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A44145 Letters written to J.M. a nonconformist teacher, concerning the gift and forms of prayer The second part. By Matthew Hole, B.D. sometime fellow of Exeter College, Oxon. now vicar of Stoke-gursey in Somersetshire.; Correct copy of some letters written to J.M. a nonconformist teacher, concerning the gift and forms of prayer. Part 2. Hole, Matthew, 1639 or 40-1730. 1699 (1699) Wing H2410; ESTC R215281 96,332 185

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