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A08075	Newes from the low-countreyes. Or The anatomy of Caluinisticall calumnyes, manifested in a dialogue betweene a Brabander, and a Hollander Vpon occasion of a placcart, lately published in Holla[n]d, against the Iesuites, priests, friars &c. by those that there assume vnto themselues, the tytle of the high-mighty-lords, the States &c. Translated out of the Netherland language, into English. By D.N.; Anatomie van Calviniste calumnien. English.	Verstegan, Richard, ca. 1550-1640.; D. N., fl. 1622.; Cresswell, Joseph, 1556-1623, attributed name.	1622 (1622)	STC 18443; ESTC S120471	29,088	102

his power There is also to be considered that if so be the first Christians to wit those of the primitiue Church haue belieued as Caluinists now do that the body of Christ is not really in this Sacramēt or that this Sacramēt is but a figure signe or token of the body of Christ how when began the beliefe in the world that the body of Christ was really there Through whose ordayning was it so to be taken belieued By whome was it taught By whom was it writtē At what time was it that Communion-tables were taken out of Churches and Altars erected there in their places The Hollander That know I not The Brabander Nor no man els But all Christendome knowes where when and by whome Altars in Churches haue byn broken downe Communion-tables there brought in No lesse to be seene and noted to all the Christians of the world must it needs haue byn if in any foregoing age since the time of Christ Communion Tables if they had byn in Churches had byn caryed out and in place thereof Altars had byn builded and Masse then begun to haue byn said at them Christians then first taught that the reall Presence of Christ was to be belieued to be there The Hollander Verily you do now tell me much The Brabander I will yet tell you more howbeit but in briefe for I will leaue these matters that Concerne controuersies in religion to be debated more largely learnedly by Catholike Deuines but that which I haue to tell you is this That besydes the Catholike Christians of the Roman Church there are great numbers of Christiās of the Greeke Church There are many Christians of the Abissine or Ethiopian Church There are Christians of Malabar in the east Indies which were at first conuerted by Saint Thomas the Apostle with sundry other sorts of ancient Christians aswell in Asia as in Africa for the Apostles themselues haue byn in those Countreys first preached among their ancestors and brought them to the fayth These do differ in some points and ceremonies one from another also from the Church of Rome but all these Christians can shew out of their Ecclesiasticall Annales and Church histories that they haue had Masse euen from the very tyme of the Apostles and haue alwayes belieued that the body of Christ was really in the Sacrament of the Altar and albeit that these are sequestred from the Church of Rome and all of them who vnto that Church haue not reconciled themselues are by the same holden for Schismatikes yet will they all beare witnesse for the Church of Rome against all our European new different sectaries that they doe all of them falsely bely the said Church in affirming those things to be corruptions which they take vpon them to reforme The Hollander Doe they affirme that the Apostles themselues haue first planted the Masse in their Countreyes The Brabander All of them with one consent doe resolutly affirme it assuredly knowing that the Masse hath not had among thē any other originall The Hollander I haue in Holland both read heard somthing but this that you now tel me did I neuer read nor heare before but how is it then that the Apostles haue not mentioned this in their writings The Brabander The Apostles well knew that they had no need to write that which they instituted and taught to be daily in vse among Christians seeing it could not then be forgotten and therefore needed not for the preuenting of obliuion to be putit dovvne in vvryting Of the greatest number of the Apostles we haue no wrytings at all and those that wrote haue left many things vnwritten aswell concerning Christ himselfe as concerning their owne selues not hauing written when or by whome themselues were baptized nor whether they were baptized or no and yet were they without all doubt baptized They knew that Christ had promised to send the Holy Ghost vnto his holy Catholike Church to teach the sayd church all truth and to remayne therewith to the end of the world what necessity was there then for them to put downe all thinges in wryting whereas their expresse charge was to go ouer all the world and preach and baptize and this may well be the cause that but fiue of the twelue Apostles of christ haue written and those but briefly neyther and the other seauen not at all or not whereof we haue any notice But neuer will I belieue that any of the Apostles that haue written haue euer intended that their wrytings aboue fifteene hundreth years after their deaths should then first come to be truly interpreted by a Iohn Caluin or such like who in our miserable dayes haue afflicted the whole Christian world The Hollander You haue heere told me so much and with so cleere apparence of truth that I stand wondering thereat and by Gods grace I will not leaue to reflect well vpon it The Brabander Your Gewses-reformed will also make Catholikes Idolaters for hauing of Images in their Churches They may make Moyses an Idolater also who notwithstanding he forbad the making of Idols erected Images in his temple for he well knew the difference betweene the one and the other The Heathenish Idolls agaynst which the sacred Scripture inueygheth so much the Heathen did offer sacrifice vnto which is the highest and greatest honour that is done vnto God himselfe The belyers of Catholikes may put on their spectacles to see what sacrifice or Godly honour is done by them vnto Images albeit they be Images of Christ of his blessed Mother and of his Saints not of the Gods of the Heathen which were all Diuells No Catholikes offer sacrifice to any Images no Catholikes pray to any Images for so to doe were not only a most grieuous offence vnto God but a great folly madnes in humayne creatures A dog will neuer run at a carued or painted hare Doe Sectaries weene that Catholikes haue lesse sense then brute beasts can they not vnderstand as well as vnreasonable beasts that they are things without life Catholike Christians haue them in vse for memory of God and of his Saints and in reuerencing them the reuerence is meant and referred vnto those they represent as when at hearing the name of IESVS we doe not reuerence the sound but our thoughts are straightwayes by that sound transported to Christ himselfe as by the sight of his Image they also are But your Caluinian pulpit-fellowes to seduce bring the people in false conceyts of Catholikes will perforce make them Idolaters and belye them in despyte of truth But let vs now proceed to to the rest The Hollander So I pray you do for I haue heard inough of this wrong-named Idolatry The Brabander Concerning the point that Iesuites and Priestes do go about to bring the good inhabitants of these vnited Prouinces to an auersion from their lawfull superiours is in troth as good a iest to be laught at as it were that a thiefe hauing cut a

sundry Orders and that a Duke hath byn seene to become a Capuchin in Paris and the Brother of a Duke to become of the same austere order in Bruxelles I was mooued to thinke that it may belōg before we may see a Gewse or Caluinian Duke or Prince become a Minister albeit that condition of life obligeth not to the making and performing of any such vowes or to any austerity at all but to liue with ease in the Ghospell of free liberty There is a prouerbe in the Netherland language that Herman did in tyme get on his dublet after he had byn seauen yeares drawing on of one sleeue but I suppose Hermans dublet might wholy be gotten on and quite worne out before a man might see such persons moued by the great piety they might obserue in Ministers to enter with them into the seruice of the Word But to returne vnto my precedent purpose me thinkes it were not heere impertinent to see and consider what cause there may be found of the great hatred which Caluinists beare vnto Iesuytes and not Caluinists alone but all other Sectaryes for albeit they beare il will and hatred vnto all Catholikes especially vnto all Ecclesiasticall persons yet is it manifest vnto al the world that the Iesuites of all others haue the precedence in the malice of Caluinists And seeing something there may seeme to be that is singular in these religious men more then in others I haue the more endeauored to discerne what this may be and three thinges I haue obserued 1. This first is that there was neuer any Order in the Catholik Church that in so short a space hath dispersed it selfe so farre ouer the world to make the name of Iesus Christ knowne vnto heathen and Pagan people 2. The second is that there was neuer any Order that in so short a tyme hath written so many learned bookes aswel in diuinity as in al other laudable sciences 3. The third is that there was neuer any Order that in so short a tyme hath had so great a number of Martyrs as well by the persecution of Pagans as Apostata Christians As for their exercises of deuotion labour in preaching hearing of confessions instructing and bringing vp of youth in learning without any recompence of their parents making of attonements where there is dissention and discord readines at all houres of the day and night to visit the sicke and to consolate their soules is not now needfull heere to be spoken at large but when I well consider their manifold deedes of Deuotion and Charity I remember the wordes of Christ vnto the Iewes when for his good deedes they would haue stoned him to death I haue wrought many good workes among you for which of those will you stone me Enuy is the deadly enemy of vertue and of wel-prospering The Iesuites thankes be to God do go well forward in al their works of piety and for these Sectaryes will stone them and beeing themselues the actual murtherers of Iesuytes it is no maruell that they seeke to robbe tak away the good name fame of those whose lyues they let not to take away nor is it any wonder that they to coulour their owne tyrannous murthering of Iesuites giue out that Iesuytes are murtherers of Princes Potentates As if themselues did put Iesuites to death therby to saue the lyues of Princes potentates which Iesuites would els bereaue them off But what loue Caluinists and principally Holland-Gewse-Caluinistes do beare vnto Princes themselues doe now adayes the lōger the more make better known vnto the greatest Princes of Christendome then they can make knowne vnto them that Iesuites are murtherers of them and of Potentates The Hollander I must confesse that you haue heere manifested vnto me much more then before I euer knew or heard of But yet notwithstanding that it cannot be perceaued that the Iesuites haue had any hād in the deaths of any of the eight Princes heere by you mentioned it should seeme they haue had knowledge of intentions of murthering Princes as of Queene Elizabeth of England King Henry the fourth of France before he was murthered by Rauaillac his Maiesty that is now King of Great Britayne by the gunpowder Treason his Excellency Prince Maurice in Holland The Brabander For the first concerning Queene Elizabeth of England if we well consider her abandoning of the Catholike Religion which at her coronation she swore to mayntayne and that beeing a woman she tooke vpon her supreame authority in Ecclesiasticall causes which your Caluinian deuines in Holland do affirme to be Idolatry either in man or woman ordayning also by her Statutes that those who should deny to confesse her Ecclesiasticall authority vpon their oathes should suffer death as traytors That she deposed and put from their places the Catholike Bishops and Prelates casting some in prison forcing others to fly the realme That she ordayned a forfayture of twenty poundes a moneth for not comming to her Caluinian-protestant Church-seruice with other lesser forfaytures for Catholikes of lesse meanes who in regard of their consciences absented themselues from the sayd seruice by meanes whereof the prisons euery where became so replenished with Catholikes that new prisons must be made for thē because the old could not conteyne the number Moreouer the putting to death of so many Catholike Priestes as also the putting to death and ruyning of some Gentlemen and others that had harbored them The question now is whether Gewses or Caluinists being to the contrary so treated by any Prince that had sworne to maintayne their Caluinian religion they would with patience endure it Who can belieue this Seeing they haue not letted to rebell agaynst their Princes and Soueraignes that haue intruded no innouation or change in religion vpon them as agaynst the Kings of Spaine France and against Mary Queene of Scotland who I say can belieue this when it is apparent that the very ground-worke and foundation of Caluinian religion is layed setled vpon rebellion as to all the world it is manifest This Queene Elizabeth was so seuere and cruell that she letted not to burne alyue some of our countrey-men beeing Netherlanders not her borne Subiects for their Anabaptisme and caused some Puritans which are directly concurring in religion with the Caluinists of Holland to be hanged and others to fly the realme and lyue in exile because they had sought both by wryting and preaching to bring the religion of England to the iust forme and fashion of that of Geneua Holland Punishing then the Anabaptistes as heretikes and the Puritans as seditious she hath not letted to vse a greater cloke and colour for her persecuting of Catholikes and this was to cause to be giuen out at diuers times that they meant to kill her She imployed among other for one of her spyes sometyme in France somtyme in Italy one William Parry This Parry coming vpon a tyme out of Italy supposing to get more credit