripture_n though_o it_o be_v lift_v up_o with_o as_o great_a a_o testimony_n from_o that_o father_n revelatione_fw-la father_n sixtus_n seneâ—_n bibl._n sancta_fw-la lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr esdâ—â—_n lib._n 3._o &_o 4._o divus_o ambrose_n etiam_fw-la quartum_fw-la librum_fw-la putat_fw-la editum_fw-la ab_fw-la ipso_fw-la esdra_n non_fw-la sine_fw-la divinâ_fw-la revelatione_fw-la as_o the_o book_n of_o toby_n which_o he_o be_v willing_a to_o justify_v but_o leave_v toby_n with_o his_o dog_n the_o jesuite_n have_v some_o further_a proof_n for_o the_o macehabee_n they_o be_v allege_v say_v he_o as_o other_o canonical_a book_n of_o scripture_n be_v 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and_o therefore_o there_o be_v reason_n sufficient_a that_o our_o jesuite_n shall_v 〈◊〉_d doâ—â—â—_n his_o 〈◊〉_d whichupon_o so_o vain_a a_o confidence_n heâ—_n have_v erect_v and_o acknowledge_v their_o change_n although_o they_o have_v doâ—â—_n it_o upon_o so_o good_a a_o ground_n as_o the_o embrace_n of_o some_o private_a judgement_n three_o or_o four_o hâ—â—dreth_v yâ—â—es_n after_o christ_n leave_v the_o stream_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n &_o â—he_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o the_o same_o thus_o the_o charge_n appâ—â—â—â—th_v to_o be_v 〈◊〉_d &_o not_o 〈◊〉_d as_o the_o jesuit_n hope_v to_o have_v prove_v it_o that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v leâ—â—_n the_o gâ—â—â—rall_a practice_n of_o the_o â—â—â—cient_a church_n and_o have_v imbracâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d private_a 〈◊〉_d not_o for_o love_v of_o their_o person_n but_o 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d themselves_o they_o find_v some_o shelter_n 〈◊〉_d their_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d sâ—â—ing_v he_o can_v declare_v they_o scripture_n by_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d neither_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o ancient_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d all_o be_v sure_a if_o we_o can_v manifest_v that_o 〈◊〉_d book_n hold_v now_o 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o church_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o contrary_a sentence_n by_o the_o â—â—cient_a church_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d all_o his_o skill_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d say_v the_o 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d thâ—â—_n euâ—â—_n the_o church_n of_o god_n do_v 〈…〉_o 〈…〉_o before_o the_o church_n declare_v they_o for_o canonical_a by_o 〈◊〉_d authority_n 2d_o authority_n reply_v pag_n 2d_o the_o jesuit_n must_v tell_v we_o what_o he_o meâ—â—â—th_v by_o the_o church_n declare_v they_o by_o public_a authority_n for_o if_o he_o understand_v a_o general_a council_n it_o be_v idle_a for_o they_o never_o come_v to_o be_v so_o â—â—_o yâ—_z canus_n loc_fw-la theol._n l._n â—_o c._n â—â—_o cyprianus_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o expositione_n symboli_fw-la â—osdem_fw-la sex_n libros_fw-la patrum_fw-la anctoritate_fw-la a_o quibus_fw-la se_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d quod_fw-la idâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d ciâ—_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—â—ordium_n cuâ—â—que_fw-la diligeâ—ter_fw-la de_fw-fr omnibus_fw-la exploraverat_fw-la omni_fw-la investigatione_n comperit_fw-la hos_fw-la libâ—â—â—_n esse_fw-la a_o veteris_fw-la instrumenti_fw-la be_o in_fw-la psalmum_fw-la â—â—â—_o sed_fw-la &_o i_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d cyril_n 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d caâ—_n â—â—_o audacious_a in_o the_o primitive_a time_n as_o to_o claim_v the_o privilege_n to_o â—â—eepe_v into_o the_o canon_n beside_o he_o be_v as_o foâ—d_v in_o the_o consequent_a that_o they_o have_v make_v no_o change_n herein_o from_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o 〈◊〉_d church_n unless_o we_o can_v show_v that_o the_o ancient_a church_n of_o god_n do_v give_v judgement_n or_o sentenâ—â—_n contrary_a to_o their_o trent_n declaration_n in_o a_o general_a council_n for_o if_o this_o be_v good_a reason_n the_o council_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d have_v 〈◊〉_d the_o 3._o &_o 4._o book_n of_o esdras_n pastor_n their_o decretal_a epistle_n gregory_n siâ—tus_n yea_o what_o not_o &_o plead_v in_o the_o same_o manner_n that_o they_o have_v make_v no_o change_n they_o never_o be_v in_o your_o judgement_n i_o think_v condemn_v by_o the_o public_a authority_n of_o any_o general_a council_n in_o the_o ancient_a catholic_a church_n that_o do_v give_v judgement_n or_o sentence_n conâ—â—ry_o thereunto_o but_o if_o the_o church_n may_v be_v say_v to_o give_v â—â—â—_o judgement_n against_o the_o book_n of_o judith_n toby_n and_o the_o 〈◊〉_d by_o keep_v they_o out_o of_o the_o canoâ—_n as_o no_o doubt_n â—â—_o may_v practise_v be_v the_o best_a declareâ—_n of_o man_n judgement_n it_o shall_v be_v manifest_v sufficient_o that_o they_o have_v long_a 〈◊〉_d receive_v their_o doom_n for_o first_o they_o be_v always_o difâ—â—â—â—med_v in_o regard_n of_o the_o canon_n &_o rule_n of_o faith_n 〈◊〉_d that_o the_o jesuit_n have_v not_o produce_v one_o private_a 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v plain_a and_o convince_a for_o almost_o â—â—â—_o year_n 〈◊〉_d christ_n second_o in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d catalogue_n
jesuite_n make_v this_o good_a in_o his_o own_o particular_a calling_n bibling_n babble_v â—â—_o babble_v reply_v pag._n â—â—_o we_o know_v in_o this_o sense_n every_o mean_a may_v be_v despise_v not_o only_a stephen_n â—4_n stephen_n act_n 7._o â—4_n and_o paul_n invaserâ—t_fw-la paul_n act_n 28._o 24._o socrates_n hist_v eccles_n l._n 1._o c_o 6._o sabinus_n qui_fw-la haerefis_fw-la macedonianâ—â—_n princeps_fw-la est_fw-la dediâ—â—_n operâ_fw-la his_fw-la refragatur_fw-la immo_fw-la vero_fw-la choose_fw-la qui_fw-la nicaeae_fw-la coacti_fw-la crant_fw-la impetitos_fw-la &_o 〈◊〉_d vocat_fw-la 〈◊〉_d de_fw-fr vita_fw-la constantini_n l._n 2._o c._n 71._o magis_fw-la magisque_fw-la lie_fw-la accrevit_fw-la &_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d provincias_fw-la mali_fw-la illius_fw-la imperus_fw-la invaserâ—t_fw-la but_o christ_n himself_o what_o counsel_n ever_o choke_v heretic_n but_o they_o croak_v afterward_o â—_o it_o be_v sufficient_a if_o the_o scriptum_n est_fw-fr may_v stupefy_v a_o devil_n 7._o devil_n math._n 4._o 4._o 7._o amaze_v a_o pharisee_n deâ—eiverit_fw-la pharisee_n 〈◊〉_d 17._o â—_o â—_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d eccles_n l._n 1._o c._n â—_o cum_fw-la amplius_fw-la â—recenti_fw-la episcopi_fw-la â—unam_fw-la candemque_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d &_o 〈◊〉_d &_o exquisitis_fw-la legis_fw-la devinâ—â—_n testimoniis_fw-la vera_fw-la fides_fw-la esse_fw-la confirmatur_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d victus_fw-la ab_fw-la â—â—_o peâ—ituâ—_n deâ—eiverit_fw-la convict_v a_o arian_n â—_o consume_v antichrist_n 8._o antichrist_n 2._o thess_n 2._o 8._o in_o the_o effect_n or_o judgement_n of_o other_o what_o they_o themselves_o conceive_v hereof_o be_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n the_o rule_n be_v the_o rule_n though_o a_o perverse_a heretic_n can_v be_v make_v to_o acknowledge_v it_o thus_o say_v the_o jesuite_n we_o may_v easy_o espy_v the_o reason_n why_o our_o answerer_n refuse_v to_o stand_v to_o the_o verdict_n of_o either_o church_n council_n or_o father_n admit_v only_a scripture_n for_o the_o judge_n of_o his_o cause_n 33_o cause_n reply_v pag._n 33_o indeed_o by_o this_o place_n of_o tertullian_n we_o may_v easy_o espy_v it_o be_v the_o same_o reason_n that_o move_v the_o ancient_a father_n to_o urge_v the_o general_a tradition_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n against_o certain_a heretic_n of_o their_o time_n which_o persuade_v the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n to_o make_v use_n of_o the_o like_a weapon_n against_o the_o jesuite_n in_o regard_n papist_n as_o ancient_a heretic_n shift_v off_o the_o scripture_n many_o time_n by_o addition_n subtraction_n depravation_n adulterous_a sense_n corrupt_a style_n &c_n &c_n but_o to_o charge_v this_o most_o reverend_a lord_n with_o refuse_v to_o stand_v to_o the_o verdict_n of_o either_o church_n counsel_n or_o father_n etc._n etc._n be_v one_o of_o the_o jesuite_n truth_n he_o refuse_v they_o indeed_o as_o judge_n of_o our_o faith_n as_o the_o absolute_a rule_n seclusis_fw-la sacris_fw-la litaris_fw-la so_o do_v your_o own_o facta_fw-la own_o marsilius_n def_n pa._n pa._n 2._o c._n 28._o quas_fw-la vero_fw-la ipsorum_fw-la auctoritate_fw-la propria_fw-la prae_fw-la ter_z scripturam_fw-la protulerunt_fw-la sententias_fw-la scripturae_fw-la sive_fw-la canoni_fw-la consonas_fw-la recipiam_fw-la quas_fw-la vero_fw-la dissonas_fw-la reverenter_fw-la abjiciam_fw-la non_fw-la tamen_fw-la aliter_fw-la quam_fw-la auctoritate_fw-la scripturae_fw-la cvi_fw-la semper_fw-la innitar_n aquinas_n 1._o part_n sum_fw-la q._n 1._o be_v 8._o auctoritatibus_fw-la autem_fw-la canonicae_fw-la scripturae_fw-la utitur_fw-la propriè_fw-la &_o ex_fw-la necessitate_v argumentando_fw-la auctoritatibus_fw-la autem_fw-la aliorum_fw-la doctorum_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la quasi_fw-la arguendo_fw-la ex_fw-la proprijs_fw-la sed_fw-la probabi_fw-la litter_n innititur_fw-la enim_fw-la fides_fw-la nostra_fw-la revelationi_fw-la apostolis_n &_o prophetis_fw-la factae_fw-la qui_fw-la canonicos_fw-la libroâ—_n scripserunt_fw-la non_fw-la autem_fw-la revelationi_fw-la si_fw-la qua_fw-la fuit_fw-la alijs_fw-la doctoribus_fw-la facta_fw-la that_o have_v any_o conscience_n but_o not_o as_o good_a testimony_n to_o assent_v to_o the_o truth_n and_o so_o far_o be_v they_o from_o patronise_a the_o popish_a cause_n that_o you_o dare_v not_o accept_v they_o nisi_fw-la ex_fw-la cogitato_fw-la commento_fw-la but_o with_o mental_a reservation_n of_o a_o false_a comment_n or_o a_o worse_a interpretation_n 33._o interpretation_n index_n expurg_n belgic_a pag._n 5._o quum_fw-la igitur_fw-la in_o catholicis_fw-la veteribus_fw-la alijs_fw-la plurimos_fw-la feramus_fw-la errores_fw-la &_o exâ—enuemus_fw-la excusemus_fw-la excogitato_fw-la commenso_fw-la persaepè_fw-la negemus_fw-la &_o commodum_fw-la â—â—â—_o sensum_fw-la assingamus_fw-la dum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d in_o disputationibus_fw-la aut_fw-la in_o confliction_n but_o cum_fw-la adversarijs_fw-la reply_v pag._n 33._o what_o follow_v to_o wit_n that_o by_o the_o confession_n of_o his_o own_o forefather_n master_n &_o fellow_n protestant_n they_o the_o father_n be_v no_o better_a than_o mere_a papist_n a_o be_v both_o falsehood_n and_o froth_n for_o which_o of_o our_o account_n the_o father_n papist_n if_o the_o jesuite_n know_v they_o let_v he_o produce_v they_o but_o we_o believe_v his_o weakness_n will_v be_v see_v before_o his_o detection_n and_o sure_o he_o dream_v to_o think_v we_o esteem_v the_o father_n papist_n and_o slave_n to_o that_o tyrant_n who_o usurpation_n their_o writing_n always_o resist_v and_o how_o can_v this_o hang_v together_o we_o acknowledge_v that_o for_o the_o first_o 400._o or_o 500_o year_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n remain_v a_o true_a church_n free_a from_o papal_a imposture_n and_o yet_o as_o the_o jesuit_n spare_v not_o to_o accuse_v we_o charge_v the_o father_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n etc._n etc._n as_o papist_n to_o favour_n of_o that_o leaven_n which_o they_o ever_o cast_v out_o and_o expel_v but_o this_o the_o jesuit_n have_v refer_v to_o another_o place_n till_o which_o time_n we_o will_v leave_v it_o yet_o whereas_o the_o jesuite_n still_o insi_v upon_o the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n word_n no_o other_o father_n but_o god_n do_v we_o know_v upon_o who_o bare_a credit_n we_o may_v ground_v our_o conscience_n in_o thing_n that_o be_v to_o be_v believe_v &_o that_o rock_n upon_o which_o alone_o we_o build_v our_o faith_n be_v the_o foundation_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o prophet_n from_o which_o no_o sleight_n that_o they_o can_v devise_v shall_v ever_o draw_v we_o and_o think_v the_o same_o be_v utter_v for_o no_o other_o end_n but_o to_o cast_v by_o the_o father_n as_o little_o respect_v their_o authority_n 33_o authority_n reply_v pag._n 33_o we_o take_v this_o but_o for_o a_o wizard_n surmise_n and_o a_o vain_a repetition_n we_o have_v show_v before_o that_o the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n have_v give_v the_o father_n their_o due_a respect_n and_o if_o he_o shall_v do_v more_o he_o will_v deny_v to_o god_n his_o due_a reverence_n you_o that_o give_v too_o much_o to_o saint_n and_o angel_n dare_v not_o justify_v but_o distinguish_v your_o worship_n how_o much_o better_a be_v it_o then_o to_o deal_v plain_o and_o to_o give_v unto_o father_n that_o which_o be_v they_o and_o to_o god_n and_o his_o word_n what_o belong_v to_o they_o yea_o whether_o be_v it_o great_a disparagement_n to_o the_o father_n to_o make_v they_o stoop_v to_o god_n or_o man_n we_o do_v the_o first_o you_o do_v the_o last_o where_o you_o dare_v you_o purge_v they_o they_o shall_v not_o speak_v one_o word_n against_o babylon_n but_o by_o invent_v some_o device_n you_o will_v deny_v they_o â—_o they_o vide_fw-la lit_fw-fr â—_o and_o if_o such_o deal_n will_v not_o serve_v than_o down_o with_o their_o building_n give_v they_o no_o honour_n at_o all_o penitusauferatur_fw-la all_o index_n expurg_n hispanâ—ard_n quiâ—ogae_fw-la edit_fw-la madilti_fw-la ann_n 1584._o in_o fine_a literae_fw-la â—_o deleatur_fw-la tota_fw-la epistola_fw-la vdalrici_fw-la episcopi_fw-la augustini_fw-la de_fw-fr â—â—libatu_n cleri_fw-la item_n totus_fw-la libre_fw-la bertrami_n presbyteri_fw-la de_fw-la corpore_fw-la &_o sanguine_fw-la domini_fw-la penitusauferatur_fw-la last_o the_o jesuite_n say_v we_o will_v now_o discover_v for_o conclusion_n of_o the_o whole_a how_o far_o herein_o the_o answerer_n differ_v from_o those_o father_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n of_o god_n with_o who_o he_o pretend_v to_o have_v so_o great_a affinity_n and_o this_o we_o will_v declare_v by_o the_o express_a word_n of_o a_o ancient_a learned_a father_n vineâ—â—tius_n lyrinensis_n 34_o lyrinensis_n reply_v pag._n 34_o etc._n etc._n how_o willing_o the_o jesuite_n will_v have_v the_o ancient_a church_n to_o be_v as_o corrupt_v as_o themselves_o may_v appear_v by_o this_o his_o struggle_v with_o one_o only_a lyrinensis_n who_o word_n large_o translate_v speak_v not_o any_o thing_n in_o effect_n to_o prove_v his_o intention_n for_o who_o be_v ignorant_a that_o heresy_n be_v novelty_n and_o that_o heretic_n will_v justify_v their_o new_a folly_n by_o the_o ancient_a testimony_n of_o the_o sacred_a scripture_n neither_o by_o they_o alone_o but_o the_o ancient_a father_n also_o yet_o must_v this_o prove_v the_o answerer_n to_o differ_v from_o the_o father_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n because_o with_o they_o he_o use_v the_o rule_n that_o be_v
the_o pope_n have_v be_v the_o head_n and_o that_o all_o other_o church_n have_v hold_v the_o catholic_a faith_n of_o he_o in_o capite_fw-la but_o i_o perceive_v the_o roman_a church_n be_v now_o presume_v from_o the_o ancient_n to_o have_v have_v this_o title_n yet_o i_o think_v it_o will_v scarce_o be_v find_v what_o the_o jesuite_n do_v understand_v by_o the_o roman_a church_n for_o if_o by_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v comprehend_v all_o other_o church_n that_o be_v only_o to_o be_v account_v catholic_a for_o the_o subordinate_a obeisance_n to_o peter_n and_o other_o succeed_a bishop_n 49_o bishop_n see_v the_o jesuit_n reply_v pag._n 49_o than_o it_o be_v mere_a vanity_n to_o make_v a_o head_n the_o head_n of_o itself_o to_o make_v the_o church_n all_o head_n and_o no_o body_n if_o their_o particular_a city_n or_o diocese_n and_o church_n therein_o than_o he_o can_v by_o the_o roman_a church_n understand_v the_o roman_a catholic_a as_o he_o confess_v in_o the_o last_o section_n for_o say_v he_o if_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v take_v as_o it_o comprehend_v only_o that_o clergy_n which_o make_v but_o one_o particular_a bishopric_n and_o diocese_n in_o tho_o city_n of_o rome_n abstracting_a or_o as_o he_o will_v say_v abstract_v from_o that_o relation_n which_o it_o have_v unto_o all_o other_o christian_a church_n as_o the_o head_n unto_o the_o member_n than_o i_o say_v thâ—â—_n no_o man_n ever_o by_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n do_v understand_v the_o universal_a church_n 〈◊〉_d church_n reply_v 〈◊〉_d second_o if_o it_o be_v not_o the_o roman_a catholic_a than_o all_o the_o testimony_n produce_v make_v nothing_o for_o the_o roman_a catholic_a church_n but_o for_o the_o roman_a church_n that_o be_v not_o catholic_a but_o though_o he_o do_v not_o full_o express_v himself_o herein_o yet_o he_o do_v that_o which_o may_v give_v we_o a_o guess_n of_o his_o meaning_n see_v the_o stream_n of_o his_o proof_n be_v to_o set_v forth_o the_o eminency_n of_o their_o roman_a 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reply_v pag._n 9_o whatsoever_o the_o jesuite_n pretend_v there_o be_v not_o one_o word_n in_o josephus_n whereby_o he_o can_v prove_v the_o beginning_n of_o the_o sadducee_n their_o opinion_n of_o deny_v angel_n or_o indeed_o when_o they_o begin_v to_o be_v a_o sect_n for_o in_o the_o place_n antiâ—â—â—â—_n place_n lib._n 1â—_n antiâ—â—â—â—_n allege_v by_o he_o josephus_n tell_v we_o that_o there_o be_v three_o sect_n among_o the_o jew_n one_o of_o the_o pharisee_n a_o other_o of_o the_o sadducee_n &_o the_o three_o of_o the_o essenes_n who_o be_v account_v sect_n not_o in_o their_o inchoation_n but_o perfection_n about_o 143._o year_n before_o christ_n in_o the_o time_n of_o this_o high_a priest_n and_o the_o same_o author_n in_o a_o other_o place_n 〈…〉_o place_n 〈…〉_o express_v thing_n do_v some_o 11._o year_n after_o christ_n show_v that_o the_o jew_n be_v divide_v into_o sect_n a_o 〈◊〉_d retrò_fw-la 〈◊〉_d which_o can_v not_o be_v if_o they_o begin_v in_o the_o time_n assign_v by_o 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purpose_n prove_v strong_o that_o to_o be_v a_o heresy_n the_o original_a whereof_o he_o be_v no_o way_n able_a to_o demonstrate_v unto_o we_o which_o enervate_v &_o cut_v asunder_o the_o very_a heartstring_n of_o his_o argument_n the_o grecian_n câ—â—cassians_n georgian_o syrian_n egyptian_n habissine_n muscovite_n &_o russian_n say_v the_o most_o learned_a primate_n dissâ—â—t_v at_o this_o day_n from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o many_o 〈◊〉_d will_v you_o take_v upon_o you_o to_o show_v in_o what_o bishop_n day_n these_o several_a difference_n do_v first_o arise_v to_o this_o the_o jesuite_n repli_v i_o will_v s_o â—_o and_o by_o god_n help_n perform_v it_o also_o out_o of_o the_o learned_a work_n of_o our_o modern_a catholic_a â—â—iters_n â—_o â—â—iters_n reply_v pag._n â—_o but_o before_o this_o be_v perform_v the_o jesuite_n must_v remember_v what_o their_o own_o 12._o own_o a._n c_o his_o true_a relation_n of_o sundry_a conference_n pag._n 11._o 12._o require_v of_o we_o in_o this_o quere_z that_o he_o may_v with_o the_o same_o strictness_n satisfy_v we_o in_o that_o which_o we_o desire_v of_o he_o first_o they_o desire_v we_o to_o show_v the_o point_n change_v in_o the_o roman_a church_n from_o the_o ancient_a faith_n second_o they_o â—rge_v we_o to_o prove_v this_o change_n not_o by_o any_o reason_n of_o antiquity_n or_o the_o word_n of_o god_n but_o by_o the_o other_o circumstance_n of_o the_o author_n 〈◊〉_d &_o place_n and_o who_o persist_v in_o the_o former_a unchanged_a faith_n oppose_v and_o continue_a opposition_n against_o be_v as_o against_o a_o novelty_n and_o heresy_n beside_o this_o the_o author_n time_n &_o place_n of_o such_o novelty_n &_o heresy_n must_v so_o be_v point_v out_o that_o no_o papist_n may_v be_v â—ble_n to_o show_v those_o point_n to_o have_v be_v hold_v by_o more_o ancient_a approve_a author_n in_o the_o same_o sense_n in_o which_o they_o be_v hold_v by_o the_o roman_a church_n for_o if_o they_o be_v than_o they_o conclude_v that_o be_v able_a to_o convince_v that_o there_o be_v no_o such_o change_n â—ade_v now_o if_o this_o jesuite_n can_v perform_v what_o he_o have_v promise_v in_o all_o the_o controversy_n betwixt_o the_o roman_a &_o the_o greek_a church_n with_o that_o strictness_n which_o be_v require_v of_o we_o in_o the_o like_a kind_n they_o may_v he_o have_v some_o colour_n for_o what_o he_o require_v at_o our_o hand_n but_o if_o he_o have_v fail_v herein_o the_o reader_n will_v easy_o perceive_v that_o they_o be_v as_o little_a able_a to_o convince_v the_o greek_a church_n which_o yet_o notwithstanding_o they_o have_v reject_v of_o heresy_n by_o this_o rule_n as_o they_o think_v we_o be_v unable_a to_o detect_v they_o and_o see_v the_o jesuit_n have_v take_v uponhim_n the_o former_a task_n i_o will_v bestow_v the_o pain_n to_o give_v he_o a_o catalogue_n of_o particular_n wherein_o those_o church_n dissent_v from_o the_o roman_a to_o see_v out_o of_o what_o good_a author_n he_o be_v able_a to_o lay_v i_o down_o the_o person_n time_n &_o place_n by_o who_o when_o &_o where_o they_o be_v bring_v into_o those_o church_n with_o their_o opposer_n etc._n etc._n 1._o for_o the_o greciani_n they_o deny_v purgatory_n fire_n and_o hold_v that_o the_o soul_n of_o holy_a man_n depart_v enjoy_v not_o the_o beatifical_a vision_n before_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n inquiry_n judgement_n council_n floren_n prope_fw-la initium_fw-la respon_n graec._n ad_fw-la cardinal_n guisan_n q._n 1._o thom._n à _fw-fr jesu_n de_fw-fr conv_n gen_fw-la lib._n 6_o cap._n 1._o eit_n by_o brere_n wood_n in_o his_o inquiry_n 2_o the_o habissenes_n have_v with_o they_o the_o practice_n of_o circumcision_n not_o only_o of_o male_n but_o female_n also_o cundem_fw-la also_o zaga_n zabo_o derel_n &_o mor._n aethiop_n cit_fw-la per_fw-la cundem_fw-la 3._o they_o have_v a_o rule_n that_o no_o man_n must_v spit_v the_o same_o day_n that_o he_o have_v receive_v the_o eucharist_n cundem_fw-la eucharist_n zago_n zabo_n ibid._n cit_fw-la per_fw-la cundem_fw-la 4._o they_o teach_v that_o the_o soul_n
denial_n thereof_o and_o that_o his_o monarchy_n 〈◊〉_d consist_v not_o in_o matter_n of_o outward_a glory_n and_o precedency_n but_o of_o spiritual_a regency_n and_o power_n for_o else_o how_o can_v they_o deny_v what_o be_v never_o establish_v or_o consent_v unto_o by_o the_o catholic_a church_n or_o any_o famous_a or_o glorious_a member_n of_o the_o same_o and_o further_o in_o manifest_v the_o falsehood_n of_o his_o supposition_n you_o may_v conceive_v it_o be_v impossible_a to_o 〈◊〉_d the_o ancient_a testimony_n iâ—_n 〈◊〉_d that_o the_o father_n deny_v this_o spiritual_a and_o divine_a regency_n of_o the_o roman_a bishop_n because_o they_o never_o assume_v or_o exercise_v it_o yet_o all_o those_o step_n whereby_o they_o labour_v to_o ascend_v unto_o this_o spiritual_a height_n be_v ever_o resist_v in_o all_o time_n and_o age_n for_o in_o the_o first_o place_n their_o attempt_n of_o divine_a derivation_n of_o this_o power_n be_v cast_v off_o by_o their_o own_o cusaâ—us_o 13._o cusaâ—us_o cusanus_fw-la de_fw-la concord_n cath_z lib_n 2._o cap._n 13._o be_v so_o far_o from_o give_v the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n this_o spiritual_a eminency_n by_o divine_a canon_n that_o he_o deni_v it_o to_o have_v be_v grant_v unto_o he_o by_o any_o canon_n of_o the_o church_n and_o prove_v it_o to_o have_v be_v only_o bring_v in_o by_o common_a use_n &_o custom_n and_o sure_o what_o privilege_n the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n enjoy_v above_o their_o brethren_n which_o be_v far_o from_o that_o ecumenical_a spiritual_a regency_n subscriptionibus_fw-la regency_n turrecrem_fw-la d._n 2d_o constantino_n consistebat_fw-la hic_fw-la honour_n in_fw-la hoc_fw-la videlicet_fw-la quod_fw-la ad_fw-la locum_fw-la in_o fedendo_fw-la primo_fw-la post_fw-la rom_n â—oat_n &_o in_o responsionibus_fw-la haberet_fw-la secundam_fw-la vocem_fw-la &_o in_o subscriptionibus_fw-la or_o papal_a omnipotency_n the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n teddiderum_fw-la chalcedon_n chalce_v council_n act_n 16._o etâ—â—im_a 〈◊〉_d â—â—nioris_fw-la romae_fw-la propter_fw-la imperium_fw-la civitatis_fw-la illius_fw-la patres_fw-la consequenter_fw-la privilegia_fw-la teddiderum_fw-la atribute_v to_o the_o gift_n of_o their_o father_n which_o father_n we_o may_v conjecture_v pius_n 301._o pius_n aeneas_n sylu._n epist_n 301._o the_o second_o think_v to_o be_v the_o father_n assemble_v in_o the_o nicene_n council_n as_o marsilius_n 1â—_n marsilius_n defence_n pa._n 2._o cap._n 1â—_n patavinus_n have_v plain_o declare_v now_o all_o practice_n of_o insurrection_n to_o gain_v this_o universal_a regency_n either_o before_o or_o after_o they_o receive_v this_o limit_a honour_n of_o sit_v and_o subscribe_v first_o be_v ever_o resist_v by_o the_o catholic_a bishop_n as_o by_o this_o one_o instance_n will_v be_v sufficient_o clear_v the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n do_v many_o timesstrive_v that_o the_o finale_fw-la judicium_fw-la next_o to_o the_o determination_n of_o a_o â—â—â—â—cell_n for_o a_o papa_n 14._o papa_n council_n constan_n sess_v 4._o â—_o consil_n basil_n sess_v 2._o idem_fw-la assent_n cardinal_n cameracensis_n joannes_n gerson_n jacobus_n almainus_n nicolaus_n cusanus_fw-la â—anoriâ—itan_a cardinal_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d &_o alii_fw-la testae_fw-la bellarmin_n d_o council_n 〈◊〉_d lib._n cap._n 14._o supra_fw-la be_v never_o dream_v of_o in_o primitive_a time_n shall_v depend_v upon_o they_o in_o matter_n not_o of_o faith_n which_o they_o never_o pretend_v authority_n to_o declare_v but_o of_o fact_n &_o this_o cyprian_a non_fw-la cyprian_a lib._n 1._o epist_n 3._o nam_fw-la cùm_fw-la statutum_fw-la sit_fw-la omnibus_fw-la nobis_fw-la &_o aequum_fw-la sit_fw-la pariter_fw-la &_o justum_fw-la ut_fw-la uniuscujusque_fw-la causa_fw-la illic_fw-la audiatur_fw-la ubi_fw-la est_fw-la crimen_fw-la admissum_fw-la &_o singuliâ—_n pastoribus_fw-la â—â—â—tio_fw-la gregis_fw-la sit_fw-la adscripta_fw-la quam_fw-la regat_fw-la unusquisque_fw-la &_o guberâ—eâ—_fw-ge rationem_fw-la svi_fw-la actus_fw-la domino_fw-la redditurus_fw-la oporter_fw-la utique_fw-la choose_fw-la quibus_fw-la prae_fw-la suâ—â—s_fw-la nâ—â—_n circumcurfare_n nec_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la concordiam_fw-la cohaereâ—â—â—â—_n suâ_fw-la subdolâ_fw-la &_o fallaci_fw-la temeritate_fw-la collidere_fw-la sed_fw-la agere_fw-la illic_fw-la causam_fw-la svam_fw-la ubi_fw-la &_o accusatores_fw-la habere_fw-la &_o testes_fw-la svi_fw-la criminis_fw-la possunâ—_n nisi_fw-la si_fw-la paucis_fw-la desperatis_fw-la &_o perditis_fw-la minor_fw-la videtur_fw-la esse_fw-la auctoritas_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la in_o africa_n constiâ—utorum_fw-la qui_fw-la iam_fw-la de_fw-fr illis_fw-la judicaverunt_fw-la et_fw-la eorum_fw-la câ—â—scientiam_fw-la multip_v delictorum_fw-la laqueis_fw-la vinctam_fw-la judicij_fw-la svi_fw-la nuper_fw-la gravitate_fw-la damnârunt_fw-la i_o be_o causâ—_n coâ—â—â—â—_n cognita_fw-la est_fw-la iam_fw-la de_fw-fr eye_n dicta_fw-la sententia_fw-la est_fw-la nec_fw-la censure_n congruit_fw-la sacerdoâ—um_fw-la mobilis_fw-la atque_fw-la in_o constantis_fw-la animi_fw-la levitate_fw-la reprehendi_fw-la cum_fw-la dominus_fw-la doceat_fw-la et_fw-la dicat_fw-la sit_fw-la sermo_fw-la vester_fw-ge est_fw-la est_fw-la non_fw-la non_fw-la resist_v as_o savour_v of_o usurpation_n show_v upon_o what_o poor_a ground_n this_o practice_n depend_v even_o upon_o the_o judgement_n of_o a_o few_o desperate_a &_o graceless_a people_n who_o be_v of_o opinion_n that_o bishop_n be_v unequal_a in_o their_o authority_n whereupon_o the_o bishop_n labour_v to_o restrain_v these_o busybody_n by_o lawful_a remedy_n in_o counsel_n afterward_o as_o may_v be_v collect_v from_o the_o sixth_o council_n of_o carthage_n episcopum_fw-la carthage_n epistol_n council_n aphricani_fw-la ad_fw-la caelest_n vrbis_fw-la romae_fw-la episcopum_fw-la &_o the_o 8_o general_a council_n hold_v at_o constantinople_n 26._o constantinople_n can_v 26._o second_o the_o jesuite_n do_v false_o point_v out_o the_o patriarch_n to_o deny_v papal_a height_n or_o their_o spiritual_a monarchy_n for_o the_o pope_n at_o that_o time_n pretend_v nothing_o of_o that_o nature_n and_o therefore_o he_o can_v not_o deny_v that_o which_o be_v never_o affirm_v it_o be_v true_a that_o john_n can_v not_o be_v content_a to_o enjoy_v the_o privilege_n of_o his_o predecessor_n give_v he_o by_o the_o counsel_n of_o constantinople_n and_o chalcedon_n but_o that_o he_o will_v be_v more_o the_o only_a bishop_n and_o universal_a patriarch_n yet_o that_o he_o deny_v the_o honour_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n no_o more_o than_o the_o other_o patriarch_n gregory_n 36._o gregory_n epistol_n 36._o will_v clear_v in_o regard_n he_o lament_v their_o loss_n as_o much_o as_o his_o own_o neither_o be_v there_o any_o thing_n urge_v by_o this_o jesuite_n that_o prove_v the_o point_n of_o denial_n of_o this_o top-gallant_n of_o papal_a usurpation_n and_o therefore_o we_o may_v well_o reject_v it_o as_o to_o no_o purpose_n for_o why_o shall_v gregory_n by_o this_o think_v the_o patriarchall_a see_v in_o their_o privilege_n violate_v if_o that_o papal_a pride_n have_v only_o be_v contradict_v by_o john_n of_o constantinople_n second_o he_o assume_v that_o their_o denâ—al_n of_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a be_v begin_v by_o acrius_fw-la &_o contradict_v by_o augustine_n &_o epiphan_n 1._o this_o be_v boldness_n and_o impudence_n in_o the_o jesuite_n to_o charge_v the_o greek_a church_n to_o follow_v that_o heretic_n who_o they_o have_v &_o do_v in_o their_o practice_n utter_o abdicate_v &_o condemn_v 2._o he_o speak_v not_o any_o thing_n to_o the_o purpose_n for_o acrius_fw-la do_v never_o cross_a prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a in_o the_o sense_n that_o the_o greek_a church_n do_v at_o this_o time_n for_o they_o deny_v prayer_n for_o soul_n in_o purgatory_n esse_fw-la purgatory_n cocciâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d 2._o lib._n 7_o art_n 5._o pag._n 846._o grâ—ci_n ac_fw-la musâ—â—vitae_n etsi_fw-la funeâ—re_fw-la sacrum_fw-la 〈…〉_o tamen_fw-la purgatorium_fw-la purgâ—â—oâ—ium_fw-la 〈◊〉_d art_n 1â—_n coâ—_n lutheâ—_n gâ—â—â—is_fw-la ad_fw-la â—unc_fw-la usque_fw-la diem_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la creditum_fw-la purgatorium_fw-la esse_fw-la which_o the_o ancient_a churchy_n never_o dream_v of_o nor_o aerius_n ever_o oppose_v but_o that_o heretic_n deny_v the_o commemoration_n and_o prayer_n for_o the_o saint_n depart_v use_v by_o the_o ancient_a church_n which_o have_v no_o relation_n to_o purgatory_n flame_n or_o soul_n pretend_v to_o be_v punish_v there_o as_o will_v be_v see_v in_o handle_v of_o the_o point_n and_o for_o this_o and_o not_o the_o other_o be_v he_o condemn_v of_o heretical_a rashness_n so_o that_o the_o jesuite_n be_v mistake_v frame_v a_o answer_n to_o that_o which_o be_v not_o require_v at_o his_o hand_n and_o therefore_o we_o desire_v he_o to_o recollect_v his_o thought_n &_o tell_v we_o what_o person_n among_o the_o greek_n do_v first_o deny_v prayer_n for_o soul_n out_o of_o purgatory_n or_o else_o he_o say_v nothing_o to_o the_o demand_n in_o the_o three_o place_n he_o tell_v we_o their_o defence_n of_o marriage_n of_o priest_n be_v contradict_v against_o theodorus_n by_o chrysostome_n conceperunt_fw-la g_o roâ—â—enâ—_n ibid._n legat_n qui_fw-la velit_fw-la graecorum_n veterum_fw-la commentarios_fw-la &_o nullum_fw-la quantum_fw-la opinâ—â—_n aut_fw-la quam_fw-la â—arissi_fw-la mum_n de_fw-fr purgatory_n seâ—â—oâ—em_fw-la inveniet_fw-la sed_fw-la neque_fw-la laâ—iâ—i_fw-la simâ—l_fw-la omnes_fw-la ac_fw-la sensim_fw-la huius_fw-la â—â—i_fw-la veritatem_fw-la conceperunt_fw-la and_o against_o certain_a other_o by_o epiphanius_n hâ—r_n
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east_n etc._n etc._n ibid._n etc._n reply_v ibid._n and_o what_o make_v he_o so_o confident_a of_o his_o power_n his_o monarchy_n sure_o no_o but_o because_o he_o be_v the_o emperors_n chaplain_n and_o therefore_o may_v expect_v to_o be_v gracious_o assist_v by_o his_o lord_n and_o that_o this_o be_v not_o a_o conjecture_n you_o may_v conceive_v in_o regard_n the_o bishop_n of_o the_o east_n make_v 53_o â—_o reply_v pag._n 53_o light_a of_o his_o restitution_n return_v he_o a_o answer_n full_a of_o scorn_n and_o threat_n gravissimarum_fw-la threat_n sozomen_n hist_o eccles_n l_o 3._o 2_o 7._o athanasi_n â—s_v autem_fw-la &_o paulus_n ad_fw-la svas_fw-la sedes_fw-la revertuntur_fw-la literasque_fw-la julit_fw-la episcopis_fw-la orientis_fw-la mittunt_fw-la quibus_fw-la illi_fw-la graviter_fw-la commoti_fw-la conveniunt_fw-la antiochiae_fw-la in_o unum_fw-la &_o epistolam_fw-la verbis_fw-la elegantibus_fw-la ornatam_fw-la &_o disertè_fw-la ut_fw-la â—heto_fw-la rum_o mos_fw-la sert_fw-la compositam_fw-la ad_fw-la julium_n scribunt_fw-la eamque_fw-la plenam_fw-la ironiae_fw-la &_o minarum_fw-la non_fw-la expertem_fw-la gravissimarum_fw-la neither_o be_v he_o ever_o able_a to_o bring_v to_o pass_v what_o he_o determine_v whilst_o he_o use_v his_o own_o power_n for_o they_o disdain_v that_o the_o greatness_n of_o his_o bishopprickâ—_n shall_v make_v they_o his_o inferior_n retulit_fw-la inferior_n ibid-indignati_a sunt_fw-la se_fw-la posteriores_fw-la ideo_fw-la far_o quòd_fw-la magnitudine_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la superarentur_fw-la sozomen_n hist_o eccle_n l._n 3._o c._n 9_o at_o cum_fw-la literis_fw-la apud_fw-la â—piscopos_fw-fr orientis_fw-la de_fw-fr rebus_fw-la propter_fw-la quas_fw-la scripsisset_fw-la nihil_fw-la proficeret_fw-la causam_fw-la aâ—hanasij_n &_o pauli_n ad_fw-la constantem_fw-la retulit_fw-la and_o therefore_o he_o solicit_v his_o lord_n by_o who_o authority_n they_o be_v restore_v 〈◊〉_d restore_v sozomen_n hist_o eccles_n l._n 3._o c._n 1â—_n conâ—tans_fw-la autem_fw-la rebuâ—_n gestis_fw-la in_o concilio_fw-la sardicensi_fw-la cognitis_fw-la scripsit_fw-la ad_fw-la fratrem_fw-la constantium_fw-la literas_fw-la uti_fw-la athanasio_fw-la &_o paulo_n ecclesias_fw-la svas_fw-la redderet_fw-la vbi_fw-la uâ—â—o_fw-la intellexit_fw-la fratrem_fw-la diem_fw-la de_fw-la die_fw-la ducere_fw-la scripâ—iâ—_n denuo_fw-la ut_fw-la vel_fw-la viros_fw-la istos_fw-la reciperet_fw-la vel_fw-la se_fw-la ad_fw-la bellum_fw-la gerendum_fw-la pararet_fw-la constantius_n igiâ—ur_fw-fr cùm_fw-la de_fw-fr linere_fw-la cum_fw-la episcopis_fw-la orientis_fw-la communâ—casset_fw-la stultum_fw-la putavit_fw-la obâ—eam_fw-la causam_fw-la bellum_fw-la civil_a &_o intestmum_fw-la suscipere_fw-la quo_fw-la quidem_fw-la concilio_fw-la inductus_fw-la athanasiuâ—_n ex_fw-la itaâ—â—_n acceâ—sit_fw-la &_o cap._n 20._o imperator_fw-la autem_fw-la dimittit_fw-la athanasium_fw-la in_o aegyptum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d â—â—â—â—â—_o literas_fw-la cùm_fw-la ad_fw-la 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de_fw-la effectu_fw-la sacraâ—u_fw-la l._n 2._o c._n 10_o respondeo_fw-la primo_fw-la librum_fw-la citatum_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la augustini_fw-la sed_fw-la alicujus_fw-la haeretici_fw-la qui_fw-la multa_fw-la docet_fw-la &_o contra_fw-la fidem_fw-la &_o contra_fw-la augustinum_n that_o teach_v many_o thing_n both_o against_o faith_n &_o against_o s._n augustine_n i_o do_v not_o urge_v this_o as_o if_o his_o testimony_n from_o hence_o be_v of_o any_o strength_n they_o be_v answer_v in_o substance_n before_o but_o because_o you_o may_v see_v that_o they_o will_v avoid_v no_o witness_n though_o in_o other_o cause_n they_o reject_v they_o that_o will_v advantage_v their_o cause_n for_o the_o title_n give_v to_o s._n peter_n by_o chrysostome_n as_o chief_a captain_n head_n of_o the_o apostle_n 54._o apostle_n reply_v pag._n 54._o they_o all_o have_v receive_v answer_n before_o for_o we_o acknowledge_v peter_n head_n which_o be_v the_o same_o with_o chief_a of_o the_o apostle_n 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the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n in_o honour_n neither_o do_v he_o compare_v himself_o to_o those_o other_o but_o unto_o the_o very_a chief_a declare_v that_o every_o one_o of_o they_o have_v obtain_v alike_o dignity_n dignitatem_fw-la dignity_n chryso_v in_o epist_n ad_fw-la gal._n c._n 2._o jamque_fw-la se_fw-la caeteris_fw-la honore_fw-la parem_fw-la ostendit_fw-la nec_fw-la se_fw-la reliquis_fw-la illis_fw-la sed_fw-la ipsi_fw-la summo_fw-la comparat_fw-la declarans_fw-la quod_fw-la horum_fw-la unusquisqueâ—_n parem_fw-la sortitus_fw-la sit_fw-la dignitatem_fw-la ambrose_n know_v not_o whether_o shall_v be_v prefer_v est_fw-la prefer_v ambros_n serm_n 66._o b._n petrus_n &_o paulus_n eminent_a inter_fw-la universos_fw-la apostolos_fw-la &_o peculiari_fw-la quâdam_fw-la prerogativa_fw-la praecellunt_fw-la utrum_fw-la inter_fw-la ipsos_fw-la quis_fw-la cvi_fw-la praeponatur_fw-la incertum_fw-la est_fw-la but_o cyprian_a and_o hierome_n make_v they_o all_o equal_a christ_n after_o 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have_v sit_v whence_o also_o he_o be_v call_v cephas_n in_o the_o which_o one_o chair_n unity_n may_v be_v keep_v of_o all_o man_n lest_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n shall_v maintain_v every_o one_o their_o singular_a chair_n to_o themselves_o so_o that_o now_o he_o shall_v be_v a_o schismatic_n and_o a_o offender_n who_o will_v seem_v to_o raise_v up_o another_o against_o this_o only_a chair_n 54._o chair_n reply_v pag._n 54._o this_o place_n of_o optatus_n if_o the_o papist_n do_v right_o interpret_v it_o must_v enclose_v a_o notorious_a falsehood_n for_o can_v it_o be_v affirm_v with_o truth_n by_o optatus_n that_o in_o his_o time_n the_o apostolical_a chair_n be_v only_o place_v in_o the_o city_n of_o rome_n when_o other_o apostle_n have_v their_o several_a seat_n and_o chair_n in_o other_o city_n also_o as_o james_n at_o jerusalem_n aswell_o as_o peter_n at_o rome_n all_o which_o be_v visible_a and_o conspicuous_a to_o the_o church_n before_o optatus_n his_o time_n as_o we_o 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pag._n 43._o now_o the_o jesuite_n give_v the_o title_n â—â—spotted_a unto_o the_o primitive_a church_n of_o rome_n which_o he_o account_v the_o catholic_a how_o can_v the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n understand_v the_o jesuite_n term_n but_o according_a to_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o word_n as_o it_o be_v vulgar_o take_v in_o the_o primitive_a time_n second_o it_o be_v not_o amiss_o to_o conceive_v that_o the_o jesuite_n in_o his_o challenge_n call_v the_o primitive_a church_n of_o rome_n 〈◊〉_d challenge_n 〈◊〉_d in_o his_o challenge_n in_o his_o enquiry_n in_o this_o section_n he_o lay_v down_o the_o roman_a church_n without_o reâ—â—raynt_n of_o primitive_a and_o last_o in_o his_o proof_n he_o think_v he_o have_v get_v the_o day_n if_o from_o antiquity_n he_o can_v prove_v that_o the_o catholic_a church_n can_v fail_v so_o that_o you_o may_v easy_o â—spy_v who_o be_v guilty_a of_o mingle_v one_o question_n with_o another_o but_o let_v we_o examine_v this_o new_a question_n as_o the_o 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privilege_n of_o the_o unspotted_a crucifix_n â—_o non_fw-fr enim_fw-la turbari_fw-la te_fw-la con_fw-mi venâ—â—_n cùm_fw-la audicris_fw-la quia_fw-la tratar_n &_o crucifix_n integrity_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n upon_o the_o promise_n of_o christ_n to_o peter_n matt_n 16._o so_o also_o they_o oftentimes_o deduce_v the_o same_o from_o the_o virtue_n of_o that_o prayer_n which_o christ_n make_v to_o his_o father_n for_o peter_n faith_n that_o it_o shall_v never_o fail_v luc_n 22._o wherein_o doubtless_o he_o be_v hear_v for_o his_o reverence_n heb._n 5._o 7._o â—â—_o reply_v pag._n â—â—_o there_o be_v no_o ground_n why_o the_o roman_a shall_v enjoy_v this_o privilege_n either_o from_o christ_n promise_n or_o his_o prayer_n &_o as_o the_o jesuite_n have_v fail_v in_o deduce_v any_o thing_n from_o the_o former_a so_o do_v he_o show_v his_o ability_n in_o this_o latter_a at_o his_o first_o entrance_n for_o first_o he_o bring_v in_o forge_a epistle_n under_o the_o name_n of_o lucius_n 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heresy_n do_v arise_v and_o with_o different_a name_n do_v end_v avour_n to_o tear_v in_o piece_n and_o divide_v christ_n his_o dove_n and_o his_o queen_n or_o spouse_n be_v it_o not_o reason_n that_o the_o true_a apostolical_a church_n shall_v be_v call_v by_o her_o syrname_n of_o catholic_a thereby_o to_o discern_v and_o distinguish_v her_o incorrupted_a unity_n lest_o that_o unspotted_a virgin_n by_o other_o man_n error_n and_o mistake_v may_v be_v divide_v 6â—_n divide_v reply_v pag._n 6â—_n etc._n etc._n what_o have_v we_o here_o for_o the_o unspotted_a roman_a church_n here_o be_v nothing_o to_o exempt_v she_o from_o present_a stain_n or_o after_o pollution_n that_o there_o be_v a_o catholic_a church_n and_o not_o bespot_v with_o the_o impurity_n of_o the_o ancient_a heretic_n who_o do_v deny_v yet_o this_o do_v not_o prove_v augustine_n over-shot_a in_o his_o retractation_n or_o the_o jesuite_n justify_v in_o â—â—â—_o term_v now_o as_o if_o he_o have_v perform_v what_o he_o make_v we_o expect_v â—e_n swell_v may_v not_o a_o man_n now_o be_v bold_a to_o be_v try_v by_o the_o judgement_n of_o our_o answerer_n own_o conscience_n whether_o he_o have_v any_o reason_n to_o except_v against_o i_o for_o term_v the_o 〈◊〉_d catholic_a roman_n church_n unspotted_a â—â—_o unspotted_a reply_v pag._n â—â—_o and_o indiscreet_a man_n may_v be_v bold_a in_o a_o arm_n of_o flesh_n a_o â—eed_n of_o egypt_n a_o break_a tooth_n but_o vain_o and_o to_o his_o loss_n the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n conscience_n may_v for_o any_o thing_n you_o have_v say_v commiserate_v your_o confidence_n not_o justify_v it_o unless_o you_o will_v have_v he_o to_o be_v convict_v with_o forge_a word_n and_o bare_a name_n when_o as_o i_o have_v say_v the_o jesuite_n this_o general_a warrant_n from_o the_o holy_a father_n and_o doctor_n of_o this_o primitive_a time_n for_o the_o same_o 67_o same_o reply_v pag._n 67_o the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n by_o except_v at_o your_o unspotted_a church_n do_v not_o charge_v the_o â—niversall_a build_v upon_o the_o rock_n confess_v by_o peter_n with_o desperate_a heresy_n particular_a member_n and_o church_n which_o have_v outward_o profess_v christ_n have_v fall_v into_o heresy_n &_o so_o may_v rome_n aberraret_fw-la rome_n frauciscus_fw-la picus_n theo._n 13_o juxta_fw-la theoso_fw-la gorumquotuâ—dam_n &_o juris_fw-la interpretum_fw-la aliquorum_fw-la dogmata_fw-la fieri_fw-la possetut_o romana_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la quae_fw-la particularis_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la est_fw-la contra_fw-la universalem_fw-la distincta_fw-la infide_v aberraret_fw-la but_o that_o the_o catholic_n church_n shall_v forsake_v the_o foundation_n of_o faith_n this_o he_o well_o know_v will_v cross_v christ_n promise_n and_o make_v the_o gate_n of_o hell_n prevail_v against_o his_o church_n it_o will_v then_o be_v no_o rock_n upon_o which_o the_o church_n be_v build_v but_o the_o sand_n subject_n to_o wind_n &_o weather_n the_o jesuite_n in_o his_o challenge_n do_v 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thessalonica_n irenaeus_n pag._n 140_o 142._o disci_fw-la te_fw-la ab_fw-la apostoli_fw-la cis_fw-la ecclesijs_fw-la habetis_fw-la romae_fw-la linum_fw-la &_o polycarpum_fw-la smyrnae_fw-la ab_fw-la apostolis_n edoctum_fw-la tertull._n praeser_n p._n c._n 37._o proximè_fw-la est_fw-la tibi_fw-la achaâ—_n habes_fw-la corinthum_n si_fw-mi non_fw-la longè_fw-la es_fw-la â—_o macedonia_n habes_fw-la philippos_n habes_fw-la thessalonicenses_n si_fw-mi potes_fw-la in_o asiam_fw-la tendere_fw-la habes_fw-la ephesum_fw-la si_fw-la autem_fw-la italiae_fw-la adjaces_fw-la haqes_fw-la romam_fw-la unde_fw-la nobis_fw-la quoque_fw-la authoritas_fw-la praest_n o_o est_fw-la rhenanus_fw-la argum_fw-la in_o tert._n de_fw-fr prescript_n &_o alibi_fw-la impress_n basil_n 1521._o tertullianus_n ecclesiam_fw-la unam_fw-la apostolicam_fw-la nulla_fw-la loco_fw-la affigit_fw-la romanum_fw-la aec_fw-la lesiam_fw-la ornat_fw-la magnificae_fw-la laudis_fw-la elogio_fw-la non_fw-la tamen_fw-la tantam_fw-la 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themselves_o last_o the_o very_a name_n of_o catholic_a which_o be_v so_o proper_a to_o this_o church_n amongst_o so_o many_o heresy_n that_o howsoever_o all_o heretic_n affect_v the_o name_n of_o catholic_a yet_o if_o a_o strange_a chance_n to_o inquire_v in_o what_o place_n do_v the_o catholickâ—_n meet_v together_o no_o heretic_n will_v dare_v to_o show_v hiâ—_n own_o church_n or_o house_n 70_o reply_v pag._n 70_o first_o i_o desire_v the_o jesuit_n to_o consider_v what_o augustine_n say_v that_o heretic_n affect_v the_o name_n &_o never_o any_o 〈◊〉_d more_o than_o papist_n who_o be_v all_o but_o donatist_n of_o which_o none_o be_v find_v in_o the_o ancient_a succession_n of_o the_o roman_a bishop_n second_o that_o although_o the_o title_n catholic_n do_v point_n at_o the_o true_a church_n in_o the_o primitive_a time_n yet_o it_o be_v not_o otherwise_o then_o the_o title_n of_o man_n do_v point_n out_o heretic_n fineâ—â—_n heretic_n hieron_n cont_n luâ—ferianos_fw-la prope_fw-la 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unto_o she_o have_v waste_v away_o such_o spot_n as_o impair_v both_o the_o bounty_n and_o health_n too_o of_o that_o ancient_a church_n 7â—_n reply_v pag._n 7â—_n and_o what_o hinder_v this_o but_o the_o church_n of_o ireland_n may_v claim_v kindred_n with_o the_o ancient_a roman_a why_o he_o tell_v we_o if_o the_o ancient_a roman_a church_n be_v the_o true_a church_n and_o spouse_n of_o christ_n for_o 500_o year_n as_o he_o will_v â—oâ—_n deny_v what_o may_v we_o think_v of_o his_o i_o pray_v you_o which_o he_o himself_o do_v grant_v to_o be_v unlike_a unto_o the_o same_o 72_o reply_v pag_n 72_o do_v dissimilitude_n take_v away_o kindred_n brethren_n may_v be_v unlike_a as_o jacob_n and_o esau_n why_o not_o sister_n it_o be_v sufficient_a to_o conclude_v a_o prince_n of_o the_o house_n of_o austria_n from_o the_o lip_n although_o they_o much_o vary_v in_o their_o other_o proportion_n hypocrates_n his_o twin_n be_v not_o i_o think_v in_o all_o part_n so_o alike_o as_o the_o jesuite_n 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paracelsian_a thereby_o to_o cure_v her_o malady_n 7â—_n malady_n reply_v pag._n 7â—_n here_o be_v matter_n of_o weep_v rather_o then_o of_o laughter_n if_o this_o charge_n be_v just_a for_o who_o make_v the_o roman_a church_n in_o the_o first_o age_n to_o be_v abandon_v by_o christ_n to_o be_v lye_v in_o disgrace_n to_o be_v languish_v in_o disease_n not_o the_o answerer_n but_o this_o jesuite_n out_o of_o his_o honesty_n have_v invent_v it_o because_o against_o the_o answerers_n word_n he_o have_v no_o ground_n for_o exception_n but_o i_o will_v know_v whether_o the_o promise_n be_v make_v to_o the_o church_n quâ_fw-la roman_n and_o not_o otherwise_o whether_o he_o have_v any_o other_o argument_n then_o what_o be_v answer_v to_o prove_v it_o and_o how_o it_o come_v to_o pâ—sse_v that_o there_o be_v invent_v epistle_n and_o other_o proof_n urge_v to_o declare_v this_o beside_o the_o scripture_n when_o the_o institution_n be_v pretend_v to_o come_v from_o thence_o second_o i_o desire_v 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his_o receive_a wound_n which_o force_v his_o impatiency_n that_o he_o can_v contain_v himself_o but_o that_o which_o the_o jesuite_n suppose_v will_v countenance_v his_o passion_n be_v that_o the_o father_n who_o he_o deserve_o commend_v in_o their_o best_a time_n be_v conclude_v hereby_o to_o have_v less_o understanding_n to_o know_v or_o less_o grace_n and_o courage_n to_o perform_v what_o be_v necessary_a for_o the_o wash_n and_o câ—ring_v of_o god_n church_n then_o certain_a tumultuous_a upstart_n 7â—_n upstart_n reply_v pag._n 7â—_n etc._n etc._n i_o desire_v that_o you_o will_v confess_v ingenuous_o whether_o you_o or_o ourselves_o give_v more_o honour_n to_o the_o father_n we_o that_o acknowledge_v they_o to_o be_v counsellor_n appoint_v to_o the_o church_n to_o be_v pastor_n and_o doctor_n raise_v up_o by_o god_n to_o feed_v his_o people_n and_o when_o they_o be_v meet_v together_o in_o a_o council_n or_o consent_n their_o sentence_n to_o be_v the_o great_a determination_n 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wheredome_n and_o fornication_n wherewith_o they_o defile_v the_o court_n of_o rome_n and_o usury_n in_o the_o high_a degree_n vocant_fw-la degree_n nâ—ch_o cleâ—â—â—ng_v in_o lib_n de_fw-la corrupto_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la stam_fw-la c._n 10._o cardinalium_fw-la qui_fw-la papae_fw-la assident_fw-la spiritus_fw-la verba_fw-la tumenâ—ia_fw-la gestus_fw-la tam_fw-la sunt_fw-la insolentâ—s_fw-la ut_fw-la si_fw-la aâ—tifex_fw-la cuique_fw-la vellet_fw-la superbiae_fw-la simulachâ—um_fw-la effingere_fw-la nullâ_fw-la congruentius_fw-la tatiâ—â—â—id_fw-la facere_fw-la â—osset_n quam_fw-la cardinalis_fw-la effigiâ—â—_n oculis_fw-la inâ—â—â—â—iâ—m_fw-la objectaâ—â—o_fw-la idem_fw-la c._n 12._o quis_fw-la â—esciâ—â—_n â—ctionis_fw-la schismatics_n horrend_a be_o pâ—â—â—â—m_fw-la per_fw-la nequitiam_fw-la cardiâ—alium_fw-la in_o ecclesiae_fw-la grâ—mium_fw-la injectam_fw-la etc._n etc._n idem_fw-la c._n tâ—_n quis_fw-la immensam_fw-la &_o iâ—â—â—tâ—icabiâ—em_fw-la voraginem_fw-la ipâ—orum_fw-la concupiscentiâ—_n ver_fw-la bis_fw-la square_a valeat_fw-la etc._n etc._n idem_fw-la c._n 12._o transâ—o_o simoniacal_a aâ—â—d_n papaâ—_n intercessioneâ—_n patrocinia_fw-la veâ—alia_fw-la corruptiones_fw-la aut_fw-la promotioneâ—â—â—â—pisâ—imâ—â—_n &_o damnaâ—isâ—â—â—s_n quae_fw-la omnes_fw-la ferè_fw-la istis_fw-la auctoribus_fw-la &_o suasoribus_fw-la â—iâ—bant_fw-la etc._n etc._n neâ—_n enumâ—rare_fw-la volo_fw-la câ—rum_fw-la adulteria_fw-la flupra_fw-la â—oâ—â—icâ—â—â—ones_fw-la quibus_fw-la romanam_fw-la curiâ—â—â—â—â—am_fw-la nuâ—â—_n incâ—â—â—ant_a etc._n etc._n neâ—_n refero_fw-la vsuras_fw-la etc._n etc._n quâ_fw-la ex_fw-la causa_fw-la nâ—â—mularioâ—_n supreme_a 〈…〉_o non_fw-it incongruâ—nâ—er_a â—oâ—_n quidam_fw-la vocant_fw-la and_o for_o their_o clergy_n how_o be_v they_o esteem_v among_o themselves_o aventine_n term_n they_o in_o his_o time_n great_a wolf_n lustful_a per_fw-la son_n adulterer_n ravisher_n of_o virgin_n and_o nun_n theive_v and_o usurper_n drone_n lecherous_a perfidious_a perjure_a ignorant_a ass_n wolf_n hypocrite_n narro_fw-la hypocrite_n aveâ—iniâ—_n l._n 6._o annal._n 〈◊〉_d cuâ—_n oâ—iâ—â—â—apâ—oâ—_n â—iâ—â—â—â—_n luâ—â—â—_n liâ—idinoâ—os_n adulteros_fw-la virginum_fw-la sacratâ—rum_fw-la foeminarum_fw-la â—â—upra_fw-la 〈…〉_o cocosâ—â—â—liâ—â—â—s_n latroâ—â—â—_n argeâ—tarioâ—_n numâ—xâ—â—rioâ—_n â—ucos_fw-la pecuniarum_fw-la aucupes_fw-la â—uâ—â—â—â—â—ditos_fw-la peâ—â—â—doâ—_fw-es 〈◊〉_d literarum_fw-la omnium_fw-la penitus_fw-la rudes_fw-la imponiâ—_n non_fw-la audita_fw-la loquoâ—_n â—â—_o quae_fw-la â—isâ—e_fw-fr oculis_fw-la video_fw-la narro_fw-la etc._n etc._n albertus_n express_v the_o ruler_n of_o the_o church_n by_o the_o messenger_n of_o antichrist_n supplanter_n of_o the_o flock_n of_o christ_n 10_o christ_n albertus_n in_o evangel_n johan._n c._n 10_o and_o how_o long_o they_o have_v continue_v this_o good_a opinion_n among_o all_o man_n the_o complaint_n and_o grief_n of_o man_n that_o have_v have_v any_o modesty_n in_o several_a age_n will_v declare_v alij_fw-la declare_v honour_v aâ—gust_n dial._n de_fw-fr praedest_fw-la &_o lib._n arbit_n verte_z te_fw-la ad_fw-la cives_fw-la babyloniae_fw-la &_o vide_fw-la quales_fw-la sint_fw-la etc._n etc._n alvares_n pelagiâ—s_v the_o planâ—â—â—_n ecclesiae_fw-la nic._n 〈◊〉_d de_fw-fr coâ—â—â—pto_fw-la ecclesiâ—_n 〈◊〉_d neâ—â—â—â—_n berâ—â—â—dâ—â—_n &_o alij_fw-la neither_o do_v this_o age_n minister_v unto_o we_o any_o hope_n that_o their_o doctrine_n be_v now_o of_o better_a efficacy_n though_o the_o papacy_n be_v honour_v with_o more_o glorious_a title_n then_o ever_o it_o be_v before_o in_o regard_n they_o do_v not_o as_o luther_n be_v by_o they_o pretend_v to_o have_v do_v term_v only_o some_o dissolure_n person_n swine_n but_o all_o their_o clergy_n and_o laiety_n also_o for_o so_o our_o irish_a regulars_n will_v have_v the_o irish_a bishop_n to_o be_v swineherd_n &_o their_o flock_n swine_n this_o be_v their_o argument_n to_o prove_v the_o provincial_n of_o the_o regulars_n to_o be_v great_a prelate_n then_o the_o bishop_n because_o the_o pastor_n be_v know_v by_o his_o flock_n &_o opilio_n digâ—ior_fw-la est_fw-la sâ—bâ—â—câ—_n a_o shepherd_n be_v better_a than_o a_o sâ—yâ—eheard_n â—â—bulâ—o_fw-la sâ—yâ—eheard_n consuâ—a_fw-fr â—â—â—iâ—ien_fw-fr proâ—â—â—â—_n superiores_fw-la regularium_fw-la digniores_fw-la sâ—nt_fw-la episcopis_fw-la siquidem_fw-la digâ—â—tas_fw-la pastoris_fw-la petenda_fw-la est_fw-la ex_fw-la â—_z 〈◊〉_d gregiâ—_n quemadmodum_fw-la â—â—iâ—â—o_fw-la dignior_fw-la â—â—_o â—â—bulâ—o_fw-la so_o that_o if_o the_o jesuite_n make_v looseness_n of_o conversation_n in_o some_o particular_n a_o argument_n against_o the_o truth_n of_o religion_n and_o doctrine_n in_o the_o reformation_n and_o will_v thereby_o take_v away_o our_o kindred_n with_o the_o primitive_a church_n what_o may_v we_o conclude_v from_o the_o universal_a leprosy_n that_o have_v by_o their_o own_o confession_n overgrow_v both_o head_n and_o member_n throughout_o the_o papacy_n but_o iâ—_n this_o manner_n of_o argue_v from_o corrupt_a manner_n to_o corrupt_a doctrine_n be_v of_o small_a force_n as_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o themselves_o in_o so_o much_o that_o no_o inward_a virtue_n in_o bellarmine_n judgement_n be_v require_v to_o make_v one_o a_o part_n of_o the_o true_a church_n virtâ—â—eâ—_n church_n bellarm._n de_fw-fr eccles_n miliâ—â—â—â—â—_n l._n 3._o c._n 3._o ut_fw-la aliquis_fw-la aliquâ—_n modo_fw-la dici_fw-la possit_fw-la pars_fw-la veâ—â—_n ecclesiae_fw-la de_fw-la qua_fw-la scripturâ—â—_n loquâ—nâ—â—r_n â—on_v â—â—taâ—â—â—s_n requiri_fw-la ullam_fw-la internam_fw-la virtâ—â—eâ—_n yet_o i_o be_o sure_a it_o be_v able_a to_o moderate_v this_o vaunter_n from_o triumph_v like_o the_o pharisee_n god_n i_o thank_v thou_o i_o be_o not_o like_o other_o man_n 9_o luke_n â—8_o 9_o but_o here_o our_o answerer_n domand_v of_o i_o say_v the_o jesuite_n whether_o i_o be_v able_a to_o show_v one_o point_n wherein_o they_o have_v break_v that_o harmony_n which_o irenics_o commend_v in_o the_o catholic_a church_n of_o his_o time_n i_o answer_v that_o i_o can_v very_o easy_o show_v it_o and_o make_v good_a withal_o what_o i_o say_v in_o my_o demand_n and_o 〈◊〉_d which_o he_o keep_v such_o a_o vain_a stir_n to_o wit_n that_o the_o protestant_n agreewith_o that_o ancient_a holy_a church_n in_o very_a few_o point_n of_o religion_n or_o rather_o to_o say_v better_o that_o they_o agree_v not_o in_o any_o one_o point_n at_o all_o 76_o all_o reply_v pag._n 76_o how_o well_o able_a the_o jesuite_n be_v or_o have_v be_v to_o make_v good_a whaâ—_n he_o say_v in_o his_o demand_n will_v be_v examine_v in_o the_o xith_z section_n here_o we_o expect_v what_o point_n of_o doctrine_n he_o â—an_v find_v out_o hold_v by_o we_o wherein_o it_o will_v appear_v that_o we_o vary_v from_o that_o harmony_n which_o irenaeus_n commend_v in_o the_o catholic_a church_n of_o his_o time_n and_o for_o his_o orderly_a â—andling_n 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say_v the_o jesuite_n betwixt_o they_o and_o those_o protestant_n with_o who_o they_o pretend_v this_o harmony_n in_o other_o nation_n ibid._n nation_n reply_v ibid._n so_o that_o it_o seem_v the_o jesuite_n will_v first_o attempt_v to_o prove_v that_o we_o be_v not_o of_o that_o church_n which_o keep_v irenaeus_n his_o harmony_n and_o that_o he_o will_v reserve_v unto_o the_o last_o place_n the_o point_n he_o shall_v prove_v to_o wit_n that_o we_o deny_v the_o catholic_a church_n his_o best_a argument_n to_o manifest_v the_o first_o be_v the_o testimony_n of_o some_o lutheran_n brownist_n and_o puritan_n who_o disclaim_v and_o discard_v our_o answerer_n and_o his_o church_n as_o the_o jesuite_n tell_v we_o from_o all_o this_o pretend_a harmony_n and_o agreement_n with_o he_o ibid._n he_o reply_v ibid._n and_o we_o say_v if_o they_o charge_v we_o so_o deep_o as_o the_o jesuite_n affirm_v that_o this_o be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o prove_v his_o undertake_n see_v that_o doctor_n stapleton_n deny_v the_o father_n and_o especial_o s._n hieroâ—e_n the_o privilege_n of_o testimony_n when_o they_o write_v contentious_o and_o with_o passion_n 〈◊〉_d stapleton_n â—rinc_fw-la doctrinal_a l._n 67._o distinctio_fw-la de_fw-fr his_o 〈◊〉_d à _fw-la pâ—â—â—ibus_fw-la 〈◊〉_d &_o â—â—ae_fw-la coâ—tentio_fw-la â—_o scribuntur_fw-la in_o verbis_fw-la hiero_n 〈◊〉_d locum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d and_o therefore_o these_o rigid_a lutheran_n though_o they_o befriend_v a_o jesuite_n can_v in_o their_o dispute_n be_v allow_v a_o infallible_a privilege_n beside_o these_o lutheran_n which_o the_o jesuite_n urge_v if_o their_o word_n be_v as_o he_o lay_v they_o down_o for_o i_o can_v come_v by_o their_o book_n do_v
reason_n be_v not_o because_o it_o be_v condemn_v by_o the_o roman_a bishop_n or_o his_o roman_a church_n but_o because_o out_o of_o the_o sacred_a scripture_n by_o a_o lawful_a council_n nicen_n council_n council_n nicen_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n it_o be_v detect_v as_o erroneous_a and_o false_a but_o whilst_o our_o adversary_n do_v not_o acknowledge_v any_o such_o superior_a church_n what_o wonder_n say_v the_o jesuite_n that_o they_o live_v forlorn_v consume_v and_o confound_v with_o odious_a discord_n and_o debate_n among_o themselves_o &_o deprive_v of_o all_o true_a faith_n forasmuch_o as_o they_o refuse_v to_o listen_v unto_o she_o by_o who_o god_n have_v decree_v all_o faith_n shall_v be_v deliver_v unto_o his_o people_n throughout_o the_o world_n 81._o world_n reply_v pag._n 81._o this_o be_v but_o fume_a froth_n we_o acknowledge_v a_o catholic_n church_n as_o superior_a to_o all_o particular_a church_n in_o the_o world_n but_o we_o say_v your_o roman_a be_v so_o far_o from_o be_v it_o that_o it_o gain_v well_o if_o it_o appear_v a_o true_a member_n thereof_o when_o it_o come_v to_o be_v examine_v what_o be_v there_o no_o god_n but_o at_o dan_n and_o bethel_n must_v your_o calf_n measure_v true_a worship_n or_o your_o excommunicate_v the_o levite_n make_v the_o catholic_n to_o be_v no_o church_n it_o be_v not_o your_o censure_v of_o all_o other_o for_o heretic_n that_o can_v exempt_v you_o from_o be_v schismatickes_n any_o more_o than_o the_o donatist_n which_o do_v the_o like_a be_v then_o alien_n from_o this_o church_n wherein_o &_o no_o where_o else_o the_o right_a christian_a faith_n be_v certain_a to_o be_v find_v they_o must_v not_o wonder_v say_v the_o jesuite_n that_o we_o shall_v thus_o bewail_v they_o as_o perish_v and_o lose_v â—â—_o lose_v reply_v pag._n â—â—_o for_o your_o bewail_v we_o as_o perish_v and_o lose_v it_o be_v but_o a_o fetch_n of_o your_o hypocrisy_n i_o can_v wish_v your_o tear_n if_o you_o shed_v any_o be_v bestow_v upon_o yourselves_o who_o need_v they_o we_o 〈◊〉_d know_v the_o temper_n of_o your_o tear_n too_o well_o how_o bewail_v you_o the_o french_a massacre_n the_o butchery_n of_o prince_n but_o with_o tear_n of_o blood_n with_o groan_n of_o applause_n three_o applause_n see_v the_o oration_n of_o pope_n sixtus_n the_o five_o upon_o the_o death_n of_o the_o french_a king_n henry_n the_o three_o the_o place_n which_o you_o bring_v out_o of_o the_o father_n against_o schismatickes_n do_v most_o proper_o point_v out_o yourselves_o and_o therefore_o ill_o choose_v to_o discredit_v we_o take_v then_o your_o own_o charge_n unto_o yourselves_o who_o just_o deserve_v it_o for_o howsoever_o you_o glory_n as_o if_o you_o only_o have_v the_o church_n of_o christ_n which_o we_o do_v not_o it_o will_v not_o therefore_o follow_v that_o you_o belong_v unto_o his_o consecration_n in_o regard_n you_o be_v separate_v from_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n keep_v neither_o communion_n nor_o unity_n with_o the_o whole_a &_o be_v sequester_v by_o yourselves_o do_v censure_v all_o that_o will_v not_o forsake_v the_o liberty_n of_o christ_n and_o hold_v from_o you_o in_o villainy_n and_o vassalage_n whereas_o the_o jesuite_n think_v to_o despise_v the_o answerers_n church_n by_o his_o frame_n of_o folly_n and_o falsehood_n term_v it_o â—_o church_n lurk_v in_o a_o corner_n of_o the_o earth_n obscure_a and_o in_o glorious_a that_o can_v neither_o obtain_v friendship_n with_o any_o abroad_o nor_o yet_o maintain_v agreement_n in_o itself_o at_o home_n 8._o home_n reply_v pag._n 8._o we_o know_v the_o true_a church_n many_o time_n do_v lurk_v when_o the_o where_o sit_v as_o queen_n and_o know_v no_o sorrow_n 2._o sorrow_n rev._n 18._o 2._o yet_o it_o be_v not_o so_o obscure_a but_o it_o have_v enlighten_v the_o world_n that_o it_o can_v despise_v your_o outward_a glory_n and_o deride_v your_o lie_n in_o hypocrisy_n your_o tale_n of_o hobgoblin_n your_o deceit_n from_o purgatory_n your_o holiness_n for_o gain_v and_o new_a declarative_a doctrine_n second_o we_o hold_v peace_n with_o the_o catholic_n church_n as_o have_v be_v manifest_v when_o you_o have_v and_o do_v real_o excommunicate_v it_o and_o in_o fundamental_n both_o with_o they_o and_o among_o ourselves_o we_o be_v faithful_o knit_v together_o although_o there_o be_v some_o difference_n in_o matter_n of_o nâ—_n absolute_a consequence_n which_o the_o pure_a church_n have_v be_v ever_o subject_a unto_o when_o you_o be_v not_o agree_v who_o be_v only_o able_a to_o teach_v uncontroulâ—ably_o a_o infallible_a point_n of_o doctrine_n whether_o a_o council_n or_o the_o pope_n superest_fw-la pope_n francise_n â—icus_fw-la theorem_fw-la 16._o fuere_fw-la qui_fw-la diâ—erent_fw-la concilium_fw-la in_o â—ausa_fw-la fidei_fw-la praeesse_fw-la pontifici_fw-la fuêre_fw-la qui_fw-la pontificem_fw-la concilio_n praeponerent_fw-la alia_fw-la etiam_fw-la quaestio_fw-la utrum_fw-la sine_fw-la pontifice_fw-la utrum_fw-la â—o_o â—efragante_fw-la convocari_fw-la colligique_fw-la possit_fw-la bellarm_n l._n 2._o de_fw-fr conciliâ—_n cap._n 13._o §_o sed_fw-la dum_fw-la usque_fw-la ad_fw-la hunc_fw-la diem_fw-la quaestio_fw-la superest_fw-la when_o your_o church_n be_v so_o far_o from_o hold_v friendship_n with_o other_o churchâ—â—_n that_o it_o malicious_o set_v itself_o against_o the_o whole_a raiâ—ing_v war_n and_o tumult_n against_o the_o true_a member_n thereof_o as_o late_o against_o the_o greek_n and_o eveâ—_n against_o that_o part_n of_o the_o latin_a church_n that_o refuse_v her_o command_n as_o the_o monk_n of_o bangor_n the_o waldense_n etc._n etc._n can_v well_o witness_v and_o although_o you_o be_v continual_o speak_v of_o dissension_n yet_o the_o best_a judgement_n &_o wise_a eye_n that_o our_o age_n have_v afford_v have_v find_v your_o peace_n to_o be_v but_o the_o outward_a effect_n of_o policy_n not_o natural_a from_o truth_n but_o force_v from_o your_o bloody_a laweâ—_n and_o cruel_a 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principio_fw-la reply_v pag._n 20_o etc._n etc._n here_o any_o man_n may_v see_v that_o this_o jesuite_n dare_v not_o stand_v to_o his_o accept_a motion_n to_o be_v try_v by_o moses_n and_o the_o prophet_n christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n the_o sacred_a scripture_n and_o therefore_o he_o labour_v to_o weaken_v the_o strength_n thereof_o but_o let_v he_o mantle_n himself_o in_o his_o pretence_n never_o so_o much_o this_o be_v sufficient_a to_o declare_v that_o a_o change_n have_v be_v make_v which_o be_v all_o that_o the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n desire_v to_o conclude_v so_o that_o if_o we_o can_v declare_v that_o papist_n no_o protestant_n in_o their_o change_n make_v have_v fall_v from_o the_o purity_n of_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o primitive_a time_n the_o jesuite_n will_v rest_v like_o a_o franciscan_a novice_n demure_a and_o tongue-tied_a for_o ever_o for_o the_o three_o first_o instance_n we_o confess_v that_o a_o change_n have_v be_v make_v and_o that_o herein_o we_o 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to_o each_o other_o ver_fw-la 11._o and_o be_v like_o a_o trumpeter_n that_o strike_v amazement_n but_o stir_v up_o no_o devotion_n unless_o a_o blind_a and_o a_o distract_a one_o when_o the_o trumpet_n give_v but_o a_o uncertain_a sound_n 8._o sound_n â—_o 8._o whereby_o it_o be_v apparent_a that_o all_o popish_a prayer_n whether_o private_a or_o public_a be_v make_v in_o opposition_n of_o these_o ground_n lay_v down_o by_o the_o apostle_n under_o these_o poor_a pretence_n that_o the_o efficacy_n of_o the_o prayer_n consist_v in_o the_o very_a virtue_n of_o the_o work_n chapter_n â—hum_fw-la upon_o the_o 13._o verse_n of_o this_o chapter_n etc._n etc._n that_o the_o public_a church_n service_n be_v direct_v principal_o to_o the_o worship_n of_o almighty_a god_n and_o not_o to_o instruct_v and_o edify_v the_o hearer_n 23._o reply_v pag._n 23._o that_o it_o perâ—â—neth_v much_o more_o to_o unity_n chapter_n rhem._n upon_o the_o 11._o verse_n of_o this_o chapter_n that_o man_n shall_v 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scripture_n which_o be_v call_v canonical_a but_o in_o other_o among_o which_o be_v also_o the_o book_n of_o the_o macchabeas_a which_o not_o the_o iâ—wes_n but_o the_o church_n have_v for_o canonical_a for_o the_o vehement_a and_o wonderful_a suffering_n of_o 〈◊〉_d martyr_n and_o so_o in_o a_o other_o place_n â—â—â—aith_o that_o the_o scripture_n of_o the_o 〈◊〉_d be_v not_o receive_v of_o the_o jew_n as_o the_o law_n the_o prophet_n and_o psalm_n to_o which_o god_n give_v testimony_n â—â—_o to_o his_o own_o witness_n yet_o he_o deny_v not_o but_o the_o church_n receive_v they_o not_o unprofitable_o but_o wherein_o lie_v their_o profit_n s._n augustine_n declare_v sâ—_n 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o sober_a read_n and_o hear_v of_o they_o read_v for_o isiodorus_n &_o cassâ—dorus_n their_o testimony_n make_v noâ—_n the_o receive_a doctrine_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n neither_o can_v those_o term_n of_o holy_a and_o divine_a wherewith_o 〈…〉_o â—_o bellarm._n de_fw-fr verbo_fw-la dei_fw-la lib._n l._n 〈◊〉_d 4_o po_n 〈◊〉_d de_fw-fr ijs_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d vino_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d &c_n &c_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d illo_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d quae_fw-la 〈◊〉_d ab_fw-la 〈◊〉_d epist_n 3._o ad_fw-la â—â—per_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 15._o â—â—â—_o
〈◊〉_d by_o 〈◊〉_d â—all_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n and_o the_o council_n of_o 〈◊〉_d canone_o 〈…〉_o these_o book_n be_v omit_v â—â—â—â—_o part_n of_o the_o 〈◊〉_d scripture_n three_o the_o repute_a 47._o canon_n of_o the_o three_o council_n of_o carthage_n which_o be_v their_o chief_a testimony_n by_o the_o judgement_n of_o their_o own_o be_v never_o determinâ—â—â—â—_n that_o synod_n convocaâ—â—m_fw-la â—arclaij_fw-la paraenesis_n l._n 1._o c._n â—1_n refertur_fw-la â—ic_fw-la canoâ—_n council_n 3._o carthaginensi_fw-la cvi_fw-la augustinus_n interâ—â—it_fw-la sed_fw-la ex_fw-la 〈◊〉_d constat_fw-la posterioris_fw-la concilij_fw-la esse_fw-la quod_fw-la paulo_fw-la post_fw-la sub_fw-la boni_fw-la â—â—cio_fw-la convocaâ—â—m_fw-la four_o in_o after_o age_n they_o be_v by_o many_o reject_v a_o never_o get_v authority_n till_o the_o trent_n decree_n beside_o these_o book_n will_v by_o their_o own_o light_n declare_v of_o what_o authority_n they_o be_v the_o 〈◊〉_d i_o hope_v will_v grant_v that_o god_n be_v as_o true_a in_o his_o word_n as_o the_o pope_n infallible_a in_o his_o decree_n &_o if_o upon_o this_o ground_n these_o book_n deserve_v credit_n let_v the_o reader_n conclude_v first_o for_o judeth_n whether_o it_o be_v â—squam_fw-la or_o ullâ—bi_fw-la we_o can_v tell_v neither_o i_o think_v the_o jesuite_n himself_o again_o she_o honour_v that_o fact_n of_o siâ—â—on_n 2_o siâ—â—on_n caâ—â—s_n loco_fw-la â—â—pra_fw-la citat_fw-la constat_fw-la auâ—em_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d doctisâ—imoâ—_n in_o contrariam_fw-la sententiam_fw-la 〈◊〉_d qui_fw-la tamen_fw-la semper_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la catholica_fw-la sunt_fw-la habiti_fw-la nich._n lyâ—an_n super_fw-la 〈◊〉_d â—_o 1._o &_o super_fw-la tobiâ—â—_n abuleâ—â—â—s_fw-la super_fw-la math._n c._n 1._o d._n aâ—â—on_n 3._o p._n â—_o 1â—_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d loâ—â—_n tum_fw-la maxim_n in_o fine_a 〈◊〉_d super_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etiam_fw-la sex_n â—â—cros_fw-la esse_fw-la 〈◊〉_d gelaâ—â—â—â—_n pâ—pa_fw-la rejecit_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d macha_n diâ—â—â—_n autem_fw-la gregorius_n l._n moral_a â—â—_o rejjoâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d de_fw-fr tâ—â—â—poribus_fw-la &_o rich_a l._n 2._o exceptioâ—â—â—_n c._n 9_o &_o ocham_n â—â—_o diâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d 1._o l._n 3._o 〈◊〉_d ac_fw-la d._n aug_n docet_fw-la aâ—_n ecclesia_fw-la esse_fw-la quid_fw-la they_o receptos_fw-la seâ—â—â—â—_n certa_fw-la side_n 〈◊〉_d 9_o 2_o and_o levy_n which_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n abhor_v as_o appear_v by_o moses_n 5._o moses_n gen._n 49._o 5._o and_o we_o may_v see_v that_o judeth_n fit_v herself_o for_o lie_n and_o deceit_n 10_o deceit_n 〈◊〉_d 9_o 10_o desire_v god_n to_o give_v a_o blessing_n thereunto_o 13._o thereunto_o ver._n 13._o which_o action_n as_o it_o condemn_v the_o person_n that_o do_v the_o same_o so_o do_v it_o disgrace_v this_o book_n which_o speak_v â—â—_o direct_o opposite_a to_o the_o apostolical_a rule_n 25._o rule_n eph._n 4._o 25._o and_o as_o judeth_n do_v detect_v herself_o so_o do_v tobit_n also_o by_o his_o vain_a story_n of_o the_o rival_n devil_n 14._o devil_n tob_z 6._o 14._o &_o the_o drive_v away_o of_o a_o devil_n or_o a_o evil_a spirit_n which_o shall_v trouble_v any_o with_o the_o smoke_n of_o the_o heart_n and_o the_o liver_n of_o a_o fish_n 7_o fish_n tâ—â—_n 6._o 7_o contrary_a to_o christ_n doctrine_n that_o there_o be_v some_o devil_n which_o will_v not_o be_v cast_v out_o but_o by_o fast_v and_o prayer_n 21._o prayer_n mat._n 17._o 21._o and_o wherefore_o shall_v the_o apostle_n eph_n 6._o 13._o have_v leave_v this_o out_o of_o his_o armoury_n if_o it_o have_v be_v of_o such_o forâ—â—_n &_o efficacy_n as_o be_v here_o express_v further_o we_o have_v a_o angel_n lye_v chap._n 5._o verse_n â—â—_o and_o a_o fish_n travail_v on_o land_n chap._n 6._o verse_n 2._o the_o macchabee_n contain_v many_o thing_n which_o declaâ—â—_n the_o author_n of_o they_o not_o to_o write_v with_o confidence_n of_o godâ—_n spirit_n asi_v he_o as_o first_o that_o he_o be_v a_o epitoâ—â—ist_n of_o â—â—son_n 23._o â—â—son_n 2._o maccà b_n 2._o 23._o second_o he_o excuse_v himself_o 39_o himself_o 2_o maccab._n â—5_n 39_o as_o if_o the_o holy_a ghost_n may_v deserve_v a_o censure_n three_o it_o appear_v that_o his_o end_n be_v to_o delight_v his_o reader_n 40._o reader_n 2._o maccab._n 2_o 25._o 15._o 40._o and_o to_o get_v honour_n to_o himself_o â—7_n himself_o 2._o maccab._n 2_o â—6_n â—7_n last_o he_o justifi_v razis_n in_o kill_v himself_o 43._o himself_o 2._o macâ—ab_n 14_o 41._o 42._o 43._o a_o commendation_n fit_a for_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d than_o the_o patient_a martyr_n of_o christ_n as_o s._n augustine_n christi_fw-la aug._n câ—n_n gâ—ud_n l._n c_o 31._o dictum_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la 〈◊〉_d nobiliter_fw-la merit_n meâ—us_fw-la veller_n hâ—militer_fw-la â—â—â—_o enim_fw-la 〈◊〉_d illiâ—autem_fw-la verbis_fw-la historia_fw-la gentium_fw-la â—â—â—dare_fw-la 〈◊〉_d sed_fw-la viros_fw-la 〈◊〉_d huius_fw-la â—â—culi_fw-la non_fw-la martyrâ—â—_n christi_fw-la observe_v to_o these_o many_o more_o may_v be_v add_v but_o this_o which_o have_v be_v speak_v will_v suffice_v to_o show_v that_o they_o have_v deal_v without_o all_o conscience_n in_o obtrude_a those_o book_n upon_o the_o church_n which_o be_v never_o as_o canonical_a receive_v from_o the_o jew_n unto_o who_o be_v commit_v the_o oracle_n of_o god_n 2._o god_n rom._n 3._o 2._o never_o deliver_v to_o the_o primitive_a church_n from_o the_o apostle_n never_o approve_v by_o any_o father_n of_o the_o church_n for_o almost_o 400_o year_n never_o think_v of_o when_o the_o canon_n be_v repeat_v &_o such_o which_o by_o their_o physiognomy_n detect_v themselves_o whence_o we_o may_v gather_v that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n now_o have_v vary_v in_o her_o judgement_n from_o the_o church_n of_o god_n then_o although_o we_o be_v not_o able_a to_o lay_v down_o the_o precise_a time_n when_o she_o think_v herself_o wise_a than_o her_o forefather_n herein_o neither_o will_v his_o turn_n to_o the_o epistle_n of_o james_n jude_n the_o second_o of_o peter_n 2d_o peter_n reply_v pag._n 2d_o &c_n &c_n any_o thing_n avail_v his_o cause_n in_o regard_n there_o be_v a_o great_a difference_n betwixt_o those_o epistle_n &_o these_o book_n of_o judeth_n tobit_n and_o the_o macchabee_n for_o although_o some_o private_a man_n do_v doubt_n of_o the_o former_a yet_o the_o church_n in_o general_n do_v receive_v and_o approve_v the_o fame_n â—5_n fame_n see_v before_o pag._n â—5_n whereas_o on_o the_o contrary_a the_o jesuite_n after_o all_o his_o search_n can_v find_v â—â—â—_o testimony_n either_o of_o father_n or_o council_n that_o accounâ—â—â—_n the_o latter_a canonical_a for_o well-nigh_o 400_o year_n after_o christ_n and_o therefore_o most_o indiscreet_o do_v the_o jesuit_n urge_v 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d to_o prove_v the_o like_a doubt_n to_o have_v be_v hold_v of_o these_o epistle_n with_o those_o book_n which_o they_o absolute_o call_v apocrypha_fw-la second_o he_o abuse_v his_o reader_n when_o he_o will_v persuade_v that_o they_o be_v ove_o particular_a father_n that_o doubt_v of_o these_o book_n when_o the_o jesuite_n can_v find_v that_o they_o be_v receive_v either_o of_o the_o jew_n or_o the_o apostle_n or_o primitive_a father_n for_o certain_a age_n after_o christ_n three_o to_o what_o thought_n of_o desperation_n be_v he_o and_o his_o fellow_n drive_v to_o defend_v this_o add_v to_o the_o canon_n as_o first_o that_o doubtful_a writing_n which_o have_v be_v account_v apocryphal_a for_o certain_a hundred_o of_o year_n which_o our_o jesuite_n call_v sometime_o may_v by_o the_o public_a authority_n of_o the_o church_n be_v declare_v canonical_a and_o second_o that_o particular_a father_n which_o indeed_o be_v all_o the_o father_n that_o live_v in_o the_o first_o 300._o almost_o 400._o year_n the_o jesuite_n cite_v none_o within_o that_o compass_n but_o cyprian_a and_o their_o bastard_n calixtuâ—_n as_o have_v be_v former_o declare_v may_v doubt_v of_o the_o authority_n of_o those_o book_n without_o prejudice_n till_o the_o church_n have_v declare_v they_o for_o canonical_a by_o public_a authority_n but_o if_o the_o canon_n be_v not_o complete_a in_o the_o first_o time_n i_o will_v know_v when_o it_o be_v make_v perfect_a and_o whether_o in_o those_o time_n tradition_n be_v enable_v to_o declare_v the_o same_o or_o whether_o the_o father_n be_v negligent_a to_o testify_v this_o truth_n and_o also_o whether_o canonical_a and_o apocryphal_a be_v a_o distinction_n late_o invent_v all_o this_o the_o jesuite_n must_v resolve_v or_o else_o acknowledge_v the_o canon_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o primitive_a time_n to_o be_v certain_o know_v and_o settle_v which_o will_v declare_v their_o vanity_n and_o change_n in_o these_o last_o time_n to_o add_v unto_o the_o sacred_a canon_n and_o rule_n of_o faith_n upon_o pretence_n that_o the_o church_n have_v power_n to_o declare_v canonical_a scripture_n a_o doctrine_n invent_v in_o after-age_n by_o the_o roman_a faction_n who_o as_o they_o look_v for_o unlimited_a power_n so_o to_o defend_v their_o practice_n they_o desire_v a_o unrestrayned_a rule_n make_v scripture_n what_o
sed_fw-la iâ—_n praescripto_fw-la legis_fw-la in_fw-la prophetarum_fw-la praedictis_fw-la in_fw-la psalmorum_fw-la cantibus_fw-la in_fw-la ipsius_fw-la pastoris_fw-la vocibus_fw-la in_fw-la evangeliâ—â—aâ—um_fw-la praedicationâ—bus_fw-la &_o laboribus_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la in_fw-la omnibus_fw-la canonicis_fw-la sanctâ—â—um_fw-la librâ—â—â—m_fw-la authoritatibus_fw-la how_o fair_o this_o heretic_n augustine_n oppose_v this_o catholic_a jesuite_n and_o further_o the_o same_o father_n in_o a_o point_n of_o controversy_n open_o profess_v we_o ought_v not_o to_o depart_v from_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o divine_a scripture_n to_o which_o alone_o in_o this_o matter_n faith_n be_v to_o be_v give_v debemus_fw-la give_v aug_n de_fw-fr gen._n ad_fw-la liâ—_n l._n 12._o c._n 33._o ab_fw-la authoritate_fw-la divinarum_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la quibus_fw-la 〈◊〉_d lis_fw-fr de_fw-fr hac_fw-la râ—_n fides_fw-la habenda_fw-la est_fw-la recedere_fw-la non_fw-la debemus_fw-la and_o before_o this_o 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a_o universal_a headship_n and_o pre-eminence_n 50_o reply_v pag._n 50_o for_o the_o other_o phrase_n of_o ecclesiam_fw-la principalem_fw-la it_o make_v it_o not_o the_o
pont._n l_o 4._o c._n 7_o cyprianus_n pertinaciter_fw-la restitit_fw-la stephano_n pontifici_fw-la doâ—â—â—ienti_fw-la haereticos_fw-la non_fw-la rebaprixandâ—â—_n ut_fw-la patet_fw-la ex_fw-la epistola_fw-la ejusdem_fw-la cypriani_fw-la ad_fw-la pompeiâ—â—_n &_o tamen_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la non_fw-la fuit_fw-la haereticus_fw-la sed_fw-la neque_fw-la mortaliter_fw-la peccavit_fw-la et_fw-la tamen_fw-la ecâ—â—esia_n cypriaâ—um_fw-la ut_fw-la sanctam_fw-la colit_fw-la qui_fw-la non_fw-la videtur_fw-la unquam_fw-la resipuisse_fw-la ab_fw-la illo_fw-la svo_fw-la error_n to_o the_o african_a bishop_n in_o the_o cause_n of_o appeal_v fuerunt_fw-la appeal_v epist_n bonifacii_n â—_o ad_fw-la alex._n episc_n aurelius_n enim_fw-la praefatae_fw-la carthaginensis_n ecclesiae_fw-la olim_fw-la episcopus_fw-la cum_fw-la câ—llegis_fw-la suiâ—_n instigante_fw-la diabolo_fw-it superbire_fw-la temporibus_fw-la praedecessorum_fw-la noâ—â—â—orum_fw-la bonifacii_n atque_fw-la coelestiâ—i_fw-la 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the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o prosper_v time_n in_o regard_n of_o her_o outward_a eminency_n to_o be_v make_v the_o head_n of_o pastoral_a honour_n unto_o the_o world_n 52_o world_n reply_v pag._n 52_o and_o that_o she_o be_v more_o conspicuous_a by_o be_v a_o tower_n to_o religion_n in_o defend_v the_o faith_n against_o heretic_n then_o by_o exercise_v any_o power_n not_o temporal_a prosper_n temporal_a no_o such_o word_n in_o the_o original_a quotation_n out_o of_o prosper_n as_o the_o jesuite_n add_v but_o ecclesiastical_a that_o be_v give_v he_o by_o counsel_n whereby_o we_o may_v see_v the_o difference_n betwixt_o rome_n now_o and_o then_o their_o eminency_n their_o honour_n than_o be_v extend_v arce_fw-la religionis_fw-la by_o defend_v the_o true_a faith_n your_o holy_a father_n now_o seek_v advancement_n solio_fw-la potestatis_fw-la by_o obtain_v a_o monarchy_n and_o bring_v all_o power_n but_o hell_n that_o must_v triumph_v over_o you_o â—â—_o you_o revel_v 19_o â—â—_o into_o 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as_o chief_a in_o the_o call_n of_o all_o nation_n â—5_n nation_n reply_v pag_n â—5_n etc._n etc._n and_o we_o tell_v he_o that_o pope_n leo_n do_v speak_v more_o for_o peter_n to_o advance_v himself_o than_o it_o be_v probable_a he_o will_v otherwise_o have_v do_v if_o his_o chair_n have_v not_o meet_v with_o some_o opposition_n in_o those_o time_n for_o leo_n make_v christ_n mark_v the_o ten_o to_o reprehend_v the_o desire_n of_o that_o power_n which_o in_o the_o jesuite_n quotation_n he_o seem_v to_o give_v to_o s._n peter_n ministrare_fw-la peter_n leo_n epist_n 55._o ad_fw-la pulcher._n augustam_fw-la de_fw-la ambitu_fw-la anatolij_fw-la et_fw-la ille_fw-la veer_fw-mi crit_fw-fr magnus_fw-la qui_fw-fr fucrit_fw-fr totius_fw-la ambitionis_fw-la alicant_n dicente_fw-la domino_fw-la quicunque_fw-la voluerit_fw-la inter_fw-la vos_fw-la major_a sicri_fw-la sit_fw-la vester_fw-ge minister_v et_fw-la quicunque_fw-la voluerit_fw-la inter_fw-la vos_fw-la primus_fw-la esse_fw-la erit_fw-la 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cusanus_fw-la can_v deny_v that_o all_o bishop_n be_v the_o successor_n of_o peter_n petri_n peter_n nich._n de_fw-fr cusa_n card._n l._n 2._o de_fw-fr concord_n cath_z c._n 13._o non_fw-la possumus_fw-la negare_fw-la omnes_fw-la episeopos_n esse_fw-la ejusdem_fw-la successores_fw-la scilicet_fw-la petri_n and_o s._n chrysostome_n in_o the_o very_a place_n cite_v by_o the_o jesuite_n express_v himself_o to_o be_v free_a from_o the_o conceit_n that_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v s._n peter_n only_a successor_n for_o why_o shall_v he_o persuade_v basil_n to_o be_v mind_n full_a of_o his_o duty_n he_o be_v a_o bishop_n from_o this_o reason_n because_o christ_n say_v to_o peter_n love_v thou_o i_o feed_v my_o sheep_n and_o because_o the_o care_n of_o his_o sheep_n be_v commit_v to_o peter_n and_o his_o successor_n section_n successor_n see_v chrysostom_n testimony_n produce_v before_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o section_n if_o he_o have_v not_o be_v one_o of_o they_o this_o title_n 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himself_o now_o come_v the_o bishop_n of_o ravenna_n peter_n chrysologus_fw-la in_o his_o epistle_n to_o eutyches_n you_o be_v not_o much_o behold_v to_o that_o see_v that_o you_o shall_v bring_v a_o bishop_n from_o thence_o to_o give_v testimony_n for_o you_o but_o what_o say_v he_o we_o desire_v thou_o honourable_a brother_n that_o thou_o will_v listen_v dutiful_o unto_o those_o thing_n which_o
in_o the_o act_n viz._n a_o bishopric_n â—â—_o bishopric_n rhem_n 〈◊〉_d upon_o luk_n â—_o â—â—_o and_o although_o the_o jesuite_n now_o see_v that_o peter_n can_v be_v no_o monarch_n by_o his_o apostleship_n such_o extraordinary_a power_n be_v give_v to_o other_o yet_o it_o have_v be_v that_o which_o they_o ever_o pretend_v to_o exalt_v he_o who_o they_o will_v have_v to_o be_v peter_n successor_n and_o the_o monarch_n of_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o they_o have_v have_v their_o mouth_n and_o rescript_n full_a of_o apostle_n and_o apostleship_n call_v his_o office_n apostleship_n say_v that_o he_o hear_v cause_n with_o his_o apostleship_n why_o shall_v he_o not_o determine_v with_o it_o all_o his_o instrument_n of_o government_n be_v apostolical_a as_o letter_n decree_n mandate_n bull_n pardon_n dispensation_n nay_o what_o have_v he_o that_o be_v not_o apostolic_a whether_o messenger_n or_o legate_n whether_o palace_n chamber_n chancery_n seal_n ego_fw-la seal_n sacraâ—_n ceâ—am_n rom._n eccle_n l_o 1._o reg._n canc._n apostol_n extra_n do_v jurejur_n c._n ego_fw-la etc._n etc._n beside_o how_o many_o of_o the_o jesuite_n counterfeit_v urge_v for_o the_o primacy_n be_v think_v to_o speak_v effectual_o when_o they_o attribute_v to_o the_o pope_n to_o sit_v in_o the_o apostolical_a height_n to_o have_v his_o see_n apostolic_a his_o office_n a_o apostleship_n his_o privilege_n his_o eminency_n apostolical_a four_o he_o will_v have_v tell_v they_o that_o the_o ancient_a father_n declare_v in_o plain_a term_n how_o christ_n ground_v his_o church_n upon_o peter_n mat._n 16._o commit_v his_o flock_n to_o peter_n joh._n 21._o wish_a peter_n to_o confirm_v his_o brethren_n and_o pray_v for_o peter_n faith_n that_o it_o shall_v not_o fail_v luc._n 22._o constitute_v peter_n head_n of_o his_o church_n upon_o earth_n and_o consequent_o thereby_o make_v he_o prince_n chief_z captain_n head_n leader_n and_o prelate_n over_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n 60_o apostle_n reply_v pag._n 60_o but_o whosoever_o will_v weigh_v his_o quotation_n shall_v perceive_v that_o the_o father_n have_v be_v only_o pretend_v by_o he_o they_o disdain_v any_o such_o monarchy_n as_o from_o those_o text_n the_o jesuite_n labour_v to_o collect_v and_o first_o for_o the_o 16._o of_o mat._n although_o the_o father_n do_v sometime_o give_v peter_n the_o name_n of_o the_o rock_n or_o foundation_n upon_o which_o the_o church_n be_v build_v or_o ground_v yet_o their_o meaning_n be_v not_o that_o the_o church_n be_v build_v upon_o peter_n absolute_o and_o personal_o but_o relativelie_o and_o from_o his_o faith_n or_o christ_n that_o he_o confess_v and_o therefore_o hillary_n that_o call_v peter_n the_o foundation_n of_o the_o church_n fundamentum_fw-la church_n hilar._n in_o mat._n 16_o faelix_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la fundamentum_fw-la tell_v we_o that_o not_o only_o to_o say_v but_o also_o to_o believe_v that_o christ_n be_v the_o son_n of_o god_n this_o faith_n be_v the_o foundation_n of_o the_o church_n fundamentum_fw-la church_n hillar_n l._n 6._o de_fw-fr trinitat_fw-la christum_fw-la dei_fw-la silium_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la nuncupare_fw-la sed_fw-la etiam_fw-la credere_fw-la haec_fw-la fides_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la fundamentum_fw-la and_o in_o another_o place_n he_o say_v this_o be_v the_o alone_a happy_a rock_n of_o faith_n confess_v with_o the_o mouth_n of_o peter_n thou_o be_v the_o son_n of_o the_o everliving_a god_n vivi_fw-la god_n idem_fw-la l._n 2._o de_fw-fr trinitat_fw-la una_fw-la â—â—aec_fw-la est_fw-la faelix_fw-la fidei_fw-la petra_n petri_n ore_fw-la confessa_fw-la tu_fw-la es_fw-la filius_fw-la dei_fw-la vivi_fw-la s._n basill_n also_o say_v that_o christ_n be_v true_o a_o rock_n unmoveable_a but_o peter_n be_v so_o from_o the_o rockâ—_n christ_n petram_fw-la christ_n basil_n serm_n de_fw-fr pâ—niten_n christus_fw-la verè_fw-la petra_n est_fw-la inconcussa_fw-la petrus_n vero_fw-la propter_fw-la petram_fw-la and_o s._n ambrose_n conclude_v vocaretur_fw-la conclude_v ambros_n ser_fw-mi â—_o recte_fw-la igitur_fw-la qui_fw-la petra_n christus_fw-la simon_n nuncupaâ—â—s_fw-fr est_fw-fr petrus_n â—â—_o qui_fw-fr cum_fw-la domino_fw-la fidei_fw-la societatem_fw-la habebat_fw-la cum_fw-la domino_fw-la haberet_fw-la &_o nominis_fw-la dominici_n unitatem_fw-la ut_fw-la siqut_fw-la à _fw-la christo_fw-la christianus_n dicitur_fw-la ita_fw-la &_o à _fw-la petra_n christo_fw-la petrus_n apostolus_fw-la vocaretur_fw-la that_o right_o therefore_o because_o christ_n be_v the_o rock_n be_v simon_n call_v peter_n that_o so_o he_o that_o have_v a_o society_n of_o faith_n with_o his_o lord_n may_v also_o have_v the_o unity_n of_o his_o name_n that_o as_o a_o christian_a take_v his_o denomination_n from_o christ_n so_o peter_n the_o apostle_n may_v â—â—ke_v his_o name_n from_o the_o rock_n christ_n so_o also_o say_v gregory_n nissen_n the_o lord_n be_v the_o rock_n of_o faith_n even_o the_o foundation_n as_o the_o lord_n himself_o say_v to_o the_o prince_n of_o the_o apostle_n then_o be_v peter_n and_o upon_o this_o rock_n i_o will_v build_v my_o church_n 〈◊〉_d church_n gregor_n nissenus_n cap._n postremo_fw-la testimoniorum_fw-la con_fw-mi judaeos_fw-la dominus_fw-la est_fw-la peâ—â—â—_n fidei_fw-la â—â—â—quam_fw-la fundamentum_fw-la ut_fw-la ipse_fw-la dominus_fw-la ait_fw-la ad_fw-la principeâ—_n 〈◊〉_d tu_fw-la es_fw-la petrus_n &_o super_fw-la â—anc_fw-la petram_fw-la aedificabo_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la 〈◊〉_d and_o s._n augustine_n teach_v we_o that_o the_o church_n be_v found_v upon_o a_o rock_n from_o whence_o even_o peter_n take_v his_o name_n for_o the_o rock_n take_v not_o its_o denomination_n from_o peter_n but_z peter_z from_o the_o rock_n even_o as_o christ_n take_v not_o his_o name_n from_o christian_n but_o a_o christian_a from_o christ_n voco_fw-la christ_n august_n truâ—â—_n 124._o in_o johan._n ecclesia_fw-la fundata_fw-la est_fw-la super_fw-la petram_fw-la â—â—_o de_fw-fr &_o petrus_n nomen_fw-la accepit_fw-la non_fw-la enim_fw-la à _fw-la petro_n petra_fw-la siâ—â—_n petrus_n à _fw-fr petra_fw-la siâ—â—_n non_fw-la christus_fw-la à _fw-la christianis_fw-la sed_fw-la christianus_n à _fw-fr christâ—_n voco_fw-la theodoret_n shall_v conclude_v for_o this_o particular_a who_o tell_v we_o that_o bless_a peter_n or_o rather_o the_o lord_n himself_o lay_v the_o foundation_n for_o when_o peter_n say_v thou_o be_v christ_n the_o son_n of_o the_o live_a god_n the_o lord_n say_v upon_o this_o rock_n i_o will_v build_v my_o church_n be_v not_o you_o therefore_o denominate_v from_o man_n for_o christ_n be_v the_o foundation_n 〈◊〉_d foundation_n theodoret._n in_o 1._o cor._n 3._o fundamenâ—â—â—_n jecit_fw-la beatus_fw-la petrus_n vel_fw-la pâ—tius_fw-la ipse_fw-la dominus_fw-la cum_fw-la enim_fw-la dixisset_fw-la petrus_n tu_fw-la es_fw-la christuâ—_n filius_fw-la der_fw-mi viâ—â—_n dixir_n domiâ—â—_n super_fw-la hanc_fw-la 〈◊〉_d â—rarâ—_n aedificabo_fw-la ecclesiammean_n ne_o voâ—â—â—_n go_v denominaâ—â—_n ab_fw-la hominibus_fw-la christus_fw-la 〈◊〉_d â—â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d so_o that_o the_o jesuite_n may_v see_v how_o peter_n be_v the_o rock_n and_o foundation_n by_o confess_v and_o preach_v christ_n the_o true_a rock_n the_o latter_a of_o which_o duty_n to_o wit_v preach_v christ_n be_v so_o bitter_a â—nto_n their_o pope_n that_o i_o think_v they_o have_v rather_o forsake_v their_o rock-ship_n then_o be_v tie_v thereunto_o and_o as_o the_o church_n be_v not_o otherwise_o ground_v upon_o peter_n than_o you_o have_v hear_v from_o the_o father_n so_o neither_o be_v the_o flock_n of_o christ_n io._n 21._o commit_v to_o peter_n in_o the_o roman_a sense_n for_o feed_v be_v not_o domineer_a &_o that_o which_o before_o do_v point_n out_o a_o shepherd_n must_v not_o now_o constitute_v a_o prince_n or_o monarch_n but_o not_o to_o descant_v upon_o this_o place_n in_o every_o particular_a the_o jesuite_n may_v take_v notice_n that_o there_o want_v not_o father_n that_o think_v the_o other_o apostle_n have_v as_o much_o interest_n in_o feed_v as_o peter_n himself_o and_o that_o he_o receive_v no_o new_a power_n by_o his_o pasce_fw-la oves_fw-la this_o be_v clear_a from_o the_o reason_n that_o the_o father_n give_v wherefore_o christ_n speak_v only_o to_o peter_n as_o first_o not_o to_o give_v he_o a_o new_a power_n and_o commission_n but_o to_o stir_v he_o up_o to_o contesse_v his_o lord_z thrice_o as_o before_o he_o deny_v he_o so_o augustine_n tract_n in_o johan_n 123._o cyrillus_n in_o johan._n lib._n 12._o cap._n 64._o second_o that_o he_o may_v renew_v the_o apostle_n ship_n for_o so_o say_v cyrill_n but_o christ_n say_v fiede_n my_o lamb_n renew_v unto_o he_o the_o dignity_n of_o his_o apostleship_n lest_o it_o may_v seem_v to_o be_v lâ—st_o for_o his_o denial_n which_o happen_v by_o humane_a informitie_n videreâ—â—â—_n informitie_n cyrillâ—â—_n in_o io._n l._n 12._o c_o 64._o dixit_fw-la autem_fw-la pasce_fw-la agâ—â—â—_n 〈◊〉_d apostolâ—â—â—s_fw-la ei_fw-la renouâ—â—â—â—_n dignitatem_fw-la ne_fw-la propter_fw-la â—egatioâ—em_fw-la quae_fw-la humanâ—_n 〈◊〉_d accidit_fw-la lâ—befactaâ—i_fw-la videreâ—â—â—_n what_o new_a power_n be_v here_o give_v what_o ordinary_a jurisdiction_n that_o ordinary_o do_v not_o belong_v to_o the_o rest_n here_o be_v the_o old_a apostleship_n renew_v to_o peter_n which_o by_o denial_n of_o his_o master_n he_o
may_v fear_v he_o have_v lose_v this_o be_v all_o we_o find_v by_o the_o ancient_a in_o pasce_fw-la oves_fw-la and_o if_o the_o jesuite_n will_v permit_v it_o with_o patience_n beside_o the_o place_n former_o cite_v their_o own_o counterfeit_n that_o have_v a_o name_n of_o antiquity_n tell_v we_o that_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n receive_v honour_n &_o power_n in_o equal_a fellowship_n with_o peter_n acâ—â—â—erunt_fw-la peter_n anaâ—letus_fw-la ad_fw-la â—pisâ—_n italiae_n epist_n 2._o do_v 21._o c._n in_o â—oâ—o_fw-la teâ—â—â—m_fw-la â—â—eeti_fw-la verò_fw-la apostoli_fw-la â—â—m_fw-la codem_fw-la pâ—ri_fw-la consortio_fw-la honoâ—em_fw-la &_o potestatem_fw-la acâ—â—â—erunt_fw-la and_o ambrose_n will_v not_o favour_n rome_n so_o much_o though_o he_o rule_v at_o milan_n but_o that_o he_o will_v acknowledge_v that_o peter_n do_v not_o only_o receive_v the_o charge_n of_o they_o but_o himself_o and_o all_o bishopâ—_n receive_v it_o with_o peter_n omnes_fw-la peter_n ambros_n de_fw-fr dignit_fw-la sacerd_v â—_o â—_o pasce_fw-la oveâ—â—eat_fw-la quas_fw-la oves_fw-la &_o quem_fw-la â—â—â—gem_fw-la noâ—â—â—lum_fw-la tunc_fw-la 〈◊〉_d susceâ—it_fw-la petrâ—s_fw-la feed_v et_fw-la cum_fw-la illo_fw-la â—â—s_o noâ—_n susceâ—imus_fw-la omnes_fw-la and_o as_o they_o receive_v the_o commission_n with_o peter_n so_o likewise_o do_v they_o perform_v the_o work_n for_o so_o say_v your_o roman_a clergy_n christ_n say_v thâ—â—_n unto_o simon_n love_v thou_o i_o he_o answer_v i_o love_v thou_o he_o say_v unto_o he_o fâ—ede_v my_o lamb_n we_o know_v this_o word_n be_v perform_v by_o the_o very_a act_n of_o peter_n obedience_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o disciple_n do_v so_o likewise_o 〈◊〉_d likewise_o epist_n cleri_fw-la rom._n ad_fw-la clerum_fw-la carth._n apud_fw-la cyprian_n epist_n 3._o sed_fw-la et_fw-la simoni_n fie_o dicit_fw-la diligiâ—_n i_o â—â—spondit_fw-fr diligo_fw-la â—â—_o ei_fw-la pasce_fw-la oves_fw-la hoâ—_n verbum_fw-la factum_fw-la ex_fw-la actu_fw-la ipso_fw-la quo_fw-la cessit_fw-la cognoscimus_fw-la eâ—_n eâ—teri_fw-la discipuli_fw-la similiter_fw-la 〈◊〉_d yea_o this_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o cyprian_a for_o a_o common_a duty_n and_o no_o particular_a prerogative_n of_o peter_n all_o the_o apostle_n be_v paster_n but_o the_o flock_n be_v show_v to_o be_v one_o which_o be_v feed_v of_o all_o the_o apostle_n with_o a_o unanimous_a consent_n pascatur_fw-la consent_n cyprian_a de_fw-fr unitate_fw-la eccles_n eâ—_n 〈◊〉_d â—unt_n 〈◊〉_d sed_fw-la grex_fw-la 〈◊〉_d ostenditur_fw-la qui_fw-la ab_fw-la apostolis_n omnibus_fw-la 〈◊〉_d consensioâ—â—_n pascatur_fw-la and_o therefore_o gregory_n from_o this_o place_n do_v argue_v that_o they_o fail_v of_o love_n to_o christ_n that_o perform_v not_o this_o duty_n of_o feed_v the_o flock_n whosoever_o say_v he_o be_v endue_v with_o gift_n refuse_v to_o â—eede_v the_o lord_n flock_v be_v convince_v not_o to_o love_v the_o chief_a pastor_n aâ—â—râ—_n pastor_n gregor_n l._n 1_o de_fw-la cura_fw-la past_o c_o 5._o si_fw-mi diligis_fw-la i_o paâ—ce_fw-la oves_fw-la meâ—â—_n si_fw-mi ergo_fw-la dilectionis_fw-la est_fw-la testimonium_fw-la cura_fw-la pastonis_fw-la cuique_fw-la virâ—â—tibus_fw-la pollâ—â—_n gregem_fw-la dei_fw-la pascere_fw-la 〈◊〉_d it_o pastorem_fw-la 〈◊〉_d convincitur_fw-la non_fw-la aâ—â—râ—_n neither_o do_v the_o other_o place_n luc._n 22._o in_o the_o â—â—dgment_n of_o the_o ancient_n make_v s._n peter_n otherwise_o then_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n for_o say_v ignatius_n christ_n pray_v that_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o apostle_n shall_v not_o fail_v postolorum_fw-la fail_v ignatius_n ad_fw-la smyrnen_n epistola_fw-la â—_o dominus_fw-la jesus_n châ—â—stus_n rogaviâ—_n ne_o deficâ—ret_a fidâ—â—_n a_o postolorum_fw-la and_o clemene_n tell_v we_o that_o christ_n even_o now_o say_v as_o in_o time_n â—ast_v when_o we_o be_v gather_v together_o i_o have_v ask_v that_o tour_n faith_n shall_v not_o fail_v vestra_fw-la fail_v clemens_n constitut_o l._n 6._o c._n â—_o hic_fw-la dicet_fw-la &_o nunc_fw-la sicut_fw-la &_o antea_fw-la nobis_fw-la in_o unum_fw-la congregatis_fw-la de_fw-la nobis_fw-la aiebat_fw-la rogavi_fw-la ne_fw-la deficiaâ—â—â—des_fw-la vestra_fw-la and_o augustine_n read_v these_o word_n in_o that_o manner_n that_o it_o conclude_v all_o the_o apostle_n i_o have_v pray_v for_o you_o that_o your_o faith_n fail_v not_o vestra_fw-la not_o augustin_n de_fw-fr verbis_fw-la domiâ—i_fw-la in_o luc._n ser_n 36._o igo_n rogavi_fw-la pâ—trem_fw-la pro_fw-la vobâ—â—_n ne_fw-la deficiat_fw-la â—_o des_fw-fr vestra_fw-la whereby_o the_o jesuite_n may_v see_v that_o these_o text_n in_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n make_v not_o peter_n to_o be_v as_o he_o will_v persuade_v constitute_v head_n of_o the_o church_n upon_o earth_n and_o consequent_o neither_o prince_n chief_z captain_n head_n leader_n and_o prelate_n over_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n with_o such_o sovereign_a power_n as_o be_v pretend_v what_o 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this_o light_n of_o grace_n so_o he_o can_v apprehend_v the_o foulness_n of_o sin_n so_o that_o luther_n may_v get_v fruit_n by_o his_o preach_n though_o he_o be_v bold_a to_o say_v of_o some_o that_o pretend_v to_o follow_v he_o they_o be_v and_o remain_v swine_n they_o believe_v like_o swine_n and_o like_o swine_n they_o die_v 73_o reply_v pag._n 73_o but_o do_v m._n malone_n urge_v this_o for_o the_o credit_n of_o the_o swyneheard_n or_o the_o swine_n for_o the_o harlet_n or_o her_o lover_n poor_a luther_n because_o the_o swine_n that_o rome_n have_v breed_v in_o filthiness_n will_v not_o leave_v their_o swinish_a condition_n for_o his_o preach_n against_o their_o swynishnesse_n this_o be_v the_o thing_n he_o bewail_v and_o what_o great_a hurt_n come_v thereby_o to_o luther_n cause_n or_o the_o cause_n of_o religion_n who_o complaint_n may_v be_v paralel_v by_o the_o prophet_n 4._o prophet_n 〈◊〉_d 49_o 4._o and_o apostle_n themselves_o and_o here_o to_o satisfy_v the_o reader_n i_o will_v have_v he_o to_o observe_v some_o thing_n fit_a to_o be_v take_v notice_n of_o and_o it_o will_v overthrow_v all_o
speak_v without_o ground_n for_o the_o controversy_n betwixt_o the_o lutheran_n and_o the_o calvinist_n as_o they_o term_v we_o be_v but_o like_o a_o coal_n as_o sr_n edwin_n sands_n well_o observe_v which_o a_o wise_a man_n with_o a_o little_a moisture_n of_o his_o mouth_n may_v soon_o have_v quench_v although_o their_o minister_n with_o the_o wind_n of_o other_o have_v contrariwise_o inflame_v the_o same_o 〈…〉_o sr_n edwin_n sands_n his_o relation_n 〈…〉_o neither_o do_v it_o make_v against_o the_o peace_n of_o the_o church_n in_o faith_n that_o some_o have_v rash_o and_o passionate_o urge_v our_o difference_n against_o the_o judgement_n of_o their_o more_o moderate_a and_o well_o advise_v brethren_n who_o account_n no_o otherwise_o of_o the_o calvinist_n then_o of_o err_a brethren_n ibid._n ibid._n and_o further_o the_o jesuite_n can_v manifest_v that_o the_o point_n wherewith_o the_o lutheran_n be_v offend_v be_v in_o their_o own_o nature_n of_o the_o essence_n of_o faith_n which_o he_o must_v do_v before_o he_o can_v prove_v we_o to_o be_v no_o church_n the_o quarrel_n mention_v by_o the_o jesuite_n arise_v not_o from_o disunion_n of_o faith_n in_o the_o foundation_n but_o from_o some_o dislike_n and_o jealousy_n which_o some_o indiscreet_a person_n among_o they_o entertain_v in_o point_n far_o remote_a and_o therefore_o their_o rash_a censure_n can_v condemn_v we_o no_o more_o than_o the_o pope_n bulla_n câ—na_fw-la unless_o we_o condemn_v ourselves_o by_o deny_v some_o part_n of_o the_o foundation_n of_o â—aith_n for_o the_o brownist_n they_o condemn_v we_o &_o with_o we_o the_o catholic_n church_n by_o their_o schism_n and_o we_o also_o condemn_v they_o as_o the_o ancient_a father_n do_v all_o the_o factious_a schismatics_n in_o their_o age_n but_o do_v this_o make_v we_o no_o true_a member_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n be_v our_o candlestick_n remove_v because_o a_o hear_v of_o schismatics_n bark_v against_o we_o do_v your_o marrani_fw-la baptize_v jew_n and_o moor_n 44._o moor_n s_o â—_o edw._n 〈◊〉_d his_o relat._n 〈◊〉_d 44._o make_v spain_n non-catholick_a or_o do_v the_o illuminati_fw-la in_o arragon_n the_o brood_n of_o your_o hypocritical_a priest_n by_o their_o pretence_n of_o angelical_a purity_n ibid._n purity_n ibid._n banish_v that_o church_n from_o the_o kingdom_n of_o grace_n this_o be_v neither_o sophistry_n nor_o logic_n for_o the_o word_n that_o he_o cit_v from_o the_o puritan_n no_o man_n can_v deny_v but_o they_o be_v the_o fruit_n of_o distemper_n &_o disobedience_n yet_o unable_a to_o drag_v with_o the_o jesuite_n the_o conclusion_n which_o he_o aim_v at_o for_o their_o dissension_n be_v not_o in_o fundamental_n nay_o it_o be_v so_o far_o from_o the_o foundation_n that_o it_o be_v no_o way_n doctrinal_a this_o youâ—_n turneabout_a spalleto_n when_o he_o be_v in_o england_n perceive_v &_o tell_v it_o his_o brother_n suares_n 〈◊〉_d suares_n spal_n con_fw-mi suar._n c._n â—_o 〈◊〉_d 30._o 〈◊〉_d qui_fw-la vocantuâ—_n circa_fw-la articuâ—â—s_fw-la fidei_fw-la non_fw-la dissentiunt_fw-la sed_fw-la circa_fw-la 〈◊〉_d &_o externam_fw-la ecclesiaâ—â—icam_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d though_o afterward_o he_o fâ—amâ—d_v they_o a_o lie_a catalogue_n â—5_n catalogue_n 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o p._n â—5_n but_o it_o may_v be_v the_o jesuite_n will_v bettet_n perceive_v the_o weakness_n of_o his_o argument_n if_o we_o use_v the_o strength_n thereof_o against_o himself_o if_o i_o shall_v bring_v before_o sixtus_n the_o four_o his_o time_n the_o franciscan_n and_o dominican_n bandy_n heresy_n at_o each_o other_o cloister_n damn_v and_o condemn_v each_o other_o of_o heresy_n not_o by_o word_n alone_o but_o in_o write_v also_o c_o will_v the_o jesuite_n conclude_v that_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v matiae_n o_o sixt._n iu._n decret_a de_fw-fr concep_n virg_n matiae_n heretical_a and_o keep_v not_o irenaus_n his_o harmony_n sure_o if_o the_o pillar_n be_v rot_v the_o roof_n be_v not_o safe_a beside_o if_o the_o franciscan_n and_o dominican_n do_v see_v those_o fierce_a gladiatâ—res_n the_o jesuite_n and_o secular_o in_o england_n fight_v their_o late_a combat_n the_o jesuite_n term_v the_o secular_o calumniatorâ—_n factious_a turbulent_a seditious_a scandalous_a author_n of_o schism_n rebel_n betrayer_n of_o the_o catholic_a cause_n apolog_fw-la cause_n parson_n apolog_fw-la and_o the_o secular_o return_v to_o they_o term_n of_o schismatickes_n donatist_n anabaptist_n arian_n with_o detection_n of_o their_o counsel_n &_o stratagem_n to_o be_v heathenisâ—â—_n tyrannical_a atheistical_a saâ—nicall_a to_o make_v they_o like_o lucian_n and_o machiavelli_n and_o for_o impiety_n and_o atheism_n to_o overcome_v lucifer_n himself_o quod_n watson_n quod_n will_v they_o use_v the_o jesuite_n logic_n and_o confess_v that_o the_o catholic_a church_n be_v not_o roman_a and_o that_o irenaus_n his_o harmony_n can_v be_v find_v there_o but_o let_v all_o the_o world_n view_v the_o devil_n fight_v with_o the_o lamb_n anno_fw-la 1255_o or_o 56._o when_o the_o friar_n publish_v their_o eternal_a gospel_n and_o the_o pope_n partake_v with_o they_o if_o the_o jesuite_n can_v find_v among_o all_o the_o heretic_n that_o have_v ever_o trouble_v the_o church_n such_o a_o essential_a and_o fundamental_a dissension_n let_v he_o swell_v swagger_v and_o display_v ignatius_n for_o ever_o for_o here_o we_o find_v friar_n more_o perfect_a contemplative_n than_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n manebit_fw-la apostle_n henry_n exphurd_n chron._n c._n 93._o eymeric_n director_n inquisitor_n part_n 2._o quaest_n 9_o §._o 4._o 〈◊〉_d errores_fw-la 4._o libri_fw-la 2._o partis_fw-la tractat_fw-la 2._o ay_o quod_fw-la christus_fw-la &_o sancti_fw-la apostoli_fw-la ejuse_n non_fw-la fuerunt_fw-la perfecti_fw-la in_o vita_fw-la contemplantium_fw-la â—_o quod_fw-la activa_fw-la viâ—a_fw-la usquâ—_fw-la ad_fw-la tempus_fw-la abbatis_n joachim_n frâ—ctuosa_fw-la fuit_fw-la sed_fw-la 〈◊〉_d noâ—_n est_fw-la contemplative_a verò_fw-la vita_fw-la ab_fw-la ipso_fw-la joachim_n fructificarc_n coepit_fw-la etamodò_fw-la in_o perfect_a â—_o successoribusâ—psius_fw-la perfectiâ—â—_n manebit_fw-la of_o more_o dignity_n and_o authority_n than_o the_o apostle_n apostoli_fw-la apostle_n ibid._n inter_fw-la errores_fw-la â—_o libri_fw-la ejusdem_fw-la partis_fw-la in_fw-la tractatu_fw-la de_fw-fr joseph_n et_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d cvi_fw-la somnium_fw-la apparuit_fw-la invenitur_fw-la quod_fw-la prae_fw-la diâ—a_fw-la â—ores_fw-la qui_fw-la erant_fw-la in_o ultimo_fw-la statu_fw-la mundi_fw-la erunt_fw-la dignitatis_fw-la et_fw-la auctoritatis_fw-la majoris_fw-la quam_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d apostoli_fw-la the_o gospel_n of_o christ_n disgrace_v as_o less_o excellent_a if_o compare_v to_o their_o eternal_a gospel_n christi_fw-la gospel_n ibid._n inter_fw-la errores_fw-la primae_fw-la partis_fw-la primus_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la evangelium_fw-la aeternum_fw-la quod_fw-la idem_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la doctrina_fw-la abbatis_n joachim_n excellit_fw-la doctrinam_fw-la christi_fw-la that_o it_o must_v vanish_v evacuandum_fw-la vanish_v ibid_fw-la 3._o quod_fw-la novum_fw-la testamentum_fw-la est_fw-la evacuandum_fw-la and_o another_o in_o succession_n follow_v it_o succedet_fw-la it_o ibid._n 6._o quod_fw-la evangelio_n christi_fw-la aliud_fw-la evangelium_fw-la succedet_fw-la that_o it_o bring_v none_o to_o perfection_n perfectum_fw-la perfection_n ibid._n inteâ—_n errores_fw-la 2._o libri_fw-la partis_fw-la 2._o i._n quod_fw-la evangelium_fw-la christi_fw-la â—eminem_fw-la perducit_fw-la ad_fw-la perfectum_fw-la that_o the_o preisthood_n of_o christ_n be_v not_o for_o ever_o after_o the_o order_n of_o melchisedecke_n but_o must_v have_v a_o other_o priesthood_n to_o succeed_v it_o succedet_fw-la it_o ibid._n intet_fw-la errores_fw-la 1._o partis_fw-la 6._o quod_fw-la sacerdotio_fw-la christi_fw-la aliud_fw-la sacerdoâ—ium_fw-la succedet_fw-la these_o desperate_a blasphemy_n beside_o other_o impiety_n as_o opposite_a to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o christ_n as_o the_o turkish_a alcoran_n be_v resist_v by_o the_o doctor_n of_o paris_n what_o merit_v these_o champion_n of_o christ_n at_o his_o vicar_n hand_n they_o be_v account_v malicious_a the_o friar_n innocent_a locuti_fw-la innocent_a extravag_n papae_fw-la alexandr_n ex_fw-la speculo_fw-la minorum_fw-la tractat_fw-la 1._o fol._n 10._o b._n edit_n rothomagi_n anno_fw-la 1509._o &_o firmamento_fw-la trium_fw-la ordiâ—um_fw-la francisci_fw-la part_n 2._o tractat_fw-la 2._o fol._n 62._o a._n edit_n paris_n a_o 1512._o cogitaverunt_fw-la nuper_fw-la malitiam_fw-la magistri_fw-la paris_n &_o contra_fw-la innocent_n &_o rectos_fw-la fcil._n fratres_n praedicatores_fw-la iniquitatem_fw-la maximam_fw-la sunt_fw-la locuti_fw-la they_o rebel_v the_o friar_n the_o belove_a son_n of_o the_o mother_n church_n posuere_fw-la church_n ibid._n surgentes_fw-la adversus_fw-la fratres_n detraxerunt_fw-la &_o contra_fw-la dilectos_fw-la matris_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la filios_fw-la scandalum_fw-la posuere_fw-la their_o defence_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o gospel_n a_o pernicious_a and_o detestable_a libel_n componentes_fw-la libel_n ibid._n prodiere_fw-la inquam_fw-la &_o in_o prava_fw-la commenâ—a_fw-la ex_fw-la nimio_fw-la calore_fw-la animi_fw-la proruperunt_fw-la libellum_fw-la quendam_fw-la valde_fw-la perniciosum_fw-la &_o detestabilem_fw-la temere_fw-la componentes_fw-la the_o friar_n excellent_a instrument_n work_v many_o spiritual_a proficienâ—es_n and_o fruit_n in_o the_o church_n fructum_fw-la church_n ibid._n in_o ipso_fw-la quaedam_fw-la perversa_fw-la &_o reproba_fw-la contra_fw-la
the_o schism_n in_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v contention_n for_o justice_n that_o simony_n be_v her_o purchaser_n shall_v we_o deem_v that_o justice_n enthrone_v cardinal_n above_o bishop_n friar_n before_o priest_n will_v justice_n judge_v god_n rule_n to_o be_v dangerous_a and_o that_o man_n be_v be_v able_a to_o lead_v to_o perfection_n will_v justice_n inhibit_v marriage_n and_o open_v the_o stew_n vrbanus_n nihil_fw-la equi_fw-la cogitat_fw-la if_o we_o believe_v the_o proverb_n vrban_n be_v never_o yet_o just_a how_o come_v he_o now_o to_o be_v so_o upright_o and_o further_o as_o your_o monarchy_n be_v far_o from_o be_v either_o like_a to_o god_n or_o justice_n so_o shall_v we_o appear_v to_o be_v far_o unlike_a either_o to_o your_o malefactor_n on_o earth_n or_o the_o damn_a in_o hell_n we_o be_v malefactor_n heretic_n but_o by_o who_o judgement_n save_o the_o heretic_n himself_o the_o most_o absolute_a malefactor_n on_o earth_n be_v not_o the_o apostle_n so_o style_v what_o better_a appellation_n have_v memnon_n or_o cyrill_n from_o the_o nestorian_n sequâ—â—_n nestorian_n acta_fw-la concilial_a ephes_n tom_fw-mi â—_o acta_fw-la council_n ephes_n c._n 1._o p._n 774._o &_o sequâ—â—_n but_o for_o the_o damn_a in_o hell_n i_o be_o so_o far_o persuade_v of_o papal_a charity_n from_o their_o fiery_a chariot_n that_o i_o doubt_v not_o but_o they_o will_v adventure_v a_o other_o powder-plot_n to_o blow_v we_o up_o to_o heaven_n upon_o condition_n that_o his_o usurpation_n in_o darkness_n be_v not_o unlightn_v and_o so_o trouble_v with_o we_o on_o earth_n but_o the_o jesuite_n be_v impatient_a and_o will_v scorn_v away_o this_o presage_n as_o though_o say_v he_o there_o have_v not_o be_v a_o general_a peace_n for_o many_o age_n before_o the_o stir_n of_o luther_n and_o his_o rebellious_a rout_n notwithstanding_o that_o the_o pope_n do_v always_o keep_v the_o same_o rule_n in_o god_n house_n 80_o house_n reply_v pag._n 80_o the_o jesuite_n to_o exempt_v the_o bishop_n of_o 〈◊〉_d from_o be_v a_o disturber_n of_o the_o peace_n of_o the_o church_n will_v prove_v it_o from_o the_o experience_n of_o his_o peaceable_a government_n before_o luther_n time_n but_o he_o may_v know_v that_o there_o have_v be_v no_o peace_n at_o all_o that_o we_o may_v call_v the_o peace_n of_o god_n where_o he_o have_v bear_v any_o control_n for_o be_v it_o probable_a that_o peace_n shall_v proceed_v from_o he_o that_o be_v always_o or_o the_o most_o part_n at_o war_n how_o many_o schism_n be_v there_o in_o the_o roman_a see_n numerantur_fw-la see_n stapleton_n doctr._fw-la princip_n l._n 23._o c._n 15._o schismata_fw-la rom._n pontiâ—icum_fw-la viginti_fw-la numerantur_fw-la if_o they_o can_v not_o agree_v upon_o their_o peacemaker_n must_v they_o not_o be_v at_o war_n themselves_o have_v it_o not_o be_v the_o best_a course_n in_o those_o time_n to_o bring_v peace_n to_o the_o church_n for_o to_o have_v exclude_v they_o altogether_o from_o government_n but_o if_o so_o great_a peace_n be_v in_o the_o roman_a church_n as_o you_o pretend_v why_o do_v the_o pope_n condemn_v your_o representative_a church_n of_o basil_n esse_fw-la basil_n epistola_fw-la synodalis_fw-la contra_fw-la invectivaâ—_n factam_fw-la nomine_fw-la eugenij_fw-la papae_fw-la qui_fw-la epistolae_fw-la illius_fw-la exordio_fw-la dicere_fw-la ausus_fw-la est_fw-la patres_fw-la in_o conciliâ—_n congregatos_fw-la jam_fw-la fere_n septem_fw-la annis_fw-la ab_fw-la ipse_fw-la christi_fw-la vicario_n &_o aÌ„_o supremâ—_n apostolican_n romanâ—_n sede_fw-la christianorum_fw-la matre_fw-la three_fw-mi &_o capite_fw-la segregate_n esse_fw-la when_o your_o roman_a church_n have_v censure_v he_o for_o a_o schismatic_n 34._o schismatic_n council_n basil_n sess_n 34._o if_o we_o by_o a_o spirit_n of_o giddiness_n be_v divide_v because_o there_o be_v as_o the_o jesuite_n say_v above_o a_o hundred_o several_a sect_n and_o vary_a opinion_n among_o we_o 24._o we_o reply_v pag._n 24._o what_o 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in_o resist_v you_o make_v those_o article_n of_o faith_n which_o be_v never_o of_o universal_a belief_n in_o the_o christian_a world_n but_o to_o who_o do_v he_o tell_v these_o tale_n if_o to_o those_o of_o his_o own_o profession_n it_o be_v idle_a and_o needless_a if_o to_o we_o it_o be_v most_o â—â—â—rue_a for_o say_v he_o it_o be_v well_o know_v that_o with_o we_o they_o be_v certain_o account_v chief_a article_n of_o faith_n be_v all_o of_o they_o declare_v for_o such_o by_o the_o sacred_a and_o infallible_a â—â—thâ—â—itie_n of_o the_o church_n ibid._n church_n reply_v ibid._n it_o be_v neither_o â—eedelesse_a for_o his_o own_o nor_o untrue_a be_v deliver_v to_o your_o self_n for_o the_o most_o reverend_a father_n know_v it_o be_v his_o duty_n daily_o to_o persuade_v against_o faith-intrusion_n for_o the_o preservation_n of_o his_o own_o neither_o can_v your_o argument_n make_v it_o untrue_a for_o be_v all_o thing_n you_o account_n or_o the_o trent_n câ—â—ncell_n have_v determine_v of_o so_o necessary_a light_n that_o every_o man_n must_v believe_v they_o you_o may_v persuade_v this_o in_o peru_n or_o mexico_n but_o your_o neighbour_n the_o venetians_n will_v not_o believe_v you_o that_o dwell_v near_a home_n neither_o have_v all_o your_o catholic_a child_n such_o opinion_n of_o that_o council_n as_o to_o receive_v it_o now_o our_o jesuite_n will_v have_v they_o of_o faith_n from_o our_o confession_n neither_o can_v our_o adversaries_n themselves_o say_v he_o deny_v that_o they_o appertain_v to_o the_o substance_n of_o faith_n and_o religion_n sâ—â—ing_v that_o they_o condemn_v they_o for_o heresy_n in_o we_o 93._o we_o reply_v pag._n 93._o here_o the_o jesuite_n will_v not_o have_v a_o heresy_n to_o be_v but_o in_o point_n of_o faith_n that_o the_o denial_n thereof_o may_v exclude_v we_o from_o salvation_n if_o this_o be_v the_o rule_n by_o which_o the_o jesuite_n will_v try_v heresy_n i_o think_v these_o will_v not_o prove_v of_o that_o stamp_n in_o 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gentilitas_fw-la nunc_fw-la autem_fw-la nullo_n modo_fw-la cognoscitur_fw-la volentibuâ—_n cognoscere_fw-la quae_fw-la sit_fw-la vera_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la christi_fw-la nisi_fw-la tantummodo_fw-la per_fw-la scripturas_fw-la and_o who_o therefore_o will_v know_v which_o be_v the_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n whence_o shall_v he_o know_v it_o but_o only_o by_o the_o scripture_n for_o the_o lord_n know_v that_o there_o will_v be_v so_o great_a a_o confusion_n of_o thing_n in_o the_o last_o day_n do_v therefore_o command_v that_o christian_n who_o be_v in_o christianity_n willing_a to_o be_v confirm_v in_o the_o true_a faith_n shall_v fly_v unto_o nothing_o but_o the_o scripture_n otherwise_o if_o they_o shall_v have_v respect_n unto_o other_o thing_n they_o shall_v be_v scandalize_v and_o perish_v not_o understand_v which_o be_v the_o true_a church_n ecclesia_fw-la church_n ibid_fw-la qui_fw-la ergo_fw-la vult_fw-la cognoscere_fw-la quae_fw-la sit_fw-la vera_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la 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will_v suffice_v the_o papacy_n but_o those_o which_o we_o express_v god_n withal_o as_o we_o may_v see_v various_o out_o of_o 〈◊〉_d trinitas_fw-la 〈◊〉_d de_fw-fr patriarch_n &_o primate_n orig_n lâ—b_fw-la 1._o exercitâ—_fw-la 1._o vâ—_n quemaâ—modum_fw-la diâ—â—cesani_fw-la iâ—_n episcopâ—_n episcopi_fw-la in_o metropolita_fw-la metropolitâ—_n in_o patriarcha_fw-la unum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d itâ—_n triâ—â—taa_n patriarcharum_fw-la in_o unitate_fw-la pontificis_fw-la coalesceret_fw-la sicq_a sedis_fw-la principis_fw-la apostolonum_fw-la esset_fw-la in_o trinitate_fw-la vnitas_fw-la &_o in_o unitate_fw-la trinitas_fw-la but_o this_o be_v little_a to_o that_o which_o follow_v for_o you_o have_v make_v your_o monarch_n after_o the_o manner_n of_o serpent_n to_o cast_v off_o his_o slough_n yea_o his_o nature_n itself_o christo_fw-la itself_o alvae_fw-la 〈◊〉_d de_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d eccles_n lib._n â—_o cap._n 37._o papa_n igitur_fw-la participatutraâ—â—que_fw-la naturam_fw-la cum_fw-la christo_fw-la he_o must_v not_o be_v bare_o man_n either_o you_o must_v take_v he_o for_o god_n and_o man_n or_o compound_v of_o â—â—th_n utrumque_fw-la â—â—th_n clemens_n 〈◊〉_d in_o gloss_n papa_n 〈◊〉_d mundi_fw-la qui_fw-la maxima_fw-la 〈◊〉_d nec_fw-la deus_fw-la â—â—_o nec_fw-la homo_fw-la quasi_fw-la neuter_n es_fw-la inter_fw-la utrumque_fw-la where_o will_v you_o find_v his_o preisthood_n when_o his_o majesty_n be_v style_v divine_a pietas_fw-la divine_a ludou_n luisius_fw-la ab_fw-la alcaâ—ar_n in_o apoc._n in_o carmine_fw-la ad_fw-la 〈◊〉_d apost_n dâ—_n 〈◊〉_d 5._o quem_fw-la numinis_fw-la instar_fw-la vera_fw-la colit_fw-la pietas_fw-la which_o can_v stand_v with_o a_o ministerial_a duty_n do_v he_o affect_v divinity_n as_o the_o emperor_n think_v 7._o think_v aventin_n lib._n 7._o the_o pope_n will_v tell_v you_o that_o peter_n and_o you_o may_v conceive_v for_o who_o sake_n be_v assume_v into_o the_o society_n of_o the_o individual_a unity_n etc._n unity_n nicol._n 3._o the_o election_n cap._n fundamenta_fw-la in_o 〈◊〉_d hunc_fw-la enim_fw-la in_o 〈◊〉_d individuâ—_fw-la unitatis_fw-la 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n and_o the_o glisse_n will_v give_v his_o succeâ—â—or_n the_o tittle_n of_o our_o lord_n god_n the_o pope_n etc._n pope_n extravag_n joan._n 1â—_n de_fw-fr verb_n rum_o sign_n cap._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o gloss_n credere_fw-la auâ—â—m_fw-la 〈◊〉_d deum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d papam_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o as_o if_o this_o be_v too_o little_a a_o cardinal_n of_o their_o own_o have_v tell_v we_o that_o pope_n have_v be_v persuade_v that_o they_o may_v do_v unlawful_a tâ—â—â—gs_n and_o so_o plus_fw-la quam_fw-la deus_fw-la more_o than_o god_n himself_o â—0_n himself_o francisc_n zabarel_n deschism_n innoc._n 7._o &_o benedicti_fw-la p._n â—0_n now_o let_v the_o jesuite_n consider_v what_o reason_n he_o have_v to_o style_v true_a religion_n a_o ambitionâ—towre_n when_o as_o if_o he_o cast_v a_o eye_n upon_o themselves_o the_o tower_n of_o papacy_n have_v a_o foundation_n as_o low_a as_o hell_n and_o a_o height_n more_o lofty_a than_o the_o tower_n of_o babel_n itself_o for_o the_o jesuites_n invective_n of_o spirit_n of_o giddiness_n several_a sect_n vary_v opinion_n â—4_n opinion_n reply_v pag._n â—4_n etc._n etc._n his_o testimony_n be_v not_o his_o friend_n first_o he_o urge_v lavatherus_fw-la but_o as_o it_o seem_v from_o genebrard_n and_o staphylus_n ibid._n staphylus_n see_v the_o margin_n ibid._n man_n of_o excellent_a credit_n and_o repute_n no_o doubt_n sufficient_a by_o their_o bare_a testimony_n to_o divide_v all_o protestancie_n but_o the_o jesuite_n text_n be_v moderate_a if_o his_o margin_n truth_n it_o for_o the_o one_o divide_v protestancie_n but_o into_o above_o 100_o sect_n and_o vary_a opinion_n when_o the_o other_o make_v the_o sect_n 180._o and_o both_o differ_v from_o genebrard_n the_o author_n that_o he_o cit_v who_o say_v there_o be_v more_o than_o 200_o but_o we_o see_v the_o jesuite_n lest_o he_o shall_v be_v take_v lisp_v place_v sect_n and_o vary_a opinion_n together_o now_o in_o this_o sense_n who_o be_v there_o that_o be_v acquaint_v any_o thing_n in_o popish_a writing_n but_o can_v point_v out_o many_o thousand_o vary_a opinion_n among_o the_o papist_n themselves_o which_o they_o condemn_v not_o as_o we_o do_v those_o folly_n mention_v by_o genebrard_n and_o not_o go_v out_o of_o the_o compass_n of_o the_o papal_a creed_n and_o to_o give_v they_o a_o taste_n in_o their_o hierarchy_n there_o have_v be_v eleven_o point_n of_o popish_a irish_a divinity_n etc._n divinity_n censura_fw-la propositionum_fw-la ad_fw-la sacrae_fw-la theologiae_n facultatem_fw-la allatae_fw-la per_fw-la patricium_n cahil_fw-la rectorem_fw-la s._n michaelis_fw-la dublinensis_fw-la etc._n etc._n condemn_v by_o above_o 60._o doctor_n of_o sorbon_n late_o amplâ—â—â—_n late_o actum_fw-la apud_fw-la sorbonam_fw-la in_o congregationibus_fw-la publicis_fw-la sacrae_fw-la facultatis_fw-la theologiae_n parisiensis_fw-la habitis_fw-la diebus_fw-la secunda_fw-la &_o septima_fw-la â—aâ—arij_fw-la 1632._o et_fw-la confirmatum_fw-la in_o coâ—itiis_fw-la extraordinariis_fw-la deciâ—â—â—_n quinti_fw-la ejusdem_fw-la mensis_fw-la &_o anni_fw-la praesentibus_fw-la sexaginta_fw-la doctoribus_fw-la &_o amplâ—â—â—_n with_o such_o term_n as_o these_o lame_a manca_fw-la lame_a censura_fw-la in_o ista_fw-la â—_o propositioneâ—numeratio_fw-la membrorum_fw-la hierarchiae_n ecclesiasticae_fw-la est_fw-la manca_fw-la false_a falsa_fw-la false_a â—_o falsa_fw-la contrary_a to_o common_a right_n contraria_fw-la right_n 4._o juri_fw-la communi_fw-la contraria_fw-la ambiguous_a ambigua_fw-la ambiguous_a 2._o ambigua_fw-la injurious_a injuâ—iosa_fw-la injurious_a 7._o injuâ—iosa_fw-la inept_v ridiculous_a against_o the_o sense_n and_o use_n of_o the_o church_n â—sum_fw-la church_n 6_o inepta_fw-la ridicula_fw-la contra_fw-la communem_fw-la ecclesiâ—_n sensum_fw-la &_o â—sum_fw-la contrary_a to_o divine_v natural_a and_o positive_a law_n contraria_fw-la law_n 10._o juri_fw-la divino_fw-la naturali_fw-la &_o positivo_fw-la contraria_fw-la seditious_a sediosa_fw-la seditious_a 1â—_n sediosa_fw-la scandalous_a scandalâ—sa_n scandalous_a 9_o scandalâ—sa_n schismatical_a scâ—isâ—atica_fw-la schismatical_a â—_o scâ—isâ—atica_fw-la heretical_a etc._n etc._n haereticâ—_n etc._n â—_o haereticâ—_n but_o suppose_v there_o be_v as_o many_o sect_n as_o the_o jesuite_n pretend_v to_o disturb_v the_o peace_n of_o the_o protestant_a church_n what_o conclude_v he_o in_o reproach_n of_o we_o when_o he_o acknowledge_v that_o before_o